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Seeing this endless discussion over BSD vs GPL I had the idea of making a BSD OS transition to GPL, this way nobody can say the BSD community is supporting just its license. Which BSD would you GPL?
NetBSD
OpenBSD
FreeBSD
LibertyBSD
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why not LibertyBSD? it's already stripped of proprietary blobs
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>this way nobody can say the BSD community is supporting just its license

What a great reason for such a huge job. You sure are going to show them!
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i'll make the logo! :--]
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>>62877173
Crossed my mind. Saw LibertyBSD mentioned on /g/ and though it would add more people to this, was a perfect opportunity.
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>>62877192
But putting a license is not a lot of work, also to be updated from upstream with new code won't be neither. Remember what a fork is.
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>>62877259
What exactly is the point? Your fork will use GPL but if someone wants to use the code and close the source they'll just fork the original BSD themselves? Am I missing something here?
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>>62877150
>GPL-licensed BSD
no
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>>62877326
Can't we leave the license argument behind and join together for once?
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>>62877356
I don't have a problem with either license. Wouldn't this project just do the opposite? Instead of joining forces, it'd just create another unnecessary alternative.
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>>62877356
>wants to relicense BSD-licensed software to GPL
>AND avoid a license war
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>>62877378
It should be obvious is going to do the opposite of what you say. Relax.
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>>62877378
Forgot to add – if you produce code to your fork, the BSD project can't benefit from it because you've GPL'd the code and Linux is unlikely to benefit from it as you're creating a BSD. In other words, nobody benefits.
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>>62877150
>BSD OS transition to GPL

why the fuck would you do that?
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>>62877399
Don't be so fearful of change. The important thing is the OS, not the license. The community is not supporting BSD because of its license.
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>>62877449
>the license isn't important
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>>62877449
>The community is not supporting BSD
sauce? fucking bait
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>>62877150
BSD is for cucks, enjoy your cuck license
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>>62877496
Enjoy your stale meme
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>>62877477
I know your comment is bait, but I am worried this resistance is rooted.
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>>62877496
Being such a badass programmer that you let anyone do anything
they want with your chad code is cucked, I bet you are a fat, fedora
wearing faggot.
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How the hell is this relicensing supposed to work? You just fork the existing project and rewrite license to GPL? But noone needs to obey your GPLd fork because they can use the old ISC version?
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Loonix GPL freetards please stay away from BSD.
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>>62877672
Your BSD is shit and you know it.
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>>62877743
Not a argument
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>>62877756
retard
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>>62877792
Is that all you have to say? Then leave.
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>>62877808
no, actually I'm gonna stay here and whisper to your ear the whole night "BSD, BSD, BSD..."
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>>62877911
Don't start a flamewar here.
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>>62877527
>>62877540
>>62877549
Good cucks, let the bull fuck your code hard while you prep him nice and well by programming for free.
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>>62877391
Nothing wrong on the idea.
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I don't care about the license. The BSD license has it's purposes.
I won't ever use BSD again, because I already tried it and it's fucking garbage. Stop shilling fucking garbage.
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>>62877777
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You cannot change the license on code you did not create. Whatever is BSD licensed must remain under the BSD license unless the original author gives their permission to change the license. BSD and GPL are compatible in that you can combine BSD licensed software with software that is GPL licensed but the BSD license remains attached to the code, you just attach the GPL license to the code as well.
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>>62880208
Congrats, you just realized what we are trying to do, or do you?
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>>62880231
I have no idea what you're trying to do. You will not get the original authors to sign off on relicensing their code to something more restrictive and as long as the BSD license remains attached there's no reason anyone would bother with the GPL license.
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>>62880284
Read the OP again and stop making such a fuss.
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I want to see this happen. Is there a place in mind to host it? Even github would be cool.
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>>62877173
Liberty is just a respin of OpenBSD, you idiot.
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>tfw your a bsd developer and apple comes along, steals your ultimitivly-free software, jails it into a walled garden and gets rich
hey that really worked out!
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>>62881948
>choose to license your software under a license that permits companies to use your software
>companies do exactly that
>WAAH THEY'RE STEALING MUH CODE
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>>62877527
GNU/dad
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>>62881957
loonix zealots think they need to protect BSD code from companies stealing it, geezes what a bunch of retards
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>>62881948
Except Apple has tons of original development. So they copied coreutils and network stack, wow, much cuckery.
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>>62877150
Retarded Idea. Why the fuck would you bother to do this?
How retarded do you have to be to think of this?
I seriously can not comprehend you thought process here, you take a free (as in BSD not """free""" as in GPL) OS then put a more restrictive license on it and expect that anyone cares?
Why would you do this? What problem do you solve?

Aside from forking an OS and removing one of its most important "selling" points what did you do here.

GPL and BSD licenses both have very valid reasons to exists (although only the BSD one can call itself free) why would even attempt your retarded idea?

>>62878580
Only if you are insane.
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>>62881948
Yes, it did work out.
Exactly what everyone wanted to happen happened.
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>>62883093
cause they need to protect muh freedoms, kek
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>>62883395
What?
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>tfw ur OS is shit so you pounce on another OS and give it a commie license
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>>62883454
>tfw u want to "unify" the communities by helping neither
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>>62883465
>tfw u tell urself ur coding / compiling to help the community but you're actually seeking acclaim and attention by GPL'ing your code so your name will always be mentioned and code never close sourced
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>>62883469
>tfw u don't actually contribute anything to the project, so the big evil companies will just for the BSD-licensed code you forked to GPL
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>>62883477
>tfw u make attention seeking threads on github and on your blog and social media instead of coding and helping out trying to make yourself relevant and noticed

literally 99% of todays open source "devs"
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>>62877150
none because bsd doesn't need gpl.

retarded idea, from a retard, on a board with a rate of 98% retards
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>>62884493
Now that's just mean. And a little selfish, considering the fact that the board has ~100 users.

That being said, OP is a retard.
>let's make a BSD in which the BSD community won't have any interest
>let's use a licence, which community has no interest in the operating system we're creating
Even TempleOS has more users than this shit will ever have.
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>>62884578
Don't rush to say this won't find users because I've seen this happen with other OS. It gets popular once the idea has a solid ground.

All the assblasted bigots arguing for "muh BSD license" are the very reason OP's idea has to happen.
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>>62877150
Why are you trying to piss off the devs when the software is already gratis and open source? Just don't use it if you don't like the licensing. But if you had to pick one then go with OpenBSD. It's the best BSD.
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>>62884767
Why not LibertyBSD lika has been suggested multiple times? OpenBSD is a good option but might as well go full libre.
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>>62884937
it's already more libre than GPL, retarded?
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>>62884978
I mean free of binary blob, dumbass?
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>>62877150
You cannot license BSD code under GPL.
You can include BSD code in proprietary licenses but not under GPL, because GPL is too restrictive.
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>>62884994
he thinks his HW has no binary blobs, the lunatic obsession is real
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>>62884999
You can include BSD licensed code under GPL, are you retarded?
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>>62885030
kek
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>>62884999
trips of truth
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>>62884994
he doesn't go to driver companies advocating open source instead he wants to change license of operating system, true retard
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>>62885048
Except he is wrong.
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>>62885016
>>62885035
LGPL but not GPL3, am I wrong?
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>>62885116
Still wrong, not sure why this confusion when the GPL is supposed to be the more restrictive license and still allows integrating BSD code. What part of that is hard to understand?
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>>62884937
LibertyBSD is literally just install script and package mask for OpenBSD. It has no development, just deletes few things that makes the list of supported hardware even shorter and makes delay from upstream. Why would you want that.
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>>62885131
>Because if I take GPL code fork it and write my own code that code will get GPL'ed, you cannot GPL BSD code. Code cannot be GPL and BSD at the same time. I can't fork GPL code and say they code I add to this project shall be BSD.
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>>62885167
Sshhhh, don't let they hear you ;^)
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>>62885053
>firmware companies
ftfy
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>>62885175
Who are you quoting this wordplay? It doesn't even say conversion can happen, it just bigotry and excuses.
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Is FreeBSD an option? Not sure how much can be changed but sounds interesting.
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>>62884728
bsd is only not a shitshow like linux because they are not full of sjw code monkeys.

go fuck yourself and destroy another project and leave bsd alone
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>>62885237
NO, FreeBSD is shit use OpenBSD instead is better. FreeBSD has lame security, get it right.
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>>62885554
shilling for obsd this hard, been running fbsd for years not a single problem
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>>62885712
FreeBSD is lacking in security and you know, OpenBSD is superior, everybody knows that.
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>>62885712
https://vez.mrsk.me/freebsd-defaults.txt
:^)
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>>62885237
Hard to say, some thing are ported form Solaris systems (e.g. OpenZFS) and might not have trivial licensing.
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>>62885795
CDDL was a mistake.
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This entire thread is some grade-A bait.
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>>62877150
netbsd, as it is the best bsd
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>>62886137
My man. The package manager is underrated.
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>>62885784
Hello TJ.
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>>62885554
except that one time where they didn't have package signing for 20 years and were on the same level of security as arch

nigga you aren't using freebsd, you are just larping, fuck off
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>>62886197
>shilling for freebsd
Hi CISCO
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>>62884937
>OpenBSD is a good option but might as well go full libre.
It is.

>>62884994
OpenBSD is binary blob free. Whether or not your hardware is is up to you.

>>62885131
Know why you can GPL BSD code? Because the BSD license allows it. Guess why you can't BSD-license GPLed code.
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>>62886283
>OpenBSD is binary blob free
[ CITATION NEEDED ]
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>>62884999
See >>62886283
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>>62885795
I knew about ZFS but what other things came from Solaris?
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>>62885748
Superior in what way, exactly?

Can't be ease of use for a UNIX retard like me (had a go at it in a VM) as I couldn't figure out how to enable doas even after reading a couple of manpages; I'm sure it's a good OS for intermediate/experienced users who know their way around UNIX though.

The ports are often outdated and or abandoned which doesn't seem to be the case a lot of the time when it comes to FreshPorts (more users and all that).
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>>62886306
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_blob
>The OpenBSD project has a notable policy of not accepting any binary device drivers into its source tree (however, OpenBSD distributes firmware blobs), citing not only the potential for undetectable or irreparable security flaws, but also the encroachment onto the openness and freedom of its software.[8] The Free Software Foundation (FSF) is actively campaigning against binary blobs.[9] It also considers OpenBSD's policy confusingly worded, as "blobs" in the BSD community refer to what it considers non-free drivers, and not non-free firmware.
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>>62886258
>for freebsd
not only can you not read, you also have no idea about things being talked about.

classic fa/g/got, now go post in a mkb or desktop thread

>>62886306
https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq1.html#WhatIs
>OpenBSD is a full-featured UNIX-like operating system available in source and binary form at no charge.
translation for retarded fa/g/gots: available in source means, no blobs
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>>62886357
I think NetBSD has more updated packages and is easier, might be wrong.
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>>62886398
Then why is LibertyBSD a thing?
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>>62886613
it's one-man project from someone who got yelled at on mailing list from Theo and had to prove himself that he can do it
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>>62886613
it is not, see also >>62886754
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>>62885784
I prefer "My BSD sucks less than yours":
https://www.lphp.org/pub/events/my_bsd_sucks_less_than_yours-full_paper.pdf

It's good-natured but hard-hitting. After going through it I think OpenBSD still comes out on top.
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>>62877150
There's enough BSD clones, if you want to do something interesting port Guix packaging manager to a BSD kernel, and Gnu Shepherd. Create GuixBSD so basically Nix without all the Linux kernel AIDS.
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>>62886357
literally takes two manpages

https://man.openbsd.org/doas.1
"The config file /etc/doas.conf could not be parsed."

https://man.openbsd.org/doas.conf.5
"permit dumbo"
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>>62886352
Tons of shit, like DTrace, plus all the monitoring software they wrote so you can run a private cloud without worry of downtime.There's also Illumos floating around which you can use to make your own distro quite easily like SmartOS did.
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>>62886895
Funnily enough, Linux is the least cancerous part of that ecosystem. The userland is so full of shit it's making me want to buy a fucking Mac.
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>>62886613
if it doesn't refuse to work with devices containing firmware in ROM, libertybsd is
NOT
FREE
ENOUGH
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>>62886987
>it's freer by restricting your ability to do something
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>>62886357
>enable sudo
put one line into /etc/doas.conf
permit :wheel
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>>62887078
s/sudo/doas
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>>62887170
>not terminating the substitute in a regular expression
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>>62877527
>The Virgin GPL vs. the Chad BSD
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>>62887324
>The Free GPL vs. the Cuck BSD
ftfy
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>>62887078
as opposed to removing one character from sudoers with visudo?
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Fork OpenBSD and don't listen to negative comments. If they don't like it then they shouldn't use it.
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I genuinely don't understand these threads. Are people deluding themselves to the point that they seriously think anyone falls for them?
You're all just trolling each other.

People often wonder why 4chan is shit now; this thread is their answer, it's trolls all the way down, because anonymity used to mean that conversation was more important than personality, but now it just means someone gets to shitpost endlessly.
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>>62887611
I respectfully disagree, this is legit interesting. But each to their own.
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>>62877150
if it doesn't use the bsd license wouldn't it cease to be bsd?
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>>62887988
No, the myth needs to die.
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>>62888039
so now its FreeGPL?
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>>62888062
kek
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>>62887411
If you don't like it then just use sudo, which is also made by an OpenBSD dev.
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>>62877150
You can't re license it if you are not the original author.
>>62878740
kek
>>62881992
At least someone cares about that shit, when the last good thing from is a feature from solaris.
>>62884978
>it's already more libre than GPL,
Which is more free? 100 devs' freedom or 10000 users' freedom? Also linux is a proprietary hellhole too, so it's free for devs too, so this "selling" point is a meme.
>>62885974
>hurr durr
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>>62888467
Is not relicensing, is adding a license.
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>>62888659
You can't do that with the consent of the original authors either.
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>>62877150
>literally stealing from BSD developers
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>>62888963
Are you telling me I can't do what I want with BSD?
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>>62888988
What gave you the impression that you could?
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>>62888963
[ CITATION NEEDED ]
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>>62886754
this

he also shills his shit everywhere constantly and is just generally obnoxious
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>>62889008
Sure.
>Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.

That's taken directly from the BSD license template.
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>>62888995
Can I include BSD under a proprietary license?
>>62889031
No sources, also WRONG, that is still compatible.
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>>62889031
Forgot to quote the entire thing
>Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:

>Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS "AS IS" AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
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>>62889050
>No sources, also WRONG, that is still compatible.
>No sources.
you are fucking retarded
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>>62889057
>>62889059
That is still compatible, just quit, you are a joke.
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if its not proprietary youre a cuck
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>>62889083
you can't change the license you dumb fuck, that's literally what OP is proposing
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>>62889057
>>62889059
FUCKING FAG JUST QUIT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses#FOSS_compatibility
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>>62889098
See >>62889098
Fuck off
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>>62889050
>Can I include BSD under a proprietary license?
I don't understand why you're answering a question with a question. That's not how things work.
>No sources, also WRONG, that is still compatible.
What do you mean compatible - compatible with what? The writers of code can (collectively, if there's more than one) agree to relicense the code - but you alone can't do it, especially not if you're not actually one of the commiters.

It's a template taken from the fulltext part of tldrlegal, but https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/COPYRIGHT?revision=310963&view=markup is as authorative a source as you can find.

>>62889083
You keep using that word, but you don't appear to understand what it means.

>>62889100
>being this mad
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>>62889130
You've been proven wrong. Leave.
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>>62889100
YEAH QUIT BEING RIGHT
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>>62877431
You don't want to watch the world burn?
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>>62889134
How have I been proven wrong? You can't just say it, and it becomes true. That's not how these things work. Maybe you need to get out of your safe spaces at university.
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>>62889130
"Two variants of the license, the New BSD License/Modified BSD License (3-clause),[6] and the Simplified BSD License/FreeBSD License (2-clause)[8] have been verified as GPL-compatible free software licenses by the Free Software Foundation".
Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses#FOSS_compatibility
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>>62889148
Wikipedia isn't written by legal experts, it's written by idiots like you. Stop using it as a source.
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>>62889145
Just stop.
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>>62889148
what do you think that compatability means?
please explain.
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Lets not concentrate in obvious bait and move on. We were talking about which BSD is ideal for this. Why not NetBSD?
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>>62889162
Just stop what? Being right. I'm sorry, Dave. I can't do that.
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>>62889180
Because it's BSD licensed and you (you specifically) can't relicense it.
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What is this guy scared of? Is not the end of BSD changing its license for one fork.
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>>62889195
Who's scared of anything? You're welcome to fork, you just can't relicense existing code.
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>>62888963
you can convert all code to gpl since the bsd license is gpl-compatible
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Daily reminder that the only ones who can stole BSD code are the GLP zealots that relicense code.
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In NetBSD they explain this can be done http://www.netbsd.org/about/redistribution.html
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>>62889214
That's not what that compatibility means. It means that BSD code can exist along-side GPL code, not that BSD code becomes GPL by being integrated into an existing GPL project.

>>62889218
No, they don't. You just can't read. :)
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>>62889216
https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118963284332223&w=2 for anyone who doesn't have a clue what you're talking about.
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Don't let the bait wins.
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>>62889214
No, you can't relicense it.
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>>62889218
>Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
both licenses on that page have this clause

and yes, license compatibility is more akin to being able to link BSD libraries in a GPL program or something
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>>62877150
>relicensing a BSD flavor as GPL
Nigger what the fuck are you doing
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>>62889247
The funny part is that I'm enjoying myself drinking whiskey and shitposting on 4chan, whereas you think you're baiting me.
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https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhatDoesCompatMean
"What does it mean to say a license is “compatible with the GPL?” It means that the other license and the GNU GPL are compatible; you can combine code released under the other license with code released under the GNU GPL in one larger program".

Examples:
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#FreeBSD
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#ModifiedBSD

Moving on. FreeBSD, OpenBSD or NetBSD?
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>>62889307
>the FSF niggers want to control everything
whoa
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>>62889307
also stop acting like you have the talent to wrap BSD code around GPL code, idea guy
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Yes, hes is moving the goalpost. Can we stop this endless discussion about the license and put some work to it? I have in mind hosting this in Github, at least to start.
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>>62889307
Yes, it means that GPL and BSD licensed code can exist in the same repository from which the code is produced from - but you still have to reproduce the BSD license file along with the code, because of the BSD licenses clauses.
How is this so hard to understand?
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>>62889362
>SJWhub
*gitlab
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>>62889362
Feel free. See how far you get.
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And now threats.
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>>62889362
I hope you have a lot of money, because Eben Moglen (the guy who tried this last time) is used to being paid by the FSF, so he doesn't come cheap.

>>62889405
You need to grow some thicker skin if you think >>62889394 is a threat. I'm simply curious as to how far you get, because I doubt it'll be very far.
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>>62889405
babbys first time on 4chan?
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>>62889405
good god i hope you post on the openbsd mailing list lmao
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>>62889512
No fucking way a child like that would last a second.
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>>62889530
Theo is a massive prick, but he's the prick software needs to keep the SJWs out
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No wonder BSD is shit.
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>>62889556
lmao >>>/r/linuxmasterrace
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>>62889588
Go back to /fglt/, fucking cuck
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>>62889050
>Can I include BSD under a proprietary license?
no, you can sell the BSD code and not give out the source but it will still be BSD license as you are required to credit the creator
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>>62889603
do you have brain damage?
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>>62889628
Do you? You're clearly another cuck from /fglt/ here to shitpost.
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>>62889539
I actually like Theo, I've met him a few times at conventions. I think he comes off as much more of a prick in text than he actually is, because while he's opinionated he certainly has the credentials to back it up.

>>62889556
>>62889588
>>62889603
>>62889621
>>62889628
>>62889662
This is the kind of in-fighting that /fglt/ users love to start because they think it makes them mastermind trolls.
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>>62889662
And what makes you think that?

There's no hidden meaning behind my "go back whence you came" post you nigger.
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This thread started fine until some idiot started crying for "muh BSD license you cannot take my license". I don't know who the license bigot is but he needs to leave.
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>>62889721
doesn't matter how much you cry about it, you literally cannot modify someone else's license
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>>62889721
>implying your shitty thread started off fine
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>>62889721
Can I apologise to this posters parents via the internet? Because he's clearly too fucking stupid to be allowed.
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>>62889721
Sure thing you delusional numale cuck
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so let's talk about openbsd.

if i were to buy a laptop and wanted to run -current on it, could i have some cron job that fetches it through CVS, builds it and pushes the release to a NFS share? i'm still not sure if i can just run snapshot packages or if i'll have to use dpb to build a bunch of ports in the cron job
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>>62889779
oh, and obviously a much more powerful computer would be running the cron job, hence the NFS share part
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>>62889779
>>62889795
Are the (You)s turning you on so much that you need to continue this?
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By the way, I am leaning to netbsd for this project
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>>62889806
god forbid i discuss BSD related technology in a BSD related thread without being a license autist
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>>62889809
No, you're not. You're too dumb to learn.
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>>62889806
t. /fglt/ cuck
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>>62889817
This isn't a BSD related thread, it's your own personal bait to get as many (You)s that you achieve orgasm just from the abuse.
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>>62889836
and here we see the schizophrenia of fglt
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How paranoid can this faggot be?
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>>62889847
>t. cuck
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>>62889847
You sure like using words you don't understand.

>>62889852
Paranoid about what? Do you genuinely think anything will come of your shitposting?
If you were actually smart enough to do any coding, you'd have started coding and gotten people involved after showing that there's something to your idea instead of pretending.
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>>62889809
OpenBSD has a good installer and security defaults, is a better choice.
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>>62890115
Stop replying to yourself.
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>>62890125
>implying
I am just saying OpenBSD is better.
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>>62890201
I'm not implying anything, I'm outright saying it you nimwit.
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>>62890256
Learn to spell first, psycho.
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Can I ask why the aggression? Adding the license is just adding one file not the end of the world.
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>>62890583
no, that would be dual licensing and that means changing the software's license
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>>62890604
Then just don't use it if you don't want, the OS is supposed to be free for all.
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>>62877150
FreeBSD
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>>62890644
do you not understand that this is literally against the law
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>>62890883
Why do you insist on coming with this lie when is been proven wrong? Read the links provided itt if you miss them.
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As you fags keep arguing I search for a script to check for licenses https://github.com/benbalter/licensee
This way we make sure what licenses the code is in.
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>>62889539
>Theo is a massive prick, but he's the prick software needs to keep the SJWs out

completely false narrative polfuck
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>>62886185
post you're quoting wasn't me. i never use that face.
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Why can't we all just get along?
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>>62891363
This. Everything would be so more easy if we just cooperate with each other.
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>>62891363
it's basic microsoft tactics at work here
all we can do is ignore the bait
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>>62891363
Because we're not robots, dumbo
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>>62891432
I wouldn't be surprised if all this bickering was fueled by only a few useful idiots that have never used neither GNU/Linux nor BSD.
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>>62891432
Sad but this. But dont let discourage you.
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>mfw this is exactly what microshaft wants
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legally you can turn a bsd into GPL since BSD is a permissive license.

surprised no one has mirrored openBSD on github since its the most resembling in philosophy to linux
(they only accept opensourced drivers)

freebsd accepts any features despite the openness
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>>62891659
https://github.com/openbsd
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>>62891511
BSDcucks are extremely pathetic betas who want the bulls at microsoft to cuck them hard
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>>62891659
>linux
GNU/Linux*

here newfriends, this here is an example of bait you'd fall for if I hadn't pointed it out
>>62891675
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>>62891659
>>62891674
Yes I am reading this https://www.openbsd.org/policy.html right now
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>>62891674
Pic related would save us a lot of work for GNU certification.
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>>62891694
Good luck, let the pajeet bulls take your code for free. A good cuck loves not getting anything in return for hard work.
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>>62891694
My mistake.
You are correct that it's GNU philosophy.

Have a pengu
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>>62891714
Good point.
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>>62891714
Imagine being at the FSF recommended distros page. A BSD, epic.
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>>62891675
>Microsft
They will only be getting sloppy 2nds.
Apple, Sony, and Nintendo already ran a train on *BSD code.
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>>62891675
>multibillion dollar corporation deems your code good enough to be part of their golden goose
>this is a bad thing
I'll never understand GPL zealots
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>>62891743
This.

Liberty sounds patriotic too.
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>>62891714
GNU/LibertyBSD
Pretty comfy.
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>>62891714
Do they have a github mirror?
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>>62891797
Sadly, no.
The source is located here.

https://ftp.libertybsd.net/pub/LibertyBSD/
https://notabug.org/libertybsd/

A description from libertBSD site: LibertyBSD is a “deblobbed” version of OpenBSD. You can get all of the benefits of OpenBSD, while being sure that there is nothing non-free lurking in the depths of your system.

It looks promising.
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>riley samefagging non-stop again
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>>62891832
>https://libertybsd.net/faq.html
>Is LibertyBSD a “FSF-approved” distro?
>No. We’re trying to get it approved, though
Bingo!
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>>62891866
That's pretty cool!
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>>62891866
Will they do this themselves? I mean, the transition. Because looks like these guys are thinking the same.
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>>62891944
It looks like it!
I'm pretty excited.

This would allow us a path of support for *BSD features in the Linux kernel too!
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>>62891989
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This is now a LibertyBSD thread.
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Maybe we should try and contact them and ask if they would be open to have a official mirror on github?

It would definately simplify the process with their cooperation.
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>>62892081
Good idea.
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retards how about you end yourselves, do something productive once in a while instead of sperging about even more free BSD license, the only think you are capable of is packaging shit all the time, making another gazillion three shitty distro, ricing another pointless linux installation, haling to the psychotic stinky commie zealot, waiting 10 years on the year of the linux desktop with pathetic market share, which is never going to happen, STAY the fuck from the true free lincense BSD, your code will never appear in a real world commercial software DEAL WITH IT
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>>62892265
damage control
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>>62892265
imagine if these people weren't useless leeches and would actually contribute to the ports system
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>>62892272
>>62892275
assblasted linux crybabies
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>>62892081
Did you do it?
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Add something GPL to the github, something like an optional package. Place LICENSE with GPL on the root directory. Done, nobody can't tell you anything, you've GPL'ed the distro.
I hear LibertyBSD was attempting this but didn't thought of this solution.
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>>62892662
You do it.
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>>62892431
Did you?
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>>62892265
>>62892275
This exposes the weaknesses in the BSD licenses.

They say licenses don't matter and they don't care what others do with their code but the second we want to use it they flip out.

They are fine with Sony and Apple using their code but not GPL users.

This is exactly what the GPL prevents and it's why we call *BSD the cuk license.
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>>62892431
It appears their forum is offline.
https://en.libertybsd.net/forum

Other forms of contact are via:
#libertybsd on freenode. If that fails, try the [subreddit[(https://reddit.com/r/libertybsd). Finally, if that also fails, send me an email.

The community seems to be not much existent so I'd suppose they would be very open to the GPL since it would allow a much greater collaboration.

I doubt the rest of the *BSD community cares or else the project wouldn't be so stagnate.
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>>62892808
>send me an email
k
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>>62892755
because it just makes GPLtards look like hypocritical fuck ups

proprietary software devs are more honest than you fucks at this point
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>>62892831
Your comment makes no sense.
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>>62892755
>This exposes the weaknesses in the BSD licenses.
Sure, I'll try using your tactics of simply stating a fact without backing it up: No it doesn't.
>They say licenses don't matter and they don't care what others do with their code but the second we want to use it they flip out.
The license that the developer chooses dictates what can and cannot be done with the code. Nobody except those who commit code under a particular license has any reason to have their opinions sought, as they cannot speak for those who commit. If someone who commits to any of the BSDs have told you told you that, please back it up and be prepared to prove their veracity.
>They are fine with Sony and Apple using their code but not GPL users.
Apple and Sony don't break the license, like you're trying to.
>This is exactly what the GPL prevents and it's why we call *BSD the cuk license.
GPL enforcement doesn't work anywhere but the juristiction of the copyright holder; look at all the Chinese companies who're using GPL'd software for their IoT without providing source upon request.
>>62892808
LibertyBSD is literally one guy who Theo didn't agree with so, to put it a way you'll understand, he took his toys and went to play in another sandpit.

Hope this helps.
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>>62892821
Haha my mistake it was a hyperlink.
riley@openmailbox.org

I currently don't have a spare email because gmail is blocking my ip since I have a business email already.

I can probably setup freenode this weekend if need be but it's a bit of a hassle.
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i knew that fucking fag was shilling here
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>>62892862
>Chinese companies who're using GPL'd software for their IoT without providing source upon request.

china doesnt have common practice business laws or civil suits

they are immuned to it.
korea/taiwan/jp work as intended.
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>>62892895
I won't be the only one now, sorry to ruin your life.
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>>62892908
So what? GPL enforcement still doesn't work.
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>>62892895
why would he be here asking if he would be up to relicensing his own project to GPL

you are retarded
>>>/x/
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>>62892938
could you have worded that post any worse?
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I hear LibertyBSD needs manpages, I am more than wiling to help with that.
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>>62892955
Why are you telling us about it? Do it.
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>>62892921
the enforcement doesnt matter its the legality

it is enforced in europe/uk and USA

the fact is that this is the GPL intention

just like laws theres laws against murder it doesnt prevent someone from killing but it still is against the law
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>>62892955
yes write unique man pages for the attention whore project that brings nothing to the table when the openbsd pages already exist

mirbsd brought more to the table for fuck's sake
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>>62892950
I misspell too, shit happens, no big deal.
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>>62892955
the majority of documentation of openBSD is appliciable if that helps
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>>62892967
GPL is nothing without enforcement, and it can't happen anywhere but the US.

Say it with me now: FSF doesn't have any power outside the US, and precious little inside since none of the courts have ever been tested in court as a result of settling out of court.
>murder
This discussion is old hat, go search the archives for previous BSD threads.
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>>62892989
Here is a rocking idea, license the new manpages as FDL.
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>>62893016
>never tested in court

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/08/court-rules-gpl-part-of-a-well-pleaded-case/

BTFO
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can't believe they got rid of theo.c
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>>62881877
Which removes the non-free unauditable binary blobs that ship in the openbsd kernel, yes.
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>>62894178
guess what, you most likely have hardware with built-in firmware that's unauditable too
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>>62877150
Probably freebsd because it has the best hardware and software compatibility. OpenBSD has literally nothing except the audited packages, which are so few they might as well be ignored in favor of a non-retarded solution (i.e. every security methods that have been in use for decades but opentards refuse to adopt).
The real problem with BSDs is not the license, though. As a result of the license, nobody has contributed the driver support it needs, for instance. Just changing the license now won't really do anything I think.
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>>62894191
Not if you have libreboot :^)
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>>62894191
If you have a chinkpad with libreboot, no you don't
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>>62894191
Hi theo the rat. I see you still troll those threads huh.
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>>62894216
>>62894219
what about those network cards
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>>62894223
>theo the rat
I'll remember this one.
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>>62894223
lol still mad you got laughed off the mailing list
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>>62894247
My name isn't theo, so I have yet to be laughed out of a mailing list. I also have yet to be driven out of an entire BSD project for my continuous incompetence.
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>>62894228
You buy one compatible for your chinkpad, no big deal.
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>>62894178
firmwares not blobs in bsdland. OpenBSD refers to proprietary drivers as blobs.
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>>62894272
what is it with the fucking retards in this thread having 0 reading comprehension

>>62894274
if it works then it just means the firmware is built into it
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>>62894283
Which is a trick they used to hide under the rug the fact that they include binary blobs in the kernel: they renamed blob from what everyone agreed is called a blob (any sourceless, drop-in binary) with something else that they had already removed from the kernel (proprietary drivers). Then they can say nonesense like "other OS has binary blobs (see their page which uses the real definition of blob) and not us! (please don't mind the fact we changed the definition midway through the comparison)".
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>>62894316
>Which is a trick they used to hide under the rug the fact that they include binary blobs in the kernel
list just one that actually runs on your CPU
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>>62894284
Get a brain moran.
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they're not blobs in the kernel idiot. they're firmwares loaded into their own hardware that are not touching anything the kernel (lowest level) controls like cpu or memory
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>>62894316
>they renamed blob from what everyone agreed is called a blob

now i know you're new
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>>62894330
In your opinion (tm)
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>2017
>OpenBSD still based af
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>>62894349
>a literal honeypot
>based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>af
>>>/r/eddit/
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>>62894466
>muh honeypot
>4chan
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If *BSD were any good, they wouldn't have to use a shitty permissive license to get anyone to use it.
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>>62894519
>license is raison d'être
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No love for NetBSD?
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>>62894825
On that note, anyone used QNX? It's a commercial real-time OS, but the userland is basically from NetBSD.
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>>62894927
I use it on my phone, well BB10OS. I've been meaning to try out Neutrino.
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>>62894950
Neat. At my old job we used it to control some big power conversion equipment. It basically ran on a small embedded computer and executed a control loop, along with doing network communications.
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>>62886895
>GuixBSD
If that was built on top of FreeBSD, which has the best hardware and software compatibility, I would totally use it.
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How is openbsd for arm? Is raspberry pi supported?
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>>62886966
>>62886895
>/g/ - a cancerous place where everyone talks shit and pretends they know what they're talking about
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>>62889847
>308 posts
>46 posters
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>>62896432
Heaven forbid actual discussions take place.
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>>62896372
Don't forget about pretending to be willing to do shit, only to flake out when it comes to doing.
All these /fglt/ posters infecting BSD threads are all talk and no work.




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