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First for shitposting
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>>62787478
Second for Debian best distro

Literally has it all, Stable for servers/people that just want it to werk, Testing for middle of the road fucks, and Sid for bleeding edge goodness with good safeguards like apt-listbugs
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>>62787519
>plebian
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>>62787478
ITT: Things you wish you knew when you were starting to use GNU/Linux

http://blog.kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/

>Holding down Alt and SysRq (which is the Print Screen key) while slowly typing REISUB will get you safely restarted. REISUO will do a shutdown rather than a restart.

For when your computer hangs and xkill can't fix it, you don't have to risk data corruption by holding down the power button. You can just do this and be safe.
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void linux?
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>>62787552
will installing gentoo give me super cow powers?
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why are we so dead
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>>62787627
non linux?
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When do you guys think 4.15 will be released?
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>>62787910
When it's done.
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>>62787910
December, probably. Maybe January.
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>>62787910
after linus's tear jar is full of the crushed hopes and dreams of those that thought they could sully the release with their pitiful code
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>>62787943
I hope so.
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>Switched from Firefox nightly to Opera for its better optimizations and feature set.

Is Firefox Quatum more stable and optimised(especially when watching youtube videos)? Sometimes watching youtube videos causes my cpu to go upto 80C.
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Best systemd free distro?
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>>62788264
Archlinux.
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>>62787988
Just stream it with mpv.
>>62788264
Debian, Fedora, RHEL, Suse Enterprise, Open Suse, Arch, Exherbo, NixOS, Ubuntu
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>>62788264
Used to use Void, it was fantastic. Switched to Slackware, also very nice. Main difference I've seen in practice is Void takes less setup time but is a little less stable due to rolling-release, and lacks good documentation.
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>>62788323
>Main difference I've seen in practice is Void takes less setup time but is a little less stable due to rolling-release, and lacks good documentation.
Void and Slackware have practically the same install process. It's simply that with Slackware you have a lot of package sets. The init systems are significantly different and are kind of a huge thing that you would know about if you actually knew what you were doing. They have totally different package managers and packaging policies. Slackware and Void are nothing alike. They are two completely different distros, and the fact that you aren't aware of that and are willing to mislead someone into thinking otherwise just shows how shallow your understanding really is.
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>>62788323
Rolling release means more up-to-date means more secure.
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>>62788397
>more secure
No it doesn't, you fucking potato.
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>>62788405
>sit on linux kernel 3.whatever
>use old versions of everything
>practically a sitting duck
don't come crying to me when you get rooted
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>>62788418
You forgot something
>security patches
>don't introduce new packages with new features and new bugs
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im about to install xubuntu on my t430. This will be my first distro. thoughts?
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>>62788477
>security patches
>but only if your distro's maintainers can be bothered
>they've already demonstrated that they can't
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>>62788497
Ah, yes, because Mint devs are of comparable competency to actual, quality enterprise projects like RHEL. And there aren't rolling release distros of poor quality that break things by introducing new, broken packages without sufficient prior testing.
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>>62788480
good choice
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>>62788480
bad choice
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>>62788418
>>A rolling release model doesn't inherently mean more secure
>That must mean that you think dot releases are better. Fuck you and your opinion!
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>>62788519
Please don't compare Mint to distros like Arch and Fedora.
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>>62788547
Please don't compare Arch to distros like Fedora and Debian.
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>>62787478
For those that compile, do you have a separate VM/other solution to keep package dependencies and conflicts away from your main install?
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>>62788547
That's the fucking point.
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>>62788557
Never compared Arch to Debian. Arch is clearly better than Debian for all but the most idiosyncratic sysadmin.
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>>62788562
Like chroots? Or an actually good package manager that handles dependency trees properly?
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>>62788539
>>62788529
fucking hell guys, heres the problem, i cant install arch or anything that will take time to learn (i have 0 gnu/linux experience) i need a light distro right now that will make my laptop work for university, kind of tired of window's bullshit. im dualbooting arch on my desktop at home tho then switch to arch on my laptop when im efficient with arch.
so tell me again why is xubuntu (or any os really) bad for research and writing some essays?
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>>62788562
Why would I need to do that? Package managers are literally designed to handle dependencies like that.
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>>62788572
Having an operating system that doesn't shit itself every other day isn't pedantic.
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>>62788583
>im dualbooting arch on my desktop at home tho then switch to arch on my laptop when im efficient with arch.
too tired to write, i butchered that sentence kek
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>>62788572
>Arch is clearly better than Debian
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html
>It has also never been a distribution offering much user freedom / choice compared to Gentoo and even Debian
>Arch is the *opposite* of a user-centric freedom. The opinion of users has no weight here. Only the developers have an opinion, and there aren't voting systems as there are in Debian
>It has always used significantly more disk space and a measurable amount of additional memory than Debian and especially Gentoo as a consequence of keeping things simple (again, from a development perspective)
Enjoy getting fucked by the devs.
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>>62788588
>pedantic
Where did that adjective come from?
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>>62782525

help
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>>62788602
From your post.
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>>62788610
Try again.
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>>62788627
Pedanticism--formalism, the need for perfection is an idiosyncratic quality.
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>>62788635
Not all forms of idiosyncrasy are pedantic.
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>>62788603
not much to help there.
Either start the wms with the suggested commands with the generic VGA driver or download another distro where the kernel modesetting and the xorg graphic driver can work together. nomodeset should always be a last resort and needing to use that indicates problems.
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>>62788583
xubuntu is both light and good for beginners, xfce is easy to customize
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>>62788644
I appreciate the fact that you're conveniently ignoring the crux of my argument, which wasn't even in defense of a point release cadence but rather just a criticism of your assertion that all distros with a rolling release cadence are secure.
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>>62788653
My assertion was that "stable" distros are generally insecure, not that all rolling release distros are secure.
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>>62788674
quick question, can i get a tiling wm on it?
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>>62788682
Was for the original version of >>62788680
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>>62788686
yes, just install the vm and from the login screen choose that rather than xfce. There is an option for this in every X login manager somewhere.
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>>62788686
Yes.
>>62788694
I know.
>>62788682
And my argument is that rolling distros can easily do just as bad a job with security as stable distros. And, as such, good, professional enterprise distros can easily exceed the quality of some 16-year-olds hobby project. And of the advantages that a rolling release model can provide for desktop, better security is not something that is guaranteed if there isn't proper auditing.
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>>62788702
another dumbass question lol, i have intel, should i be worried about the amd64 (pic related). i see no other download on the website
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>>62788732
amd64 is an architecture.
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>>62788578
>Like chroots?
I don't know, I was hoping someone could tell me.
>>62788586
>actually good package manager that handles dependency trees properly
>Package managers are literally designed to handle dependencies
What happened is kinda like this: I installed a package X, which bundles packages A and B. B is already installed on the system. Then I go to remove package X, and it pulls A, but also B. This then uninstalled packages that depended on B. What would your package manager do?
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>>62788732
no

the vast, vast majority of 64-bit consumer intel cpus use amd64
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>>62788597
>being a RAMlet
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>>62788737
thanks
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>>62788732
AMD "invented" the x86-64 extension to the old 32bit x86 architecture, that's why OS' call it "amd64" sometimes.
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>>62788732
You should be worried about Intel ME.
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>>62788666
>with the generic VGA driver
as in "disable" the graphics card in windows or rip it off the PC so it use the generic VGA?

> another distro
not an option
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>>62788771
>> another distro
>not an option
It's the same operating system.
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>>62788771
>as in "disable" the graphics card in windows or rip it off the PC so it use the generic VGA?

Yes. Similar to when you uninstall your graphic drivers or boot windows in VGA mode. Xorg can fall back to generic VGA if no other drivers work. Expect no graphic acceleration, no wide resolutions and increased CPU usage.
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>>62788794
Thanks, will try.

>>62788785
other distros have systemd
other distros don't have grsec
other distros don't use tor

this is why i'm trying to get this one working
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>>62788746
>install debian- or literally any other minimal install
>have more freedom, more minimalism, and less bloat than arch
Remind me, why do people use Arch? It's not minimal, and the rolling release development isn't unique - but what is is the devs anti-user practices, such as adoption of systemd for no benefit (it wasn't even discussed) to the end user, with the sole reason being benefit to the developer. Not to mention the shipped kernel is bloated with every module under the sun.
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>>62788818
Just be flexible. There are plenty of distros without systemd; grsec is snake oil, but if you really must use it, you can just build from source; tor is insecure but, again, you can just grab the binary from the official site.
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>>62788818
Just because a distro doesn't "have" a package doesn't mean that you can't get it. It just mean that they're not going to spoonfeed you.
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>>62788833
If it's dev friendly it means it's easier to port all sorts of packages that wouldn't be as convenient to get working on other distributions, I have nothing against Debian, I actually use it too, but I also need Arch for different packages available on the aur like modules for various network adapters I need, RAM and disk space are not an issue for me.
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>>62788925
What is Github?
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If you build a new computer. How do you load the epoch on it? If it doesn't sync from online is it just what ever the user set? Is there a hardware clock that knows the epoch?
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>>62788937
I just said it is more convenient.
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>>62788942
hardware clocks know the local or UTC time. You sync it with time servers using ntp or similar. Then your OS will calculate the epoch.
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>>62788953
How would I correct the epoch if it is on an air gapped network? Or is all bets off?
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>>62788570
Pretty sure that whole stupid reply chain came from a post comparing void and slackware.
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i have a raspberry pi running a samba server for local file sharing. No problem to access with windows

now i want to access the files and folders with my linux. and get insufficient rights
mounted the share in /etc/fstab

//Server/Folder /home/user/nas/folder cifs credentials=/home/user/.share_nas,x-systemd.automount,user 0 0
//Server/share /home/user/nas/sharecifs credentials=/home/user/.share_nas,x-systemd.automount,user 0 0


in .share_nas is the same user and password as i use as login for samba access under windows.

As additional Info: in windows i am using the same username local as for samba login, in manjaro i'm using another name.

when i connect directly to the samba folders with
smb://Server/Folder, it takes the correct login and i can access every file.

how do i need to edit the fstab so that it automounts with the correct credentials and grant me access to the shared files?
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>>62788994
Exactly. Like comparing apples and oranges, except Slackware has a fucking rolling branch so his main point wasn't even warranted.
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>>62788995
Do you have eg
username=value
password=value
domain=value

In your ~/.share_nas file?
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>>62788306
I just updated my software and Firefox was updated. I checked the changelog, and it looked like there was a bug fix.
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>>62789083
Glad it worked out for you in the end, anon :)
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>>62788264
Alpine Loonix

>>62788306
>Best systemd free
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>>62789069
yeah, username and password
i am in local home network without domain, so i didn't add that
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>>62788603
I thought he have a military pantsu on his head.
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>>62788583
>i need a light distro right now that will make my laptop work for university,
My University uses Ubuntu with a XFCE desktop environment.
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>>62789126
arch or manjaro
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>>62787478
I've installed Manjaro on my ATX few months ago, had OpenSUSE, Fedora and Ubuntu before. Manjaro keeps randomly hanging (full kernel freeze, not even magic sysrq help, only power off using power button on box). I've tried using different kernel version (currently on 4.13.4-3), different nVidia driver (have GTX560 gpu), nothing helps. None of previous distributions had this problem. Any ideas how to debug? Nothing about that in dmesg or journalctl.
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>>62787478
She touched herself that day.
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>>62789143
>the reading comprehension of this board.
I was suggesting that he use Ubuntu with XFCE
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>>62789109
>so i didn't add that
hmmmm, maybe that's why it isn't working? put your workgroup in there
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>>62787478
Can't wait for Linux 4.15, probably going to switch to a custom kernel once it's out. Any recommendations for modules?
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>>62788264

>so advanced that he has to avoid systemd
>doesn't know how to look extremely simple things up himself
>subscribes to the notion of "best"

Just end yourself already.
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what now?
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>>62789369
He is right though.
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>>62788603

Enjoying your retarded naivity which made you use a shitty distribution that you most likely don't even need (nor does anyone)?
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>>62788864

I seriously doubt there are distributions which don't have a package for something as popular as Tor.
He's just a retarded kid who fell for some myth spreaders and got impressed by Mr Robot.
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>>62789278
added the workgroup, still the same
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>>62789378

That sentence doesn't even make sense in this context.

>>62789371

Go back to your Windows, because you're obviously a retard who installed an operating system and he doesn't even need it. Not just that, but you're also a retard for thinking you accomplished something worth br
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>>62789400

... worth bragging and posting a screenshot of, like it's difficult or unique to install a Linux distribution.
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>>62789400
>but you're also a retard for thinking you accomplished something worth br
how am i thinking that i accomplished something? you cant read you dumbass. all i asked for is some recommendations on a fresh install
fuck off
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>>62789301
Why, is the some hip new feature incoming?
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>>62789400
Step away from the keyboard. Maybe talk a walk to chill out. You seem pretty riled up.
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>>62789491
Possibly AMDGPU DC.
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I don't understand, I tried Ubuntu and Linux Mint and they do the same thing! Are all distros just the same thing and you autists are arguing over literally nothing?
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>>62789600
Fundamentally, the only real differences between distros are to do with package managers and what's there by default.
You're right. There is fuck all difference between Mint and Ubuntu.
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>>62789371
now change desktop env to dwm
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>>62788264
ubuntu
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Stupid question: Can someone explain to me how linux file managers sort file names? I want to use dates for my file names but if I sort by name 2017.10.01 will be placed before 2017.09.01. I know why but I don't really get how I'm supposed to get some clean hierarchy of dates. Dolphin for instance doesn't even have an option to sort by date but only by last time changed, which is shit too because the hierarchy gets fucked every time I change a file.
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>>62789717

>Dolphin for instance doesn't even have an option to sort by date but only by last time changed
I'm not sure, but I think that's what you get with ext4 (I assume it's on the filesystem level). It doesn't have creation date times, only last modified dates.
I think there are ways to get extended file metadata, so look into that, but you'll still need your file manager to support.

For your sorting, I think certain locale settings also affect that. Look into LC_COLLATE. LC_DATE or something like that.
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>>62789756
Cool, thanks!
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>>62789600
Mint is based on Ubuntu is based on Debian
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>>62789400
real talk, keep being you. we need more people like you in these threads
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when I run "free", the used part gives me a high ram usage. if I drop the caches, it goes down to something I'd consider normal for the programs I'm running.
is this the way the free command reports ram usage?
I'm worried I configured something wrong.
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>>62789950
free considers cached memory to be 'in use', so it's fine as it is
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>>62789412
Hey man, everybody started somewhere. If you didn't do it before it's perfectly fine to feel a little bit of acomplishment. All you do is stepping down on little plants because your ego is attached to running arch or whatever instead of benefiting the community. I'm happy for everyone who finally steps away from the plantation.

Good for you dude, good for you. Keep growing.
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What programs need loop devices? How do I get rid of those loop entries without breaking anything?
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>>62789412
you're so afraid of the "people do things to be unique and special" bogeyman that you see it everywhere when it's not applicable. probably because you are insecure about your own behavior and need to accuse other people of it to feel good about yourself. lel
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>>62790110

What a sad world it is when you can't point out obvious obnoxious behaviour in other people without being accused of projecting or being insecure.
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>>62790131
at best your inference skills are piss poor because you go for that scenario when it's not applicable. i don't even need to psychologize you actually
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>>62790146
wow dude you can psychologize!?
dude you must be so cool irl :O
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>>62790131
"oh this one thing is one possible interpretation of the situation and i'm going to assume that's it because i have meme-inflicted brain damage that causes me to see it everywhere"

when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail
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>>62790146

How is it not applicable? It's a perfect specimen of the "just installed this, what do" post. You can see them in this thread and you can see them as separate threads all the time.
It's some child who heard of Linux distributions and thinks they're cool and for hackers. Then he installs it and wants to brag about it on here, thinking he did something unique.
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>>62789996
I cannot think of any program that needs or uses loop devices. If you need to disable them for any reason, blacklist the "loop" kernel module.
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>>62790171
the only reason YOU have a problem with it is because your own ego is tied up in that image otherwise you wouldn't be making the complaint, you just need to be better than someone which is pathetic, you're operating by the logic you're disavowing which is why it bugs you
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>>62790204
Apparently Krita uses one. At least one of the loop devices popped up in KDE after I installed Krita.
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>>62790171
If it's just some kid, why get mad? You were a kid once. If this really bothers you you're spending too much time here. Relax.
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>>62790234
Weird. Is it a standard, installed program or an "appimage" or similar?
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Give me (You)s
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no
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>>62790371
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What distro would be good to run on a raspberry pi or orange pi to use as a server for irc/chat and file storage?
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>>62790450
windows 10 core
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>>62790450
simple debian (or raspbian for the pie) works just fine for those purposes. There should be plenty of tutorials/howtos for setting up the servers you need.
Also don't be a dumbass, don't use a pi for file storage. It will be slow as fuck. For file server use a board that has a non-USB based ethernet (ideally SoC based), even better if it has gigabit and a SATA port.
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I've installed Lubuntu on one of the old machines I had. But I can't seem to get higher wide-screen resolution. Any way I can get them permanently?
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>>62790595
looked into xrandr?
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>>62790595
You might be able to add it as a permanent option via xorg.conf
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>>62790334
Standard I suppose. I just installed it from synaptic without any changes to the sources.list in KDE Neon.
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>>62789950
Read this
linuxatemyram.com
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>>62790610
Yes it worked as one-off solution. But when I followed the instructions to make it permanent I can't get into the OS anymore. I'm stuck at the lubuntu loading screen.
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>>62790471
Yeah I plan to use a Orange pi with a gigabit Ethernet port, but I asked Raspberry pi as it is more commonly known
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trying to get blender working on fedora. When i click on the executable nothing happens. yes its the gnu linux version
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>>62790978
did you install it via package manager? if not do so.
if you did, run it via terminal and see the messages it prints
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>>62790991
ill try it but even if i get it working i want to know what causes it not to work with the web dl version
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So many inane posts.
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What should I look into into/read for babbies first self-compiled Linux?
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reading through the gentoo documentation. been on arch three years but switching this week
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>>62791810
ok nice blogpost bro i subscribed
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>>62787988
Yes, I switched from opera to the new nightly and it's awesome
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I would like to use one of my monitors as a tiling display.One that will automatically size to a given size and scale as more windows are sent to it. I dont like the idea of a tiling wm ALL the time.I've tried pytile and pytile2 but they didnt work properly. What other alternatives are there?
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I haven't used Linux in a long while. I am impressed with the improvements in performance, stability, user friendliness and support its garnered from game developers. Previously I was using Fedora.

I was considering Fedora myself. However it's "bleeding edge". In particular I'd like to use Fedora with GNOME3. Is it not stable? How bad could updates ruin my setup (e.g. programs, drivers, bootup)?

On the other hand I was considering Ubuntu because I like Unity, its support and stability, and it's backing by a serious firm like Canonical. Either that or Lubuntu, because I like the design and it's light weight.

Is Fedora suitable for someone who wants stability?
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>>62792264
if you're not sure, you're probably better off with ubuntu/lubuntu
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>>62792283
Thanks
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>>62791697
theres no choice besides arch and gentoo (use funtoo)
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Are there any key advantages to compiling your own kernel?
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>>62792459
less memory used, pick your own optimisations / hardening levels, take out drivers etc you dont need
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>>62792459
not really

>>62792470
its like 0.1% plus you cam use kernels compiled for you cpu.
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How do you update all my packages except one with pacman?
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>>62792643
put it in pacman.conf
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>>62792679
thanks pointed me in the right direction
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>>62792798
Partial upgrades arent supported, dont make it a habit or youll be fucked
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What works:
 xterm -e cmus&

open new terminal
cmus-remote -p


What doe NOT work:
Make a shell-script with
#!/bin/bash
xterm -e cmus &
xterm & cmus-remote -p


It opens the cmus terminal and an empty terminal but doesn't start playing like in the first example.

Why???
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What's the consensus on Solus? And should I go MATE or Budgie?
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>>62793000
I forgot && in the last line. But it doesn't work.
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Jesus fuck, why is dnf in Fedora so slow? It takes minutes to download packages whereas in Debian based distro it's almost instantaneous.
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>>62792297

You can compile any program, including the kernel, on any distribution.
Stop posting your retardation memes on here, fucking imbecile.
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>>62792643
grep grep grep | grep grep
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>>62793064
you forgot to pipe it through tail you nerd
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do muh gaymes performance vary by distro? what distro typically has the best performance if there is variance?
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>>62793000
Does the script have cmus in its name?
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install minimal debian + xfce4 metapackage or fill checkbox in installer for xfce environment?

what be better?
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>>62793131
no I just run the script manually. It is called alarm.sh.
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>>62793000
#!/bin/sh
xterm -e sh -c 'cmus; cmus-remote -p'
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>>62793184
oh, minus ; plus &
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>>62793128

They all run the same software, only the version number differs sometimes. What do you think?
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>>62793000
#!/bin/bash
xterm -e cmus &
cmus-remote -p
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>>62793184
>>62793201
opens cmus in terminal but does NOT start playing either.
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>>62793215
I trust benchmarks, not guesswork.
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why should anyone install linux when you have the same with wsl on windows?
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>>62793241
GNU/Linux*
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>>62793217
this:>>62793234

I tried to find a solution via google but couldn't find a solution.
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>>62793241
>being cucked by the botnet
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how can I make my fonts look better? using xubuntu
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>>62793254
Shut your up off, Stallman
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>>62793291
how you intall xubuntu? netinstall+ DE package or dvd iso?
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>>62793303
The WSL includes 0 (zero) Linux.
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>>62793310
regular install with the iso
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how to make linux faster?
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>>62793356
install linuxcleaner(tm)
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>>62793356
define faster
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>>62793356
Just install gotta-go-fast-linux-git from the AUR
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>>62793356
remove useless recycle bins
>/bin/
>/sbin/
>/usr/local/bin
one trash bin is enough
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How can i set background color of task manager active item in plasma? Like hovered item on picrelated, but i want to have something similar on active item, because line is not enough. Is that even possible?
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>>62793466
Nothing is impossible!
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Whats the best, secure, botnet-free, autism friendly and /fglt/ approved browser setup?
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>>62793000
#!/bin/bash
xterm -e cmus &
xterm
sleep 1s && cmus-remote -p


Programs in a shell script aren't executed in order, so cmus-remote happens at the same time that the cmus terminal is opened. Since cmus hasn't been started yet (the TERMINAL has started and given a status 0, not cmus itself), cmus-remote just says "can't do anything because cmus hasn't started".

Simple solution is just to pause for a second (or less than a second -- you can use a floating point number if you want).
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>>62793508

>Browser
Firefox Nightly with tweaked about:config (https://github.com/pyllyukko/user.js/) or GNU Icecat for the lazy ones.
>Addons
uBlock Origin, uMatrix, Decentraleyes, HTTPS Everywhere

Approved by me.
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>>62793591
>Programs in a shell script aren't executed in order
That's wrong, the are, but since he put the first xterm in the background via &, they run at (nearly) the same time.
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>>62793591
I edited it to: - line 4 (deleted line 4) and it works perfectly. Thank you very much although is still don't get why because they are executed in order usually.
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>>62793684
line4=line3

I just deleted "xterm".
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>>62793636
so that is why it didn't work before?
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Books, resources to learn linux firewall? especially iptables.
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>>62793888
isnt iptables deprecated by netfilter?
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>>62793898
no
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>>62793041
DNF is the only package manager that downloads over HTTPS, so you sacrifice a little bit of speed for superior security.
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>>62793016
Their KDE spin is arguably the superior choice
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>>62789371
Welcome to the free world.
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>>62794435
Other package managers check the integrity with an pgp key.
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>>62794435
>DNF is the only package manager that downloads over HTTPS
source?
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>>62794435
apt also does this but not by default.
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>>62794586
DNF also does this, I believe all package managers do this actually. DNF is the only one that downloads via https though where as the others download via http or ftp.
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>>62794597
Read the man pages for DNF, also open up wireshark and take a look for yourself
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>>62794698
What is the point of https then?
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recently installed gallium os on my chromebook and it's been really comfy.
I'm looking into some games I can download and play in between classes, but I'm having a hard time finding torrents/downloads anywhere.

Are there any trackers (public or private) that specialize in linux games?
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>>62794802
there's a gnu/linux games thread on /t/
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>>62793904
but netfilter is supposed to replace iptables right?
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>>62794997
iptables is a user interface for the netfilter kernel subsystem.
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>>62795017
hm interesting... dunno where i got the wrong idea from
thx for clarifying
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I'm using Ubuntu 17.10 and I like it so far, I upgraded my dist and upgraded all my packages, and I'm using the Nvidia proprietary graphics drivers.

but I'm experiencing very shit performance inside the browser and with games. Screen-tearing like mad.

I checked if vsync is on, and it is. My nvidia-settings is capped at 60 hz which is good. I tried this:
nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceCompositionPipeline = On }"

but it does jack shit. Can anyone please help me? I'm using a GTX 1050 ti + i3 6100. 99% of the time this happens on every distro and it's really keeping me away from using Linux.
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How good is using shred with multiple passes to securely erase an HDD?
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>>62795253
that's literally what it's designed to do
read the manual page first though
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Rate my memes.
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>>62795253
Not 100% effective on ssds. A single pass of /dev/zero is about the best you can do in that case.
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I'm attempting to install qubes on to my brand new m.2 drive.
It sees the drive and let's me select it, but it says "autopart failed: requested for LUKS device nvme0n1p2 but no encryption key specified for this device"
But when I continue out of that spoke it still has [!], And says "error checking storage configuration"

I'm not all that good at Linux, so please give simpler solutions if you know what I should be doing. If it matters, I have done nothing with the m.2 other than plug it in and run the qubes installer off a USB DVD drive
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>>62795381
Meet alien lolis.
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>>62793064
didn't work on my machine. I think i'll downgrade to windows 7 again
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>>62795381
>>62795400 (checked)
The only thing I'm seeing in googling is to make sure it isn't a dynamic partition? I have windows on my older drive which I can pop back in. Do I just use partition wizard or something to fix this?
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>>62794586
GPG* aka GNU Privacy Guard*
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>>62794435
Meanwhile on debian you have https and tor.
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>>62795316
you can just leave an ssd long enough and it will wipe itself
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Anyone experiences with Devuan Ceres (unstable)? Is it as comfy as Debian Sid?
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>>62787478
Hello friends

I have an issue I was hoping someone could help me diagnose. It's annoying

Sometimes, my ethernet drops connection on my desktop PC, even though the network is working on every other device. It's as if I've disconnected the cable physically for it, which I haven't. The solution is simple: I just disable Wired connection on networkmanager, and then re-enable it, and it instantly works again.

I have included the logs showing this behavior in this pastebin, could someone help me out to see if they can spot the problem? Because I can't so far

Connection gets dropped at 12:41, I disable and re-enable at 12:44.

https://pastebin.com/Mdv0x303

Thank you to anyone that takes a look and lets me know their thoughts
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>>62795878
https://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-137301.html

A comment suggests that maybe another device is being assigned the same IP as your desktop.
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>>62793636
>>62793728
The main issue is that cmus-remote needs to wait just a teensy bit after cmus is started in order for it to work. It's why even >>62793184 didn't work.
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>>62796109
Thanks a lot lad, will look into it
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>>62795148
Could be distribution specific, which distribution are you using? Sounds like a Fedora issue
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How can I make Firefox (top) render text like Chromium?
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>>62795878
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>>62795681
not all pgp implementations are gnu
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>>62796227
GPG literally stands for GNU Privacy Guard.
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>>62796245
learn to read.
PGP = pretty good privacy
GPG = gnu privacy guard
PGP is a standard, GPG is an implimentation
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>>62796227
Show me a package manager using nonfree PGP.
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>>62796245
he said pgp key, referring to the openpgp standard, not a single implementation
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>>62796245
it's just pgp, also it's just linux
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>>62796270
all you need is a gpg to pgp wrapper
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>>62796215
w-what did i do to upset you
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>>62796258
I wasn't arguing with you friend, I was just saying that GPG stands for GNU Privacy Guard. I shouldn't have said anything
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>>62796270
DNF uses proprietary pgp for their stable package signing, but I'm pretty sure 'updates' packages are GPG now?
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>>62796270
DNF uses proprietary pgp for their stable package signing, but I'm pretty sure 'updates' packages are GPG now?
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>>62796328
Literally who is using dnf?
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>>62796329
>>62796328
ur breddy guud
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>>62796353
Employed persons.
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>>62796283
>GNU #BTFO heh
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What are some cool terminal commands?
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I'm trying to set up a really basic samba file share on my home network. The problem is I'm trying to share an external drive because the main drive of the server is too small to share on. I can get the server to show up on the network, and the folder I want to share is visible but I can't get access to the folder no matter how I set the permissions. If I try to share a folder on the main drive, everything works normally.
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>>62796463
man console_codes
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>>62796463
zopflipng
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>>62796463
man tree
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>>62796463
$ firejail firefox
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>>62796478
saved
>>62796486
is it better than optipng?
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Looking for a lightweight distro to run on a computer with 2gb ram and a dual core processor (2.6 ghz). Any recommendations?
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>>62794435

I haven't checked others but I download from https Arch mirrors. So much about your claim.
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>>62795086
>>62793898

Iptables is deprecated by nftables.
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>>62796554
lubuntu
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>>62796377
1 person
n people, for n > 1
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>>62796545
better is subjective. it's slower but generally gives smaller compression
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>>62796554
debian, dont fall for the *ubuntu crap
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>>62796579
Thanks.
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Something is fucking up firefox.

After while of running it, I can't upvote, downvote or reply on reddit, for instance.

I don't know if it's affecting something else. What can be causing it? I'm using Fedora's latest release and I'm up to date.
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>>62796571
so which one is it? its deprecated or not? citations?
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>>62796611
it's probably doing you a favor if it doesnt let you work reddit properly
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>>62796579
I AM THE PEOPLE!
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>>62796609
youre welcome
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>>62796617

Open the web search engine you use, type in these keywords and find out.

iptables nftables deprecated
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>>62796624
I totally agree. I've been stopped from replying to inane comments so many times I'm trying to simulate it in real life.

However, I'm worried that it's fucking some other functionalities elsewhere.
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>>62796627
maybe were the same person! :o
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>>62796636
derp i read wrong... nftables != netfilter
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>>62796577
>>62796595
Thanks!
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>compile CLI program
>builds and compiles instantly, and requires only a few libraries
>compile same program with its GUI component
>takes over 10 minutes to compile, and requires 300+mb of libraries and build systems to install
>gui has less functionality than CLI
Why is the GUI menace allowed?
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>>62797208
beacuse cli is hard to use you nerd
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>>62797221
>man cli
What's the problem?
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>>62795827
>lennartd
>comfy
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>>62797208
We seriously are in need of better GUI toolkits.
And before some fuckboi tries to tell me the current popular choices are good enough, what I mean by "better" is basically what you would have if a GUI toolkit was programmed by the "old gods" who had standards, and to whom "user friendly" meant that someone who knew what they were doing could get shit done as efficiently and quickly as possible.
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>>62792643
You could accept the update and roll back to the package version you want. This is considered acceptable behavior with pacman.
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>>62797433

What's wrong with the current toolkits?
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>>62797777

No, it's not. It's exactly the same. If you do that with a library every program depending on it will fail.
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I'm about to put Kubuntu on an old laptop. Just for shits and giggles.

What other distro should I try?
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>>62797897
Oh, shit, you're right. I don't know where I got that idea. Just re-read the wiki and it says exactly what you said earlier.
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>>62797433
>programmed by the "old gods" who had standards
That's some nostalgia induced delusion right there.
Nothing was ever good.
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Guys, I fucked up and I need help.

I got amd64 and i386 architecture programs tangled up and now dpkg is not allowing me to remove the i386 one because

Removing gir1.2-ibus-1.0:i386 (1.5.14-3) ...
dpkg-query: error: --listfiles needs a valid package name but 'gir1.2-ibus-1.0' is not: ambiguous package name 'gir1.2-ibus-1.0' with more than one installed instance

Use --help for help about querying packages.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/py3clean", line 210, in <module>
main()
File "/usr/bin/py3clean", line 196, in main
pfiles = set(dpf.from_package(options.package))
File "/usr/share/python3/debpython/files.py", line 53, in from_package
raise Exception("cannot get content of %s" % package_name)
Exception: cannot get content of gir1.2-ibus-1.0
dpkg: error processing package gir1.2-ibus-1.0:i386 (--remove):
subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
dpkg-query: error: --listfiles needs a valid package name but 'gir1.2-ibus-1.0' is not: ambiguous package name 'gir1.2-ibus-1.0' with more than one installed instance


How can I tell dpkg to ignore the amd64 version of the package in order for it to be able to read the i386 version as a valid package name?
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>>62798122

>removing girl

Gays, will they ever learn?
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>>62798193
anon pls
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>>62798122
What's the actuall command you ran?
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Is it true that ubuntu copied macbook? And linux torbald is an autist?
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>>62798278
Description:
I wanted to compile this https://github.com/KoKuToru/koku-xinput-wine so I figured I'd install the sdl2:i386 libraries

libsdl2-mixer-dev:i386 libsdl2-image-dev:i386 libsdl2-gfx-dev:i386 libsdl2-mixer-2.0-0:i386 libsdl2-dev:i386 libsdl2-doc libsdl2-ttf-dev:i386 libsdl2-net-2.0-0:i386 libsdl2-net-dev:i386 libsdl2-image-2.0-0:i386 libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 libsdl2-gfx-1.0-0:i386 libsdl2-ttf-2.0-0:i386 


Then I had the error with gir1.2:i386 and other packages being broken, so I realized I fucked up. I tried to backpedal and fix it by removing them, but gir1.2:i386 was already unremovable because of the dpkg error in >>62798122

Basically it is confusing gir1.2 with gir1.2:i386 because they seem to have the same name to dpkg, so it doesn't know which one to uninstall.
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>>62798122
py3clean seems to pass the exact package string given to it straight to dpkg -L so if you use eg gir1.2-ibus-1.0:i386 (note the achitecture on the end) it should work...
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>>62798372
No you are confused. gir1.2 is ambiguous, gir1.2:amd64 is not.
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>>62798373
Where should I pass that to pyclean? When I try to remove gir1.2-ibus-1.0:i386 dkpg just strips it of the architecture tag, causing the ambiguity

>>62798385
This is true, but I'm not really having the issue of wanting to remove amd64's
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>>62798444
>Where should I pass that to pyclean?
Open /usr/bin/pyclean and replace the call to main() at the bottom of the file with a call to sys.exit(0)
;)
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>>62798444
>dpkg strips ibus gir1
like a real man
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>>62798600
>>62798518
>>62798444
>>62798385
>>62798373
>>62798372
>>62798278
>>62798266
>>62798193
>>62798122
YES I fixed it

I went into the gir1.2 prerm's in /var/lib/dpkg/info and edited them to directly specify them to use :amd64 and :i386 respectively. Worked like a charm!
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>>62798734
yay
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>>62798734
>prerm
Yeah I saw that, looks like a multiarch bug in the debhelper script that generates them.
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All that said - since it seems I won't be compiling https://github.com/KoKuToru/koku-xinput-wine ...

Any of you guys have some nifty solution for getting X360 controllers to be picked up by Wine? [spoiler]I really want to play Cuphead.[/spoiler]
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>>62798807
Heh, I forgot [spoiler] isn't universal, silly me
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>>62798823
haha yeah silly one friend!
but it's ok we're forgiving here at g ok?
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>>62798860
Thank you friend you're very nice
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>>62798734
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=770265
Reported Nov 2014, reassigned to dh-python package a year ago.
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>>62798986
Announcing reports is against the rules.
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>>62799009
rules are made to be broken
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what distro is comfy?
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>>62799101
The one I'm using is super comfy
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k how do i fix the italic font rendering in fontconfig wat am i doing wrong here
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>>62799101
GuixSD
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NEW: >>62799229
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>>62799175
What's wrong with it? Looks italic to me
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>>62799175
whats to fix here?




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