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This thread is about the appreciation of horology, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.

>Required Viewings For Newbies:
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>Strap Guide:
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First for Patel felipe.
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>>61417351
Should I get this amphibia for equivalent of 30 euros?
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>>61417363
Who?
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>>61417351
you linked the wrong thread,

>>61417364
fuck no
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>>61417364
That shit is disgusting and I say it as a former slavshit collector.
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Looking to get a low end 100-200£ minimalistic looking watch. All I've seen that I like is Skagen, anything else I could look at that fits my description?
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>russian watches
seriously, why

they're ugly as fuck, they don't keep good time, and did I mention they're ugly as fuck?

do uggo neckbeard failures see these watches as a reflection of themselves? is that why BOCKTOK and PAKETA is so popular on /g/?

or is it a running joke I'm just not picking up on?
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What can I get in Seiko 5's price range that isn't a Seiko?
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>>61418138
Honestly I bought an amphibia to go camping and shit like that because it was cheap i didn't care about it and it is super waterproof. Turns out its so inaccurate its useless as a watch, the lume is horrible, and it just generally sucks.I returned it but i do miss it sometimes. It sucked but it was a cool object and it was cheap. Ill probably pick an se up at one point just to wear in the worst possible environments.
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>>61418180
>What can I get in Seiko 5's price range that isn't a Seiko?

Quartz watches.

BOCTOK XDDDD

A noose
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>>61418180
Sift through Ebay. Tons of cool vintage watches.

Or save your money a bit longer and get something nice.
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>>61418316
>Or save your money a bit longer and get something nice
Give me some recommendations.
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>>61418362
Jaquet Droz "charming bird"; suits just about any occasion.
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Love this automatic citizen diver I picked up for 90€.
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>>61418362
Patek Philipe Grand Master Chime
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>>61418477

is this bait?
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>>61418532
Why would it be?
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>>61418138
Hi
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>>61418422
I might have no taste but Seiko 5 looks better.
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>>61418180
The thing about shitters. meaning any watch up to 500 dollars is that they are disposable. Service costs are expensive. If you buy a sarb033 for example. You are spending 400+ dollars but the movement is worth the same price as a service. So its usually better to either replace the entire movement instead of having the watch serviced. If you can toss your movement out and replace it for the same amount as a service the watch is not worth buying. The seiko5's are literally cheaper than a shitty mass produced movement. They are mean to be disposable watches. It will last you a long time i guess but when its done its done. You don't get to keep it. Its not accurate or nice either. If you are poor buy a seiko 5. If you cans save 600 dollars don't.
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>>61418362
Well what style of watch do you like?
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>>61418620
Mostly simple ones, not something showing most of the mechanism in it. I was thinking of something with a blue face.
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>>61418718
Well if you are into a diver the blue Orient Ray II AA02005D is great value for money.

Hamilton has a blue dial field watch if you want to get something military looking and entry level swiss.
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What brands make actually nice rectangle watches? Any with moon phases?
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>>61418886
JLC
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>>61418886
Jaeger-LeCoultre has the Reverso which is the ultimate rectangle watch. The steel versions are actually affordable, but I prefer gold for a dress watch.

Vacheron also makes some nice ones.
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>>61418974
...And here's a JLC Reverso with a moon phase complication.
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Greetings
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Is this fixable?
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>>61419030
Nice overseas. The tag is definitely the odd one out though.
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>>61419044
Maybe, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Find someone that specializes in accutrons that isn't that fraud mybob.
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>>61419030
Can you post pic of the movement of your Overseas?

How good is the finishing in real life?
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>>61419045
Thanks. The tag is the watch I wear abroad. Also my first "nice" watch so it has a special place in my heart [spoiler]even though it's a quartz[/spoiler]
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>>61418799
I like military design and Hamilton's look nice. That orient looks pretty good too, I don't have a diver yet, maybe I'll get it.
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>>61419063
What is wrong with mybob
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>>61419030
That VC is stunning. The hulk is a good wacth but i would personally never wear a green bezel face watch like that. the tag is shit.
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>>61419076
The finishing is amazing. I like the contrast between the brushed and polished parts in the metal bracelet.I use the rubber strap mostly though because I don't want to scratch the metal bracelet

>>61419101
Yes I don't wear the hulk often, but it looks much better in person than in images. Agree with the tag lol but it's my first watch and I wear it when traveling to places where my other watches aren't appropriate
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>>61419099
He doesn't know how to fucking service an accutron, and probably any watch for that matter. The only thing he did to my spaceview was scratch & bend the shit out of my kreisler and make the spaceview itself gain 6s per minute. I got a real watchmaker (watchmakeranon) to fix his fuckups thankfully.
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>>61417351
Op why is it so hard for you to link the new thread in the previous one?
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>>61419136
>The finishing is amazing. I like the contrast between the brushed and polished parts in the metal bracelet.I use the rubber strap mostly though because I don't want to scratch the metal bracelet

Man that looks stellar anon. Your exact watch is my grail. I think VC really nailed it with the current Overseas collection whereas I think they kind of botched it before, both from a design standpoint (as they look really clunky and dated) and the movement not being in-house. I love my Explorer II but it's a daily beater as opposed to an ultimate grail piece you buy for the horological perfection.
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>>61417351
I bought this recently.
How did I do?
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>>61419280
Terrible, why are you even asking?
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>>61419231
> I think VC really nailed it with the current Overseas collection whereas I think they kind of botched it before, both from a design standpoint (as they look really clunky and dated)
I agree with you on this one, although I think we are a minority in our preference for the newer model's design. I really, really like this watch and like the fact that it flies under the radar most of the time (vs an AP RO or a rolex) which is a key reason for why I like it. But I think than you should keep that in mind, because not a lot of people would appreciate shelling out £19K for something and not drawing a lot of attention from it.
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>>61418477
Pretty nice, I like the blue dial and orange hand thing gives it a 70s vibe. But I think it would look better with a different bezel and band.
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>>61419336
>But I think than you should keep that in mind, because not a lot of people would appreciate shelling out £19K for something and not drawing a lot of attention from it.

That's one of the reasons I like it. Stealth wealth is so much more classy than nigger bling shit like a two tone Royal Oak.
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>>61418138
You are right, but they are cheap and fun to mod.
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>>61419441
My thought process too lol. In the end, I'd prefer recognition from 1 watch enthusiast vs 10 "normal" people.
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>>61418180
can you actually name the price range?
most expensive seiko 5 on amazon.com is $625.

>If you can toss your movement out and replace it for the same amount as a service the watch is not worth buying.
bullshit.
most workhorse movements are cheaper than a service, for example all Tudors with no in-house movement.

servicing only makes no sense if it's the same cost as the watch.
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>>61419441
>>61419508
that's not stealth wealth but geeking out.
old money will look down on you for being such a weird geek.
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>>61420020
top grade eta's cost more than a service my man.

>>61420329
pls go
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>>61420020
>can you actually name the price range?
>most expensive seiko 5 on amazon.com is $625
Well I got mine for equivalent of about $100 so I've been thinking of up to $150-200.
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Who else /waiting/ for their watch to come back from the watch man? My lord marvel is in for service right now and I'm dying to get it back.
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>>61420329
I'm pretty sure anyone would look down on me for being such a weird geek.
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>>61420478
high beat seiko is only seiko i would ever buy.
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>>61420478
36000 jewels ?!

This is why the Japs beat the Swiss
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>>61420409
>top grade eta's cost more than a service my man.
how much do you think an eta movement and service by tudor's service center costs?

>>61420529
considering that both fast-beat movements and seiko are service nightmares that sounds strange.
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>>61420652
top grade movement customized by eta is easily over 500 usd whereas a service is going to be around 300.


>>61420652
I don't really like seikos but at least the movement in that watch is interesting. Having said that i would still never buy it. Its just the only one i would buy.
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With all this talk of service costs and whatnot answer me this. What is the highest grade luxury watch with the lowest cost to service?
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>>61420969
Its all pretty much the same. if its a top brand watch with no complications and its not a chronograph you are pretty much paying the same service cost. ETA's are actually typically cheaper to service if you are willing to go third party as everyone can service them. But spending 4k on an ETA based watch is sort of a waste. But honestly if you didn't care about resale then a second hand non cuck axial eta 2892-a2 non chrono Omega would probably be a good buy(if low service costs were your number one priority).
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>>61420020
Tudor modifies the movement themselves, you can't just drop in any other garbage base-grade 2824 from Otto Frei or whatever.
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>>61421011
>ETA's are actually typically cheaper to service if you are willing to go third party as everyone can service them.
bullshit.
Swatch hates third parties since 2016 and wont sell spare parts to them:
http://watchguy.co.uk/swatch-group-parts-policy/
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>>61420969
for Germany (and in German but table should be self-explanatory):
http://www.watchtime.net/uhren-wissen/was-kostet-eine-uhrenrevision-12-marken-und-ihre-preise/
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>>61421178
There are still tons of parts floating around but you are right that it will no longer be the case in the future... sort of... sellita makes the same movement and even manufactured the movements for swatch. They are still producing parts. Also certain third parties are able to get omega parts.
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>>61420969
I don't know about new watches, but I can say you'd better be ready to spread those cheeks if you want to get a 50 year old watch serviced. Omega starts at like $1000 for a basic service for a vintage 3-hand date chronometer and you have to mail it in to Switzerland and wait for several months probably. I ended up going to a third party watchmaker instead and it was still like $600+ and they didn't totally fuck up but I also wasn't super happy with how they did.
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>>61419280
>right hand
weeew
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Love me some good scratches
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>>61418886
cartier
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>>61419280
You did good.
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What triggers you design-wise? For me it is 4 o'clock date windows.
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>>61418014
>>61418138
suck benis
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>>61418014
>former
What happened?


>>61418138
Stay mad.
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>>61422372
That's 4:30. This is 4 o clock.

And 4:30 is a great place for it, so it doesn't bother me.
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>>61418180
blyat amphibia
this parnis with ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal, highbeat miyota movement and solid end links (stuff that you'd see on watches in the $500+ range)
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>>61422372
i don't like that, but i mainly hate subdials that cut into the numerals. it just makes the watch feel like no time or effort went into designing it
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How many of you use a daily wearer that cost more than one thousand dollars ?
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>>61417351
What is /wt/s opinion on MVMT and Timex watches?
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>>61422691
All my daily wears are now over $1k. Honestly after putting on a good watch it simply feels bad now to use a cheap shitter, even ironically.
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>>61422691
nope. i have £1200 saved up, but everything at that price point is fucking trash, so i'm just saving for a 1601. most expensive now is my alpinist, paid £270, go for £310 now
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>>61422372

illegibility.

Hands that are thin and either don't contrast enough with the dial or whatever to make it impossible to tell time at a glance. If the watch has thin hands then they better be black and that dial should be bright white.

Legibility and accuracy are the bare minimums for me.

Things like a date window, ruggedness and a power reserve are nice to haves.

It's why I bought pic related over similar options in the price range. I can tell time on this dial from the other side of the room.
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>>61422799
timex are good because they are priced well and good quality for the money. MVMT are overpriced marketing trash for retards who have never worn a watch before.
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>>61418138
they are cute
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>>61422832
for me, that screams "FUCK, I'M SO FUCKING RUGGED!" a little too loudly.
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>>61422533
That looks pretty damn good. I've been wanting to get a diver. I'll probably get this one, thanks anon. Thinking about the one on leather strap as bracelets don't sit well on my small wrist.
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>>61420652
>both fast-beat movements and seiko are service nightmares that sounds strange.
why is that? parts availability?

I've heard low end diashock springs are hard to service but that's supposed to be less of a problem on the higher end movements
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>>61422691
I do.
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Co worker brought me in more watches but after last week when you guys told me chances are the once was radioactive I'm a bit spooked to open this one up. Do these look ok?
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Got this Timex chronograph wr 50m for $2.50. My first watch ever, did I fuck up?
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>>61423637
You certainly did not fuck up.
Epic win i'd say.
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>>61422999
the leather it comes with is probably awful but that can always be replaced, and the leather one is cheaper so i guess.
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>>61423637

For $2.50 who cares. If you like it, wear it.
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I need help finding a bracelet. I need an 18mm stainless steel solid link oyster style bracelet. Basically the exact bracelet pictured but in 18mm and one that costs preferable under 100 dollars.
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>>61419030
That VC is pretty dope.

My dad has a green sub. Only wears it on St Pattys. Fucker...
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>>61423558
lick it and find out
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>>61419030
Did a potato take this photo?
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>>61422832
God I love the design on that case, but really not a fan of that dial.
If they just brought it a bit farther away from "sporty", outline the batons and numerals in polished steel, dropped the power reserve indicator, it would be perfect
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>>61423558
left could be radioactive, no way but a giegercounter to check though
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>>61424276
The bulova could be?
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>>61424276
What about charging it under light and seeing if it glows would that be an indicator of non radioactivity?
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>>61419030

My nigga. Love the VC but that TAG needs to go.
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>>61424427
the material that causes it to glow only lasts around 5 years, whereas the radium has a half life of 1400 years (the time at which its half as radioactive as originally). so, no.
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>>61419030
>one great watch, one decent watch, and a fucking TAG
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>>61419030
>putting a VC on rubber
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>>61422625
I hate this too. It amazes me that there are high end watches with this obvious design flaw, and it amazes me even more that people buy them.
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>>61424560
What i meant was if it charges under light and then glows doesn't that mean it is traditional lume?
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Anyone know where I can get a Bagelsport? I got into watches just as it was a meme on /wt/, so it brings back fond memories.
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>>61422691

I switch between pic related, GS 9F and >>61422832
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>>61422372
Makes a LOT more sense to put the date window in between the hour markers than to replace an hour marker.
Especially on dive watches, where date windows suck anyway.
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>>61422691
I do, but only one.
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>>61425123
Are you Dutch by any chance?
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>>61422691
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>>61425111
You can find them on AliExpress. I think I saw some links in the /csg/ pastebin.
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>>61422691
I couldn't, I'd be worried about my wrist all the time. I worry enough just wearing shitters.
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>>61425253
How's the accuracy?
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>>61425361
It was +3 seconds per day or so when i bought it. Now it's -6 per day because i dropped it on tile. Oddly enough everytime it runs out of charge the second hand always stops dead center on the minute hand...
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>>61425217
I don't get it. Its like a dressy/sporty 2+ thousand dollar chronograph . It looks nice though. Can we get a movement shot?
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>>61425123
Nice watch and bracelet. I wanted to buy one but it only comes in 20mm. is that steel back hesalite crystal?
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>>61425756
The movement is not interesting, the chronograph module is on the dial side so it looks like a standard 6r through the caseback.
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>>61425483
>Now it's -6 per day because i dropped it on tile
How do people do this? I don't even drop my shitters.
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>>61425234

No, why?

>>61425773

Sapphire, front and back.

Every now and then I find myself longing for the hesalite, but then I remember how much tiny scratches bother me. I know that polywatch does wonders, but I prefer sapphire.
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>>61422691
A bunch of people I work with wear Datejusts and there's a guy with a Daytona. Lots of Speedys too. And also a lot of terrorist Casios, I keep one in my desk drawer for when I don't want to fuck up my good watches.

I see Rolexes out on the street pretty often but I don't think I've ever noticed someone wearing an Explorer I. I would think it would be one of the more common models.
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My fave watch, a W86 died today. I snagged it on stuff while carrying out some drills and broke the buckle tongue. I'll fit it with a new strap when I get home from exercise.
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>>61425808
Accidentally?
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>>61425927
On the flip side, I got new bling to replace it

>>61417351
r8 me, h8 me, d8 my choice of wristwear, /g/
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>>61425952
I still don't see how. Anything I pay more than $300 or so for I have a deathgrip on. Never drop phones, either.
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Thoughts on this Tissot? I've read on here that new Tissots have issues, is this one I should avoid? Model no is T026.420.17.281.02
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Any of you tried these?

https://aliexpress.com/store/product/SKMEI-chink-casio/1045582_32735982746.html

I just want a full metal Casio.
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>>61426182
Why the fuck would you buy a $12 knockoff A168 instead of a $12 Casio A168 ?
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>>61422508
Yeah but you have shit taste so your opinion does not matter.
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>>61426247
The real ones are plastic. Are you retarded? Try reading the fucking post next time.
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What's the point of paying out the ass for a nicely finished watch when it starts getting scratched up the second you put it on?
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>>61426345
If you're using that logic, there's no point in buying anything, ever. Hell, just stop eating and breathing right now, you're going to die anyway.
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>>61426282
Ali "all metal" casio knockoffs are about 50/50 to get real metal, or a knockoff based on the same plated plastic as the A168.

Those that really are all metal tend to be zinc based and corrode quickly when surface plating is damaged/scratched and exposed to sweat.
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>>61426417
Sure, but they said they want a "metal" one. That piece of shit fits their criteria.
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>>61426438
>I want a low quality knockoff just because it's more weighty on my wrist but because it uses cheap metals that range from health risk, to just plain bad, if I even end up with metal at all.

It's worth pointing out that their preferences have implications they maybe haven't thought through.
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>>61426502
The reviews on Aliexpress are generally pretty accurate.
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>>61424877
>>61422625
B-BUT MUH HOROLOGICAL HERITAGE
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>>61426182
Pulsar makes this digital. Steel case.
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>>61426550
stock picture
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>>61426162
>Thoughts on this Tissot
Looks like a toy.
>new Tissots have issues
That's probably about mechanical ones with powermatic movement. The one you posted is quartz.
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>>61426182
Seriously my dude.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-New-Fashion-Black-silver-Couple-Watch-digital-watch-square-military-men-women-dress-sports-watches/32605431997.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.NIM91D
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>>61426162
This reminds me of a some Wal-Mart digi/analog sports watch I had back in like elementary school.
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I need to get it fixed i dropped it a while ago and it doesn't keep time right anymore
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>>61426162
Looks like a McDonnalds toy from the 90's.
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>>61426771
Honestly, it'll probably cost more to fix than buying a new one, unless you plan to just swap the movement at home.
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>>61426400
There's probably nothing you can buy that is so meticulously finished. Not even actual jewellery.
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>>61426804
sadly i do not know how to swap the movement myself
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>>61422691
cost more than $1000? Or is worth more than $1000?

asking for a friend
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>>61425882
archie?
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>>61426855
Learn, nigga
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>>61427208
rip oilman
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Since there's already som discussion on poorfag Slav watches, how do you guys feel about ministry/710 cases? As of late I've taken a liking to square divers, and I've been kind of wanting a 710 with one of the simpler dials in black or blue.
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>>61426056
Oh well i washed it in the sink and wrapped it in a towel. Then i hopped in the shower and grabbed the towel on the way out. Watch was still wrapped up.
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>>61427262
Maybe a scuba dude too, but I can't find one with a blue face.
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Did Ontario man see Shane like he planned ? I'm dying for my watch back I'm very excited.
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>>61427262
710 scuba dude. I would personally go with the blue scuba dude.
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>>61427375
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19 yo poorfag student here.
what would be the best pick for around 100€?
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>>61427448
Depends highly on your taste and purposes.
How long is a piece of string?
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>>61427448
snk809 Seiko with a decent quality NATO or leather strap
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>>61427662
plastic looking bezel
niche field watch style (shitty homage since it's a flieger but with unrealistic day-date and size)
pretty small at 37mm and wears small (looks girly on >7" wrists)
non-versatile black face
shit movement (inaccurate, non-hacking, loud rotor, plastic components)
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>>61420053
Haha fuck. My dad had this watch. I used to wear it for a while. I remember it so vividly. Never seen it anywhere else.
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Why come nobody ever talks about the Seiko transocean on here?
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He fell for the watch meme. SAD!
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>>61427393
It's a shame they don't make a blue scuba dude like >>61427291 though.
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How did I do? Got it in Thailand for an equivalent of 400 USD. I really like the transparent case.
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>>61427882
I wonder about this.

Is the 1k watch segment a tricky one perhaps?
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>>61428061
Here's the back side.
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>>61428061
>>61428077
My condolences.
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>>61422691

i'd say about 60% of my work wears the same Breitling Aerospace and those are from a group deal that's about $2500. i wear my GMT Master most days. a big watch is expected in my line of work.
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Does this fit me, /wt/?
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>>61427803
I've bought two and they are great daily beaters, especially for poor college students

>plastic looking bezel
in person they don't look plastic, it's a matte
>niche style, shitty homage
I wouldn't say it's a homage, never heard anyone describe it as such. Who really cares about style when you are looking for a beater, relatively cheap watch?
>looks small, girly
that is just subjective. It's a utility watch that is non obstructing and gets the job done
>shit movement
it's a shitty Malaysia movement, but it's still reliable. Out of the two that i've bought, it holds decent time, very little variation and consistent

tl;dr
I disagree
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>>61428061
>>61428077
nice bait
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>>61428061
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>>61428346
Yeah quite well. Too bad you're really hairy though.
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>>61427882
Cool watch ruined by ugly case design.
Weird floating design and no standard lugs.
Also the monster arrow hour hand.
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>>61428443
I am kinda hairy, but there's something going on with the lighting in this pic.
You can tell by the stark shadows everywhere.
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>>61428061
>>61428077
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>>61427262
That watch looks ok but i really only like the 420 case
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>>61427882
Why the fuck would anyone buy that?
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>>61428346
its in between big and the perfect size. It is a diver though so it works ok. I wouldn't wear it with a suit.
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>>61427803
I agree with most of the criticisms towards the SNK series, but 37mm being small? Really man? Do you wear nothing but 45mm and up?
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>>61428842
there are people with taste that wear 36-40mm watches regardless of wrist size. And there are plebs.
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>>61427882
because it's fugly
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>>61427882
The blue 8R chrono makes me super hard, too expensive for me though.
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>>61428346

Seriously considering this, but maybe after the prices come down a bit. Which they will.

$4k+ for it is just too much.
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>>61429002

People bought it at 4k for an ETA, now it's only a few hundred more for an in-house movement. Price isn't going down.
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>>61429002
Could just buy used m8.
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>>61429002
its a pretty good deal at 4k my man
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>>61429002
buy used?

even if your a millionarie like me, its stupid to buy used lol xD
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>>61428858
>there are people posting in this thread RIGHT NOW who think 40mm is actually ok
38.5mm is really the upper limit for good taste

if you are LITERALLY scuba diving when you wear it then yeah, "fashion" is obviously not a significant concern, but otherwise, yeesh
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>>61429341
Not everybody has wrists as small as yours, relax.
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>>61429341
I have 8" wrists, 40mm is pretty much perfect.
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>>61429341

I have 8 inch wrists and I feel like my sarb035 is the perfect size for me.
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>>61429198

No it isn't. For a little over that you can get an actual Rolex.
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>>61429821
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>>61420478
who's the butcher you sent it to?
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>>61429831

Yes?
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>>61429831
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>>61430017
you can get a explorer for less than that even, i once saw a $3500+ deal
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>>61429896
Shane Ede. From what I've heard he's far from a butcher especially when it comes to the lord marvel.
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>>61430075
you a leaf, or you sent it across international borders just to be serviced?
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>>61430189
Resident southern Ontarian along with a few others here
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>>61430017
Mine was like $4100 with box and papers and everything, a very early 114270 with a P serial number. It was recently serviced, and I guess Rolex does a hell of a job refinishing the case because it was literally spotless even taking photos of it at high magnification.

You could easily do closer to $3500 for an 114270 or 14270 if you buy something in lesser condition from a private seller on ebay or something. And the Explorer isn't even the cheapest Rolex, Air-Kings and Datejusts go for $3000 all day long.

I'm kind of curious about that sheet of paper sitting behind the watch in that picture, though. That looks like it's the COSC chronometer certificate, but I'm pretty sure Rolex doesn't give those to customers so is it some unofficial thing? It's definitely not the original warranty page, either.
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>>61429341
I personally wear a 36mm dress watch and a 39mm diver I was just allowing for slightly larger wristed people. The speedmaster is 42 and looks decent on my wrist but its really the exception. These cucks wearing 42mm red and blue seiko's are deluded as fuck though.
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>>61428346
obv not, which retard buys an LHD and then proceeds to wear it on the wrong hand?
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>>61430350
He's an enlightened gentleman who has seen the light of having the crown face away from your wrist. Not like you use that shit anyway while you wear it.
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>>61428842
>>61428858
>>61430345


look at this
>>61428948


these people are fucking delusional.
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>>61422691
Why? My daily is worth about $10k
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>>61428948
>>61430385
still fine
lugs don't overshoot and macro shot will appear bigger than reality
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>>61421145
rolex/tudor is known for their shitty in-house movements, their changes to ETA are considered bad such as removing the regulator.
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>>61431068

Rolex is just about the only manufacture these days who makes all in-house movements.

and you can find Rolexes everywhere.
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>>61431087
There's several others, just not "swiss".
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>>61431068
>free sprung balances are bad
>the company that produces the most COSC certified movements of any manufacturer by far doesn't know how to make a good movement
wat
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>>61431087
>>61431104
what is swatch
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>>61431122
Awful bullshit.
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>>61431122
Oh ok, so you're a Swatch shill I get it now. So what ugly special edition Omega are you pushing today? Is it yet another James Bond Seamaster or an Apollo Speedmaster this time?
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>>61431104

fair enough, forgot about Seiko

>>61431122

a (mainly) quartz watch manufacturer/owner of a billion different brands.
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>>61431113
>>the company that produces the most COSC certified movements of any manufacturer by far doesn't know how to make a good movement
obv you can computer-time any movement to pass cosc
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>>61431161
Also Sea-Gull.
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>>61431068
What the fuck are you even attempting to say here?
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>>61431161
>a (mainly) quartz watch manufacturer/owner of a billion different brands.
more in-house than Rolex which just license builds for example Swatch's Nivarox hairspins
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>>61431146

Source on this strap?

Please don't tell me it costs $5000.
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>>61431427
Just search 'omega cordura strap'. Apparently it's $350 if you want to get it straight from omega (so swatch).

Though in a few days I should be getting one of those mr. sailcloth straps which are $35, so I'd be able to tell you how those are.
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>>61431467
>Though in a few days I should be getting one of those mr. sailcloth straps which are $35, so I'd be able to tell you how those are.
isn't a decent deployant clasp alone $35?
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Do only thing that's been putting me off from really liking the SNK809 is the matte finish the case has. I found out today I can polish it off, but most people are using Dremels to do this. I don't have a Dremel. Can I do such a thing by hand, or with an alternative tool?
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>>61431146
snoopy watch is cool though
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>>61431610
You can get those chink deployants which are copies of the omega one for around that much, sure.
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>>61431467
$350 for a strap that is not even leather, jesus fuck
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>>61431632
Yeah, in kindergarten.
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Even though I have a Seanaster the SKX is ny true MVP
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>>61431739
Does your "m" key not work?
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>>61431739
>wearing the watch on the wrist joint
>rotating the bezel for no reason
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>>61431871
I use the timer all the time, during drives, at the pool, at work, at the gym, etc
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>>61429821
>>61429908
>>61430017
You're comparing new (Pelagos) to used and 10-15 years old (Rolex).
Also rotating bezel to fixed bezel.
Don't.
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>not having a moonphase shitter
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>>61427262
How big is your wrist? I had the the chance to try on a couple of amphibias the other day. With 17cm wrists or roughly 6.7 inches the 420 and 710 looked splendid.
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>>61433002
>not having an adventure shitter
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>>61433702
These are pretty badass. I want them
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>>61428797
I think the phone camera visually enlarged the watch compared to my arm.
It immediately seemed larger in the pic after I took it.

There's a pic floating around somewhere that shows this effect.
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Opinions on the new budget 62MAS? I kinda get why Seiko did it with modern hands and indices, the Prospex is supposed to be a line of professional, "serious" watches, and baton hands with a narrow line of lume on them just don't cut it for a XXI. century dive watch.
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>>61434443
Kinda bland, innit?
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>>61434482
>SEIKO. NICE AND BLAND.
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>>61434443
I can dig it. Wish the SLA017 wasn't so much though. The size is better on the LE too.
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>>61425111
They come upon AliExpress sometimes. Just make sure they don't send it as a half assed attempt at a Rolex 'replica'
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>>61426162
You should avoid it because it's fuck ugly.
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>>61434647
Can confirm that. I saw both milgauss and nautilus yesterday.
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>>61434443
>a line of professional, "serious" watches
lol, WTF does that even mean

a serious professional dive watch wouldn't come on a bracelet

a serious watch for professional white collar adults is not 14mm thick
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>>61425111
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-Sale-Classic-Mens-Watches-Top-Brand-Luxury-Mens-Mechanical-Watch-Bracelet-Fashion-Male-Clocks-Elegant/32799785658.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mens-Watches-Top-Brand-Luxury-Stainless-steel-Mechanical-Watch-Women-Watches-Bracelet-Fashion-Male-Clocks-Elegant/32802603689.html

Get the newer memes
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CARNIVAL-Watches-Men-Business-Luxury-Sport-Automatic-Date-Mechanical-Steel-Watch-Luminous-Mens-Tourbillon-Top-Brand/32784956717.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/40mm-Sangdo-Business-watch-Automatic-mechanical-movement-Waterproof-watch-0268a-2015-new-fashion/2012460585.html
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Which one?

>Omega Seamaster 300
Kind of blingy, but may remain more interesting to look at over time because of this.
No date window is a plus.
Can get a new one at half the suggested retail price from an acquaintance, so money-wise this is the best choice.

>Tudor Pelagos LHD
I LOVE the ruggedness and lack of bling factor (it's all matte).
Afraid it'll get boring to look at after a while because of the lack of bling factor and flat crystal.

>Omega Speedmaster pro
Love the design.
The movement is definitely not as advanced as the other two watches. Also not sure about winding every day.
Probably the most iconic watch ever, and therefore the most common and least unique of the three.
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>>61434960
If it wasn't for the coaxial movement I'd say the seamaster 300. Given that I'd go for the pelagos myself.
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>>61434960
Purely my opinion
>Omega
Cuck-axial, if you willing to live with it then it's good i guess. Just throw a suede strap in to make it less "blingy"
>Tudor
They really missed for me with this one.
7 row of texts. What's next? TUDORTUDORTUDORTUDORTUDOR?
Piss yellow markers and hands
Crow on the left
>Speedmaster
This one is cool, although a little too big for my taste. Winding a watch is part of the fun, also the movement is a fucking tank, good luck breaking it.
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>>61435114
the rating in both feet and meters really takes it to the next level

next gen version is going to have a version of the text printed in english, french, simplified mandarin, and esperanto
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>>61422625
i have this, i quite like it
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>>61435226
Fixed your soda.
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>>61435226
>Buy a watch for a couple of thousand $
>it looks like a $12 shitter from AliExpress
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>>61435305
i didnt even pay over seven hundred for it
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>>61435114
>Cuck-axial, if you willing to live with it then it's good i guess
The specs look pretty amazing, and I'm hoping most of the known issues (regarding the cushioning oil thing) relate to the old ETA-based co-axials and not this "master co-axial" which was built from the ground up to include the co-axial system.
It also looks tremendous through the display caseback.

The Tudor has similar specs for its new movement, and a solid caseback may make more sense from a purist point of view, but damn it 3-4k is a lot of money and I want to see that 'spensive movement.
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>>61435311
>>61435305
it was a gift to myself for saving 15k
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>>61435319
Considering the Tudor is supposed to be a stealth watch a display back isn't really fitting. Plus Rolex is adamantly anti-display back, which I agree with.
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>>61435319
The finishing of movement on the Pelagos is nothing impressive that make you want a sapphire case back. If you have autism about it then just buy a sapphire back then replace it, i'm sure you can find one.
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>>61435353
>>61435363
I totally get that a display caseback is a cheesy thing to do, but it's still a lot of fun to watch that thing go.
And it's hidden whenever you're wearing it, so it's stealth cheesiness.
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>>61431340
This is what /wt/ has been reduced to. We now have some dumb fuck unironically shilling The Swatch Group against fucking Rolex/Tudor.

The Rolex 31xx, 32xx, 41xx and Tudor 56xx movements are all better than any movement made by the entirety of the Swatch Group. Not a single movement that The Swatch Group currently makes is even worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as any of those, and that's not even to mention the towering difference in finishing quality.

Modern Omega is nothing more than 80% of Rolex prices for 20% of Rolex effort.
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>>61424548
I love rolex but do people really like that essay on the dial? "superlative chronometer" "officially certified". blughjhgg
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>>61427865
had this since the early 90s, left it somewhere and then found it recently. Just replaced the battery and a new strap. Fogs up though due to the deteriorated rubber seal but it works fine.
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>>61434741
>tom cruise

hope he never sees that lol

the carnival's are actually pretty good. The only thing is i have no clue if the movements are any good. Do any of those even have jeweled movements?
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>>61434960
listen to this guy
>>61435114
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>>61435226
You may as well have burned your 2 grand. It doesn't even look real.....
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>>61435114
>>Tudor
>They really missed for me with this one.
>7 row of texts. What's next? TUDORTUDORTUDORTUDORTUDOR?
>Piss yellow markers and hands
>Crow on the left

>Left hand watch
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE CROWN IS ON LEFT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Literal autism

>Piss yellow lume
Fair enough, the faux aged lume isn't something everyone enjoys. I quite like the off-white of it.

>7 rows of text
Completely agree, it's unnecessary and ruins the aesthetic of the watch. However, there's not really any way to reduce that text, while also still clearly displaying WHAT the watch is. Not sure if swiss law requires shit like that to be stated on the dial, but it seems a lot of higher end swiss pieces like Rolexes, Omegas, and Tudors all seem to have novels on the dials.
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>>61435927
Afaik swiss law only regulates when "swiss made" can be put on a watch and the amount of jewels on the movement.
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>>61435927
Its not Swiss law go look at the big three... they have nothing on the dials.
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>>61435927
>Not sure if swiss law requires shit like that to be stated on the dial, but it seems a lot of higher end swiss pieces like Rolexes, Omegas, and Tudors all seem to have novels on the dials.
Haha no what the fuck it's not legally required it's just stupid advertising. I think the most offensive unnecessary lines are GENEVE and OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED and the size of the SWISS MADE font seems to grow with every new watch. Putting chronometer and automatic (or ROTOR SELF WINDING or OYSTER PERPETUAL for special snowflakes) is traditional even though nearly every watch is automatic now. It's also kind of insulting to have to put the depth rating in both meters and feet.

Having an unnecessary amount of text isn't really a new thing, though.
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Beat Haldimann H8
>no hands, only the tourbillon visible at the center of the watch face
Beat Haldimann H9-Reduction
>top lel, black opaque crystal, can't see shit, only hear specially tuned tic-toc
PEAK HOROLOGY
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>>61436094
>Beat Haldimann H9-Reduction
what the actual fuck
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>>61436094
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>>61436243
just pop the crystal out and replace it with a transparent one.
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>>61436243
Swatch could only hope to have this amount of contempt for your buyers.
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>>61435855
They are most probably Miyotas with rubes
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>>61436751
Can you recognize this?
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>>61436822
Yup that is a miyota all right
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>>61436844
I cant find any 25 jewel miyota day date movements or any with that shock protections system. Do you happen to know the model?
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>>61436844
they also use this photo on their press release which is of a tudor movement lol
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>>61436243
>hey bro, what's the time?
>uhhhh, ceiling?
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>>61437119
lol'ed
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>>61436243
> What's the time
> Potato
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What watches would they wear?
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>>61437789
Terrorist watch and Rolex.
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>>61437789
seiko and rolex
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>>61437789
Casio and Invicta.
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>>61437789
Amphibia and no watch.
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>>61437812
>>61437818
>being this out of touch you think /wt/ memes apply to the real world

Virgin:
>Bulova Precisionist
>Seiko SARB
>vintage Datejust
>black square G-Shock

Chad:
>Michael Kors
>fake Diesel
>Breitling Navitimer rep
>chink smarwatch
>gold round G-Shock
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https://youtu.be/Km1bhlCn2CU

guy sells Seiko and still inadvertently bttfo.
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>>61437789
Left - Casio Databank

Right - a Diesel or iced Micheal Kors if poorish, Royal Oak Offshore if not.
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>>61437883
only poor chads ...rich chads wear panerai's and solid gold subs.
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>>61437789
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>>61437883
> /wt/ memes
Actually, I do not browse /wt/ and do not have a watch.
t. >>61437812
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>>61437883
>first meme is real world but memes to answer meme are not real

fuck lads what did he mean by this?
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>>61437812
>>61437818

I don't think Chads where Rolex watches anymore. It's Diesel for poorfags and Panerai and Hublot for ones with money.

Virgins wear ebay Seiko dogshit.
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>>61438076
> Virgins wear ebay Seiko dogshit.
That explains most /wt/ posts then.
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>>61438094
pretty much. The 6r15 isnt even as accurate as the fucking orient movements. but the 7s26 based diver is more expensive than the ray ii? If you are going to be a nip fag why even buy a seiko? Seikos are cheap.. ugly.. and shitty.. why the fuck do people buy them? I think they are just such cucks that they want to punish themselves.
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Just got my first nato for this cheapo that had some glue on the original leather band. Liking the strap a lot already.
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>>61437789
guy on the left
>>61438165
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Wizard:
>Vostok Amphibia
>vintage Daini Seiko
>tuning fork watch
>MOTFM
>Milgauss (Rolex or Bagelsport, doesn't matter)
>if skelly wrists: Turtle, original Flieger, Deepsea Challenge
>if fat hambeast wrists: Seiko 5, sub-35mm Vietnam field watch/Explorer, F-91W, women's dress watch from the 1920's
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>>61438186

Its true tho
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>>61438174
I've got a F91W too.
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>>61437886
btfo how?
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>>61438355

look at how wide the accuracy range is compared to everything else in the video. the 8l35 is similar tot he 125 dollar orient.
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>>61438478
Yeah, there's very little adjustment/regulation done to Seiko's movements until you get to the actual Grand Seikos.

Fortunately a lot of them are simply very accurate as is.
My green alpinist loses only one minute every month it seems, it's ridiculous.
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>>61438568
>>61438568




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