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Post your component list, rate other anons', and ask questions in general.

Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.

Assemble your parts list; built-in price comparisons by vendor and a compatibility filter.

https://pcpartpicker.com


Gaming builds based monitor resolution and refresh rate

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/


>To activate the Description, select build from sidebar then click on the title over the parts list
>Description contains notes, other options, and build skeleton for easy customization / cost savings
>Note: Win7 and 8.1 cannot be installed on a 200 series chipset

Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.

http://www.logicalincrements.com/


>Subsitute a G4560 with 2400MHz RAM for any Pentium or i3; similar performance, up to 50% cost reduction.
>Consider using an i5 7500 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build
>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build without a Z mobo
>Consider a B250 or mobo for any Pentium or i3 build
>Add a 240GB SSD to the "Very Good" tier build
>The only worthwhile gfx cards are the GTX1050, RX470, RX480, GTX1060 6GB for 1080p
>wait for Ryzen R5s


General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.

http://pastebin.com/F9diF2hA (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)


Information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc.

https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC


>Outdated chipset information

If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with >>>/g/pcbg

Old Thread: >>59481725
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Does it ever get better than a 25% off coupon at Monoprice? How rare are 25% off coupons? (SPRUNG25)
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So for watercooling, are PWM fans even remotely necessary? Can I get away with just getting a shit ton of the quietest, lowest power fans and just throwing them on a quad radiator?
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Looking for good cheap keyboard & mouse. Any suggestions?
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>>59491211
there are $10 Logitech mice and keyboards, they are "good enough" if you just need a mouse and keyboard
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Anyone have a Dell U2515H monitor? Mine just arrived and it's great, but the colour calibration seems a bit off (too warm and yellow for my taste).

What is the best colour calibration for this monitor?
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>>59491211
what is "cheap" to you? Give us a budget.
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>>59491261
>>59491280
Well I don't necessarily have a budget per se for those, it's just that my whole life I've always had the cheapest keyboards & mice you could find and it never bothered me.

But perhaps /g/ knows better, and perhaps there are great things I don't know about.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GnZmJV

at what point does it become too much?
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>>59491306
They don't. I fell for the mech keyboard meme and although it's got a nice feel it doesn't make a single difference in performance.

As for mice it depends what you're doing. If you like shooting games and you're shit at them, don't bother, if you're good at them and you care about maybe a percent or two extra accuracy, then google the competitive mouse by sensor list and buy what you think you need.

Otherwise get a nice combo for under 30 dollars because it just werks.
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>>59491321
>Dual Furys instead of a 1080Ti
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>>59491336
It's a placeholder for Vega.
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>>59491306
25 bucks for a refurbished M65
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-m65-fps-laser-gaming-mouse-gunmetal-black-ww-refurbished

and a chink switch keyboard for 30 bucks
https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K552-N-KUMARA-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01LXD7TP9/

if you want to go cheaper, feel free to.
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>>59491321

Twenty one fans? Yeah, that might be too much. That thing is going to sound like leaf blower.
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>>59491306
I've used the cheap Logitech keyboards (like Logitech K120) for the longest time and they "just work". Default layout, no bells and whisltes except for a few media keys. Cheap to replace when you spill something on them. I know a few people who use their $10 keyboards after years still.

Only recently I got a more ergonomic Microsoft one.
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>>59491321
Whats the difference between those fans and the Noctua NF A14 FLX - apart from the colour?

I picked up three A14's earlier in the week for my Ryzen build. Just waiting on the motherboard now. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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>>59491349
Well the case fits 2x 560mm radiators, so the idea is to have push/pull going on both of those with the quietest fans I can get. But I'm not sure how additive the noise is.

I mean I could just get deltas and watch it fly off into the sunset too.

>>59491368
Quieter and they only have one speed.
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>>59491330
I'd like to think I'm rather good at FPS but even then I don't think I care enough about buying an expensive mouse for gaming.

I think I'll just get some basic ones, and I think that's what I meant to ask. Are there basic ones people tend to prefer?

>>59491348
>a dedicated sniper button that lets you switch resolution for extremely accurate shots, and an adjustable weight system for a custom fit to the way you play.
>and a chink switch keyboard
I think I'll pass thanks.

>>59491354
Been using my 5€ mouse and my Advance keyboard which probably was like 15€ for a very long time now, but the mouse is dying, and although I like the keyboard it sometimes auto disconnect because the wire is damaged (same way earphones get messed up and you need to move the wires around to make them right).
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>>59491137
I can't bring much to the table in terms of a new build or anything exciting.

What I have is a $1200 build from 2012 with upgrades to my case (an NZXT Phantom to the Be Quiet Silent Base 800), my GPU (a Radeon HD 7970 upgraded to a GTX 970), (8GB DDR3 upgraded to 16GB DDR3), and an i5 3570k upgraded to an i7 3770k.

I also added more SSDs and external hard drives but I'm pretty sure most anons upgrade that stuff often.

My cable management is shit-- I already know.
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>>59491420
Looks pretty good to me.

I'd recommend having a portrait monitor though for reading 4chan and comics and shit.
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>>59491137
>2560x1440 monitor
or
>1920x1080 triple monitor
I'm having a hard time choosing. My main problem, with the triple monitors, is that displayport makes the monitor price skyrocket. Should I just get HDMI and use displayport adapters?
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>>59491506
Forgot to mention, I currently have a 1920x1080 monitor.
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>>59491506
Ultrawide is starting to gain favor over triple monitor, but it's tough to find ultrawide IPS monitors
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>>59491486
The far monitor on the right actually does this, it's the Asus PA238. I've tried it and it just doesn't fit my setup if I turn it since it blocks the TV (wasn't thinking about it when I mounted it). It's all good though I'm used to poorfag landscape mode from browsing for so long.
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>>59491420

How do you attach three monitors to a pc? Can that be done with just one video card? And how do you have a different thing going on each of those monitors? It looks like three separate computers but I know it isn't. How is that accomplished?
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Does anyone have this card?
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1060-6G-OC.html#hero-specification

I'm sure 3GB is enough for 1080p but I want to play overwatch at 144fps; don't care if max settings or not, would this get it done paired with an i5-6600K?

Does anyone have benchmarks for this card or a similar model?
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>>59491651
>he's only ever known one monitor

Wait until you hear about indoor plumbing, that'll really knock your socks off.

But seriously you just plug it in and it works on most systems.
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>>59491651
most cards come with 3 outputs, some come with more.
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>>59491137
Is that alan wake?
10/10 taste, my man.
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I can get this monitor for $94 USD

It's 1080p and has displayport. 21.5 inches.

Good enough to go with my 1050 Ti, right?
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>>59491506
>is that displayport makes the monitor price skyrocket
How ? HDMI is a more expensive port than DisplayPort.
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>>59491721
>HP
Eh, that's a good price for 1080p regardless.
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>>59491686
>>>/v/
Go talk about babby's first casual fps over there
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>>59491725
>How ? HDMI is a more expensive port than DisplayPort.
my mistake, I was looking at the wrong stuff
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>>59491651
Yeah connecting 3+ monitors is easy. The 970 that I own has 3 display ports and a dvi. You can convert display port to anything so it's good for dp>dvi or dp>hdmi if you need those, but the audio doesn't come with dp>hdmi.
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>>59491738
just want to know if it can get it done I'm currently running on an RX460 + Pentium G4600, but now have the option to upgrade and want to make sure i'm set for when I get a nice monitor
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After looking at used monitors on craigslist for awhile I decided to just get a new one.

Got a BenQ xl2411. Pretty entry level I know. How'd I do? 144hz seems nice so far.
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>>59491751

I have never used more than one monitor per pc at one time. I never realized until now that I could use more than one port on the card at one time.

OK, so I might get myself another VG248QE. I've seen what looks like two totally separate desktops. How is that done? Also, I've seen video games that display across both screens for en extra wide effect. How is that done? And can both of these things be done at the same time on the same rig?

Sorry to hit you with so many questions. Could I play Far Cry on one monitor while browsing the web on another monitor? With one keyboard and mouse? How does that work exactly?
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>>59491819
>I have never used more than one monitor per pc at one time

The absolute barbarism
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>>59491819
You can spread your multiple monitor resolution between monitors with your display driver.

It doesn't matter if it's AMD or Nvidia, you can have multiple screens register at a higher resolution. For example, two 1080p screens become one for a game. However, the border between both screens will be a distracting factor or even be in the way.

3 monitors is better but you need the horsepower of your PC to push those displays. If not it may not work well. And let's be honest here-- for a second.

Multiple monitor gaming is a meme for the most part. It's a lot like 3D gaming.

I have seen people use three portrait displays and game and it looks great. Unfortunately until they design monitors with virtually no bezel it is pointless really, at least in my opinion.
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>>59491420
I've been thinking about setting up a tv screen above my monitors but I'm worried that having to look up all the time will end up uncomfy.

how did it work out for you?
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>>59491918

Thank you so much for that.
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>>59491936
Well for me I had this setup when I had a super comfy recliner chair as my PC chair. If you have a normalfag pc chair that's pretty uncomfortable and hard, or it doesn't recline/swivel it will probably suck.

I also had this similar setup in a studio apartment but my bed was across from it, this made it really comfy for the ladies. Got laid a lot with that setup but it's really particular to your situation. Pic related, my kitchen was right next to the PC setup and the bathroom was down the hall. The PC was right in front of the bed.
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>>59491751
ACHCHUALY DisplayPort does carry audio.
https://www.displayport.org/faq/

>>59491819
>I've seen what looks like two totally separate desktops. How is that done?
This is the default setup. It's called "extended desktop," and it does just that: Extends your desktop to another monitor. With this you choose one monitor to be your primary monitor, which is where your fullscreen applications (games, etc.) will start up.

>Also, I've seen video games that display across both screens for en extra wide effect. How is that done? And can both of these things be done at the same time on the same rig?
Can be done in a few different ways. The answer to the second question is both yes and no.
One way to achieve this, and probably the most common, is via a feature in your graphics driver. On Nvidia it's called Surround, whereas on AMD it's called Eyefinity. Both will configure your computer to register the monitors you choose as one, e.g. 3 1080p monitors will be seen as one 5760x1080 monitor by your OS and applications.

Another way to achieve this is with a piece of software called SoftTH. You install it as a directx hook for each game you want to use it on, which allows your games to run on all available monitors even if you have them set up as extended desktop in Windows, essentially doing the same as Eyefinity/Surround but on an application specific basis. This doesn't work with newer versions of DirectX, however. If I recall correctly, experimental support for DX11 is still in the works.

A third, and nowadays unnecessary, way to do it is with a Matrox Triplehead box. They were used back when graphics cards only supported 1 or 2 monitors, but they're no longer needed.

>Could I play Far Cry on one monitor while browsing the web on another monitor? With one keyboard and mouse? How does that work exactly?
Yes. It works exactly as you would expect it to.
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>>59492110
>ACHCHUALY DisplayPort does carry audio.
Good go know actually, thanks anon.
I typically use earphones so I don't notice.
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>>59491273
RGB.

Also be sure that your gpu is set for RGB. Nvidia has a nasty habit of reverting to poor colors after an update.
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>>59491506
read: >>59491918
The multi display idea is a meme. Don't fall for it.
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hey, tech-incompetent anon here & 1st time posting on /g

>purpose of PC
video games

>budget
800$/800€

>outside the USA
Scandinavia

>compenent list:
1TB Driver - "WDC WD1003FZEX-00MK2A0"
120GB SSD - "Samsung SSD 850 EVO 120GB"
Graphics card - "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970"
Keyboard - "Logitech G11 Gaming Keyboard"
Mouse - "SteelSeries Sensei"
Monitor - "Fujitsu SL23T-1 LED"
Monitor 2 (never used for games, only videos, music, and browsing internet) - "LG W2252TE-PF"
Processor - "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K @ 3.50GHz" (shows up as 4 of them in decide manager)
Case - "NZXT H440"

What should I replace? Monitor 2, mouse, and keyboard are quite old but they haven't died so I'm still using them.

I'm mostly playing Blizzard games, RTS games, and Conan Exiles(which looks insane) so I don't think I'll need a new graphics card, but sometimes I get freezes in Conan Exiles and I experience screen tearing quite often in Overwatch. I've been thinking about getting a screen with 144Hz instead of 60, but I don't know if that'll eliminate the issue about the screen tearing or not. Anyone computer smart who could give some advice?
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>>59491686

That is literally my rig. It's a mini-ITX.

Runs anything I throw at it smooth usually around 100fps+

I have the 3G Gigabyte windforce.

If you aren't fussed about comparing epeens with hopeless virgins like this fella then it's a solid build.
>>59491738
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>>59492350
Worth mentioning that monitor 1 has a vague purple tint instead of just grey, which is annoying mostly whenever I start the computer but after a few minutes it turns into grey. I don't know if the screen does this because of cold room temperature (it's around 0 celsius/~33farenheit when I wake up) or because my eyes aren't adjusted to it.
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>>59492350
>(shows up as 4 of them in decide manager)

Well, obviously, because the i5 are quad-core processors.
i7 shows 8 processors because it also has 4 cores + 4 memecores.
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waiting for 2017 oleds so the 2016 series become cheaper

anyone here on a large (40"") tv? how is it?
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Hey y'all.

Thinking about doing an upgrade.

Current PC:
> FX 8350 @ 4.5 GHz (DDR3-1866+)
Upgrade:
> 7700K (DDR4-3000)

I do mostly workstation stuff but a little bit of gaming as well. Is it worth it for me to upgrade to the 7700k?
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>>59492641
no
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How cucked am I going to be pairing an RX480 with a stock i5 2500? I already get cpu bottlenecked super hard in BF1 but most games seem to run at 60-70%.
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>>59492723
Get an 3570 (best i5) or 3770 (best i7) to cap your socket.
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>>59492585
Shitty response times, colours are non-accurate.
You're better off getting yourself a monitor.
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>>59492585
that pic looks pretty comfy if its 4k

ill get me one of those when theyre cheap enough
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Repost from the monitor thread

Just preordered the AOC Agon AG352UCG based on the PCmonitors review https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-ag352ucg/ which goes through everything.

>3440*1440
>no IPS glow
>no backlight bleed
>100Hz
>G-sync
>300€ less than comparable monitors

The gaymen aesthetic is laughable but won't be a problem since I'll have it against a wall.
I can't wait for it to bring my GTX970 to its knees while I wait from the non-founders 1080 TIs.
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>>59492745
don't do this

either get a skylake or stay on 2500k
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waiting for a mini itx AM4, then ill have everything.

AMD 1700.
Zotac 1070 mini
32gb ram
FLEX ATX PSU.
24" 1440p 144hz monitor.

and the components are going to be built inside the monitor. so ill have a sexy AIO machine capable of pwning noobs at high fps.
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>>59492864
>Skylake
>When Kaby Lake is same price and clocks higher
>When Ryzen 7 1700 exists
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>>59492883
>babby lake
>wincuck 10
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>>59492918
Does R7 support win7?
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is there a single scenario that could play out over the span over the next 5 years which would justify 64gb of ram?
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>>59492942
No.
DISCLAIMER: Not "supporting" Windows 7 doesn't mean it cannot be installed.
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>>59492942
If you're asking "can Windows 7 run on it, fully utilizing its power" - yes. Maybe some energy saving features won't work.
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>>59493050
Maybe. I don't know, 16 GB for "muh games" is the new recommended capacity. It may quadruple over the next few years, but it all depends on the consoles, really.
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>>59493050

For gaming? No.
For process intensive tasks? Maybe.
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>>59492829
>oled
>colours not accurate
wot?

as for response times, LG updated firmware and the C model (curved) is 34ms at 4K@60Hz 4:4:4. not sure about the B model (flat) but that model has older chipset than C so would avoid it based on that alone
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>>59493123
>16 GB for "muh games" is the new recommended capacity
really? sounds like
>hey why bother with writing a paging system or even load/ unload a single thing if we can just load the whole game into ram
sounds like laziness and hack programming by unity fags
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>>59493050
There are scenarios right now that justify over 1TB of RAM. It all depends on what you intend to do with it.
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Just snagged an Acer 1440p 27in 144hz g sync monitor for 545. Refurbished but so far, minor Blb and no dead pixels. Only thing is that it will randomly black screen after like 10 mins. However when I hooked up my second monitor, it stopped doing this. Should I be worried?
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Corsair CX550M, 550W PSU

Intel Core i5-7600K Kaby Lake

Cooler Master Hyper TX3i CPU Cooler

ASUS Prime Z270-P, Socket-1151

Crucial DDR4 2400MHz 8GB

ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 6GB DUAL

And an SSD.

Is this worth 1300 american dollars? I dont want to risk breaking anything so i am considering buying this prebuilt. https://www.komplett.se/product/11144#!tab:extra
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>>59493186
devs don't care anymore to optimize their shit.

Back then, hardware severely bottlenecked software. Devs had to really optimize their shit to be able to run on the few MBs of RAM

Today, hardware is so hilariously ahead that software isn't needed to be optimized anymore. Now it's the software bottlenecking the hardware
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Have any of you bought a completly new computer? What did you do with your old one? My current is 7 years old so i am gonna replace it but i dont know what i should do with it
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>>59493237
I know but that breeds a whole generation of no-skill hacks. we can only lose from that.
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>>59493087
Actually microsoft are threatening to push out an update that disables windows update on non-supported CPUs:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4012982/discusses-an-issue-in-which-you-receive-a-your-pc-uses-a-processor-tha
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is there a single reason not buy this badboy? I mean it has 3 (!!) fans. how metal is that
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Which dual monitor setup would you recommend?
Uses - day trading
4chan
programming
some light gaming
video editing etc.
Nothing too fancy.
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>>59493373
That depends, how fond are you of your house being not on fire?
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>>59491341
>Dual Vega instead of a 1080ti
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>>59493446
Well, we'll see what happens. I would very much like to NOT give Nvidia money because they're anti-competitive assholes. But if Vega flops it flops.
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>>59493683
I mean 2 Vega's will out perform a 1080ti but you might be better off going for a single card
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I have fans/setup in the picture here currently in my 460x case. Thinking of adding another fan in purple. Or would that hurt the temps since the D15S cooler air from front fan be sucked above before it hits the the cpu cooler?
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>>59493997
Same fan setup as me, works fine. Fans as a whole only knock like 2 degrees off after one in, one out.
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>>59494011
Thanks, that 1-2 degrees still helps on load to me.
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>>59493373
> it has 3 (!!) fans. how metal is that
They are plastic.
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R7 1700 or 1700X?
What is even the significant difference here?
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>>59493997

That won't hurt the temps but it won't improve them either
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>>59494103
What if that's an intake?
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>>59494095
1700 all the way, the 1700x and 1800x are just slightly higher binned with higher tdp, but are like 100$ more, and even then they scam you on the cpu cooler.
Lisa su why do you break my heart.
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If I have no interest in overclocking or messing around with RAM frequencies is i5 7500 + rx 480 4GB enough for gaming at 1080p 60 fps?
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Does anyone know of a place where I can get a decent nitrogen cooling system?

I can google I was just wondering if anything was recommended.
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>>59494071
they can still be metal.
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>>59494360
g4560 + gtx 1050ti is enough for gaming at 1080p 60fps
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Bought i7 7700k with an Asus z270e

How'd I do?
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Anyone here has Dell UP2516d? How bad is build quality?
I need a new monitor and I really want Adobe RGB but can't afford new 27" while used U2711 seems not reliable enough in the long term.
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>>59495422
underated
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This probably isn't the right spot for this. I just did a big upgrade. New cooling, motherboard, ram, case. I love it, it's incredible, so happy I went for it.

My question is about overclocking though. It's going to take me forever to find the optimal overclock if I do it the way I used to back in the c2d days. Change voltage or clock, boot, stress, and it might not crash for 7 hours. I did a quick and dirty overclock with my 6600k.
4.7ghz@1.38v peaking realistic load at 68c. Is there realistically anything else to gain here? I really need every bit of perf per core that I can get my primary game shows great scaling from it.

Next I have samsung b-die 3600 cl16 diims. Someone on the review said he got them to 3750@14-14-14-30 1.55v. Is a 150mhz and a 2cl reduction a signifficant increase?
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>>59491273
i leave mine at factory specs which is supposed to be the most accurate. brightness at 35, contrast 50.

if you want the colors to be as physically accurate as possible you have to leave it at the 'Standard' preset. this is only really important if you do photo/video/texture work though. it's done this way to ensure that whatever you're looking at is going to look the same for most other people. as an artist the last thing you want is for your work to look perfect on your monitor but total shit on everyone elses. hence the standard.

for casual use or gaming / watching movies you should be fine changing the settings to personal preferences (can always revert to factory specs), it's not like you're suddenly going to miss out on anything.

it may feel a bit yellow tinted when you have lower brightness (it shipped with brightness at 50 but that blows my eyes out) even though it actually isn't.
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>>59493683
don't go dual-gpu man. i've been there. the temperature issues are huge, the cards die fast, the power consumption is huge, the noise is bad. and that's just the little things. the worst part is the micro stuttering and the terrible support for multi-GPU setups in most games.

always get a single core GPU. grab a 1080ti or wait for vega.
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Hey guys, should I make a dual PSU build?

I want some of my motherboard and processor components running on a 500w and my graphics card and fans on a 350w
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>>59491686
don't know shit about the card but at those high framerates the cpu is often more likely to be a bottleneck, if you run into issues at 100+ FPS try OC'ing the CPU.
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>>59496346

http://thermalbench.com/2016/09/12/watercool-heatkiller-mo-ra3-420-pro-radiator/

Mod the case to fit this in
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>>59491137
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f4dVgL

Used for games, hobbyist music protection, and other garbage that I decide to do.

I need to buy an SSD.
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is an i7 3820 a major bottleneck in gaymen? when should i upgrade?
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Just got a 7700k. I plan on overclocking but nothing that requires liquid cooling. Can i get away with getting something like https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N1MOFKZ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER , or should i get a gaming-tier ledtastic mobo ?
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is there a reason to not just submerge the whole rig into liquid nitrogen?
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>>59497054
The nitrogen will quickly evaporate
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MN2cjc
r8 or h8
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>>59492110
>How is that done?

I hope you come back to this thread to know that I thank you so much for taking the time to provide me with such a comprehensive piece of information. I really appreciate all that you taught me.
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>>59493997

If you could remove the psu shroud on the bottom, and if you have a vent with a dust cover down there, I would put your purple fan to pull air from the bottom rather than another fan to push out the top.
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>>59497003

You are aware that is a Mini ITX form factor motherboard, yes? I assume that you do and that you specifically want a small motherboard. If you are aware, then the answer to your question is yes, that motherboard is a barebones Z270 and will be just fine. No need for a meme motherboard.
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Can someone please post a build that's around 600 pounds/740 dollars? I mostly want to play games/watch movies/read on it.


I've never built/owned a PC before, mostly because I've always used shitty laptops, so I'm scared to buy expensive parts only to discover that they don't fit together

The only thing I've bought so far is the monitor (LG 22MP68VQ), and I've already got the mouse and the keyboard
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Are Huntkey and Gamemax PSUs any good? They seem to be quite popular here in Iraq.
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>>59496514
What monitors are you using look pretty sweet
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>>59497407
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MN2cjc
Think about putting a locked i5 in that build. The G4560 doesn't do the 1060 justice.
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Hey guys, I built my first PC around 5 years ago and I'm looking to upgrade to a completely new build. It's been a while so I'm kind of out of the loop when it comes to the new hardware that's out.

I'm planning on buying an Asus PG348Q monitor and I'd like to be able to play games like Arma 3 and The Witcher 3 at max settings with at least a steady 60 fps (if possible, anyway. I have a feeling that big fps drops in Arma 3 are an inevitability). I don't spend much money so I have plenty to throw into this build; my budget is basically whatever it needs to be to get the performance I'm looking for.

From the research I've done, NVidia seems like the way to go for high-end systems. I'm not sure which card to go with. Based on the benchmarks I saw, the 1080 seems to stay around an average of 60fps in most games at 3440 x 1440, but the minimum fps dips down as low as 40 - 50 fps in some games. I've only seen the 1080ti's minimum fps drop below 60 in a few games. Would it be retarded to buy the 1080ti just to keep the fps from dropping below 60?

This whole Ryzen deal has me really confused. Back when I built my PC, Intel was a no-brainer for anybody wanting to play Arma because it's so CPU intensive. How would Ryzen stack up against Intel CPUs in Arma nowadays?

How do I figure out what kind of wattage my PSU needs to have? Is there some kind of rule for how much extra wattage it should have?

How much should I be spending on a motherboard and case? There are so many choices that I don't know what's overkill and what isn't.

Thanks in advance to anybody who decides to read all of this shit.
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>>59498014
>modern budget CPU, enough for 90% of CPU related game needs
>modern budget GPU, enough for 90% of GPU related 1080p game needs
But muh logical upgrade
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Can anyone recommend me a compact (e.g. 60%) scissor switch/chiclet keyboard that's comparable to a Logitech k740?
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>>59493185
Yeah sorry, OLED is pretty damn accurate. Response time of 34ms is suitable for general watching but not games at all.
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>>59498037
With Ryzen you can get double the cores of Intel (and like 80-90% per-core performance) for the same price. In Arma specifically that's a huge deal, but in most games it doesn't help out at all. Still, 60fps is not that demanding and you don't need 5GHz clocks for 60fps (the extra cores also usually means a better minimum fps compared to Intel)
4K ultrashort at 60fps isn't insane, but I would still recommend a 1080 or above. I have a 1070 and some games (witcher with hairworks) drops down to 60fps at 2560x1440, I'm sure the extra pixels would push it below 60fps
If you're only getting 59fps just fucking adjust a setting you noob, a 1080 would wreck that screen at "high" settings, it's just that benchmarks are made at max settings
You won't need more than 650w PSU, which luckily happens to be the most widespread and on-sale wattage around
Your motherboard choice is going to be driven 100% by chipset needs and brand, there's not a lot to say here unless you like flashy extras
Get whatever case you want, I got a $25 case for my $1200 system and have no ragrets
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Can HDMI send the signal to turn off/sleep a monitor when the computer goes idle/turns off?
I had an issue with my old Acer monitor where it wouldn't sleep but rather display "NO SIGNAL" instead.

I got a Dell S2716DGR new with a DisplayPort cable which I plug into an EVGA GTX980ti. With it installed I'm able to shut down the computer and have the monitor turn off automatically which is great. But my problem now is that when the computer goes idle and the monitor shuts off, I can't wake it up unless I restart the whole computer.

If DisplayPort was the only cord capable of sending the handshake signal to shut down the monitor, I don't want to go back to HDMI if its cable is incapable of doing this.

Damned if I do, damned if I don't. Fuck salt.
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>>59498129
Awesome, thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it.
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>>59498174
>Always hear about cables and monitor sleep issues
>Have a monitor that auto-sleeps perfectly every time
>Always manually turn off the screen anyways
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>>59496514
>dragon dildos

/comfy/
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Is there a difference between 3200mhz vs 2400mhz ddr4 ram in gaming?
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>>59498212
What monitor?
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>>59498322
Slightly, but yes. Fallout 4 gets a fairly big boost for example, Forza horizon does too (because of its shitty console-like RAM/VRAM usage)
On integrated graphics the difference is very big
Get fast ram, but don't spend too much on it, ram prices are fucking garbage at the moment
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>>59498348
PG278Q
I don't get what people's issues are, I have Windows stop displaying after 10 minutes of inactive, and the monitor shuts off within 30 seconds of no signal
I feel like I'm not fully understanding the issue though desu senpai
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>>59498322
yes, like 0.1 fps if you check benchmarks.
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>>59498374
You sure?
https://youtu.be/Er_Fuz54U0Y
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>>59498374
It's more like up to 5-8 fps
That can make the difference nowadays
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>>59498389
>YouTube reviews
Just post a fucking benchmark it's not that hard
Also don't forget these are the outlying games, the handful of games that actually see a large boost from ram speed
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>>59498442
What the fuck kind of benchmark is that where he can't even hit 60fps at 1080p
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Best 1070 to buy?
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>>59499211
cheapest
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>>59499253
Looks like the Gigabyte mini or the Evga founder's edition?
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>>59499325
No and no imo
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>>59498372
My old monitor which I forgot the brand, but it was connected via VGA, and it was able to turn itself off when I turn the computer off. And it would turn itself on when I turned the computer on.
My next monitor, an Acer H243H was connected via HDMI. It looked a lot nicer than trying through the VGA port which made everything look like a poor quality JPEG. BUT I noticed pretty much right away that when I turned off the computer, the monitor would remain on but remain black screen and display "NO SIGNAL"
I searched high and low and could only figure that the HDMI cable was not able to send the signal to from the pc to turn off. I should have tested it with a DVI port, but never did.
This new monitor (Dell S2716DGR) has the output for HDMI, but it came with a DisplayPort cable. After the Acer incident, I feel hesitant to use it becuase I now believe that HDMI cannot send the shutoff signal to the monitor.
But this monitor's problem is that it will turn itself off when the computer idles (instead of using a screensaver) which is GOOD, but it will not wake itself back up. At all. I have to restart the computer for it to reawaken.
So I'm back on the HDMI cable. And I'm not happy about it.
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>>59499325
Gigabyte full size
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Two questions related.
Is there an easy way to put my cpu fan to full throttle and then back to default settings? Im trying to decide if i need a new fan or not.

If i do need a fan suggestions for a quiet one. Usuing an fx 8350.

Its only hitting 40c but i think the fan profile is barely audible or blower mode.
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I need a new monitor. My requirements are...

>2560 x 1440
>100Hz+
>IPS
>G-Sync
>Preferably 27"

As far as I can tell, there are only like four monitors on the market that fit these. They're all using similar but different versions of panels from the same OEM. Does anyone have any experience with any of these?

>Asus PG279Q
>Acer XB271HU
>AOC AG271QG

Reviews are all over the place on all of them, but there aren't that many options here. What's worse is they're all fucking ugly, but the stand is the worst part of most of them and I'm mounting it.

Any new 100hz+ 1440 gsync monitors coming out any time soon that you guys know about?
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>>59493390
Portrait monitors are good for day trading and shit posting.
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>>59499356

Just hit the power button on your monitor to turn it off when you aren't going to be at your desk for a while, shit for brains.

Then hit it again when you come back.
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>>59498442

So performance benefits taper off sharply at 3000.

I'm running at 3200 and was kind of pissed I couldn't get stability at 3400. Good to know it doesn't really matter.
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Am I done?

What more could I want?


I was thinking on getting a modem/router now.
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I know people usually talk about overclocking, but I need some help with underclocking. My FX8350 processor is running too hot for its own stock heatsink to keep it living under heavy load and it kills my entire rig when it eventually climbs into the high 80s.
It's base voltage is 1.3125 (V) and I tried lowering it to 1.1v and everything shut off before I had to do a restore.
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>>59499831
This might help. I recommend you research first
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>>59499882

Backup power supply.
Quality modem / router.
Re-cable your house with Cat-6
High quality peripherals
Weed
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what are some good 32'' 4k monitors. not for gaymes but for more professional usage. I wanted to go with 2 ASUS PA329Q but then I read buying asus is like lottery and I really cant be fucked to send those giant ass things back if they suck in fabrication.

any ideas?
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>>59499921

My post completely leapfrogs all the information in that graphic.

I already HAVE researched the question.

I'm asking for personal experiences or "up and coming" products that I might not have heard about. I mean, the Asus and the Acer have both been out for like 2 years.
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>>59499846
I had to do that with my Acer and it felt like that button was going to fall off any time since it was so flimsy. I want to have the modern convenience of a self-turning off display for once.
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>>59499934
What modem/router do you recommend? Every single one of them seems to be a massive gamble these days.
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current build is a mATX but in a full tower, and despite the space, build feels crowded because of all the drive cages (3.5 and 5.25). Thinking of switching over to pic related, everywhere I look I can't find a reason not to, is it truly the GOAT case?
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>>59500111
It's not $25 after rebate like N200
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>>59500084

Depends what your application is, and new products are always being released. I can't be arsed to be up to date on this stuff all the time, but the last time I bought a modem the shit to have was....

>Arris SB6190 Modem
>Asus RT-AC66U Router

The combination has been working great for me. Modems don't change much, so that's probably still a great choice. Looks like Asus has some new router offerings though, might want to look into those.
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>>59499921
Not that anon but currently have the AOC G2260VWQ6 in mind (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160275). How is it? Should I change my choice in monitors?
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>>59499921
W-why is there no Dell monitors on there?
I thought Asus, while not terrible, is a gamble because they have terrible quality control and even worse customer service.
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>>59499398
What am I gonna do with that trackpad on a desktop. Waste of space.
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>>59500506
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Good evening lads

Do your stuff : https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/67hzjc

I don't want a price any higher than that, I'd like to be able to do some graphic design and a small amount of CAD.

I'd be happy if I can run the Witcher 3 on it.
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Should I get a Ryzen 5 for my first build when it comes out? Or get an intel because it just werks?
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r8
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>>59493050
Virtual Machines could need that memory.
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>>59501015
You should wait for the benchmarks
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>>59498037
So you're looking to do a wide 1440p type deal? For that I'd go for a 1080ti. A 1080 would probably do it but I'd want that extra cushion. If you waited for AMD Vega, that would likely be a viable option too, but we don't know that yet, and if you want to build now, the 1080ti is your best bet.

For CPU I'd recommend an AMD RyZen, probably a 1700 and do a mild OC, or, if you want to spend more, I ended up just buying an 1800X. Can't say I've used it yet but there is data out there to suggest comparable to Intel performance in a cheaper chip. Any R7 chip I think you would be happy with. An Intel 7700K would also be a good option from the Intel side, especially with overclocking. For AMD don't buy anything non-RyZen on the CPU front. The Vishera is a dead chip now and won't match well with your 1080ti. You'd probably be about equally happy with a 7700K or a RyZen chip, as the differences are minor now.

For board I would pick the highest end chipset for the respective CPU you buy, I would spend up to or around 200 bucks for a good Gigabyte or ASRock on the AMD side and for Intel ASUS and Gigabyte also seem to do well.

Wattage for a single 1080ti I'd feel safe with an 850. You could probably do less but remember a PSU is most efficient near 50% load Seasonic makes some good PSUs. I personally have an EVGA Supernova 1000 P2 and it is quite nice. Way overkill for my system but a nice PSU.

Cases, I'll always first recommend Fractal Design. An R5 (or similar ATX case, I think it's the Define C or S or something now maybe?) would suit that build well. I have an R2 XL bought in '13 I absolutely adore. Nanoxia seems to be another good case maker. Just find something you like the looks of. Good case makers I'd recommend checking out:
-Fractal Design
-Nanoxia
-Lian-Li
-Phanteks
-Corsair (IMO hit or miss on the lower end cases)
-Cooler Master makes some tanky cases but they're ugly IMO.
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>>59491137
Need to update from my Haswell build, but damn Haswell was pretty great
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>>59501045
>motherboard costs more than the CPU
0/10
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Just buttoning this up for a client. Pretty comfy.
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>>59502128
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I have a evga 500w white psu.
Will it handle a gtx 1070 and a i7 6700?
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>>59491321
>that case
Is this real life?
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I'm sick of waiting for ryzen 5 desu. Ryzen 7 was shit and I've been waiting since mid January. I'm thinking it's time to just deal with it and buy an i5 7500 or 7600.
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>>59503054
Get the k versions,
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>>59503085
I'd rather not fuck around with overclocking, z270 boards are expensive as fuck here, and spending a couple hundred more due to cooler, motherboard and added CPU cost for like 200-400mhz seems dumb.
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>>59497799
Thank you! Yeah, I'm going for a smaller build this time, probably in a nano s
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Anyone ITT have a Ryzen setup already? Is it stable enough to rely on for server use? Long story short,y current server is a mere pentium dual core and 4GB of ram. Even just the pentium is a 49w tdp. Meanwhile the Ryzen 1700 is doing 8c/16t at 65w tdp and can be set lower by adjusting the clock.

Is there anything I should know before pulling the trigger on a 1700/asrock taichi board and 32GB of ddr4? This is intended for server purposes only. (VMs, file, print, backup server) as well as a dedicated encoding machine. I intend to connect over the network via windows remote desktop. Might throw my spare GT210 Nvidia card in just in case I need to plug into a monitor.
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What's the best case you can get for a sane price that supports M-ITX up through ATX?

Debated the flat-faced Corsairs but I've heard they have cooling issues and I can't find solid info as to whether or not they actually support M-ITX.
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Is dell the best company to buy monitors from?

I want a 27inch 1440p ips monitor, but I only have like 350$ to spend what would you reccomend?

U2515H is nice but I wanted 27".
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>>59504026
>I've heard they have cooling issues

I have the exact case in your image. Here are my current temps. I owned a 1080 pascal a few weeks ago that was hitting high 80s and I was assuming the case was having airflow issues. Returned that shit and changed it for a 1080 ftw. So far the card hasn't gone over 60.
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>>59504283
HERE are my current IDLE temps
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>>59493683
this is exactly how I feel. I wait for AMD to play their hand just to see if I have a non-green option.
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>>59504283
Was also debating this one, but no M-ITX support for my current board.

It's a damn spiffy case, though.

Unsure what I'm going to do. May wait to see what sales show up.
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>>59500164
second the RT-AC66U, it's quality even if I did need aftermarket antenna to reach the other side of the house.

>dual WAN failover w/ cable and DSL
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>>59504026
>m-itx through atx
Pretty much any ATX case supports M-ITX. It looks pretty fucking stupid though to put a tiny motherboard in giant case.
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pic related
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>>59504734

It's cute...!
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>>59504709
>Pretty much any ATX case supports M-ITX.
You would be surprised how often that is apparently not the case.

And I need the M-ITX support because my current computer is an Alienware X51 R2 I won in a raffle. I want to run it using an actual PSU and hook in another hard drive. With later and more costly updates to happen later and the original hardware to go back to the X51 case.
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>>59504761
hmm. what's the worst-case scenario? drill and tap some mounting holes...
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how autistic is this potential setup?

I've found all these parts secondhand & couple refurbished.
Already have the CPU.

I'm not a big on modern games but I love emulating older games. SNES/N64/PS1/PS2/SEGA/etc etc. Newest game I play much of is Kerbal Space Program. My laptop's 500gb HDD is struggling between all the roms and also being my main computer for school/personal/etc.

I want to build a very mild rig that I can just hook up to my cheap 50" element TV and store some movies/shows on and do all my emulators/roms.

Does this poverty build look pretty decent for what I want?
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>>59504850
>COOLMAX

Bad idea, friend.
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To all 7700k guys out there:
How high can you push your chip on air?
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>>59504957
From what I have and what I've seen is up to 5.1GHz, depending on the silicone lottery
>i also very much appreciate the aesthetics of that pc
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>>59504850
>Getting an 80GB SSD for a (((mild))) build
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once SSDs become incredibly fast, will there still be a need to have RAM on a motherboard?
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>>59504850
Where are you getting that case for $14.85?
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>>59504850
Looks pretty autistic. make sure your motherboard has a bios version to support that CPU, otherwise you'll need to find another CPU to flash it, or another way to flash it (ROM flasher device or something)
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will SLI gtx 1080ti with a 7700k be doable on a 850W PSU?
both with slight OC

I have a seasonic prime titanium
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>>59504957
>single 240mm rad for cpu and gpu
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have you ever considered buying VR peripherals? like the HTC Vive? why or why not?
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>>59505101
Easily
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>>59505101
See >>59505234
Pretty sure youd be good with 650 gold rated even
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>>59492585
Im on a 2010 40". As someone else said, response time is shit.

At the time I played alot of xbawx. I was using a monitor because my tv was crt. The crt shit itself and I bought this tv and switched over. During that same time, I quit playing games and watched netflix for about a year.

I got back on xbawx and was horrified to find out I sucked at games I use to excell at. I couldnt even pilot aircraft the (which I was rather good at). I just assumed that being offline took its toll on me. I was playing around with other displays a few weeks ago, this tv is suposed to be 120hz and the other monitor was running at 75hz. The mouse would run fin on the other monitor and when I moved over to the main monitor I was horrified to see a huge response time lag that I had just been use to for all of these years.
I can move the mouse and actually not see it move for a noticeable time (it just wasn't apparent to my young untrained eye.)

I beleive the "120 hz" bullshit is for cable only and hdmi is running at 30 or 60 hz
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>>59505050
Used on eBay
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>>59504850
Just by a refurbished i5 machine for $150 desu
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>buying a monitor this quarter
>Buying a monitor before HDR monitors are announced

Lol
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So I'm currently deciding on a case that has the USB/audio jacks on the front or side but all I could find under $100 were the Corsair 200R and the Enthoo Pro M. If there are any more like that could anyone recommend me one? Also, I need help deciding between the two because I'm an indecisive fuck. Which should I get?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3G6HsJ

r8 my build /pcbg/
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>>59506004
Meme Build/10

Just go for the 1080 at this rate
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>>59506004

Here you go. This is far more robust and nearly $100 less.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LzLQxY
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Will a G.Skill 16 GB RAM kit (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R2VBD3/gskill-memory-f42400c15d16gvb) work on a Ryzen motherboard (preferbally a B350 one)?
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>>59506652

Check here -
https://www.gskill.com/en/configurator
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>>59506684
What happens if my RAM isn't listed there? Will it just not work?
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>>59506720

I'm almost 99% sure it will work. To be sure, there is usually a listing of compatible ram on the motherboards web page. Try to find that page and see if your ram is listed there.
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Anyone?>>59500609
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>>59506748
It's not, which is why I'm worried. Granted, there will be more testing with R5 around the corner but I'm still a bit worried
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>>59492641
Absolutely. In fact you should buy 3 7700ks. They're only going to go up in value.
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r8
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>>59506761
>I'm worried

Don't be. Ease your mind this way — Find your motherboard on pcpartpicker.com. Click on it to see its page. Look down along the left side for the memory types it accepts. Your ram is 288-pin DIMM. You ram is DDR4-2400.

For example —
Mother board (AMD B350)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yBtWGX/asrock-ab350-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350-pro4

Notice that is says it accepts 288-pin DIMMs up to DDR4-2666? It also specifically mentions the 2400. Your ram is compatible with that motherboard.
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Graphics card question: Anyone knows how long it usually takes from the first reference design card are released till manufacturers get aftermarket cards out? Couldn't seem to find that info anywhere...
Reason is that I'm contemplating getting an RX480 but just read about RX580 coming out in a month or so. 'Rumours' say slightly better performance and higher efficiency. Power matters when you pay your own bills...
I could wait a month or two but more than that seems like a bit too long...
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>>59506787
Hope you don't game on that i5 cause you will get endless stutter in modern games.
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>shill for 16:9
>Windows 10 has 4-corner snap to.
>Web video sites need to be reduced from my normal zoom to not chop off vertically

I'm sorry 16:10. Please come back and fuck 16:9 in the ass.
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>>59497676
Under the shroud is the HDD cage, and no hole bellow it sadly.
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>>59506787
>Over $2000
>RX480
Why would you do this, get a 1070 at least.
Btw if you buy your components domestically from NZ you should kill yourself, just buy it from Newegg and get that shit imported, saves so much money.
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Is Seasonic Eco 430 any good? Anybody used it? What's the difference from the standard s12II?
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>>59491686
The XFX 480 GTR is better
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>>59491765
>upgrading within the same generation
get cancer you retarded faggot
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dual 1080 or one 1440p
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>>59492641
>>59493233
>>59497407
>>59501045
>>59506004
>>59506787
Just get a ryzen cpu instead

>>59494095
ryzen 7 1700 if you want to try your luck with the silicon lottery
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>>59497824
You sound like me tbqh.
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>>59507936
Others are cheaper and or better and Caseking is overpriced, buy at Mindfactory if possible, also saves you shipping for orders >=100€ after midnight.
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Trying to get your attention again, /g/.

R8


https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/67hzjc
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Any other Canucks waiting for NCIX to ship some G4560s? I ordered mine two weeks ago and nothing, they won't even give me a timescale when to expect stock.
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>>59508673
>NCIX Canada
>good shipping
their shipping services are shoddy
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>>59508673
I ordered an AM4 board from NCIX almost a month ago, and still nothing.
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will a i5 2500k OC'd to 4.2ghz bottleneck a RX 480?
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How exactly do I go about fixing my system after putting in a new motherboard and cpu?

Going from 8350 to ryzen 1700, with windows 8.1

What's the easiest method to go about for this?

Just get a Windows 10 installation disk and throw that in when starting up?
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>>59508392
>upgrading for more than twice the performance of my current system
Yeah, literally crazy. I honestly planned to keep my Pentium until I could get an i7 for cheap. It just happened that I can get an i5 from a friend. Also a friend's building his own and I'll be selling my current CPU+GPU to him 4 cheap. Suck it fag.

Anyway just fyi I already decided on this card:
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/tJyxFT/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-sc-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6163-kr
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>>59506649
>>59506302
>>59508466
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LFZMr7

Ok I made some edits. What do you guys think?
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>>59508992
Would it be better to take the hit and order a G4600 for $20 more since they're in stock everywhere? I have every other part for my new budget build and it's fucking killing me waiting for NCIX here.
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>>59509701
yes, it has slightly higher clock but it also has a better igpu. HD 610 -> HD 630. Not that it matters but that is essentially what you pay extra for.
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>>59493203
Think it's just the sleep setting fucking around. Mine does this about 15 seconds after I lock my co.puter. Check your settings for screentimeout
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Is this a good GPU?
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Just bought:

SteelSeries mouse pad
EVGA G2 650W Gold PSU
Metro ED500 electronic duster

PC complete, unless I buy custom PSU cables.
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>>59509533
Get G2 series PSU, not Supernova.
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>>59508673
I ordered my case from NCIX on a Tuesday and got it that Friday. I'm on West Coast USA and I assume they shipped from BC.
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does this look good?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/crg6xY
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I want to build a cheap pc only for playing lol. I'm thirdworlder btw, and dollar is fucking expensive here. My budget is $300. Anyone can help me?
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>>59511373
Forgot to mention, I have already the monitor, mouse, keyboard, etc.
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Hey guys. Never Built a PC before, or even had a pc for gaming. Decided id like to give it a shot but was looking at a pre built model. Most of the comments say it's a good deal and a similar price, if not cheaper, than building it myself I'd like to be able to game comfortably when anything i want but i will also be using this PC for audio engineering and possibly video editing. Im in the USA....Here is the computer from best buy

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-supreme-liquid-cooled-desktop-intel-core-i7-32gb-memory-geforce-gtx-1070-240gb-solid-state-drive-3tb-hdd-black-orange/5374302.p?skuId=5374302 for 1540.

another i looked at has the same specs but 16 gb ram with 2 tb HD with 128GB SSD. for 1430.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-supreme-liquid-cooled-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-120gb-ssd-2tb-hdd-black-blue/5374303.p?skuId=5374303

I feel like for a 100 dollars i may as well go with the first one.

Im looking at 2 monitors. One is an extra wide lg that would be good for multi tasking. The other is a 144 hz that is better for gaming. Do you guys think that one it really makes that much of a difference? Will i run into problems trying to game with a 21:9 ratio?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-29-ips-lcd-hd-219-ultrawide-monitor/4922000.p?id=bb4922000&skuId=4922000

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-24-led-fhd-monitor-black/8767099.p?skuId=8767099

both are about the same price. My overalll budget is 1800 dollars give a take a hundred or 2. Anyway what do you guys think?
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>>59510768
The G4560 is sold out across all of Canada, nobody has it in stock right now. I think this isn't a problem with NCIX, more with the short supply of this CPU thanks to it becoming a meme on youtube.
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>>59511409
>>59511373
Try raising your budget to around $400 to $500. Unless you go around buying used parts, you will be stuck around $500.
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>>59511479
To be more specific...someone posted the exact brands of what you would be getting with the first one.

Gigabyte GTX1070 (Founders Edition) loaded with latest drivers
Gigabyte GA-z170-hd3p
Intel Core i7 6700k 4ghz
32GB DDR4 Corsair Value Select (2133mhz)
256 GB SAN DISK z400s
TOSHIBA DT01ACA300 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb
Not sure about power supply. I think it's 800watt standard CyberPower (non modular)
NZXT 340 (very well made)
No bloatware at all - came with Windows 10 CD
Asetek liquid cooling with push/pull fan system.
Top case fan is exhaust
Bottom fan underneath case is exhaust
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dbpTqk

Trying to make a full RGB autismo build. I call it: Project Rainbow Barf. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to add or change?
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>>59511657
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>>59511479

You can build your own pc. It isn't hard. You will get a tremendous sense of accomplishment and satisfaction from building it yourself. You will even learn quite in the process.

The best reason to build your own is because you will maximize your money. You are looking to spend $1800. You could build a monster pc for that money, but BestBuy gives you an ordinary pc for that money.

Examine this ~$1650 pc -
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kvrkm8
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>>59511732

Then you can take that $1650 build and make one change, upgrading from the GTX 1080 to a GTX 1080ti, taking you to just over your $1800 mark. Performance wise, you can't improve much better than this rig.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pkpTqk
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>>59511732
Thank you. That does look good and includes one of the monitors i was looking at! I'll be honest, i really just dont know anything about computers so i'm a bit intimidated. Wouldn't want to spend that much money and then fuck it up due to ignorance.

would you mind giving me your opinion on this particular model?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-supreme-liquid-cooled-desktop-intel-core-i7-32gb-memory-geforce-gtx-1070-240gb-solid-state-drive-3tb-hdd-black-orange/5374302.p?skuId=5374302
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Was going to build another PC, but have decided to wait a bit more since I don't really play anything that is super demanding. Current is a g752 with a 6700HQ/980M and it seems to do fine with most things.

That being said, I'm looking to maybe get a nicer monitor since I don't think there's a point to building something with a 1080ti when all I have are 1080p 60hz screens. Recommendations? I really like the ultrawides but $1200 for a fucking 34" ips panel makes my dick hurt.
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>>59511855
another reason i want to go the best buy route is that i can pick it up in store. I live in a dodgy building in NYC and it can be difficult to get packages. Don't want to get like 10 different expensive things delivered.
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>>59511891

I can understand that. I also live in NYC (Staten Island). As a New Yorker, I recommend buying through NewEgg. They charge no additional taxes in New York (which results in significant savings), and most of their stuff ships for free. Also, and relevant to your concern, NewEgg ships via FedEx, offering to ship to your home or to a FedEx pickup location. Your stuff sits at the FedEx pickup location waiting for you to pick it up at your convenience.

As for that BestBuy pc, it's hard to give a proper assessment on it because so little is described specifically by BestBuy and the manufacturer. Look, you know one thing about it — you are overpaying for the pc because you are paying all of their overhead to assemble it for you. For your money, you would do far, far better to build it yourself. It really is a simple thing to do. It simply takes patience to read the manuals and about an hour to build it. I recommend watching "build your own pc" tutorial videos on youtube. It really is much easier than you think. But if you really are too uncomfortable with it, go ahead and buy a pre-made pc. My first pc was a pre-made and I eventually took it all apart and rebuilt it. Perhaps you will too.
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>>59512053
ok cool. guess i shouldnt go the lazy route. I'll check out some videos. Thanks!
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So I currently have:

-Non-k 4790
-Asrock z97 pro4
-16gb of generic 1600 ddr3

I have the chance to grab a 6700k for the same price these 4790's sell used here. Is it a good idea to grab it + board and ddr4 ram, and sell the previous parts, or even without the difference in cpu value it's still not worth it?
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Do you guys think Intel will release another cheap Pentium like the G4560 again for Coffee Lake later this year? Or is it not worth it for them to do so (as it probably hurt i3 sales)?
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>can't decide on monitor edition

Perfect.
Is 1440p too much for a 24" monitor? Are there scaling issues with Win10?
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Am I missing out buying 1080p low hz monitors I was gonna make a 800 dollar build to play witcher and shit but I have used 1440p and it's comfy but expensive
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Thinking about building a mid-range PC for ~$600. I was thinking about this build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wYP42R
Is this good?
I already have an SSD in my main rig, and a 1TB hard drive, hence why there's no hard drives or solid state drives in my list.

I'm planning to play Overwatch, Skyrim SE, Fallout 4, GTA 5, Assassin's Creed, and more. Mainly Overwatch though.
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I posted in another thread, but i'll post here too since i need several opinions. Here goes:

You guys know your shit, and i am pretty noob at this stuff - i need some advice. So my current motherboard is a pretty old Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3V and i want to buy MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X, 8GB GDDR5X, 256bit

Will it be compatible? Will it fit in the slot ? Will the power cable be ok? Should i expect any issues?

My current GPU is a 660GTX and it's starting to feel bad. Help me please anons.
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I can snag a 980ti for 300 bucks. I currently have an r9 290. Worth it?
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>Purpose
Video games and 3D rendering

>Budget
2500$ Canadian dollars btw

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/P32PGf

Should buy it later this week
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Can /g/ agree on the perfect build?
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>>59496325
these monitors aren't calibrated very accurately from the factory, I got two and both are differently calibrated
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>>59491137
who the fuck plays video games like that? looks awful
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>>59512768
guys...help?
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>>59513107
You will get a bottleneck, especially if you are getting a 1080.
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>>59513171
what does that mean ?
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>>59513241
It basically means your hardware will force other parts of your build (usually the GPU) to run slower than intended because it is outputing too many instructions than the computer can keep up with it.

I would reccomend reading up about it/doing some research though.
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>>59513337
oh, do you think the performance drop will be significant? my CPU is Intel i5-3570k, quad core 3800mhz, 8GB RAM
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>TFW like the aesthetic of the boxier Carbides
>TFW the Carbide 100R and 200R both have that ventilation-killing face
>TFW the SPEC cases have shit like fake screws
>The 300R has the flat face and the ventilation, but has fake screws
>To get the combo I want I have to pay like $100 fucking dollars for what was intended to be a cheap case
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so I want to render/run shit in the background and game
I'm thinking of doing a 1700
is this a good plan and just split the cores to 4 dedicated to the game
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>>59513450
With that CPU quite possibly. Granted, the 1080 is a 1440p/4k card anyways so if you are using it for 1080p I doubt it will bottleneck that hard. Don't quote me on that though. I would personally look into upgrading to a mid range GPU instead of a high tier one instead. You might be able to upgrade your mobo/CPU with the extra money you would've spent on a 1080 anyways.
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My five year old SSD just kicked it, and my HDDs are antique and loud. Is 256GB SSD / 1TB HDD still the mid-tier storage pair of choice? What's the best value 1TB HDD, and what's the most reliable 256GB SSD? A fucking leaf btw
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>>59513540
actually i was thinking of slowly upgrading the rest of my parts - the GPU is the hard part since its so expensive, and i kinda need it now. Andromeda runs pretty badly on my current gpu
>inb4 "he plays Andromeda"
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>>59513566

You can find a 512GB SSD on craigslist for ~$150. A 512 GB isn't going to be THAT old, they've only been affordable for a year or 2.
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>>59513598
not that anon
Andromeda is pretty bad though...
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>>59513598
Get a RX 480 (though I would suggest waiting for the 500s for ayyymd) or the GTX 1060 for 1080p gaming, whichever is cheapest where you live. The difference between the two is really negligable. Or just get a 1070 if you don't mind paying a bit extra (around 400 burgerbux last I checked)
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>>59512754
help pls
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>>59513659
1 - i already bought it
2 - got nothing else to play
3 - i'm hyped for it for too long and i can tolerate it's flaws

>>59513661
the GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X i want to get is at a lower price - i can get it at around 628 $ (Romania)
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>>59513668
Got some edits for you.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9zFjgL
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>>59513604
But why? I'm just keeping Windows and a few common programs on it. Why get a used SSD?
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>>59513711
Are the rest of those models higher priced than the 1080 where you live? Because if so that's insane.
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Should I get a z170 board with beefier VRM's or a modern z270 with lesser VRM's + more expensive. I don't see a benefit for extra PCI lanes to be honest, at least for me.
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>>59513819
yes - for example ASUS GeForce® GTX 1080 STRIX, 8GB GDDR5X, 256-bit is at 825 $ - just 1 example, tons more like it, some at higher prices
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>>59513848
I meant models like the RX 480 and the GTX 1060 or 1070.
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What's a good B350 motherboard right now? I haven't heard good things about them, which sort of making me regret impulse buying the 1700X.
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>>59513900
I've seen good things about the msi tomahawk
it doesn't have the level of memergb support as other boards though
currently only supports up to 2900 memory speeds on a few memory models but 2600 is probably what you will get until the bios gets better
a shame because you get massive performance boosts from higher clocked ram on ryzen in games
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I need a new PSU lads. I bought a 650 watt EVGA power supply to go with my i5-6600K and R9 390.
It suddenly died and its not even sold directly by amazon anymore.
Recommendations?
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>>59513865
2 most expensive ones with no discount on them:

XFX Radeon™ RX 480 Dual Fan, 8GB GDDR5, 256-bit - 564 $

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 Xtreme Gaming, 8GB GDDR5 - 625 $ - this one is only slightly cheaper than the discount 1080 i am getting
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>>59513955
No warranty?

Somewhat irrelevant but was it a gold/bronze one?
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>>59493997
Are you building a quadrocopter or something?
You only need 1 chasis fan on the back and one in PU to blow hot air out. And get rid of all the extra vents / holes on the roof / sides / back to make cool air flow only through the front.
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>>59513984
Just get the RX 480 then.
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>>59514101
gold
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>>59514306
>And get rid of all the extra vents / holes on the roof / sides / back to make cool air flow only through the front.

Or just don't buy a case that has holes to have holes. Functional design is important.
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>>59514575
It's like with top-mounted PSUs. Top-mounted PSUs only make sense if the PSU is upside down and venting through the top of the case. Yet these imbeciles keep making top-mounted PSU cases where they're designed to vent downward into the case with the plausible intent of having the back exhaust fan handle it. Heat rises. Heat fucking rises. It's one of the most basic fucking things.
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>>59514650
I like case designs where the psu is in its own little part so it's heat doesn't even come near the other parts
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>>59514650
Important note: If you ever have your PSU face upside, you need filtering to protect it from dust. It also makes it vulnerable from the top. There are select situations where a top-mount could work facing down, but given it totally fucks up the balance of the case I think it's more a liability.
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>>59511269
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/crg6xY
if your going to do a white pcb build get ryzen and the msi titanium mobo
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>>59511707
>>59511657
>>59511732

looks like total shit
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>>59514947
Thanks for the constructive criticism.
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Just bought an i3 6100.
Should I kill myself?
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>>59508528

Not understanding technology is a nightmare when you just want to have some simple fun

If any anons decide to help >>59497824, just remember, you'd be killing two birds with one stone
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>>59516233
I'll help you. Tell me more about how you'd like to game.

We might need a new thread soon though.
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Does anyone here have any experience with Corsair's SF600 SFX PSU? I'm planning a Powermac G5 casemod/build which needs an SFX unit, since I don't really feel like taking the PSU casing off.
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>>59516297

I own one.
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>>59516336
What's the rest of your build? I'm mainly concerned about noise here since I know it'll do 600W continuous, but my current setup can draw up to like 550W and I'd like it to stay quiet at least the majority of the time.
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I just cannot find a case without fatal flaws. Fuck.
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>>59516441
What are the fatal flaws of Fractal cases exactly?
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I'm Just Wait™ing for the R3 1200X to come out to build my first gaming computer.

I'd like to maybe buy some parts now if they're on sale, and have a few questions to confirm my own suspicions

First, would it be smart to buy the CORSAIR CX-M Series CX550M while it has the $20 rebate, or will there be better options between now and the R3?

Second, any idea when the RAM prices will drop?

Third, do you expect the Wraith that will come with the 1200X to fit in the typical mATX case? I'm thinking the Fractal Core 1000/1100.

Fourth, Speaking of which, is there any reason to get the 1000 over the 1100, or vice versa?

Thanks.
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>>59493373
I bought a Zotac gtx 980... it runs like shit. My friend got a very similar build to mine, except get got a MSI 970, and it outperforms mine....
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>>59516491
The monolithic face on a case, no matter what anyone tells you, will always bite you in the ass. Because that's where your HDDs are. No ventilation is bad juju.
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>>59514306
>air cooling
>in a corsair 700D
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>>59516523
But all their gets out from behind, there are 2 fans behind the face blowing air out towards the bottom of the case. There is no need for holes there.
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>>59516504
Make that the Fractal Core 1000/1100/1500 since they're all the about same price.
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>>59516698
The 1500 looks like it has a much nicer interior to work with. 1000 and 1100 seem to use the same interior frame with the only difference between the two cases being the front panel.
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>>59516724
Yeah, it seemed like the higher end one, so might as well pay the extra couple dollars since they're about the same price.

Care to look at my earlier questions?
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>>59516738
Nevermind, PCPart Picker was lying to me. SuperBiiz just has insane shipping. Guess it's between the 1000 and 1100 then.
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>>59516738
I know the old Corsair CX PSUs were pretty shit, so I don't completely trust anything with the CX branding. CS, HX, RM series seem to be good though, as is pretty much anything from Seasonic or Super Flower. EVGA normally rebrands Super Flower units so they're usually good too.

As for RAM prices, no one really knows. Whenever manufacturers start cranking up their production again.

And I've yet to see a stock cooler that doesn't fit in a standard mid-tower case. Even the big first-gen Wraith cooler will have no trouble fitting in a Core 1000/1100/1500.
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>>59516866
Cool, thanks. AMD is making me wait but I want to get started already!
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>>59516866
My TX 650 is still ticking after 9 years.

Do they even make that one anymore?
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>>59516996
Haven't seen the TX branding around in some time now. Got good reviews back in the day though.

I just know CX a shit.




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