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### /g/ternet - Let's get building edition ###

Mark yourself on the map with your contact info (can be a cock.li throwaway if you don't want to dox yourself)
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2787145

IRC (SSL): irc.jollo.org:9999 #gternet
Wiki: http://mesh.gentoo.today
Last thread: >>63658474

What is /g/ternet?
/g/ternet would be our own decentralized p2p network running on our own infrastructure, totally disconnected from the clearnet.
It will be a combination of DIY meshnets on a city wide basis, and a platform for interconnecting these city wide meshnets over p2p openvpn bridges and high powered wireless dishes for City to City relays.
The Inter-Meshnet part of the project will allow any existing DIY meshnets to join our network by adding a bridge node or a city to city relay.
The short term goal is to have a few anons set up their own local meshnet and link them together using the bridges as a proof of concept.
A long term goal is gain a large enough user density that we can disable the brige nodes and have our own decentralized network idependent of the internet.
Currently, we're going to use batman-adv.

This project is a week old, so we need all the expertise and help we can get.
Every contribution is valuable!
Gather a group of friends and join the IRC and wiki.

To Do:
- decide on hardware standards for City to City relays
- create resources for newbies on the wiki
- gather more people
- start building internet bridges for the intermesh connections (Linux Sysadmin tier)
- start designing diy kits for meshnet end users (Should be newbie-midlevel friendly tier)
- look into croundfunding options for purchasing city to city relay backbone equipment (Richfag tier)

Things NOT To Do:
- Talk about logos
- Talk about names
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>>63663723
we have these diagrams showing some designs, and a working one.
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My Pis will be here tomorrow. I can get working on the batman meshnet guide as soon as i have them
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roteto best mascot
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There's a guy like 7 miles away from me in wales so that's a pretty feasible distance to connect over.
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>>63663748
Keep politics out of this please. Tech only. We need everyone we can get for this to work
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Any Canadians involved?
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>>63663782
Check the map
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>>63663752
bongnet reporting in!
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>>63663636
Bump
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>>63663762
and roteta
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>>63663636
Look at those digits.
All power to the trigod
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What about people living in small villages?
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>>63664742
Use a p2p bridge node. To link remote meshes to the network over layer 2 internet bridges
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>>63664090
And Kali!
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>>63665325
Okay i agree with the no logo talk stuff but thats pretty good.
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>tfw only person in my country on map

has anyone considered joining the sopranica/WOM project? they intend to make a mesh cell phone network and have been working on that since 2009 I think
https://wom.community/
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I'm pretty sure cock li was busted and has been a honeypot for quite some time now
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>>63665456
so start building your own mesh and getting more people involved on your side locally. We cant just go building this shit as single people.
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lol
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>>63665325
Kali is cute, need her antenna hat tho.
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>>63665600
I know. I just find it amusing because my country prides itself on technology. I will post on local boards to try to garner interest
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>>63663636
No idea how I'd help, but this project seems cool. Don't let me down /g/.
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>>63665710
add your contact info on the map if you're interested
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>>63657831 >>63657865 >>63658013
https://mesh.gentoo.today/wiki/Purpose
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We have git up and some members on the deveopment team have begun commiting to the project.

git dot jollo dot org/gternet/gternet
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>>63666686
This is moving fast.
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>>63663636
>diy meshnet kits
What is /diy/ take on this?
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>>63666686
>have to sign up to view the code
really?
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>>63667392
Can't make internet with shipping containers
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>>63667636
You only need an account to commit/merge
Anything that you cant see means there are no projects, its just an empty sub division (like a folder)

You should be able to see this for an example:
https://git.jollo.org/gternet/software/UserInterfaceModule
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>>63667843
presumably there will be a way to sell donuts though
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bump
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>tfw someone on the map
>he's in my fucking city
Бългapи имa ли yeee
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byampu

Also, what hardware do you guys suggest for a dedicated server? Would an rpi 3 hooked up to an antenna be enough?
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>>63670749
Something like a raspi works for all cases, the actual antenna is the issue. I am still waiting to know what's the final decision from the hardware wizards on what to use.
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>>63670790
I personally think the new Ubiquiti LiteBeam is a great antenna for it. It’s pretty powerful, rather cheap ($57), and perfect for our needs. But let’s see what /g/ decides.
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>>63670864
Isn't there a wiki page to add the recommended hardware?
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Added a page on Peer-2-Peer services https://mesh.gentoo.today/wiki/Peer-2-Peer_Services
Is crucial to have some services to keep people happy in this new network.
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Bump
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byampu
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>>63670864
So hypothetically I could use the guide knots was working on paired with two of these to connect with say my brother's house like less than five miles away?
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How usable is GNUnet from command line?
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>>63663636
>To Do:
>- decide on hardware standards for City to City relays
How about this?
https://www.gotenna.com/
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>>63672615
Are you a wizard?
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oh.
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>>63672642
yes. however we have not started working on the wireless intermesh part. right now all the local meshnets have to be linked with an internet bridge. But that is a good setup for you to start trying to figure out what we have to do for long distance wireless connections.
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>>63672723
We have this conversation. GNUnet on CLI is better than their GUI, you can actually make it work.
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Knots here. Pis got delivered today after all. Its getting real /g/
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>>63673583
just read it from IRC, may the testing begin!
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>>63673583
Are those nachos? Also good to hear from you again.
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>>63672642
>>63673464
>>63670864
If you can grab a clear line of sight looks like some of the customers were saying they could get a mile pretty easily and around 3 miles with enough precision. (Model LBE-5AC-23-US)
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Ignored By Big Telecom, Detroit's Marginalized Communities Are Building Their Own Interne

https://motherboard.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/kz3xyz/detroit-mesh-network
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>>63673991
>google amp
better link https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/kz3xyz/detroit-mesh-network
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>>63673991
>Detroit
Only Robocop can help that place.
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>>63672731
looks cute, but it's kinda expensive and the shipping is limited, but I thinks it's good suggestion
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>>63663636
>closest person is like 300km away
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>>63674083
build a local meshnet and a p2p intermesh node faggot
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bongnet when?
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Can we have Kali as official mascot too?
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>>63674673
as soon as you brits stop sipping tea and start building
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thoughts on creating a crypto token and ICO to fund development?

The hook for the ICO will be that you can use the tokens as the future /g/ternet currency e.g. for bandwidth / storage / domain registration / ad space etc.

I can code the smart contract for the currency quite easily
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>>63675777
>fund development
Before making yet another cryptocurrency you should have done crowdfunding and accept donations to make antennas and buy equipment for long range transmission.

Even then the idea is terrible if you think how bad it can go.
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What is happening with the wiki?
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>>63675932
its constantly going down if that answers your question, and slow when its up
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>>63675812
the crypto is the crowdfunding...
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>>63675777
>he wants more
https://cryptocoincharts.info/coins/info
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>>63675932
>>63675973
https://git.jollo.org/gternet/gternet/issues/6

>>63675777
>>63675812
>>63675983
in irc we came up with the possible idea of selling premade wireless routers using something like rpi and a decent antenna. that would be more than suitable to crowdfund
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>>63676077
>selling premade wireless routers using something like rpi and a decent antenna
This is one is a good idea. This way normies can join too, by buying premade stuff.

Then, we can start building long range stuff.
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>>63676077
>>63676148
Knots here. I like this idea.

I just grabbed usb cables. Micro sd carslds, and solar panels for my PIs.

Im just waiting on my weed guy then im heading home to work on the meshnet stuff.
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>>63676148
how long range can we make a single RPI (or other node in a box solution)?
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>>63663636
Suppose we are lucky and the FCC doesn't repeal Net Neutrality. Will people still be interested in this project?
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>>63676268
Ill let you know once i test with mine. Im thinking probably less than 100 feet between rips with their stock antenna
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>>63676077
>>63675983
>>63675994
>>63675777
>>63675812

here we go boys, im ready to pull the trigger
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>>63676273
Yes.
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>>63676273
yes because our network will basically be free
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>>63676268
>single RPI
Again, the raspi is the computer running the server, not the antenna making the transmission. Completely different things.

>>63676273
YES.

>>63676287
kek
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>>63676287
>>63676328

we are live, let the crowdfunding commence
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>>63676328
don't be so pedantic, you know what i meant. We provide a box (rpi / whatever + antenna + power supply), user plugs it in to power socket, it boots and starts broadcasting. How close does it need to be to another node to join the network?
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>>63676268
well if you used something like https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0039ORBLK/ with a powerful usb wifi adapter, i would guess 1km?. because these are omni directional, its just a guess ,9dbi seems powerful
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>>63676444
I don't know which antenna you are using and we haven't decided on one, that's the problem.

Maybe after we see which thing to buy like >>63676483
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Please add all your suggestions to https://mesh.gentoo.today/wiki/Hardware

I want to know what antenna to buy.
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>>63676558
we should test the antennas before we add them to the recommendations list.
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>>63676499
so, let's assume max 500 meters (1600 feet to amerifags) in an urban environment. One of these would cost about 50 USD to put together (ie. rasp PI + battery pack / power supply + antenna).

So let's blanket an entire region by placing them at strategic locations in a densely populated area, approx 500 meters apart. If we raise say 500k, we can put down 10,000 of these bad boys and our network is up and running with the normies across an entire country.
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>>63676583
Maybe is better to add them to the list and put a note about if its confirmed to work well and its range.
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>>63676362
i have 10,000 GINTs who wants one?
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>>63676591
Sounds like a plan. Make sure to include solar panels if the whole thing doesn't consume much power and the weather is good.
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>>63676174
>>63676558
I'd also like to know what solar panel you used for the pi.
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How do I contribute to this? I'm quite interested in the idea..
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The Litebeam ac looks like the best range if true. Let me know if any of you use it.
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Remember about BOINC if you guys need computer power for something https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Open_Infrastructure_for_Network_Computing

Maybe even mining cryptocurrencies for this project?
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>>63677334
I work at my university's HPC lab, let me know if you guys need any big jobs done and I'll throw them on one of our clusters
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>>63677407
Thanks.
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>>63677253
Get in the IRC and check the wiki.
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>>63677023
just some cheapo non brand name shit i got from bestbuy for like 30 bucks. I havent gotten to that point of testing but ill keep all of you posted.
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why "Jollo"?
what's the meaning of this?
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>>63678030
Yolo
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>>63678030
http://jollo.org/LNT/doc/education/history.html
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>>63678077
>>63678095
hmm...
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>>63665325
why is she upskirting herself?
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>>63678368
I can't get past the IDENT in jollo and keep getting banned. What do?
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Knots here

ITS FUCKING WORKING GUYS

I have two pis set up with batman that are meshed together and can communicate with each other independently of my home network. I am setting up the third one now and will try to tie them to a p2p Intermesh relay soon.

PROGRESS!!!
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wrong pic
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>>63679142
Fuck knots. I'm falling behind. Ordering my Pi's now.
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Lucky me, I already own an odroid.
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>>63678864
I don't know I just use Kiwi IRC

https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.jollo.org:9999/#gternet

I put my name
mark the "SSL"

and when I enter the channel, I type:
"/msg plinko login"

and BAM.
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>>63663636
>>63663723

I think you are being a bit broad.

Are you designing a decentralized network or a internet V2?

For example. why would I use this over regular internet? Are there founders?

How would building any RPC over Web protocols work in a massive relay network without enormous lag?

SFTP/FTP servers implies sending a basic document html to the end user, or that I wouldn't be using documents over the mesh network at all.

Markdown
1.  HTTP based network browsing?
1. Client side TOR like client to get connected?
1. Where will DNS be hosted and how do we pay for bandwidth?
1. How do you update non-primary DNS servers?
1. Who will host primary or main DHCP scope if openVPN?
1. Based on internet or completely non-connected to internet?
1. Better security protocols out of gate than internet?
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>>63679950
We are designing an internet v2 but we have to use the internet as a backbone until we hit enough critical user mass that we can turn off the internet bridges.
1) Yes at some point. Our network will have no content on it so it will be up to other sysadmin types to add services
2) No, users will need one of our pis to connect to the meshnet or have to set up their own city to city relay or internet bridge.
3) We are still working on this. I am thinking some kind up updated file on git that will pull active node information from

4) based off of the internet for now as a way to connect distant meshnets. will eventually be totally unconnected. However there will be no clearnet access from within our network even with the internet bridges in play.
5. We are enforcing tls 1.2 for transport security. and anything else you think would be good.

jump on the IRC and join us anon
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>>63680271
I'll hop on in a bit. Installing linux to a separate partition on one of my notebooks so I can get settled in before contributing.

I like where you guys are going but it sounds like you have the opportunity to design it to be mainstream before it picks up traction.
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Has anybody tried this?
https://github.com/raben2/GNUPInet
Considering running this on my seedbox pi because I can't get gnunet installed on my arch computer (gnunet is a fucking mess desu)
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>>63681063
You referring to the client that is on gitlab being a mess?
If so, when I peaked at it, it _did_ look a little clunky.
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>>63665457
NO
IT CAN'T BE
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>>63681105
I went through the official channels and they said their latest stable branch isn't actually usable and to use the development branch, and the development branch doesn't work either. Then they fell silent when I couldn't get it working. That looks like a complete script for install so it should work.
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>>63674673 big up the upcoming Leeds arm of bongnet. Guy from Puds can join too
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Knots again guys.

I have made a script to make it easier to set up batman on a raspberry pi 3. Its still a work in progress, just started it 20 mins ago. Its tested and working in my setup

https://git.jollo.org/gternet/software/mesh_setup/blob/master/mesh_setup.sh
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Ok so I just ordered. A pi 3, pi zero, 2x laser diodes(fuck the haters), some photo diodes and op amps, and some parabolic mirrors. $150. I'm all in now. My goal is a range of a half mile.
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>>63681664
i dont support lasers in general but all power to you

godspeed anon
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>>63681664
Explain.

The laser diode would transmit light but not the frequency of a typical wifi based device. Have you thought about replacing the power with a battery set and some solar panels? The whole kit you have could go on the roof and get some damn good reception.

Also where are you out of?
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>>63681686
I don't really have high hopes either, but they were on sale. The lasers themselves aren't the weak point, it's the receivers, my plan is to house it in a 6" x 3' tube(to cut down on ambient light) with a focusing mirror on the back, and a color filter in the front, so basically a telescope. Then use a external photo transister and opamp to filter out anything at or below ambient light level. Also the lasers I got are rated at 50khz, but it's doubtful I will reach anywhere near that speed.
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>>63681813
I'm out of huntsville Al. The whole reason I'm going the laser route is low power consumption, so that I can use it in conjunction with a solar panel. My hope is to be able to set up a node on a local mountain.
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>>63681857
So walk me through the laser route. I've never done anything outside of broadcasting from a raspberry Pi's wifi dongle before/setup some APs.

If I wanted to connect to you, am I able to connect to the broadcast as long as its within range of the laser's range? Or do I get a raspberry pi with a setup like yours, put it on the same frequency, then link my network to yours?

If you have web articles on the subject Ill take those to save some explanation.
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>>63681664
Laaaaazors
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>>63673583
>>63679142
>>63681419

God Pis are so fucking based. Why have I not bought one until now?
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>>63670864
Height is going to be an issue. Where will this be mounted and powered?
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keep forgetting to add pic
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Knots:
Came by the message you left me in /cyb/ + /sec/.: >>63681468

I am finishing up some red team stuff for work right now.(I just saw your message when I tool a break).

Knots, from what I have seen and read of your work in/from this thread, I have a great deal of respect and enthusiasm for what you (and everyone involved as well) are doing.

Starting tomorrow later afternoon/ear;y evening EST I have a couple days between engagements/clients; I can invest/dedicate this time in helping you in anyway I can.

AFter that my time will be more constrained, but I will certainly do whatever I can to aid you
.
Knots, I am generally a bit of a space case and only check my e-mail a few times per day; you can reach me at this e-mail, and I will make sure to check it on the regular for the forseeable future : NioDevilRuinX11@memeware.net
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>>63681945
Put simply lasers are just really directional antennas with a frequency in the visible spectrum. Why use them? Light in the visible spectrum is not a regulated radio frequency. they are cheap and widely available. Here is the most interesting article I found. https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/128207-1gbps-wireless-network-made-with-red-and-green-laser-pointers. Mostly I'm just making it up as I go.
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>>63682380
Last pic of the night i think. have two of them running. meshnet script works, you have to run it twice for some reason but ill worry about that in the morning.
run
git clone https://git.jollo.org/gternet/software/mesh_setup.git
cd mesh_setup
sudo ./mesh_setup.sh

>>63682538
Sent you an email.
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>>63679242
you don't need to log into plinko lol
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>>63663752
>laser
fuck off, discussing this larp-tier shit is against the rules. We're using long-range wifi (LiteBeam AC by Ubiquiti for example) for intra-city connections
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the only way this project is going to get off the ground is to spend a lot of time creating local organizations to make it happen. The dispersed nature of the internet means internet organization is impossible.

Everyone should join a hackerspace and get them working on a local mesh.
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>>63682824
the problem is lasers only transmit in one direction, from sender(A) to receiver(B) . to transmit from B to A, you need another laser. otherwise only download no upload, and without upload no download because no clue what data to send
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>>63665457
I hope not :(
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I have a Raspberry Pi lying around that I could use. What else would I need to contribute?
I know jack shit about networking/Internet so are there any books/resources you guys could also recommend?
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>>63684037
https://mesh.gentoo.today/wiki/Special:AllPages

Phone posting, sorry
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>>63682957
yes, but I can keep my username
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>batman-adv
So this is our interior gateway protocol? And to connect different local meshnets we use BGP?

Who is the /g/RIN (/g/ Registry for Internet Numbers)? How can i get a subnet? And an ASN? And what is the difference to https://dn42.eu/Home?
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>>63676644
I want one, if you mind
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byampu
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>>63683473
I guess you'd have to communicate a connection beforehand. im not the same guy, but I'm interested in this
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>>63681816
thinker around and than post results on wiki.

good luck.
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>>63686854
Knots here.

At work. Lets see how much i can do for /g/ underbthe radar
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>>63683473
That's why I bought 2.
>>63681664
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We on the spectrum now boys.
https://www.darpa.mil/ddm_gallery/january_2016_spectrum_wall_chart.jpg
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>>63687592
wait what? what frequency?
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>>63687981
autismo mhz
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>>63687981
It was an autism joke.
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>>63688059
of course it was. shouldve known.
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Knots here again, in meetings for work most of the afternoon. Ill be lurking and will be actively working later tonight.
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>>63688577
henlo
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>>63688696
>
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~ byampu-ru ~
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Are there any other anons in South-Central Georgia (US)? This looks pretty nifty and well thought out but there's no one close enough for me to mesh with. It looks like I'd have to be an internet gateway, correct?
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>>63689524
Correct
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>>63689524
if you can get any neighbors to join. and assuming that later on our finest data hoarders will join the mesh and actually give you reason to use over the current internet
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>>63687547
>That's why I bought 2.
So you plan on building a single laser node with nothing to connect to?
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>4chan saving humanity yet again
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>>63689879
2 lasers for sending data 2 photodiodes for receiving. Explain to me how you would go about receiving data with another laser.
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>>63689983
>receiving data with another laser
you can do this
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>>63690005
[CITATION NEEDED]
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>>63690005
You can, but why would you? Unless the lasers are perfectly aligned, your fucked.
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>>63690029
>[SPOONFEEDING NEEDED]
Go read a book.
And the rest of you homos, please don't waste any more time on idiotic laser discussion -- we all know conventional RF is the only practical medium. Focus your efforts on a workable solution if you're going to go to the trouble of setting up a node.
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>>63681664
>$150 for half a mile
now this is efficiency
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LASERS ARE RETARDED

LONG-RANGE WIFI SOLVES THE PROBABLY MORE EASILY AND MORE REALIABLY
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>>63689983
reminder to everyone else not to waste money on lazors
also http://www.instructables.com/id/Laser-Transceiver/
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>>63690240
Then set up a long range wifi node and stop complaining. If you aren't going to do shit then you have no say in this.
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>>63690425
>complaining
Just consider it a friendly reminder, as well as an effort to keep the project focused rather than turning into a clusterfuck of half-assed incompatible devices.
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>>63690480
Just so you know I already have two wifi bridges. I'm just doing this till everyone has thier act together.
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>>63690240
Facebook doesn't think lasers are retarded: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/07/facebook-our-drones-will-use-lasers-to-deliver-10gbps-internet-access/
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>drones
wew lad.
Imagine trying to stabilize and aim that fucking laser. Good luck, suckerberg.
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>>63689661
Well damn, that blows since apartment is too cheap to run Ethernet through the apartment, I'd rather not bottleneck folks cause of WiFi (albeit really good WiFi)
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>>63690747

Facebook likes it. Well damn that's it I'm out.
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>>63683337
20KM LOS? I don't think so lol. Lasers are still gay as fuck though.
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>>63690747
>10gbps
>aug 1,2015
GAS THE JEW
>GAS THE JEW
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Is the IRC down? I keep getting connection resets.
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GIGA BYAAAAMMMPPPPUUUUUU
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>>63691997

It's up.
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>>63689702
>our finest data hoarders
Hello
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>>63688790
wew
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why not joining an existing meshnet?
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>>63694493
It will happen of course if you have one near you. We just set standards to make it easy to coordinate ourselves.
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Battery powered gternet meshed datacenter anyone?
Put around 50 gb of stuff on the flashdrive as an ftp server to help woth proof of concept. Trying to tie to a p2p intermesh bridge now.
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bumpu
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>>63694781
>>63694795

Lightly modified my script (changed the name of the wifi device) to work with my Thinkpad running Debian. It works, I can join the mesh, and can ping all the other nodes. Still working on proof of concept ftp server
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>>63696009
>work with my Thinkpad running Debian
Nice.
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>>63696009

sexy as fuck
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based af
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>>63696009
Me again
Everyone lurking this thread come over to the IRC. I will be around until around 1AM Eastern time to help out anyone who whats to get this working themselves on a few old laptops or any other linux device that supports batctl.
We all need to start building now. No more lurking.
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Bumpity
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>>63696382
Hey it's Grim. Tomorrow my goal is to have my rpi and laptop up and running. I had some other stuff going on tonight otherwise I'd be futher along than i am.

I'm also gonna start work on a yagi so we can do some distance checks. Hopefully we can determine and mitigate the LoS issues that will inevitably rear up.

Thanks again for all your contributions, man.
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>>63696382
Hey guys, spaghettiman here, currently on irc. I've lurked on this this thread since the start . I'm gonna order an rpi and start testing stuff this weekend.
A friend of mine already got one (birthday present for a retropie), so i'm gonna recruit him for this (he lives in a out of the city, just enough to be away from a cable connession; he'll be more than happy to help).
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One of the people on the IRC was having issues with my p2p intermesh setup script. I just retested it an updated the instructions here
https://git.jollo.org/gternet/architecture/intermesh/blob/master/docs/Deploy_new_intermesh_node.txt

We on the IRC have decided the enforce IPv6 for both mesh networks and openvpn nodes. We are testing out using one big ipv6 subnet.
e000/8 subnet for internet bridges and city to city relays, and e000/64 for every meshed device on our network. Openvpn bridges operate at layer 2, so in theory, once we start tieing together our meshes and get our routing rules right, we should all be on the same network.
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>>63682898
Just bought a pi zero w and a kit that came with an extra wifi dongle. I'll test your script on my pi 2 and the pi zero when I get my stuff. Not sure why it wouldn't work out of the box, but catching problems seems like a good idea.
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Byyyyyyaaaaaammmmmpppuuuuu
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>>63697943
Night everyone

Progress is coming fast. We are more than just another logo project!
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Hey peeps, tomorrow I'll start work on a way to allocate addresses and IDs to nodes. If you have any suggestions just ping me on the IRC
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Saw as op for another thread. Could come in handy for mass producing?

http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aliexpress.com%2Fitem%2Fnew-NODEMCU-wifi-NodeMCU-forArduino-ESP8266-wemos-for-OLED%2F32802182457.html
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>>63699125
Or these

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32761500374.html?spm=a2g0n.search-cache.0.0.72574d2esD83Ll
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Is there any way I can participate in this project when I live in a relatively remote location where there probably aren't other people interested?
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>>63699268
Sure you can.
https://mesh.gentoo.today/wiki/To-do_list
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>>63675777
ICOs are a scam. Don't fall for them.
Also, by trading cryptos for bandwidth the network will turn into just another for-profit ISP.
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Glad this is alive
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I'm against an ICO. I won't go into a details why.
However, nodes should have an incentive, and if you are a site owner, you might want to monetize your videos without advt in the gternet
Simply use Bitcoin's wip lightning network. It'll be wip for maybe 6 more months.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/16BK53bnfRVu_iHJKw2f82DRg6kk8061gxiJeKTCciKY/edit#slide=id.g2005d26133_0_17
Article : https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-meets-netflix-laolu-building-lightning-powered-app/
Obviously these are opt in. It's just a layer above. No one needs to have Bitcoin to use the gternet itself.
I've my exams now, after that I'll create some guides.

PS : I'm ordering a couple of pi zero w. Will those do? Or should I get something bigger?
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We could use name coin (the first alt cryptocurrency) for domain names.
Zeronet uses name coin. Domain name costs only some fraction of a cent.
It's merge mined, so it's hard to attack.
In the spirit of decentralization, this too would be optional. If you prefer some other dns system you should be able to use it.
We should try to use existing software, not roll out our own ICO.
Rolling out an ICO will sound like a scam to all outsiders.
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So is Batman an ipfs competitor?
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How do I join the IRC from riot.im (matrix)?
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so is /g/ternet something like secure scuttlebutt?
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>>63700832
https://emmibe.wordpress.com/2017/05/26/ungovernable-internet-with-scuttlebutt/
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>>63663636
>It will be a combination of DIY meshnets on a city wide basis, and a platform for interconnecting these city wide meshnets over p2p openvpn bridges and high powered wireless dishes for City to City relays.
I'm laughing for real right now.
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Are we just going to keep re spawning this thread? Or are we going to have a proper website?
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>>63701119
someone in irc was setting up a mybb yesterday. I don't remember who, though.
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>>63701177
>not just hosting it yourself
I mean if it's so easy to create a global meshnet, surely serving a website should be a piece of cake...
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oh chill out
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>>63699154

these would work well, first they're dirt cheap, second they have a removable antenna lead

>>63701035
what's so funny? they exist now on commodity hardware
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>>63682824
Nice. I figured as much. I thought they were always on the high end of the frequency. Might want to look into potential health risks (I suggest mildly).

Ok neat so this could be a viable option.
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>>63699896
no... try reading the description for both
>>63700029
you can't, at least not yet. people have been talking about maybe setting up a relay, but there aren't immediately any plans for it. just use irc for now
>>63701177
that was me but i was doing it for someone else, not for /g/ternet. i will set up nntp some time soon if that's of interest to you though
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Morning /g/.

At work in the office again today. Alsmost got caught working on this on Uni time (they dont really care) by our sr sysadmin. He saw my ssh session when i was generating a dh param pem and asked wtf i was doing. Played it off that it was fir perfect forward secrecy for our openshift cluster sites.
Anyway going to work today and will register a domain. I suck at web development so if someone wants to make a site (with no javascript pls, i want to make a tor mirror too) and send me the files it would be awesome. Ill be on IRC most of the day.
>>63701035
Pack it in everyone. Turns out we are dumb
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>>63701035
>I'm laughing for real right now.
nice argument
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I don't get the end goal here
What will you all be sharing on gternet which won't also be on internet?
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>>63702195
how are the Pi's holding up?
have you tried doing some stress tests on them?
I was thinking about getting a few NanoPi NEO's, but I'm not sure if they are powerful enough.
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>>63702731
We want to have a platfirm for building a better, secure by default network that will allow people to connect without an ISP.
We all have a lot of different political views here but the common thread seems to be that we support open free access to information. We are trying to solidify that for the future.
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>>63702768
Pis running fine. I think i may need to get heat sinks for them though once i start stress testing. Still trying to get a final proof of concept before i work on that

The pis seem to work fine when they are acting headless. My pi3s appear to be sluggish over ssh when batman is running. Ill address that tonight wjen im home.
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>>63702731
can you not read? see >>63666140
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>>63663636
Ultimately we just need a map, and for people to start.

>1. Populate map with as many people as possible
>2. Biggest clusters need to get started on linking up.

>3. As clusters form, we work on either extending the range of the cluster via more users or long range options.

>4. Refine and improve
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>>63702864
Easier said than done, I've got one person in my country and he's 175 Km away.
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>>63702969
There are others, they just need to be aware of the project and see it going places. People arent convinced yet, so we need to create a couple of good size clusters and connect them, or start with small networks within big cities as proof of concept. This will get more people interested and involved to fill in the hops you need for that 175km
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>>63685046
I'm still interested how you would like to do ip allocation and WAN routing in a decentralized way.
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>>63703639
We are working on using generated keys using hash tables. Ask cat on the IRC. He can explain it better than me.

>>63702796

I just finished working out the kinks in my p2p_node_setup.sh script, I added a bunch of color for important output to make it easy for noobs. And also added a "display next steps [y/n]" part to show the steps of making new client configs and connecting to other nodes from within the script.

Check out the updated guide here:
https://git.jollo.org/gternet/architecture/intermesh/blob/master/docs/Deploy_new_intermesh_node.txt

And see the whole repo for intermesh stuff here:
https://git.jollo.org/gternet/architecture/intermesh

Also check out the updated batman script (that now works with any wifi device name) here:
https://git.jollo.org/gternet/software/mesh_setup/tree/master
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IRC on phone keeps closing and I lose previous messages
Any way to check messages while I was offline?
For what's it worth, I convinced 2 dorm mates into this.
Now they are asking me how much it would cost. What's a ballpark?
Can someone tldr Batman adv? How is it different from ipfs?
Im not doing a Cs degree so I don't know much
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Share your ipfs hashes!
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>>63704271
Get a throw away email amd post here. Ill send you my chat logs later
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>>63704293
it's lukehanson at protonmail .com
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>>63704321
Will send when im back from luncj
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>>63704378
Thanks
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>>63685046
>PoE
>Raspberry Pi
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>>63705472
It's almost like you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>63705472
and?
>"it'll drain it's battery!"
>"raspberry has no power!"
>"it won't work because I said so!"
you don't know much about hardware, do you?
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Can someone please post their complete IRC logs? I want to see the discussions. If you have everything up to date that would be awesome!
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>>63705542
>>63705575
How would you get 24V from a 5V supplied Raspberry Pi Ethernet port? Please tell me
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>>63705577
We really should get a better chat
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>>63705624
Use and external supply. That's what mine use.
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>>63705624
Ubiquiti products all come with RJ45 POE injectors you dense piss.
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802.11ah when?
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>>63704406
>>63705577
I have the full one since i started working on the project on my home PC. I get to whomever wants it once im home. Drop a throwaway email and ill send it out later
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>>63705644
For the Antenna only I assume?
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>>63705667
:^)
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>>63705711
Thanks.
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Can someone post a guide to getting into IRC?
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>>63706192
Check the wiki
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>>63706192
Just connect to irc.jollo.org, port 9999 (+9999 on mirc) with your favorite IRC client and go to #gternet. If you can't connect enable ssl
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>>63706729
Unknown host in Hexchat
IRC.jollo.org/9999
Use SSL enabled
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>discussing this larp-tier shit is against the rules
>We're using wifi to connect across thousands of miles
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>>63707499
No the fuck we arent.
Please read thebthread and the materials provided as an introduction to what we are trying to accomplish and how we plan to get there. Get on the IRC and ask questions.
Dont post stupid uninformed opinions.

That neing said. Yes lasers are larp teir shit. No we will not support them off the bat.
If you want to persue that route for your own interests and you think you can get it to work than all power to you! Post about it here and on the wiki of you build something cool. This is a community project so im sure some EE friends could cook up some cool shit.
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Byampu
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>>63691245
Not impossible, but definitely expensive.
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>>63694493
Ideally, all meshnets will eventually... mesh together.
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>>63707926

I've been here since the original thread reddit but sure keep larping about wifi and satellites
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>>63708757
k cool since i totally dont know what im doing apparently why dont you go to the git and wiki, read what we already have and TELL US WHY you think we are going in the wrong direction. because right now all you are coming off as is:
"hurr im so /g/ 1337 hax0rman" and its corny as fuck.
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>>63708886
common sense?
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>>63708757
We've already addressed that the backbone will not be wireless
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>>63709760
You cannot as a small private entity lay mile long cables between cities
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>>63709686
do elaborate. If you know something we havent thought of I'd love to hear it before we go to the testing phase in the next few days.
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>>63709859
wew you didnt read a single fucking thing in this thread did you buddy?
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>>63663636
>>63663636

New thread >>63711636




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