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no edition

>Buyer's template:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)
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>>61843669
what makes mechanical keyboards so satisfying to use?
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>>61843704
No mush.

Even in browns.
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>memechanical memeboards
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>>61843725

is this a joke? must be a joke...
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>>61843669
Mainstream 96 keys that aren't rubber domes when?
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Analog optical switch keyboards when? Like wooting one, but nicer, and cheaper.
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>>61843777
I don't joke nice trips.
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>>61843870
Sauce?
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>>61843910
They've been here since the 90s. No body uses them since they aren't very good. Also the wooting isn't actually analog
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>>61843930
Filename
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>>61843704
The sound / feeling when you type.
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hello
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>>61843990
Hi.
How are you, anon?
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>>61843961
Thanks. I really like that layout.
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>>61843969
What I love about being allowed to use my Model M at work is that I can fucking type away to draw out people trying to knock, and ask me stupid fucking questions.
>Sorry, cant hear ya
and the smug superiority
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>>61844030
As far as 96 key keyboards go that one is my favorite simply for the case. The RS96 is pretty close, but it doesn't have the cut outs for the RGB underglow, unless you pay double the price. The ZZ96 is also pretty good, but I don't like the back of the case.
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>>61841645

Race 3 is decent if you're fine with DSA profile keycaps, and of course there's the problem with the non-standard esc and del key. If you can get past that, it's a decent keyboard. I usually recommend Cherry profile, so I think boards like the Tada68 and KBD75 are better.
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>>61844085
What? All RS96's have RGB underglow. The standard case just has a frosted translucent acrylic sheet all along the bottom, while the deluxe case limits it to the back and part of the sides.
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Which 60% is the best: Filco, Ducky, Century, other?
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Should I replace my POM with PBT?
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Post alps
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Why are all mechanical keyboards look so bland? Why don't they make edgy looking keyboards with mechanical switches? I don't want to use a boring keyboard.
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>>61844350
Buy a razer faggot
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>>61844350
>>61844350
>Why don't they make edgy looking keyboards with mechanical switches
Have you even tried looking for this?
Because plenty exist.
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>>61844367
>>61844363
RGB alone is not edgy at all. I'm talking about something like the Ravcore Valvravn.
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>>61844389
>Ravcore Valvravn
Go to amazon and just search "mechanical keyboard"
You will find plenty like this.
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>>61844389
You have awful aesthetic sense

Anyway, this close enough?
https://www.gskill.com/en/product/ripjaws-km780r-rgb--cherry-mx-rgb-brown
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>>61844415
How is that close? It has a slight slated hand holder and that's it.
I also admit I have terrible aesthetic sense, that wasn't the point.


>>61844410
Please show me something with this design. I dare you. It's a fucking battleaxe.
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>>61844444
What a waste of quints.
I'm going to amazon right now to search "mechanical keyboard" like I said.
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>>61844444
>there are people who think that looks good
i can't even muster a witty reply i'm honestly at a loss for words
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>>61844444
Me again >>61844540
Look at all this shit I found.
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>>61843870
Masterkeys Pro M
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>>61844637
Now that's what I'm talking about! That Aula one is beautiful. Thanks a lot.
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>>61844621
Remember, people who play twitch shooters are literally giving themselves brain damage by neglecting the critical thinking areas of the brain to an excessive degree, it only makes sense they'd lose any sense of aesthetics too.
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>>61845017
this theory is probably bullshit but wow does it make sense
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>>61845057
There is only one study on it thus far, but the conclusion is sound enough. The human brain really is a use it or lose it situation.
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>>61845077
>The human brain really is a use it or lose it situation.
i post on 4chan so i can confirm
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>tfw used to be naturally talented and intelligent
>now a lethargic depressed mess with severe memory issues
This is a thread about keyboards, let's get back on topic haha

Haha...
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>>61844320
LEWD
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>>61843669
Previous >>61820418
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Find me the most expensive keyboard and i will buy it
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>>61845005
Yeah... Sure thing.
Now, I'll brb, I need to fucking purge my search history so Amazon never shows me this shit again.
>>61844166
Isn't pom supposed to be better than PBT?
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>>61843870
>not full ANSI
DROPPED
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How are bluetooth keyboards when it comes to input lag?
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>>61845708
shit
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Thoughts?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1757
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>>61846029
it's fine
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>>61843725
>>61843925
You have godawful taste in music, m8. If it can even be called that.
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>>61845353
Lewd? They peeled off her fucking skin, man!
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>>61844638
>Cherry Mx brown
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How do Cherry Silver switches feel? Do they actually feel shallow when you're using them or just if you compare them to a standard key in the moment?
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I currently have a Pok3r but I'm in need of a keyboard with dedicated arrow keys.

Is the Tada/Saber68 good? I'm coming from Cherry blues, are Gateron blues better or the same? Should I go for MOD switches?

Help me Anon...
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>>61843704
the way it looks
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>>61846029
about to pull the trigger, lads
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>>61843669
Silly question but is it safe to carry my mechanical keyboard in my bag for transportation? I don't have any hard case and I don't know if the keys could be damaged if it's just inside the bag, though there are no hard objects that it could bump against.
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>>61845491
That Russian one with OLED screens on every key
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>>61848155
Tada is great. Gat blues are great also, but apparently wobblier than cherry.

MODs are a meme, just get gat browns (unless you REALLY want meme tactility, but if you've been using cherry blues you probably don't). Yes, gateron browns are actually properly tactile, like a blue without the click, unlike cherry's piece of shit.
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>>61843725
>>61843925
>this nigger always posting pictures of his pristine keycaps and his pristine guns

Bro, do you even type, or shoot?
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>mechanicalkeyboars dot com
>switches ratings (considering only those with more than a few dozen ratings)
>gaming: cherry red, cherry brown
>typing: buckling spring, cherry blue
>universal: cherry brown, cherry blue

Why the distinction between typing and gaming? What do they even mean with "gaming"?

What makes the blue worse than browns for gaming, but better for typing?

The brown switches seem the most appreciated, but I tried them and they feel like there's sand between the slider and the casing. Do blue feel the same?
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>>61849115
>Why the distinction between typing and gaming? What do they even mean with "gaming"?
If you mental age is above 15 vs under 15.
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this thread should be pinned
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So, i bought a Ducky One Cherry Red Switch for around 80 US dollars.
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>>61849195
Do you want a sticker?
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>>61849171
Agreed
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>>61849171
You misspelled pruned.
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>>61849211
I want a filco majestouch with cherry speed silver.
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>>61849148
Fine. What about the rest?
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>>61849364
What is your mental age?
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>>61849267
can you eat that?
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Fake enjoyPBT is now on sale.
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/.../1806079_32810982138.html
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What kind of keyboard would a young Donald Trump use?
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>>61849508
An IBM 5110
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>>61849508
he doesn't use a computer. clinton could of learned a few things
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>>61849506
Are you sure it's not just actual enjoypbt?
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Are Cherry MX Brown switches a meme? I don't want a clicky noise but I want a nice tactile bump
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>>61849115
Usually when people talk about a switch for gaming they want linear switches so their key presses are as fast and accurate as possible, which is also why stuff like speed switches exist. I've heard people have issues with blues sort of registering incorrectly when people try to quickly actuate a key twice.
Blues are supposed to be better for typing because of all the feedback they provide, both auditory and physically. I don't really think it makes a difference.

MX Browns are also confirmed awful, the bump is too small and they feel like dirty linears. If you want tactile, try MX Clears or MODs. If you want smooth try Gateron Clear or Outemu Purple. If you want both prepare to drop a lot of money on Zealios or spend some time with lube.
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>>61849696
If you want a tactile bump then cherry mx browns are exactly what you don't need. Get Gateron browns or Cherry clears
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have you seen the new kailh switches? they look promising and very stable
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>>61844163
Bump
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>>61849405
Enough to not fall for shit marketing targeted at underages. I'm just trying to figure out what I should buy on the basis of actual value per price.

Fuck, all the keyboards I find on amazon are gaming shit marketed at gaymers, and nothing inside EU seems to have switches that are not Cherry MX Brown or Blue, or even Red. I've found a few with Topre, but fuck me those things are more expensive than half my PC.
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>>61849768
I was debating cherry clears, why not them? I thought they had no sound either
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>Ducky One non backlit with greens is still out of stock
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>>61849878
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/recommendedsellers
Check European resellers
>>61849907
MX Browns suck get clears or Gateron browns
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>>61845529
No idea. Doesn't POM feel different than PBT? Like abs but without the shine
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>>61849963
why do you not like browns? because of how easy they are to push?
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>>61849766
>accurate
How do you inaccurately press a key
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>>61850155
Because they feel like shit, they aren't smooth like butter, and they aren't tactile at all. The whole "Jack of all trades" is bullshit since it sucks as a whole. Even me old Logitech k120 felt better to type on then browns
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>>61850155
good luck getting any of these fucks to properly explain why they don't like browns..
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>>61850231
see
>>61850217
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>>61845077
The thing is in moderation. Code too much and one day you will be in the run from CIA niggers. The true way is to play twitch shooters to hone reflexes and quick thinking, write code to improve logic and problem solving and socialize on 4chan to expand your knowledge and satisfy social needs.
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>>61850091
This

Opinions please. I have same issue
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>>61850290

>socialize on 4chan

holy shit this is the worst idea ever
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a couple of days ago i made a post whining about the corsair strafe. corsair came though and provided info on fixing the problem. i still feel like i want to hop on a ducky shine 6 with reds. should i? i game a lot. almost too much. i do some programming on the side.

Will blue fuck me in games where i have to repeatedly press a key very fast?
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>>61850176
He meant stuff that require quick multiple presses. It can be a problem since switch is activated midway and tactile bump is felt before it. So it might be taps on a key that is defacto held or released.
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>>61850275
so it all basically boils down to "muh feelans" and no objective measure. Browns have a soft d tent feeling to them but they hardly feel terrible to type with.
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Got an aukey kmg3 for my first mechanical keyboard. Howd I do?
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>>61850323
If you play rhythm games then maybe.If you think mechanical keyboard will make you a better gaymer or typist then you fell for the placebo. With cherry blues double tapping isn't that much of an issue since you can still actuate the switch again before the slider has returned to its original position. People like reds for double tapping since you can hover around the actuation point and quickly move up and down
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>>61850350
what do you mean by soft d tent feeling?? Thinking about grabbing a cherry mx brown ducky one
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>>61850350
>machanical keyboards
>basically boils down to "muh feelans"
Yeah that's literally the whole point.
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>>61843669
So, is anyone planning to get Wooting one?
I'd seriously consider it IF they used black switches or something even stiffer. Red seems too soft for precise analog input, and non-linear blue one just doesn't fit the idea of smooth analog control
Unless their version of blue and red translate to something different
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>>61850415
just spring swap
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>>61850350
any real argument about switches here are subjective claims, overall arguments are always going to be about personal experience, whether they prefer a heavier switch, or prefer a clicky or tactiler/linear switch, it always boils down to how someone feels about it. same way with anything else really, readig reviews "based on personal experience. the only realy "objective argument" here potentially is how they're literally the lightest cherry switch.
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>>61850350
Are you retarded?
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>>61850372
i know a keyboard wont make me a better anything. i also know that typing on membranes make my fingers hurt, and that i could have done a lot better than a strafe as far as spending money on a mech board. dont assume my reasoning for getting a mech keyboard. the most i care about is not using this corsair board anymore because merely looking at it pisses me off.
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>>61850482
>membranes make your fingers hurt
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>>61850430
so why are browns consistently picked on over other switches?
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>>61850350
Are there even any objective measurements of a switch? You could say that Browns are worse then Clears due to the 30g lighter force, but then you go right back to tumblr tier arguments about how light switches don't feel good.
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>>61850503
i have had nothing but bad experiences after extended gaming/typing on those cheap 20 dollar logitechs and the boards available on campus. end up with sore fingers, especially my left thumb and middle fingers, something i dont experience while using my strafe.
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>>61850534
can you guys stop being autistic for just a sec and tell me whether to get a brown or clear switch? clear switches aren't easy to find so I think i will go with brown then swap them with clear in the future if i want
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>>61850526
Because they're the best
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>>61850394
its hard to explain. d tent is a /toy/ term. those kinds of ratchet joints that dont feel snappy or clicky, but rather "bassy" bumps. its ALMOST imperceptible but its there.
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>>61850526
because people prefer other switches to it. I honestly prefer MX Greens myself but I never really liked the tactility of Browns because it doesn't feel as good in my opinion to say Black Alps, on top of that it's just a light switch and I constantly hit the wrong key when typing because I'm used to a heavier switch. I have nothing really against others using browns but it's just not something I would use myself.
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>>61850638
if theres about as many switches per preference, it makes no sense that people shit on browns more often than other switches.
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>>61850608
There is measurable stuff like activation force, force graphs over travel distance (i.e. when tactile bump felt, if there is any, and when switch is activated). But in practice memechanical keyboards are all about how they feel under your fingers, how good they sounds and how they look.

Browns are one of the most popular switches.
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>>61850622
>>61850673

so what switch would be silent but still have a good tactile bump you can feel?

btw coming from mac chiclet keyboard
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>>61850668
What kind of logic is that? Unless you actually think there are the same number of people who like scat as there are who like big breasts
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>>61850701
a brand new, regular rubberdome keyboard
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>>61850701
Matias Quiet click. More tactile then browns, while also much quieter producing about the same level of noise as a rubber dome since they are dampened on both the up and down stroke
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>>61850526
people buy into the marketing that they're good for typing and for gaming
and that reds are only good for gaming, and blues are only good for typing
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>>61850608
here you go
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=9&size=&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off
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>>61850608
Unless you get PCB mounted switches replacing a single switch will require you to desolder the whole entire keyboard.
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>>61850701
clickity: blue, green
no clicki: clear
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So I got this with a bron mx switch, I have a feeling /g/ will hate me for it

I like it so far, the browns are pretty comfy desu

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/k70-lux-rgb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-na
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>>61850707
you're comparing two vastly different things there m8. this is breast size and shape comparison. scat would be membrane.
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>>61850768
no scat would be browns
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>>61850776
>scat would be browns
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>>61850756
I hope you didn't pay more then 100 bucks for that. The biggest problem with corsair keyboard is that they are over priced compared to the competition.
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>>61850728
Not much of a selection..maybe ill just wait it out
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>>61850740
awesome, getting a mech keyboard doesn't seem worth it at this point lmao
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Dutchfag here,

Where the fuck does one get mechanical keyboards from this shithole? I'm mostly looking for topre, but advice on any kind of mech is welcome.
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>>61850826
online
don't buy topre, it's just a shit meme
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>>61850802
and bad software.
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>>61850826
alternate.nl
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>>61850826
>Dutchfag here
t. muhammad
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>>61850826
buy topre, it's the best meme
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>>61850923
here's your (you) tripfag now fuck off
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>>61850701
I'm using MX Browns, I'd want something quieter. While Alps/Matias are interesting, international order might be beyond budget. Romer-G sounds promising, but it's hardly talked about - I would like to hear an opinion of somebody who used them for more than a year.
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>>61850826
>http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
from OP
If you want Topre but there isn't any, get Razer MEcha-MEmbrane. No idea how they compare :^)
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>>61850935
Clears seem like the best alternative but i can only find 60% size which I dont want
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Post custom cable sleeves.

Pic related. It's what I'm going to use for my custom cable.
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>>61850979
see
>>61850728
Just get a full size Ducky and call it a day
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>>61851202
theres literally nothing bigger than 60% for clears right now
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>>61844085
Where did you get these keycaps?
I'm searching for keycaps that are spherical like yours
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>>61851288
Yes there are. Check again
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>>61851293
https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-quartz-keycap-set/
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>>61851315
there are zero ducky keyboards in stock with clear cherry mx switches. i would of already bought it. they have them available to preorder for later this month which i don't want to do
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>>61851315
there are 2 KBParadise tkl keyboards w/ clears that i don't like
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>>61851340
then get the KBP ones
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So the Model M has 2kro. Does this mean I won't be able to input commands with three keys. For example, Alt+Shift+q?
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>>61851331
Thanks, but man, why are keycaps in general so expensive? My keyboard nearly cost that much
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>>61851482
modifiers don't count towards the limit, and the 2kro simply means you can't hold three keys on three different traces at the same time. If you look at the matrix you can see the different lines laid out, but you can hold down as many as you want on that line
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>>61851486
well the keyboard pictured (ZZ96) costs $350 and that doesn't include switches or keycaps. Niche products simply cost more, if you want something cheaper wait for a group buy.
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>>61851503
OK perfect, and the generally recommended model is 1391401? Or is there a superior one
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>>61851537
the older you get the better the build quality
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I got a couple used Dell AT101W's at a thrift store with black alps
am I cool yet guys
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>>61851618
come back when you get a gold badge omni key with complicated blues
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>>61851618
How clean is it?
Do the switches feel like scratchy shit?
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>>61851658
very clean actually, the cable had a little bit of black sticky shit on them, but thats cleaned now. the switches on both feel pretty smooth.
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>>61849506
><- BackSpace
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Is this keyboard good? They say it's cherry red. It's just for typing, just wanted to know if DSI is a good brand.
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>>61852064
>that massive return key on an ansi keyboard`
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>>61850933
oooh mad af

>>61852064
>big ass enter
>1u backspace
objectively terrible
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>>61852343
>literally just an overengineered membrane keyboard
>"""""mechanical""""" switch
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>>61852343
Any good keyboard for left handed people?
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>>61852377
you might understand if you had one
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>>61852385
a 40%
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>>61852385
a separate numpad?
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>>61852377
>Topre
>Membrane
If you want to meme it up at least use the right terms. Its a rubber dome, not a membrane
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>>61852396
I've used an HHKB2 for a couple weeks sometime back in march, didn't feel anything particularly notable about it when typing other than the fact that it made mechfags rage.
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>>61852440
no matter what i use i always go back to it
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>>61852434
every time it's this same reply.
stay mad, toprefag
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>>61852463
I disagree.
I returned my hhkb when I tried it about a year ago.
Alps and my model M feel significantly better imo.
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So there's literally not a tkl mechanical keyboard with clear cherry mx switches to buy anywhere?

Cool
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>>61852947
WASD
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>>61852947
build one yourself lmao
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>>61852947
Yes there is
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>>61852947
KBP and WASD has some. Or if you can wait two weeks you can pre order a ducky
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>>61853058
wasd doesn't have any 87-key models with cherry clear

>>61853062
if i only knew how

>>61853064
please enlighten me, other than the KBP one
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>>61850724
Or... people try different switches and see firsthand that MX brown is the best all-arounder for people who value quietness.

It's hilarious to hear squiddies talk over in game voice, their MX blues snapping like staccato thunder claps, echoing through their room so loudly you can actually hear the green LEDs. MOM SO COOL TAKKATAKKATAKAKA MOM

>>61850430
This is of course true, and the other MX switch types have valid uses, but for most people MX brown is the best compromise of feel, noise and weight. The people saying hurr sandpaper its literally like typing on molasses i can literally feel grains of literal sand in literality are just meming.

>>61852947
Can always build.
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>>61853103
>Can always build.
wouldn't know where to start man
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>>61853132
Handwire, or shell out a fuckton for a TKL PCB.
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>>61853148
>>61853103
>>61853062
whats the best site to get parts?
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>>61853240
Depends on what kind of parts. Aliexpress should have you covered for almost everything, but I don't think I've ever seen a chink tkl pcb
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>>61853298
I dont mind buying more expensive shit. just surprised there are no clear cherry tkl keyboards out there
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>>61853309
The KUL-ES87 comes in clears, as does the WASD CODE, as do the other WASD boards.
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>>61853409
yeah none of those are in stock
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>>61853584
where are you looking?
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>>61853592
mechanicalkeyboards.com & wasd website
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>>61853103
>i can literally feel grains of literal sand in literality are just meming
I had the chance to try MX Brown switches and the tactile feedback was literally lost while typing fast. however when pushing keys slowly the tactile feedback was more akin to the key not running smoothly, like there was dirt inside them, rather than an actual force peak.

I know this is a totally personal opinion, but I had the same tactile experience while slowly turning the wheel of my skates: dirt in the ball bearings.
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>>61844320
I can only get so hard..
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>>61853647
Time to build your own I guess

You can join the /mkg/ telegram group

https://t.me/joinchat/BW-4g0GEghO_0UcDWhOKvA

I've got plenty of experience building keyboards, but giving people extensive advice over 4chan is a pain
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>>61853899
now im seriously debating just ordering the ducky one tkl w/ clear cherry and waiting the 10 days
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>>61854063
Build one yourself anon, it's fun. Fun!
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>>61854134
it seems like such a process between ordering all the correct parts and soldering all the switches. No doubt it would probably be fun but its time consuming. The biggest thing holding me back is im still not 100% sure what switch i even like so i dont want to commit money AND time to something idk if i will even like.
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Sup /mkg/, I have a rosewill rk9000 I bought 3 years ago. The mini usb port on it has started to fail on it (I'm not rough with it or anything) causing disconnects when I'm typing, playing games, or just whenever I move it a bit. The issue is only getting worse. Apparently it's a common as hell issue with this keyboard due to bad soldering on the port. I don't know anything about soldering so I can't judge it for myself, but I figured it would be a lot easier and cheaper to just replace the port on it rather than buying a new keyboard. How hard is it to solder a new port onto it? Is it easy enough for a beginner?
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>>61853103
>best all-arounder for people who value quietness
that would be blacks

or TOPRE TYPE S
FUCKING STEP UP
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>>61854243
Get a switch tester from amazon, then return it.
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>>61853103
>MX brown is the best all-arounder for people who value quietness.

More like fucking Matias quiet switches. MX Brown a shit and appropriately colored.
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I’m in too deep
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>>61854615
>He actually bought that green alps turd
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>>61854626
It is a fucking steal though

$30, great layout, conversion is simple, and the caps are unlike anything you can get nowadays let alone for $30 on a functioning keyboard

The switches are quite good linears as well, IDK what you’re talking about
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>>61854615
>too deep
Not deep enough*
What switches do all those have?
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>>61854269
If you have reasonable equipment (like not a $5 ratshack iron that can't heat up a ground pin) soldering is stupidly easy. Apply flux, make metal parts hot and then feed them solder. Solder will flow right on to the parts if they're hot enough. It's ready to fuck and wants all up on that shit.
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>>61854652
Filco has MX Silver with Gateron Clear springs (~30g)
Keypad has stock MX blacks
Black 60% has MX Clears with some spring swap, I think they’re close to stock weight
AMJ40 has Kailh Bronze
Silver 60% has MX Silent with ~90g springs and a ~120g spring for the space bar
IBM board has old‐style green ALPS
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What do you guys think of the Poker 3 RGB, was thinking about switching to the blue switch one from my Cherry MX Board 3 with reds
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>>61854723
>RGBT
>>>/v/
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>>61854615
are those filco doubleshots in JIS?
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>>61854756
I mean the rgb one is the same price as the non-rgb one for me. I guess what I'm asking is if the poker 3 is a good keyboard, rgb or not
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>>61854134
Can confirm, soldering is pretty fun.
Desoldering though, not so much.
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>>61854615
>>61854702

let me buy that black keyboard with mx clears anon, ill pay stock
>tfw no tkl mx clear keyboards anywhere
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>>61854794
Just don't fuck up... Ever...
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>>61854763
Yeah

>>61854824
It was extremely expensive, also note the odd layout
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>>61854928
If the PCB you're using has a proper solder mask, it's pretty hard to royally fuck up.
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https://www.banggood.com/108-keys-PBT-White-Grey-PBT-Translucidus-Backlit-Double-shot-Retro-Keycap-p-1142393.html?rmmds=category

Anyone here got experience with this set in particular?
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>>61854573
And in which brick and mortar store might one buy Matias quiets?
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>>61854723
>>61854790
The RGB version is made by a different company and has worse build quality.
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>>61855054
Yodabashi Kamera in Akiba has some.
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>>61855100
They seem to both be from vortex?
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>>61855054
I know my state has one, but no one cares for it in tennessee
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>>61855157
Vortex isn't the OEM. Its done by two different companies
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>>61855054
NCIX and Memory Express.
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>>61855180
So will the rgb version be an improvement from the cherry mx board, because I've been looking for a 60% keyboard with back lighting (hopefully rgb) to replace my current keyboard
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>>61855054
Microcenter carries anything as long as you request it. Some reddit cucks got the one in my area to carry topre keyboards
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>>61850155
They feel like some spilled sand on your keyboard
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>>61855219
Get the non rgb one since its better built
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>>61854656
What pricepoint for entry level soldering irons would you consider decent? Like I said I have no experience so I don't own one. There are some starter kits on amazon for around 15-20 with good reviews but I don't know if that's still cheapo tier.
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>>61855313
You don't even have to desolder the port, all you have to do is fix the solder joints. There's plenty of good reasons to get a nice soldering iron, but for something like that literally any piece of metal that gets hot will work.
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>>61850826
>says "Where the fuck does one get mechanical keyboards from this shithole?"
>Wants rubber dome
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>>61850826
Candykeys.com (located in Germany so no import duties within the EU) if Alternate's and Azerty's selections don't satisfy.

Or, you know, your chinkshit site of choice.
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>>61853103
Switch preference is totally subjective bullshit. You think that you like browns because they are "the best all-rounder", but in reality you just happened to like them and now trying to invent justifications for that.

Like people who don't like browns often say that browns are shit at everything and are the worst switch.

This shit literally doesn't matter at all. I thought I'd like browns before getting my first mech. Upon actually trying different keyboards in real life, I discovered that I dislike tactile feedback in all cherry-like switches, and out of them I like linears the most. It's not because they are good for gaming or fastest in general, I just happened to like using them more. Tactile feedback just annoys me and gets in the way.

So use whatever you like, just don't pretend there are objective reasons for it.
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>>61850826
See if mykeyboard.eu has anything you like. I bought my race 3 there.
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how do I get out of the nightmare that is razershit? this gamer green is an eyesore
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>>61855664
Depends on what board you got.
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pok3r i got a while ago AMA
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>>61855860
How is it?
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>>61853899
You should write up a pastebin. Something that could be included in the OP pasta, and if questions arise updated or FAQ added.

It didn't even occur to me to build my own - I was looking for w/e is widely available just to toy myself, my current keyboard works alright - but now it seems like it would be an interesting DIY project.
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>>61856166
I'll think about it, but I feel like given all the options one has when it comes to building a keyboard, and all the questions that might arise, a simple pastebin can't hold a candle to person-to-person advice.

Well, maybe if it's written and explained well. Last time I wrote a guide to do something was nearly two years ago and on a completely different subject, but I'll think about it.
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>>61855313
Yihua 908 is pretty great for how cheap it is. Can come in handy for any future projects as well.
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give me ONE reason not to buy a varmilo va69m with mx blues
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>>61856379
It's not a Filco
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>>61856379
You'll get cancer and die.
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>>61843704
Low resistance but distinct feedback to let you know you successfully pressed each key.
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bought ducky one tkl non backlit for $59, good buy or bad buy?
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>>61856445
Pretty good, Ducky boards are nice.
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>>61852064
Is that inverted? Wtf?
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>>61856472
glad to hear since ducky is one those chink clone.
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>>61856250
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>>61843725
im about to cop these caps on massdrop

what board do you have em on?
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Any Miami Bros here?
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>>61856250
Thanks, that would be nice. The problem with chats and threads is that conversations are lost in time.
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>>61850363
>Aukey kmg3
>$65
>Outemu Switches
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>>61856502
I've seen this approach in some A4Tech Bloody keyboard. Seems like a good idea: main keys are closer to the mouse pad, numpad is still available - and might actually become useful in games, 17 keys close to WASD.
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>>61856701
majestouch cherry oem pattern
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>>61856379
Short left shift. Which you should press btw.
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>>61845491
one of the datamancer abominations.

Or, if it doesn't have to be mechanical, this:
https://store.artlebedev.com/electronics/devices/optimus-popularis/
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>>61854615
What keycaps are on the black one with MX Clears? The shape and colour combination are giving me an erection.
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>>61855313
I've used a weller wp25 for years for all my soldering needs. Works fine for lead based solder. I think I paid 20-30 leafbucks.
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>>61845491
hhkb professional hg japan

Good luck

>>61857141
Penumbra

https://originative.co/products/sa-penumbra

If you want to know why the price is rape, to make a very long story medium‐length, the manufacturer gave exclusive rights to the guy who ““““designed”””” this set (literally another guy thought of the idea of applying Solarized to this keycap profile and then said go for it) and he just sat on the IP for two or three years after the first sale (because he is a retard who takes literal years to ship) while the mechanical keyboard community blew up and the price jumped several hundred percent

He then permitted Originative (who price gouges) to do a sale but instead of doing a group buy and interest check he made pointless and irritating but minor changes and bought 500 sets (that, at least, is understandable since the lead time for these is almost a year) and slapped a fucking egregious price on it
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>>61857084
Waifu goes on every key.
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>>61854626
What's wrong with it? I was thinking of buying it myself.
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>>61854615
How did you make the green alps one usable on a modern pc? Do you just need to buy an adapter?
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>>61857580
You can buy an adapter (which I did) which is non‐invasive and easy and lets you keep the long, thick cord it comes with or you can do a mod inside the case with a Teensy which has the advantage of not requiring you to order an expensive converter from Japan for like $60
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Do modern magnetic switches exist?

Is there interchangeability between switch families for PCB? Or is it down to Cherry MX ↔ its clones, Alps ↔ Matias, etc?
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>>61856701
If only there was some kind of brand writen on it
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>>61857807
Some people design their PCBs so either Alps or MX can be used.
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>>61857807
Ace Pad Tech on alibaba makes modern hall effect keyboards. QC is reportedly not fantastic though.
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>>61857684
What adapter did you buy?
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>>61857950
geekhack DOT org/index.php?topic=54706.0

You just PM him and order it, he ships fairly quickly

He even has a website for programming so you don’t have to fuck around with TMK yourself unless you want macros
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>>61845491
Post pics when you do.
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>>61857950
>>61857995
Sorry, I meant email not PM

it’s been a while

See /index.php?topic=72052.0
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>>61858025
Thanks man
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What could it be?
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>>61858512
Oh fugg :-DDD
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>>61858585
Fuck you guys were right these chink caps are thin as fuck
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Looking at stores online I haven't been able to find a keyboard that completely satisfies me. I though I could do like with my current PC and assemble it myself. How much would it cost me to build my own keyboard? Keep in mind every time I have to buy from China (or the US) I would have to pay 22% VAT on the grand total of product+shipping of import fees.
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Is it good?
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>>61858839
>topre
As good as rubber domes get
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>>61858654
Depends on what you want. Something like a GH60 can be built for ~70€
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>>61858585
Fug, building project coming up!
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>>61858907
Still waiting on the aluminum case, plate, and Gateron browns. Hopefully those come in early next week
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I'd like a 10 keyless and I'm thinking of getting a Vortex Race 3

I understand that the keyboard isn't great for custom caps because of the 1.5 esc/delete keys, but apart from that issue is there anything wrong with it? The caps it come with look fine to me
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>>61858927
for some reason floating keys turn me off.
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>>61859133
I actually really like low profile aesthetic.I get why some people wouldn't though.
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>>61838242
>>61843725
>Majestouch naught
Can only find Majestouch 2
>Cherry OEM
It's an OEM profile keyboard with cherry (mx) switches?
>Tai Hao PBT doubleshot lavender
These are the grey and black keycaps together right?
Couldn't find on Tai Hao site but found this.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tai-hao-purple-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set?mode=guest_open
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I'm looking to buy my first mechanical keyboard. I'm going with brown switches because I want some tactile feedback but can't afford to wake everyone in the house up.

What do you guys think about the Ducky One TKL for $99? Cherry MX Brown

Or is that too expensive / too much of a risk for a first time user
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>>61859263
Filco keyboards are made by costar so if you don't find the one you want you can always buy a rebranded one and get the same build quality
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Costar
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>>61859516
>Browns
Nice b8 m8, and no 80-100 bucks is the price for a mid range keyboard.
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>>61859263
Correct!
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>>61859530
>browns apparently suck

What do you suggest? I'd like blue (I type, don't game) but blues are apparently the loudest
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>>61859516
Cherry MX browns are the worst MX switch. Get MX clears or Gateron browns
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>>61859544
just get o rings on your old keyboard
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>>61859544
Switches don't matter for gaming, reds and browns are just marketed as gaming switches. I use Gateron blues and use them for gaming. Also how loud do you think blues are? They aren't going to wake anyone up unless they're sleeping right next to you.
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>>61859547
>>61859580
>>61859594

I don't know how loud blues are, I only read that they're generally the loudest. If I can use o-rings I'll just get the E-Element Z-88 for $45 on Amazon and put o rings on it
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Slightly off topic, but can anyone recommend a game/program for learning how to 10 finger type correctly?
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>>61859613
O-rings don't stop the clicking they only help with bottoming out, so they don't really do anything for blue switches.

>>61859633
keybr
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>>61859648
>keybr
Looks good, thanks
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>>61859648
I just read about 50 amazon reviews of people saying the sound of their blue switches was greatly reduced by using .4mm o rings. Maybe they're all lying
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>>61858895
That price seems reasonable.

What I was looking for is something like the Varmilo VA109M. I'll tell you more: I'd love to buy that keyboard. However buying that from caps-unlocked would cost me a small fortune: 116£ of keyboard plus 20£ shipping, 136£ equals to 148€. Then I'd have to pay 22%VAT and 5.5€ custom fee since it ships from China. In the end that keyboard would cost me 186€, which is way too much for me even though that keyboard ticks all the boxes, and I'm not even considering the fact it would take more a month or more to arrive at my doorstep.
I thought that by buying the parts separately I could keep costs down to the point I could afford something that isn't sold by Amazon in the gamer stuff section.
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>>61859580
When getting o-rings was a good idea? (Especially on switches designed to click)

What would you want o-rings for? To get some of that wonderful rubber dome feel back? Just learn to type without bottoming-out. Browns aren't exhausting to press and they still offer that little bump that helps you learn how to type without mashing the key to the bottom.
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>>61859633
Virtual keyboard (shows keypresses) or an image of your layout (takes least space)
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>>61859683
Like I said it only helps with bottoming out which if you do anyway it's going to happen on all switches and they're all going to be loud. You can't silence the click of a blue switch with o-rings,they only help with bottoming out.
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>>61858585
Is this the halo build?
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What's the most silent cherry and non-cherry switch?
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>>61859704
What's the point when the are too light and you bottom out anyway. Also o rings don't affect the clicky noise or actuation mechanism at all. They just dampen the down stoke.
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>>61859683
Don't listen to that retard. The sound of bottoming out is louder then the actuating mechanism of the switch. O rings most definitely make a difference
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>>61859686
You know that keyboard is literally a rebranded Ducky
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>>61859828
Do you think .4mm o rings on a blue switch will affect the feel of the "click"? If I can feel the click like normal but not bottom out as loudly that'd be great
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>>61859783
A dampened rubber dome that's been used for at least a year
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>>61859810
Wouldn't "heavier" switch cause you to push through the tactile bump with greater force and bottom out easier?
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>>61859758
Yup!
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>>61859876
O rings don't affect the click at all. Why would you think a piece of rubber that goes on a keycap will some how change the internal mechanisms of the switch?
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>>61859686
although it is possible to build a keyboard for cheap, usually costs come out to be about the same as just buying a keyboard outright if not more. especially because the cheapest parts usually come from China and you can't buy from there. in addition, cheap builds usually have the 60percent form factor like the GH60 mentioned by >>61858654 because there's a huge variety of parts for 60percent keyboards. that said,

i don't think you can find a PCB for 105key keyboard so you would probably have to handwire or make your own PCB.

you will need a plate cut from somewhere, and probably the case done that way as well.

gateron switches are cheap but if you're the italian guy, you'll be looking at really expensive keycaps (unless you're fine with blanks or the wrong legends)
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>>61859887
no
t. mx super clears
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>>61859895
>Why would you think that

Because I'm new to mechs and don't fully understand the mechanism yet, since I've never even handled one much less owned.
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>>61859686
if you have the money you could build your self a really nice custom keyboard
Here is a full size PCB
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/78-nerd-108-pcb-ver15.html
and here is a case
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/84-acrylic-housing-for-nerd-108.html
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>>61859912
Just go to microcenter and type on the different keyboards, they even carry topre. Or you can get a switch tester from amazon, then return it. You have no excuses
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>>61859932
i thought people weren't ordering from GON anymore
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>>61859845
>You know that keyboard is literally a rebranded Ducky
No. What does this imply?

>>61859906
>but if you're the italian guy, you'll be looking at really expensive keycaps
Yep, that's me (damn I'm so easily spottable). I was ready to give up and buy the MasterKeys Pro M, but having tried brown switches really fucked my plans royally. As you can see I'm still looking for a solution, and assembling my own keyboard just evaporated from the list. At this point I'll probably bite the bullet for the time it takes to raise the money for something like that Varmilo.
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Alt right fags get in here
>>61860036
>>61860036
>>61860036
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>>61859543
>>61859517
What is meant with naught? Not on deskthority either. Guess it's just a Majestouch 2.
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>>61860046
I hope you aren't trolling. Did you try googling the word naught
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Seeking a mechanical keyboard to satisfy my preferences has proven difficult.

Full size 104 key
Cherry MX Red switches
Classic key markings (numbers on the bottom, shifted symbols on the top)
Numpad with numbers and arithmetic symbols only, no redundant Home/End/PgUp etc.

The most suitable is the custom layout I chose at wasdkeyboards.com (pic related)
I understand that the cursor movement markings on the numpad are traditional, but perhaps those 10 keys could be replaced with custom caps?

The price ($320 AUD) seems extravagant however, might there be a cheaper alternative?

I would be grateful for your advice or a hint to point me in the right direction.
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>>61860066
I just did and still don't get it.
>nothing
>lost
>ruined
>obsolete
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>>61860021
Why not get a normal ISO keyboard then get Italian keycaps from Maxkey?
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>>61860121
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>>61860162
Ok so not the two
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>>61859887
Depends on the spring's design. A weighting at a specific position in the travel doesn't tell you everything about the spring's compression characteristics throughout its entire travel.
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>>61860086
lol with that price point you can get a custom korean keyboard that has way better build quality. since you're an aussie you're choices are very limited. You could by a cheap keyboard, then replace the keycaps with something like
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/top-printed-dsa-pbt-keycap-for-mechanical-keyboard-108-keys-iso-keys-full-set-dolch-keycaps/32821840829.html
or
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-product-150-keys-DSA-PBT-Perfect-Arc-Spherical-Keycap-Dye-Sublimated-Cherry-MX-Switch-Keycaps/32812093722.html




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