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GIT GUD and GIT A SERVER edition
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Is SMB multichannel worth it? Is it easy to setup?
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r8 my pleb setup

xeon 1240v2
16gb ram
lsi sas hba
4x4tb wd red
4x3tb toshibas in sas enclosure
tplink managed switch

Running headless ubuntu with a few VMs, ftp/smb server, plex, backups and own cloud service.
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Pasta my ladies:

Discuss building, setting up your own homeserver and maintaining the services and demons on it.
>hostan. installan. rebootan. crying about uptime.

--> Quick Questions Quick Replies <--
>Why would I want a NAS/Homeserver?
If you ask why then you don't need it.

>I want a NAS/HTPC/Plex what should I get?
RPi3 or Odroid XU4/HC1.

>B-But muh ARM
Then check the onboard x86 like the J1900 or J3455 chipped ones.

>What's the best [software] for doing [ask]?
Specify you question and elaborate. If you want help put something from your side.

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>>63250229
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Tech illiterate here, how to connect to my home computer, from wifi uni, to bypass blocked sites.
currently, i'm using i2p, but i'm thinking in something like ssh/proxy if its make sense.
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>>63318905
Great pasta.
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>>63319274
set up a vpn server on your pc and connect your notebook through a vpn client to it.
basically all traffic between you and your home pc will most likely be encrypted and the uni will not know what it is. for the rest of the world you will appear as if you are actually going to the internet from your home.
the easiest solution is a vpn server on your pc and just leaving that running. its also the free option. or if you have a router running dd-wrt that will let you set up a vpn server on your router also for free which accomplishes the same thing but you wont have to turn on your pc obviously. its just the more advanced option.
theres also the option of buying vpn access but those all log your habbits. dont let anyone tell you that there is a vpn provider that does not keep logs and analyzes you.
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pleb here
how the fuck do I set up dual NIC in ubuntu? As soon as I activate the second NIC I lose internet connectivity.
I have a pretty simple setup, router to switch which leads to my server and desktop.
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I have an Odroid C2 with only USB 2.0 but can do h265 which I need for media center. Is really that performance hit if I use the USB 2.0 to connect to the drive with torrents if my internet connection sucks anyway? Is not like I can't do with the rest of my server needs in my 64 microSD and 64 eMMC.
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what are some cool services I can host on my home linux server? something with dashboards, metrics. etc maybe a page to show the weather from various sources...pls help im just trying to practice
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>>63319641
Thx
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>>63319274
If you want something secretive, Shadowsocks is the way to go.
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>tfw moving soon and will get more space
finally enough room to setup my filserver again

>>63319274
VPN?

>>63320191
just add up the streaming and network bandwidth usage and compare with the usb2.0 bandwidth limits?
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Hello /hsg/
A friend asked me to put together a build for plex, however I have never used plex myself so I don't quite know what parts need more emphasis.
All I know is that it requires a larger harddrive, but I don't know if it requires a beefy cpu or a lot of ram.
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>>63320737

Depends on if you need to transcode in terms of CPU
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>>63320749
most likely since he'll be streaming to a lot of different devices, I've read everything from a raspberry pi to a big server to a nas as far as builds go, so I'm not sure what the main bottleneck would be when building something.
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Is there any way to add H265 decoding to a Intel NUC who's graphics card doesn't support it?
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>>63318335
Why are so many of the larger home server halls based on Dell?
Nothing wrong with Dell, im just interested in the reasons.
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>>63321321
I mean why not HP Lenovo or Supermicro?
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>>63319734
What do you want to do?
Do you want to increase your bandwidth or tunnel traffic trough the nics?
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>>63321321
>>63321330
i would guess more available so cheaper for equivalent performance
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>>63321330
Dell server chassis are generally pretty well thought out.
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>>63321564

Less to do with that and more to do with corporate support they offer. That's why the likes of eBay is filled with them. From corporate upgrades, to corporate liquidation. Most of the servers you will find will be from companies that paid for a very expensive support contract for the machines that are being sold. Dell, HP, IBM, Lenovo.

Whiteboxes, not so much.
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Currently down an SSD because the old piece of shit I was using died and I haven't bothered to replace it yet. Everything's ZFS though so it's whatever.
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>>63321451
Moar bandwidth
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Yeah having 12 or more TB is fine but remember this: The day you gotta restore all 12+ TB from backup will be the day you realize that GB Ethernet is your bottleneck. Daily incremental backups, meh, doesn't really push GB that much, trying to cram full on images though will. Yes, taking a week to restore it all (remember there's shit like overhead and compression factored in) is a small price to pay compared to restoring it all from source (DVD/CD/Torrent/etc) but still a week is a week. Time is money and all that shit.
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>>63318335
I need to build a new router soon - my current one doesn't support AES-NI for PfSense 2.5.

Does anyone here use VyOS as a home router? From an initial overview it doesn't look sophisticated enough to replace PfSense.
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>>63318342
>Is SMB multichannel worth it?
Are you limited by a single CPUs worth processing power? Then yes, otherwise no.

>Is it easy to setup?
Assuming its VMs on ESXi with VMXNET3 NICs

Set-NetAdapaterAdvancedProperty -DisplayName 'Receive Side Scaling' -DisplayValue 'Enabled'

>>63318335
no one cares about your shitty lists

>>63318905
or your shitty arm boards you poorfag

>>63319641
>basically all traffic between you and your home pc will most likely be encrypted and the uni will not know what it is
It will you retard, everthing does DPI nowadays. My FTD appliances have no problem detecting things like OpenVPN. And they will assume you're torrenting.

>>63319734
>i dont know how routing works
>or i dont know how to configure LACP
>i'm so retarded I cant even provide the request information for someone to help me
>but look at me, I run linux it must mean i know about computers
you are the cancer killing /g/

>>63321330
>why not supermicro
Because it is shit people pulled out of the trash at work. OPs pic is of pure old as fuck trash 2950s and the like. Not a chassis they bought with the idea of upgrading it in the future.

>lenovo
literally no one uses them

>>63321625
>i dont understand what appliances are

>>63321970
>being surprised that consumergrade SSDs die
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>>63322805
>Because it is shit people pulled out of the trash at work.
You're a fucking idiot.
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>>63322805
>>>/out/
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>>63322585
I though IPFire was the go to for replacing pfsense in routers, not vyos.
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>>63322805
posters like you are the absolute worst
please go away
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>>63322890
>IPFire
I havent looked a lot at that. VyOS should in theory support the same general stuff, but with less features. I'll check out IPFIre.
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>>63322831
>>63322889
>>63322898
This, the guy is probably bait.
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>>63322831
nigger it is a shit ton of dell 2950s, some cisco 2950s and equally old routers. it is all trash

do you want to know how this is all trash? because he tons tons of it and it is all powered off.

you see those huge cisco 4006 switches? they went end of sale in 2004 and are only good as space heaters. even the 4500s which replaced them are almost end of life and no one is deploying new ones.

go through his flickr and fine me piece of equipment which is worth having

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cybernbd/

>>63322889
>>63322898
>i have stacks of shit too
no one cares about your raspi plex box or stacks of shit either
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>>63322350
If you have one storage machine, why aren't you just restoring your backup to it over USB3 or SATA?

If you have multiple machines, where is the problem with that either? So it's a replicated or cloud storage setup, you attach / copy the backup and it's available on the first machine and already establishing parity quickly on the internal drive) while replicating over the network with spare BW ASAP - maybe this will take even more than a week if ALL the other drives from the pool aren't local, but it may not even matter if typical usage isn't really keeping 1GBE busy for most of the day.
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>>63323037
>>i have stacks of shit too
imply harder faggot.
you're still cancer. fuck off and kill yourself. no one gives a shit about your opinions.
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>>63323060
>i wish i could be one of the few fags on this shitty general who actually has real servers and can provide quality advice
you want to know how i'm the only person who should be in these threads? because i can answer questions like >>63318342

all of you retards are just larping that running plex on some arm board is a server
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Good UPS' and good brands under 200-250$?
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>>63323037
I was talking about your opinion on supermicro boards. Fucking moron.
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>>63323037
>go through his flickr and fine me piece of equipment which is worth having

Lets see your setup then.
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>>63323093
>I was talking about your opinion on supermicro boards
i didnt post one you retard.

>>63323115
a pair of dual xeon e5-2600 boxes with a catalyst 3750e which is actually powered on all the time. i've posted it countless times in these threads
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>>63323149
HAHAHHAHAHA

People in glass houses.
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>>63318335

plebian with a QNAP 451 for filesharing etc. Apparently supports VM's etc. but i wouldn't put the hardware up to it and the proprietary QNAP OS i find incredibly irritating to use. I also think the hardware RAID might be a disaster waiting to happen. I thought about building a dedicated tower or something out of a bunch of old parts i have sitting in the closet but slightly dubious that i lack the knowledge necessary to set it all up properly on the OS side of things as i've not had much linux experience. Is it worth the change?
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>>63323149
>i didnt post one you retard.
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>>63323149
Ugh. It's you. The insufferable know nothing know it all.
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>>63323187
> Is it worth the change?
I can't entirely make out what "change" you want from what the QNAP offers.

Also, is that a model that actually does HW raid? Most QNAPs I've seen do linux mdadm RAID, 'cause it sucks less than hw raid in general.
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>>63323085
>more implying
you're trying too hard, kid. go be autisticly retarded somewhere else. you havent even been close with any of your fallacies and mediocre insults.
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>>63323149

This is HSG. Unless you're going to post actual pictures of your home setup, fuck off.
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>>63323199
corporations rarely buy supermicro unless they happen to be appliances

>>63323210
>The insufferable know nothing know it all.
Funny because i was the only one in this thread who had any experience with things like RSS or SMB multichannel

>>63323232
I did you retard. you think bixnood.net is work?
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>>63323215

Sorry I mean in terms of being able to set up extra services on it and fuck with the hardware a bit more without being stuck inside QNAP OS or whatever their own linux environment
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>>63323239
>I did you retard. you think bixnood.net is work?
That's not a picture of your home server. It's a picture of your server management. Post your actual boxes, in the room they're in.
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>>63323239
>corporations rarely buy supermicro unless they happen to be appliances
Which doesn't detract from the fact you said they were shit. You fucking moron.
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>>63323249
happy you retard

>>63323264
I never said they were shit you retard. I own two. I said the stuff in OPs pic is shit people pulled out of the trash at work. l2reading comprehension.
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>>63320737
i have been running 720p video on a T61 thinkpad with 2gb of ram. it's not too demanding so i would focus on power consumption more than CPU power
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>>63323281
>happy you retard
No. Post the room.
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>>63323281
>I never said they were shit you retard. I own two. I said the stuff in OPs pic is shit people pulled out of the trash at work. l2reading comprehension.
funny you say this when you imply the same, you retarded hypocrite, fuck out of here and kys
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>>63323242
It's not too hard, but what about just doing another thing and using an additional Linux box (ODroid or some x86 or whatever you like) and experiment with that while you leave the QNAP machine alone for now (well, you can mount shares from it over SMB or NFS, I just mean you leave the storage on it for now)?
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>>63322805

Oh hey look that faggot spic who uses cracked proprietary software he can't afford.
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>>63323320
i was talking about dells in the very next sentence you retard, and in the sentence after that talked about how they were purchased without a care of being able to upgrade them in the future.

now stay mad that you have the reading comprehension skills of a nigger.

>>63323338
>i wish i had nice things
>the post
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adding 4th esxi host today
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>>63323368

Yo Jose still running NTP servers on VMs with virtualized software clocks?
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>>63323368
> No dude I'm totally rich
> Cracked Vspehre

Keep telling yourself that dude.
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>>63323368
>implying samefag
you implied i was using some kind of hardware just because i told you to gtfo cus you're a massive faggot.
the only mad person here is you, going around using fallacies and trying to insult people because you think saying one thing tells you everything about a person. and you talk about reading comprehension? lmao.
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>>63323425
>still cant make an argument
>still this assblasted he has nigger tier reading comprehension skills
>still couldnt answer the first response in this thread

>>63323420
>still doesnt know what a crack is
>still doesnt even have the hardware to run it
>still only has a raspi with plex
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>>63323281

Why haven't you managed to take any new pictures in two years?
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>>63323502
>implying this hard
again, the only assblasted nigger here is you with your hypocritical implications.
and you're so far up your own ass you think this is actually an argument and cant see there's at least 3 people replying to you? pathetic.
keep regurgutating your inane bullshit, doesnt change the fact you're a fucking hypocritical faggot that got all defensive when called out.
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>>63323372
Those G6 or G7? hex cores hopefully to make the power draw of those worth it?
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>>63323281

> No dude I'm totally rich
> Muh cluster
> Potato quality picture of this motherboard proves it

>>63323521

Because he is on the run from ICE.
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Anyone managed to build a recent version of Samba 4 with fruit vsf and the fullsync patch?
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>>63323521
Because hardware doesnt change much. Removed 1 GPU and added an extra dual 10GbE NIC. And changed some 8GB DIMMs to 16GB DIMMs. Who the fuck cares.

>>63323547
>still cant make an argument
>still just autistically screaching

>>63323565
again, not a spic. i have a wall eagle
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children pls
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>>63323625
>Who the fuck cares.
It's obvious that you don't actually have a home server if you can't even take pictures of it.
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>>63323640
I just took a picture of it. you can see the SC743 chassis and M28SACB behind the wall eagle.
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>>63323625
>still thinks there's an argument
i called you retarded, you implied i used some hardware which im not, i called you hypocrit, you got all defensive, and now you keep running in circles like a fucking retard.

>autism
>reading comprehension
im gonna pull a meme reply here because it's obivously fitting for you, projecting much?
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>>63323655
nigger please, no amount of damage control is going to make up for the fact you larp that your raspi is a server.
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>>63323653
you're sad
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>>63323585
> managed to build a recent version of Samba 4
Sure.

> fruit vsf
Apple can keep their OSX toys.

> fullsync
Seems horrid, why do you even want to patch samba for that? May I suggest syncthing or if it's a backup some duplicati frontend or borgbackup or such?
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>>63323625
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>>63323667
happy?
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>>63323666
and no matter the amount you try to imply im using some hardware for some usage because i called you a retard will change the fact you're a massive retarded hypocritical faggot
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>>63323625
Can't see shit nigger.
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>tfw not enough money for an extremely overpowered setup with a 16 core Threadripper with 64+ GB of RAM and an 11GB GPU
Why live?
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>>63323672

Time Machine.
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>>63323696
go away you /v/irgin

>>63323693
stay mad that i actually have hardware and you have a raspi
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why do you need so much power for a home server? I am struggling to max out my i5 with 16gb
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>>63323690

I've seen that picture before. Lets say I believe that setup is yours its still miles cheaper than a proper VSphere license let me tell you.
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>>63323690
Again, this is a two year old picture.

https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0510/43/1445982737418.jpg

Stop posting old pictures and post something new.
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>>63323707
>deflecting this hard and trying to change it to a e-penis competition
seems i hit a nerve there. projecting nigger.
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>>63323702
>Time Machine.
Very shitty backup software tied into the crappy Apple / OSX software. Completely hate it.

I don't expect you to move away from OSX but perhaps try something less horrible like: https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ ?
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>>63323728
>Lets say I believe that setup is yours its still miles cheaper than a proper VSphere license let me tell you.
Nigger, vSphere licenses are $200 for home use via VMUG. Pic related was over $6k of disks.

>>63323734
>still angry his epeen is so small
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>>63323751

I didn't asked if you liked or not. I'll keep to the native backup method of the operating system.
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>>63323766
ANother two year old image....

https://i.rbt.asia/g/image/1492/00/1492005984785.png
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>>63323037
>>63323037
Nigger if you're so fucking smart you'd realise I just pulled this picture off google to start a /hsg/ thread. God forbid you could contain your endless bouts of autism fuelled rage but god dammit son get your shit together and shut the fuck up.
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>>63323811
no shit. notice how it says bixnood.net and how all my other images say the same thing?
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>>63323281
>that setup
>blurry picture
fucking moron
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>>63323812
i believe that makes us four people calling that guy a faggot now. i guess we should stop feeding his autism now.
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>>63323707
>says someone who's never heard of the phrase GPGPU in 2017
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What the hell do you guys do at home to warrant these big power-suckers?
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>>63323833

Post new images.
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>>63323833
>bixnood.net
> Costa Rica registrar
> I'm not a spic
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>>63323904
>> Costa Rica registrar
lol wut
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>>63323560
g6

hex cores, power consumption normal and not bad at all
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>>63323866
Shitposting on /g/ mostly
Seriously though I have a pretty minimal setup
>>63318764
I've barely noticed a change in electricity bills. CPU uses between 35-100w or so and the drives probably 10w each during heavy use. Still gives me over 20tb storage and a half-decent cpu.
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>>63323779
So you'd rather try to use proprietary *non-native* protocol extensions on a patched samba to deal with the idiotic and incompetent Apple backup method that basically just has these protocol extensions to periodically break 3rd party products, rather than use a more efficient more flexible backup software that doesn't even need OSX nonsense or special patches to samba?

Well, good luck...
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REMINDER this fat pedo neckbeard weeaboo faggot thinks he his hot shit because he has a cluster of shitberry pis

DO NOT ENABLE THIS FUCKER
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>>63324102
>I've barely noticed a change in electricity bills
then you're doing it wrong

>>63324137
weebs are the worst, as are all these raspi fags
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>>63324130

It is a jail dedicated for backup dude. Isolated. The specs are open source.

Cool down a bit okay? More knowledge less religion.
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>>63324137
you sound like a jealous faggot. fuck off spic nigger, he's probably cooler than you
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>>63324148
you wont find that here, just freetards and poorfags autistically screaching at anything non-free
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>>63324137

AFAIK he is doing more interesting tech stuff with his PIs than the faggot running Next->Next->Finish pirated software on (arguably) his oversized oven.
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>>63323372
>proliants
my nigga
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hey rate my setup /hsg/
it run a webserver (with nextcloud and few other shit) and a seedbox
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>>63324295
Nigga are you me?
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>>63324147
>then you're doing it wrong
So you're saying I need three dual Xeon housefires for 4 Plex users, SMB, FTP and qbittorrent? kys yourself
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>>63322805
This guy is aids.
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>>63324342
Actually, most people have pi as home server, but don't post pics because it's boring

Pic related is my ghetto media center, running Kodi/OpenELEC
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>>63324417
>ghetto media center, running Kodi/OpenELEC
Nigga, you are me.
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>>63322805
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>>63324148
> It is a jail
I Jail doesn't apply to either time machine or the smb extensions, does it?

> dedicated for backup
You wouldn't guess what alternative backup software that sucks less does.

> The specs are open source.
That's not what open source means to begin with. It refers to implementation sauce code.

Apart from that BIG problem I don't even think it's a properly documented open specification either.
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>Raspberry Pi hate
But look how cute they are :')
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>>63324883
kys
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Reminder not to reply to bait. If he is insulting you and you don't know why, ignore.
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>>63325069
im insulting these people because they are larpers pretending their shitty hardware is a server. raspis are never servers. phones have more resources than them
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>>63325099
Anything is a server with the right software. Get over yourself.
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>>63325123
>desperately trying to justify your poorfaggotry
i spend more on electricity in a single month than you spent on your raspi.
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>>63325099
>raspis are never servers
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>>63321321
Tons of companies used Dell machines and when they get rid of them many enter the second hand market. In some areas HP is also just as popular/common. Supermicros though are less common on average, so the ones that are out there tend to be more expensive for similarly specced systems from Dell or HP.
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>>63325197
I don't own a raspi, keep raging.
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>>63325197
>i spend more on electricity in a single month than you spent on your raspi.

Are you actually boasting about wasting money on electricity you don't have to? Because I have some magic beans I can sell you.
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>>63325099
I'ma serve my hot balls into your mouth while you sleep. That makes me a servers fucking deal with it.
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>>63324417
>most people have pi as home server
you must mean "retarded people"
because only a fucking retard would rely on 3-4MB/sec max transfers
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>>63325197
Be more subtle or end your miserable existence you waste of fucking space.
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>>63325099
> raspis are never servers
Of course they can be, and they can be SUFFICIENT servers too.

You just don't know the definition of server. Try define:server or something.

> phones have more resources than them
They also have more processing power than all the servers in like 1975 combined (1980+ for GPU I think).
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Can anyone give me some good advice

I want to setup a Kodi server on one machine that has more power, but no space for drives, and have it connected to a NAS that is not very powerful, but has plenty of space for drives

Would this work? And how would I go about doing it?
I was thinking just setting up a headless Kodi on the one machine, then something like Nas4Free on the other and just making sure the NAS gets mounted on the Kodi machine

Also how does streaming remotely work? I don't believe Kodi supports streaming from outside the LAN and Ive heard anons say that its possible to setup a web client for streaming from the Kodi box from the internet
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>>63325295
Fucking mount the media on the server that is running Kodi and call it a day. I don't know about streaming Kodi outside LAN but on Plex it's a simple port forward.
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>>63325295
>Would this work? And how would I go about doing it?
Yes. You can set up a DLNA/UpNp server and use the files that way.

Or you can use a network filesystem like SMB or NFS and use that to mount the remote share locally and treat it like a local share. Kodi also can scan and access SMB shares (maybe NFS too, I don't remember) without them being mounted as local drive.
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>>63325099
mad hypocrit autist please leave
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cant we have some rule to only allow real servers in these threads?

I dont want to hear form shitbberry pi fags and weeaboo larpers
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>>63323049
Well I would use USB3 or ESata if my backup device used them (it don't) GB Ethernet is as good as it gets. (NAS ) Also while I'm sure I could toss a single 10TB drive into a external enclosure it'd be a waste of money cause fuck I got 12TB and a single 10TB drive is over $400 (oh and wait, at the time I bought the nas 10TB drives didn't fucking exist)
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>>63325910
>>63323049
Plus I wasn't really complaining, just pointing out a fact, GB Ethernet will be a bottle neck.
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>>63325295
>streaming from outside the LAN

Yes you can, it's just a matter of port forwarding and allowing connection for WAN on kodi.
I hope you have a very good connection on both ends, otherwise I'd advise Plex, as it has on the fly downsampling, and you can set a custom resolution and quality to better fit your shitty bandwidth.
If you go the Kodi way, make sure you also download Yatse on your mobile for added comfyness.
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>>63323239
Nice fucking plug you piece of shit.
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>>63325275
I can transfer files at 13MB/s in WAN and 32MB/s in LAN.
Plus it's not really an issue, because most of my transfers are bunch of small files.

But only a retard would use a cheap, small, silent and power efficient machine as a HOME server, right?
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>>63325910
> GB Ethernet is as good as it gets. (NAS )
Wait, your NAS only has GBE? Almost all I can think of have eSATA or USB3 to dump data out to the drive(s) you got as replacement. Even home models tend to have such ports.

Apart from that, a possible flaw in your backup strategy is perhaps that your data isn't already readily available when the NAS is online. That's the reason why you'd wait a week for the data to be "restored" rather than it just taking a week until you are at full redundancy again.

> Also while I'm sure I could toss a single 10TB drive into a external enclosure it'd be a waste of money
It'd just be a simple way to make it so your backup isn't limited by GBE speeds but can run at eSATA or USB speeds.

It doesn't strike me as more of a waste of money than other options. If you do something to be able to copy more TB more quickly, this isn't really a particularly expensive method.
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I'd gladly take a week to restore all my data vs the months it'd take me just to re-rip my box set of Law & Order (100+ dvds). Did it once, that was enough. And before anyone says "Torrents" I tried that, all torrents at the time all sucked, either quality was shit or they had hard coded subs. No thanks. To me if you gonna do something, do it least half way decent.
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>>63318335
How fucking rich are you to waste this much money and then put your fucking chassis on the floor?

I really hope I just need to lurk moar and this photo was not yours OP...
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>>63318335
allow me to roast you further
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>>63327679
Thats the last of his problems anon. All of that stuff is 2000s era shitboxes which have no functional use. He cant even power all of that off a 30A circuit.
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>>63322585
>That desk

Where do I buy one of those beauties?
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>>63328283
bump
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Small apartment livin' with my R710.
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>>63328283
Oh nvm, I thought it was one continuous desk. It's just two slightly curved desks opposite one another.
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Two servers in this pic, R710 and SC1425.

R710 has 12Cores 24Threads, 64GB Ram, 2x146GB 15RPM SAS RAID 1, 2x500GB SATA RAID 1, purchased for $250.

Running Gentoo, with docker.
Docker containers running Gitlab, and gitlab runner at this time, I have plans to install owncloud and teamspeak(teamspeak does not have a docker container at this time(i dont think)).

I have a blog running on a digitalocean server and a discourse running on a digitalocean server, I will be bringing them home to the R710 and running everything through a 5$ digitalocean reverse proxy.

SC1425 is currently a pfsense firewall, it is consuming 120W at idle. I will be buying a dedicated hardware for that consumes 7W at idle when I can.

It will be interesting to play with kubernets/ docker swarm with a few servers but that is at least a year away for me.
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>>63329277
>10/100 switch
>so cheap it doesnt even have link LEDs
>consumer grade AP
it to the trash it goes
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>>63329323
FS726T
Google for the actual pic. It has 2x1GB ports, they are reserved for streaming to a steam link from main PC.

It is old, but gets the job done for my needs at this time.
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I am looking to purchase a vpn service for the usual torrents and privacy and run it off my pfsense box by just copying lvl1 techs guide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jYibgeAV0Y
I have no experience purchasing a vpn has anyone here had good experience with private internet access VPN? will it be fine running it off a i5 650 box also?
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>>63329277
>Well-kitted R710 for $250
Tell me where I can buy these.

>Gitlab on home server
That's a bit overkill. You should just look at setting up a barebones remote git repo.

>Constrained to running docker containers on Gentoo
I suppose if it fits your needs, sure. ESXi free is a bit more versatile at the cost of some overhead.
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>>63329726
I got super lucky on Craigslist. I received an email from velocitytechsolutions.com recently that was doing a r710 for 263$ I don't remember the specs very well.
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>>63329726
It was a gen 11 r710 the idrac6 module on it had really old firmware with a firmware bug that killed the module and froze the whole server. If the firmware version is < 1.56 and you switch off lan access it kills the card. I spent 100$ to fix that and the 2x500GB hard drives are my own. So it cost me a bit more than 250$
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Why are the server cabinets so expensive :|
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This is my shit. It gets the job done.
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>>63330119
That's a shitty TP-link 8 Port switch, and if i'm not mistaken it's the 100 mb version.
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>>63330143
no its 10mb
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>>63330102
If you have patience and willing to travel to a nearby major city you can find good deals on craigslist.

For example 100$ for 42u server racks come up on Craigslist LA. Some are even enclosed.
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>>63330102
>Why are the server cabinets so expensive :|
they're not relatively. 1-2k usually new. the equipment which goes in them is expensive and it isnt uncommon for a full rack to cost more than 100k. with that said used ones for cheap are easily available.
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>>63330161
No because I will melt and my how will burn down in the summertime
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Got a server running. It's an old rig from a coworker who gave me the computer -- 8gb RAM, i5 cpu, integrated graphics, 1tb hdd, kinda /trash/ but still ok for basic hosting and stuff. Currently have Arch running on it. Here's a picture of me SSH'd into it with tmux and rtorrent running. I hand-coded my startup script.


Any fun / cool daemons I should run that'll actually be interesting and helpful?
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I'm planning to build a homelab, mostly to host 3 VM (One always running and the others on or off depending of the case)
Are those E5 v3 ES CPUs useable on a Supermicro board?
How is the state of Raw Device Mapping, usb and PCIe passtrought in KVM?
I wanted to use ESXi, but for different reasons (mostly related to some OS I want to run on one of these virtual machines) I gave up on the idea.
Though on using a X10drl-i mobo cause no audio (I pretend to use a USB interface/dac for it) and normal ATX size but I'm also looking at the X10dai
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yeah, still no fresh pic alas
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>>63324137
>thinks he his hot shit because he has a cluster of shitberry pis
I think I've never seen Sysadmin bragging about his setup. He always replies politely to awnser, though.
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>>63324883
I think ths is a pretty good idea. Although I think it could have its drawbacks and I cam't see them.
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Step it up faggots
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Stupid question, if I get an Odroid XU4, do I just connect the hard-drive to it and leave it lying on my desk, is that safe?
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>>63332648
Aye, why wouldn't it?
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>>63318335
What do you do with all those things?
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>>63332648
No it will slowly gain a mind of it's own and put its thumb up your ass while you sleep.
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>>63332648
You could put one or both in a box (your own or sold as accessory by hardkernel), but you don't have to.
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>>63332830
This, a case is a nice touch but optional.
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>>63331265
neck yourself pedo scum
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Page 9 wew
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>>63332192
Is that thing bathed in oil?
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>>63337137
Yeah mineral oil as far as I know
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Server:
1. i7-3770, 28GB RAM, 500GB SSD (OpenStack)
2. i7-2600K, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD (OpenStack)
3. i3-4130, 32GB RAM, 120GB SSD / 5 x 6TB WD Red / 2 x 8 TB Seagate Archive (Ubuntu)

Networking:
PCEngines APU (pfsense)
Ubiquity UNIFI AC LR
Netgear GS108Ev3
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>>63337548
Cute. What do the openstack machines do?
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>>63338228
Nothing. I've only got those two PCs from a friend today and try to install it.
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>>63337178
why? is it running overclocked at 20°C?
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>>63338495
It's a fucking meme. I think he OCed to 1.4ghz or something I dont know.
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>>63338539
I bet it is. I was asking because I watched some dude using huge heatsinks on a rpi with a small cooler and after certain point the gain is meaningless. And I think it was running with a small overclock at 35°C which is pretty fucking great for just air cooling it with a random heatsing scavenged from an old motherboard.
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>>63338565
There is literally no point beyond 'durr look at what I can do' or as an experiment. Probably costs more to drop that piece of shit into mineral oil than the pi is worth.
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>>63338609
yeah, anyways going for a cheapo bigger heatsink and one of those small coolers that come with the heatsink/cooler kit sold for rpi and then doing a small overclock seems to be worth it if you are using it as an htpc/kodi
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>>63318335
the 2.5" seagate hdd on my small nuc server is starting to do the click of fucking death.

i'm looking for a 2tb model, any reliable brands for 24/7 usage? i'm using it as a web server and torrent box, so speed is not a priority.
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>>63338712
Any
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>>63338712
Seagate running 24/7, no wonder its clicking to death.

Buy a HGST NAS or WD Red.
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>>63339114
thanks. do they make them in 2.5" form?
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>>63339134
https://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-WD10JFCX-WD/dp/B00J4SVJ4U

I don't think more than 1TB for WD reds.
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>>63339134
Or go with Seagate again but with a more reliable version of their drives. This one is 4TB and comes with 3yr warranty: https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronWolf-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST4000VN008/dp/B01LOOJBQY
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>>63339212
>>63339134
Oh shit, I don't think they make them in 2.5.
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>>63339229
no worries. i think i'm fucked if i want to find a reliable 2tb 2.5" drive, but I really don't want to have another PSU laying around for an external drive
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>>63339114
>WD Red
>recommending slow overpriced drives
Disgusting
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>>63339264
Its more about reliability than speed...
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>>63339472
>>63339264
ay gents, fastest spinning metal in your opinions? I know the benchmark site, but personal experience here is preferred t b h
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>>63339114
>>63339212
>>63339229
>>63339264
>>63339472
i think i'll go with a 3.5" drive in an external case, a la wd elements.

i have regular power outages and i think that's what killed the drive, so i think it's time for me to get a small ups too. what do you guys use? is it possible to configure linux to communicate with the ups and shut down safely when an outage is detected?
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>>63339472
Even so, the constant loading/unloading wd reds do is shit for the drive. It's literally a wd green with some firmware changes and longer warranty.

>>63339510
As far as consumer drives go then WD black, some toshibas are pretty nippy and seagates. Of course there are still the 10k and 15k rpm drives.
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>>63339472
I've been using old wd greens for years with no problems.
Just keep the money you saved from buying reds for buying an extra green as a spare and you'll be golden for many years.
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>>63339988
>i dont know what RV sensors are
>i dont know what UREs are
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>>63340151
no, because those haven't been a problem for the past 8 years that these drives have been running.
Any modern raid system has a way to check and correct errors, and it's a desktop drive so it shouldn't be moved when its on anyways.
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>>63331265
>Dalian
Yes~
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>>63339134
Both HGST and WD have 2.5" NAS drives, but they're not quite as cost effective per GB as the 3.5" ones.

As far as I know they're equally robust, though.
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>>63340922
>i still dont know what either of those things are
>i dont understand how RAID cards work either
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>>63341052
Woops, didn't see the 2TB requirement before.

Well, the HGST is 1.8TB and WD still has a 2TB SSD - but I'd guess that one is too expensive to consider.
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>>63341009
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>>63319734
Google network bonding
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>>63341009
a 5.6 magnitude earthquake just happened off the east coast of japan and this is the image you choose to post
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>>63340151
Reds are overpriced greens with some firmware mods. If you buy reds over HGST you should consider killing yourself to save your parents the embarrassment for raising such a naive cumguzzling waste of space.
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>>63341291
>using pfense just to run one fucking 192.168 address block

holy shit you are a fucking joke
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>>63341718
>i dont know what RV sensors or UREs are either
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>>63341747
the weeb server name that follows no theme didn't give it away?
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>>63318335
who the fuck taught you cable management? that looks like hammered shit, buy a fucking rack
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What would be the best two drive nas server on the market for a house. Needing one bad
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>>63342184
Suggesting an ODroid XU4 (+ dock or stock CloudShell2).

Has more processing power / RAM / bandwidth than most home NAS with the power consumption and price like a home NAS, and it will run your own Linux or BSD.
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>>63341753
>muh memes
kys
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>>63342230
Also, "the best" 2 drive NAS is a TS-251+ or DS718+ or better, but I think it's just very silly to pay that much when you mainly need a storage NAS... plus you could probably build something very much like that cheaper if you really need the processing power.
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>>63342287
Yeah no fuck those prebuilt overpriced proprietary NAS systems they're a fucking ripoff.
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>>63342435
They at least DO provide longer term support with a fancy web GUI and some tricks and some decent software - but it's not really a good deal if you can handle your Linux / BSD, no.
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>>63341131
Who the hell uses raid cards in 2017?
You'd have to be retarded to use anything other than software raid.
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>>63342565
>software raid
>2009
OK
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you richfags and your rack mount servers and shit.

BEHOLD!!! My game server!!!

Tyan Tiger MP mobo
Dual Athlon MP 1.2GHz processors w/Thermaltake jet fucking engine hsf's.
3GB RAM
CentOS 5.10
64MB Geforce 2MX
Some random gig ethernet card
a pair of old hard drives I had laying around.

It's my Quakeworld (runes and grappling hook) and UT99 server I play on with the kids. It used to be my webserver, then it was my SIEM machine (old version of OSSIM before they dropped 32 bit support), and a test server for various shit (Magento, SugarCRM, OpenERP, Liferay, etc)
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>>63342565
>i'm too poor to afford nice things
>the post
>>
RAID
IS
NOT
FOR
BACKUP
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>>63342570
>Implying that I used them in raid this whole time
>>63342600
>"hardware raid"
>nice
pick one.
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>>63342609
>I was only pretending to be stupid: The Post
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>>63342612
Do you realy expect a wd green to start having issues in less than 2 or 3 years?
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>>63342609
>i wish i wasnt poor
>the post
i bet my raid card cost more than your entire shitbox. also not included was a 8GB ram upgrade and a BBU

>>63342639
yes
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>>63342639
>he doesn't rotate his spinning rust bi-monthly
wew
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>>63318764
>xeon 1240v2
Gen 8
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>>63342645
>I spent a lot of money therefore it's good
yes it does cost more, because you dont need a 1.2 grand card just to connect some hard drives up
And I can guarantee you that zfs does everything better than that raid card.
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>>63342600
>buying things just because it's nice

zfs > *
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>>63342685
>i dont understand why would you want battery backed RAM cache
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>>63342694
also, ZFS is shit and doesnt scale beyond a single node, enjoy losing access to your data if a server goes offline. and stay jelly of Microsoft S2D/SOFS.
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>>63342704
zfs already does ram caching, and I already have a ups
none of that cost me 1.2k
Plus the ups keeps my entire network going for over an hour, or keeps the entire host + my network for 20 minutes.
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>>63342729
>zfs already does ram caching, and I already have a ups
doesnt do you a damned bit of good if the computer crashes or the UPS runs out of runtime. a raid card's BBU lasts for days. now stay retarded anon and keep on being poor.
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>>63342739
The computer would turn off before that point
And I have never had esxi or freenas crash
Plus it's not like the OS on the raid controller can't crash
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>>63342761
>a computer would turn off
>due to a kernel panic

>i've never expereinced a purple screen
cool story bro and stay jelly of nice things.
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>>63342599
Eh, why not. I'm sure it does its job.
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>>63342681
Yeah well spotted I guess?
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>>63342779
Never had a kernel panic or purple screen of death on me
Only time I've ever seen esxi psod was when someone was fucking with the OS itself trying to get some 3rd party hack of a driver working
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>>63343212
ESXI <5.1
Cloud Hosted Router image from mikrotik, try to turn the VM off ;)
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>>63342929
I work for an HPE distributor. I saw that v2 proc and figured as much. The Gen 10 is really nice. You could pick up a refurb one for under 1k.
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>>63343379
>The Gen 10 is really nice
Not that anon but I heard Gen10 has some drawbacks and not linux official support behind Red Hat.

I got one myself not trying to shit you, just in case.
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>>63343455
I didn't know that. I don't work on the software side, only hardware. No shit.
Gen 9 might be the way to go but gen 8 is still good. I've been waiting for a cheap one to come in stock.
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>>63343535
That's what they say, that Gen8 it is still kicking ass. If you ask me, I can't be mad at the Gen10 since I got it because it was only 30 bucks more than the Gen8. But still it done some weird things + HPE web doesn't help a lot.
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>>63343550
What RAID config do you use on it?
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>>63343581
No one. I have 3x3TB disks and 2TB disk. I do a monthly backup in an external one.
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>>63343603
So you only have one copy of each file? Well, that helps to create more usable space, but isn't server used more to backup files? Right now all you have is a JBOD. Which is great, but if you have drive failure, you will lose all that data. What kind of data are you hoarding?
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>>63324470
Eat shit.

https://developer.apple.com/library/content/releasenotes/NetworkingInternetWeb/Time_Machine_SMB_Spec/index.html
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>>63343638
At the start I was backing up my windows files, then I though it was a little silly having the disks in my PC so I bought a few, discarded other and move all to the NAS, then monthly I take a full copy of it.

Yes, I know I should have another backup, but I just switched jobs, maybe I will get another external or something. Also, the oldest disk in the Gen10 is the 2TB one, which is likely 3 years or so, and it is the seedbox disk so I'm not worried. Other ones has from a few months to 1 year max.
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>>63343670
>Eat shit.
Eat shit yourself. That's most definitely not an open specification.

> An open specification is a specification created and controlled, in an open and fair process, by an association or a standardization body intending to achieve interoperability and interchangeability. An open specification is not controlled by a single company or individual or by a group with discriminatory membership criteria. Copies of Open Specifications are available free of charge or for a moderate fee and can be implemented under reasonable and non-discriminatory licensing (RAND) terms by all interested parties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_specifications

Even if you give it the benefit of doubt and call this a "specification" rather than a quickly written down bunch of notes with "specification" in the title, it is still failing on every aspect that would make it an "open specification".
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>>63318335
Have a bunch of users copy/pasting the same file on a shared samba folder to multiple locations.

I have a conceptual misunderstanding of how samba shares work when running over a linux (btrfs) system.

I'm looking to make all of these duplicates hardlinks, would something like freedup work on a samba folder?

http://freedup.org/
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>>63344461
Yea, that should work. Doesn't really depend on SMB anyhow, it's just operating locally on BTRFS - right?
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>>63344526
Yeah exactly, I guess my question stems from a misunderstanding of how SMB works.

Is it emulating NTFS or some windows file system on top of btrfs? Or is it interpreting everything done at some higher level of abstraction and then replicating it on reads/writes?


For example, I've been making hard links on the windows command prompt on my samba share and they work perfectly, although windows hard links and linux hard links are very different.

If I make a hard link natively on the linux server's filesystem, will samba be able to interpret this when mounting the share on windows?
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>>63328914
>has server blade flopped out on the count
>shit every where

Don't get many guests do you
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I just got a gigabit connection. What should I do with it?
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>>63344625
intense shitposting
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>>63320737
I have an old dual core i5 and 4gb ram. It runs Plex and about 5 other services just fine... Even transcoding. Could be faster, but could also get away with a lot less.
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>Some generic Supermicro chassis
>E3-1270v5
>32GB DDR4
>2x 500GB Intel SSD
$200

Worth it?

Company I work for has been transitioning everything over to AWS, and after 2 painful years finally got it all figured out. Starting to sell off all the onsite equipment. Willing to sell to employees at discounted rate. Good deal or can I find cheaper?
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>>63344989
yes, even if you dismantle it for parts, fuck yes
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>>63345057

Yea, that's what I thought. Just don't know a lot about hardware since I am a code-monkey.

They said they'd even through in a small rack and some network equip if I wanted it. Will post pics during the work week when I pick it up.
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>>63344989
The RAM alone is worth twice that, that's a great deal dude.
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>>63342704
>>i dont understand why would you want battery backed RAM cache
You'd only suffer data corruption if the filesystem doesn't do everything atomically, which ZFS does.
Yes, you could potentially run into problems if some other server things that the server in question successfully recorded some data when it was actually just sticking it in the RAM cache, but you still won't end up with anything in an inconsistent state within a single machine.
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>>63344556
>Is it emulating NTFS or some windows file system on top of btrfs
No, it doesn't need to emulate a filesystem. From the client's point of view, SMB *is* the filesystem. The client tells SMB to do a particular operation on a particular file, that message gets sent to the server, and the SMB server software does it.
The only time the host's filesystem is relevant (apart from capabilities and limits) is if you're doing some kind of block-level storage (i.e. SAN instead of NAS).
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>>63345443
You do understand how cache works do you? Or how hard disks and things like NCQ work do you either?


>just lost 8GB of data
>nothing bad happened
this is how retarded you sound
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>>63345484
>You do understand how cache works do you? Or how hard disks and things like NCQ work do you either?
Do you understand what a write barrier is?
>Write new data
>barrier
>update pointer to new data
>if you crash before updating the pointer, then the pointer just points to whatever was there before the operation
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>>63345515
>i still dont understand what NCQ is
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I'd like to get a rackmount computer craigslist, they go for pretty cheap for older models.

Would it make sense to stream media from it to a 4k media player via cat6?
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>>63345518
>>>I don't understand what NCQ is
>>>when a write barrier is LITERALLY for the purpose of enforcing writes in a particular order even in the presence of NCQ
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>>63319274
Use https://git.io/vpn
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>>63318335
This will overheat.
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>>63345562
>i still dont understand what NCQ is

>>63347282
It cant even all be powered on at once even with a 30A outlet
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>>63345562
And here you go retard, even Oracle says it is possible

https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E18752_01/html/819-5461/gbbwl.html#gbctt
>If the pool cannot be recovered by the pool recovery method described above, you must restore the pool and all its data from a backup copy
>>
why are you still tolerating pifags and larpers here?
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>>63343379
gen10 is trash. Can't upgrade cpu, no iLO, slow processor for more money. HP really fucked it.
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>>63347377
microsever faggots are just as much larpers as pifags

stop enabling them
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>>63347401
Okay daddy
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>>63322585
comfy as fuck
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>>63347401
>home server thread
>bitches about people using low power devices
Wow you're a real fucking badass faggot aren't you
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>>63347460
>home server
>server

this is not fuking home TOY general

take your poorfag crap somewhere else
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>>63347490
It fulfills aremy requirements. Go start a 2000w housefire homeserver thread if it gets you off that much instead of shitting up a thread you have no interest in.
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>>63347460
if it isnt rack mountable, it isnt a real server
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>>63347501
also that weeb autist with raspis in rack mount cases doesnt count. they're still shitboxes of which he spent more on spray paint and shitty LCDs than he did on teh systems. If you want low power go get Xeon-d's in a MicroCloud chassis.
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>>63347494
no, fuck you poorfag. These threads used to be about REAL FUCKING SERVERS until you fucks started shitting them up with your shitberry pis and retarded HP microptoys

you cunts wouldnt last 2 minutes on /r/homelab before you got laughed out
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>>63347501
>needing a rack for homeserver
kekd
>>63347514
>HURRDURR WHY DONT YOU SPEND 3K ON A FTP SERVER YOU POORFAG
You should seriously consider suicide my man
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>>63347527
3k isnt a lot
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>>63347543
Then go buy one, be happy, start a thread about 3k servers and shit on everyone who spends 2999 and less on servers.
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>>63347569
t.poorfag larper

neck yourself
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>>63347569
I spent far more than 3k on my systems see >>63323149
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>>63347527
>Thinks 3K is enough for a server


nigger, i paid more than that for a fucking SWITCH
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>>63347569
try $30k poorfag

why the fuck are you even allowed to post if you haven't spent alt LEAST 10k per server?
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>>63347585
Stay mad

>>63347592
Amazing, congratulations on paying for something!

>>63347605
Wow so impressive
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>>63347401
>>63347490
>>63347501
>>63347514
>>63347543
>>63347585
>>63347586
>>63347592
>>63347605
[AUTISTIC SCREECHING]
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>>63347608
>>63347632
you might feel more comfortable in one of the phone threads, or arguing over ayymd over intel or ati vs nvidia
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>>63347645
>projecting
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>>63347652
they would be more in your budget
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>>63347661
ur mum is in my budget faggot
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>>63347681
exactly. all you can afford are obese old women anon. not anything nice.
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>>63347689
>hating your mother
now I truly see
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>>63347705
stay blown the fuck out, even with juvenile insults you fail miserably.
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>>63347723
>i hab blown u dafug out by derailing thread ;DDDDDDdd
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>>63347736
nigger im one of the few people in this thread with actual servers and the only one which could answer questions like >>63318342

As evidence by the 'your mom' failure of an insult, you're just some butthurt teenager thats angry others have nice things and know how to use them.
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Soap anons. Should I anon to the OP this section?

>Which disk is better for my homeserver?
The general opinion minus some details are that WD Greens are enough if you deactivate parkdrive, and WD Red are green overpriced. Also Toshiba and HGST are pretty good.

What do you think?
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>>63347824
your should tell poorfags, larpers, pifags and microserver cunts that they are not fucking welcome

inf act why the fuck are you doing the op, whats your experience? how much have you spent on your racks?
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>>63347806
I don't care what other people have. Ironically you're the one that started angrily shitposting about what others have or don't have. Hilarious right?
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>>63347840
>[AUTISM INTENSIFIES]
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>>63322585
why not opnsense? I have yet to setup a firewall / router but was planning on using opnsense because you don't need AES-NI
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>>63347824
Add a notice that SBC's are welcome and tell the other faggot to fuck off.
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>>63347865
But that's already on pasta. Check 3rd post:

>I want a NAS/HTPC/Plex what should I get?
RPi3 or Odroid XU4/HC1.

>B-But muh ARM
Then check the onboard x86 like the J1900 or J3455 chipped ones.
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>>63347865
Anon if you don't spend 12k on your server then you can't serve files.
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>>63347824
>i'm too lazy to read a datasheet
>please spoonfeed me

>>63347843
you clearly do care otherwise you wouldnt be so butthurt over it

>>63347859
>not using Cisco FTD

>>63347865
>i wish i could afford to spend more than $50
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>>63347888
>>please spoonfeed me
Is more about avoiding typical questions that are repeated really often.
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>>63347888
>autism strikes again
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>>63347899
Don't listen to that faggot and move on.
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what a shitshot
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I was waiting for page 9 but.

New thread, ladies.

>>63348103




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