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Do you miss the old web?
What do you miss about it?
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>YouTube is now the "old web"
I want all the Gen Zers to leave
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>old web
>posts picture of new web
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>>62839995
I certainly don't miss having to have flash, java, shockwave, unity 3D, and whatever else plugins just to use more than half the web. On the other hand, there was a tradeoff the older web was far less infested with social media trash and not everything had to be about politics
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>>62839995
I miss YouTube looking like that, not having your real name forced into usage, memes that originated from people and not companies, when people barely talked about politics and money, and when you came to the net to get away from daily life, not to extend it.

Also these
>>62840013
>>62840020
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Pages that had a million different things taking forever to load used to be considered bad
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Well thought out high-utility desktop-oriented page layout instead of scalable mobile shit with shitton of unused space and infinite scrolling.
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I miss people using the semantic features of HTML 4.01, and I miss browsers supporting those features.
Lets say you had a story or textbook of multiple chapters. This is chapter 5:
<LINK rel="Next" rev="Prev" href="chapter06.html">
<LINK rel="Prev" rev="Next" href="chapter04.html">

This let your browser simply go to the "next page" and "previous page" automatically.
>>62840021
Flash and Java come after the old web.
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>>62840021
>flash, java
Beats the fuck ton of JS shit on every site for no good reason (except those horrible all done in flash sites of course)

I used to browse using a 486, it was about as fast as it is now with a modern computer.
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>>62840048
There's no fucking way JS is slower than fucking Flash.
t. Someone who despises JS webdevs
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>>62840065
It's because the JS also heavily interacts with the DOM. Flash uses fairly simple vector graphics, not a complex layout format.
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>>62840021
>unity3d
Literally when was this a big thing?
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>>62840013

fpbp and /thread
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>>62840026
>when people barely talked about politics and money

You were just a kid, stop trying to rewrite the past
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>>62839995
>anything post-2000
>new
are you also playing retro games on your gamecube, newfag?
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>>62840013
no u
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anything other than text and images need to get OUT OUT OUT
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>>62839995
That's not old web. Maybe if you mentioned BBS or AOL, then yes. But not 2007.
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>>62840020
>>62840013
>>62840798
>>62840882
You guys are either not paying attention or are trying too hard to look cool if you don't realize there have been multiple ages that have passed since those days.
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>>62839995
Someone made a project site where youtube videos played on the old youtube CSS.
Haven't found it since.
Where did it go?
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>>62839995
>old web
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I don't miss the old web because every website was unencrypted, Internet access was billed by the hour and it took multiple days to download crappy MPEG-1 rips of TV shows with 56k modems
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>>62840021
>not everything had to be about politics
DO YOU EVEN REMEMBER BUSH
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>>62840882
>BBS
>AOL
>Old web
underages get the fuck out
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That youtube was shit. i DO NOT miss flash. & it wasnt even the first video streaming service. Also the site we're on is older than that kek.

There's nothing to miss about old web either way. Not even old internet.
>>62840043
it was so confusing
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>>62840861
>web browser supporting images
wtf is this bloat just use an external program
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>>62839995
I miss it not being full of dumb kids all the time.
Plus I miss the lack of policing. Everything has laws around it now.
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Fun fact: The very first website is still online under its original URL
http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html
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>>62841410
>I miss it not being full of dumb kids all the time.
Are you sure?
I posted on Usenet in 1993 as a dumb 12 year old.
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>>62841350
The Internet existed before the WWW, ya dunce
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>>62841437
I never said there were no kids. I said it wasn't full of them. Now everything is so easy that some 8 year old can infest whatever they want.
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>>62841315
Think he meant identity politics
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>>62839995
That's about 2007-ish. How did you get it to play video? Did you use flash?
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>>62839995
I miss when the web was something exclusive for nerds and hobbyists
Now that it's widely available it's turned into mostly trash and politics
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>>62839995
>old youtube
So good, i wan't to die so much.
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>>62841933
When geocities was your social media page and you chatted on AIM instead of texting on your phone
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>>62842003
>AIM
>not ICQ
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>>62842003
Why AIM instead of IRC?
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>>62842050
No one used that
>>62842050
That was for finding CS pugs
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>>62842169
Everyone used ICQ.
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>>62842003
When messaging over the internet became a thing it was a godsend, I remember sms costing something like today's equivalent of 0.20€ each.
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>>62842169
>No one used that
lol wat

>tfw id with 3 digits.
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>>62839995
remember when you could just press the favorite button and it would be favorited? And then the favorites page would be easy to navigate through?
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>>62842191
>>62842235
Yes, I get it, people used it. Even I did, but in my little bubble, it wasn't remotely as popular as AIM.
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>>62842246
It's called a bookmark.
Browsers still have that.
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>>62839995
back when having 300 views on your video ment something
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I miss when google didn’t arbitrarily exclude things they consider to be wrong think
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>>62839995
I don't think anyone misses the old web. It's the memories we had when the old web existed, discovering things, staying up late, etc.
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>>62839995
>"old web"
> posts pic of post-google youtube

Holy. Fucking. Shit. OP.

You could have at least gone back before Internet Exploder was invented. Or, is that before your mommy was born?
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Clinton cat on whitehouse and such is old web to me.
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>>62842960
do you want a trophy?
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>Durrr not old enough
KYS fagget hipsters
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>>62839995
I miss that going to the web was an adventure in itself, where it was like a trip to Disneyland. It was a place to go and disconnect
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>>62842972
I'd rather have my virginity back.
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>>62839995
>ratings that meant something
>comment ratings that meant something
>related vids that were related and not clickbate shit
>video responses
>community
>not pictured but you could customize your channel page and shit

Holy shit man... forgot how much i missed old youtube.
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>>62839995
miss the time when an ad was just a static banner and not malware trying to infest me with tracking cookies and bitcoin miners
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>>62839995
I miss when 4chan was good
It's too politically correct now, can't even call someone a nigger without being banned
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Mothafukkin' Myspace Custom CSS!!!1!1!

every bitch had to have the most eye-raping profile page and there were a good number of "dark as muh soul" profiles with tiny fonts fags.
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>>62839995
Post some old youtube videos:
https://youtu.be/8CKjNcSUNt8
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>>62843625

lol edgy nigger, you just proved your coolness level now
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>>62839995
Some ways I do some I don't. Nostalgia goggles are retarded
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>>62839995
lack of normies, greed, politics and other cuckoldry
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>>62839995
The thing I miss the most was the web before *you* were on it.
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00-10 internet was the best. It managed to bridge the gap between the adventurous community spirit of pre-00, but internet speeds were picking up making it far more pleasurable to use.

Though I do miss the anime and video game fansites... They had a particular aesthetic that it's hard to describe, with lots of split and cropped images arranged by tables.
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>>62839995
I miss how innocent and fresh it was especially the early 4chan years.
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>>62844087
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>>62844124
Innocent in the meaning of how new and childish it was of course there were things like nigger tits and the like.
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>>62842960
At least it was better than post-Google Plus YouTube where there's clickbait, "dank meme" compilations and fidget spinner videos.
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>ITT: 10 internet years ago isn't old

>>62839995
Negative comments on youtube.
Filtered out the retarded kids.

Also the niche escapism of it all.
You find somewhere comfy and anyone who doesn't comply can get the fuck out.
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Hobbyist nature, now everyone expects money for their effort instead of just doing it because you like it. Everything needs monetary payback now or else they'll stop doing that thing
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>>62839995
That Youtube layout looks lot better than whatever garbage it is now tbbh.
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>>62839995
People not putting their real names on the web
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>>62839995
It wasn't owned, ran, or powered by Google. We're fucked now.
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>>62839995

usenet disucssion groups
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>>62843955
>Though I do miss the anime and video game fansites... They had a particular aesthetic that it's hard to describe, with lots of split and cropped images arranged by tables.
i sure as fuck don't and i still grimace at the fact that I will still find my old posts from a decade ago if i google my old online handle
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I remember a little of life before Google. It was a lot harder to find what you were looking for but it could be a lot more fun too. Yahoo was absolute shit for finding what you needed right away, but it could lead you to a webring that would eventually allow you to stumble on what you were looking for and you would also find a lot of other interesting stuff along the way. Now, Google gives you what you want immediately (assuming their censors don't bury the content on page 25) and it's harder to discover new things if you don't deliberately set out to look for them. The Internet also seems a lot more sanitized and it's more than just extremist politics and porn being buried, walled off in its own corner, or outright censored.

>>62840026
>>62847663
I remember being told to never put real names anywhere on the Internet for safety. I always used a fake name on the Internet until I got a LinkedIn, Monster, and Dice profile. All my other profiles online are still fake names. When I do a search on my name, I thought only my profiles would turn up, but I found several people with my exact name in Poland, Germany, Buffalo, Chicago, and Baltimore, so I'm still pretty anonymous, given the others with my name are the type to just put theirs anywhere.

>>62841315
I don't remember it being this militant, nasty, and pervasive in the 2000s. Yes, blind hatred and love of Bush was easy to find. People could still have discussions though and I don't remember either side wanting to go out of its way to dox or seriously hurt anyone the way people do now. I first started noticing a change around 2013 (probably because of the Adria Richards thing) where people just got nasty and people started walling themselves off from any dissenting views and, should a view we didn't like somehow find its way in our timeline, it becoming a contest to see how well we can use the Internet to totally ruin someone's life.
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> Netscape 1.0
> Altavista.com
> find how to cook C4 without any honeypot

So much memory
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If you miss the camaraderie and randomness of the early Internet, NeoCities is a thing. Heck, I made a thread about it two days ago.
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>>62841947
>wan't
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Remember before YouTube back when video on the internet was more of a novelty than anything.
Took like 3 minutes to buffer even with "high speed" broadband and it was so compressed that sometime you had to wonder what you were looking at.
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>>62839995
>ATDT the BBS number
>5 people online
>Get busy signal
>Can't check on my Tradewars game

MFW
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>>62849107
omg... hacker!
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>>62839995
When Flash animation was considered an art form.
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>>62839995
Back when I first used the internet, it was just a thing for me to look up stuff related to my interest, like anime and games. But now instead of multiple geocities/angelfire/tripod/etc fansites and websites with tip/tricks/cheat codes, it's all boorus and wikias now.

https://my.mixtape.moe/hprluk.mp4
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>old web
That's a funny way to spell Gopher.

>>62849107
>not auto-redialing from your dialing list until connected
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geocities
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What are you talking about, mom is on the phone
,we don't have internet.
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>>62852173
Fucking telix. I remember that shit
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>>62848909
Make another thread and link me to it
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>>62847931
Usenet is part of the internet but not the web. I do love the non-web internet, too, though.
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>>62839995
I miss the days when being anonymous was a must, before social media infested everything.
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Even the MEMORY of old web is taken over by "le aesthetic" hipster nu-males. I don't love or miss anything anymore.
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>>62853913
>old web layouts
>tables and frames
>new "old" web layouts
>9MB of JS to make it look retro, man!
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>>62843111
What, why
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Not needing ad blockers
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>>62839995
There were no appletard subhumans on it.
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>>62839995
The old web didn't have YouTube or other tubular streaming sites.
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>>62840021
>I certainly don't miss having to have flash, java, shockwave
I do, you could disable those and the rest of the page was still usable and you could enable those selectively.
Now you disable JS and/or CSS, there's nothing to use on the page anymore.
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>>62843625
Are you from the future, or are you just being a nigger?
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>>62854237
What the fuck are you going on about
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>>62854876
>dat graphic design
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>>62843625
I'm more pissed about how everyone has to act retarded on purpose so they'll get the epic screencap, ironic shitposting was a big mistake
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I don't. It was clunky, slow, and it was harder to find information. These days I have all the information I want on demand at fast speeds. The Internet is getting better and better.
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>>62839995
Actually I miss Google video more than jewtube. It worked better and was leaner.
But I agree with most people that flash is crap and I'm glad it's getting killed off by HTML5 (all though I would be happier if webM got more mainstream love).
JS is cancer and should be burned on a stake...
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>>62841269
I need this too
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Why do I see this thread everyday?
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>>62855552
Nostalgiafags are always nostalgic
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>>62839995
the style
the people
things were made to be good, and not to milk shekels
things weren't made to push agendas/propaganda
things were made efficiently and the faults weren't blamed on poor hardware for their failures
THERE WEREN'T TWO BILLION POOJEETS SPAMMING EVERY DECENT WEBSITE WITH THEIR RELENTLESS FAGGOTRY UNTIL DECENCY WAS BLOWN OUT OF EXISTENCE
fuck.
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>>62839995
Comunitree
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>>62853392

Fair point.
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>>62839995
no need for a 50 gigaFLOPS processor to load javascript pages
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>>62839995
The simplicity.
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>>62854953
Just another deleterious result of normalfags craving social media and finding out about 4chan.
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>old web
That new thing called YouTube
Ridiculous. But I know when I'm not wanted.
You can lick the web 2.0 bullshit all you want in here. I'm happy you're not gonna poison the rest of the world for a while.
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>>62840121
Kids used to play a lot of flash-game equivalents online with that. It's basically been 3D flash since it started and eventually it grew into a game engine people took seriously. Very funny.
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>>62854876
Maybe he's talking about how the apple kept its users off the web for a while with Appletalk.
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I miss 4chan when it was just a community to talk about various shit and memes weren't all over the place and it wasn't infested with politics. It was just a chill place to talk about tech and video games.
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>>62855552
Every day is repost day, faggot
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>>62839995
I'm sick of these fagware friendly UI's. I'm into the modern look myself, but all these things on Computers that belong on Tablets and Phones is stupid.
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Why would I miss waiting for images to load and using hypertext for fucking everything?
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>>62854953
I am 100% sure savvy posters on /pol/ devised their OP and their shitpost to bait with so their post gets read.

Like you'll see Trump is so good!
Then within the first 3 posts you'll see "I am a commie liberal and Trump is the dumbest soanso ever and I think 5 year olds should get sex changes" then this post gets 20 you's and away we go.
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https://wiby.me/

This search engine is for active web 1.0 pages type pages. I miss how simple web pages were, and they had a lot of character unlike the polished smooth sterile look that modern pages have with a backing of like 5mb of css and javascript.
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>>62863482
>https://wiby.me/?q=tenchi+muyo
It's all coming back to me
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>>62858773
Appletalk is a LAN protocol. It had no impact on whether you could dial up to the net.
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>>62841291
>old jeb
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>>62863482
HOLY SHIT I CLICKED SURPRISE ME AND CONCRETE ENEMAS ARE REAL

https://www.well.com/user/cynsa/cement.html
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>>62839995
The only thing I miss about the old web (as in, predating web 2.0 and social media) is the feeling of discovery and cameraderie. The internet wasn't just an ordinary part of our lives, everyone on it treated it like the miracle it was. We were so excited to finally get to share our interests and personalities without being chained down to the expectations of everyday society.

Once communities became consolidated, things changed a lot. I don't know how to describe it, but the magic isn't there anymore. Nobody is wowed by the ubiquitous access to media so nobody cherishes it.
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>>62863482
>surprise me

http://users.ox.ac.uk/~worc0337/other_index.html

Damn I miss pages like this
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>>62863482
>http://shrek.rip/
what
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>>62839995

Yes, I missed when websites weren't crawling with shitty memory-hogging and CPU-hogging ads.

Web designers actually gave a shit about performance and layout of their sites.

It is now all about cramming as many ads as possible.
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>>62839995
>Tricky Dick
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>>62854041
wizardry
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I want to rate yt videos with stars again, I want to download music via bearshare and I want emule and edonkey back.

Also I want all those hipster faggots to leave the internet immediately, it's no place for them. The internet always was the place for the outcasts, for the people with no as they call it "normal" interests, so why the fuck should we want them in our place when they were back then against this and fucked with us because we were "too long" in front of the screen and shit.

I am so sick about this fucking evolution of the internet, it went to fucking shit and there are no sign of that getting better.

We need to fucking kill all humans to get the good internet back.
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Old web was fucking shit there was nothing but emo teens, pedophiles and dads trying to be hip. The websites were cool but fuck that internet speed and those crt screens were so fucking bulky and fuck those beeping noises. OP you are just a kid who wishes he was born in the 90s
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>>62867355
Imagine if a bunch of real nerds would team up and start to go in strictly normie place like bars then start playing chess and D&D and asking the DJ to play some D&D ambient music.
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>>62867394
You remember the ISDN modem sound when connecting to the internet?

I miss this shit every day, I hear it in my head all the time when starting my machine.

>>62867408
Can't be true because real nerds dont go into hipster bars
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>>62867429
They'd do it on purpose to piss of normies so they know what it feels like to suck the fun off their hobbies.
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>>62863482
Nice engine

http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/huge/
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>>62863482
Gold
http://www.angelfire.com/trek/caver/page1.html
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>>62842003

>AIM
>Not ICQ

newfags pretending to be old. Is that what's hot in the skreets?
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>>62848986

jesus... How young are you faggots???!!!

Is there not one among you that remembers Real Player and watching streaming video on shit like Atom Films or some live camwhore site where not having ISDN or what passed for "broadband" back then meant waching video so blocky it made Aari 2600 graphics look like a PSOne?
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>>62842003
>>62851604
>>62852195
>geocities

>Not The Globe

I can't be the only one that had a site over on TheGlobe.com.
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being the age I was when I browsed "the old web"
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>>62865213

because the new internet is all about making money. The old internet had information out there for free, usually on a geocities/angelfire/tripod/theglobe site where you were just happy to share something cool you learned. I miss those days.
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>>62868434

Only this.

People seems to find joy in their nostalgia but I only see sadness because it reminds me of all the time wasted since and I'm older now
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>>62867394

old web was awesome.
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>>62839995
I sometimes miss the aesthetics of websites and UIs somewhere around 2007-8. Maybe that is because I used Windows Vista until 2013 and am on a 2 MBit connection still, which doesn't allow me to experience 2017s internet like it is meant to be.
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>>62868412
>>62868819
Born 1994. I feel very old now.

I remember how I used Myvideo when Youtube became a thing, in my country it was better and more popular. Myvideo is completely dead now. Youtube turned into pure shit.

Same with Xfire. It was everything that Steam is now, but its dead.
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>>62868807

you see time wasted, I see time well used. There was a lot to learn on the old web, ad you could do it without the distractions of 3452705 ads bringing your broswer, if not your pc, to a crawl.

I remember a company I worked at had Pentium Pro 200 based HP Vectras running NT4.0 with 64MB RAM each. Back then that was a lot of memory and we all had it. However, javascript or just java could bring those machines to their knees whereas my Cyrix 200MX+ w/48MB RAM worked just fine with those same sites. Never understood it but because of it I always believed Java and Javascript to be evil.
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>>62840041
this, fuck mobile device based internet (and console based gaming while we're at it)
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Forgot pic
>>62868434
Everyone has their own 'special' age
Mine was when I was around 14-16, I had this large desk and my shitty HP Pavilion. I never cared about upgrading it, it ran on 2 GB RAM and a HD2400 Pro, which let me play CoD4 in 1024 x 768 with about 25 - 40 FPS.

I used to watch my animals while things loaded because my PC was horribly slow.
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>>62868837
I don't consider "mobile gaming" as real gaming. Yes if you play ported old titles, but no if this means Candy Crush, Bubble blaster or whatever this is called
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>>62863482
Ok, who is this?
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>>62840041
>>62868837
refdesk.com if you want a still useful in 2017 page with a historical layout
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>>62839995
Good old days when everything is usable with text based programs, mutt, tin, w3m, irssi, etc from my 3rd world internet
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>>62863994
Without lan you won't reach the net.
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>>62852829
>Not having computer enthusiast parents and 4 landlines.
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>>62864503
>lynx button
>click it
>dead link
>remove a part so it's lynx.org
>get this

It's a never-ending tunnel of Old.

>>62863788
Make sure to wget these pages down. I've had so many I've put off doing that and then found them gone and no archive of them at all.
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>>62871398
Damn it. forgot my image.
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Talking about the old web, I really miss text files. About the only place I see them in the wild these days is on GameFAQs and even they're moving more towards HTML now.
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>>62868830
>Born 1994. I feel very old now.
Fuck right off, wait until you're actually old, it only gets worse and worse.
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>there newfags that are born in the 90s and didn't come here in 2003-2005 during the golden era.
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>>62840013
what did zer mean by this
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>>62867355
aMule is still regularly updated, and runs on everything. I still use it for rare files.
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>>62871805
I miss guro.
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>>62871782
Yes, thats why I don't even want to think about it.

Imagine, there are people getting 18 now who never used Windows 98 and XP and were raised with smartphones. It feels like I am the survivor of a primitive post-war era.
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>>62871939
And don't miss out the feeling of using single-core processors and the knowledge of the fact that there wasn't anything better when you used these in old ages.
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>>62871697
>text files

lol how can you browse them on phones? get with the times old man :P
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>>62839995
It didn't have these stupid threads appearing every few days
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>be older than "the web"
>Miss the true old web where it was just people with intelligent things to discuss, or email lists and BBS boards for specific hobbies
>Starts becoming a little popular in the 90s, but it's okay because most of the popularity is walled gardens like AOL keeping the normies out
>Late 90s to early 00s, broadband becomes affordable and normies storm the gates.
>Retreat to a handful of hidden places like Talkers and MU* to evade them
>Smartphones happen, and a whole generation that lives their every moment on the web happens. Their every vapid impulse and entitled opinion plastered across any form of media they can find
>Still hiding in my secret places, /g/ being the most normie place i go

Feels fucking terrible man. I really fucking hate the internet today. The places I hang out have basically turned into the same discussions with the same people every day, with most of us making brave ventures into the world wide wasteland for nuggets of new information to bring back to the bunker to sustain the other survivors in our old web digital holdouts.
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>>62848825
Free cracks and pirated stuff without malware
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>>62840013
>The clock keeps ticking
Oh no.
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>>62869283
Dude! This is cool!
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>>62873157
The web isn't even a suitable name any more, it's more a bicycle wheel, where you can be on the rim as long as you like, but all roads lead to the centre.

I've been getting into Gopher lately because of the cancerousness of the modern web.

What's sad though is when you rediscover an old site you knew and end up seeing the last post was years ago, even worse on forums is the question "is anyone else still here?"

So many dead sites. Just sat there forgotten on some obscure host's rack. I wonder how long Angelfire and Tripod have left?
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>>62871939
Yeah, I know what you mean. I keep meeting people who never used MS-DOS or experienced the joys of being given shareware disks. They were like the Humble Bundle of the 90s. Used to play the shit out of Descent and Ultima Underworld.
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>>62839995
yes
freedom
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>>62872920
There's plenty of shit for phones to open text files. They're plenty useful for modern use too.
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>>62839995
Less brown people. The decline of the internet is a microcosm of the decline of Western society.
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>>62873335
It scared me when I started seeing people saying whites were created by a black mad scientist a thousand years ago in an experiment to genetically engineer pure evil and then I looked into it and they were serious, there's an actual fucking religion with that as a central tenet
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>>62873394
Yes the world has dumb people in it.
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>>62840065
flash is a lot better then webgl shit,
everything i have seen using webgl is a massive resource hog using a shitton of memory and cpu to do fraction of what flash could do with the same resources.
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>>62843955
>Though I do miss the anime and video game fansites... They had a particular aesthetic that it's hard to describe, with lots of split and cropped images arranged by tables

This exactly, it's a look/feel that's hard to describe but pops up a lot when thinking about other things from the 2000's. Geocities-esque doesn't quite capture it.
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>>62844087
Silly as "innocent" and "4chan" seem in the same sentence, there was zaniness to mid-2000's internet that's not really there now.

The difference between "old" and new internet is that in the former everyone calls you a faggot for no reason, while now you only get called a faggot sometimes but they're doing it as part of some crusade.
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>>62852829
>mom was a webmaster so she had a cable connection early on
>dad and older brother still used dial-up, used dad's computer when I wanted to do internet stuff young (like downloading Shockwave to play Nick.com games)
>didn't get wi-fi until I think 2007, neither did a lot of people since Nintendo sold pic related to play Mario Kart DS online

It's fucking weird thinking about how recent widespread broadband+wifi is.
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>>62873687
Old internet used to be off its nut now I think about it. I mean, Animutation was absolutely bullshit.
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>>62873687
FUCK, TAKE ME BACK ALREADY!
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>>62863482
lol
http://marc.cleave.me.uk/cpu/index.htm
>Titan - The 8 bit TTL Processor
That's pretty cool
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>>62863482
best shit ever
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>>62868830
>Born 1994. I feel very old now.

My oldest daughter was born in '94.
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>>62852173
Good thing there's still some gopher holes. If it somehow had won out over http it'd be just as bloated and shit today.
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>>62863482
gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/

Go down the gopher's hole!
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>>62873989
If you liked that, have some of 6502.org/users/dieter/mt15/mt15.htm
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>>62871950

Yes there was: Dual processor machines. Of course you could only use those with Windows NT4 or Linux, but there was an option. I've owned a number of dual proc machines and I still have one left: A dual Athlon MP 1.2GHz box that runs NetBSD. I've had dual Pentium machines (133MHz, ASUS motherboard), dual Pentium Pro (IBM PC365 w/dual PPro 200's, upgraded to PPro200/1M, then a pair of PPro Overdrive processors, dammit I miss that machine!), and a dual P3 that I built.
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>>62873923
That /v/ Musical set to Photograph gets to me and I hate that.
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>>62868352
Why on earth is there a 9gag logo on this?
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>>62874182
I've been thinking about setting up a gopherhole on sdf.org, more just because I've been playing with nroff plaintext formatting lately.
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>>62873259
>What's sad though is when you rediscover an old site you knew and end up seeing the last post was years ago, even worse on forums is the question "is anyone else still here?"

This just happened to me some months ago. Sonicstate had a forum for musicians that was rather lively back in the 90's and early 2000's called The Gas Station. As the years progressed, the posts slowed down and a number of forum areas died off leaving the only traffic to a single subforum. I logged in again some months ago and was surprised that my login even worked and even more so that the section was there seeing as how they removed the link to it from the front page. One last thread with one or to posts saying "is anyone still here?" and maybe one or two people chiming in. Sonicstate finally pulled the plug on The Gas Station and wiped it out completely not long after I and a couple of others made similar posts.
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>>62874457
I'm actually writing a phlog post about these digital ghost-towns. A good source of links to them are various barely-living textboards, where the only conversations had on those almost barren sites is about other sites in an even worse state.

I think the whole reason I've stayed online (on a dwindling number of sites) is because I've been secretly hoping for a revival of that lost subculture, and sensation of exuberant youth, like Boomers who go to Rolling Stones concerts to feel again how they felt when seeing them in the 70s.
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>>62874349

first pic I found of the old-school ICQ logo in google search. Didn't even notice the 9gag logo until you pointed it out.
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>>62874521

what's sad about Sonicstat pulling th eplug on their forum is that there was a shitton of valuable information on old synths there and now all of it is gone. I checked the wayback machine and while the surface of the forum was archived the posts themselves weren't and even then that only goes back to 2010. The best of TGS happened way before that and none of it was archived anywhere.
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>>62840021
>the older web was far less infested with social media trash and not everything had to be about politics
Fucking this.

I particularly miss Invisionfree boards, where discussions almost never got political and members cared about each other like family. Nowadays, you would be lucky to find a subreddit that has a closely-knit community, much less anything of the sort on social media. The only sites on the modern web that even vaguely resemble old forum communities would be those small imageboards with only ~20 regular users, which are pretty comfy but aren't necessarily trying to be (it's only because of their lack of people; if 4chan ever got taken down, those places would get shat up very quickly).
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>>62874675
I think this is what worries me about the present incarnation of the web: it's all so hard to save should someone wish it not to be. I remember a picture of Tim Berners-Lee's computer (the first web server) with a sticker saying not to turn it off or it'll be unreachable. The nature of BBSs towards the end (pulling down and pushing up), and printing at the start, has ensured what was on them and traded on them will remain. Forum posts, and the information within them, were never indented to be repositories of information (neither, by the way is YouTube and Facebook today), even though people treat it that way.

If we're going to have any hope for the future in regard to the information we're trading and creating we're going to have to rethink the format that it is presented and traded in.
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>>62874684
>where discussions almost never got political and members cared about each other like family

The old PlanetStarsiege forum was like this. I still play Tribes with the [PSSr] tag in front of my name from time to time (Planet StarSiege Regulars). We were a very close knit community and the longtime members checked up on each other. As we got older, we posted pics of our kids and other life events on there. Shit was great.
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>>62843955
>>62873594
http://www.ff7citadel.com/
http://uffsite.net/
>Check out our new message board!
>September 26, 2013

Two of my favourite incarnations of these precise table-image arrangements.

Some Cowboy Bebop ones:
http://www.angelfire.com/hero/cbb/index.html
http://www.futureblues.com/
http://www.jazzmess.com/

And a Nadia one with is absolutely mad in its layout:
http://www.thesecretofbluewater.com/
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>What i miss
Easier to find pizza
Far, far less normies
The internet was actually a place for diverse ideas, not just "let's all agree on whats popular atm!"
"Memes" weren't popular and they were actually kind of funny, now they are a overused dumb joke for retards

>What i DON'T miss
Shitty internet speeds, for real, fuck that
Ads, and not a decent way to get rid of them (other than hosts files, but lists were shit back then and would barely work at all)
There wasn't really a lot to do
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>>62874984
I think the slow speed was a part of it. The nature of the old web wouldn't have occurred at all if we had all the modern infrastructure at the time.

>There wasn't really a lot to do
u wot m8
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>>62863482
>all those articles
>they even cite themselves between opinion and fact
When can we go back to these times of the internet being an information super highway instead of a 24/7 propaganda machine?
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>>62873157
MUCKs are virtual reality though, they serve a different niche from the web. How could you not use both?
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>>62839995

Every website was filled with ads, i remember Geocities and Lain fansites with randoms ads of Pepsi and AT&T, but nobody complain because ads pay the bills.
Adblocking ruined the web.
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>>62874984
>There wasn't really a lot to do

dafuq? There was a shitton to do back then.
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>>62875228
Only if you can somehow get the money out of it.
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http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/thestupidgene/
Remember opinions? I member
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>>62874764
Zelda fan forums were my dwelling places back in the day.

Board regulars would always be so kind to one another, it was surreal. They would treat you with respect as long as you kept coming back and contributing to threads, even if you were the worst leetspeak shitposter on the internet.
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>>62875286

The geocities ads didn't get to be that bad until after Yahoo bought them out. Before that you had a banner ad at the top or bottom of your page and that was it.
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The biggest change to my mind is that move from the urge to create content, to a compulsion to consume content. Look at Let's Players, it's a recording of someone consuming content, that you watch.
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>>62875319
>http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/thestupidgene/

>sign my guestbook

dammit I miss those days.
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>>62875742
>Geocities homepage
>gifs from top to bottom, causing a near meltdown
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>>62875743

and it's one of the cancers of the internet. I hate that it started on SA too 'cause I used to love their forums, articles, photoshop phriday, and JeffK in particular.
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>>62875796

your site sucked if it didn't have spinning CGI text gifs.
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I have said this once and I'll say it again:
Normalfaggots have ruined everything I loved. Those subhuman savages ruin everything they touch. Fucking cancerous. They are responsible.
"memes" are merely funny image macros now, redditors are everywhere, its ruined. Long gone are the days, now we have a cheap imitation done in pixels by an overweight cuckold hipster "indie".
I swear I'll ruin everything they love.I'll shove their fidget spinners right up their self diagnosed asses,I'll beat them to a pulp with their beloved game of thrones book.
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>>62839995
Being told that I won.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_2hEmGnzA
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I've been online since 1997 and for me, the internet peaked around 2006-2007. Broadband was more common, leading to easier and faster filesharing, video uploads, multiplayer gaming, etc. yet social media was still in its relative infancy, mass online spying programs were just getting started, SJWs stayed on livejournal or wherever the fuck they were, and corporate/government shilling wasn't as pervasive. Niche forums were still a thing, too. It was a good time to be on the internet.

To me, it's just been a steady decline since then.
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>>62876437
>Playback disabled outside of shekeltube
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>>62839995
I 'member
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>>62876598
Didn't know the author disabled it. Try this instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoI8Z8Dq1yY
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i got cable in 97
i think i was the first person in my neighborhood to have it
i made a pokemon website with homstead
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>>62842130
not everyone liked seeing hundreds of lines of shitposting
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>>62843625
4chan was never good

Though seriously I do miss the 03 to 05 era of 4chan in terms of xd random but I do enjoy how certain boards are reliable for useful posts now.
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>>62876637
I like how popups grew increasingly incessant and intrusive.
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Talkin to bitches on MSN
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I think one of life's little internet treasures is stumbling on a forum, newsgroup thread, or some old Yahoo groups shit you used to post back in the 90's/early 00's that you completely forgot about and seeing how you were back then versus now.
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>>62877191
B4 internet on late 80s I used to publish ads on classifieds about pirated games for Msdos, about 10$ each with a 5" disk.
I would send the list and the disks by mail.
CPUs used to run at 8mhz
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>>62876923
>no cam sign
>nobody talks to me
>cam sign
>everyone talks to me

hmmm
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>>62840026
>not having your real name forced into usage
this hasn't been the case for like 2 years now. YouTube reversed that decision. You don't even need a Google+ account anymore.
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>>62877191
I'm just glad all of the small forums I posted on dissolved and disappeared. I have no interest in confirming what a weird asshat I was at 10-16
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>>62873424
lots of republicans lol
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>>62874874
Here's an example I didn't post earlier because I didn't have the bookmark on my laptop: http://suppi.net/slg/

Not quite as "raw" as a lot of shrine sites (another example: http://www.midishrine.com/), but still the kinda thing I'm into.
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>>62840013
>>62840020
fuck off gramps
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>>62839995

>What do you miss about it?

2004-2010 4chan

Yeah it ain't old but fuck it, I miss when I could have discussions here and not have to worry about blatant baiting or shilling. Nowadays it's even worse because politics infected the entire website, creeping into places it has no fucking right being.

Some boards are still kinda usable but a lot like /v/ and /tv/ are completely unsalvageable.
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>>62878847
>implying democrats are any smarter than republicans
Let's be real. Neither political party is worth half a shit.
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>>62879708
We ought to just outright ban shills. They serve no purpose than to spread shit everywhere and remove good content from the top. A report button specifically for them would fix that in a hurry.
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Who /webtv/ here?

JOE CARTOON and HOMESTAR RUNNER were amazing. Listening to the Strong Bad album gives me so many feels

>>62879708
What sucks about 4chan now is that almost nobody makes OC. I remember in the glory days someone would post a template and you'd get a thread filled with like 200 replies of OC, and at least 10 of them would be hilarious. Nobody even tries now cause you'll only get a couple replies and people even have the audacity to criticize someone who made OC

>>62880493
in my experience "shill" just seems to mean "someone i disagree with"
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>>62880517
In my experience, shills are those fags that post the same advertising shit every day, ignoring all arguments. Garbage like "Admit it. You'd buy it if you could." and "X is 2% faster for doing Y. There's no point in buying Z anymore."

Just burn them all. They contribute nothing except the beginning of every pissing contest on /g/.
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>>62880576
those are shitposters, not shills. they aren't actually setting out to advertise a product, they're just posting a strong opinion on a controversial subject because it's an easy way to bait replies
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>>62839995
miss:
not every site was infected with 100MB of pointless, slow JS
designs didn't waste so much space
no "social" bullshit

don't miss:
pages without basic ajax functionality where every little thing needed a full page reload
frames everywhere
all kinds of shitty plugins
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>>62880458
Back to /pol/ u beta cuck.
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>>62878847
>>62880685
We have been talking about the world without faggots like you all through this thread. Fuck off cunt.
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>>62839995
Every single year we get slower and slower loading pages since Netscape was invented. Now when you look at a site it first has to load up an EC2 or other cloud crap instance, load remote fonts, load 100+ trackers and then presents you the content for a second or two until an overlay window pops up DOWNLOAD OUR APP. LIKE US ON FACEBOOK. SIGN UP TO OUR EMAIL LIST. Pure distilled fucking cancer.
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>>62879708
>Nowadays it's even worse because politics infected the entire website, creeping into places it has no fucking right being.
This right here. moot got rid of /n/ in the first place for good reason.

>but /pol/ would just spread throughout the site if it was gone. it's a containment board

IT DOESN'T CONTAIN SHIT AND OF COURSE IT WOULD FUCKING SPREAD BECAUSE YOU ALREADY GAVE THEM A PLACE TO BEGIN WITH.
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>>62840882
BBSs are a part of the Internet, but not a part of the Web.
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>>62842246
Protip:
Ctrl+D to bookmark
Ctrl+Shift+O to view all bookmarks
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>>62874764
Tribes was my shit for a couple of years. That game was ridiculously fun
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>>62873989
Also, feel free to telnet to magic-1.org
It's a computer with a CPU made entirely from TTL logic.

You probably also would be interested in this:
http://www.micronick.com/altair/
It's an Altair 8800 clone that you can access via the Internet. There's a webcam on the machine so you can watch the blinkenlights go as you play around with things.
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>>62881010
I have an ancient vetX status account on TribalWar forums from back in the day. Spent way too much time playing in early 2000s
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>>62880458
repubs are retarded though lol
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>>62839995
I mostly miss Flash as a lingua franca for everyone from the talentless hack to the masterpiece maker being a thing.

It lended itself to larger communities working with the same tools in a variety of different ways.
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>>62868412
I remember having nothing but problems with Real player.
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>>62874182
I think I took a wrong turn down the gopher's hole and ended up back where I started... but is it just me, or do things seem a little different?
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>>62869283
Damn, I can't remember the last time I accessed a gopher site. Doesn't work in normal browsers anymore without plugins. Still works in lynx, though.
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>>62839995
>What do you miss about it?
It was generally only available to richer countries and people therein.

As such it wasn't a completely degenerate shit hole like that present day web.
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Hi. Old internet guy reporting in.
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>>62840013
12 years ago is a pretty good passage of time. A lot of things have changed since then.
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>>62881034
i agree but keep that shit outta this thread

>>62881133
>>62881137
how can i into gopher? and what's the point? it's just shittier http?
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>>62881212
What's your OS?
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>>62881212
Because if it caught on again, we could change 'Google It' to 'Gopher It'
That itself is reason enough.
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>>62881212
Start here:
http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw

You can access any Gopherhole from your web browser without plugins via that proxy.

Any basically yes, "shittier" in the sense that it lacks features compared to HTTP, but I think users of the Gopherspace would argue those features have been abused on the modern Web and that they prefer the simplicity of Gopher.
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>>62881292
>Gopher it
gopher://khzae.net/s/misc/gopherit.wav

Or maybe "point your Gopher to..." (from gopher://gopher.quux.org/0/Software/Gopher/whygopher/gopher-manifesto.txt)
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>>62881296
Is there a wikipedia 'fork' in Gopherspace?
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>>62881323
gopher://gopherpedia.com
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>>62881353
:)
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>>62881353
>>62881359
gopher://gopherpedia.com/0/List%20of%20Intel%20Core%20i7%20microprocessors
It doesn't support/translate the tables :(
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>>62840013
This
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>>62881137
>Doesn't work in normal browsers anymore without plugins
And Overbite won't work temporarily due to Firefox's move to WebExtensions...

If you want to host a Gopherhole but also want people to be able to access it without special plugins/browsers or using a proxy site, try the pygopherd server. It acts as both a Gopher and HTTP server, and serves up your Gopher content over HTTP, converting the menu's to HTML.

http://gopher.quux.org is an example.
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>>62881409
https://github.com/muffinista/gopherpedia.com

I think this is their repo for it, you can probably create an issue/pull request if you know some Ruby.
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>>62880602
One way or another, that shit plugs this place up so bad.
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I miss my old IRC network.

I miss it terribly. Rest in peace m3n.
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>>62871805
tfw born in 93 and still got to 4chan in 2004

this explains a lot
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>>62863482

what a curious find

http://www.erikyyy.de/eycar/e_index.htm
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>>62881151
How did you make the menu bar smaller?
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I'm 18 and have only been here since ~2013 or 2014.

How the fuck do go back? I spend so much time reading about 4chan and the internet in general pre 2010 and it seems like it was so much more fun and lighthearted.
Are there no places left like that? It's kind of depressing reading through archives and seeing the innocent interactions between anons and then loading up 4chan today and seeing all the political bullshit that has been flooding the site.
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>>62881151
>old
>5 centimeters per second
Using XP doesn't make you old.
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>>62882069

them were the days boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq64zpcdInM
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>>62882069
i wish i knew the answer, newfag

>>62882232
tom green raids were so fucking kino
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>>62839995
I don't miss Nixon though.
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>>62841350
>He didn't mention smoke signals in trinary

Understand b&
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>>62880926
>BBS
>web
what

>>62880926
>BBSs are a part of the Internet
You could interface a BBS to the internet to provide callers with internet features like actual internet email, but this was rare and BBSes weren't really part of the internet. They don't use any internet protocol and no ISP was required to connect; you just dialed directly modem-to-modem. If a board shared information with others at all it was normally through an ad-hoc network like Fidonet.
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>>62882830
I still think that the "upload files you found elsewhere" is the best hope for the future of any semblance of a free web. The sad thing is that the format that everyone on any machine, on any connection, can share (written documents) have fallen out of favour compared to video, which means the independence of the old style (either web or pre-web the culture was the same in this regard) ties us to centralised platforms and single points of failure (and control).
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I think money is what ruined it, no one gives a shit about hobbies, interests, or communities, its all just corporate funded bullshit.
>>62854997
>>62859722
Le everything is efficiency and not the actual important aspects of it meme
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I miss fucking politics not being brought up every 10 goddamn seconds.
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>what was once a fun site filled with creative and funny people is now a den for internet cat women and ironic trolls.
It's a damn shame but all the mentally deranged trannies and power tripping mods scared most of the actual cool posters off.
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>>62880761
This pisses me off so much
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>>62881150
Yeah, having Americans in the web was a mistake. What a third world shithole
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>>62881151
The girl ins't too young anon?
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>>62880517
>What sucks about 4chan now is that almost nobody makes OC. I remember in the glory days someone would post a template and you'd get a thread filled with like 200 replies of OC, and at least 10 of them would be hilarious. Nobody even tries now cause you'll only get a couple replies and people even have the audacity to criticize someone who made OC

It's the fucking retarded crab bucket mentality that's become in vogue here. It used to be a bunch of weirdos making fun of each other cheekily but now it's legit assholes who can't stand the fact that people are having fun. Paranoia over le reddit doesn't help.
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Americans ruined the web. With their corporate bullshit and cancerous politics.
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>>62840026
>and when you came to the net to get away from daily life, not to extend it.

Fucking this
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>>62883278
>>62880761
>go to site
>just a white screen
>have to enable javascript to load
>but it wants to load 500 so you have to try and guess which one is the one that loads the stuff you want to read
>eventually get something to load
>it's a script that is designed to say it needs javascript (which wont come up if you don't have javascript hurpaderp)
>eventually get the scripts that load the site
>and for all that it's just a few KB of HTML

Or the script that loads the site also loads the autoplaying HD videos.

Now I just instantly turn 360° and walk away if that happens
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>>62840013
>>62840020

this

if you actually want to talk about the old web let's talk about it.
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>>62883311
Never underestimate the Eternal Normalfag.

Also, when did "normalfag" become "normie"?
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>>62883305
When you think of Sir Tim's dreams for the web, what we have now couldn't be any further from it.
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Describes the issue with software, the web, everything tech really, at the moment.
https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/software-development-cancer.html
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>>62883992
That's your own blog, isn't it?
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>>62884038
No? Its one of the featured review sites on DistroWatch.

If someone posted a youtube link would you assume it was their video? If it was a celebrity would you think "wow, what are you doing on /g/?"
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>>62884207
Yeah, man. That's how that works...
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I don't miss the old web per se, I just miss the days before normies put a chokehold on it.

Now they're everywhere, the internet isn't as specialized a place anymore, where there used to be a certain pessimism and elitism, there is now toxicity and retardation or alternatively faux open-mindedness and agreeable opinions.

Places like reddit are a cancer on communities because it enables stagnation, communities don't grow and aren't exposed to new ideas.

I remember being annoyed at elitism in the past from time to time, but now I realize how valuable it is.
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>>62884910
Plus all the while there's a reddit and a wiki there's no reason for people to make personalised fansites of their own information.
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>>62884910
>but now I realize how valuable it is.
Exactly. When this site dropped its previous elitism foreign culture quickly took over. There is little difference between all the major websites. Reddit, tumblr, twitter, 4chan, etc all the the same because what gets posted on one will get posted on all the other sites. Internet globalism needs to be destroyed.
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>>62885020
>internet globalism

Great way to say it.
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>>62885140
And what's quite ironic is that a lot of these anti globalists on twitter or whatever want internet globalism where there are no borders on websites and any retard should be let in. Websites having their own unique culture and elitism is now a bad thing or autistic as they like to put it.
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>>62885020
As someone who, admittedly, didn't really use 4chan last decade, but, however, has been using the internet since the '90s, (i.e. since I was very little,) and was exposed to a lot of forums during the late~mid-2000s which had userbases that would frequent 4chan and post memes from there, I should say:

The internet's been global for as long as I've lived.
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>>62881015
the owners, first and foremost
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http://www.ikkoku.com/mi/

One of my favorite "old web" sites.

Love the guides, and this little time capsule:
   What Did I Use to Write the Synopses?:
-------------------------------------
I'm somewhat old-fashioned. Just take a look at the specifications for
the computer that I started with and continue to use to write my
Guidebooks (both English and Esperanto):

- PC/XT computer running at 4.7 megahertz
- MS-DOS 3.30
- 640 KB of memory
- 20 meg hard drive
- 11" amber monochrome monitor
- one 5 1/4" floppy disk drive

Actually, it's less to do with my being old-fashioned, than with my
being too stingy to get a better computer.

Adjacent to my computer, on the left, is a 15" TV set, equipped with a
VHS VCR (quite handy for taking notes on an anime).

For almost everything I write, I use a text editor named "QEdit". I
highly recommend this program. Real wordprocessors have their
advantages, but I like the simplicity and speed of this text editor.
QEdit is less than 55 kilobytes (a small size like this is a
requirement when you work on a pathetic computer), and is very fast. I
can load and edit as many files as can fit in memory. One of my
favorite features is that almost every single command key can be
reconfigured; so instead of using the default key layouts, I moved
some commands (which I use more frequently) to easier to reach (or
remember) keys.

Another big advantage is that the files that I create on a text editor
can be used right away on the Internet. I can also use QEdit to read
any ASCII text files that I download. Contrast this with a
wordprocessor: the ones that I've used usually have problems loading
ASCII files (the formatting goes all to heck) plus it's too hard to
edit ASCII character graphics.
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>>62885267
Why do people parrot this meme? YT hardly even existed before Google bought it out, YT has for all intents and purposes always been a Google service.
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>>62886983
YouTube was already the leading video sharing service in 2007 if I remember correctly.
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>>62883289
The Americans made the internet, dumbass.
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>>62884910
>>62885020
Just wait until more of the third world gets internet access. If you thought this was bad, imagine all the pajeets, mudslimes and africans flooding the internet.
We are already experiencing this with pajeets to an extent.
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>>62887155
Not the web
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>>62887229
>He thinks indians don't have internet access
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>>62887102
And it's been a Google service since the later half of 2006
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>>62887102
The first youtube video uploaded was in 2007, so, no.




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