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>Headphone purchase advice: http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

Please put some effort into your requests and questions.

If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

For sub-$50 headphones and IEMs, check out the infographic in >>>/g/csg

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
>Guide: https://canpicker.com/

Previous thread >>62865905
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>>62873818
Is there any affordable headphones that have good quality while also having the option of being booth wired and Bluetooth?
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>>62873854
The only Bluetooth headphones at any price I can honestly recommend are Bose QC35. The quality of Bluetooth headphones is generally very poor.
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The lord thy god in heaven hath given me his blessing to lead ye wretched sinners away from the ignorant lies and injustice of these cursed blasphemers so that you need not languish in torment for hearing the foul cacophanies of your heathen 'phones.

I'm here to tell you boys that the way out of the bottle is clear, and that the true path into righteousness and eternal life points to itself. And that truth, o' my blessed brothers, is the Sennheiser HD600. Now go, go and thank the mighty father who sheds the blood of his only son that you might be shown his mercy for gifting thee with such a majestic and awesome way to receive his rapture.
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>>62873908
Ah thank you dude. I noticed that a lot of recent tech is jumping on the Bluetooth bandwagon so I was looking for headphones that could do booth.
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>>62873978
It will be a while until quality Bluetooth headphones are common. Audio enthusiasts generally scoff at Bluetooth because it's not lossless (Bluetooth 5 may change this very soon as it has the bandwidth for lossless audio) and thus headphone manufacturers have been reluctant to target audio enthusiasts with high fidelity Bluetooth headphones.
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Headphone amp arrived today. I was hoping I could use the line out on the back for my active speaker, but it clips the audio. It's fine with my headphones since I can adjust the volume with the dial.
Any way to fix this?
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>>62874053
What amp?
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>>62874009
Thanks man!
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>budget less than $300
>something small that can fit in my ear
>something that's water/sweat resistant; basically made for working out
Any ideas?
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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?
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>Budget
~120€
>Location
germany
>Source
phone, occasional listening with amp at home
>Type of headphone
over-ear
>Open or closed
closed, the more isolation the better
>Comfort level
high, as important as isolation?
>Sound signature
no idea, anything fun, doesnt have to be neutral, since:
>Past headphones
akg k7xx and sennheiser momentum IEMs are pretty bass heavy, so i wouldnt know any better
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Since when was /hpg/ filled with snapheiser faggots?
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>>62874410
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/plantronics-backbeat-500-ear-bluetooth-headphones
>I've been more impressed with these products than I expected, but I think they're going to have to keep working on it to beat the likes of Sennheiser.
Sennheiser has always been commonly recommended on /hpg/ because they are literally the standard in headphones.
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>>62874410
Since the Sennheiser viral marketing budget was upped.
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https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FocalClearsnA1BRQE000007.pdf discuss. 5 kHz crater and 6 kHz peak are less than ideal.
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>>62874516
I wish the HD660S could match the distortion levels Focal are achieving with this new line of headphones
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>>62874410
>Hd600 shilled as best headphone on /hpg/ and plebbit the last few months
>suddenly hd660s gets announced
>MMMMMMM 660S ARE BEST
>NO MEASUREMENTS YET BUT YUUUSSS SO GOOODDD
>GO SPEND $500 ON THEM RIGHT NOW UGGGHH DO IT

it's viral internet marketing.
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>>62874542
There's no point in masturbating over inaudible technical improvements, anon. None of the commonly recommended open dynamics have audible distortion.
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>>62874584
>inaudible
>10-15% at 20Hz isn't audible at 40Hz
Yeah ok.
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>>62874354
Sennheiler hd569
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>>62874584
friendly reminder that you are cancer and don't know what good bass sounds like
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>>62874608
>>62874679
Having fun with your $500 DAC's improved soundstage and your cable lifts' increased multidynamic soundscaping?
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>>62874695
I don't own a dac besides the one in my motherboard, nice try though
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>>62874695
The battlecry of an r/headphones crossposter who lost.

Having fun with your chinese knocckoff gear and sub $100 headphones?
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>>62874707
>he owns cable lifts
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>>62874725
I use 3.5mm chink cables instead of rca
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>>62874267
Get one of those earbuds with ear support
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>>62873818
For 15$ these are pretty good
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>Beyerdycrapic
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These are the worst headphones I have ever heard.
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anyone here have any experience printing from a schematic a pcb for diy audio?
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>>62875253
you haven't heard them.
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>>62875282
They're absolute trash. The FR is a joke.
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>>62874313
ma900
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>>62875299
you still haven't heard them.
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>>62875253
This.
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>>62875299
>>62875253
attention seeking anon is back
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>>62874608
>>62874679
I have heard or owned DT880, DT990, K612, K701, Q701, K712, HD558, HD600 and HD650. None of them are audibly distorted. They are popular for a reason: they are all competent. I am willing to bet neither of you could pick out 2nd harmonic bass distortion in a blind test until it hit around 15-20%.
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>>62875448
>>62875448
>None of them are audibly distorted
I see you don't know what harmonic distortion is or what it sounds like. Don't post here again you fucking moron.
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>>62875461
Prove that it's audible.
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How would a pair of beyerdynamic dt 770 80 ohm compare to my sennheiser hd 280
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>>62875461
"(Incorrect, baseless assumption), (ad hominem)" is not an argument.
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>>62875472
Better comfort, better sound, better build.

An upgrade in every possible way.
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>>62875472
Get Beyerdynamic Custom Studio instead. They're a very significant improvement for not a lot more money.
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>>62875469
https://www.axiomaudio.com/blog/distortion
>>62875482
Go back to r/headphones.
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>>62875505
>blog sources
jej
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Two questions: HD 800 for $600 lightly used, good deal?

For melanin-enhanced listening, THX00, E-Mu Teaks, or Sony MDR-Z7? Leaning towards the Z7 as the cheapest and comfiest.
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>>62875541
Not an argument.
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>>62873818
I have ATHM50Xs, where do I go to sacrifice my self to the great demon lord?
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>>62875542
teak is the highest fidelity
yes $600 is a good deal
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>>62875505
>(discussing "straight noise distortion") Put another way, our ability to hear the test frequency noise tones at frequencies of 40 Hz and below is extremely crude. Indeed, the results show we are virtually deaf to these distortions at those frequencies. Even in the mid-bass at 280 Hz and lower, the noise can be around -14 dB (20% distortion), about half as loud as the music itself, before we hear it.
>Other types of distortion such as Harmonic Distortion and Intermodulation Distortion have a direct relationship to a frequency being reproduced as part of the music. These types of distortion may be harder to detect than straight noise distortion
Did you even read the link you just posted? It supports >>62875448 far more than it does >>62875461
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>>62875494
They're okay, I got a refurb pair from Beyer's eBay store for cheap. Clamp is high, going to stretch them out. Good build quality, not compact. I prefer the HD598Cs.
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>>62875695
>I prefer the HD598Cs.
Why, anon?
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>Budget
80$
>Location
Croatia
>Source
Phone/desktop
>Type of headphone
IEMs
>Open or closed
N/A
>Comfort level
Literally anything up until having my ears bleed
>Sound signature
I don't know, i feel like the buzzwords i want is detail, clarity and soundstage.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser hd201 only notable ones, they were ok, rest were too shit to remember

i just want the best bang for my buck
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>>62875846
Etymotic HF5 with 82 ohm adapter from eBay, or Etymotic MK5.
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>>62875542
TH-X00 purple heart
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>>62875487
Can you be a little more specific.
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>>62875768
In that price bracket, comfier, cheaper, prefer the sound signature. Don't hear the muddiness others have complained about, versus say the MDR-A1 where I do hear it.
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>>62876414
>prefer the sound signature.
Why, anon?
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okay, where is the chiru.no autist
why does your site 404 on directory listings now?
https://chiru.no/play/?audio-4u/[Audio-4U]%20J-CORE%208.0%20(flac)/ this one for example used to work, now 404
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>>62876535
Please don't encourage him to come here and spam the shitty stream for shitty music again
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>>62875993
Why the Purple heart?
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just bought pic related, loving it so far
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>>62875253
>>62875381
>no dummy head
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Should I grab the 558s while they're on sale? Wasn't looking for open headphones but for the price I think I could deal with the lack of isolation.
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>>62873935
I decided to be a real cheapskate and went for the HD 6XX instead.
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>>62877138
Yes
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>>62873818
I'm liking these foot images.
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>>62877164
Well done you got headphones that are better than the HD600 for less than the HD600
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>>62877188
>he said, phoneposting from his local chicken and waffles joint
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>>62876535
https://chiru.no/?play=audio-4u/[Audio-4U]%20J-CORE%208.0%20(flac)/
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>>62877303
what's it like being so triggered every time someone doesn't blatantly shill the HD600
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>>62877338
>replying
>calling others triggered
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>>62877392
>can't answer the question
>meme arrows
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>>62877188
>better
Nah

>for less
you can easily get a 600 in near new condition for $200 on eBay
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>>62877513
>buying used headphones
talk about poverty
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Are they worth it?
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Are these foam domes really worth $20 or is it all a ruse?
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>>62877566
>not an HD600
No, they are not worth it.
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>>62877535
>spending $100 to $200 more for no legitimate reason

Talk about a cucked consumerist
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>>62877599
>Talk about a cucked consumerist
i'm not the one buying the HD600s here lmao
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>>62877586
They're more comfortable for a lot of people, but you can get similiar foam tips from china for $1 a pair.
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>>62875318
Other way around
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>>62877587
Post headphone collection
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What kind of EQ settings should I set on my m40x's ?
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>>62878114
http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/audio-technica/ath-m40x-professional-monitor
Here's measurements. You should be able to figure out what to do with your EQ based on those measurements.
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What's a cheap DAC that can switch between headphone out and line out?
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>>62878305
smsl 793ii
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>>62878318
that doesn't switch between both are on all the time
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>>62878318
Forgot to say: USB in is a must
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>>62873818
How big is your folder of anime girls with headphones and bare feet?
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I need a headset for around $100. Thinking about an open over the ear pair. Need a microphone because I've /v/ cancer. I've been looking at these, any opinions?

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-360-Special-Gaming-Headset/dp/B01LDTRJG4/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1495818884&sr=1-6&keywords=headphones+sennheiser+open
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>>62878382
600 mb
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>>62878452
Thank god
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>>62877188
This.
>Feeling bad for buying a cheaper, better headphone
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CB-1s!
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>>62878440
Also thinking about these and just using the microphone from my old set.


https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-AD700X-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B009S332TQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1507852326&sr=8-3&keywords=open%2Bback%2Bheadphones&th=1
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>>62877566

I have Ebony wood E-MUs. They're pretty good, have nice, tight bass. Mids and highs have nice detail, not as crisp and rich as you'd hope, but they are closed headphones, after all.

Worth it for me at least.
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>Budget
~ 100$
>Location
USA
>Source
TV, Computer, Phone(Anything)
>Type of headphone
Bluetooth/Wireless
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I could wear cinder blocks for all I care
>Sound signature
Doesn't matter
>Past headphones
Mad dog(not pro), IEMs with some base to them.

Gona get logitech g933 or something cheaper, want something that's convenient to move away from computer with and they have audio source mixing which sounds pretty nice but idk. I'm also going to get g430s to mistreat everyday lol

Picture is also an interesting adapter I saw awhile ago.
https://www.amazon.com/Mpow-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Headphones-Receivers/dp/B01EV6Q0SY/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1507852819&sr=8-15&keywords=stereo+bluetooth+adapter

A headset/headphones that can switch sources easily sounds nice.
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>>62877609
then why are you giving opinions on headphones you don't own, let alone tried?

>>62878570
>takes about 2 years to ship out of massdump warehouses
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>>62879067
>then why are you giving opinions on headphones you don't own, let alone tried?
I own one of the pairs and have tried the others.
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>>62873818
just dropped by here to say that i love chitose
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>>62879067
HD 650s exist too
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>>62875993
>>62876655
Don't do PurpleHearts. They're the worst sounding of the X00's unleds you want SuperBass and sucked out low mids.
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>>62879079
Post them
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>>62879144
Then post yours
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Which one should I pick, /hpg/?

>MEElectronics ME6 Pro for 72$
>Senheiser Momentum for 88$
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>>62879152
>Then post yours
i'm not the one saying X headphone is better than another

anyways, it seems like you don't own them
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>>62879144
Your turn.
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>>62877188
>>62879188
Oh look, post-purchase rationalization.
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>>62879208
>can't form a valid counterargument
Cute.
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>>62879188
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>>62879188
>>62879220
Oh shidd!
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>>62879220
Oh look, post-purchase rationalization.
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Will there be any audible difference if I will upgrade from Realtek ALC887 to something like Modi 2?
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>>62879745
Probably not
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>>62879745
if you believe really hard
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>>62879829
It won't hurt if you believe really hard, anon. Now bite the pillow.
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>>62875381
>shrillville
topkek
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>>62879745
If your onboard is loud enough and you don't hear any hiss in your headphones when silence is playing (note that silence playing is not the same thing as nothing playing), you probably wouldn't benefit.
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Does /g/ use software DSP to adjust their listening experience?
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>>62880029
Equalizer APO and crossfeed.
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Is this chinese shit any good? Did I enjoy it?
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>>62880158
It's probably better than a DAC X6, which is terrible.
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>>62879745
Blindtest? No. Sighted? Maybe.
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>>62880180
Is the DAC x6 worse then this? I got this for $65.
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>>62880331
Yes
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>>62880158
>>62880331
one day I will get my chink dac in from china.. one day..
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>>62880480
Do they make good stuff? I can't tell.
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>>62880532
I'll let you know when I get one. two weeks and it hasn't shipped
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>>62880480
>>62880532
SMSL makes some good stuff
https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-SD793-II-PCM1793-DIR9001-Amplifier/dp/B00A2QLPJM
https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-Audio-M3-Powered-Decoder/dp/B019Y5TR6O
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>>62880553
Interesting to see all these SMSL posts because I'm using the SD 650 before getting my hands on >>62880158 just now. I can't tell if the DAART is better because it's better or if it's just because I can turn the knob up more.
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>>62880611
The only problem with smsl is that they have certain products that have QC issues, The smsl M3 is known for this
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>>62878382
PLEASE for the love of qt anime girls, upload it all and post it here.
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Are portapros still the best ultraportable on ear headphones even now that they cost twice as much as they used to?
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>>62880825
Koss actually just came out with a new on ear, the Koss KPH30i for $30.
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>>62880894
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/canjam-rmaf2017-koss-kph30i-ear-open-headphones
>I did compare it directly to the Porta Pro and found it a little more rolled-off up top
PortaPro is already dark/bassy. In other words, it's fucking nothing.
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>>62880894
>>62880917
Mildly disappointing.
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>>62880825
KSC75 are better than PortaPro for much less.
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Rate my EQ,
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>>62880962
Shit
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>>62880973
I should mention that this for the m40xs
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>>62880992
Doesn't matter what headphones it's for, if you're not using parametric EQ why bother at all?
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>>62880962
I don't know if that EQ has a preamp setting, but if it doesn't (or it does and you're not using it) you're causing clipping by boosting frequencies. Clipping the signal will cause distortion.
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>>62873818
U /g/eniuses help me plz. I can't hook up my Sony 1000X wireless NC headphones to my Vizio Smart tv can i?
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Half this thread seems to be dismissing the idea that external DACs are needed at all. The other half seems to be debating at great lengths the differences between various models of USB DAC, taking for granted that one is required. Which is closer to the truth?
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>>62881028
Should have bought QC35, which sound much better. Enjoy your buyer's remorse.
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>>62881110
If your onboard sound's audio is not audibly noisy/hissy you do not require an external DAC. Similarly, if your headphones are loud enough through your onboard sound you do not require a headphone amplifier.
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>>62881111
I used to have the QC35 a year ago. I literally swore never to buy a piece of shit shoddy constructed BOSE headphone. I also have a Bose sport-wear wireless earbuds, but they're better constructed.

Honestly, I just got my Sony and can return it within 2 weeks. They feel good desu. 30 hour battery life, slick build, kinda sweet.

It's not as if i can connect the QC35 to my Vizio tv anyway.
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>>62881135
>I literally swore never to buy a piece of shit shoddy constructed BOSE headphone.
>he doesn't know about MDR-1000x and its infamous cracking/falling apart problem
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>>62881140
Wut.
Ur kidding right?
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>>62881028
>>62881135
Depending on the audio outputs your TV has there's probably a bluetooth adapter you could buy, plug into the TV and connect the headphones to.
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>>62881145
I was told this was Japanese quality.
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>>62881145
https://community.sony.com/t5/Headphones/Sony-MDR-1000X-left-side-of-bracket-broken-in-10-days/td-p/613977
Tons of people reporting it breaking in the same place. You did not research your purchase adequately.
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>>62881119
So everyone with a USB DAC itt either has shitty onboard or are deluding themselves that they can hear a difference?
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>>62881184
Not necessarily. Some of us just like to have a physical volume knob. In this case, having a DAC is not a requirement but rather a luxury.
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>>62881016
Preamp set to -5 db
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>>62878382

https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=headphones+1girl+rating%3asafe+score%3a%3E5+feet
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>>62881163
>https://community.sony.com/t5/Headphones/Sony-MDR-1000X-left-side-of-bracket-broken-in-10-days/td-p/613977
thnx bruh.
>connect the headphones to
the headphones are wireless, and that's how i'd like to use them. is there a way i can connect?
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>>62881256
I meant "connect" the headphones to the bluetooth adapter, you know, via bluetooth.
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>>62881140
correct sony sucks at making headphones see:
>>62875381
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>>62881232
stop, I want to be surprised
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Are the K702s worth getting for 130gbp if I already have X2s?
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>>62880029
Not software, no. MiniDSP 2x4HD, but that's for room correction and hi-pass/low-pass filters w. a sub.
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>>62881488
They'd actually make a good compliment to X2. They're bright and X2 are dark.
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Ok, so I've always been content with Sony MDRZX110's which are like 20 USD, but I just got my first real job and now I wanna buy a slightly better pair of headphones.

No amp, no portable, and no real preference between open or closed.

My options are:

The Sony XB550AP which are 55 USD.

The Audio-Technica ATH-M20X which are 55 USD.

The Philips SHP9500 which are 80 USD.

Which ones are the best on a solely sound quality vs price comparison?
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>>62881510
shp 9500 since they're open, if you're in America you can get them off newegg for $55
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>>62881510
What kind of music do you like?

Also SHP9500 routinely goes on sale for $50, wait for a deal. I have a pair, they're comfy but have shit bass. I use them for gaming and VoIP calls.
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>>62881539
>shp 9500 since they're open, if you're in America you can get them off newegg for $55

I'm not in the US, the prices I listed are what they're going for where I live.

>>62881553
>What kind of music do you like?

Electronic.

I think the cheapest I've seen them have been 70.
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>>62878714
Those things looks like bass canons.
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>>62873818
Not a headphones question but what kinda soundbar are u faggots sporting?
i'm thinking of getting me a bose solo 5myself.
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>>62881705
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does anyone here use primarily iems over headphones?
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Should i buy the TFZ Series 4 on massdrop right now?
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>>62881750
no
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>Not EQing your cheap headphones to sound like the hd600
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>>62881777
No, save for King.
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>>62881750
yes
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>>62881750
Are there any iems that don't feel like they're raping your ears?
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>>62881826
>not EQing your HD600s to sound better than speakers
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>>62882311
literally not possible
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>not EQing your tinnitus so that it produces hi-fi music instead of ringing
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>>62882084
I wouldn't use any IEM unless its custom mold. Most people don't clean their ears thoroughly before using IEMs for the first time and end up compacting years worth of ear wax. You want a good seal without going deep into the ear canal.
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>>62881826
>unable to eq the hd600 to sound like the ma900 because it lacks the soundstage
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>>62881705
>soundbar

You should have just stopped there, I was upset but you gave away the game with bose.
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they good?
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>>62882694
THEY'RE SHIITTTTT!!!!
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>>62882324
>not enjoying it like the artist intended
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>>62873818
Who is this semen demon?
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>>62882903
Don't know her but it is Chitose Karasuma
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So how much have you all spent on audio equipment?

I think I'm around $4000 now, when I add it all up, but that includes speakers and amps, not just headphones.
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>Budget
250-300€
>Location
Hungary
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
over-ear
>Open or closed
I prefer closed
>Comfort level
something I can wear for hours comfortably.
>Sound signature
not sure
>Past headphones
m40x, hd599

I like the m40x's but it's falling apart now. (also broke it in two places over the years).
Looking for something like that, but with a little bit more bass.

Returned the hd599 because it just didn't sound good enough to me for that price. Maybe because it's open-back, I don't know.
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>>62883178
Philips X2
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>>62882694
>not the best, cost 26$
>only use for listening music/audiobooks on the move
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>>62883329
Sony MDR-1A, closed, super comfy (once you stretch the clamp out), well built, tonsa bass. Downside? It's not the cleanest headphone audio wise, but that's compared to say the HD6X0.

Should be well within your budget.
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>>62881750
I do, I have a window A/C in my primary room and it's loud as fuck. The only way to block out the noise is with IEMS.

>just turn off your AC

I live on a subtropical island where it's 80 year round, no way in hel it's getting turned off.

>>62882364
How much of a hassle is it to get the molding specs from an audiologist and how long does it take and how much does it cost?

Is there any way you could grow out of the mold, so to speak? I've read about people having to get them remolded.
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>>62878905
Bump
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I have enough money saved up to get a pair of these cocksuckers, should I splurge and get them or should I just go for ER4SR.


Price is not a concern, the only reason I'm considering the ER4SR is for "muh isolation". I haven't seen to much mention of how the andro's isolation is.
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Do you guys do speakers too?
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>>62883636
Why use speakers? So much better using a good headphone.
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>>62883636
Yes. Pioneer BS22 speakers in one room, JBL LSR305 monitors + Dayton SUB-1200 in another.

I prefer either to speakers for music, I use headphones for gaming, public transport or the office.
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>>62883681
>gaming
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Before/After
Finally repaired my dt990pro, without paying jews 40euro. It cost me 4 euro to print 2 sets of replacements kits for both sides.
If someone is interested there is project i used for print. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:831032
feels good man
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I'm thinking about getting the Rose Technics Aurora for the warmth. Any other alternatives?
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>>62883376
nvm about the CIEM question. I was looking and it seems like way to much fucking work. Easier to just buy some high end universials.
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Anyone know any bluetooth headphones that have at least a 12 hours battery life, are comfortable, and preferably aren't too bulky? Sound quality doesn't matter.
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>>62883810
Not sure what your budget is but this is the best Bluetooth on the market right now.

https://www.flareaudio.com/products/flares
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Been using ATH M50s for 8 years now. I'm between the Steelseries Arctis 7 and the Turtle Beach Stealth 700 which they say have 7.1 for the PS4.

What should I get?
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>>62873818
What are something like Sennheiser 598 CS but portable and foldable?
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>>62883913
Ouch. Yeah, that's a bit over what I'm willing to spend, at least right now. I didn't give a budget because I figured there wouldn't that many good headphones that fit my criteria. But my budget is around 200$. Like I said, sound quality doesn't matter, I just want a long battery life and for them to be comfortable.
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>>62884235
Beats by Dre
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I finally took a photo of my DT-860 frankenheadphones.
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>>62884329
Damn, what happened to them?
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>>62884418
Over time:
>just over 12 months in
Cable to right can has break, replaced with speaker cable
>18 months in
Plastic right above knuckle-joint in the right can snaps, various glues don't fix
Replaced OEM headband with headband from a pair for howard leight earmuffs.
>over the following 6 years
>LANs, parties, sleeping at mates houses off tap, etc lots or wear, but no more tears.
>7ish years later
Speaker cable fix breaks, replaced with current cable

They've had a sordid life, great cans though, wouldn't trade them for anything.
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>>62884475
>>62884418
>>62884329
Also IIRC, the DT660/DT860 OEM headband is a part made by some other OEM as Sennheiser used the exact same headband for a few sets of cans.
Can't remember for the life of me what ones though, this was from back when I was trying to fix my phones almost 8 years ago.
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What's the best desktop amp for $50?
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Should I? I'm getting tired of my T50's and from the reviews I've read these seem like the second coming of christ.
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>>62883178
>More bass than the ATH-M40x
These headphones are already bassy... You will probably like the V-Moda M-100.
If you want more bass than the ATH-M40x don't look at any open headphones.
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>>62883178
If you want to try more open headphones, you may like the beyerdynamic DT 990. It's similar to the ATH-M40x, most probably better overall, but a little less bassy.
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Can anyone recommend me some music or test audio that is good for testing and comparing the soundstage of different cans?
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>>62884827
I know it's a meme response but Hotel California (specifically the Hell Freezes Over version) is pretty great for that.
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>>62884881
Cool will give it a listen, is that virtual barbershop thing any good for this also btw?
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>>62884904
yeah
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>>62884915
Cheers lad
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Lads I'm in a predicament
I removed my Soundmagic E10's from my bag too quickly while I was walking to work and one of the earbuds dropped off, never to be seen again. Anyone know where I can grab some decent new ones in the UK?
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>>62883636
Vanatoo T0 and LSR305. I keep switching between both. Vanatoo is too laid back in the high mids and the LSR305 has the opposite problems do is fatiguing with retro games. Bass extension is much better with the lsr305 but the amp hiss is pretty annoying when I want silence. If I buy anything else it going to be a seperate amp and speaker pair of at least $500. I’ve looked at a few but most seem to be a little too warm or too heavy for my taste. I might just try to find somewhere to listen to $500+ monitors as long as they don’t hiss loudly. It sucks preferring near-fields for listening since it seems like there’s always something wrong. I have the HD600 but I’ve always listened to speakers near field forever so I need that soundstage.
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>>62885218
Order some Comply's. You'll need the 400's according to the comply's headphone finder.


https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/262-8295922-7025657?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=comply+400
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>>62885272
Thanks mate, that'll be my next dosh drop.
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Hello /hpg/,
I have a chance to buy Bose SoundTrue 2 for 70$ and Sennheiser Urbanite for 85$ which one is better.
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My stupid dad bought me a HD 800 for my birthday, I told him to fuck off and broke that shit. I want the Neko headphones fucking nigger
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>>62884682
Nobody is gonna talk me out of this?
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>>62886004
Sorry Man, Very few Anons have experience with planar here.
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>>62873818
Hey my current config is dt770 pro (32ohm) with a focusrite scartlett 6i6...I would like to upgrade, what should I upgrade? Thinking about investing into a pricy sennheiser. Open to any recommendations, budget roughly 600 bucks.
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>>62886302
Sennheiser HD660S
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>>62886311
>Sennheiser HD660S
how much better is the hd800 compared to the hd660s?
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>>62885788
Either you are are trolling or not - this is not cool nor funny.
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>>62886320
140 times better
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>>62886347
It's more like
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>>62886347
I've tested 660S, details/soundstage/image is meh, but bass is cool.
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Why are these so cheap? Is there something I'm overlooking or should I just buy them already?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx
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>So much gear I want
>Need to save money becasue I will be transferring soon
>Will probably be going to a ship, but don't know for sure
>No matter how much I try to rationalize a big purchase I can't bring myself to do it even if I'm drunk

I hate this shit, I just want to go back to recklessly spending all my money without a single fuck to give.
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>>62886422
I've spent 2500€ in 30 days on headphones.
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>>62886433
That's about how much I want to spend, maybe a few hundred more. I really want a Hugo 2, chances are that will be my next big purchase and maybe some nice IEM's or cans.
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>>62886422
I wouldn't even want to bring expensive gear in your situation. Just take some solid decent closed headphones and an e10k or something.
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>>62886477
There would be no reason to not bring it. If it wasn;t be used it would under lock and key. No chance of anything happening.
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>>62886422
>>62886454
>hugo 2

literally why? wtf
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>>62886454
>Hugo 2
Why not Modi Multibit and Magni 3? Such a waste of money instead of putting it towards headphones.
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>>62874410
Mindshare
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>>62886530
>>62886553
I already have a schitt stack for at home, the hugo 2 would be for use while I'm at sea (transportable), with a laptop and a good pair of headphones.
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>>62886358
No1 baited, so don't wanna leave this misinformation. I didn't test it.
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>>62886372
They're limited run and sold as close to cost as possible. You set up your production line and build them all at once en masse.

Because you're producing so many at one time labor costs are lower, material costs are lower, shipping costs are lower, etc.

The only downside being you need customers willing to wait while you produce the product.

Massdrop ordered 20,400 units. Sennhieser is producing 25,000 units. So mass drop having already collected the money for the first 20,400 are basically paying the cost for sennhieser to produce 25,000 units.

The remaining 4,600 units are likely just pure profit to sennhieser.
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>>62884682
DO IT YOU WON'T
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Just got a new motherboard and installed Realtek, what the fuck is this?
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Any opinions on the audio technica ad700xs?
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>>62886891
>not using a dedicated amp/dac
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>>62886905
>he thinks i'm made of money
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>>62886913
>What is magni/modi combo
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>>62886589
Fair enough but surely there's something cheaper than that? That's crazy money for any kind of amp, never mind a portable one
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>>62886930
I have a stack but for god's sake he might not have any spare money. let him be.
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>>62886930
>what is wanting to be able to adjust your volume in windows instead of using a plebian physical wheel

Disgusting, my HD800's will NEVER get a dedicated amp/dac.
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>>62886975
you use 800's with onboard sound?
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I have a pair of ATH-M40x's and I need a mic that won't be on my desk. The Antlion ModMic is pretty appealing so I might get that since the BoomPro won't work with these headphones. Thoughts?
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>>62883455
The answer is always ER-4SR.
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>>62886891
I imagine as you move the impedance slider to the left the maximum volume increases. You don't need a dedicated amp/dac as long as your volume is adequate and your audio is hiss/noise-free; don't let that other anon sell you snakeoil.
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>>62888011
>You don't need a dedicated amp/dac as long as your volume is adequate and your audio is hiss/noise-free

You actually think that as long as your volume is loud enough, the sound quality will be the same as a good amp? are you serious? my onboard is more tha loud enough but it sound shit and flat compared to my amp. How long have you been posting here? did you take the 'le 4chan knows best pill' when it comes to audio?

Jesus christ
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>>62888071
>my onboard is more tha loud enough but it sound shit and flat compared to my amp.
Describe the electrical mechanics behind this perceived difference in sound. If you cannot it will be assumed that you are experiencing post-purchase rationalization, expectation bias or both.
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>>62888100
Yes my red pilled brother Every single amp on the planet produces the exact same sound quality. As long as it's loud enough! woohoo!
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>>62888133
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/high-end-pc-audio,3733-19.html
>Using world-class headphones, a $2 Realtek integrated audio codec could not be reliably distinguished from the $2000 Benchmark DAC2 HGC in a four-device round-up.
Keep in mind that the aforementioned $2 Realtek is actually technically more inaccurate than your average onboard sound, yet was still indistinguishable from the $2000 DAC2.
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>have 86 db sensitivity, 6 Ohm speakers
>18 m2 room
How much WPC do I need my amp to have for adequate music listening levels?
Is 55-60 WPC@6 Ohm enough?
Please help. First time buying speakers and having a hard time estimating the volume.
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>>62888133
all good amps sound the same
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>>62887217
They used HD800 in the test linked in >>62888164
There's nothing wrong with using HD800 through onboard sound as long as the volume is adequate and the audio is noise/hiss-free. Cast aside your silly dogmas.
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>>62888100
not that anon but it's pretty obvious that there are actually a bunch of variables like output impedance in relation to huge impedance curve spikes of the (dynamic) headphone changing the resulting FR and more importantly the impulse response of the system because of the resulting damping factor

if that while staying within the current technical limitations really makes the often colorful described differences is a whole other story, but from the technical standpoint there's a huge difference in between a 'shared' line level / head amp out of a mainboard and a top of the line measuring amp like the adi-2 pro, and depending on the headphone you're using of course that can be audible
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>>62888164
Not sure what's worse. The fact that you linked toms hardware or the fact that you actually believe that. Snake oil exists, we all know that, but this is some next level shit.
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>>62888235
You are correct that high output impedance can audibly alter the sound of certain headphones. However, the output impedance of most onboard sound units is unknown. In these cases, where the output impedance is unknown, the question becomes is it really worth it for someone to spend $150-200 or more on a low output impedance DAC+amp solution for only a POSSIBLE increase in sound quality? Only the individual buyer can answer this question.
>>62886891
Do you know the output impedance of your onboard sound? What headphones are you using?
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>>62888100
>If you cannot it will be assumed that you are experiencing post-purchase rationalization, expectation bias or both.


I could say that you're convincing yourself that on board is good enough, because you don't want to spend money on an amp. Works both ways friend.
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>>62888186
yes, that's enough.
86dB means per watt per meter
so in 2 meter distance that's still about 80dB (in free field), means if you pull more than 16 watts you're at straight up deafening levels
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>>62888285
>However, the output impedance of most onboard sound units is unknown. In these cases, where the output impedance is unknown, the question becomes is it really worth it for someone to spend $150-200 or more on a low output impedance DAC+amp solution for only a POSSIBLE increase in sound quality?


So you don't know shit just as I thought. Stop posting. Seriously.
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>>62888244
I think >>62886891 is perfectly capable of evaluating that link on its individual merits without needing you to launch an ad hominem at the source.
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>>62888299
Explain what was wrong with the excerpt you quoted. Your failure to do so makes it seem as if you are simply trolling.
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>>62888300
Not even my point really. That poster is flat out wrong and he's trying to give 'advice'
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>>62888331
>Post-purchase rationalization and expectation bias: the post
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>>62888315
>the question becomes is it really worth it for someone to spend $150-200 or more on a low output impedance DAC+amp solution for only a POSSIBLE increase in sound quality?


Says it all doesn't it. You're assuming your on board might be as good, mostly because you don't want to spend more. Look at the amount of people that do. It's not all snake oil my red pilled friend. Just forget about it. Go back to your on board.
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HD 650s are on Massdrop FYI
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>>62888164
That's referring to DACs you incredible fuckwit, not amps.
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>>62888336
>the exact same buzzwords over and over
God, it must be you in these threads everytime
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>>62888164
>>62888364
lmao on board dude getting roasted
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>>62888358
Sorry pleb, I've ascended - my HD800 is winging towards me as we speak.
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>>62884682
Theyre very good, just make sure you put in the foam. I can answer any questions you have about them
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>>62885259
So would a Vanatoo T0 and a subwoofer fix that then?

I see it has built-in support, but it's weird the Vanatoo crosses over at 120 Hz, I thought people can still localize low freq sounds until 80 Hz or so.
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>>62888364
You shouldn't be calling someone a fuckwit while posting something blatantly incorrect like that. They tested:
- Realtek ALC889
- Asus Xonar Essence STX
- JDSLabs O2+ODAC
- Benchmark Media DAC2 HGC
They did not run the ALC889 into an amp. They did not run the Xonar into an amp. They specify O2+ODAC. They did not run the DAC2 into an amp. In all four cases what they tested were not DACs but, technically DAC+Amp solutions, so yes, amps were involved here.
>>62888350
>Only the individual buyer can answer this question.
Note that I did not advocate for or against buying an external DAC+amp solution for obtaining a low output impedance solution when one does not know the output impedance of their onboard sound. I said this decision must be made by the buyer, whether a merely possible increase in fidelity is worth the money.
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>>62888364
>>62888385
Samefag/discord please. Posting something blatantly incorrect is only roasting yourself.
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>>62884682
atticus m8
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what should i buy if i want bad headphones
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>>62888553
In b4 troll answers.
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>>62888472
>>62888488

Yadayada all amps sound exactly the same as on board. Not samefaging either. I didn't even read your artical.
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>>62888100
>Describe the electrical mechanics behind this perceived difference in sound
high impedance headphones need an amp that can do large amounts of voltage swing
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>>62888449
the T0 can be switched to a 80Hz crossover
or you can just try and adjust the subwoofer to the 'natural' high pass of the T0, which is steep as fuck though (8th) because dsp
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>>62888394
ascended from what?
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>>62888553
HE400i
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>>62888553
Anything that suits your tastes
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>>62888553
can't go right with ultrasone
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>>62888577
Describe the effect that "large amounts of voltage swing" has on a headphone's sound, and describe the mechanics of this effect. Source your claim and, if possible, provide evidence in the form of blind tests that this effect actually exists.
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>>62888296
Thanks, Anon.
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>>62888654
>provide evidence in the form of blind tests
oh, so FR isn't an objective measurement? okay. you're a fucking weirdo.
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>>62888671
Measurements of the effect of voltage swing on high impedance headphones would suffice too, sure. Post 'em.
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>>62888586
Shit, I'm a little regretting not getting them at the presale price then, but I guess I'm pretty happy with my LSR305s.

I've heard good things about Genelecs for near-field, but they seem to start around $1000. Each.
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Top result on Google for "high impedance" "voltage swing": https://www.head-fi.org/threads/amplifier-voltage-swing-high-impedance-headphones-sq-difference-proven.501017/
>2) More swing (volume) does not directly / automatically improve sound quality. (Some amps with a larger swing may actually be better amps, but it is not automatically so).
I'm certainly open to proof otherwise and am not taking a random Head-Fi poster as definitive.
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>>62888692
honestly, I don't have measurements to show the effect of that. but it's not some ooga booga mumbo gumbo, you just need to look at the electrical engineering behind it and you don't need a study or measurements to prove it.

you should read nwavguy's stuff, and then you would own an amp, but since you don't then I guess you don't "believe". And in that case I don't know what to tell you. Most people belong here, but I don't think you do.
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>>62888769
>tl;dr: I cannot prove my statement
Gotcha. Well, that was certainly unconvincing, anon.
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>>62888717
there's smaller genelecs which don't cost as much, but well, they're tiny - only makes sense for a portable setup IMO. these aluminum cases can take a beating.
is the LSR's tweeter hiss reduced when you trim down the HF on the back? might be a smart thing to do anyway if you think they're too fatiguing/bright
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>>62888781
just wondering, have you read nwavguy? what do you think about his material?
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>>62888782 new thread
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>>62888671
There has always been a few of these autists on here. They get a huge kick from 'knowing' that everyone is wasting their money on hardware other than the headphones themselves. It's a waste, all of it. And we're too stupid to realize. Don't waste your time.
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>>62888801
I think that skepticism is healthy in an industry as snakeoil-filled as audio. I don't think that it is at all irrational to demand proof of claims in the world of audio before spending money based on said claims.
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>>62888870
why don't you buy a kameleon then? it will produce objectively better sound for your hd800 through dsp correction that introduces no THD and lowers the ringing




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