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first for bepis
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>>63710154
>supporting botnet neutrality
ytho?
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>>63710257
Go back to re ddit, you clearly understand nothing
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IPs visiting /pol/ should be b& from other boards for 48hrs.
upvote pls.
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>>63710382
this
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First for freedom.
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>>63710382
> supporting censorship
Tumblr pls
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>>63710445
Not really censorship. More like an idiot filter.
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>>63710511
>filter
Censorship
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>>63710382
take my (You), good gentlesir! :-D
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is there anything to be done about the intel management engine at this point besides wait for a microcode update?
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>>63710154
Bumping for my question earlier. What distro should I switch to if Debian isn't fulfilling my needs in customization? I run an Atom N550 on a Latitude 2120 and Gentoo isn't an option because of the absurdly long compile times. I'd love to install though.
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/usr/share/keymaps is empty and "localectl list-keymaps" returns "Couldn't find any console keymaps." Subsequently, I am unable to loadkeys... are they stored somewhere else? Where can I downlaod the keymaps?
I'm on Raspbian
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>>63710808
Arch
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>>63710808
Arch
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>>63710808
Arch
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>>63710808
Arch
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>>63710813
Related, how to convert setxkbmap layouts to loadkeys layouts?
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>>63710382
fuck off
sa-GAY
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>>63710808
Arch
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>>63710808
CloverOS

Support the community
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So is screen tearing just the reality with Xubuntu/XFCE?

I have the proprietary drivers, ForceFullCompositionPipeline is enabled in my nvidia-settings, compton is installed.

The tearing is less of an issue but still occasionally present.


If I switch to the standard Ubuntu will this not be a problem?

Or Debian with something other than XFCE?

I'm not emotionally tied to Xubuntu so I could switch.
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>>63710154
Are we allied with ledit and google now thanks to NN? Who knew that Google was looking out for our internet? Man these are strange times. I'm probably going to buy a Chromebook to thank them. Open Source all the way, but gotta thank your true allies.
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>>63711031
google isn't "looking out for the internet" they're just covering their own ass so they don't get throttled. Just so happens that their position aligns with ours.
Also make sure you check the galliumOS compatibility list before buying a chromebook, so you know you can install linux on it.

>>63711030
install compton.
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>>63711045
Nah I don't think Google would do that. They're too big to be throttled. They're definitely looking out for us. I'm definitely not going to mess up my chromebook with other operating systems. Chrome OS is linux already. Open Source all the way and all, but you gotta thank you true allies.
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>>63711045
>compton is installed
>"install compton"
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>>63711031
>>63711062
bait
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Which GNU/Linux distro is best for my boyfriend moving from windows?
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>>63711145
arch
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>>63711145
debian, arch

unironically gentoo
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>>63711030
screen tearing is the reality with nvidia hardware. Either learn to live with it (preferably disable it globally for performance) or use gnome/kde/compiz (unity), but you will still experience some slowdowns or tearing.
t. nvidia 9800gt/gtx 760/gtx 1060 user. From my experience gnome works best.
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>>63711179
Thank you for the response.
Sorry, but when you say 'disable it globally' what do you mean?
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>>63710194
hell yea dude
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>>63710808
Arch
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>dabbled in Linux back in college
>ultimately stuck with Windows 7
>graduated, now work
>fed up with Windows 10's updates and ads
>install [spoiler]Ubuntu[/spoiler] for simplicity >>implying
>can remote into my work desktop and do everything I normally do on windows with Ubuntu
>have not booted up Windows since Sunday

this is great. I heard Debian is even better though but don't want to switch yet
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>>63710154
Linux can't see my wifi interface anymore. Nothing about it shows up in iwconfig, but I know that it worked yesterday and the drivers were installed. The driver name is rtl8814au
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>>63711320
Does it show up in lspci?
Did you update the kernel and forget to reinstall the firmware(dkms?)
Did you try to modprobe the driver name?
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>>63711295
Welcome back to the fold.
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>>63711295
Congratulations, anon.
Debian is not worth switching for unless you need it. Do it if you get fed up with Ubuntu, which may or may not happen.
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>>63711295
>I heard Debian is even better though but don't want to switch yet
Debian is great if, like me, you autistically want your computer to do exactly what you tell it to and nothing else, and will tolerate no shit, at the cost of spending a fair bit more time getting things to work just the way you want.

Ubuntu is great if you want things to just work without whining or undue maintenance or fussing around.

Pick your poison, anon~
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>>63711231
you can force vsync off in nvidia driver settings ,at least on consumer cards.
The option is "sync to vblank" Some programs may override it, but performance will be better anyway.
If you really dislike vsync you can forget that, and enable tripple buffering and the tforcefullcompositionpipline option in xorg.conf. it gets laggy in my experience there should be no tearing. Google it for how-to and use the nvidia-settings to create an xorg.conf file.
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how do you guys shut down your computers?

I use shutdown -h now
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>>63711334
Kernel is the same, firmware is in dkms for the kernel version

modprobe -a doesn't work

lcpci shows nothing
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>>63711416
run dkms again and then reboot
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>>63711382
>you autistically want your computer to do exactly what you tell it to and nothing else, and will tolerate no shit

This is quite attractive to me, I've been using Ubuntu for about a year now.

As Ubuntu is based on Debian, would I have access to the same packages/ppas as on Ubuntu, or an equally comprehensive selection? I really have no reason to switch other than to have something to tinker with.
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I don't understand how people can miss Windows. Debian/Fedora with Xfce is a pleasure to use.
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>>63711408
Thanks, I've already got the xorg.conf so will try that next.
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>>63711408
*if you really dislike tearing.
i need to sleep

enable the full composition pipeline with the tickbox in nvidia settings, and use "save to X configuration file" to save it as /etc/X11/xorg.conf, (you can resize the window that asks you where you want to save the file to edit the file manually)

basicly to force tripple buffering you need to add
Option "TripleBuffer" "True"
in the device section of your xorg.conf file (the one that has your gpu model listed).
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>>63711427
If you want this, then you really should check out Arch Linux. It's better than Debian in the tinkering sense.
Also it has AUR, which is so much better than PPA or whatever that garbage pile is called.
Also it's rolling release, so you never have to explicitly upgrade to the latest version.

Arch is good.
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>>63711426
Did you mean dkms autoinstall? Because that didn't work.
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>>63711348
>>63711354
>>63711382

thanks guys. Ubuntu does everything I need it to do now perfectly. I was shocked at how simple it was to remote connect to my work computer's desktop using Citrix (got it working in about an hour with basic googling and the terminal)
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>>63710808
Debian, arch is bloat
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>>63711488
use dkms to install your firmware in to the kernel again
or
just reinstall your firmware package and dkms will do its job
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>>63711475
Yea I've got the winter break coming up between semesters so I figure that'd be a good time to try something new. I guess ubuntu is really nice because when you google an issue there are so many answers, askubuntu, the forums. But it seems arch has just as active a community.
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>>63711502
Which kernel?
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>>63711475
This.

Tinkering is not what Debian is good at. Debian is great if you want something specific, so you arrange that specific setup, and then you don't touch it again and start doing real work. If you like tinkering for the sake of tinkering, try arch.
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>>63711577
Which ever kernel you are using.
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>>63711513
Yep, Arch is very good for that. Arch Wiki is a great resource for any distro, but especially so for Arch.
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>>63711577
You have the same problem as me?
>>63711587
It looks like manually reinstalling did the trick. God, linux is so annoying sometimes. Thanks for the help.
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>>63711788
The price we pay for FREEDOM
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Ubuntu or Arch for an old macbook pro 7.1? I'm a linux noob but can invest a bit of time into learning and I'm not a retard (i think).
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>>63712079
As others have noted in this thread, Arch is great for tinkering. If that is what you are into then go for Arch. It is a fine distro, but requires a bit more work. The AUR is excellent, as is the wiki.

Ubuntu on the other hand is interesting because if you don't want to do anything extra you do not have to. You can stay in the gui for ever and not want for more. But you can also use the fantastic Ubuntu community to learn and modify how your Ubuntu works.

Either choice would be excellent if you are a self-motivated learner.
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>>63711577
Linux
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>>63712260
The AUR is a insecure piece of shit.
It's funny, in Ubuntu country people warn you and recommend to avoid third party packages, on Arch the same thing gets meme'd as "feature" because Arch lacks packages. Same with the "lightweight" Arch meme, since Arch packages are actually bloated as shit, and while other distributions avoid bloat by package splitting, Arch gives you the full load. Maybe lazyness, would also explain why a "distro you can built from ground up like you want" cones with systend.

tl;dr Arch is a meme
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>>63712399
Arch is for advanced users.
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What modules do I have to blacklist to block iptables entirely? (Moved to nftables).

So far I have ip_tables, iptable_nat, iptable_filter, iptable_mangle, ip6_tables, ip6table_filter.

Can't see any others by grepping lsmod except possibly x_tables.
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>>63710154
Stop making threads with this garbage.
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>>63712399
FUD, the post.

>AUR is insecure
AUR is not insecure if you can read and you're not retarded, so I guess that rules you out.

>bloated packages
not this shit again. You're just spewing nonsense without a single idea of what you're talking about.

>Arch is a meme
Arch is a meme is a meme, and a dead one at that. So, please, fuck off.
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>>63712399
Tbh after using it for 2 years I've realized this message is just regurgitated FUD, probably mostly from people that don't actually use Arch.

I understand why it may appear that these things are true, but they're really not.

I run it on my desktop, 2 laptops, home and remote server, only had an issue that was a major problem once and that was the fault of nvidia.
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Anyone have a filter list that I can bum?
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>>63711295
>can remote into my work desktop and do everything I normally do on windows with Ubuntu
What do you use?
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>>63712758
t. jew or /pol/
im not sure which at this point maybe both
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I just got my build up and running yesterday and im just waiting on my second graphics card.
I have a ryzen. Apparently to get around the npt bug in kvm i have to patch and compile the kernel myself. how on earth do I even get started with that?
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>>63711295
That's a meme desu, Debian is fucking shit. I don't even use it on my servers, I use Ubuntu LTS instead. In production it might be a different story but for personal use do not use Debian.

If you do want to ever try another distro, try one not part of the Debian family at all.
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>>63712999
>download kernel source from kernel.org
>cd kernel directory
>download patch
>$ patch -pnum filename.patch where num is appropriate strip value, this should be indicated wherever you download the patch from
>$ make && make modules && make install && make modules_install

ezpz senpai
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>>63712936

Citrix Receiver
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>>63712945
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>got a new laptop
>debian with xfce is just way too fast
>hmm maybe gnome will be tolerable now
>still is buggy and uses all my CPU at times

what in the world, how do they do it... it also reminds me of Windows, I had to blacklist bunch of useless shit like tracker-miner and evolution
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>>63713083
So this is provided by your employer? I am using an HP solution, but It doesn't work with all applications.

>>63713128
How can GNOME be this bad, when Canonical uses it for Ubuntu?
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>>63711295
Hello security breach.
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>>63713092
i had a do a good think before realizing why it makes no sense. because picrelated is the original.
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>>63713203
The edit is kind of right though, "Net Neutrality" is sort of a bullshit name to give to the bill in the first place, and all those companies DO want to fuck you.

Without it cable companies will try to as well though, it's a pretty tough call.
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>>63713217
It kind of isn't right at all.
WIthout net neutrality you will be chained to those services -- either through cable-like packages, or through deals like "get unlimited traffic to X service for a small fee".
It only helps Googles and Facebooks, as it stifles competition -- a new service can't get a foot in the door because the consumer can't access it or is incentivized against it.
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>>63713270
Uh, people are arguing that those services (Google, Facebook, Netflix etc) would be throttled/more expensive BECAUSE of an increase in competition (ie. one created by these cable companies that will be unthrottled/cheap).

Granted those alternatives will probably be trash but it's an increase in competition.
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>>63713203
>i had a do good think
dude what
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>>63713329
"i had to think real hard for a minute"

i like having fun with words.
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>>63713292
I don't understand.
Are people arguing that abolishing net neutrality helps competition for services? Am I reading this right? Is it one of those "free market solves everything" republican mentalities?
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>>63713397
Some are. I think both sides of both arguments (censorship and competition) have valid points, it's quite difficult to pick a side. I'm just not investing myself heavily into either and hoping whatever happens works out personally.
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I'm about to lose my shit with this firefox file picker. The built in one is hot garbage. Setting about:config to use my default thunar somehow opens a minimal version of thunar with teeny tiny thumbnails I can't see and only shows a bigger thumbnail for the one file currently highlighted. No options to increase icon size which is all I need.
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>>63713418
Forgot image, does anyone else get this?
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>>63713439
Everyone does, it's the default GTK file picker.
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>>63713418
It has nothing to do with Thunar, see >>63713527

Either install a patched version of gtk file picker or install the kde file picker (dependencies lol).
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>>63713418
>>63713439
Yes we're all well aware of that, and this is still a big embarrassment for us. Apparently if you use kde though the filepicker has nice thumbnails for some reason
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I'm trying to copy this mongolian picture plate, it gives me scramble errors for Christmas. I have libdvdcss installed and the drive region set. Should I give up and do it on Windows?

>>63713418
It's been bad for years. Let's fork Firefox and make it great again! I'll start on the logo...
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>>63713654
>Apparently if you use kde though the filepicker has nice thumbnails for some reason
Because KDE is actually pretty good it's just bloated as fuck and dependency hell. I'd love to have JUST the KDE file picker.
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>>63710808
unironically install gentoo
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>>63713662
youre a fuckin idiot bud, those gashes in the front have surely ruined the disk
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What is the go-to noscript thing these days for chromium?

Now that Firefox and chromium are basically the same I may as well go with the faster one.
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>>63713741
idiot or not, the disc surface looks fine
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>>63713753
uMatrix, use it with uBlock Origin.
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Trying to install manjaro and choosing any of the proprietary drivers on my optimus gpu soon leads to a black screen that doesn't recover. I'm using discreet graphics only in my bios settings and the nouveau driver works fine as expected. Should I attempt to just install the nvidia driver now (post-install) and replace it with the nouveau driver or is there something more elementary that I'm overlooking here?
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>>63714216
Optimus is a shitfest on Linux, but doable. Just get it installed to start, then read this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus

As I understand Bumblebee is the best solution atm: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bumblebee but play around with things and see what works & what doesn't, where you get the best performance, etc
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I renamed my workspaces in i3, but when I start i3 it defaults to a workspace called "1" (that I don't have a bind for). How do I make it start on a different workspace?
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>>63714280
That's odd, it shouldn't do that. It should default to the first workspace listed.

Here's all the lines I use for workspaces in my config, https://0bin.net/paste/9zSzd6hb34GL4rTE#65YM7gZZgVuVjbam1AMyMemrtybwd6PDQlSUVJ3ihL3

Perhaps it works for me because I prefix my workspaces with numbers (but strip them in the bar so I just have the symbols)?
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>only 14.04 and bellow has working ati drivers for my card
So what am I supposed to do, I guess switching to windows since even fucking flux doesn't want to work properly anymore.
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>>63710154
>reddit picture
The absolute state of /fglt/ LUL
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looking for help with a video playback issue with Mint + nvidia drivers. Once or twice a day my video will freeze, while audio continues. happens with firefox/vlc/mpv, etc. there's never a crash though, i simply have to restart the program in question so can't find any error logs.

any ideas where the problem might be? feel free to mock my choice of distro/graphics card provider.
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>>63713619
>>63713418
I'm having the same problem with the original guy and after some googling I found the patch by ahodesuka and dudemanguy911 called gtk2-filechooser-icon-view.patch on github.
How do you install the patch, though? And will it break something?
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>>63715645
forgot to add: i couldn't post the link because 4chan think it's a spam so I just described it.
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In Bash, how would I get a specific part of text in a line? Which program would I use, like awk, cut or is there a built-in? I am trying not to use Python to avoid the "overhead". In Python I'd just use a regex on the string and save it to a variable.
Is there an easy way to do this with Bash that doesn't involve learning a completely new programming language (awk for example)? That's what I hate about Bash programming, because you're not really using Bash, but other tiny programs.

Example line:
SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad                  id=11    [slave  pointer  (2)]


If I want the id, how could I achieve that?
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>>63715645
If you're on Arch you could install the aur package gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view
Otherwise you'll have to grab the source and the patch then merge it using the patch command.

By the way, it's 'better' but it's not what you want, still disappointingly bad.
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On Xubuntu, the option the disable the trackpad while typing doesn't seem to work at all. Is there any other way I can do this?
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>>63715698

That won't work, because Firefox on Arch, and most likely every other distribution, is compiled with GTK3 and that patch is for GTK2's file dialog.
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>>63715688

I came up with this but it feels so bad.
... | cut -f 2 | cut -d "=" -f 2
. I hate shell scripting so much.
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>>63715720
>trackpad
Sorry, touchpad.
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>>63715730
Guess install this aur package instead/as well then? gtk3-patched-filechooser-icon-view

Thanks for that though, maybe that's why I thought it was disappointing. All these months I've been using the gtk2 patch but firefox hasn't used it.
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>>63715741
Piping like that is fun as fuck though. I'd use -d= instead of -d "=" and -f2 instead of -f 2 just because aesthetics though.
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I'm having a problem playing certain videos with omxplayergui on raspbian jessie/ pi3. (The player is set to open fullscreen to resolve another issue). So, some videos will open, but they won't display any onscreen controls (pause, seek time while seeking), and when they end or i quit, it goes to a black screen from which i have to force restart. The overheating icon showed up once on top of that black screen. Below is the info from one of the videos that does it. Any ideas to fix this? Thanks

Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 1.86 GiB
Duration : 29mn 39s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 8 973 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2017-04-30 05:03:29
Tagged date : UTC 2017-04-30 05:03:29
Writing application : TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works 6 Version. 6.1.4.25

Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
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Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 29mn 39s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 8 636 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 49.6 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.139
Stream size : 1.79 GiB (96%)
Writing library : x264 core 144
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=1 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=1 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=tff / minigop=0 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=0 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=8636 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=49600 / vbv_bufsize=49600 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
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>>63715819
Can you explain how to patch it to non-Arch distro again?
Sorry I'm still new to this GNU/linux business.
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>>63715948
I've never actually done a patch myself, but looking at
https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=gtk3-patched-filechooser-icon-view
you probably just want to git clone gtk3, cd into the dir you just cloned, download the patch file there then do patch -Np1 -i gtk3-filechooser-icon-view.patch (it says ../ in the PKGBUILD because the .patch was downloaded into the parent in this case).
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>>63715996
Honestly I still don't understand. I think I'll find out more info about it. But if by any chance, I tried patching it and something went wrong, will it broke the OS?
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>>63717280
No, either it'll fail to build, or it'll build broken and gtk3 will fuck up but everything else should be ok. Don't forget to remove the existing gtk3 package and replace it with your built copy though.

Just do a lot of research before you bother doing this.
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>>63713146

Yup - our IT team set it up. I work for a very large bank so computer and information security is always the top priority. I guess this is what they went with. It uses a 2-factor authentication system connected to my work cell phone as well.

I've never used HP solution, but Citrix provides a .deb installer/file on their website specifically for Debian-based Linux systems to connect.
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my server wouldn't boot past the mint logo after deleting some files it now gets to login screen but wont let me login as my hdd if full what are some directories which will contain junk data so i can delete it
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>>63710154
>reinstall arch for the millionth time over a decade
>follow instructions Ive used a dozen times for years including a fucking week ago
>mfw vmlinuz-linux isnt in /boot
>mfw its fucking nowhere
god fucking damn it how the fuck is this still an issue
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>>63718707
>install Antergos
>just werks
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>>63710813
bump... I'm guessing it has to do with the kbd package, which seems to be conflicting with console-tools?
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>>63718894
pacstrap on the 3rd try after updating the mounted os in arhc-chroot, exiting, updating arch iso keyring, then pacstraping, then archchorooting and re-bootctl isntalling seems to have spawned vmlinuz now.

Im migrating an install so just giving up and walking away isnt an option. I finally ahve it booting right, now x wont start and I have no fucking clue why.
getting real close to just burning it. fucking hell of a day so far
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>>63718951
Well, you gonna post logs or not?
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>>63718981
oh sorry, Im just bitching.
Im doing some retarded bullshit to preserve my current install in a virtual machine. I think its corrupted some shit. its now spitting out errors about files in /usr/lib being truncated. files in /home/* moved to /home/user_profile and then refused to move back. on boot it couldnt find /dev/disk by uuid even though it was 100% accurate. changed it to /dev/sda2 and it still couldnt find that. wiping /boot and doing pacstrap let me boot up and log in under my accounts. now Im fighting x or something. It said some other shit was corrupted when I tried to reinstall plasma. uninstalled xf86-video-intel and tried for just vesa, no luck. gave qxl a go and now its bitching about the truncated files. Im about to look at x logs now
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>>63713662
disney dvd's have drm up the ass
you need something like dvdfab to copy them
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>>63718981
bus error at address
received signal 7

one forum said something about reinstalling nvidia drivers. I used intel on the host, but uninstalled in it the vm clone
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I'm at "Navigate to install.php in your web browser and follow the prompts." on here: github.com/vichan-devel/vichan/
What does this mean?
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>>63719593
Obviously it means open your web browser and go to "http://<your_website>/install.php"
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>>63710813
Try apt searching for some keymaps.
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>>63711145
Ubuntu. It's noob friendly.
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How is manjaro?
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>>63720294
The best. Install it.
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>>63720294
Shit. Install Gentoo.
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>>63720294
Install GuixSD
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>>63715741
Yeah, between the various coreutils, bash, and things like awk, it's become very clear to me why your average person will never bother learning the commandline.

I love learning about linux, but this shit is so needlessly time-consuming and unorganized.
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Is bleachbit a meme?
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Forgive me lads, for I am about to scooby dooby sin. I've been using Slackware for the better half of a year now, but I'm about to install Lubuntu again. Also trying to learn how to get around Gentoo so I can use CloverOS properly, but that won't be for some time. I'm sorry.
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>>63710808
Arch
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>>63721403
Meme
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I just received my new drive, gonna install a linux distribution on it.
What do you recommend me ?
Pic related what I've been using for almost the last 2 years and wanted to change a little.
No debian based distributions, and preferably no rhel distributions.


I know a few of you use gentoo unironically, but what about smgl ?
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>>63721702
>forgetting pic related
>fucking pleb
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>>63721702
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux
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>>63721702
Android
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My problem: no idea how to use a second monitor with manjaro-xfce, as it will detect but not display anything on monitor2.

Monitor1 is Displayport
Monitor2 is DVI>VGA
GPU is AMD Radeon hd 6850

Not sure what to search for, either.
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What are some good related podcasts?
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>>63721702
Gentoo is much better than SMGL. Sourcr Mage asks you if you want to enable or disable every little thing for every package you install. Also Gentoo isn't too hard if you have decen GNU/Linux experience.
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>my windows using friend actually fell for the gentoo meme for his first distro
>ended up deleting his windows install accidentally
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I kinda want to try out a WM but I don't know if it would be too advanced for me or not. What exactly is the difference between using a DE and only a WM besides no desktop icons (I don't use those anyway)? Is there a lot of keyboard shortcuts you need to memorize?
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>>63722588
I hope you're helping him to install Debian.
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>>63722588
Does he browse /g/? How did he find out about the Gentoo meme? Or were you just an asshole and you told him to install it?
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>>63722614
Nope, he insists on continuing with gentoo.
>>63722617
He asked a technical friend for the most customizable distro that was not arch so he told him gentoo.

I already told him to install debian.

He also began the install at 1am
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>>63722643
>He also began the instance at 1am
Jesus christ
Does his technical friend browse /g/?
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>>63722706
I mean, he's not wrong about the choice of gentoo. And no I don't think he browses /g/.
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>>63714414
My workspaces are prefixed with numbers. I actually used the exact same config file on fedora (just switched to arch) and it was fine. Only difference I can think of is that I'm using startx with .xinitrc instead of a display manager.
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OK I'm going to install Debian instead of W7 on my sams np535u4c. I hope radeon drivers there won't burn my house.
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>>63710382
SJWs on any board are having their ip adresses logged and geolocated for RWDS.
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>>63711145
Desktop environment matters more than distro, fag.
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installed xubuntu on a VM using Hyper-V
this happened after restarting
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>>63723577
Your image might be corrupt, did you checksum it? See this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquashfsErrors

Try disabling ACPI and DMA on the kernel command line.
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>>63723686
I disabled dynamic memory and it's running normally now.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/679133/ubuntu-15-04-on-windows-10-hyper-v-hangs-on-1st-reboot
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>>63718707
>still an issue
No anon, you're just retarded.
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>>63723103
I use .xinitrc.
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>>63713662
download a blueray rip.
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Sorry if this is a stupid question but I am very new to linux and just installed my first distro yesterday. I am trying to install a package I got from GitHub and when I enter make inside it's directory I get an error like this

 make -C /lib/modules/4.13.16-302.fc27.x86_64/build M=/home/user/Github/exfat-nofuse modules
make[1]: *** /lib/modules/4.13.16-302.fc27.x86_64/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
make: *** [Makefile:35: all] Error 2


What does this even mean? I tried googling some of the lines and I can't find anything.
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Has anyone Solus Linux?

https://solus-project.com/
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>>63724338
*anyone tried
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Just reinstalled Manjaro. Everything went swimmingly. Then I did a full system upgrade and installed the recommended kernel.

Now it's giving me a 'boot volume has 0 bytes available' message infrequently. My boot volume is 100mb and only 22mb are being used. How do I shut it up?
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>>63724250
First, check your package manager and see if it is avalible, if not consider creating a package for it instead of installing out of system.
Second, did you update the kernel? That path is where the modules for the current kernel would be located, if it cannot find the folder you may have updated the kernel, in which you just need to reboot
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>>63721731
Cannot unsee that fat fuck hidden in the logo.
/g/ what have yuo done?
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>>63724250
Kernel module errors have always, for me, been related to updating the kernel and not rebooting on Arch which causes the modules for the live kernel to be deleted and the unloaded ones unusable.

No idea if this is actually the problem here (but the no such file/dir thing kinda says maybe), but give it a reboot or downgrade the kernel to live and try again.
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>>63713781
Data is on the label side you fucking moron.
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>>63724981
It's sandwiched between 2 layers of polycarbonate on DVD. On cd it's on label side with just a thin layer of varnish to protect it.
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This is probably the best place to post a recent experience with portage, or more like an issue I had with compiling old c++ code last edited in 2009.

I was installing minetest last night, and it required the irrlicht 3D engine. I emerged minetest and did some stuff.

When I decided to check up on the terminal again (how does /fglt/ set up notifications for this?), I discovered that the emake failed. g++ was making a list assignment* ill-formed instead of letting it through. After looking a bit into it, my version of GCC's default c++ standard was 2014 (c++14), and that this kind of list assignment was prohibited in c++0x onwards. Previously, in c++98, it was only a warning and not an error. So the fix was simple: edit the CXX flag for the irrlicht package to make it use c++98 standard.

My question is, how do I edit an ebuild to make sure this doesn't happen to anyone else? Minetest and irrlicht on portage don't seem to have any maintainers anymore.

* it was giving an error on narrowing conversions inside the { } list initializer.
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>>63725363
Had to do this the other day for an ebuild. Just make a local repo: follow these instructions - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Portage/CustomTree#Defining_a_custom_repository - then add your ebuild to it - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Custom_repository
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>>63711031
>>63711045
If they supported the EME being a standard with the w3c, then they are still the enemy, just like Netflix. No company that supports DRM supports a free and open internet.

>inb4 you have a choice with DRM
Too bad its against the law to break DRM, even if its for security purposes. So much for freedom there.
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I cannot get >discord to detect my webcam.

Well, not webcam, I have my DSLR set up with gphoto2 to appear as /dev/video0/
I can get mpv to show the output from the camera, but discord does not see it. Do webcams show up differently?
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>>63725530
It should just werk. Have you tried it in the web client?
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The company I work for keeps having problems caused by Windows being a buggy piece of shit but they refuse to switch to GNU/Linux or BSD for their servers because they're apparently "too difficult to use".
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>>63725546
Nope, doesn't work in the web client. Very very odd.
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>>63725572
Anon, stop. Don't do it
They're probably not going to listen to you, and the moment they do, you will be 100% hated the moment they dont know how to do something
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>>63711468
I did this. And fucked up something so x wouldn't even start. I had no knowledge how to fix it. --> reinstall. I settled on manually running a script upon post boot. partially enabling pipeline.

nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceCompositionPipeline = On }"
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>>63725776
You can do it in xorg's config.
I have this under Section "Screen"
Option "metamodes" "DP-1: 1920x1080_60 +1920+0 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }, DVI-D-0: 1920x1080_60 +0+70 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }, DVI-I-1: 1440x900_60 +3840+340 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }"
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Btw. I would like to share an excellent way of controlling loudness from various sources of sound/music/speech. Making it easier for your ears.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/31580/is-there-a-way-of-leveling-compressing-the-sound-system-wide/44012#44012

sudo apt install swh-plugins
pacmd
>>> load-module module-ladspa-sink sink_name=compressor plugin=sc4m_1916 label=sc4m control=0.1,1.5,50,-30,20,5,24
>>> set-default-sink compressor

enable/disable via pulse audio volume control

Hard compression:
load-module module-ladspa-sink sink_name=compressor plugin=sc4m_1916 label=sc4m control=0.5,1.5,10,-15,10,5,12
Soft compression:
load-module module-ladspa-sink sink_name=compressor plugin=sc4m_1916 label=sc4m control=0.1,1.5,50,-30,20,5,24

I've become totally dependent of this. About time to permanently implement it into a distro.
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>>63725973
This is stupid
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>>63710808
Parabola
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>>63725973
You might wanna check out pulseeffects
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>>63724430
>>63724583
I haven't updated the kernel but I am retard, I got it working. Not sure why that original error message didn't make sense to me at first. All I had to do to fix it was reinstall kernel-debug-modules, kernel-debug-modules-extra, and kernel-modules. I am not sure which package fixed it since I tried them all at once but I think it was just kernel-modules, idk. Thanks for the help.
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>>63726113
>pulseeffects
Looks promising. Thanks anon.
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>>63710808
what needs?
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>>63717280
Did you figure out how to patch it correctly? The PKGBUILD is written for Arch, but the process is almost the same for other distros. However, it's probably better to create a package out it to avoid any issues with your distro's gtk3 package.
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Is there an up to date rtorrent+ rutorrent tutorial that works for Arch?
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>>63727057
rtorrent and rutorrent are kind of outdated, just use the rtorrent-ps 'fork' with its pyrocore assist tools as a replacement (do not install rtorrent-pyro-git from aur).

If you want to go ahead with rtorrent+rutorrent go ahead and don't worry about something being 'out of date'.
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>>63727194
I wasn't aware there was a modern fork. Is there a webui for this? I only see an ncurse ui
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>>63727309
It's not _really_ a fork (it explains that in the github README.md), but it has a bunch of patches that improve the fuck out of vanilla rtorrent.

rtorrent itself IS an ncurses program, rtorrent-ps doesn't change that, it just wildly improves it and makes it viable to use INSTEAD of rutorrent. Of course, since it only replaces rtorrent you can still use rutorrent with it if you wish while using rtorrent-ps as the backend so you get the stability patches.

rutorrent is a buggy piece of shit I can't really bring myself to support, but if you _need_ a webui then you don't really have an alternative. It's not really hard to set up though, you just need a webserver+php and to unzip the latest rutorrent release in its webroot.
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>>63723863
either tell my why its not there or fuck off.
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>>63727364
>tell me why something happened when i did an unstated amount of things that could have caused it
Well gee let me just reach into my magic hat for the answer.

Clearly you fucked up something because installing Arch works just fine.
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>>63727354
I'm familiar that rtorrent is an ncurse program, this is running on a headless server.
Will rutorrent or flood work in conjuunction with this fork?
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>>63727384
Yes it'll work fine, this is just rtorrent with some patches.

Being headless doesn't mean anything, it's no real different checking your rtorrent by sshing in and attaching to tmux/screen than loading a webpage desu. But obviously you gotta do whatever suits you.

If you just want to use it instead of the vanilla rtorrent I think just installing https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/rtorrent-ps/ instead of the repo package will work with no other changes.
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>>63723182
I did it. My laptot is warmer under Debian for some reason. I installed TLP and configured cpufreq like here:
https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling
The CPU is still 55-60C and I'm just browsing 4chan.
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>>63727431
Or install the latest version using the project's build script to /opt using.

mkdir -p ~/src/; cd $_
git clone https://github.com/pyroscope/rtorrent-ps.git
cd rtorrent-ps
export MAKE_OPTS="-j4"
sudo ./build.sh install


(assumes you have the deps)
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>>63727373
clearly you were never taught that if you dont have anything intelligent to say then dont open your mouth.
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>>63727513
Why did you even post in the first place then?
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>>63727516
wanted to talk to people who know what "linux" and "vmlinuz" meant instead of people who thought I was "talking techno bable" so that working on this wasnt so boring.

why did you post in a "friendly" thread if you're gonna be a cunt?
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>>63727594
Linux is a finnish minix emulator, vmlinux is the emulators executable name.
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>>63727594
Also interested in this
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>>63725363
>>63725419
Given that I had this problem, would it be safe to just default to c++98 in my CXXFLAGS? GCC 6.1 was the one that started defaulting to c++14, and it was just released last year so I'm hoping most source code wrote with the old standard in mind.
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I'm trying to get a simple ftp server working with vsftpd , but every time I try to login I just get an error that the login failed. I already tried disabling firewalld but I still couldn't login. My os is Fedora 27.
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>>63728204
make sure "local_enable=YES" is in your vsftpd.conf file.
also just so you know, execute permission needs to be on a folder to view it. Ive seen an issue where an account didn't have execute permission on the folder ftp was pointed at and vsftp instead served / and allowed viewing of all subfolders even to my personal /home directory.
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Is a WM like i3 with polybar really any different to using a simple DE like xfce? Same for terminal emulators, is there actually any point in installing different ones or do they just make it easier to have hackerman green text or whatever?
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>>63728460
the point is the keyboard shortcuts.
the idea is that you can avoid using a mouse as much as possible.
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>>63728687
I still use the mouse in i3 a bit desu, I unironically use the mousewheel to move through workspaces sometimes, or switch window. Not always but sometimes.
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>>63728280
I already have local_enable=YES in the config file. I have tried everything I have found and nothing seems to help, the server just doesn't seem to let me log in.
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>>63729070
systemctl status vsftpd.service
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What's the best DE/WM for small netbooks? Take into account both the small screen and the limited specs. I normally use KDE but I'm pretty sure the machine in question can't handle it.
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>>63729102
Running that gives the following output

● vsftpd.service - Vsftpd ftp daemon
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/vsftpd.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled)
Active: active (running) since Thu 2017-12-07 07:27:23 UTC; 3h 0min ago
Process: 29050 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/vsftpd /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS Main PID: 29051 (vsftpd)
Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
CGroup: /system.slice/vsftpd.service
└─29051 /usr/sbin/vsftpd /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf

Dec 07 07:27:23 Fedora-512mb-ams3-01 systemd[1]: Starting Vsftpd ftp daemon...
Dec 07 07:27:23 Fedora-512mb-ams3-01 systemd[1]: Started Vsftpd ftp daemon.
lines 1-11/11 (END)
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>>63711030
You have a driver issue. Are you on a desktop with dedicated graphics?
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i use void btw
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>>63710154
why is everyone complaining about systemd? what is so bad about it?
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>>63729632
People complain it does more than it should, but it's fine really.
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>>63729649
but i guess there are some reasons for their complains. what are the reasons not to use it?
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>>63729668
People are just upset it's doing a lot of things that used to be done by small programs instead.
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>>63729677
ok i think they are probably just autists
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>>63729693
Yep.

There's definitely been some 'issues' with systemd before, but all software has bugs, the shit it replaced sure had its share before.
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>>63729711
but damn, i already fell for the systemd-free void linux. I mean it is ok but i think i now might switch back to arch linux
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>>63729724
If your shit is working you certainly don't need to switch _into_ systemd, but I don't personally have anything against using it. Arch is good though.
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man ffmpeg is such an amazing program it can do everything
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>>63729632
poettering pls
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Can you hide comments in Okular or FoxitReader?

I have a lot of them, but I also make screenshots a lot and don't want comments to show in them. Deleting the comments every time I want to screenshot is very cumbersome.
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>>63729925
>weebs against systemd
systemd it is.
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I went balls deep and installed Linux over everything. Good bye Windows, I'll reinstall you when I get new hardware that is compatible with my VR headset, unless there will be Linux support for Oculus Rift and Oculus Touch. I might just dual boot. One hard drive will have Linux while the other will have Windus.
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>>63729848
what can it do?
tell me
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>>63729346
well according to that vfstp is running and you said your firewall is turned off. have you restarted the computer since disableing the firewall? the iptables rules might still bein affect. make sure vfstp is enabled so on reboot it will still be running.

are you doing this from within the same network or are you tryingto do it though the wan?
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>>63729346
also I see it says that login failed. this wouldnt be a firewal issue.
try checking for a stuck shift key or caps key. type the user naem and password real slow and make sure its ebing entered right
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what's the best 64bit linux distribution for 32bit wine gaming?
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>>63729632
because they are masochists and dont want to enjoy the /comfy/ that is stystemcll enable/start
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>>63730725
gentoo
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>>63730725
It's all the same shit nigga.
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>>63730735
winehq doesn't pack for gentoo
>>63730762
apparently not i'm behind 7 nvidia drivers
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>>63730770
>apparently not i'm behind 7 nvidia drivers
Nothing is technically stopping you grabbing the latest ones no matter your distro. Also 7 nvidia releases isn't long enough to really matter. If they're from this year they're probably fine, even from last year. It's not like AAA games really run on Linux and most of the updates nvidia drivers get are targeted optimizations for new releases.
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>>63730787
there is a problem between 'symlinks' between proprietary nvidia drivers and libgl.so or opengl32 in ubuntu when using a 32bit prefix to run such a game
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>>63730824
Hm, well I don't know how to fix it, but I guarantee there's a bandaid, it probably would be easier to just use a different distro if you insisted on using the latest drivers.

To answer your original question technically Ubuntu probably is because its the normie distro and everything targets it, but obviously anything can run on anything if you put in the work.
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>>63730690
I'm doing this over wan, the server is a vps. I haven't rebooted the system so I will try that when I have time.
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>>63710808
Funtoo, Gentoo, Source Mage, Linux From Scratch
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I'm having an issue with minecraft on fedora, it works fine for between 10 and 30 minutes then everything turns multi colored don't have a screenshot because it doesn't just fuck minecraft it messes up my entire system it does that common glitch on windows where theres kinda multiple windows of one window if that makes sense when you drag it about it appears theres hundreds of them -- any help is appreciated
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>>63732504
what
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>>63732527
I'm bad at english, which part is tripping you up?
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>>63710808
Getgle OS
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>>63710154
> Linux 4.14.4
> not a single ATH9K config entry mentioned in the menuconfig
> added them manually into the .config file
> ath9k is still not being built
Ok, what the actual fuck is going on?
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>3 sticks of ram
>1 is different model from the other 2
>1 is given to a linux host and the other 2 are given to a windows vm
would this prevent me from overclocking the 2 given to windows?
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>>63732738
Android?
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>>63732621
Never mind, I just forgot to enable CONFIG_MAC80211
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>>63732802
what?
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>>63732823
Your Linux host
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>>63732839
no why would i have android on a desktop
i havent actually decided on the distro to use
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How can I make my iptables persistent? I'm using Debian testing and it's missing the iptables-persistent package. Currently I have a simple script setting up iptables. This solution feels like a hack though.
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>>63732870
Debian is a fine distro.
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>>63732880
are you sure you read this article
https://wiki.debian.org/iptables
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>>63710154
is xubuntu a good distro?
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Is it save to update Linux kernel? My update manager has a new kernel waiting to be updated, but the color is red and the checkbox isn't automatically checked.
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>>63733024
i take it you're on mint?
chances are it's safe to update it, just select the old kernel to boot if it fails to (which i'm sure it won't)
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>>63732909

Thanks Anon, I got it working. I was thinking i was supposed to use iptables-persistent.
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>>63733045
I see.
Yeah, I am on mint. Also, what will be changed if I update kernel? Or is it those things that you can't see in GUI?
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>>63733158
probably nothing noticable will be changed, perhaps some new drivers or security patches
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>>63732895
Unless you need proprietary hardware to work without fucking around for hours - especially wifi cards.
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>>63731867
idk then, its fucked. just a thought, you arnt ftpingto your vps but instead the server your vps is running on?
try making a new account and see if that will work
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>>63733024
do you have a nvidia card ?
the proprietary nvidia driver is build against the kernel version you are using.
Just update the driver too and everything should be fine.
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>>63733158
you wont notice
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>>63729344
Anyone?
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What is the lightest distro I can use on my T42?
For some weird reason modern loonix just don't want to be installed on this hardware
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>>63733689
lubuntu i guess
>>63733667
lxde
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>>63733717
>lubuntu
Nope, lubuntu, xubuntu, mind, manjaro, all that shit just don't want to be installed on this hardware, I can't even boot the installer
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>>63733736
what does it do?
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>>63729344
>>63733667

i3wm
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>>63733774
Just freeze after I select boot to install
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>>63711382
>>63711427
>>63711475
Good answers
I now I understand what I like so much about Debian
I want complete control and full understanding and Debian provides that.
Debian also has the stability, you set it once and it keeps working this way forever, no update will unexpectedly break the behaviour.

Arch is the anti-Debian.
A tinkering heavy, always moving distro that is hard if not impossible to control. You just accept that things can change at any time and as a result you never have or want to have full understanding or control.
Not my thing.

Also this proves that Debian is the most autistic and at the same time best distro there is.
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>>63733911
>time and as a result you never have or want to have full understanding or control.
Ill have to disagree. the only thing thats chnaged on my computer in years is the de. everything can change at someone elses whim, look at ubuntu, they just abandon their own de. anything that uses kde will either have to accept kdes change or never update or have to fork it.
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>>63711580
>>63712260
Also the Debian packaging system makes total sense when you start applying your own patches. You download the source apply your patched, rebuild and you changes get integrated fully to the rest of the system. Debian provides full control and legendary stability.

And unlike derivatives like Ubuntu or Mint Debian let's you select exactly the packages you want. No policy is enforced on you, you design your own policy.
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>>63713270
This
Those net neutrality scammers got exposed as the corporate shills they are
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>>63733024
Usually yes. Kernel upgrades on any sane distro leave the old kernel and its headers etc. intact so if anything goes wrong you can just reset and select it from the grub menu.
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Here's a neat little script I made for checking network connection status without any bloaty programs:
#!/bin/bash
i=0
while sleep 0.5; do
ping -c1 8.8.8.8 > /dev/null 2>&1
if [[ $? -eq 0 ]]; then
echo -e "Network is up after $i attempts"
exit 0
fi
((i++))
echo -ne "Network is down (Attempt $i)\r"
done
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>>63734401
is that an endless loop?
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>>63734401
Here's a revised version thanks to shellcheck (https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck)
#!/bin/bash
i=0
while sleep 0.5; do
if ping -c1 8.8.8.8 > /dev/null 2>&1; then
echo -e "Network is up after $i attempts"
exit 0
fi
((i++))
echo -ne "Network is down (Attempt $i)\r"
done


>>63734450
No, if it successfully pings 8.8.8.8 it will exit with status 0
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>>63734481
>it will exit
oh ok, the while statement confused me. (still cant read shell scripts). I was slightly concerned that someone would endlessly ping google(I've seen stuff like this unironically done before)
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>>63734481
>>63734501
I probably wouldn't have realized this without shellcheck, but here's another revised version
#!/bin/bash
i=0
until ping -c1 8.8.8.8 > /dev/null 2>&1; do
((i++))
echo -ne "Netowkr is down (Attempt $i)\r"
sleep 0.5
done
echo "Network is up after $i attempts"

Bash is sexy as fuck
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>>63710154
Alright so I convinced my friend to install GAHNOO slash LOONIX as he fucked his entire wireless drivers with one action on botnetdows. Went newfag friendly with Debian and gnome (he is not a complete newfag). After 50 days he is switching back to windows. The main problems are:
1. Lack of support for software and (((games)))
2. Stuff that isn't supposed to work (e.g playing WOW over wine) works but with problems
3. "everything breaks and every time I boot its just 'i wonder what problem i am going to get'"
4. "I just want it to work"
If I take (((games))) out of the equation and say that there are effective libre alternatives for everything how would I go about re-exposing him to the 'libre light' after he gets pissed off with windows enough to switch back to GNU/Linux? Maybe a distro that is not complete crap?
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>>63734751
this is a fucking awful post
stop forcing stupid memes into your explainations and just ask what you need
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what should I know switching from fedora to ubuntu?
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>>63734831
nothing
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is there some sort of guide on how to rice/theme ubuntu?

I'm too afraid to leave ubuntu as a distro but I want to make it look cool
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>>63734540
>Netowkr
Better make version 4 lol
Seriously though, I think I'll add this to my ~/bin
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>>63734780
After careful review of my post I see it is in perfect working order.
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>>63734851
Version 4 (LESS BYTES BUT SPAMMY AF)
until ping -c1 8.8.8.8 >/dev/null 2>&1;do ((a++));printf "False $a\r";done;echo "True $a"

needs less kode
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>>63734871
no it's not
you're obscuring your point with forced memes
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>>63734841
First please summarize in a few sentences why do you think Ubuntu is a special snowflake which needs unique ricing options and not a generic GNU/Linux distro running a generic wm/de which should accept any ricing option that would work anywhere.
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>>63734881
75 BYTES VERSION
until ping -c1 8.8.8.8>/dev/null 2>&1;do printf "False\r";done;echo "True"

HOW LOW CAN WE GO
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>>63734886
Let me make it simplier then:
how to convert potential gnufag to a gnufag?
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>>63734965
You don't, I've tried countless times and every time they somehow fuck it up and go back to what they know because it's easier. What "potential gnufags" don't realize is, once you get past the steep learning curve, everything becomes 10x easier than the equivalent on Wangblows, and by that point they probably enjoy getting hard-to-fix problems because there will be a real challenge for once.
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>>63734965
When it comes to games I personally just say to let it go. If they need games then don't push them, or just suggest that they try out GNU/Linux via an extra machine or by dual boot.
Talking a gamer into using it and ditching windows can just end up creating haters. I'm convinced that any and all worthwhile computer enthusiasts/programmers who aren't just tech hipsters, will wind up using GNU/Linux eventually anyway to some degree because it really does have a lot of very attractive qualities to those people.

No point lying about it. Gaming still kinda sucks on GNU/Linux. I'd rather inform people about it and just let them migrate at their own pace than to rush things and turn people off.
Maybe in a not too distant future we'll actually be able to recommend GNU/Linux with confidence to users of all backgrounds, including gamers. But that day is not today.
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>>63734965
>>63735175
Also one other thing. I've always been of the mindset that there is really nothing at all wrong with hipocrisy. People can use windows and still like and support progress on GNU/Linux. Of course they'd help more by switching, but it's still better than nothing, and definitely better than turning them off from the whole thing altogether.
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What's the best tutorial on dual booting linux and wangblows?
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>>63734926
I wonder what happens when we get brainfuck involved
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>>63735287
step 1: dont
step 2: goto 1
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>>63735287
>create partitions from Live linux CD/USB for Windows and Linux
THEN
>install Windows to said partition
>install linux from LiveCD/USB
also this >>63735310

>>63735292
I think the next step is to go straight to ASM
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>>63735331
>I think the next step is to go straight to ASM
think brainfuck might be shorter
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>>63735373
Yeah but the ASM for it won't be. Brainfuck is Haskell which is a mix of C, C-- and ASM. It's almost as high-level as JavaScript in that regard.
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>>63734926
You can use the bash shortcut &>/dev/null and you can remove the quotes.
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>>63735331
Linux is a kernel.
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New thread reeee
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>>63735403
FOURTY FOUR BYTES VERSION
until ping -c1 8.8.8.8&>/dev/null;do :;done


>>63735425
And you're a CIA nigger :^)
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Shitty blog post ahead:
fucking proprietary jews ruining my day again, I got a older workstation machine with a old shitty low-end Quadro FX 370, and on Debian with proprietary drivers from Jewvidia X crashes or some other weird shit happens everytime my machine wants to lock itself or if I myself click "lock screen"
I get a black screen with a blinking cursor and if I try to return to a tty it blinks but throws me back to the blank screen with a blinking cursor, I have to spam CTRL + ALT + F7 for a while and then the whole screen goes black and I finally can get to a tty with CTRL + ALT + F1 and I am finally able to kill xorg/lightdm and restart it to get back to my desktop again
Never had issues like this with various AMD cards with opensource drivers and integrated intel graphics. How come proprietary shit always have issues?
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>>63735396
yea I get that, Im just saying the file size might be shorter than asm. maybe not bf, maybe something else. idk.
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>>63735714
>>63735714
>>63735714
lesbian edition
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>>63735704
>not creating your own binary functions manually to test if your network connection is working
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>>63734401
Can't you just click on wifi icon?




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