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if you want help:
>Assemble parts list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>State the budget for your build (and country if not USA)
>List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate
>Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs?
How to assemble a PC, select components & more (outdated)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC

CPUs:
No i5 unless discounted
>G4560 - poverty-tier builds
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (<$500)
>R5 1400 - If you need multithreading
>R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage
>R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use, not for just gaming

GPUs:
Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser
>VEGA
>Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games
>GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both
>RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz
>RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games
>GTX 1070 or Vega 56 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high
>GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p
>GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games

RAM:
>Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM
>Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM, 3200 MHz is ideal

General:
ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS!
Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later
NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor
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Anyone used the Seasonic Focus PSU?
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>>62415240
It's a recently released line so doubtful, but Seasonic is KNOWN for fantastic PSU's
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>>62415240
Their new line, meant to replace the G/S12G.
It's gotten good reviews.
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>G4560 - poverty-tier builds
Threadly reminder that you can just buy a used Dell Optiplex 7010 with an i5 3570 for literally the same price as a G4560 and still get better performance in video games when you add a GPU.
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Can anyone help me with a build? I am looking for a ryzen build, budget of about $1000
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>>62415352
but then you have to factor in the costs of a new PSU and graphics card
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>>62415378
Which you don't have to do if you're building a new system with a G4560? Someone who's actually on a poverty tier budget doesn't spend $80-100 on just a CPU
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>>62415352
Used
30-day warranty
Old platform
Thanks for posting. Again.
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>>62415012
How fucked am I.
My case wont close with my cooler. I bought a hyper cooler evo for a fractal design mid tower. But the copper ends wont let the case close.
Should I do something desperate like drill holes in the case for the copper tips to go through, or cut the copper tips off.
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>>62415426
I would grind down the copper bits. Probably not a big deal if it it's not too much.
Pretty surprised a popular cooler can't fit in a mainstream, common case like that.
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>>62415356
R5 1600 - $200
b350 mobo - $75-100 (these and psus commonly have rebates, shop around and maybe wait if no deal is currently going on)
250GB m.2 SSD - $100
Case -$50-100
PSU - $75 (550-750W, again due to constant recurring rebate deals, you can often get nice big PSUs for the same price as their smaller iterations, shop around or wait for deals)
3200mHz RAM - $150 (pick the one you like, just ask here first before you order)
$150 - GTX1050 ti

Now the rest you can spend or save as you please
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>>62415240

got one for my new build, 650W

seems good, what else can i really say its been a week

the box is really nice and it has nice bags for the cords
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HI GUYS

IS 8700k GOING TO BE GOOD BASED ON LEAKS?
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>>62415506
It will probably be something like a 7700K with two more cores, more or less.
Good will depend on price.
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>>62415506
NO
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>>62415422
They're refurbished enterprise machines you idiot, I still haven't seen a single argument for why buying used is supposed to be problem when you spend a lot less money to get better performance. It being an old platform is also irrelevant since the upgrade path for buying the G4560 is shit and will also be an old platform as soon as Coffee Lake is released. The only argument for buying the G4560 is the iGPU, if you're going to add a GPU then you get the 1200.

The only valid argument is the 30 day warranty but even if it fails you're only out $100 bucks. And again, there's no logical reason for why the hardware would randomly fail at any higher rate than buying new components unless you're buying used mining equipment or something, hardware lasts a really long time if you don't treat it like a retard.
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>>62415506
Not unless they keep the price the same, but the current rumor is that they jacked it up to a ridiculous level.
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>>62415471
Wouldn't the R5 1400 / GTX1060 3GB be a better deal?
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>>62415458
Id apparently have to completely cut them off.
The case can only use coolers of 148mm, the evo is 149mm without the copper tips, 158mm with.
I got the evo for $18 and I have the stock cooler, so Im not completely against experimenting.
I just have the side panel laying against the case right now.
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>>62415668
Maybe you can return the cooler?
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>>62415537
>>62415581
WHAT PRICE WOULD YOU CONSIDER GOOD?
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>>62415684
Unlikely :_;
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>>62415754
rib in beace
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>>62415579
>They're refurbished enterprise machines you idiot
Do you know what "refurbished" means? Used.
>you spend a lot less money to get better performance
The Ivy Bridge i5 has better performance than a G4560, but not by that much. Akin to buying an R3 1200.
>It being an old platform is also irrelevant
I'd rather have the option for a 7700 over a 3770.
>The only argument for buying the G4560 is the iGPU
Pretty sure the refurbished Dell should have an IGP as well.
>but even if it fails you're only out $100 bucks
And the hassle of getting yet another one, transferring data (unless it was lost entirely), etc. Not everyone has the time and patience to tinker.

But you're ultimately making an unnecessarily bad argument. There are plenty of prebuilt machines that are new that can be found at great prices, with warranties, new platforms, everything. People don't like them here, I've discovered. The simple reason being: people want to put it together themselves.
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>>62415725
It's impossible to say, since we don't know the performance.
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>>62415754
you are retarded and dont cut off the copper tips.
If you side panel doesnt close, just leave the side panel slightly on. Airflow is notthat important as long as you have intake and exhaust fans around your cpu cooler.

but you wont listen to me because you have literal autism
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>>62415426
>http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2226658/cut-hyper-212-evo-work.html
Cant cut the copper tips. So now Im debating if I should drill into the case, or switch back to stock. Buy a new cooler or buy a new case.
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>>62415852
why would you even buy a g4560 for more than $70? I can buy a 1200 for $99 and spend the same amount of money that you would on a b350 is you bought a b250 for intel
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>>62415979
Wow thanks for the useless post.
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>>62416007
not useless you faggit. You dont cut off the tips you fucking jew. just leave the side panel not fully closed
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did i fuck up buying an mATX board instead of an ATX board
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>>62415506
Worse single threaded than 7700k.
Worse multi threaded than 1600.
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>>62416114
What do you think
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1070 Ti was "rumored" to be released. Will the 1060 have its turn?
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>>62416003
Taking into account price inflation, you'd be looking at a G4600, at least in the US.
Price difference between that and an R3 1200 is $20 (85-105)
Is it worth it? You aren't doing workstation tasks on an R3, and general usage is a wash. For gaming, the difference isn't that big. It's a call the buyer needs to make.
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>>62416158
for gaming, I saw benchmarks that show same avg fps but 1200 has much better minimums fps.
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>>62416158
I bought a r5 1400 for $130 so I dont care, im just curious as to the point of an expensive pentium.
I remember g4560 selling for under $60 3 months ago. that seemed like a good deal for a 3.6 ghz cpu+mobo combo under $100
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>>62416226
Yes, as the price has climbed the G4560 is increasingly a bad deal. You'd be looking at a G4600.
The problem is that it starts jumping too close to the R3 to have a well defined place. But if you don't have it, the cheapest CPU you end up recommending is $100, which is unacceptable for many people. When your budget is so small, even meager increases in price can be a problem.
You could recommend Bristol Ridge, and for basic tasks it's okay. But their iGPU is still not that great, and pairing them with a dGPU has pretty bad results, and on this board most people want to game, even on a budget.
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>>62415983
So if I skip the top and bottom guides near the screws, I might be able to get it to snap on the front of the case and screw on to the back of the case for it to """close"""
Will this damage the heat pipes being under this kind of pressure.
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>>62416226
I think the G4560 was a fluke honestly. I've seen Celerons sell for the same price.
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>>62416342
or the mobo under it as well is a concern
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>>62416355
what do you mean? I think it was an excellent cpu for that microcenter combo for $100
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>>62416369
you are retarded fuck off
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>>62416355
The G4560 was intended to prevent cheap Excavator CPUs and APUs from gaining marketshare. Intel didn't mind cannibalizing their own i3 line if it meant shutting AMD out of the market.
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>>62416435
well looks like intel has fucked them selves then if they cost $80 now
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>>62415012
Is there a guide to dismantle a computer?
I bought a custom PC from a friend and he built it for me, but I'd like to learn how to dismantle it for maintenance and replacement of parts.
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How can I tell if a tower has a internal DVD drive slot on PCPartPicker?

Will the 1060 6GB go down in price anytime soon? It's nearly $150 more than the 1050 TI.
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>>62416457
The prices rise due to demand. Because people are willing to pay the price.
It's not entirely analogous, and AMD isn't entirely happy with this state of affairs, but running out of GPUs due to the mining craze isn't entirely against AMD's interest. After all, they're selling cards.
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>>62416487
Look at any building guide, and you'll get a general idea how to work backwards.
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>>62416489
Go to thw store pages and look there
GPU prices don't look luke they willnfall for a while yet
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>>62416138
im fucking scared that the RAM will be able to fit next to my wraith cooler

it looks extremely close
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>>62416607
What board?
mATX is only a bit smaller than ATX
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>>62416409
thanks for the useful post
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>>62416494
The problem is when the demand stops the crash will be against their interest. Nobody except bitcoin investors win in the long run.
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>>62416635
i was watching this build vid before starting myself

msi b350m gaming pro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HORoL4_l2ww&t=3m10s

did he fuck up placing the cooler? it looks like he can only fit one ram on there

maybe im just paranoid
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How fucked is Intel? They seem to be getting BTFO by AMD left and right lately.
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>>62416114
mATX is just shorter ATX.
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>>62416688
no you are fine. ALL RAM WILL fit with any stock cooler. If you have a different cooler, then you should check ram clearances.
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Just ordered the components for my first build ever, they should start arriving next week.

What the fuck do I do until then? Every time I use my current computer I feel like I want to throw it out of the window.
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>>62416688
Definitely close, but it should fit.
Flip the cooler if that doesn't work.
>>62416700
They still have a giant market share and they are experts at running a supply chain.
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>>62416700
the 8700k will literally take a shit on AMDs ASS
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>>62416720
>>62416758
Are you guys sure?
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>>62416772
If you have $300 which is way too much
Zen 2 is more promising
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buy intel now or wait? I've had bad experiences with AMD and not sure if I want to commit to Ryzen.
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>>62416792
If it doesn't work just take it back
99% sure that it was tested with stock cooler beforehand.
>>62416804
Don't go intel unless you want maximum 1080p gaming performance and want to delid
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>>62416487
Just grab a screwdriver (a phillips head, preferably with a magnetic head), follow the basic rules of working on a rig, use some common sense and don't be a brainlet.
Here are the simple rules:
1) Always release the static from your body before touching anything sensitive. Just touch anything made of metal, even your case, and don't work on a carpet.
2) If it won't go in or won't come out, don't force it, you're probably doing something wrong.
3) Cable management is important, Don't let your cables get in the way of your fans.
4) When bolting something on that uses multiple screws, either start with the center screw (if there is one) or just start at whichever screw and then do the one at the exact opposite end. Always work diagonally, in other words.

Everything else is fairly simple. All the cables only go into one their proper socket easily and they only go in one way. The different screws might confuse you, just memorize where they all go.
Don't be afraid, opening your case is as simple as taking out the screws on the back of the side panel. You can clean it with a paintbrush, a bike pump or compressed air. Taking out the graphics cards is as simple as taking out the screw and PCI-E cables and pulling it out.

If you feel like you need any more help, just look at one of the THOUSANDS of build guides on youtube.
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>>62416804
Depends on what you want to do.
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>>62416720
>>62416758
would it maybe help turning the cooler around so the little "AMD" flap on the side of the cooler is facing the other way?

i hope it fits
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>>62416850
Put the RAM in first and try it out that way and flip it if that gets in the way
I am sure it will work either way no matter what
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>>62416829
>Just grab a screwdriver (a phillips head, preferably with a magnetic head)

any specific size?

>>62416877
alright, i just hope i wont mess up the paste, i dont have the alchohol nor new paste to apply

is the space bigger there on ATX boards? or is it only length

i had absolutely zero intention of using another GPU or anything, so i figured i might aswell save some money and go with a cheap small one, not sure if i fucked up now if shit wont fit
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>>62416915
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>>62416915
>>62416915
what graphics crad will you use?
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https://www.amazon.com/Custom-i7-7700K-Windows-Desktop-Computer/dp/B01IA0M94G/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

Is this a scam guys? I smell a scam. Way too cheap.
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>>62417003
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jZJkcf/asus-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-dual-video-card-dual-gtx1060-o6g
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>>62417007
What a horrible value. For that money you can get 1080 Ti build.
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>>62416700
They aren't getting BTFO though. They just need to redo their pricing with the new Coffee Lake. Intel is still a perfectly valid choice even now. AMD just finally manage to catch up (somewhat) in terms of performance and STILL has to rely on things like aggrssive pricings, "muh cores", offering unlocked CPUs and hinting at better upgradability.
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>>62417053
That's a 1080Ti build though
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>>62416984
so the space between a CPU/CPU cooler on an ATX should be as crammed as it on an mATX
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>>62417065
It's 1080 or just Amazon opening the link wrong.
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>>62417065
>NVIDIA GTX 1080 8GB
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1600x
1060 3gb
32gb 2400
500SSD

Yeeeeeee. Will post speccy whenever all shit drivers installed. Highly aware 1060 3gb is a huge bottleneck but was way below MSRP at the time and is now currently 280+ at the same site. It's temp til this gpu shitstorm blows over. Everything was was bought at discount including a 1600x and Asrock ab350 gaming k4 $60 off combo.

How did you ever live without a solid state drive, anons?
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>>62416804
If you're the kind of brainlet that kept bending the PGA pins, or you let your Athlon 64 run with bad cooling till it melted through the damn board, you belong with Intel and that will never change.
If you just bought Faildozer and was disappointed that it never got gud, don't worry Ryzen isn't like that.

>>62416915
Just make sure it's a Phillips. Maybe also get some plyers.
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>>62417078
>>62417090
sorry I linked i wrong
This is the 1080Ti build
I think it's cheap because their PSU is garbage (which they don't list in specs, it's 500watts) + the GPU is just a 1080Ti, not Strix or whatever
Should I pull the trigger? building one from scratch nearly costs me the same, but I feel like there's a scam
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>>62415625
> less than 4gb VRAM

you WILL regret that
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>>62417137
https://www.amazon.com/Custom-i7-7700K-Windows-Desktop-Computer/dp/B0718Y7MK5/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8&th=1
I chimped out again :^)
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>>62417094
most of them are called "bacho" or "stanely" the brands
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>>62417159
>32 GB DDR4 2400
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>>62417211
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLg1YwH0QOA&
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>>62415426
Don't do this:
>>62415458
>>62415668

>>62415426
Best options:
Sell the cooler and buy a smaller one that can fit in your case.
Worst option:
Get thin pieces of wood, paint them black, and then screw or glue them to the metal rim of the case. Then lightly glue the metal side on using a weak glue; like hot glue.
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>>62417007
>CUK PC
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>>62417137
You should be able to build a rig like that for cheaper and even get a XB271HU for couple hundred more.

16gb RAM will do just fine.
NVME SSD costs extra for nothing compared to normal SSD or SATA M.2
Low end liquid cooler for housefire.
No PSU info and it's low wattage for such high end rig.
Ugly ass gaymer case.
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>>62417151
3GB isn't future proof sure, but it should do fine on most games at 1080p and below resolutions, and right now is not the time to buy a "future proof" card, what with graphics card prices being where they are, with Volta right around the corner (and the slim possibility that the mythical primitive shader drivers the AMD unpaid shills keep talking about somehow make Vega git gud).
Facy is the 6GB is not good value at all above 300$ and the 1050ti is 30% more expensive than the 1050 with barely a 15% performance difference. And of course AMD cards are shit out of wack right now. A Zotac 1060 3GB for 200 is exactly what the doctor ordered for the average poorfag right now.
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Sorry if not the right thread for it but what's a good middle of the range laptop brand, something around $1k and can play low performance games and general internet use, already of a fairly beast pc and looking for something to bring to uni
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>>62417260
I was going to build a similar rig, but it's pretty much just as expensive as this pre-built one (I don't live in the US) GPU's are too expensive right now, I'm really conflicted
also
>low end cpu cooler
how is corsair hydro 100v2 shit?
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do I wait the month to get the i5-8600k or stay with the i5-7600k I just bought today
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>>62417198
It doesn't matter the brand. Phillips is not the brand, it's the type of head. If it looks like this https://www.amazon.com/Roadpro-RPS1020-Phillips-Screwdriver-Magnetic/dp/B007ISYR6K/ref=sr_1_5?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1505347970&sr=1-5&keywords=phillips+head+screwdriver it'll be fine.
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>>62417409
Did you get the 7600k for a deal or regular price
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>>62417356
Maybe it's just Amazon's shit web design but info said H60 and I read wrong.
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>>62417409
Return it and kill yourself
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>>62417416
normal price
>>62417422
(You) too
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>>62417415
ph1 or ph2?
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>>62417236
I generally research things I dont know about before I act. Cutting the pipes is definitely out of the question.
>http://www.anandtech.com/show/5736/fractal-design-core-1000-how-little-is-too-little/3
>Finally, that low heatsink clearance did rear its ugly head when I went to close up. Our Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo is by no means an extravagant cooler or even one of the largest ones on the market, but its 159mm height caused the tops of the heatpipes to press against the side panel, bowing it outward a little
I was reading this post when I thought forcing the case closed, since the fractal 1000 and 1100 (one I have) are virtually the same. But when I started pressing it closed it bows a lot more than in their pictures. Which is really weird because the width is the same and so is the cooler clearance.
>pic related is theirs installed
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>>62417417
actually you're right
but that isn't showing on the info for me I had to dig it up from the web
dropped, gonna go back to building
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should i sell my vega 64 stupidly high and get a 56?
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>>62417409
Just throw 250 dollars into a fire instead. Same result.

>>62417457
I use ph2 but either or should work,
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>>62417504
Fucking go for it.
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Hey can someone give me some tips on something I’m buying for my first computer (like if there is a cheaper processor that will do Essentially the same thing as a more expensive one) I’ve done my research and this is my current build

Case:nzxt s340 elite
PSU: evga 500w bronze
RAM: 8g of ddr4(2sticks)
GPU: 1080ti (not sure if I should get a blower style or not)
CPU: Intel 7700k
MOBO: Asia dog Maximus 9

All I want to be able to do is hangout in a discord with some friends and play some games on it, I might do some light video and sound editing and I want to know if I went overkill with it
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>>62417504
Sell it and get a 1080 or 1080ti.
Vega 56 is stupidly overpriced.
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>>62417534
alright thanks man appreciate it
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>>62417556
Bait
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>>62417556
No need for the 1080ti the 7700k has powerful integrated graphics.
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>>62417556
Fuck's sake with that sort of build you might as well get a better PSU than a 500w bronze piece of crap. Don't expect to get any sort of good overclocking from that thing (and overclocking is the whole point of the K series). 80+ Bronze means it will only actually output 425 at peak load, so with that 1080ti and 7700k you're right on the edge, which isn't recommended. And have you even picked a CPU heatshink? The K doesn't come with any.

And if all you're doing is "discord and some games and video editing" and you don't even have a 144hz monitor, yes it's MASSIVE overkill and should be replaced with a 1070 and a Ryzen 5. Oh and definitely throw in 16GB of memory instead.
Have you considered storage?
Also use PC Part Picker.
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For anybody wondering the wraith stealth is a lot louder than the wraith spire. Would not reccomend it if you don't need to use it.
On an unrelated not shoutout to JETech's promo emails for a bunch of random free shit on Amazon
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>>62417556
What games? For a 1080ti you better be doing 1440p@144hz monitor or 2160p@60hz.
If you have 1080p@144hz or 1440p@60hz get a 1070.
Also get a more powerful PSU and 16GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM
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>>62417670
Intel's integrated graphics are so weak it's a joke in the industry. It's only good for basic window stuff. It can't handle gaming.
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>>62417670
weak bait
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I want to build a cute AM4 ITX system as a router/light server, what's a decent board? I want to wait on the CPU until the raven ridge APUs come out but I might use a shitty Bristol Ridge until then.
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>>62417820
>>62417865
Can you not twll that was an obvious shitpost
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>>62417881
Not obvious enough for gee it seems.
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>>62417881
yes that's why i called it weak bait
is this bait too?
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Anyone use a Microsoft Wireless Desktop 900 keyboard or a Logitech MX Master Wireless Mouse? I don't game but I do program but I want the wireless minimalist look.
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>>62417904
If you primarily want to type on a keyboard get something mechanical
As far as the mouse goes that isn't minimalistic
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>>62417409
>>62417452
Why would you buy a 7600k at normal price
Did you not read the OP ever
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>>62416829
>2) If it won't go in or won't come out, don't force it, you're probably doing something wrong.
The IO shielding for the mobo takes a significant amount of force to make sure it mounts. That is why plenty of people have cut their fingers on it.
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>Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming is down to 535 european shekels

This is the lowest price for a 1080 I've seen locally, despite the price increases.

Should I?

I'm pending on getting a 1440p 144hz or a 4K monitor, just waiting for the latest releases to come on to the market.
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How the hell do I get a USB 3.0 header out of the motherboard without breaking everything?
Seriously what the fuck this is impossible
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>>62418061
iktfb. Just keep jiggling it side to side as you pull up, it'll take some force but you won't break anything
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>>62418054
Why not?
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>>62418054
1080ti is probably better for those monitors.
Anyway, why the hell are your prices $100 more than ours? Shipping can't be that bad, can it?
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>>62418061
Commence the jigglin'
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>>62417409
>intel
lol
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>>62418075
>>62418101
I watch Linus do it on a 4 year old video and it looks like a piece of cake but apparently these things literally break off sometimes
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>tfw only the video card left to order
soon
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>>62418180
Nice, what do you plan on getting?
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>>62418192
Probably just an EVGA 1060, I will likely upgrade it in the future along w/ my CPU but it should be fine for what I would use it for now.
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>>62417293
I thought Zotac was a bad brand though? Don't most people go strictly EVGA/MSI/ASUS?

>>62417151
Wouldn't you still get better overall performance out of a 1060 3GB than a 1050ti 4GB?
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If I'm changing my CPU cooler, should I wipe-off the thermal paste on the CPU? should I use specific cloth or will tissues be fine?
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>>62418089
Shipping is free, also another year of warranty (3).

Also European existential taxes.

>>62418080
This thread is always nitpicking on individual hardware, was expecting someone to call out and say that that model is shit because of reasons.
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Sup anons I want to build a 1080p/144hz and this is what I came up with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3PhrKZ

Any suggestions?
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>>62418261

Yes, you should wipe off the thermal paste and you need something without fibers
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>>62418261
Use something that won't leave lint, like a coffee filter.
Use some isopropyl alcohol (% doesn't matter very much) also.
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>>62418043
I was talking about the wires and sockets mostly, but yeah sure. But that's just common sense. Nothing to break about a fucking I/O shield is there? And how the hell did you cut your fingers on it? First rule is don't be a fucking brainlet.

>>62418252
It's fine. It's not the best but you don't need the best.
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>>62418300
Would also be out of place in my 2 year old entry grade pc, but the only thing that I feel that my system lacks is graphical power.

Don't want to upgrade yet since my pc has been running flawlessly since the second W10 update. Also very little need of cpu power outside of games (and not that much need in most of my library anyways).
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>>62418242
That's what I did. Except I got it at $190 a week ago. If you did hard enough you might still find it around that price.
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>>62418252
>Wouldn't you still get better overall performance out of a 1060 3GB than a 1050ti 4GB?
Yes.
Most scenarios where the 1GB matters end up seeing the 1050ti choking anyway.
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HOW DID YOU GUYS LIVE WITHOUT SSDS?!?!

HOOOOOW?! Fuck I just did days worth installations (not counting download speeds) in a hour or so. Fucking restarts and related updates were zilch time too.
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>>62418518
Shit were at? I see it for about $270 at amazon still.
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>>62418628
I still haven't finshed my build, I am excited to see the difference an SSD makes
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>>62418635
https://www.walmart.com/product/158039014/sellers

See if that link works. I see $190 from walmart at the moment. 3gb version though. Good luck with any 6gb. At 1080p works just fine til shit blows over from whats going on with gpus.
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>>62418653
Night and day.
It was storage, not processing power, that has held back user experience. You could build a computer with a Celeron and SSD today and it would "feel" faster than an i7 with a HDD.
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>>62415012


is there anything more infuriating than when a family member has a fucking prebuilt pc with those annoying 5in bays that ratch up out of the way and a fucking HDD mount that requires you to unscrew 4 other things to gain access too and a fucking old ass BIOS that doesnt natively just boot from USB for installing windows 10

i literally just went to pcpartpicker and spent $100 to get them a real PC and will give them my G4600 that i just swapped out for my 7700T
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>>62418681
A 3gb will get 1080p? Maybe I'll go for that since I am considering upgrading in the next year anyways
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>>62418653
Like the other guy, it really was night and day for me as well. I went from some seagate HDD (I think) to a cheap Sandisk 120GB Plus SSD and was absolutely blown away by how fast games like CK2 loaded. It died on me like 5 or 6 months after buying it though, so deffo try to go for a Samsung or Kingston SSD.
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>>62418703

with that being said, Windows 10 improves HDD performance exponentially over every major linux version, i know this from experience

I used to think my HDD was dying or something, especially when downloading heavily, everything would chug

I eventually switched to SSD tho and just got a 1TB for my games


>>62418681

don't get the 3GB version, just in GTA5 alone which is now about to be 3 years old on PC (but really a 2013 game) needs more than 3 for stuff that matters at 1080p
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>>62418763
VRAM doesn't matter as long as you have backup RAM to support it. I've 2GB of VRAM and whenever I run out my PC automatically uses my 32GB of regular RAM.
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>>62418763

>>62418719

Well what anon said. Sit in til the gpu shitstorm blows over. I caved in since I had all my parts back in May but the GPU and things kept getting worse.
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>>62418797
VRAM matters for stuff like texture. Unless you think offloading textures to RAM is a good idea, then simply gets used to popins and stuff looking untextured for 1-2 seconds whenever you look at them.
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>>62418803
I have the money, I'm just going to get it instead of waiting so i can slap my build together.
Fuck all of those coiner cunts and their ponzi scheme bullshit.
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>>62418818
The delay is barely even noticeable though.
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>>62418797

even with everything turned off or to as low as possible in GTA5 its still almost 2GB of ram

bottom line the 1060 6GB is noticably cheaper than the 2-3 cards faster than it, its a literal 2x price jump to the 1070

if I had gone with the 1050ti or 1060 3GB because of everyone spouting the 1080 only needs 2GB meme would have been massively upset
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I'm chopping up an ATX power supply to connect it to a 3D printer, and I figured you guys would be the ones to ask about this.

I need to connect all of the +12v yellow wires together to handle the load from the printer, but I also see yellow cables with a blue stripe. What I've read is that these are +12v as well but from a second rail...?

Anyway my question is, can the yellow/blue stripe cables be bundled with the solid yellow ones?
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>>62418899
>>62418838
>>62418818
Clueless PC-building noob here. I've got a limited budget, would the 1060 6GB paired with 8GB of ram be better than a 10603GB paired with 16GB of ram? Because that's what I'm getting from this thread
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>>62418956
Get 1060 6GB and 16GB of ram
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r8 this geyming loonix dual boot build. I'm aiming to buy the parts sometime in mid November. Maybe even doing Black Friday and Cyber Monday.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xdcBCy

I will only be gaming at 1080p by the way.

A little unsure about the case. I'd like to have at least one at storage drive visible. If you recommend another case I'd like it to be easy to clean. I'm using a cheap case right now and cleaning it is a hassle.

This computer will be in the same room I sleep in so I'd like to keep any light pollution to a minimum in case I want to leave it running overnight.
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>>62418972
>I've got a limited budget
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>>62418956
yes, although I'd look for other areas to skimp on first before memory. 1060 3gb is worth less than worthless.
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>>62418988
Save some more
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>>62418985
>all thiat cooling for a 1060 and a 1600x
m8 go all out on the actual parts before you worry about the bells and whistles
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>>62418985
you dont need water cooling. if you're over clocking just get a better, cheaper air cooler. as for case get one without a window or put it facing away from your bed.
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>>62416749
Put up to date versions of all of your favorite software and browser bookmarks/settings onto a usb stick or something so you'll be ready to go
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>>62416749
begin preparation for transfer
organize your media
make note of all your current software and settings that you want on your new system
think of things you can use your current pc for (like a HTPC for another room)
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>>62418628
is the ssd speed that fast? i'm always dout the speed that the advertizement promised
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>>62419038
In that case should I step down to them ryzen 5 1600 and use the stock cooler? I wasn't sure if I really wanted to overclock anyway. Jokes about Nvidia cards overheating has me a little spooked. Sometimes I wonder if I'm overly paranoid about my computer is overheating. Maybe you're right and stock fans in the case would be enough?

>as for case get one without a window or put it facing away from your bed.
I have severe autism and want to look at the pretty components. I went from being a neat to doing something productive so this computer is a bit of a trophy as well as an upgrade.
I forgot to mention that my budget is $1,500.
stepping down to a 1600 and omitting the fans and water cooler shaved $200 off the cost. somehow I can't think of what else to put that towards. Should I just save it for a nice peripheral?
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>>62419233
SSDs to HDDs are like fighter jets vs bicycle
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Which GPU to use for 1080p 144hz?
Have my eyes on 1070 and 1060 6gb
Also which aftermarket nvidia cards have the best aircooling right now?
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>>62419259
that's why I'm tempted to by the ssds in my build early. I'm not though. I'm not buying an SSD mounting kit just a toss it away two months later.
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>>62419272
1070. As for which brand I'm not sure but I usually buy evga and I've never had an issue with heat
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What if you use SSD for the OS and has a regular hd for storing games? Will I still see any benefits for my vidya?
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>>62419248
Yeah, or you could bump up to r5 1600. It would help to know what you plan to do with the computer, if you just need a daily driver for the next three years, a 1600 is probably your best bet
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>>62419405
Not much benefits. I usually hear that storing games on SSD is better
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>>62419405
Really depends. For games that frequently load huge files (Fallout 4 most notably) you will see dramatic improvement. For open-world games with no loading zones etc you will only get startup time improvement.
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>>62419248
I'd say go down to the 1600 and if you're worried about overheating you can also just go for a cryorig or noctua as they are both very good cpu coolers. As for gpu get one with two or three fans to avoid heat issues.
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>>62419272
If you're doing 1080p gaming get a 480/580 with a cheap freesync monitor.
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>>62419405
no. If your games are on your HDD, you won't see any improvements. However, if you play a bunch of AAA games, an SSD won't cut it unless you micromanage your installations. The best thing you can do price/performance-wise is get a 250gb SSD and an HDD and store loose (pirated, GOG, etc.) games (installers or isos and shit) on the HDD, then when you want to play them, install them on the SSD, and once you finish, back up the saves and uninstall them to clear space for other games. As for steam games, just install and uninstall as you please and let Steam's save backup shit take care of it.
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Is it worth getting a 500GB SSD and store all of my main stuff there; or a 250GB SSD + a HD is enough?
Like, with a 250GB SSD I can't keep my OneDrive files on the SSD, and neither my job-related files.
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>>62419511
250gb+HDD suits most everyone's needs best but I don't really know anything about one-drive, why wouldn't you keep those and your job-related files on an HDD?
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Guys, should I purchase this monitor for $500?
http://www.microcenter.com/product/478876/Agon_AG271QG_27_LED_Gaming_Monitor_w

>27"
>2560x1440
>IPS
>G-Sync
>165 Hz

Same AU Optronics ppanel as everyone else of course.
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>>62419546
>why wouldn't you keep those and your job-related files on an HDD?
I work with construction, and some Revit and AutoCAD files get kinda big, like several hundreds MB.
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>>62419606
can't see anything immediately wrong with it. If I were in the market for a monitor, I'd jump on it.
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>>62419653
>get kinda big, like several hundreds MB.
Can you hear back there in 1998?
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>>62419422
>It would help to know what you plan to do with the computer

Gaming, although I bought a PS4 to minimize usage of Windows. There's some games I either can't or I' unwilling to play on consoles. Other than that I shitpost, watch cute girl cartoons and write My Diary Desu. If it weren't for not wanting to let go of PC gaming entirely, I would be spending much less a new computer or just continuing to use my old one.
The most demanding things it's going to do is Doom 2016, Minecraft with crazy mods and Dwarf Fortress. other than that my computing needs are pretty minimal.

>>62419465
I'm thinking I should consider it a success that my build is currently under budget. I'll just install software to track thermals in both Windows and Linux. I'll try not to worry about it unless the GPU gets up to 80 degrees.
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>>62419699
1600 it is then, with a 1060 6gb if you have 1080p display
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>>62419657
Currently I don't have a decent enough GPU but I doubt 4k 165 Hz monitors will be this affordable in the future. I also doubt Vega will shape up to be good.
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>>62419755
>1600 it is then, with a 1060 6gb if you have 1080p display
I do. I'm in no rush to upgrade to 4K. Especially the case since I have two monitors it would bother me if one was higher-res than the other.it wouldn't be so bad since I'm an I3 user butit would bother me all the same. This is from someone who's slightly annoyed that both his monitors are different models.

Definitely not going for anything more expensive than a 1060. The GPU is definitely the shortest-lived component in a gaming PC. With the crypto mining craze I was almost prepared to settle for a 1050 ti. GPU prices look acceptable now. I just hope it keeps up through the holiday season.
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>>62415012
Any decent graphic cards for Pentium 4 built?
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>>62419923

You are probably better of buying a new computer at this point since a new GPU would either be bottlenecked by the P4 or you can't find an AGP graphics card
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Why isn't the 1060 6gb called 1060 ti?
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>>62419993
Any example of poorfag build?
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>>62420091
Only the 1080 ti deserves the moniker
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>>62418956
Buy the 6GB and a 1x8 and buy another 1x8 later
Also on a budget get 2400MHz RAM because it is better price/performance
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>>62420156
What about 1050ti?
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>>62419272
1070 or Vega 56. If you are willing to step down quality (don't reccomend this) the 1060 6GB or 580 will work.
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Finally decided to build a new machine even though my i7 930 Bloomfield build from 7.5 years ago is still running fine.
Trying a Ryzen build now.

AMD RYZEN 5 1600x - $230
ASRock X370 Taichi AM4
WD Black 512GB SSD - M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe
Combo $380 @newegg for Motherboard +ssd
Going to just move my current GTX960 over until 2070 comes out or see deal on 1080.
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>>62420321
>WD Black SSD

Nigga what?
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>>62420344
Afirmative Action SSD ;)
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>>62420356
I mean why though? WD BLACKED anything is a meme.
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>>62420385
It will be much better than the current sata 2 HDD I've been using for 7.5 years.
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Seriously eyeing the NZXT S340 Elite, but it has a tiny 160mm cooler clearance. Are we to the point where radiators are cost effective over air and I should just go liquid, or is there another case with similar minimalist aesthetics?
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>>62420473
Define or InWin 303
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Speccy done. the GPU is temp once again til the gpu shitstorm blows over.

Having an issue though. I went away from the comp for 2 hours to take care of some farm chores and came back to the comp turned off. When trying to turn on, the comp seemed turned on but nothing on the monitor. Switching motherboard and gpu connections did nothing.

So I forced a shut down (5 second push dealio), tried to turn back on and same thing happened with nothing on monitor. Noticed when forced shutdown or turned on, power light on case was blinking.

Looked up something on net, decided to unplug, wait awhile, plug back in, and it turned on normally, somewhat. From a cold boot the comp seems to post, restart after a few seconds, post, then gets to the asrock's bios/etc. options screen (F2, f11, etc. options) then starts normally.

As of this posting for past hour, comp hasn't turned off or anything, and disabled sleep if that might'ave effected anything.
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>>62420473
Meshify C or R5 or Define C
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This is the build I have right now, is there anything I can add/change? I'm looking to get a different case and need some recommendations. Also where to buy a good desk?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hvzxwV
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>>62420589
IKEA. Or just a cheap Ameriwood desk from Amazon or something. What's your budget and what are you using it for?
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>>62415012
Should I get it buckos? Can be configure with 3tb of RAM
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>>62420589

You should definitely get an after market cpu cooler, and dude, get an SSD for sure. Use the SSD for Windows and top priority stuff/games.
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>>62420663
Why?
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>>62420663
>3 quadros
am i high or is that price wrong
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>>62420589
What kind of case do you want?
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Is it worth paying $65 extra to get from Palit 1060 6gb to xfx 580 gts 8 gb?
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I need to spend $15 on amazon for free shipping so is there anything handy that you would reccomend?
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>>62420713
It starts around $2500, if it can be configure with 3tb ram, 3x quardo p6000, 56 core total, 48tb storage.

That is easily somewhere $15,000 to $20,000
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If I need a GPU for 1080p max settings gaming for next couple of years, can I settle with 1060 or should I go for 1080?
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>>62420681
I like the industral design and it can upgrade it up later on with as much ram and storage I need
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Anybody have any experience with the MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon?
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>>62420793
A 1060 is great for 1080p max right now, however if you want to be sure, go with a 1070... If you can find one for a decent price. If you can't, then yeah, just go with a 1080. It will obviously do 1080p + more, and you'll then have the option to even upgrade to 1440p or 4K.
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>>62420516
What case are you using?
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>>62420620
My budget is around $600. again I already have everything on that list I'm just looking for a 4K monitor and a desk. I wanted to look at different case in case I see something else I like.

I'm using it to game and record/stream.

>>62420680
Sorry I have an SSD but it's like 50 gigs. Which one should I get? ANd I though the cpu cooler that comes with Ryzen was good?

>>62420735
Something that's roomy or something that's small so that I can take my pc with me and I won't have to buy a laptop. Sorry if I'm being weird.

Pic related is the roomy case I wanted but they want $550
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>>62420842

Get a Samsung EVO. They are awesome. And desu, I have no idea about the Ryzen stock fans, as I'm in intel camp as of right now.
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>>62420830
Rosewill r5 usb 3.0 version.
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>>62420842
Here.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t6MQkT
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>bought a GTX 1070 upgrading from HD 7950
>Battlefield 1 still has significant frame drops on fucking medium

Have I done something wrong?
i5 3470
16gb DDR3 1600MHz
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How efficient are power supplies under very low load? High usage stuff like gaming is probably only 1/4 of what I use my computer for. I'm seriously considering buying an 80 Plus Titanium PSU because it requires 90% efficiency at 10% usage, whereas none of the other rating have any requirements for 10% usage. Are they normally pretty good, or would it be worth springing for it?
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>>62420842
>>62420942
Also, Ryzen stock coolers are pretty good. you can get to a 3.5 clock on a stock cooler, and that's conservative. If your not overclocking, then the stock one is fine. If your doing some heavy overclocking, like 4.0, pick up a Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4.
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>>62420782
Thermal paste
Smaller phillips head screwdriver if you don't have one. Maybe an anti-static mat?
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>>62420842
Would you rather have 4k IPS or 1080p 240hz?

Also for the desk, if you got money and time I recommend this place that made custom wood table tops

https://www.tablelegs.com/shop-by-products/table-tops/solid-hardwood-table-tops/

then buy legs for IKEA then set it up

or buy a IKEA table top?
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>>62420842
You're fine with that case honestly. With the way the case industry is, you either go cheap (<$100) or super premium (>$200) with nothing really in between. The Evolv ATX looks good for ATX. For a practical portable build though, you're going to have to rethink your whole build.
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>>62420956

Maybe you're having a bottleneck from the aging CPU. It's definitely possible.
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>>62421011
Hmm so I'd need to get a new CPU, motherboard and DDR4 RAM :(

Worth waiting for new Intel chips?
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>>62420942
Thanks, I'm loving this monitor.

>>62420959
I don't think I'm going to overclock it anytime time soon but I'll put the cooler on my save list. thank you.

>>62420971
4K and the tables look good but I'll check local ikea first, thanks.

>>62420972
>Evolv ATX
Holy fuck, this looks nice. I was thinking about the Cooler Master HAF XB II EVO but pic related looks amazing.
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>>62421030
Buy Ryzen.
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>>62421041
Will I regret it when Intel stomp them?
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>>62420942
>>62421033
I wouldn't get NVMe if you don't know for sure that you need it.
Buy a drive with a better price/GB and the performance difference is minimal.
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Well boys and girls, I got an AMD Sapphire Nitro RX 480 with 8 gb vram on ebay right now, used. Bid's at $83 and my max bid is at $200. Wish me luck!
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>>62421052
No, but you'll probably regret burning down your house when you buy Intel.
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I'm gonna buy the In Win 909 because it has a front USB-C port (motherboard I'm getting has a from USB-C I/O header). Any other USB-C cases?
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Friends, does this look okay? Have I fallen in any memepits? I probably only have another £70 or so to spend and I still need to buy a keyboard and mouse. I'm not looking to do anything super graphics heavy because I mainly play strategy games and I'll only be using it for photo editing if anything else.
Also I have a 1TB HDD and monitor so I don't need to worry about those and I don't think I've missed anything super important.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mmmRcc
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>>62421117
You can buy a 303C, and I'm pretty sure the Enthoo Elite has a C port if your insane.
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>>62421099
>>62421067
You guys serious or just memeing to shill AMD?

You don't think Intel would have an answer for Ryzen?
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I just pulled the trigger and bought this PC for 1665eur in total

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3LmjTH

Waited all the summer for the vega meme and in the end flopped hard, FUCK YOU RAJA
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>>62421134
If it works for you you're good.
One note is that 120GB really doesn't hold much. I would suggest 240-250 if you can afford it (price/GB is usually better at that size anyway).
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>>62421134
Budget ain't gotta be ugly.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vm8qtJ
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>>62421140
Intel will have to make serious changes. Plus AMD can just keep making more zen iterations
>>62421144
Looks great. I have a similar system and it performs just as I want it to.
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>>62421144
Looks good anon.
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>>62421140
Intel still beats Ryzen, but the gap has been closed so much that they're crapping themselves trying to deal with it without lowering prices. Intel has been better than AMD for so long that they've just been coasting, and now that AMD has caught up, Intel is actually having to try to compete. So, yeah, if price or core count at all factors into your build, AMD. If single-core performance is the only thing you care about, cost be damned, Intel is still king.
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Is it safe to use 2x 6pin to 6+2pin for my gtx 1080 ti?

Using a Corsair silent pro 1000w btw.
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I need a new desk. I've got a nearly 8 foot run of wall that I'm just going to mostly cover in usable(read: chair fits under without me kicking table leg) desk space. What's the cheapest way I can get a rock solid, doesn't wiggle/bend desk?
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>>62421173
>>62421181
Thanks, friends. I'll look into this issue further as I'm not purchasing the parts for another couple of weeks.
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>>62421219
Aside from the SSD size, I would also consider buying one 8GB RAM stick and buying another later.
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>>62421216
IKEA? I really don't know anywhere else because I buy all my furniture from IKEA.
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>>62421210
Probably, but just get cablemod or something in the long run. At the very least there is less clutter and it could potentially prevent a fire.
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>>62421216
Holy shit, more pics like this please.
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>>62421216
This looks hilariously unstable.
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Should I consider buying Optane memory with my compatible hdd system or is this another ssd meme. Also, why isn't this being discussed more?
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>>62421216
ikea linmon is pretty solid even though it's made out of cardboard.
but the laminate will peel off at the area your hands.
i would suggest you head to the kitchen section order a butcher block the length you want and get some legs from the desk section.
if your house is not made of paper, you can get some brackets and get legless desk.
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>>62421406
it's a meme.
just get ssd.
unless you have 4TB of vidya gaymes installed.
even that, you can get a hybrid hdd from shitgate.
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>>62421216
Look up IKEA Fredde. GOAT workstation
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>>62421406
Optane is a scam and ramdisk has been around forever.
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>>62421457
That thing's a wobbly piece of shit. Good on a budget but seriously, don't subject yourself to IKEA garbage unless you're a NEET refurnishing their bedroom.
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>>62421369
I hadn't realized the irony of using that picture when I posted, but, heh.
>>62421414
Ikea's butcher block is 1/8" butcher block on top of particleboard. Not even MDF.
>>62421457
Wouldn't work, thanks though. Want a large flat desk so me and GF can both have PCs on it and play games.
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>>62421216
>>62421504
I am interested in this too but I only need a one person desk.
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>>62415012
I have a FX6300 CPU and a GTX 730, im running csgo in Low settings and lagging occasionally. The gtx runs at 70% to 80%. I know its an older gpu but ive heard of people playing csgo on 580's without issue. Any ideas?
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>>62421569
Just get a new PC?
What else can I tell you?
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>>62421569
I don't have an sdd. I'm not sure if thats relevant but im adding it.
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>>62421577
gpu's r so fucking expensive dab nabit
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RAVEN RIDGE
WHEN
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>>62421605
Just get a job or something
Your hardware is pretty shit so don't expect to play anything remotely new on it
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>>62421481
The fuck you talking about? Built mine recently and it doesnt wobble at all.
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Fuck miners, those idiots and their ponzi scheme have ruined prices.
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Any word on ATX sized Epyc motherboards?
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>>62421569
Being in the 700 series doesn't make it better than a 580. A 580 was one of the top cards of that generation, whereas the 730 is one of the lower cards in its generation. First number is series, second is speed, basically, and then all bets are off when they make Ti versions, because fuck you, that's why.
>>62421583
It's not.

Your GPU is just shit and it's time to upgrade. CPU is fine for something like CS:GO, but it's also not great.
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>>62421697
Thank you, your answer was helpful!
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>>62415012

PC tends to not start sometimes. Gets to BIOS or not even before that when it hits a black screen and doesn't do anything else.

Fans spinning, lights on, etc.

Tilt it forward a bit and it works. This happens on and off and it's starting to happen again. I always clean it out monthly and keep shit fastened.

I'm using an SSD as a boot drive and that doesn't seem to be the issue. My PSU cables are quite short and I've had to force a few round some corners to make the case sides go back on.

New PSU with better cables? What does /g/ recommend? Currently got XFX 550W Gold
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>>62421728
Sounds like it's probably cables to your monitor.
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>>62421728
If everything gets power like >>62421822 said it is probably to do with your monitor because if that won't function your PC can still boot.
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Best psu under 100?
Best monitor under 100?
One fan or two fan gpus? Does the extra fan matter at all?
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>>62421879
In reverse order;
Yes, very much. If you can go three fan go three fan.
Most monitors at 100$ are shit.
Anything EVGA or Seasonic.
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>>62421905
Thanks mang
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>>62421905
>>62421931
EVGA has poor quality control, please don't
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what do you guise think?

anything I should change?
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>>62421569
>>62421697
>>62421707
To elaborate on that guys answer, a GT 730 is actually a rebranded GT 530, that or a cut down GT 650. Nvidia went kind of nuts on the low end in the 6 and 7 series and sold multiple different chips with the same brand number.
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>>62422125
i5 a shit
CLC a meme
top bun on the board
meme overpriced memory
good SSD, only quality on the build
meme HDD
nice GPU price faggot
shit case senpai
heres what that EVGA PSU likes to do
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>>62422125
>intel
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>>62422168
Its not for me, its for a mate

Also Australia prices are inflated.

>>62422177
I don't want him to deal with BIOS updates to make things stable.
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>>62422189
you're a fucking idiot, Kabylake has a microcode bug that'll sometimes freeze the system up unless you update.
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It's for gaming. I'm gonna buy some Silentwings 3 and put them in their, also a 580 when prices get better.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C66g9W
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>>62422364
there*
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guise is the MEMESYNC any useful? or the difference it's not even noticable?
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>>62422364
Asus Ryzen boards are dogshit, they dropped the ball hard, best brands are Gigabyte and Asrock

TEAM always gave me issues with RAM when I built them for friends, bad QA

EVGA PSU a shit
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Pls halp i'm not good with computer
GALAX - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC or EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SSC?
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>>62422420
Literally everything said here is retarded bullshit.
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>>62422420
>EVGA PSUs are bad
>Asrock is best
opinion: discarded
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>>62422425
both overpriced, and the galaxy has a single shitty fan
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>>62422440
so EVGA?
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what is the best 1080ti?

evga ftw3 or asus strix? I'm open to other suggestions.
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>>62422455
Duke OC. Or Black OC.
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>>62422431
>>62422436
Asus is normally top tier, Asrock is normally mediocre, it's a weird world senpai. I haven't looked into Threadripper boards, but for Ryzen itself it's true. The Crosshair series especially shit the bed.

EVGA PSU a shit is factual >>62422168

I've had more DOA from Team than working sticks.
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Currently using a Antec 450W semi-modular piece of shit. Upgraded to a 1070, so obviously want a better PSU.

> Ryzen 7 1700
> Corsair H100i v2
> X370 MSI SLI Plus Motherboard
> 2x8Gb DDR4 Ram
> 2.5" SSD
> M.2 NVMe SSD
> MSI 1070 Sea Hawk X
> 6x 120mm fans
> USB Mouse, Keyboard

I've had a look at pricing. So this is my shortlist. What do I get? Australia is fucking stupid, for pricing. Can't reconcile what is good value vs worth investing in. My gut is the EVGA.

> Corsair RMx 550 Gold PSU
> Corsair RMx 650 Gold PSU
> EVGA G2 750 Gold PSU
> Silverstone Strider 550 Platinum PSU
> Silverstone Strider 650 Platinum PSU
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>>62422478
One of the last three.
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>>62422467
You haven't looked into shit and you're either deluded or just lying. Fuck off.
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>>62422478
don't bother with the CLC, Ryzen is process limited not thermal limited
MSI a shit
why two SSD
most cases come with fans already

Probably the RMx, CWT built.
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>>62422478
>>62422510
>Corsair PSUs
Not even once.
Buy EVGA or Seasonic anon.
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>>62422510
Learn to read mate, I already have those parts. Only the 1070 is new.
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>>62422440
pls respond
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A guy who is an architect asked me to do a pc build for him but didn't give a price range just saying "an acceptable amount" so I'm sorta looking at around $3000aud. From what I can tell he uses the auto cad suite (design).
>3000 aud
>autocad (design)
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xFKQkT
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>>62422516
what's wrong with corsair psu??
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>>62422520
What's your question?
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>>62422526
should i get EVGA?
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>>62422388

Depends on how sensitive you were to screen tearing nigga. I have a 1080 on a 1440/165hz display, so not having to deal with screen tearing when floating in the 100s is pretty damn nice.
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>>62422504
Sorry I hurt your feefees over your favorite brand. Go ahead and buy your Superflower dogshit, funny how habitually replace the capacitors 6 months into production to get good reviews out of the original batch.

>>62422516
Corsair is a minefield, their low end crap is bottle barrel, but certain things like the RMx and AX series are still good.
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>>62422523
why does the "G.Skill - Value 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory" cost $365
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>>62422542
Australia is fucked
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>>62422532
Gigabyte.
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>>62422542
phones started using ddr4 and production can't keep up

also they're colluding
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>>62422455

The cheapest, all OC about the same since none thermal throttle except the MSI Armor edition. Avoid blower style if you're sensitive to noise though.
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>>62422556
what about customer service experiences with any companies??
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>>62422564
evga easy, I'd get SC black edition since it's still open air but cheaper than the FTW and Kingpin
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>>62422536
You're full of shit. Funny how you have no sources to back up any claims and rely on "muh anecdotes" which are conveniently never substantiated.
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>>62422523
your retarded
here
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LGnhf8
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>>62422523
>>62422594
this
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>>62422578
ok ty
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>>62422594
I was trying to find benchmarks comparing ryzen 7 vs 7800x but couldnt find any. Ty famalam
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>>62422588
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-G2-0750-XR
100% JAPANESE CAPACITORS FOLDED A GORILLION TIMES

Oh no, whats this, CapXon capacitors for line out filtering on an EVGA G2??? You know, one of the dozens of chinese companies that put out improperly doped electrolytic capacitors for a dozen+ years that all bulge and fail? Totally anecdotal.
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>>62422594
Why wouldn't you go for something more enthusiast to allow for ram upgrades in the future and not go for any archival hard drives when the case supports it instead of getting a 1tb meme ssd drive.
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Ended up with spare parts, so doing a second build for my wife. She plays emulated PS1 games and does work processing (lawyers hey). I've marked the things I already have as (Purchased). Balanced build?

> CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core ($218.00 @ Shopping Express)
> Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 (Purchased)
> Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($105.00 @ Umart)
> Storage: Western Digital - Green 120GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($79.00 @ Centre Com)
> Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased)
> Video Card: MSI - GeForce GT 710 2GB Low Profile (Purchased)
> Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C White ATX Mid Tower (Purchased)
> Power Supply: be quiet! - STRAIGHT POWER 10 CM 600W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular (Purchased)
> Monitor: LG 27MP58VQ-P 1920x1080 IPS Monitor (Purchased)
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>>62422588
>>62422690
oh and whats this, more capxon capacitors in the cable sleeving tucked away?
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>>62422751
It's shit. Return it all.
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>>62422751
Get R5 1600 +2cores/2threads and maybe high frequency RAM
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>>62422774
eat a dick, kiddie
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>>62422807
Fuck you faggot.
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>>62422816
I have wife and child, and you're arguing with a stranger on the internet in the the hope for some form of connection. You're the faggot, faggot. You're not going to make it. If you can't be constructive, maybe you need to step back and assess what needs fixing. I
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>>62422588
>>62422690
>>62422758
ain't just one model either
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-GS-0550-V1

hope you like Enesol
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>>62422751
>>62422792
Also you could go for 1050 ti
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>>62422835
Okay.
Asrock Mobo. They make bad motherboards.
Higher frequency RAM with Ryzen.
Buy a 1030. It's better.
Your case looks like dogshit.
be quiet makes good fans. Their coolers are overpriced & their PSU's aren't good.
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>>62422883
Asrock Ryzen boards are good
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>>62416136
delid dis
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I still have a Bulldozer CPU @ 4.0 GHz and GTX 1050 ti

seems good enough for even modern games. getting 90+ FPS on high settings.

Should i upgrade for the measly 10 - 30 FPS gains?
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>>62415352
Reminder
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>>62423093
just wait for Zen 2 then
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>>62422125
What's with you people and your watercooling meme?
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>>62422594
>1800X
>quad channel kit
t. retard
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>>62423230
it'll just work like two dual channel kits
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>>62423245
1800X has complete shit value and AutoCAD is single threaded garbage software.
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It's pretty funny that it's impossible for someone to figure it what's good or not because for every person that says it is there will be someone saying it's horrible.
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Bout to pull the trigger on some DDR4 3200 14cl ram that's on sale, however I don't plan to upgrade my Haswell system until Ryzen 2. What are the chances Ryzen 2 will like the same Ram frequency as this one? Should I just wait, or take advantage of "saving" $20 in this shit free market.
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>>62423311
We have people shitting on seasonic psus because one retard had a psu out of 1 trillion fail on him.
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>>62415852
>Do you know what "refurbished" means? Used.
Refurbished means that it's actually been tested and fixed in case something is wrong with it, you're not just buying it off some random idiot off the street. You still haven't presented a single argumeny for why buying used is a problem.
>The Ivy Bridge i5 has better performance than a G4560, but not by that much. Akin to buying an R3 1200.
And how much does it cost to buy a G4560 system? At least 500 bucks, and how much does buying a used enterprice machine cost? $100 bucks for the PC itself, then add a GPU and maybe a PSU. The G4560 literally serves no purpose when you can get a Ryzen 1200 system for the same price.
>I'd rather have the option for a 7700 over a 3770.
Good for you, I'd rather have the option to save my shekels and buy whatever Zen CPU I want up until 2020 since you can just reuse the GPU and PSU you put in the used machine and you're only out $100 to get better performance compared to a G4560 build.
>Pretty sure the refurbished Dell should have an IGP as well.
I'm talking about the G4560 compared to the 1200. The G4560 isn't a "poverty tier" CPU if you're going to add a GPU since you can build a Ryzen 1200 machine for the exact same price and actually have an upgrade path available. You only buy the G4560 if you're not going to use a GPU since Ryzen doesn't have a iGPU.
>Not everyone has the time and patience to tinker.
We're in a thread about building your own PC, that's exactly the kind of time and patience they have.

>There are plenty of prebuilt machines that are new that can be found at great prices
Alright, please show me one of these machines that can be found for $100 bucks, or $300 if you're going to add a 1050 Ti and PSU to it.
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>>62415852
Why are you here? Just buy a fucking pre-built if you're going to make retarded arguments
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just got myself new ssd and i found nvme drivers for it. do i need to switch to ahci or is that nvme driver enough and i can leave bios alone? my first ssd
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How does a phenom II x6 hold up these days? Still decent for games or utter garbage?
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Just found out I've been supplying a r9 290 on a molex to 6pin + molex to 6+2pin for years now
They are connect to the same main cable
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>>62423605
garbage for modern games. Best bang for the buck right now is an AMD Ryzen 5 1600
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>>62423549
Is your SSD an m.2 or a 2.5"?
NVMe is only for m.2
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>>62423719
i got samsung 850evo.

i thought i wont need any drivers but windows rates it 5.9 which is exactly the same as my previous 7 years old hdd full of errors so something isnt right
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>>62415852
What prebuilt machine can be had for $300 with a 1050Ti in it? Are you retarded? A used Dell Optiplex costs $100, a 1050Ti costs $150-160 and a PSU costs $30-40
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Do I buy a GTX 1070 right now?
Using a old GTX 570, can barely play games at very low.
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>>62423873

Chances are your ass plays at 1080p, get a 1050ti or a 1060
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>>62423853
>a 1050Ti costs $150-160
lol
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>>62423784
the 950 evo is available both as an m.2 or a 2.5" form factor. Just telling me it's an 850 evo tells me nothing.
Either way, I'd probably say no. nmve is a standard that has to be built into the SSD and it can only be used by m.2 SSDs.

And so you don't get confused. The top SSD in this picture is a 2.5" SSD which connects to the motherboard via a Sata cable.
The Bottom SSD is an m.2 SSD that plugs directly into the motherboard.
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>>62424003
2.5" then

why is my ssd so badly rated by my pc? it makes me thing something horribly wrong and i wasted shitload of money
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>>62423908
?
https://newegg.com/products/N82E16814125916
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>>62424095
Wrong link
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125916
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>>62422690
>>62422758
>>62422844
If my PSU dies I'll just set in motion a class-action suit.
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>>62424037
ignore it. The 850 Evo is a good SSD.
The best SSDs at the moment are the Samsung 850 Evo, Sandisk Ultra II, and the Crucial MX300, so as long as it's one of those and at least 240 GB, you're good.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20170428175153/https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137117
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>>62424121
thanks for the help. i just this very moment updated to sp1 and suddenly its max rating so all is good. no need to tinker with anything. i guess service pack contained some upgrades that include how ssd operates with the system.
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>>62424135
FUUUCKKKKKK




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