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>Assemble a part list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and monitor suggestions; click on the blue title to see notes
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g
>How to install Win7 on Ryzen
https://pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

If you want help:
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs:
>NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE
>G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM)
>R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs
>R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use

RAM:
>Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
>Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports

GPUs:
>Consider Vega if you have a Freesync monitor
>Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon)
1080p
>GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little
>GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
1440p
>GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced
>GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
2160p (4K)
>GTX 1080Ti

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor

Previous: >>63360537
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ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A ATX CUBE CASE?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/467Cjc
is this an optimal build for less than 1500, main uses will be some gaming, photoshop and shitposting
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>>63371069
Air 540 or for a bit smaller I have personally considered the Core v21
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>>63371071

>shitposting

use a comfy bendium 4 for maximum shitposting during winter
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G4620 with 1050Ti for small llite gayming and a bit photoshop? Will it handle anything?
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>>63371069
>cube case
>not aesthetic compact atx mid tower
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Is there any reason to get a 144Hz+ monitor if it doesn't have G-Sync and I have mid range hardware?

With my hardware, I can hardly get a stable 40+ FPS maxing out most modern games... I can't afford the G-Sync premium...

My current 27" 60Hz IPS from like 4+ years ago is dying and I need a replacement...

The only stuff in my price range is another 27" 60Hz IPS or 24" 144Hz TN. Neither with G-Sync.

Which do you think would be the better buy for me?
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>>63371100
different strokes for different blokes
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Are there any good matx motherboards for ryzen? I plan on getting ryzen 7 1700, but can't decide on my mb. Leaning towards GB AB350M gaming 3 right now.
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>>63371098
>photoshop on a dual core
just no, get a ryzen 1200
many games do not support dual cores any more
also consider getting a rx 580 or 570 instead, the gpu market needs more competition
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>>63371071
For gaming, the most you'd want is am R5 1600.
For photoshop, you want strong single core performance for some reason
You'd be better off with an i5 8400 between the two

>>63371115
You haven't even posted the resolution you're thinking about. If you're getting a new 1080p monitor, get the one in the OP pcpartpicker. 144Hz, 1ms response, VA panel (similar to IPS in color and viewing angles)

>>63371143
>many games do not support dual cores any more
Bullshit, every game supports the dual core G4560 and of course the dual core i3s that are in countless gaming builds because those processors have four threads. Shut up, retard.
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>>63371071
>gaming
>ryzen 7
what do you mean fampai?

>>63371143
don't get 570 at any cost, the 1060 3gb costs less and outperforms it, even though it's a shit card

>>63371131
pro4 is best ab350 board, comes in atx & matx

isn't *sync in case you go both over and under the refresh rate of your monitor?

if you go over, you have tearing without vsync
if you go under, with vsync it causes large delays
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>>63371238
what about farcry 4?
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>>63370963
Okay how is this bud?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VkTZtJ
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>>63371243
>don't get 570 at any cost, the 1060 3gb costs less and outperforms it
A retarded statement. "At any cost".. so if the RX 570 was $100 and the 3GB 1060 was $200, you still wouldn't buy it and you'd turn your friends away from it? Completely moronic.

The 570 slightly outperforms the 3GB 1060 and has more VRAM. Right now prices are fucked up, so it costs more, but soon it will be competitive again
http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/star-wars-battlefront-ii-test-gpu-cpu
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>>63371268
FC4 what? It runs on the G4560 if that's what you're asking.

>>63371280
CPU is overkill for the 1050Ti. Either drop down to R3 1200 or get a 1060
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>>63371238
>You haven't even posted the resolution you're thinking about. If you're getting a new 1080p monitor, get the one in the OP pcpartpicker. 144Hz, 1ms response, VA panel (similar to IPS in color and viewing angles)

Yes 1080p.

Does the 144Hz matter if I can hardly reach those refresh rates?

Like would it offer any advantage over something like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/322462493363?afepn=5337259887

IPS, 75Hz, $70 cheaper.
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>>63371297
>A retarded statement. "At any cost".. so if the RX 570 was $100 and the 3GB 1060 was $200, you still wouldn't buy it and you'd turn your friends away from it? Completely moronic.

no, by "at any cost" I mean, if someone threatened to chop off your dick if you didn't buy a 570 instead of a different card, you should still not buy it
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>>63371352
27" is too big for 1080p at monitor viewing distances. You want 23-25" at 1080p. 27" is 1440p territory.

I don't know anything about the stats of that monitor like "virtual" response time. I assume that's to limit the ghosting reported on the early Freesync 4ms IPS monitors.
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>>63371368
>chop off your dick
>or buy a 570
Just gonna drop you a hint that you should buy the 570. You'll keep your dick AND get a good card ta boot.
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>>63371457
what part of "at any cost" don't you get anon
it's not worth keeping your dick if you have to get a 570 for it
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I have a i5-4440 processor right now and a GX780 6gb strix video card.

I'm thinking of getting the new i5-8600k processor and wait until next gen to upgrade my video card as hopefully the price on 1440p monitors will have become more reasonable by then. (I can't afford to upgrade both at once and my 780 seems to be holding up okay.)

How retarded am I? Is the processor upgrade gonna be noticeable? Mostly for multi tasking video/streaming while gaming.
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>>63371482
What if you have to insert the 1060 3GB into your rectum?
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>>63371133
>get a va panel
Isn't a va panel very slow?
I play a lot iRacing and Assetto Corsa.
So i don't want a high Input lag

Is there a single good WQHD-144hz Monitor out there who has not backlight-bleeding or other problems but is also fast and has good colors?
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>i'm going to put a 1070ti on a 1080p build
This is going to be like killing a mice with a shotgun
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silly question from someone who knows nothing about water cooling - if I buy a liquid version of vega for example, is it a self contained unit that runs out of the box or do you still need the pump, reservoir etc set up already in your case for it to connect to?
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>>63371572
Look at the benchmarks.
You will soon need a 1080 to play with 60fps+ in 1080p
>inb4 you don't have to play in ultra
yeah.... of course i play on medium
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>>63371535
>Isn't a va panel very slow?
Not the new ones. 144Hz 1ms response

>>63371573
Yes Vega is set up for you
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>>63371507
at
any
cost

if you had to fully insert it into your anus and use a pcie riser it'd still be better
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>>63371589
stop STOP
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>>63371597
>not the new ones
ok so mean this monitor from the op?
Samsung LC32HG70QQUXEN
But it has a lot of bad customer feedbacks
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fK6nYr
Going to pair this with a
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IOO4SGK
Will it run the monitor specs nicely or do I need a 1080ti? The ram and gpu brand are interchangeable depending on what goes on sale around black friday.
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>>63371685
did you already order a DELID THIS kit?
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>>63371007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g
>a VTX
my first ""real"" video card was a vtx
it got fried 2 months after i got it
never again
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>>63371729
I'm going to first try to go for 5.0 stable (80c under load) before I think about delidding. Kinda why I'm getting the beefy cooler and mesh case.
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I've read that the ASRock Ab350s mobos have some problems with ram speeds above 2400. is this just for overclocking or general performance? im not much of an overclocker but if high ram speeds are going to flat out hurt performance I'd rather just go with something else.
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>>63371685
get a 1070ti or a 1080ti, don't bother with 1080 while 1070ti sells for MSRP
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>>63371737
>puts rams in different channels
TRIGGERED
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>>63371769
outdated info
all the ram compatibility issues have been solved with bios updates
if you're lucky, your motherboard will come with a decent firmware, if not you'll have to flash it yourself, which is easy as shit and pretty safe as long as your power isn't spotty and you do it in bios and not using some program
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>>63371830
awesome
thanks
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>Uh wow, it's time to build a new PC
>Let's check the recommendation list
>R5 1600 / i5 8400
>Well I'm a gamer so I'll obviously pick the Intel CPU as they have better performance
>Wai-
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F3RwNN
Assuming I managed to get all the deals I am thinking about on black friday, I could pull this off for the price listed.

Should I change anything?
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>>63371947
why not the i7 8700k?
Way better and for the future
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>>63371947
try checking for a 8350k
4 cores 4 thread instead of 6 & 6, but faster clock speeds, so better for DEM GAMES
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>>63371979
>lmao just buy the one that's literally 2x the price bro
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I could only afford to buy an R5/1500X and I'm going to primarily use it for office work and some 1080p 60fps gaming. Will I be fine for like the next 3 years or so? I'll be OC'ing it and I have 2400mhz ram.
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>i5 not available
>g-sync monitors disgustingly overpriced in Aus
strongly considering my first red build
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>>63371950
>that motherboard
ANON NO WHAT ARE YOU DOING
switch to the AB350M Pro4

if you REALLY decide to go with that board, you should switch to a single 8/16 gig stick
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>>63372026
>I have 2400mhz ram.
rip u anon
why would you buy ddr4 2400

get 1600 instead of 1500x or if you really can't afford that extra 30, drop to 1200
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>>63372010
Oh boy
Just start working
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>>63372044
Is the lack of spots for ram the biggest problem?
Is it true you can't overclock with some cheaper boards? I heard some people saying that chaper boards don't have some of the features for overclocking or something like that.
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>>63371007
Hi /pcbg/, what's a good build for less than €800?
I've never built a desktop, I just want to play some ksp and host virtual machines, nothing fancy like video rendering or heavy computation (except compiling gentoo)
linux support is important, it would be nice using only open source drivers but I have not problem running nvidia proprietary driver if necessary considering it would basically be a glorified steam machine
I already have a dell 24" 1080p and a 750GB ssd, but I don't know what to look next
should I choose a cpu? i5 or ryzen?
what about the motherboard and the socket?
how to calculate cooling and power supply?
pls help
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>>63372072
I have the money, I just don't have any need for that much power. I could buy a 1080 ti too but that doesn't mean I can justify the cost for my own needs
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Is there any better option for a 1440p 144hz IPS monitor than the mg279q? I would buy the new px277 but unfortunately i live in yurop and import tax is killing me.
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>>63372074
>I heard some people saying that chaper boards don't have some of the features for overclocking or something like that.
your board LITERALLY can't overclock
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>>63371979
>>63372072
retard. why not suggest an 1800x to every anon buying a 1600? Its better after all
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Need a good mATX case. Post Cases.

Is the Silencio 352 any good? I ehar it has some cable management and airflow issues but I can't tell if that's a meme.
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>>63372108
f
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>>63372118
Why not get the Fractal Define Mini instead of this clone?
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>>63372149
I don't like the power supply shroud, I have autism and I like to see 3.5" drives
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>>63372118
Air flow in that case is fuck-awful. Get the N200 if you like that layout. It's not even loud with decent fans.
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Is it possible to fit 2 56's in a 400C?
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>>63371007
>nobody will restock coffee lake until January
It's like they want me to buy AyyyMD. Fucking hell.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c4ZXxY
Is this good enough to play Assassins Creed Origin in 4k @60fps?
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Honest opinion on parts for my new build, where did I waste, any advice on where I could improve? To power Ultra wide gaming, mainly Arma 3 & preparing for Star Citizen.

>8700k with a80 cooler
>2 x asus strix 1080 sli (second hand £500 for both!)
>Intel optane 900p 280gb
>Seagate Barracuda pro 4tb
>Asus hero X WiFi edition
>4000mhz ram
>Acer Predator x34a (second hand £650)
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>>63372212
>preparing for Star Citizen
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>>63371647
They have a 4/5 star average

>>63372082
Probably i5 8400 + AMD graphics card from the rumors I've heard

>>63371950
Like the other anon said, get an AB350 or B350 board
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>>63372208
the real question is why would you want to play a meh game that you can play on consoles when PC has better games with better graphics
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>>63372212
I think you may actually have gone overboard but yeah, assuming you are delidding your i7 it would be hard to build a faster pc than that.

>>63372118
Phanteks Enthoo maybe?
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>>63371647
Samsung has the worst freesync, just fyi
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Is it yet possible to run heavily modded skyrim with a moderate ENB at 1440p and 120fps? If so, what would it take? I don't want to ask /tesg/ because it's all waifufags.
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>>63372384
So basically all high-end monitors are shit
Those with ips are glowing, Those with TN have no good colours, VA is to slow

I just only want WQHD with 144hz.
Is there nothing good out there?
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>>63372436
there are quite a few high end TN screens with decent colours, you usually just have to do some adjustment when setting them up
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Using an AIO should I use the radiator to suck air into the case or blow it out? Thinking sucking it in with the AIO radiator on the front then two fans on the top and one on the back to exhaust would be best? Or the AIO on the top blowing air out and the two fans in the front sucking air in?
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>>63372072
why even bother with a build recommendation thread then? If it's "Just start working" and buy a i9 1080ti sli, btw you can't even afford a build like this with your walmart job.
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>>63372304
What is the difference between AB and B boards?
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The question of the century.

Which do you prefer, Ryzen or Intel?
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Will this set up be benefical for FPS Gaming at 144hz? (Maybe with mild Overclocks)

> Intel i7-8700k.
> Noctua DH-15
> AsRock Taichi/Extreme4
> Asus GTX 1080Ti OC (Already had it)
> XB270HU 1440p 144hz IPS (Already had it)

Will this help me?
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>>63372514
Ryzen because it physically exists here
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>>63372208
>Assassins Creed Origin
bad!

no system will be able to keep it solid 60fps even 1080p
https://youtu.be/a5kTWLnSaAc?t=2260

1920x1200 medium settings drops below 60 with a 5960x and sli 1080
sometimes even below 30FPS
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>>63372514
Ryzen because it performs better in all workloads that matter, has a more future-proof platform, is available, and costs far less.
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What do you think about that monitor?
144hz, wqhd but TN-panel
ASUS PG27VQ
900€ to wait for the next generation qled-10bit-hdr-144hz-wqhd/4k-monitors....
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>>63372497
just some naming miscommunication
exactly the same thing
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>>63372212
Where are you getting the a80? I can't find that shit anywhere.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XHfYM8

I have had my list checked many times. I changed the CPU and I want my list to be rated /10.
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I mostly play at 1080p 60fps and I wanna upgrade from my 970. I feel like I should just get a 1060 but I kinda wanna be able to blast through games on ultra for the next 3+ years

Is a 1070 worth it when a 1080 is only 100 dollars more and comes with 2 games?
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>>63372690
Get faster ram for Ryzen/10.
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maybe not relevant but dont wanna make my own thread.
my ram is 1600mhz 7-8-7-20, base frequency 133 In bios it says ram run at 1333. If I set base frequency to 160 x10multiplier will only ram and cpu be overclocked(no effect on gpu/motherboard)? will this be good for my ram(without changing 7-8-7-20 also)?
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>>63372670
eBay
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>>63372716
So, if I up the ram speed, what would you rate the list (I know you said Ryzen/10, but I want a number).
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would my PC hit the bricks on me if I had two different GPUs SLI'd
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>>63372690
>A320/10
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>>63372699
aren't you still fine with 970?
you should be able to hit 60fps comfortably with that

1060 is barely an upgrade, just get a 1070ti if you really want a GPU upgrade
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>>63372716
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RFyHwV

Okay. This is a solid list.
Now what can I do to get it back into the $700 area?
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>>63372726
>no effect on gpu/motherboard
>no effect on motherboard

>motherboard overclocking

also that should just change your ram speed
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>>63372479
Radiator as exhaust always. Otherwise the air running through the radiator will heat up the inside of your case. Better to sacrifice a few degrees cpu temps than much higher temps in the case overall.
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>>63372803
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LmKsqk

>Now what can I do to get it back into the $700 area?
heh, good luck with that
atleast I made it a lot better for 38 cents
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>>63372815
Oh, thank you.
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Why are there no aesthetic white mid tower cases with good airflow?
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>>63372843
>ddr4-3200
That is good for GTX 1080's. I want my PC level to be balanced. This is not balanced. The ram is too OP, not deserving of a GTX 1060 or a Ryzen 1600.
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>>63372865
>That is good for GTX 1080's. I want my PC level to be balanced. This is not balanced. The ram is too OP, not deserving of a GTX 1060 or a Ryzen 1600.
I hate frogposters, but this is all I could think off when reading this shit
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>>63372865
Looks like you are scrapping your old case.
Do you have a HDD to scrap?
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>>63372208
If you turn down the details, yeah. Ultra only gets 45FPS on average with a 1080Ti at 4K
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1050TI vs 1060 3gb?
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>>63372934
1060 6gb
580 8gb
MAYBE 580 4gb

if you REALLY can't wait to make the extra money for one of those, 1050 ti
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>>63372934
That is all upon preference and situation.
The 1060 3GB gets better frames, but the 1050ti has more VRAM. Pick your poison.
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>>63372924
Ok then i think i will go only just with a 1080 (have that already) and wait for the 1180 or 1180ti
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>>63372883
kol
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>>63372514
I support competition, so ryzen.
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>>63372934
The 1060 is better overall, but it depends on what you want out of the card.
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I want to stick to 1080p

what is the best 1080p monitor with 1ms response? 60hz is acceptable. freesync is desired but not required if 60hz.
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>>63372989
It'll probably be used mostly for TF2 desu, but I'd like to be able to play witcher 3 at highish settings and near 60fps. I am thinking about getting a ryzen 1200 for the build too.
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>>63373021
What is your budget?
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should I just buy the 1060 now or is there any hope of it going on sale? the price doesn't seem to be budging anywhere
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>>63372514
>prefer Intel
>it's not in stock
>when it is in stock it's way over MSRP
>every order is backlogged several weeks
Looks like Ryzen is winning this race by virtue of being present at the starting line. I'd love to build some intel machines for the holiday season but there's no chance i'm gambling my bottom line with that kind of backordering on top of the lack of B series boards for the locked chips. This release cycle was a colossal fuckup for Intel. I have 100+ Christmas orders right now that would have been i5 or i7 if not for this.
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>>63373024
if you're that poor you shouldn't purchase a computer
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>>63372690
8gb is fine don't get meme'd into 16gb
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How important are chipset drivers? My mobo doesn't provide them for win7.
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>>63373024
titanfall or team fortress?

>>63373196
don't listen to this cuck
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>>63373186

> This release cycle was a colossal fuckup for Intel.

Not really - its only a fuckup for consumers. Coffee lake's paper launch exists solely to slow down the adoption of ryzen and keep the average pleb away from AMD while the big boys are looking at Epyc and threadripper which Intel is scrambling to have an answer to.
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Are there a specific brand of motherboards for the B350 that are recommended?
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What is the best CPU/Motherboard/RAM combo I can get for ~150 euros? It's for an arcade cabinet so it will mainly be used for running emulators and a few indie games; basically my aim is to be able to run Dolphin. I really don't mind getting second hand older stuff like a sandy bridge or whatever.
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>>63373268
>its only a fuckup for consumers
the people who would buy their products? so its a fuckup for the company
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>>63373268
...which is a fuckup for Intel. The holiday season is a big fucking deal. It's the only time of year anyone cares about the consumer market for desktops. There are literally hundreds of thousands of Ryzen desktops being built and sold this fall because Intel couldn't be arsed to get its shit together and put Coffee Lake out in sufficient quantities in time as well as release the B series boards.
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>>63373319
>>63373359


Intel doesn't care about you actually buying the product - they have chips that top benchmarks at the key important points and its that mindshare they are striving to maintain. Why did you think /g/'s Intel shilling went into overdrive once cofee lake "released" - to reassert that Intel is the best™ after 8~ months of ryzen eroding a great many reasons to buy an Intel chip. Fundamentally /g/ (and particularly threads like this) are actively sabotaged by a bunch of consumer whores who do not understand that sometimes AMD maybe the overall superior choice (equally Intel might be the better option) based upon secondary features a product may have.

> It's the only time of year anyone cares about the consumer market for desktops

I bet you'll also see a lot of the usual suspects posting a lot more pro-Intel content than usual to keep the Just Wait™ line going.
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>>63373196
>implying tf2 isn't the greatest competitive shooter ever made.
>>63373265
fortress
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>>63373408
1060 6gb if u can
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>>63373391
Probably so, but all the same "Just Wait™," doesn't work during the holidays. I'm up to my ass in orders for desktops this time of year and it is absolutely over by the end of December. Everything I still have in stock at that point goes up on ebay at wholesale and I go back to my regular season contract jobs.
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>>63373472
Is building computers just for November/December season profitable?

What price point do you build and sell?
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>>63373438
reminder 6gb vram literally does not matter unless you're going above 1080p except in few games
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>>63373504
I am 1080p for a long time unless they start handing out higher res stuff for free. If I plan on staying 1080p at all times, should I go 1050ti or 3gb 1060?
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>>63373504
yea but most games use at least 4
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>>63373539
buddy, witcher 3 uses around 6 at 1080p, get the 1060 6gb
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9pcg2R
>little over my $650 budget
>going for cheap medium settings 1080p with freesync
Don't really want to give up muh m2 ssd lads, how am i doing?
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>>63373391
>/g/'s Intel shilling went into overdrive once cofee lake "released"
More Ryzen than Coffee Lake Chips in OP

>>63373314
Maybe an i5 4670 or 4690K once used prices drop. You're probably looking at less than 200USD including RAM

>>63373576
"Uses" does not mean needs. Lots of games fill up the memory if it's available but it doesn't impact performance to have less

>>63373260
Pretty sure you need 'em.

>>63373161
You'll probably have to wait until Cyber Monday or something

>>63373021
>1ms response? 60hz
No

>>63372934
Between the two 3GB 1060

>>63372865
>>63372803
>>63372690
You need to drop to R3 1200 (OC to 3.7)
Get AB350 mobo
Get 1x 8GB 3000-3200MHz RAM
Kind of a fucked up build, honestly.

>>63372699
970=1060
Your expectations and conceptions are incorrect

>>63372614
Wait on spending $500+ on a monitor unless you're getting a VA panel

>>63372535
What do you have now?

>>63372514
AMD, Intel is good too though.
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>>63373709
get 8gb of samsung b die
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>>63373709
It's in your best interest to get a non-NVMe drive, like the WD Blue M.2. Also, stronly consider getting something better than the 560.
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>>63373709
Too much RAM
Video card sucks. Get a 570 if you really want Freesync
Monitor sucks. Get a >23" IPS panel monitor
Be advised that you don't get Low Framerate Compensation with Freesync when the monitor's Hz is that low (75Hz), and according to an Amazon answer the Freesync range is 48-75Hz
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You have £500

Give me the best gaymer PC you can build, /g/
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what does /pcbg/ think of white cases? I've chosen the 400C for my new build but the white/black version looks surprisingly nice
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>>63373784

>More Ryzen than Coffee Lake Chips in OP

Yeah and the shitposting over what cpus go into the OP has been a fucking mess - its why each tier was changed by use case ebcause of the shitstorm over ryzen vs kaby lake. Coffee lake just stirred it up once again.
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>>63373908
>do everything for me
here you go bud
*whips out dick*
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>>63373914
probably dust magnets but never had one
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>>63372108
>>63372044
>>63372304
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157763
Would this one be any better? I'm not opposed to spending more on the pro, but saving $35 would be nice to put towards a better gpu if I want.
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>>63373962
>for me
I just want to see how much /g/'s builds will differ, faggot
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>>63373974
I don't mind cleaning it regularly. I'm more concerned about it going yellow with age
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what would be the benefit of having 32gb over 16gb?

newegg sent me an extra by accident
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>>63373992
16 x 2 = 32
you get twice the ram
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Intel game
AMD no game
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if all I do is light gaming and internet browsing, would the i3-8100 be worth it? its pretty cheap right now
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>>63374046
in short; no.
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>>63373992
You can run a RAMdisk for blazing load times
You can sell it
I doubt that you would use more than 16GB in games but you can multitask more.
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>>63374017
AMD game too, especially when 1440p/4k where the cpu difference becomes negligible in many titles
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Right now I have an i5-4570, 8GB of ram, and a GTX 950. Should I get a GTX 1060 or get an SSD and save up for a 1060 afterwards?
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>>63374163
ssd
then JUST WAIT for the next nvidia graphic cards
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How much does tdp translate into heat generated?
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>>63374180
Alright, I've made it 2 years with a 950, I can handle it for a few more months.

Will an SSD improve performance in some games? I've noticed that even with 8GB of ram(1.5-1.8 at idle) some games simply need more, and resort to the pagefile.
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>>63374180
>>63374234
>a few more months
ha... haahah HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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What are the best pre-built deals during this black friday/cybermonday? So far i've found i5 7400 with 1060 for 500 bucks and ryzen 3 + 580 for 575 something bucks. My retarded friend wants a gaming pc but doesn't want to build it.
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>>63373161
>259 for a fucking 1060
NO

good god no
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>>63373071
200-500 usd
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>>63373268
>consumer orders coffee lake PC
>doesn't get it in 2 weeks
>cancel order and either puts off buying a computer or buys ryzen
this is what is happening right now
-t ausfag
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>>63374405
Pretty big budget for a 1080p 60hz monitor
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>>63374405
I'm using an asus 242h from 2011, it's TN and I give no shits.
also, try this
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#T=1&X=0,50000&r=192001080&H=0,144
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Is this worth buying? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1273745-REG/crucial_ct275mx300ssd1_mx300_275g.html

The ability to store an extra game or two, and it being a couple of dollars cheaper than a Samsung SSD seem appealing.
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>>63374424
Some retards are buying 8100 to "tie them over". More money than sense
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>>63374424
literally me
t. Ausfag who just received 8400 refund
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>>63374496
I want to get the 8400 now but will be waiting for cheaper mobos
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Hello /g/, Swissfag here. Someone in my local area is selling a Gigabyte Radeon RX480 8GB "G1 Gaming" for 250 CHF. (250$)
The card is certified NEW, there's even the warranty with it.

Is this a good deal ? The only bad thing I've heard about this card are the potential high temps because of a problem with the cooler or something. Even so, should I still pull the trigger or keep looking into discounts/special offers for RX580 cards despite the price inflation ?
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>>63374496
Just get the 8600k

>>63374606
Buy
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>>63373797
where do i get this?
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>>63374634
>8600k
>pay $100 more so you can spend another $100 on a cooler to get 10%-20% increase
no thats dumb
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>>63374634
Can you elaborate why?
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Hey /pcbg/, off-topic, but you seemed like the closest thread;
What would you recommend for a sub £100 mouse for gayming, only criteria is that it has to be ambidextrous or left-handed
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>>63374634
>just spend nearly 2x the price instead for practically no difference at 1440p
Yeah nah I'll just buy ryzen and lose 10 frames tops
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>>63374328
what are you talking about? that's pretty much the low end price for a 1060 6gb
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>>63371007
>G4560/G4600
>2017
lol
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>>63374670
Well priced, near 580 performance (better 1060)

>>63374681
Of course, ryzens still the smarter choice.
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>>63374645
it's ram, cs 14 8gb 3200mhz, there is some list on the web
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Whatever happened to the falcon? I saw him posting in a different thread but he doesn't do the guides anymore?
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>>63374489
>tie them over
It's tide them over.

>>63374606
Seems like an ok deal if the exchange rate is one to one

>>63374480
Good but honestly I'd pay a few dollars more and get m.2 if your mobo has a slot

>>63374218
TDP is just a manufacture's estimate of wattage, not actual watts in a stress test. At idle hopefully your hardware is just chilling, but check (let's say gaming) power consumption benchmarks to see how many Watts are being released into your room.

>>63374163
1060, get the SSD ASAP though

>>63374046
Probably too expensive for your needs. Depends on what you mean by light gaming.

>>63373992
If you have to ask you don't need it.

>>63373941
>shitposting over what cpus go into the OP has been a fucking mess
It's just that one faggot who keeps trying to insert the A8 9600

>>63373908
It's already in the OP

>>63374900
He doesn't do what guides?
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>>63374928
Pic related. /g/ would contribute to these, they were accessible via a tinyurl. I never used them personally but they were decent for gauging what you could get depending on budget,
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>>63374958
>forgot pic

End me.
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>>63374974
>enthusiast
>8gb ram
what a shit site
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>>63374974
It's logicalincrements.com, but it's not included anymore because it's outdated and got kinda ridiculous. He would list a particular CPU in lower builds, leave a gap with some other CPU, then bring the previous CPU back again in a higher build. Less than "logical"
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This might be a good thread as you guys know the running cost of parts

Any idea what I could sell this Clevo D900f for? The specs are:
Intel Core i7-980x 3.33GHz (6C/12T)
Nvidia GTX 480m 2GB GDDR5
6GB DDR3
500GB Kingston SSDnow SATA II drive
17'' 1920x1200 display
ExpressCard/54, HDMI, DVI, 4 USB, eSATA, etc etc
9 Cell battery with a 16% wear level
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>>63374994
Really old builds. Obviously around the 7970's time
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>>63374994
>bottom says it's from 2013

>>63375004
That's cool that it evolved beyond a static image.
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Anyone has the Silverstone ML08 case?? How portable is that case??
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>>63375032
That site really helped me when I was first building.. but you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain
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>>63374974
>3770K and GTX 670
this was me in 2013 now the CPU and or motherboard are ded the GPU sitting unused and I have no idea what to buy
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>>63370497
>download drivers from intel
>install
>replace cpu & mobo
>done
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I installed Linux and I connected to the internet but when I open firefox it says I'm not connected
I'm running it off of a usb and I'm using a tp-link wifi card
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Considering getting a vega 64 over a 1080 or vega 56 over 1070/ti as it will (together with 1440/144hz freesync vs gsync equivalent monitor) save me $440au / $300au respectively. Thoughts?
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>>63375577
might be your wifi can you plug it into ethernet? if that works try updating the wifi card driver
lspci to check it is showing up correctly to begin with too
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So I assume the 8700k won't come into stock until December or early next year?
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>>63376173
correct
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Best bang for the buck CPU and GPU?
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>>63374240
Reeeee where is my 120 Hz 4K already. The standard has existed since 2014, god dammit.
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you in the US? 1600 with b350 motherboard at microcenter is unbeatable atm. vega cards are going cheap too but on newegg.
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>>63376457
A10 APU. Dumb question though.
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>>63376457
It depends, but probably one of the non-x Ryzens and the 3GB 1060. 8100 or 8400 if you want to go Intel.
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>>63376518
>1060 3GB
>8400
In what world is that the BEST price/performance combo?
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>>63372843
>>63372803
R3 1020
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>>63376568
Not combos, just best prices for their performances.
Budget was never specified, nor was the intended use or future plans.
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I already have a gtx 1080ti

I'm moving from a 2600k because the mobo is failing. Is this good?
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>>63376620
So you actually think an 8400 has 3x the performance of a Ryzen 1200? or a 1060 3GB more than double a 460?
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>>63376677
That's a dishonest way to phrase it.
Other issues like stuttering and multitasking can take priority over value on paper.
If you want the ultimate price to performance build you may as well walk along the streets to find a free PC.
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>>63376630
That RAM is sliw but if you have the moneybfor everything else you may as well.
With the 8700k consider delidding and also consider a more powerful air-based cooler.
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>>63376803
>you may as well walk along the streets to find a free PC.
There are PCs growing in your neighborhood?
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>>63376828
Yes. Yesterday I oiled my RAM garden and picked up some case fans from the farmers' market.
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Generally how decent are the fans that come with lower price to medium price cases? I'm worried about noise.
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>>63376803
>going purely by price and performance is a dishonet way of evaluating price and performance
OK.
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>>63377017
Go find a free PC on the side of the road then
Do whatever the fuck you want with it
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>>63371007
Does that image assumes a 20/20 vision?
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>>63377009
Generally they're fine so long as you can use PWM control. If you go with some really crappy brand then don't be surprised, but most cases have fans that work just fine.
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Is Noctua NH D15 necessary for a i5-8600K, or can I get away with something cheaper?
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>>63377046
Well the case is cheap, and the fans probably have LEDs to make them seem better than they are.

Here's hoping they're fine.
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>>63377058
don't forget to delid and apply liquid nitrogen
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>>63377080
Can you recommend a delid kit?
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>>63377086
I was just memeing - I've no idea
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>>63377058
You can get away with cheaper than that.
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M.2 or SATA?
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>>63377196
If you want to RAID or have slightly cheaper drives then SATA is better.
M.2 is less of a hassle and around the same price if your drive is AHCI.
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>>63377058
i got a phantek tc14, but ur looking around this range for 5.0ghz
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how is 8600k (5ghz) for streaming at 1080 60 fps (AAA)?

using gtx 1080 (2ghz), 32 gb ram 2400mhz (probs will OC), 960 pro evo and 7200rpm hd
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>>63373294
Please reply
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>>63377622
I hear Ryzen is good for streaming.
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>>63371007
I want to build a solid desktop computer, seems like Black Friday is the time to pick up parts for a build.

>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
$1000 - $1200 CAD
I can cross the border to pick up parts in the states - I shouldn't have to worry about US-only shipping.

>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
Gaming. Some AAA titles, large-map games of dwarf fortress, emulating consoles (ie N64, gamecube, Wii, playstation). Maybe toy around with game dev, nothing serious though. Potentially a little modelling of chemical systems.

>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
Gaming. If I can afford it I'll probably go 1440p - I feel like 1080p is going to look like trash in a few years.

Any ideas on what my build might look like? I heard that the i5 8400 coffee lake CPU is super solid, but I'd need a Z370 board for that and they may not be in stock anywhere.
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>>63377911
This build is probably pretty close to what I'll end up getting if it's a reasonable deal.
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>>63377911
1440p plus photoediting?
That won't be cheap. At least 300-400 dollars for a quality IPS non-goy sync IPS panel.
1k - 1.2k will get you a good PC. Not inclusive of a monitor.
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>>63371007
>A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor

For what?
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Any Ryzen 1400 owners here?
I'm getting one so I want to hear experiences and opinions.
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>>63377942
Forgot the build:
>https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/2gmPxr/modest-gaming-build

>>63377944
By game dev I mean roguelike-style stuff - probably not the most graphically intensive kind of game to make. I like the idea of playing around with fun mechanics. Would 1440p (but minimal photoediting) still be a pricey rig?
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>>63376630
get an M2 SSD like 960 EVO, you might as well since everything else is pretty strong
get some faster RAM, probably 3200 MHz
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>>63377987
Go look up how much an 1440p IPS monitor cost. You might find a good deal on black Friday but they will still cost you.
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>>63377965
General usability
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>>63378028
Wow. I had no idea. 1080p it is!
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>>63377966
If you are concerned about 4c/8t not being enough, don't, even my 1200 has no trouble keeping up with everything that I've asked it to do and I do fairly large photoshop work, reaper with vsts, premiere, etc.

That being said if you could stretch your budget to a 1600, that's a better option long-term for not much more money.

If you are streaming defintely go higher if you are CPU encoding, take a look at Blunty's videos on youtube comparing the Ryzen 5 series.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kFzptJ

How do you guys feel about the 7800x? It has 6c/12t but it's actually available, is cheaper, and you can take advantage of EATX motherboards without the crazy Intel tax.

Paired with a 1080ti I'd think it would be a great combo.
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>>63378073
You can always use the monitor you currently have and then buy a better monitor down the road.
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>>63378188
I don't actually have a monitor - I've only ever owned shitty laptops. This'll be my first break into the desktop world.
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>>63371007
Want to order this ASAP. Please respond.
>>63366573
>>63366582
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>>63377911
>I feel like 1080p is going to look like trash in a few years.
What did he mean by this?
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>>63378220
You can either invest now in a good monitor and have it last a long time.
Get a good 1080p monitor and have it for a long time.
Buy a cheap 2nd hand 1080p TN monitor for less than 100 dollars and then upgrade down the line.

Up to you.
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>>63378322
You know how 360p videos on youtube used to seem decent, and then 720p ones came out and the 360p ones started to look like shit?

I'm afraid that if I build a 1080p rig right as 4k gaming gets popular I'll be stuck with a system that feels really subpar compared to the new standard.
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>>63371494
You won't notice shit
consider getting a i7 on the same socket if you see one going cheap
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>>63378357
4k is a meme, FHD is enough, UHD is the limit
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>>63371007
>monitor suggestions is still bad

Why is it so hard to find a decent 16:10 monitor
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>>63378357
720p still looks good today, just not as good as alternatives. I wouldn't even say 360p video is trash except maybe for quality films and new games. Maybe it's what people have said throughout history, but it's not like you could compare a 4:3 TV playing VHS to a movie theater, while movies are now just 4K projections anyway and 4K TVs aren't even that expensive.
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>>63378477
What's wrong with a DELL Ultrasharp?
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would a ryzen 1600 be a good upgrade from an i5 4690 or should I just wait for the next intel gen
I don't want an 8400 if I have to buy a new mobo for the next upgrade once again
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Which one should I buy?
I plan on having my OS, Photoshop and a few games on the SSD I choose. But, what do you recommend?

Should I favor much greater capacity for just $25. or should I save $25 for much less capacity and arguable speed improvement. Are there other pros and cons I should factor?
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>>63378800
850 unless you are absolutely sure 250GB will be enough for you.
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Rate my build /g/

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bgXhWX

I'm actually not sure how to handle cooling because of Intel TDP faggotry
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>>63378885
Forgot to mention this will mostly for gayman and some development.
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>>63378885
>mini ITX
>giant case
For what purpose?
>>
I love the pc, I kiss it every night before I go to bed
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>>63372082
anyone with a build?
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* CPU: Intel Core i5-650 3.2 GHz
* GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 320
* RAM: 8GB DDR3
* Motherboard: MSI 2A9C
* Power supply: 460W

Is the 1050TI compatible with this
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>>63379302
R1600
1050ti/570
Seasonic PSU minimum 500W
Go make a build on PCP with this as your basis
Then we can move from there.
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>>63379370
Should be fine.
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Hey, /g/. I am about to pull the trigger and would like to get your opinion on my build. The goal is 1080p gayming with some work.
Also, one of the goals of the build is to make it upgradable, so I can buy nvidia new generation card with a better monitor next spring, and get the next ryzen cpu if it is a large improvemnt.
I also can get xfx rx580 8gb for $30 more.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HK8xXH
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>>63379045
To accommodate the GPU
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>>63379423
Why did you choose that mobo?
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>>63379375
thanks anon, is this ok? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZJMyJV
missing case, motherboard and cooler
does motherboards have builtin network adapters or shoud I buy those too?
also don't sure about the ram
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>>63379482
I don't like any b350 boards and the cheapest x370 i like is asus x370 pro. The difference between them is not that large.
The reason I don't like b350 is that i want the board to be able to run next ryzen 8 core with oc, so it should have good vrm, I guess. It is really difficult to find out what mobo is good, so I just went with something that is guaranteed good.
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>>63379606
its like a 80 dollar difference between most b350 boards and a x370 idk mate

asrock pro4 is pretty solid
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tPXhWX

Rate please.

40% Browsing/Watching Shows and Movies
40% Gaming, maybe some streaming
20%Photoshop/Video Editing
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>>63379534
Unless you're using ethernet you will need a network adapter. That RAM is pretty bad, DDR4 is current. I would go for at least 2400 speed RAM. Check the OP builds to get an idea of what you're doing.

>>63379606
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/39hj4D/asrock-z370-pro4-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z370-pro4

This is cheaper.
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Is the monitor from the op -Samsung C32HG70- really better than a Viewsonic XG2703-GS or a Aoc Agon AG271QG?

I mean the Samsung has a VA-Panel, right?
Is IPS really that bad with the glowing?
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>i5-3570k, not clocked
>extracting speed of ~30mb/s
>ryzen 1600, not clocked
>extracting speed of ~20mb/s
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>>63379444
My point was going mini-itx has drawbacks with the benefit of having a small footprint. You're getting the drawback and having a stupidly large box to show for it. Sugo S13 would at least be smaller (while still supporting a 10.5" card) and that's not "small". Pic related.
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>>63379698
>clocked
>retarded comparison without proof
>comparing a CPU that's 30% more expensive
OK?
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>>63379644
>This is cheaper.
It is also another socket.
>>63379632
But will it have vrm good enough for ocing 8 core ryzen+?
How is build other than that? 580 or 1060?
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>>63379744
How is that a retarded comparison? The decompression speed of the all mighty ryzen is slower than a five year old 4 core 4 threads Intel CPU.
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Is the Aerocool Battlehawk a decent enough case?

I got a Aerocool V2X but it doesn't have exhaust holes on the top for the PSU, while this one does on the bottom
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>>63379783
It's cherry picking, as retarded as comparing the two by multi-core rendering and watching the Ryzen dominate. They're built with different specializations.
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>>63379797
>doesn't have exhaust holes on the top for the PSU
Are you retarded? The exhaust on a PSU is at the back. The fan is almost always an intake.
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>>63379813
>cherry picking
Isn't 7z compression and decompression one of the things people claim the Ryzen is dominating over Intel?
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rate my autism guise

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DgnN3F
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>>63379829
Well, either way, it would be taking air from the mobo and heatsink if the fan is facing down, and it would be blocked if it's facing up.
This is the one I have.
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Is it advisable to use a 8yo power supply together with modern hardware?
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>>63380021
FSP PSUs are OK. As long as it works, why not. Run some burn tests.
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>>63379772
who knows? there's so many fucking shills here, pro-msi and pro-asrock, you won't find much information in the archives that isn't incredibly biased

just look https://warosu.org/g/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=asrock+vrm
tons of conflicting information

if money isn't an issues, id go with the more expensive asrock, if it is, then the pro4...but at the end of day, vrms are so much bullshit and marginal in the real world...just get what you like / what sense money wise
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>>63379698
ah yes, I spend my days extracting zips
thank you for your insight, I will change my build from a 1600 to that insteaad
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>>63379772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkmyKPzCq6k
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>>63380021
never EVER cheap out on the PSU
That piece of shit can one day decide to destroy your entire rig.
Don't be cheap and buy a certified 500w 80+ for like $50 or so.
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I tried the auto tunning function of AI Suit.(Ryzen 5 1600). How do I go to the default non overclocked settings?
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Ryzen 3 1200 + RX 560 system should be pretty cool and power efficient right?
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>>63380131
If you want to be power efficient don't use a PC.
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If I wanna keep my build quiet, but don't want to use watercooling, I should go for large fans and run them at low RPM, correct?
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>>63380021
Use it 'til it dies. Just balance the power available vs. power used. If you run at 85% and over most of the time, it's worth investing in a new PSU, especially if you have the cash to invest in a high-efficiency one with solid components.

You can also play Stupid Hardware Tricks with a spare PSU if you have the room & inclination to fuck around. For example, you can use two PSUs, with one dedicated to running all your drives and other miscellaneous power while the other one is dedicated to the mobo & GPU.

That's more of a philosophical decision, if you'd like to be using equipment instead of tossing it or storing it in the back of a closet. But, so long as nothing is wrong with it, get creative and find a use for it. Doesn't have to run a new system. Frankenstein a system out of older parts and put it to use as a router/firewall/email server etc.
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>>63379797
>>63379866
The PSU takes the hot air and pulls it out the rear, so the intake fan should be facing inwards the case.
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I bought everything but the case at this point, but I don't have access to Fractal Design or Phanteks in my low tier country. Given the options of NZXT, Cooler Master, Corsair and Thermaltake, which one would you /g/ents recommend?
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>>63380348
pick the one you need
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RVGdsJ

How is this for general/gayming/some photoshop
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>>63380174
Pretty much the best thing you can do, along with minimizing vibration and getting a THICC case.
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>>63380468
so helpful
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REEEEEEEEE

All of the monitors out there are trash.
Fuck my 2k hardware.
Why even bother with a 1080/1080ti when all of the ips monitors have backlight bleeding and glow.

Fuck you. I should have bought a ps4 pro or a xbox with a 4k 10bit hdr tv

REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>63380511
>paying for windows
>1TB Blue in 2017
Why are you spending almost $90 on a cooler? Put that money to getting a 1600, use the Wraith Spire it comes with.
I would change the motherboard. Nothing wrong with B350 but MSI are shit.
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>>63380511
>$90 on a CPU cooler
>$125 on a keyboard
>$135 on Windows Pro
>$60 on a 450W PSU
>and yet no SSD, and budget CPU and GPU

get your priorities straight
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>>63380511
>spending more on ram than on your gpu or cpu
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>>63380557
>PS4 Pro with a 4K TV
So you can play literally 10 games at native 4K 60fps, four of which are sports titles?
I know this is bait but still, god damn. XBONE One 4K comes with a launch title that doesn't even run at fucking 60fps.
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>>63380580
This is not a fucking bait.
I want to buy a new monitor. But all of the IPS-Monitors are trash.
There is no sinlge monitor out there who don't have the glow and blb problem.

TN looks like shit even with 8bit.

The Samsung C27HG70 has only freesync and the HDR ist not true HDR. Not even real qled

And i can't order 4 Monitors and refund the bad ones because i am to poor for this and i don't want to be banned on amazon

God damn it i am even ready to spend over 900€ but there is no single good monitor out there
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>>63380558
I know but I can't really be bothered to get windows illegally, too much hassle, what's wrong with 1TB Blue?

>Why are you spending almost $90 on a cooler? Put that money to getting a 1600, use the Wraith Spire it comes with.
That's what I did originally but you guys said 1600 was pointless with that GPU so I'd either have to downgrade or get a better GPU and I don't have the money for 1060, I'll get a cheaper cooler though, thanks bud

>>63380566
The windows is there just for reference, I'm probably getting Home. What PSU would you suggest, I don't want to get unnecessarily high wattage. As for SSD it's too expensive to get any useful size

>>63380568
What ram should I go for?
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>>63380628
fucking 1400 comes with a cooler you retard, also it's not about what ram you should get it's more about buying cheap cpu and cheap gpu and then getting 16gb of ram. What are you even going to do that's going to be bottlenecked by 8gb of ram instead of your budget gpu/cpu. Here i saved you like $150 now get yourself 1060 or but yourself a few beers and have fun.
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Wait for Ampere.
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>>63380621
So how would buying a console be any better if you can afford a HDR TV as well as a PC?
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>>63380725
Because a 55" or even a 49" TV is to big to use it as a monitor with 80cm viewing distance...
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>>63380621
have you thought about the apple cinema display?
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>>63380621
What exactly are you looking for in a monitor? If you want 4k gaming the first stop is usually the Asus PG27AQ but that's not HDR. Do you need Free or G-Sync? Which sizes are ok?
Do you need more than 60hz?
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>tfw all 2666 MHz unbuffered ECC has been sold out for weeks
>except for that one scalper selling it for 25$ / GB
>contact crucial directly
>"we don't know when it will be back in stock"
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>>63380628
Nah your PSU is fine (assuming you're intentionally getting an SFX).
There's nothing really wrong with a 1TB blue, it's just unusual when spending that much.
If you're happy to use a 1050, I'd personally go down to a 1200 using the stock cooler and 8GB of RAM, with 2400 if it's much cheaper. The performance you'd lose overall would be negligible for general use and gaming that a 1050ti would provide and you'd save a shit load.
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>>63380755
OK, so once again, how would buying a console be any better?
or was this actually bait all along...
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>>63380783
I want a WQHD-144hz-g-sync-ips monitor
But i don't want to play the ips lottery
The samsung C27GH70 with g-sync would be maybe a alternative but it has only free-sync
27" to 32" is fine.
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>>63380786
Nah I wasn't intentionally getting an SFX, is this better now?

>>63380668
Okay no need to be rude, how's this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NkbVJV
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does anybody know of a computer case that would like pic related? Or would look really inconspicuous in general?
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>>63380852
A lot better, but overpaying for the video card (not that you have a choice if you want to buy now).
Also why do you want an aftermarket cooler so much? The Wraith Spire that comes with the 1600 is pretty fucking great.
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>>63374427
I was willing to accept 60hz. it is not that I am specifically looking for 60hz.
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>>63380858
What are you asking for, a PC case that looks like a Hi-Fi receiver? You can buy that exactly, display and all.
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>>63380884
neat, thanks mate.
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>>63380870
Yeah I want to buy now, unfortunately, my old laptop has been in its death throes for a while now and I've always regretted not getting a desktop instead

>Also why do you want an aftermarket cooler so much? The Wraith Spire that comes with the 1600 is pretty fucking great.
Oh I just didn't know that desu, I was just seeing other people get separate coolers and just copying them, taking that out then, thanks a lot
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>>63380348
anyone? currently leaning towards the NZXT S340 or the Corsair Carbide 400C
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>>63380930
Why are you asking though? If it's a typical build and you're not in a desert, case doesn't really matter. The brands you listed are all decent, get whatever pleases you the most.
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Will i be able to control the rpm of both fans using pic related?
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should i get a i5-8400 in 2018 with a H370/H310 board or should i wait for the newer intel cpus?
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>>63380960
Because I'm not familiar with the brands, and don't want to invest in a product that might have Gigabyte level quality control or Asus level customer service
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>>63380520
Thanks man, any suggestions for THICC case?
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>>63380835
After perusing some of the current trend in monitor I can see why you are out of ideas. It seems that you might actually want to go with a tn panel and suffer the cons of that or wait until oled displays actually hit the market.
The best 27 inch ips monitor I know is this the Eizo Foris FS2735 which also has really good gaming reviews but sadly only freesync. It's pretty expensive though at around 900$ and even then Eizo might not give you the best panel since it's just their entry level lineup.


>>63380894
If you want it just as a media playing device in your living room streamcom makes the F10 Fanless which is as the name implies fanless and also looks very inconspicuous.
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Can a watercooled 980 (no ti) run 1440p 60hz most recent games?
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>>63381206
not even close
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>>63373982
even if it happens, you can whiten plastics with chemicals + UV lamp
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>>63381123
Thank you.
I think waiting will be the best option
Sad but true.
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New thread mooks
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AGGGGGHHHHH WHAT FUCKING MOBO DO I BUY FOR THIS CUNT 8700K
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>>63381514
Something that can withstand temperatures over the boiling point.
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NEW THREAD >>63381662
NEW THREAD >>63381662
NEW THREAD >>63381662
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>>63374424
Ordered my i5 8600k Sunday from NYC photo company,
>shipped
I'll have Friday
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>>63380930
beware of the s340's plastic window. it scratches easily.

t. s340's owner
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>>63379412
I was warned by some faggot friends that PCI downwards compatibility could be a problem, that the mobo might be too small and whether the power would suffice. What do you think?




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