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Pre-fosdem edition

This upgrade brings new hardware support, better theming capabilities, software(new winapi) support ,new filesystem fixes and support), quick launcher fixes also a lot of bug fixes.

User-friendly changelog: http://reactos.org/project-news/reactos-047-released

Detailed changelog: https://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16670&sid=c0bbb6b34671051d53ec409f457b94e1
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>>63715931
Great. I'll wait around 10 years from now. I guess by that time it'll be a great clean OS.
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>>63716144
Well aren't you fucking chipper.
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>>63716144
Sigh... fpbp.
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>>63715931
Good. A few more years and it might be better than winXP. As long as it's stable outside a VM it's a win.
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So how does it compare to windows 98, windowsXP, and windows 7 respectively right now?
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>>63715931
>try live cd version on laptop
>bluescreen
>try bootable version in vmware
>install vmware tools
>bluescreen on boot
maybe next version
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>>63716144
The point of ReactOS is not to become a full desktop OS, but to develop useful tools for running Windows programs in WINE or other emulators. It will eventually be a usable OS but since Windows is free to torrent that's not a big deal.
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I applaud for the effort of this and I don't mind giving it a test on a virtual machine, but I would look forward at ReactOS if it let me play games supported until DirectX 11.
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Reactos is real windows from remnants of open source vax or windows nt
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>>63715931
They only *now* moved to github?
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>>63716929
tried it (virtualbox though) and got same result
>irql_not_less_or_equal
event he nightly build results in the same
havent seen that screen on a decade or so, so im not sure on what it might be (maybe some other time ill debug it)
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>>63717164
>but since Windows is free to torrent
Not even that. Windows 10 is basically free to download and install.
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>The oldest bug fixed was CORE-2366 . "Rapps: modify link does not work". Reported 10 years ago.
the absolute state of freetards
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>>63717592
>it took Microsoft 10 years to even discover a bug
The absolute state of proprietarycucks
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>>63717674
fuck me currysoft was incompetent even when Billy was running the company
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>>63717560
no it's not
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Imho it's a big bump from 0.4.6. I almost got a XY chart created in libreoffice. (it was there, but wrongly sized).

One filter design software package seemed to work perfectly, one plc programming tool seems to have an event loop when a sub window got maximized (mostly fail), sumatra pdf just worked. The gui seemed to freeze, at times, but I never had to kill the vm.

getting damn close to working for me.
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>>63718585
It is.
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>>63717200
Well, it can play better gayms if you care about those

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljw3qmBk6zs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbsTFBYhLBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii4bircrQtg
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>>63718880
Well, it's nice knowing it can run games at all, but I was thinking on emulating in general and running a few worthwhile PC games on ReactOS. For example, can it handle well running Dolphin and others emulators?
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>>63716144
>>63716510
Well how about you stop being niggers and donate.
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>>63719544
>"Giving em money will make em work faster and smarter... right?"
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>>63719643
Left.
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>>63719568
Actually, yes
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>still no AC97 driver
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>>63719659
Nope, bug reporting is probably more helpful
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y tho
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>>63719711
What did you do?
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>>63719720
Installed opera 12 and opened google
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I saw a vid of it running NFS Carbon, how does it do it? do they have their own implementation of directx? do they use wine? if they use wine then why even bother when you can just.... use wine in linux...
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>>63719801
They use wine directX to openGL
I have no idea which GPUs have usable drivers for reactos though
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>>63719734
Maybe try another browser?
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>>63719801
Yeah it uses components of wine. But they have you install windows GPU drivers, I don't know exactly how that works.
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Oh look
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>>63719851
shame about the crappy icons
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>>63719801
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Ehm, now 1 with PureOS? Librem soon.
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ReactOS is a server OS
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>>63719643
win95 theme all day my dude
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>>63719734
it couldn't handle googles javascript bitcoin miner :^)
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>>63719918
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>>63715931
>"Hey, guys!Why don't we try a barely functional linux-based OS?"
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>>63719967
>linux-based
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>>63719651
Peasant.
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>firefox installs update to latest XP version
>freezes system
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Virtualbox additions now seem to work
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wish I could contribute
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OpenGL stuff seems to work, not sure if it is done in software or hardware though
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>>63720035
I guess it doesn't handle heavy browsers. Try Midori.
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>>63717674
>>63717699
samefag
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>>63719544
Contributing code is always more valuable than contributing funds for a software project.
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>>63719866
There must be a script that just takes a windows directory and pulls all the ico files for it right?
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>>63720196
No
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>>63720249
>wanting proprietary icons
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>>63717592
>>63717674
>the absolute state of all NT implementations
10 years later I'll make a correction post mentioning compatibility layers
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>>63720269
Install impression eyes
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/Qmb5QoHsJS9z5UWFCznH8NoA7KWvAgTXjnjeMqpP5ByTd7/ImeSetup.exe
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>>63720249
I'm pretty sure they're all in one folder, or at least available online.
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>>63719866
Tango icon scheme was fucking great.
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>>63720290
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>>63720345
Oh shit, I might not have much reason to stay on Native Windows. The only other thing might be Foobar2000.
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sad!
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Now it doesn't werk anymore.
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>>63720369
ReactOS is still unstable and alpha quality

They've just started to become really complete in the last few years
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>>63720385
>at the moment
That's going to be a lot of compatibility if they add the ability to run 16 bit, 32bit, and 64 bit all at once.
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>>63720412
There's a 16 bits version?
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>>63720408
If it can browse the internet, view images, and play audio+video media, I'm pretty much set.
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>>63720412
WINE had working win 3.x support, no idea what's broken here
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>>63720421
16 bit applications.

>>63720424
This is a wild guess but I wonder if it has to do with interop with other applications. I don't remember if WINE has a method of IPC across all bounderies, like if you were to make a pipeline like this
C:\>16bit.exe | 32bit.exe | 64bit.exe > out.txt
but maybe React wants that to be possible, like it is with 32bit <-> 64bit in Windows. If that makes any sense.
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>>63720422
Can't do anything of this without lag, freezes, and crashes
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>>63719643
It's like the good old days of XP ricing.
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>>63717164
>not to become a full desktop OS, but to develop useful tools for running Windows programs in WINE or other emulators
So how is it different from WINE then?
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>>63720478
I remember it being spooky, like unofficial customization could lead to broken shells. I guess it's still kind of like that though. I think I mostly used bblean and didn't mess with it too much.
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>>63719674
1000x this, for any open source project. Much of the reason many people work on open source projects like these to begin with, is because they're interested in the project regardless of monetary incentives.
Money is great when it allows devs to focus full time on a project, but until donations get to that point, they don't necessarily affect much, unless it's to fund the costs of specific tools/hardware/services. So the biggest way to move a project forward until it becomes sustainable is really through bug reports and code contributions.
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I recommend installing donkey.exe in your reactOS, it will greatly improve the experience
https://mega.nz/#!nRJESZbb!IK6xJ7-6qgFR6ZpVm7ocHpR7gLVjl9QJMftpyEGmhyE
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>>63720564
>like unofficial customization
To be fair I remember reading you could put all the themes that exist for XP without patching shit like with UxStyle, because ReactOS already has all those required modifications by default.
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>>63720506
WINE is not an entire OS.
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>>63720506
ReactOS is made to be fully native, as in supporting native Windows drivers.
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>>63720628
That's handy if they're willing to maintain a feature like that.
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>>63720506
ReactOS is a full operating system, like PureDarwin.

>>63717164
There's a reason OpenDarwin was shut down and ReactOS is not a WINE container project even if it shares its DirectX/WinAPI code with WINE.
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How do I activate this shit though?
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>>63719568
>>63719674
>>63720231
To be fair they also need the money. With enough money, they will stop being wageslaves, and will dedicate all their time on developing ReactOS.
That's wouldn't be that hard, considering how the core of the team are basically made of less than 10 people. They just need more sponsors.
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>>63720783
:^)
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>>63720783
As far I know, it has compatibility options. I think it is exactly as the compatibility mode in XP.
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>2017
>no thumbnails in explorer
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>>63720605
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>>63720774
Open darwin is now puredarwin
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>>63719568
>>63719674
>>63720565
Are you all retarded or something?

What any such project needs is more devs.
If there's enough money, you can hire them.
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>>63720783
>>63720854
I'm real curious what happens. They probably just accept the system calls but always return SUCCESS or something.
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who cares, it has nogaems
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>>63721105
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>>63721169
lamp-post on a mountain peak, has tears coming off its nose.jpg
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>>63716144
Were you saying?
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>>63719516
How does it run on less than 95mbs of ram?
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Why would i use ReactOS ? even when it's done why would i use it over something like GNU/Linux?
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>>63720783
kek

what exactly are you guys doing to get it booting on virtualbox without bluescreening? i really dont want to debug that shit if all i have to do is change a controller type or some shit
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>>63721762
Don't use the liveCD
Set OS as XP
Don't enable fancy shit like IO-ACPI
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>>63721698
ReactOS will be perfect for POS systems when they're forced to upgrade from XP in 10 years
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>>63721719
it not being linux is reason enough
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>>63721719
To use some old as shit software that never bothered to update to other platforms. For example, hospitals are full of shitty computers and outdated software, even the most "exclusive" ones.
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>>63720269
> using a propietary VS
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So with this I can get old viruses again and no one will give half a fuck to make an antimalware tool. AIDS machine?
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>>63720774
>ReactOS is a full operating system
>>63717164
>The point of ReactOS is not to become a full desktop OS

MAKE UP YOUR MIND /g/
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>>63722080
The other guy is wrong. The point of ReactOS is to be a full windows XP replacement which would be free of charge.
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>>63721719
It's Windows 2000/XP without botnet and telemetry.
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>>63722164
Well he's certainly right in implying it's doing a terribly shitty job of being one remotely soon.
>>63722213
And most functionality, but you get bugs instead.
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>>63721787
>IO-ACPI
that did the trick, thanks

i gotta find some time this weekend to try and run this bare on a relatively new machine, if the drivers for the eth phy and gpu ogl install and work it will be great
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>>63722235
>remotely soon
The project needs more devs, testers and investors if it's to be out of alpha in less than 10 years.
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>>63716144
henlo
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Making some nice progress, but still pretty buggy. Maybe in 10 years I can replace my linux desktop with it.
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>>63719979
>>63721169
How many of pics like these exist?
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>>63722677
far too many already:
>>>/sci/9340449
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>>63722692
This is why memes were a mistake.
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>>63722692
I thought /sci/ was supposed to be the science board.
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>>63722896
It always had bait threads, but recently retards from /pol/ invaded the board
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>>63722251
And what are the chances of that happening?
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Not sure what to think about this, I know all things Windows are shit, but that's because o Microsoft. Maybe the open source community has better luck.
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>>63719866
>>63720249
https://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Classic95?content=157298
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>>63722914
Depends. Are you willing to donate?
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>>63722926
>but that's because o Microsoft
The NT kernel is god-tier, the problem is that Microsoft filled it with cruft and garbage code that can't remove because compatibility reasons.
The real problem is once all the original developers leave, nobody will know how the internal of Windows work. There was going to be a point when the ReactOS devs will came with a better, clean and documented OS than whatever Microsoft has at this point.
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>>63719711
Just like Windows!
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>>63723345
>once all the original developers leave, nobody will know how the internal of Windows work
Already happened years ago, which is why anything since Win7 has been an UI change or new additions like "metro"
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>>63723345
> There was going to be a point when the ReactOS devs will came with a better, clean and documented OS than whatever Microsoft has at this point.
I'm sure that if you leave a computer generating random binary code for 20 years it will eventually make a pattern of an OS better than windows.
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>>63723345
>The NT kernel is god-tier
but why
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>>63716144
Hopefully windows can get its shit together for you in that time
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>>63720100
Feels like 2005, love it
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>>63723345
NT kernel is actually much worse than Unix and Linux kernel, especially with hardware configurations.
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>>63718880
reactos shares a lot of code with WINE, so theoretically it can run most of the software that the latter supports.
My guess is that the main issue are the drivers and the kernel
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>>63724062
You'll be able to install windows drivers onto ReactOS once they get to windows 7/8/10 compatibility. It should happen in about 30-50 years.
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>>63719851
>>63719877
>>63719914
Gross. What about the Windows Embedded 2009 theme?
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>>63724432
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>>63717164
>torrent windows
>doesn't realize all windows torrents come with added backdoors.
>awesome advice anon; its a great way to have your bandwidth be used in DDoS attacks.
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>>63724700
>not checking hashes
deserved desu
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>>63724732
Looks nice and workable. Are you just testing it or do you plan to switch to React OS?
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>>63724732
ReactOS is fucking awesome mate; I'm currently backing up all my Ubuntu machines and switching.
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did they fix the god awful windows font rendering
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>>63724742
Basic shit like the audio driver doesn't work at all - and this is just virtualbox, not real hardware
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>>63715931
React OS can't run on real modern machines properly. That is the problem number one.
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>>63724749
The problem isn't really the font rendering, but that they can't/don't deliver the required fonts
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>>63724713
>trusts generic "cracked by X" hash
>trusts generic "activated by X" hash

no you fucking tard; md5 hashes wont keep you safe. it will only allow you to believe your machine isn't sitting on a irc botnet list somewhere in the Ukraine or china.
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>>63724732
Seems legit. But I will not install it on my PC
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>>63724777
>SHA1 hashes aren't safe
LLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL
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>>63724039
Why we cant use Linux-kernel with Windows API?
Oh, I have rust invented WINE.
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>>63724803
>tard is on a pirated version of windows.

you know a 12 year old can bind some shit bot he downloaded off github and make a disc image and upload it right? there's millions of how to videos on youtube on how to set one up and your sitting here telling me your trusting anything on a torrent site. lol ok.
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>>63724865
>check msdn iso SHA1
>check ISO file SHA1
>both the same
>but muh viruses hurr durr
shut the fuck up brainlet
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MSI installer still looks weird
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>>63724876
lol you sure about that?
intercept your network traffic; you'll be bound to notice a connection that doesn't match any MS services.

what a fucking retard you must be to be using an OS you got off a torrent site.
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>>63724753
>>63724788
I have an old Pentium PC laying around. I could try to install ReactOS for the lulz, but the problem is that USB booting is almost experimental and if I couldn't make a bootable USB, I'm too lazy to burn a ISO.
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>>63724803
they're literally not https://shattered.io/
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>>63724816
English please?
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>>63724876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKWuzklXUk0

^this anon trying to explain how super duper safe it is to downloading windows shit off torrent sites.

you sound super duper smart anon.
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>>63724931
>not knowing what SHA1 is
Don't you have some games to play?
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>>63724816
>Oh, I have rust invented WINE
Of course 'I have just invented'
>>63724928
Why we can't put WindowsAPI on new core (Linux for example)?
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>>63724931
>that reddit spacing
>trying to trick people with video link
back to r*ddit brainlet
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>>63724959
Because why the fuck would anyone do that? Thats some retarded shit lmao
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>>63724777
You fucking moron, use the hashes provided by MICROSOFT.
Go to MSDN and look that shit up
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>>63725021
>Because why the fuck would anyone do that?
More stable core, with kernel panics instead of BSODs.
>Thats some retarded shit lmao
The same people thought about Windows NT back in the day, when Microsoft ported API from DOS to new core.
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>>63724959
>>63725120
If any they would use a non-GPL kernel, like some BSD or MINIX.
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>>63724816
>>63724959
>>63725120
>>63725593
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longene
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>>63725667
>last update: January 16, 2014
>official website doesn't even work anymore
Yeah, nah.
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>>63720770
a feature like what? *not* signing themes with a microsoft signature?
that's what it was, XP themes were digitally signed, so only microsoft ones could be used
fuck knows why there was such a restriction in the first place, but reactos couldn't implement it if they wanted to, since that key isn't public
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FreeBSD emulating Linux emulating Windows emulating ReactOS emulating Wii U emulating Wii emulating GameCube emulating N64 emulating SNES when?
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>>63725931
SNES emulating NES...
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>>63719866
>shitting on tango
bro, i used to use tango on actual XP before i even knew about reactos
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>>63720136
if your cpu usage pins at 100% on simple, non-vsync'd graphics, it's probably software
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>>63720412
wine can do it, and reactos shares a lot of code with with wine (as you'd imagine)
so it'll probably happen
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>>63720506
wine just implements the windows userspace, and translates that to another OS's system calls
reactos implements windows in it's entirety, right down to an NT-compatible kernel. it's userspace borrows heavily from wine (why do the same work twice?), but the rest is their own
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>>63725937
Can SNES even do that?
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>>63718844
libre
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>>63715931
can it run my steam library?
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>>63720813
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand ReactOS. The enginerring is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the code will go over a typical programer's head. There’s also ReactOS’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into its UI- his personal philosophy draws heavily from windows arcetecture, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of this OS, to realise that they’re not just complex- they say something deep aboutLIFE. As a consequence people who dislike ReactOS trulyAREidiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the ReactOS existential catchphrase “,ReactOS looks like Windows and nowadays is able to run many Windows applications." which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as ReactOS’s genius wit unfolds itself on their moniter screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a ReactOS tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid
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>>63724777
you don't understand, microsoft provides lists of SHA1 checksums for all their ISO's
you can verify any iso you download is correct and unmodified by calculating it's hash and comparing it to the one listed on microsoft's website
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>>63726066
probably not, the snes doesn't have a particularly fast cpu
the lowest end NES emulator i've seen/used is one for the playstation
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>>63726657
No, not at all. ReactOS is like Windows XP, so it will probably not work with everything. Also, if I recall it is very unstable. I tried to use it in Virtual Box and it was very crash happy. Drivers are abysmal. Wait until it leaves alpha.
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All this time I thought ReactOS was a facebook meme machine response to chromeos running all applications through a shitty proprietary browser implementation and react native.
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>>63726657
Skyrim runs, I think.
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>>63727376
Thats it?
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>>63727402
Pretty much. CS:GO might run since the codebase is so old, idk if anyone's tried it though.
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>>63725108
>>63726785
You're retarded.
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>>63715931
this is a wasted effort
people don't use *nix just because windows is proprietary
they use *nix because windows is inferior in every conceivable way and aspect
in order to run windows software, you don't need more than a compatibility layer
they should be contributing to wine or something instead
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>>63721818
if anything theyll just switch to os2/warp
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>>63715931
Can I install drivers to my printer yet?
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>>63727981
>they should be contributing to wine or something instead
this.
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>>63728880
They already do.
Why do you think WINE is so good?
https://www.reactos.org/wiki/WINE
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>>63717674
what site is that btw?
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>>63729045
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_hid_the_facts
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>>63727981
>they should be contributing to wine or something instead
they do, all the applicable userspace code is shared with wine
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>>63726785
Hash collisions exist.

>>63727981
Let me know when Linux gets device drivers for manufacturer-abandoned near-custom industrial peripherals.
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>>63727981
>*nix
>superior to anything
Computer illiterate tryhard detected
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>>63724927
This is a very specific attack that doesn't have the far-reaching implications that you think it does
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>>63724927
>" This attack required over 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 SHA1 computations. This took the equivalent processing power as 6,500 years of single-CPU computations and 110 years of single-GPU computations. "
not to mention there were limits in what they could modify to make two valid files
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>>63726858
Why did you think that?
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>>63719660
why doesn't Linux have a device manager like this?
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>>63717343
It's almost as though they are a massive project with a massive code base, millions of automated tests and processes integrated into the older system.
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>>63724487
Nice. I always liked the Windows Embedded theme the most. Alongside the Zune theme.
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>>63719851
>>63719877
>>63719914
>>63720035
>>63720100
>>63720136
>>63720161
>>63720235
>>63720269
>>63720345
>>63720385
>>63724487
What about the Royale Noir theme?
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>>63717674
>even the text "a"
>a bug that can be trivially triggered made its way through 13 years of NT
goddamnit microsoft
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What is it that is so "superior" about the NT kernel that people keep saying?
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>>63733397
It's said to be more stable than 9x. The biggest disadvantage that NT has over 9x is that it can't format a FAT32 partition larger than 32GB.
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>>63727981
Because Wine can run all office programs AND DX9 games. Even DX10 is getting better. Reactos is just trying to replace Windows for people who prefer Windows.
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>>63724087
>It should happen in about 30-50 years.
laughed.
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>>63733397
Nothing. It's less stable and has worse implemented hardware management.
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>>63733397
Used in every MS operating system after 98/ME. Running your xbox or PC. What's so superior about an operating system developed for 1970's mainframes? One's more successful for a reason.
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>>63729457
>Bush_hid_the_facts
kek
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>>63717164
Reminder that wine is not an emulator.
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>>63716929
linux doesn't even have bluescreen
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>>63726046
why would anyone want to recreate that monstrosity
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>>63734604
Who mentioned Linux?
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>>63719544
If I won the lottery I would donate like 5000$.
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>>63733397

A guy named Dave Cutler was brought into MS to lead NT development. He is/was a seriously hardcore dude. He came from Digital where he worked on VMS. Supposedly some of the internal ideas within NT are very VMS like.
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>>63734604
Yeah, it has kernel panics, instead.
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>no multicore
>no 64-bit

ded os
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>>63734269
>One's more """successful""" for a reason.
yeah, because one was more popular. Why do people keep pretending marketing and cargo culting don't exist?




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