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>Assemble a part list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and _monitor_ suggestions; click on the blue title to see notes
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g
>How to install Win7 on Ryzen
https://pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
>Things you should know before building a workstation
https://www.pugetsystems.com/

If you want help:
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs:
>NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE
>G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM)
>R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs
>R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use

RAM:
>Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
>Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports

Graphics cards:
>Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor
>Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon)
1080p
>GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little
>GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
1440p
>GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced
>GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
2160p (4K)
>GTX 1080Ti

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor

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>>63725586
Anyone
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>>63725663
I'd take the ASUS card personally, I have a 480 from them that I really like. I got a MSI board and if their graphics cards are anything like their motherboards, it's hit or miss.
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why is thr rx 470 better than a rx 560. I klnow about the speccs I just don't understand the names.
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>>63725663
Should I?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178993
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Stop recommending Ryzens to people for gaming.
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>>63725749
Why?
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>>63725749
At 60hz, it really doesn't matter.
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>>63725625
cringe pic
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>>63725759
Because they're not gaming CPUs.

95% of games get better benchmarks from Intel CPUs because they benefit more from single core performance & IPC.

The only time you should ever buy a CPU for games is if you're playing multicore intensive DX12/Vulcan games like Civ 6 and Ashes of Singularity. Maybe it'll change in the future, but it won't be any time soon.
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could you guys please rate my build, first timer here so sorry if its not as polished, i've been working hard on this build for the past year.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/spbZkT
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>>63725749
Good goy
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>>63725762
At 60Hz, you're better off buying an old Intel CPU for less money and getting better performance for 95% of games from the past 10 years.
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>>63725787
Also bear in mind the ram I have now was $120 yesterday, but now changed prices again... So just assume my ram is $120 dolalrs
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>>63725792
Well whatever works for you, I guess. I don't like the idea of putting money into old hardware though. My Ryzen 1200 just werks for me in CSGO and that's all I play.
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>>63725625
What 1050/ti is the best and what can you play with one?
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if I'm working on a grounded anti-static mat (like squatting barefooted on it) do I need a static bracelet?
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>>63725876
No.
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>>63725465
reposting for opinions plszss friends, lot o moneeee
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>>63725749
So 250 fps not enough for gaming ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxes_Z0BD70&feature=youtu.be&t=3m34s

god stop being intel shill
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>>63725723
Microcenter sells 2tb refurbs for $40
Get two of those instead
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About to set up my build, how much do I realistically need to worry about static?
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>>63726017
No. This isn't the 90s anymore. You can build it on carpet so long as you aren't actively generating static, it won't be an issue. Heck, I think the ESD protection in most hardware nowadays can handle a discharge or two.
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>>63725927
Hey idiot, anything can be 250fps with the right setting, GPU & CPU.
What matters is that Intel CPUs will always bench higher than Ryzens. You can't accept this because for you it would be like conceding defeat.
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>>63726037
>gates have become smaller and so have their voltage swings
>static is NBD
I hope you're trolling this poor soul
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>>63726037
So as long as I touch some metal to ground myself every so often I should be perfectly fine?
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>>63726060
Ohh the savagery: you go m8
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can SATA cables affect file loading speed?
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Can I just pull a HD and plug it in a new PC? or do I need to reformat and reinstall an OS on it?
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>>63726105
Yes you can granted you have extra slots. No you don't need to reformat, as long as you have a master HD (your main one with the OS) then your fine and anything after that is just extra storage, think of it as putting a very large usb in your pc.
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>>63726073
Most major components have built in ESD protection.
https://www.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/334/images/ud-tech.html
>GIGABYTE 8 Series motherboards raise the bar in terms of protecting your system, providing advanced electrostatic discharge (ESD) protection for both your Ethernet LAN and USB ports, both common sources of ESD-related failures. Each LAN and USB port is paired with a dedicated protection filter that can withstand high electrostatic discharges, protecting your system from common electrical surges and even direct lighting strikes.
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>>63726139
Yeah those are the ports themselves. Touch a trace when you're building the thing and you could theoretically bypass all that and send your coulombs straight to the pad of some IC
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>>63726060
What the point having high fps if it micro stutter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11NfsMykyAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qswrFCb5sMQ
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32" 4k @ 60hz compared to 28" 2k @ 144hz?

I suspect use case would be mostly content consumption, productivity and a bit of gaming - leaning towards 32" 4k because of that but open to some opinions?
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>>63726129
what if it's the master/boot drive?
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>>63726188
What do you mean by "2k"? Saying 4k is bad enough but 2k literally means nothing.
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>>63726156
Fug, you're scaring me man. Do I really need to buy a mat or wrist strap?
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>>63726232
3840 x 2160 vs 2560 x 1440
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>>63726239
Those things are useless
>>63726246
Get the 3840x2160 monitor. If it's IPS that also helps.
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>>63726193
If your pulling your boot drive, then yes you would need to reinstall the OS, otherwise you will need to connect it to the proper sata connection. I forgot to mention that you will need to activate the new ports in the BIOS by restarting and going to it again. And then restart once again and reformat it to the proper form in the BIOS. I was talking about external hdd's before. which are considerably easier to use and access which is what I have myself. But yea you don't need to add an OS just reformat and activate additional ports.
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>>63726156
this

I fried a mobo while it was running by touching a heat sink by accident. Not the CPU heatsink, but a northbridge heatsink. You'd think a GIANT HUCK OF METAL would be insulated or grounded
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ordered the wrong ram
should i order the correct ram and wait for it to arrive before i rma?
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>>63726274
LG 32UD59-B and LG 32UD99-W seem to be the two options I'm looking at, I think they're both IPS just one has USB-C (nice for macbook) and HDR - such a price hike for those two features though.

Do you 32" is too big for a desk; will probably be like 60cm - 80cm away from it (and then added size would be good for when watching shit from in bed)?
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>>63726372
Wait nvm LG 32UD59-B is a VA pannel so LG 32UD99-W is like my only option - $1400 AUD later :)))))))))
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>>63725709
First number is the generation. Second is the tier

>>63725749
R5 1600 is better at gaming than the i3 8100. Considering mobo costs the R5 platform is also cheaper.

>>63725781
Ryzen has good enough single core to get great FPS on all old games though.

Once the i5 8400 comes down in price + gets cheap mobos it'll push out the R5 1600.

>>63725787
Needs fast RAM
23.8" is too small for 1440p
1060 is an absolute bare minimum for 1440p; only get that card if you absolutely know you're not playing anything graphically intensive
Not sure that the cooler will fit in the case

>>63725872
You can play anything, but some games not that well (lower settings, 30FPS)

>>63726060
>Intel CPUs will always bench higher than Ryzens
Oh really? Well why does the 2c/2t G4400 bench lower than the R7 1800X, faggot? Oh right, you're a moron.

Both Intel and AMD have good gaming CPUs. Depends on the price/perf, fan boi. Which brings me to your other point: The R5 1600 can get over 60FPS in all current games. Why the fuck would you pay more to get 300FPS as opposed to 250? You're never going to see those frames because your monitor can't display them.

>>63726188
>>63726372
>>63726377
For gaming I'd say 1440p 165Hz IPS Non-Freesync or 1440p 144Hz VA (not TN). Easier to drive than 4K. If you're getting 4K wait for high refresh monitors with HDR10
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>>63725916
It's fine. I wouldn't buy the i7 though. No benefit in gaming over the i5s now or for the foreseeable future. The i5s coming after Coffee are rumored to be 6c/12t, so you'll be able to upgrade cheap when you need to (a long ass time from now).
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>>63726437
>For gaming I'd say 1440p 165Hz IPS Non-Freesync or 1440p 144Hz VA (not TN). Easier to drive than 4K. If you're getting 4K wait for high refresh monitors with HDR10
What if it's only gaming casually? I'd say if all goes to plan it'll get a lot more content consumption use, and some productivity that benefits from the screen realestate (like dealing with large datasets).

That's why I'm considering spending so much because it's something I'm probably going to use (and hopefully love) for the foreseeable future.

One more quick thing; if I turn the resolution in a game from 3840 x 2160 to 2560 x 1440 (but keep it fullscreen) it won't look like shit will it? Because that's the idea I had when it came to gaming so it doesn't hammer my computer so hard.
>>63726498
I know there's no real benefit for gaming but the 6c/12t seems like it would be great for parallel processing tasks which are sort of commonplace in things to do with predictive modelling (a field I'm getting into and computer will likely be used for).

Figured for an extra $200 is probably worth the extra cores in my case - plus I've been saving for years for an upgrade and I'm so, so, so sick of "waiting for the next best thing to come around."
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>>63726556
I prefer higher resolution to higher resolution textures
Running at native 2160 even if you have to turn it down slightly is better than running at 1440
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>>63726556
3840 x 2160 to 2560 x 1440 doesn't scale perfectly. Not really sure if that matters. 1440p is basically four 720p screens glued together while 2160p is basically four 1080p screens glued together

My point about the getting the i5 is that you can replace it with an i7 8700K later for cheap, if you wanted to.
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>>63726587
True, I guess I'd just play around with the options to find the best balance for the rig.
>>63726597
Fucking screen resolutions and their retarded lack of continuity in naming - but yeah I just meant the sort of 'next step down' but in the same aspect ratio as 3840 x 2160; if that makes sense.

And yeah that could be a pretty smart idea; just not sure how worth because I want to try be on the z370 platform so I don't have to upgrade every fucking component as quickly. And it's only like an extra $160 AUD to just get the i7 and never think about it again ahaha
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3D modelling & Sculpting & Gaming. Possible minor video editing/capture.
(Zbrush, 3DSMAX, MAYA)
$1500max budget CAD
want Full Tower case; don't care about looks, just something solid and reliable
1080p monitor
already have decent mouse + keyboard, so no need
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I have some questions for my build ($700 is my max budget).

1) Is the $45 bump up from 2400mhz to 3200mhz worth? (The HyperX Fury is a good deal as the other 2x4 2400ghz kits are at $100+)
2) Is buying a $110 VA monitor a huge downgrade from an IPS panel? I could save $20 if I downgrade so if I buy the cheaper VA monitor, I can buy the 3200mhz RAM kit.

This build is for gaming, video and photo editing, and programming. I wanted an IPS because I heard that it's better to look at (colors and shit). Feel free to suggest changer before I pull the trigger next week.
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budget 3000cad
want a pc that will stand the test of time for a bit help
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>>63726678
use is gaming p.s.
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>>63726556
/v/ refugee detected.
>>63726656
Dollary-dos arn't a real world currency.
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I installed windows 10 home when I used the USB method to install it on my new build

Now I have to get a key to activate it (fuck that watermark when I'm gaming)
Is home edition fine or should I (or even can I) upgrade to pro or something else?
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GPUs

Am I better off:

>Pay for top of the line now (eg: GTX 1080ti) and use it for the next 4 years

or

>Buy something half the price (GTX 1060 6GB) and use it for half as long (2 years)

??
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>>63726791
Buy 1080ti from EVGA and get that step-up program so that you can trade in your 1080ti for Volta at a fraction of the price.
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>>63726661
What performance are you looking for?
As far as I know Zbrush is RAM heavy and can utilise multicore, 3DS max can only use multicore sometimes, and Maya can sometimes use multiple threads but other times can't.
Maybe a Ryzen 1700 or an i7 8700?

As far as a video card goes I don't know what would match up because I don't know how much it would be utilised.

>>63726678
>>63726688
That isn't descriptive at all. I can tell you some parts that would work with your budget but you might overspend or underspend.

>>63726730
You can buy Pro, but I wouldn't say it's worth it over Home.
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>>63726833
So if I just keep the home I installed and upgrade it with a home license key I'll be all good to go and no miss out on any epic features?
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My HDD led wire that attatches to the mobo has 2 black wires. How do I know which one is positive? There's an arrow on the dupont connector. Does the arrow point to positive or negative?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Algodeen/saved/WnFXHx

I’m building primarily a gaming pc. These are the parts I have now and I’m looking for a good GTX 1060 6GB.

Also on the fence about settling for a 8600 over the 8700.
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>>63726875
There are very few reasons to buy Pro on a new OS. For something like 7 the only way to get a full copy and not OEM is to buy Pro or Ultimate.
For 10 you can buy Home as OEM or Full.
Another reason would be if you're running a workstation and desire the ability to use lots of RAM (more than 128GB), or if you're a business and need some special feature.
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>>63726912
Alright thanks. What's the consensus on OEM vs Full? I'm assuming since I built myself I could get away with OEM but is there a reason I should consider full?
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>>63726717
why am I a /v/ refugee? :(
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>>63726903
This build is all over the damn place
>212 Evo
Subpar performance as far as overclocks go
>1TB Black
Very expensive for a 1TB drive.
>1060
You will hit nowhere near 144 fps at 1440p. Good thing that monitor has g-sync.
>550w
This is uncomfortably low. If you ever upgrade you will probably need to buy a new one.
>Case
Way too expensive and not even (subjectively) that great. You could put the money toward basically anything else.
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>>63726931
You can get OEM on kinguin for $30 but the liscence is less flexible and is tied to your motherboard. Microsoft also probably won't give you any tech support.
Full is $110 retail but is reusable and Microsoft will give you free support.
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>>63726666
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8tHZkT

forgot the damn link and wtf I got quads
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>>63726791
Depends on your resolution. 99% chance the 1060

>>63726810
Dumb. New card has to get released within three months of purchase of the first one

>>63726903
Either i5 8400, i7 8700, or i7 8700K
i5 8600K is a very poor choice
1060 is weak for 1440p
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>>63727154
Get a semi modular PSU, not full modular. Save $20
Get a cheaper ~$60 mobo. Save $30
Get a used 23-24" 1080p monitor. Save $75
Dump the $120 into 1x 8GB of fast RAM and either a 3GB 1060 or an SSD
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>>63727154
>>63727203
Basically this build from the OP is what you're looking at
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=zqYr7P
Either you drop the SSD to afford the monitor or you drop to a 1050Ti to afford the monitor. (Of course the wireless card is also dropped.)
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I am by no means looking to upgrade this immediately, or even within the next 6 months.
But if I was to upgrade this build, where should I start?
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>>63726933
Because you're a gamerfag.
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>>63727305
Probably monitor
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>>63727305
Also try to OC your RAM
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>>63727305
I would buy a second monitor and then a new card.
You could also do something fancy like watercooling or a case or a mechanical keyboard
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Any worthwhile 512GB SSDs in Canada between the 850 EVO (~$220) and 960 EVO(~$320)?
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>>63727542
850 PRO if you want higher reads
Otherwise not really
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>>63727565
Writes, not reads
Whoops
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>>63726903
>anything less than a 1080 paired with anything intel
Every. Thread. Either spend a bit more to get a 1080 to go twith your 8600 or actually get MOARFPS by going 1080+ryzen 1600 for the same or even cheaper price.
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>>63727542
>500GB SSD
>850 EVO
>$220
What the fuck?
I remember i bought a 850 evo 500GB ssd for 120 dollars last black friday.
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>>63727790
In Canada?
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>>63727803
It was the US store.
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How did I do 1/3
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will ram on my mobos qvl rated at 3200mhz be guaranteed to run at that even if it's not samsung b-die?
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>>63727905
How'd I do 2/3. Looking like an ass after that first failed edit.
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>>63727921
3/3
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>>63727905
>>63727921
>1080
>8700k
>Relatively cheap 1080p 144hz
Good job wasting money
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>>63727905
Should always look for the pricing screw ups.
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>>63727908
Yes
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>>63727931
Oh well. Liquidated stock holdings. Didn't work for any if it.
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>>63727934
all the ram on the qvl are in packs for 32+gb
how do i know 16gb variants will work with it?
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>>63727982
You don't know. If the models don't match, you hope your mobo manufacturer isn't incompetent.
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>>63725252
Pls help is the paste from intel stock cooler conductive?
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>>63728013
Assume all paste is conductive.
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>>63727921
Im so confused you got a 1080 and a Monitor that supports HDMI yet you bought a DVI cable, is there a reason to this ?
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>>63728082
I bought them because I have 2 other monitors and another pc that need them.
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>>63728082
He also bought an HDMI, but I:m confused as to why he didn't buy Displayport, which is objectively better than either of the two.
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Could you guys rate my midrange build?
I'm new to all of this stuff
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/p9VP2R
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>>63727030
how big of a deal is OEM/no tech support?
I've never had to use microsoft's support in the past but I've also never used 10
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>>63728170
Also the reason I've picked such expensive motherboard and PSU is that I expect to upgrade the PC in the future and would like to keep these two the same
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>>63728170
>>63728184
>Upgrading a 7th gen platform
lmao
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>>63728043
But rubbing alcohol on the back of the board is safe?
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>>63728170
I can't tell if those are good prices but the parts look reasonably good, ought to perform well for several years.
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>>63728193
So long it is high% alcohol and then let is dry and then wipe it down.
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>>63728197
They're the best prices one can get in Italy. In dollars that's about 1100 excluding the keyboard, mouse, monitor and speakers
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>>63728170
The 7100 is flat-out bad. Only 2 cores and 4 threads at subpar clocks. The best thing you can upgrade to is a 7700k which is already outdated not to mention that it has thermal issues when overvolted/overclocked.
The 560 is a bad card and not worth buying.
Your motherboard is way overpriced and won't benefit you more than a cheaper board.
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>>63725625
I never understood this case. The autist who made it splerged out with the steampunk, but then uses the cheapest fucking plywood for the structural portion of the case. He probably spent $200 on the fittings and doodads, and then went to Home Depot and bought a $10 sheet of plywood and stained it the worst color possible.


Fuck, at least use Oak. It's not even much more expensive, and it won't look like some mexican tried to get fancy with free materials from the jobsite.
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>>63728208
mi dispiace non parlo italiano
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Alright lads, not sure if you can help but I'm in Texas and looking to upgrade my toaster PC for next to nothing (as I'm leaving it with a relative in 3 weeks). I'm going to a Goodwill computer works on Saturday but was looking for any other suggestions as to where I can get cheap components. My current rig is an E8500 with 4gb of ddr2 ram, a 300GB mechanical HDD and an R7 260. I'm obviously looking for another HDD and an extra 4gb of RAM
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Should I wait for gpus prices to drop?
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>>63728170
>>63728240
If you can fit this into your budget, this build would perform a lot better in basically every way.
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/jptywV
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budget: 1000 AUD
intent: linux host, windows 7 VM play all games for the next 5 years at 1080p preferably 60 fps
locked (wait for H370 motherboards) or unlocked, i5 or i7?
what gpu would not be overkill for this?
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>>63728314
Very interesting.
Thanks
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>>63728338
The biggest hitters are the case and video card.
If you plan to upgrade your card soon(er) and are fine with this case you can save some money.
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/R2HZkT
>>63728335
There isn't any great option for playing every game in the next 5 years at 60 fps because any card will depreciate and older cards will stop being optimised regardless. Personally, I find it best to upgrade a few years in.
My recommendation is to get an 8400 and 1060 6GB now and if you notice frame drops upgrade your card. If you buy a Z370 board you also have the option of getting a used 8700k down the road.
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>>63726901
positive
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>>63728387
>https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/jptywV
I actually really like this build and I'm comparing it to the tower PCs available on the market in Italy, for example https://www.eprice.it/pc-desktop-HP/d-11106911
Despite costing 100 euros less it has an SSD and a grafics card "twice as powerful". I'm really motivated to start building my own PC next year, hopefully the RAM and grafics cards prices will settle
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>>63728488
Also the superior RAM speed
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Guys, can you check out the build I put together for my brother (14)?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HJsrzM
My parents were going to buy a prebuilt, I looked at it and it's trash so I said I could do better. We're on the verge of pulling the trigger. He'll be using a 1080p 60hz monitor. He plays pubg, rainbow six siege and some other fpses I don't know about. Thanks in advance.
>I really wanted to put another 8gb stick in but ram is so fucking expensive and they don't want to spend a grand on the pc, I'm already on the budget limit.
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>>63728182
Its a mixed bag, oem doesnt matter since its the same shit, but transfering a key to a new mobo is a lottery of possibility and ease of procedure. Retail oem can be transferred, but grey market oem are probably left over prebuilt keys so they may not be transferable.

Tech support you can do without if you know how to use google properly. I think W10 is more of a hassle compared to W7 since the forced updates doesnt let you stay on a stable driver/software balance, but the system is a tiny bit better at handling stability issues in my opinion. Its a practical example of more automation = less control. Its a mixed bag, but W10 doesnt get on my nerves on a daily basis as its usually smooth sailing for my part. Faster boot, file explorer ui, custom start menu are some things that I think help the user experience.
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Researching parts when suddenly...
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>>63728521
8gb will be fine for now.
Just be ready to buy another one in a year or two
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>>63728488
>>63728493
I can break it down for you:
>PCPartPicker build
>Substantially faster memory
>Much more storage (and SSD)
>More capable video card (slightly more powerful core and also double the VRAM which will let the card last longer)
>Board, PSU, and case are all of higher quality
>Costs less

>HP build
>Stronger processor
>Wireless internet
>Comes with OEM Windows
>DVD reader
You could buy all of these for the price difference, though. Memory prices will not go down, so it might even be smart to buy your memory now so you don't have to end up paying more later.
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>>63728563
I've googled the difference between the processors and the HP one is only slightly better, mostly in multi-core. And from what I know, and I may be wrong, modern videogames are shit at using multiple cores
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>>63728585
Some can and some can't. AMD and game devs are wotking on it, and support should improve. Either way, you have the ability to upgrade to any current Ryzen 5 or 7, along with whatever AMD pushes out in Febuary, and then Zen 2 in late 2018/early 2019.
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>>63728562
Alright, are there games that consume more than 8 gigabyte by themselves these days?
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>literally only a single 2x8 3200mhz set of ram is verified to work with my motherboard
>$330
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>>63728521
If you're going to invest in Z370 get something good; the cooler is unnecessary and the whole setup is expensive.
Get an 8350k and overclock or swap to B350 with a Ryzen 1200 and overclock that, which is your cheapest option for the same performance.
This situation might be a good time for a hybrid drive, as much as I dislike them because you're on a budget and he probably won't care about the difference between that and solid-state.
>My advice, and 16GB of memory:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DwwJsJ
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>>63728761
If you're on Ryzen there's a 3200 CL14 Ripjaws V for $225 that should almost always be good.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jpH48d/gskill-memory-f43200c14d16gvk
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I just finished my new build and it booted smoothly. However, the tabs on the IO shield somehow bent backwards and are now blocking a few of the ports. Am I completely fucked here or can I bend them back without taking the mobo all the way out? Pic related
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>>63728883
Those things are satanic
It's best to take your board out so you don't fry and ports while fooling around.
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>>63728777
https://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-3200c14d-16gvk
only intel boards are on the qvl
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>>63728893
OK, is it safe to pop the mobo out with the GPU and cables all attached? I have work in the morning and I really don't want to go through this ordeal again
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>>63728915
Yes. Why not?
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>>63728909
It's only what they've tested, but compatability trends point that the memory should work on Ryzen because it has B-die specs and B-die plays well with the memory controller.
>>63728915
You'll have to take your video card off, but leaving cables on is fine.
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>>63728883
you probably fried them since you powered it on
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>>63728941
There is protection against this type of incident, so he could be fine.
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So literally tonight I built a new computer and am staring at the bios atm. What OS should I use? Never used a linux type system so feel nervous changing but windows 10 costs muns now. any advice /g/?
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Let's talk keyboards, can you faggots recommend me some mid tier keyboards? Something under 50$, not fancy but durable
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>>63729043
Get some used keyboard
In my opinion there's no point in paying a premium unless you also have mechanical switches
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>>63729038
Ideally, Windows 7 if you need to use Windows. If you really want Windows 10, grab a usb stick and use the tool on Microsoft's site to make a bootable usb. Then use microsoft toolkit to activate.

>linux
install Mint or Ubuntu to a usb stick and try it out, it's not that hard...if you aren't doing any professional graphic work, triple a vidya or audio production, you really have no reason to be tied to Windows
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I heard gaming on ubuntu or mint is hard without wine. How bad is it really? Sorta was making a computer that was gaming capable but as I said I can't find a reg windows OS without paying even though I swear you were able to get at least one version free. I'd like to drop windows but at the same time scared to make my gaming hobby difficult
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>>63729156
really depends on what games you play

something like csgo would be fine
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>>63727905
ehhh not terrible. 1080 on a 1080p monitor is pretty overkill, you'll be running everything locked at 144fps. Should look into a 1440p 144hz monitor you'll still be getting 144fps on every multiplayer shooter and 80+fps on everything else.
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>>63728521
pubg runs like shit with 8gb of ram, i know from experience. Also the coffee lake i3 is really price inefficient because the motherboards are expensive, go with an equivalent priced ryzen with the cheaper mobo.
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>>63729038

>windows 10 costs muns now.

Yeah, nah. You can just download it straight from microsoft you know?
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>>63728893
>>63728926
>>63728933
>>63728941
Thanks guys, I fixed it and everything is running smoothly now. Appreciate you
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Holy shit boys, I did it. I put my shit together, and it didn't catch fire.
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>>63728245
What about this one?
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>>63729493
nvidia doggo
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>>63729665
Such a cool case for such a shitty game.
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>>63726437
>Ryzen has good enough single core to get great FPS on all old games though.
If you want to maximize your single core performance, even on a budget, you're better off with an older Intel CPU.

>Oh really? Well why does the 2c/2t G4400 bench lower than the R7 1800X, faggot? Oh right, you're a moron.
>the AMD fanboy resorts to comparing a ryzen to a pentium
You are hilariously stupid. Even if a far more expensive 1800X beats it, the fact that it's as close as it is serves as evidence Ryzen CPUs aren't for gaming.

>Both Intel and AMD have good gaming CPUs. Depends on the price/perf, fan boi.
No, idiot. The only good reason to buy a Ryzen over an Intel for games is if you're playing Civ 6, Ashes of Singularity, or any other games utilizing DX12/Vulkan APIs or multi-threaded games in general. Right now, the catalog is small and growing slowly.
The irrational reason is that people don't want to use older hardware, even though it's both cheaper and performs better.

>Which brings me to your other point: The R5 1600 can get over 60FPS in all current games. Why the fuck would you pay more to get 300FPS as opposed to 250?
Oh, so you're a moron who knows nothing about games or why higher fps can be important, but still recommends people gaming hardware? Ok.

>You're never going to see those frames because your monitor can't display them.
Hey retard, you just arbitrarily picked that 250-300 range. What really matters and often gets benched is 60-240fps. You don't understand the significance of it because you don't actually play or know anything about games, you're just a /g/ shitposter.
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>>63729820
Can you explain 500fps in csgo on ryzen then if intel is superior for gaming?
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>>63729871
Your settings are on low with an 1800x and a 1080ti
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How do i stop my rgb from resetting every time i shut down?
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>>63729894
Your point?
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Planning on spending some bitcoin on HTC Vive and some upgrades. Whats the card I should get? gtx 1070?
Also I'm wondering will my CPU be a bottleneck.
More RAM is already on the way.
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>>63729933
Get a 1070 and you can probably max everything
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>>63729933
1060 if youre sticking with those monitors. 1070 is for 1440p
i think you will have a slight bottleneck in some games with an i5 and a 1070.
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Lads?
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>>63730159
>pic related
Looks good. enjoy your ass asses creed
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>>63730159
Get the 2TB BarraCuda and an SSD
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is there anything i can use to clone hdmi/dp output from a monitor and convert it to a video file?
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>>63730365
Have you tried it with a capture card?
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Do /g/'s AMD shills seriously believe this?

>>>/v/399253636
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Looking to buy a new monitor, graphics card, and mechanical keyboard.
>monitor - $200~
just general use, I edit photos casually, game, and watch movies mostly
>graphics -$200~
same stuff, whatever would fit my build, the market was dogshit when I built this pc
>mech keyboard -$100~
something decent to upgrade from my generic lenovo keyboard. my friend uses some pulsing rainbow backlit keyboard with the blue switches, I think. but something like that I guess
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>>63727905
My friend bought that monitor for like $150 on Black Friday at Walmart. You payed 2x the price plus the 27 inch is 50 dollars more.
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>>63730456
btw my current monitor is a dumpster fire, it's a tv monitor 1024x576, except it's fuckhuge. not sure how good my gpu is, got it for like $50. polite sage
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>>63730456
>>63730523
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
I've got this monitor myself. it 21,5" 1080p 5ms colours are good and everything. It's pretty much perfect for me and i'm sure it'll be for you.
You can get a bigger inch one if you want though. theres in your price range.
Put the 1060 3gb . its a med-range card that'll get you high setting's on all(kinda) the current games and ultra on some. So it's good if your not an autist.
I don't understand why people like to get fancy keyboards. mines not even $10 and i can't complain. But I can't advise you on that.
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>>63730582
oops
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QfkKyf
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Just finished putting this together, now to the moment of truth
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Hey /g/

Looking to salvage the GPU, RAM and Storage drives from pic related into a new build, what CPU and mobo would you recommend to match it?

Main uses will be video editing and gaming plus budget isn't really too much of an issue right now. I'm not too fussed if the GPU is going to be acting as a bottleneck as I'm going to get around to upgrading it in the next year or so.

I was looking at putting a 7700k in there mainly for the hyper-threading to help video rendering until I saw the OP mention it's been superseded by coffee lake; would putting an 8700k in there instead be extreme overkill?
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Will a 4690k bottleneck a 1070 and up tier gpu? What gpu is the minimum req for 1440p ultrawide 60hz gayman?
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>>63730654
If budget doesn't matter, sure get the 8700k, but if you wanna save money and still have a good editing experience, the 1700 is great for the value, there's cheaper motherboards and the stock cooler is actually good enough for decent overclocking
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Anyone have any advice for mice?
Looking for a cheap wireless one for both left and right hand and only 3 buttons.
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>>63730819
logitech m510

It's like 15 dollars.
Why wireless?
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>>63731014
>logitech m510

I hate having wires all over the place and it makes it annoying when I want to swap from right to left hand.
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Hey amd shills and poor people.
Stop tricking people into buying ryzen processors.

This is not a good CPU. This is a low-end productivity CPU.

If you bought a Ryzen 5 1600 for gaming, you have made a bad decision.
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>>63731113
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>>63731113
What's up with your Intel® Core™ inside™? Don't cry anon, I'm sure it's not even that bad.
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Can this thing run Maplestory?

Thats literally the only game I would put on this thing because of having a desktop at home for everything else.
Im done with apple products and I wanna give my Mac to my mother since it'll be easier for her to use.
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>>63731045
Thanks for the tip I just finished my Intel Core I-7 8700k build. It provides silky smooth frame rates for my 1050ti like no a
AMD possessor could.
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>>63731334
>1050ti
cmon son
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>>63731160
It can run it.

How well is an entirely different story.
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>>63731364
How can it be not powerful enough when it has 768 CUDA cores? Cmon son.
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>>63731392
you'd get moar FPS if you shift your shekels from an intel processor and board to a better GPU and a ryzen platform. If you can't afford a 1080, you can't afford an intel
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>>63727460
>>63727483
What kind of monitor?
144hz? A curved monitor sounds cool.
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Here's something I don't understand, a lot of builds have the 200R or the 270R as the case, but don't you need to buy dust filters for those? I mean, just look at the top of those cases, that's dust magnet right there, and if you have to buy dust filters the price goes up, and at that point you might as well just buy a better case since it costs the same.
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>>63731500
Don't listen to this shill, even a 1050ti will see massive gains when paired with any Intel cpu AMD BTFO
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>>63731646
shhh, don't hurt the minimalist shill's brain
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>>63731657
Irresponsible amounts of performance
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I'm currently looking to build a PC in the ITX form factor, specifically the Define Nano S and I'm torn for my GPU choice. I'll be purchasing i5 8600k along with the MSI Z370 mobo (unless there's a better AMD counterpart?) and I'm torn between 1070Ti (EVGA FTW2 or MSI Gaming) and 1080, but blower style (probably MSI Aero) - the problem comes from the fact that the first fan from the left will be getting blocked by the PSU, which should in theory rise my temperatures, preventing me from OC'ing the 1070ti to 1080 levels. What do you guys think, is it better to get a higher-level blower card or stick to the well-cooled 1070ti?
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>>63731755
ASUS recently released the first high-end AM4 ITX board if that's of interest to you. You could save some money by going AMD and buy a better GPU. I think there are hybrid-cooled 1080s?
Whatever you decide to do you shouldn't be worried about having limited clearance near the PSU as long as you have enough intake fans.
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>>63725625
Should I buy a Vishera to save money? Ryzen CPUs look too expensive.
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Where do you even get Windows 10 pro other than TPB?
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>>63731847
Then you must be in yurope
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>>63731847
You'd be better off buying a cheap AM4 APU, or just saving up money to eventually buy a R3 1200
>>63731925
Everything is fucking expensive here
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>>63731831
What would be the Ryzen equivalent to the i5 8600k in that case?
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>>63731964
R5 1600. You'll find plenty of comparisons on the internet if you want the exact numbers. The 1600 comes with a pretty good stock cooler, too.
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Looking at the Alienware AW3418DW 34" monitor. 100hz and 120hz overclocked. It's an IPS and a 2k res but should I wait for something better? I have an 1080ti with i7 8600k rig at the moment and want a good monitor to really up my gaming experience.
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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812106085
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812107131

Anyone know anything about power cords, which brand would be the best to go with?
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>>63731925
No I live in the US but the Visheras are only $100 and the Ryzens are like $300--but I was also a bit confused because hyperthreading is marketed fairly inconsistently and I'm used to Bulldozer's huge cores without hyperthreading. Worth it once you realize you're paying double for a superior architecture + double the threads + a fan.
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>>63732093
Any Zen CPU that isn't a R7 will cost much less than $300.
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>>63732123
It's a Ryzen 7. My current Intel laptop has an i7 inside with eight threads.
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>>63731895
Microsoft.in
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 16GB RAMs are so expensive. Is there any reason to go above 8GB?
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>>63732265
If you want max settings in modern AAA games, yes.

If not 8GB will usually be enough, keyword being usually.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jFTPxr/adata-xpg-gammix-d10-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-2666-memory-ax4u266638g16-drg
this is currently the cheapest ddr4 right now
is adata decent?
should I wait to see if there's some sales later in the month?
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>>63732265
For now, 8gb is still enough for gaming, but ram usage is getting higher and higher so if you want to play newer games, you'd want to upgrade to 16gb sooner or later.

If you're making a workstation, you should have a bare minimum of 32gb.
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CPU bottlenecking is like walking a dog on a leash.

If a dog wants to wander off somewhere; maybe take a piss by a tree but you hold him back, you are holding him back the same way a Pentium would hold back a 1070.

If you were to let that dog move by moving along with him, you don't have a bottleneck.
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>>63732578
Rly maeks u fink
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>>63732391
>muh future proof
I listened to these meme 5 years ago and got myself 16GB of DDR3s never used more than 5. My other hardware became outdated before my RAM.
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>>63732578
That's actually a good analogy. Would help normalfags understand.
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>>63732618
DDR3 isn't outdated though? It's not the hot thing right now but it's still perfectly fine to use.
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could putting random sticks of ram in my mobo potentially fuck anything up?
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https://m.newegg.ca/products/N82E16834298771
>I can get this for 850 canuck bucks
>is it worth or can I get the same thing in a pc for the same price?
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>>63726903
You need a better card. Or at least a very well cooled 1060. Without limiting frames to 60 my 1060 6GB hits almost 90 degrees on a 1440p 144Hz gsync display
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>>63732782
Not unless you force it in and snap something. It won't work.
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Does anyone use an ATX cube case instead of a full tower? I wanna upgrade my PC this coming year and I want a ton of space and accessibility for airflow and to make cleaning easier. I also wanted to move away from air cooling in favor of closed loop (for now) water cooling to save space, and because my current heatsink and fan is terribly loud and I hate it.
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>>63732957
Also I know ill get bullied for this but I have a 7700k that I got from a friend for a good price. Can someone explain to me like I'm an idiot why its a bad decision? I know theres newer ones out now that will probably require a new motherboard as well, but I don't imagine ill have any problems with games using a 7700k for at least 1-2 more years. Its not like im doing 4k stuff either.
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>>63732847
Same anon here.
Will this build out preform that laptop
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/pikmin2010/saved/2jBxYJ
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>>63732994
Whether or not it's a bad decision depends entirely on the price.
It will last you a lot longer than 1-2 more years.
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>>63731847
No. R3 1200 has similar performance to that of the FX 8350 in both gaming and heavily multithreaded workloads

>>63732867
Your fan profiles might be messed up. Res doesn't really matter. You can get 100% GPU usage at 1080p or 1440p. It's about usage/power consumption, not res.

>>63732847
Don't buy gaming laptops if you value upgradability

>>63732782
Not permanently

>>63732618
You fell for the meme then. 16GB isn't a meme now. BF1 needs 16GB, as will lots of upcoming games considering XBOX has 12GB

>>63732265
You can get 8GB for now

>>63732027
Bad. Get 165Hz IPS GSync or get a HDR10 monitor or wait for HDR10 + GSync. Last option will be super expensive

>>63731964
Not really a gaming Ryzen equivalent. The i5 beats any Ryzen in all games where it matters
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8700K + NH-U14S

Will this be enough to cool this beast?
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>>63732998
The PC is better.

>>63732994
Depends on the price you paid. Anything above 200USD isn't a good deal
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>>63732027
>
Any suggestions?
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>>63733116
yes, but probably not for 5ghz
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Just bought pic related -- PowerColor RED DEVIL RX 580 8gb -- yesterday for $299 (plus 3-year warranty for like $29 cuz I'm gonna run this 24/7 @ 100%) and it's now $309 today. Did I do good? I didn't have Vega money to spend, and am running an A10-7860K w/16gb 2400 memory, so this will be for mining Ethereum (sorry for contributing to the continuing high price trend of GPUs -- if I'd bought this a few months ago, I'd've saved about $60).
>tfw polaris 20 xtx is enough gfx
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>>63726903
>spending more on your cpu than GPU
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Ok, so I started posting in /pcbg/ a week or two ago and have asked A LOT of questions and gotten a lot of advice. Basically I've decided to upgrade my 6 year old i5-3450 to something more high performance and up to date, and I've narrowed my decision down to two CPUS:

i5-8600k vs i7-8700.

Usage: I'm aiming for a hybrid build of a gaming/emulation PC and a light workstation, primarily for high-poly 3D modeling and physics simulations, most of which being used for 3D game development. Taking that into account, my research indicates I need to prioritize high IPC & frequency. Before people try selling me on Ryzen, while 6+ cores/12+ threads are definitely a handy bonus for me (particularly for navmesh and light mapping), it's simply not a priority. Factoring in price, along with the perks I'm looking for, I'm 95% sure a Coffee Lake CPU is what I'm looking for. Besides, my two options both have 6 cores, which should be more than enough for what I need.

So basically, I'm now dithering between the higher clock speed of the 8600k and the extra perks of the 8700 (3mb more of L3 cache, 6 more threads & hyper-threading). They cost roughly about the same for me when you factor in the Noctua D15 cooler for the 8600k, although I'm hoping the 8700 may see a drop in price when supply increases. As for the 8700k, that's out of my budget.

I know a lot of people are partial toward overclocking, but according to pugetsystems (custom workstation builders, link in the OP), they're say overclocking can cause instability and data inaccuracies. They hold the stance that overclocked systems do not belong in a professional environment (https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Is-CPU-Overclocking-in-Solidworks-2016-worth-it-747/) but that may just be for SolidWorks and other CAD software which I'm not using, who what do I know?

Anyway, at this point, I just want to get whatever feedback anyone has to offer. If I'm missing something big, let me know.
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Is there a reliable way to get win10 LTSB or am I stuck using home or pro 64?

It sounds like what should have been allowed. Is it actually decent for a daily driver or is it meant more for someone whose gonna work station?
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>>63733459
My current build (I'm typing on this PC): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JWrQFd

Upgrade Option #1: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VZFL6X

Upgrade Option #2: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FPKD6X

Also looking to change my case. Preferably something with a glass wall and nice air flow.
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>>63732578
Isnt that just bottlenecking in general, how does it have anything to do with specifically CPU bottlenecking
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>>63733521
>A glass WALL
>Corsair Vengeance with LEDs
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>>63733549
>>Corsair Vengeance with LEDs
That very particular model was on a huge discount for like 2 days, so I had to snap it up.

I want to try the see-through case because my current case (https://www.custompc.ie/ekmps/shops/pctech/images/thermaltake-v4-midi-gaming-case-231357-p[ekm]1000x1000[ekm].jpg) has gotten a bit boring to look at and I want something more visually interesting. I like like the idea of being able to look at my PC's guts at any moment.
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>>63733106
Thanks anon. Any specific monitors that you'd personally recommend by name and model? I've been doing a lot of research myself but there are so many out there.
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>>63733410
I can sell you my vega for $700 :^). The only time i can thank miners is because i can sell this shit card for profit
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>>63733549
my sides
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>build pc to play witcher 3
>can't play witcher 3 on linux
shit
Well I'm glad I didn't splurge for a 1060 now
whats the cheapest place I can get a legit windows key so I can dualboot and run non linux games on?
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>>63733777
Windows.com or whatever is official windows website
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Bought Noctua NH-15 for my 1600. Think I could get 4 ghz out of it?
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>>63733777
Kinguin and the like, always some other grey market place that has it cheaper.
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paired with a 1050ti 4gb, is this enough for 1080p60 siege, maybe recording via shadowplay and streaming shitty indies? How's the upgrade path for AM4 looking, will I be able to pick up a cheap 1600 when the second or third revision comes out?
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>>63733777
Kinguin.net has some legit keys for 30 bucks my guy.
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when will the coffe lake cpus finally be available? feels like i have to wait an eternity for one
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>>63734033
>Legit
Lol.
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Guys my laptop crapped out so I'm building a PC to replace it. I have everything set up, OS installed (windows 10, I know I know.) and such. I plugged in my SSD out of my laptop to my desktop to see if it would accept it just as a secondary drive without formatting. Nope. I bought an external casing so I could turn it into an external drive through the USB port to see if I could access stuff on the SSD that way. Nope.

I have essential pieces of work, pictures, videos, etc. They're all on the SSD. How can I access the SSD without formatting it like my computer wants me to to be able to use it?
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Could anyone recommend upgrades for the CPU and GPU in this build?
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>>63734133
t. retard who doesn't understand how they work.

Just because they're the grey market for games doesn't mean they're not legit.
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>>63734226
>>63734226
Could go for a 5500K on the i5 desu. Unless you really want to pay out for something higher.
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>>63734237
Enjoy compromising your machine. I suggest everyone to use your critical thinking abilities and purchase a full priced legit copy from your local retailer. You don't want to infect your expensive build.
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>>63734033
Does this work for yurocucks as well
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>>63734257
No, you keep being retarded and spending $200+ on Windows, while smarter people stick do doing research.
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>>63734276
t. Mustafi El Arbi
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>>63734242
Thanks, any thoughts on the GPU? Starting to notice some stutter on higher settings.
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>>63734306
Shit bro, I use NVIDIA. I don't want to shill out against whatever you're going for already.
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>>63734319
Kek. Fair enough.
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>>63733777
checked

>dualboot
>not gpu passthrough to a vm
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fbfZkT
is this a good <500 dollar build?
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>>63734388
>2015 CXM
hell no
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>>63734396
what psu should i be getting?
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Did you buy the right gaming ram, pcbg?
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>>63734257
how does using a product key from kinguin to activate windows infect it?
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Alright what is this Kenguin shit
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>>63734388
Not bad

>>63734226
CPU is fine, could get a 1050Ti, 1060, or 580 for graphics

>>63734170
Are you sure you can't find it in disk management when connected over SATA? Just assign a drive letter if you see it there

>>63734110
F5 F5

>>63734028
Yes, it's fine. Check benchmarks on R6:S but I'm pretty sure you can maintain a locked 60FPS on High

>>63733521
>>63733459
i7 + 3000MHz RAM
The overclock will be inconsequential (+15%?) while destroying any power efficiency the CPU has, as I've said before
All you have to do is look at the multicore score and divide it by the price to decide which is the better value
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>>63734498

This meme disturbs me.
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>>63734703
>meme
Not a meme, newfriend
Wojak is a meme
A joke image about RAM is not
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My current Setup is:
>Xeon E3-1230v2
>16GiB DDR3
>GTX1080
>Monitor with FullHD and 60Hz

would i benefit more from an CPU upgrade (including Mainboard, RAM, CPU-Cooler) or from a WQHD 144Hz Monitor with Gsync
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>>63734381
I got a 1050ti so idk if it could handle it
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Is falling for the 1440p/144hz worth it? Monitors are $900-1100 here
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>>63734661
>i7 + 3000MHz RAM
Already bought the 2666MHz.
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>https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FDkP2R
already ordered the parts
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Has anyone bought any used parts from Amazon Warehouse? Want to know if its safe.
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>>63735348
>Used parts
Cuckold
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Based mummy is buying me a new computer but I told her you guys think I shouldn't buy prebuilt and she doesn't know anyone who can build it for me. How do I find someone who will do it for me if I pay them?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sY3GWX
opinions?
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>>63735472
Just buy an Alienware dude.
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>>63735624
Suck my whole ass faggot I have picked my parts and /v/ has approved them but now I need someone who will put the parts together I cba to roflpown my own parts due to static or bending pins now tell me how to find someone and what it'll cost me
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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jayylmao/saved/tG33FT

I've never built a gay man PC before. Help pls?

Could I knock this down to about $1000 to $1500?

Should I go 1440p instead? or just get multiple 1080p monitors eventually instead?

Is the Liquid CPU Cooler difficult to hook up?

Would it even be worth getting the build I have on my list currently? I'm not sure if I want to spend that much.
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>>63730680
Cpu bottlenecking is less a thing at higher resolution.
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>>63735595
avoid mini GPUs (1 fan) if you can, you're intentionally picking shitty cooling.
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>>63735942
Pirate Windows
Get a semi-modular PSU, maybe drop to 650
Get a harddrive later/repurpose what you have
Find promo codes (seasonal, random, etc) per storefront
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Currently I have a Radeon R9 390 for my gaming computer. However I start to notice that newer games can't run it at ultra anymore. Battlefield 1 had lots of lags already, same with Battlefront 2. Is it time to upgrade? Any recommendations?
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Is buying a 1050ti wasting my money? What card should I buy if it's just while I wait for kryptokiddies to fucking die?
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>>63736298
depends on what you're playing, but not really

just don't expect to max every game at your preferred resolution
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>>63736298
depends on what games you play and what you're coming from

i think a 1050 is a nice card to hold you over for a while if you don't play anything intense, if you play more newer games spend the extra 50 bucks on the ti

the rx 470/570 was the champion of value but i dont know if it ever drops down to pre-mining prices
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>>63725625
Let me get this straight /g/
You cant install Windows 7 on new coffee lake intel chips because of some fucking bullshit?

or am I being fed lies
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Pls halp

Where can I find speakers that use an optical audio cable that don't cost a fortune?

I want to use my Xbox one with my new monitor that doesn't have speakers and I would prefer to not use some chinkshit digital to analog converter to plug my Xbox one into regular computer speakers.

Also does this look like a good deal?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0757YFH3J?psc=1
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My friend recommended a low-end build for a gaming PC. I don't really know what I'm doing. Is this an appropriate place to post the build and ask for advice?
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>>63736645
Yes

Use pcpartpicker
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>>63726170
7700k doesn't stutter, though, especially if you cap the FPS at like, 72 or something. Stutter only happens on GTA V because of a weird bug in the engine where once it goes above 100 fps, it starts to micro stutter.
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>>63736657
Great! I'm looking for a computer that plays League of Legends smoothly at 144+ fps. That's pretty much it. It would be nice if I could upgrade it to handle heavier games like PubG later on if I choose. I'm sorry my gaming choices are bad, but they are what they are.

My friend recommended this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pzbHkT
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>>63725625
any recs for 140mm rad fans? the noctua nf-a14 or whatever doesnt work with the kraken x62 for some reason
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>>63736811
Honestly if you're in the market for $60 gpus check out your used options on craiglist and the like. Probably find some decent card that's twice what the low profile card can do.
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I can't figure out why I'm having problems getting the USB drivers working on a Ryzen Windows 7 PC. I already did this once before when I rebuilt my computer earlier this year, minus the video card. I just got a video card to replace the old one since I could finally find one for a decent price and decided to reinstall Windows 7 as I swap them. For some reason I can't figure out, the chipset/usb drivers aren't properly installing this time, so I'm not able to get it running like before.

I use a PS/2 keyboard to get through the Windows installation process and try to install the necessary drivers once I boot to the desktop. I've tried using the most recent AMD chipset drivers from their website, the most recent chipset drivers from my motherboard's website, and the old stuff I had when I went through this the first time. Nothing works.

The same thing happens on all of them. I run the setup, an extractor unpacks a bunch of files to a pre-determined folder, and then a new AMD software windows opens when that's done but immediately crashes.

I can't figure out why this is happening and how to get this working again.
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>>63737132
what motherboard?

also are you installing from Windows from cd drive or a usb stick?
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>>63737156
MSI B350 PC Mate.

I'm installing through the DVD drive, and like I mentioned, I get all the way through the installation through the use of a PS/2 keyboard. The problem comes when I'm at the desktop trying to install the drivers to get the USB ports working.
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>>63737201
I have that mobo too and I'm using a R3 1200. I had some fucking problems installing as well.

Get a usb stick, use the MSI Smart Tool to both add source image and add usb drivers (one after another, see image). I had a similar issue (except I would blue screen) installing chipsets and audio after installing Windows from the DVD.

Also what version of Windows are you using? Try to find en_windows_7_professional_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_676939, I can confirm that works with no issues
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NOT YOUR PERSONAL BLOG
Also
>>>>/DIY/
is the containment board for self builds
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>>63736811
>>63736986
Will recommend this. My buddy got a 7870 for 20 bucks the other day, a while back I got a 7970 for 80. Both of those will slaughter that card.
If you're not comfortable with used either get comfortable you won't be jumped, or save and get a minimum of a 1050 ti
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My current Setup is:
>Xeon E3-1230v2
>16GiB DDR3
>GTX1080
>Monitor with FullHD and 60Hz

would i benefit more from an CPU upgrade (including Mainboard, RAM, CPU-Cooler) or from a WQHD 144Hz Monitor with Gsync
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>>63737303
Okay, but to be clear, what driver should I be adding into it? The AMD chipset drivers from their website as in http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset?os=Windows%207%20-%2064 ?
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Still looking on advice for building Android (Bluestacks/x86) rigs that can run the most intensive applications. I need to build a ton of them, and I’m looking to have the machine run as efficiently as possible, while being more or less easy to recreate.

X<$600 is my goal.
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>>63737443
I used the one under system and chipset drivers, from august

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-PC-MATE#down-driver&Win7%2064

The MSI smart tool will add usb support so you can use your normal mouse and keyboard, but that's the chipset you should be installing after
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Anyone else gonna try to snag one of these https://www.anandtech.com/show/12118/powercolor-announces-red-devil-radeon-rx-vega-64-and-56
It's "estimated availability" is tomorrow, December 8th so I figure it'll be available somewhere
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In the market for a new monitor lads, my requirements in order of preference are
1440p
27'
Price (max of £380-ish)
IPS
Freesync
144hz (I don't do competitive gayming, 60hz is fine)

I've narrowed it down to a few choices, does anyone have experience with any of them or think any of them are super shit? Is an IPS panel worth sacrificing freesync for?

Dell U2715H
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/BpgPxr/dell-monitor-u2715h

Asus MX27AQ
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/xRGj4D/asus-monitor-mx27aq

iiyama XUB2792QSU-B1 (cheapest freesync 1440p I could find)
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Z4DJ7P/iiyama-prolite-xub2792qsu-b1-270-2560x1440-70hz-monitor-xub2792qsu-b1
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>>63736986
>>63737320
Thanks, guys. What about getting a motherboard with decent integrated graphics and forgoing a graphics card entirely? League isn't very demanding, and if I decide to get a graphics card, I'll have saved myself $70 by not buying the low profile card.
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ETA on HBM3 nvidia GPUs?
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>>63738067
Next years workstation cards probably have it, unknown for consumer cards.
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>>63737767
No because I can get a 1080.
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New thread when?
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is it just me or are vega 56 cards completely unavailable in bongland? I can't even find any on scan
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>>63738317
You can thank the spike in cryptocurrency for the new shortage AGAIN.
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>>63738416
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>>63738416
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>63725625
Im going to be picking up a evga 1080 ti ftw3 pretty soon. Is the hybrid cooled version significantly better than the air cooled version or is just a meme?
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>>63737571
This worked, thanks.

Now I just gotta spend the rest of today and some of tomorrow updating and installing all the software I need.
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>>63738575
Hybrid cooled is only good if you are planning to actually make use of the liquid part of the cooling.
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New:

>>63738659
>>63738659
>>63738659
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Please help me complete this Build:
>CPU
AMD 1800X (to compile thing, and hosting virtual machines)
>GPU
AMD RX480 Reference Design (I already own this, i will probably put this in)
>RAM
16GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3200 CL14 Dual Kit (I want 3200 RAM with samsung chipset, and the pricegap between 16 and 14 isnt huge)
>PSU
A Random Gold/Platinum PSU with 400-500 Watt (I will use my PC everyday and the processor will be often at 100% load.)

Please help me choose:
>Aftermarket Cooler for RX480 (no overclocking)
>Cooling for CPU (no overclocking)
>Mainboard (Maybe RAM overclocking)
Im ok with overclocking, when the benefit/powerconsumption ratio is ok.
I already heard that the ratio will is not ok for CPU and GPU.
But how much watts can i waste on RAM overclocking?
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>>63734771
>>63737389
Monitor

>>63735472
>>63735645
>/v/ has approved them
Take a dick up your ass, stupid faggot.

>>63735595
Good

>>63735942
Obviously you don't need an i7 8700K for gaming
Drop to 1070

>>63736248
What's your CPU? 390 is still good. "Lags" is a CPU problem, not graphics card

>>63736451
Not that you can't, just not easily

>>63736811
Not that bad, but you probably want to get a GTX 1050 at the least. And you'll be able to play anything you want to

>>63737306
This is the containment thread. If this thread didn't exist a bunch of separate build threads would be popping up all over the board

>>63738025
You'll have to spend more. All of those monitors probably have ghosting issues and are likely TN
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>>63738960
You might need more RAM for VMs
I don't really care about cooling solutions, but just use stock on the 480 unless you already ripped it off
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>>63738644
Good to hear m8
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
What do you think? A bit of a budget (actually just from the third world were everything costs two times more) so my point is to wait to upgrade my gpu and ram when prices fall down.




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