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>Assemble a part list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and _monitor_ suggestions; click on the blue title to see notes
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g [Embed] [Embed]
>How to install Win7 on Ryzen
https://pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

If you want help:
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs:
>NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE
>*Avoid intel momentarily: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/
>*G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM)
>R5 1600 / *i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600)
>R7 / *Used Xeon / Threadripper / *i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use

RAM:
>Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
>Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports

Graphics cards:
>Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor
>Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon)
1080p
>GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little
>GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
1440p
>GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced
>GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
2160p (4K)
>GTX 1080Ti

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor

Previous >>64109587
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>>64122627
I just have too many damn peripherals, but yeah. I might end up going with that route.

#DONGLE LIFE
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>>64122679
asus is just shit
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>>64122648
how important is dual channel ram for ryzen 3, this video makes it look like dual channel is much more important than ram frequency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz9hxy5axqo
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>>64122648
op''s pic won the day

also is there a point of upgrading from q9650 to ryzen 3 1200 ? i was also thinking about 1400
pc fo web browsing writing and playing older game
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>>64122851
I think everyone should get dual channel if they can.
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>>64122853
don't even bother buying shit right now, second gen ryzen is like a month away and intel fucked up hard
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>>64122853
you'd probably get performance increase from anything just due to newer architecture
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Got an MSI Radeon R9 270x laying about since i can't be fucked to figure out why it keeps crashing. Sent it in to get refurbished and it came back with the same issue. So either they didn't fix it or i'm just retarded(likely.)

>Main question
Why am i posting? Well because i decided to look the card up to check for compatibility issues and noticed there's no pricing for it. Was it a shit card that they discontinued?

>Issues i had with it
Launching Mad Max through Steam it would get as far as the opening movie before screentearing different colors until finally crashing with a long buzzing noise. Only option was a forced restart.
Thing i found odd was that i could play Witcher 3 for like 4 hours before anything happening but i could also get a crash just watching a movie on vlc.
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>>64123149
look in the event log for the crash and see the error code
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Some RAM I've been looking at advertises the 3200 MHz, but reviews say that it doesn't run at that speed out of the box and you have to overclock it to reach that. Even then, people are saying it's not too stable and they have to settle on a slower setting. Is this common with all brands? The specific one I've been looking at are two sticks of 8GB DDR4 by G.Skills from their Ripjaws V series.
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>>64123210
a lot of cheap ram is already running near the limit and will become unstable on overclocking.
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>>64123210
technically all those rams are OC
there are only very few clock/latency combinations that are "stock"
What they are advertised as, like 3200Mhz C16, is just the XMP OC profile they come with.
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How do I turn my 5th and 6th cores on? When I encode videos, it only encodes 4 at once. Pretty sure I have All-Core enabled in the bios.
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What's the best and apu for the price? Is the fx series good for a streaming/classic emulation PC??
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>>64122851
>>64122869

I think it depends. If you're building a budget PC right now and want to upgrade your RAM in the future, you should buy a single 8GB DDR4 stick instead of an 2x4GB kit.
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>>64123373
I got an A8-9600 it seems okay so far for anything 2010 and before at 1080p with some of the more demanding effects turned off
if you only want DOS tier games, don't care about x86 and don't mind ARM consider a asus Tinkerboard
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I have a i7-4790K. Will the 30% hit me, or do they only apply to newer CPUs?
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>>64123711
The fact that you're letting yourself be memed by AMD fanboys shows you're not a very smart person.
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>>64123771
I don't necessarily believe it, but its always better to be on the safe side.
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So I'm still using my old i5-3470 and haven't had any issues since I bought it in 2013. Was wondering if it would cause any issues if I upgrade my 970 to 1070
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I'm thinking of returning my Coffee Meme and getting Ryzen. Should I worry about only having 2666 MHz RAM instead of the Ryzen Approved™ 3000-3200 MHz?
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I really want to get a GPU (currently on a 270) but I dont want some marginal upgrade that I will have to change in 3 years again.
I decided on the 1070 but prices are so depressingly insane right now.
The lowest I could find on amazon is this guy, the aero, for 408€.
Full lenght models are aroudn 550€

I checked out reviews for this card and it seems to be pretty good clock and thermal wise despite the size.

Any suggestions?
I live in italy so prices are shit and I dont have many options
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>>64123711
yes it affects you
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If I'm the last coffee lake owner so be it...
>FALLING FOR AMD FALSE FLAG

https://www.techpowerup.com/240187/amd-struggles-to-be-excluded-from-unwarranted-intel-vt-flaw-kernel-patches

Fuck you amd SHILLS your going down with the ship too!!!
>breathing intensifies
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>>64123771
(you) need to step up your damage control
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>>64124028
If it makes you feel better
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>>64124008
You could try getting a used 980 Ti. IIRC it's as good or slightly better than 1070.
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>>64123210
All memory past 2666 is overclocked.
Some memory has problems breaking the 3GHz barrier on Ryzen, and more hitting 3200.
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>BSOD memory management lately once in a blue moon on a decently new build when either playing games or sometimes just fucking around on the desktop
So 9/10 times this means one of my RAM sticks is fucked right? The Windows Diagnostic tool doesn't show shit but I know it's not the end all.
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>>64124054
poojection, also dumb phoneposter
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>>64124008
You won't find a 1070 for much less than 400€ in europe, if you want to save some money get a 1060/580 and keep the extra money you didn't spend for your future upgrade.
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What is the maximum price i should pay for this?
ASUS Maximus Formula Intel X38 Socket LGA 775/CPU Intel Core Duo Quad Q9650 3.0Ghz/8GB RAM DDR2 G.Skill/Zalman CNPS9700
The actual price is for 50€
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>>64124070
sadly they cost a lot more and power draw would be an issue

>>64124155
why would i half assedly upgrade now to upgrade later?
prices are always going to be shite where I am, might as well accept it
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I'm going for a system overhaul, is a M.2 ssd worth it?
Can I run both windows and linux on it or is it gonna be a huge trouble of shitty drivers like back when commercial SCSI drives came out?
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>>64124279
Wouldn't call half assed the disparity between a 1060 and a 1070 in terms of an upgrade, if you're not willing to compromise for anything below that just get a 1080ti and don't come here complaining about 400€, coglione
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>>64124695
what you're saying would make sense if I could foresee upgrading to a xx80 or ti card in the future but I dont see myself going past 1080p for quite a while, and I dont have multiple monitors, dont use vr, so a xx70 is an upgrade made to be durable for some years
no need to get triggered, suggesting upgrading to a 1060 and then a 1070 later is beyond retarded and you not seeing that is even more baffling
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>>64124755
I never said you HAVE to upgrade to a 1070 from a 1060, I said you can keep the extra money for your future upgrade when it'll happen, there would be no point upgrading from a 1060 to a 1070 in a few years unless you're on a very strict budget, what triggers me is that you're complaining about spending 400€ but don't want anything that costs less, a little research and you'd be able to tell it's not possible to spend much less for a 1070 so either get that or get something inferior for less money, it's not rocket science.
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So i was thinking on buying a pc with (pic), price is about 1000 dollars on my currency , is it worth it?
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>>64124987
If I wanted to get a placeholder card for a later upgrade I wouldnt get a 1060 which costs 300 bucks, I would get something like a used 970 or 480 for 200 you mong
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>>64125058
No, not really.
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>>64125058
Lol no
Don't do prebuilt you retarded faggot. Build or ollie hoop through a noose and neck yourself
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I feel sad that i bought an 8400 2 months ago.
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So what do I do. Delay my intel build until we know more?
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>>64125157

get a Ryzen. Intel won't have secure chips for a while.
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I wanted to upgrade to a RX580 but since the Intel bug appeared I fear it might affect my max frames and be bottlenecked by my 3570 before I reach 144fps. What should I do?
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Do I have to go ryzen now?
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Delay your builds, don't jump ship to Ryzen, retards. There's no guarantee AMD won't be affected too. In fact it most likely will due to how Windows works. Don't listen to the shills and just wait.
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>>64125490
amd can't afford shills, these are just fanbois doing it for free

don't worry, it'll all go away in <1 week when they're all back in high school classes
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>>64125369
yes or waif for second gen ryzen
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>>64125524
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>>64125490
Also, all the estimates and """benchmarks""" come from some random fuck using a rushed fix on Poonix.
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THANKS /PCBG/ FOR RECOMMENDING ME A RYZEN
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>>64125058
1000 is a really bad deal for that setup
left is your build on US pcpartpicker, right is what you could actually get for that sum
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>>64125539
>Poojection
every fucking time
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>>64125538
you should really pick a different picture for your "blacked" thing, that chick is either mexican or black already...

the fact that you have a catalog of these images really says something...
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>>64125554
my bad forgot pic
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>>64125563
I'm smelling you from way over here, Ranjeet.
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>>64125554
>>64125058
forgot pic
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>>64125570
Really says that you are easily upset
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>>64125576
wat
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>>64125578
Dont bother with WD, seagate is better nowadays
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When are gpu prices dropping or next gen coming out?

Originally I was gonna buy something last May but the unending mining crisis happened so I've been tiding over with a 1060 3gb I got for $160 with a ryzen build being bottlenecked by it.
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>>64125577
t. brian
time to sell more shares
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>>64125554
>>64125576
>>64125578
how do you forget your pic twice
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>>64125570
Who the fuck doesn't have a catalog of those?
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>>64125604
Don't get a card with 3gb or ram you will regret it
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>>64125584
>projecting this hard

how about you go shit up the rest of /g/, like your cohorts, while the adults discuss actual matters
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How necessary is it really to get a sound card for a PC?
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>>64125621
You keep replying and trying to have an argument with someone posting meme images
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>>64125624
not at all, mobo sound is fine unless you have very high end speakers or headphones
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>>64125624
Idk. My 10+ year old Creative card has been with me through 4 or so different rigs and only with my current mobo I couldn't really tell the difference in audio quality.
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>>64125608
this >>64125576 wasnt me, some weird guy
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>>64125624
not at all
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>>64125624
It isn't unless you're planning on spending over a grand on sound equipment to play your FLACs, or you have a particular theatre set up that needs 7.1 surround or something like that.
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>>64125634
>>64125624
recent integrated sound is indistinguishable from high end shit. save on chips, spend on speakers.
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>>64124093
Update your BIOS.
Test your RAM with MemTest86.
If neither of this helps, RMA your RAM.
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>buy amd
>its 30% slower anyway

at least I'll save some money. based asian lucy ceo lady! I can finally fit in with those guys on reddit.
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>>64125607
He can't, to sell more he'd have to resign from his CEO position.
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why is ram so expensive?
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>>64124028
>Fuck you amd SHILLS your going down with the ship too!!!
Actually no:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Tip-Git-Disable-x86-PTI

Microsoft will probably do the same thing, prepare your ass Intel poo.
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will this bitch work on a Z77A-G41 (MS-7758)?
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>>64125837
colluding koreans
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>>64125837
living standards in china are rising
soon cheap computers will be made in indian slums
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>>64125853

>blacked.
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>>64125882
>>64125894
Lol this retarded board doesn't know shit. If you don't know what you're talking about then don't try to respond to people who ask questions. Retarded plonkers. It's because of demand in RAM for smartphones.
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>>64125913
oh yeah I bet the GPU prices raised because of smartphones too.
hint: CRYPTOGAY
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So I know Intel hasn't released any statement yet, but based on the fixes getting rolled out and the speculated issue, it really, REALLY looks like Intel knowingly sacrificed security to cut corners and get higher performance.
If that can be proven in any way, Intel is literally finished as a company. As in, not in a meme way, like literally defunct and bought by someone else after being sued into bankruptcy. This could be the actual end of Intel
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>>64125913
besides that RAM is only manufactured in south korea, taiwan (and probably japan?). There are no up to date process nodes outside of those three japanese countries, the US and europe.
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so what are the best 140mm fans for case and cpu?
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>>64125953
2big2fail
If this problem really turns out to be as bad as it seems, they will invest hard in damage control, people will forget about it in a month and that will be the end of that.
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>>64125853
Does it have an M.2 slot? If so, yes. If not, no.
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>>64125853
not anymore
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>>64125984
Case fans would be something optimised for airflow
CPU fans would be optimised for static pressure
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>>64125953
>This could be the actual end of Intel
NOOOOOOO RRRRREEEEEEEEE
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First time builder. I'm a little scared of static damage. I'll be building on a wooden table and tiled floor. Am I fine like that or do I get an anti static wristband just in case?
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>>64126008
any models in particular?
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>>64126027
just don't wear wool, and ground yourself to the case before touching anything else. static is not a big deal, just yolo it.
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Today I have assembled my first PC ever, it felt so good but I wasn't able to install the Hyper 212 evo cpu cooler, so I went with the stock one.
The instruction paper wasn't clear at all, and by following an youtube videos I risked snapping my Motherboard in half.
I think I'm retarded
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>>64126027
literal meme unless your literally rubbing feet on carpet and wearing cotton sweaters, just touch ur pc case by its metal parts every so often to discharge if you feel like it
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>>64126067
Depends on budget, noise preference, and desired performance. There are a lot of fans out there.
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>>64125950
Those are unrelated matters you moron
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>>64126099
let's say best performance with unlimited budget
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>>64126095
>>64126098
Do I install my PSU and plug it in/turn it off and THEN use my case to ground myself or is literally touching my empty case enough

Sorry for the probably dumb question
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just finished my i5-7500 build yesterday. thanks intel. i hope i can get a fucking return on the cpu and motherboard so i can switch over to AMD
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>>64125953
>So I know Samsung hasn't released any statement yet, but based on the FAA and phone carriers announcing recalls, it really REALLY looks like Samsung knowingly sacrificed battery quality to cut corners and get higher performance.
If that can be proven in any way, Samsung is literally finished as a company. As in, not in a meme way, like literally defunct and bought by someone else after being sued into bankruptcy. This could be the actual end of Samsung
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>>64125953
Dieselgate wasn't the end of VW so this isn't going to be the end Intel.
It's still going to cost them billions
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>>64126143
just stick your fingers right in the outlet and save time
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So I know Apple hasn't released any statement yet, but based on the fixes getting rolled out and the speculated issue, it really, REALLY looks like Apple knowingly gimped customers to force them to upgrade.
If that can be proven in any way, Apple is literally finished as a company. As in, not in a meme way, like literally defunct and bought by someone else after being sued into bankruptcy. This could be the actual end of Apple
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>>64122648
Would you a chink tower?
https://www.gearbest.com/diy-pc/pp_1505871.html
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>>64126181
>art lebedev
Damn i still remember the optimus maxiumus, the fuck have they been up to recently?
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>>64126143
>Do I install my PSU and plug it in/turn it off
what? just install the psu, hook it up to everything that should already be installed in the case, then plug it into the outlet and boot
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>>64126130
In that case, you would buy the fan with the highest airflow in cubic feet per minute, just make sure that PWM control is supported so you can have better control of the noise.
As for CPU fans, you would buy the ones with the highest static pressure in mm/H20.
PCPartPicker has the numbers for all of these, so check it out. Also, Noctua specializes in quiet fans for heatsinks so look at their options.
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>>64126190
Cheap tower with the added bonus of the faint ozone smell of depleted uranium and the slightly less sweet smell of repurposed chink rubber. Sounds great.
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>>64126154
>kabylake i5
>current year
you were already jewed from the beginning
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>>64126015
>End of Intel
>End of 'what is essentially' a monopoly
Nah, aint' going to happen. They'll just market it as a new 'feature' called "Intel Super Security". Anyhoo, they still have contracts out the ass. Remember, there were still a lot of Pentium-4s out in the wild despite it being a literal turd.
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>>64126234
nothing really, it was overpriced and in super limited supply, and is out of production now. they made some sort of tablet keyboard which doesn't really replace the maximus.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3VdQjc

r8s?
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>>64126027
Static is built mostly by friction, specially wind, hair and cloth friction or just moving around, and a dry ambient really helps it discharge it.

So eliminate unnecessary friction while you work and humidly your room.
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>>64126395
I see the theme you're going for, but you should get the 1600 and use stock cooler, get an SSD, get a cheaper HDD, and choose a better PSU.
That 1070 Ti is also the price of a 1080.
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>>64126027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxugZ4cyf3Q
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>>64126756
ESD is a meme, don't live in a 3rd world country
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>>64126395
Get a ryzen 5 1600 instead, the 1500x isnt very good
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Which ram should I get? I've heard Ryzen benefits from higher speeds, but all the gaymen benchmarks I've seen show only a 5% increase which isn't worth 50 AUD for me. No ssd because poorfag and don't care about muh boot times and transfer speeds.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/4jpwM8

Also is pic related a good gaymen mouse?
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Best case for air cooling with no side window and good dust filtration? Have considered Corsair 200R, 270R, 300R, FD Define C and S. Wondering what you guys think of them. Can't make up my mind on what would be best for me.

i7 8700k with Cryorig H7
Open air 1070 or 1080 gpu
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>>64126903
Also the fucking ryzen 5 doesn't come with a cooler so that's why I included one. Wanted to get the i5 8400 which is cheaper, has a stock cooler and has better perf but oh well.
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I've never done this before, I've had a gaymen laptop since highschool. But I was given an EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 out of the blue, and now that I'm a grown man with a job, I wanted to make as good a build I can with that card and an extra $1500 (flexible) as the budget. The primary use will be gaming and video editing, and I'll eventually be using it for VR games. I have a 1080p 144Hz monitor already, but I'd want to be able to hit 4K later, which I assume I will be with that video card.

I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know anything about cases or fan airflow or the water cooling meme, and most of these parts were picked out from random guides that looked okay. And now there's this whole Intel debacle, and I hear something new from AMD is coming out next month I might want to wait for.
I'd appreciate any suggestions or help, because I'm completely retarded with this. Every single thing on the list is liable to be changed.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pnktXH

I'm planning on repurposing storage I have already for the time being, and I don't need a keyboard or anything like that.
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>>64126971
>Also the fucking ryzen 5 doesn't come with a cooler
any ryzen cpu with an X after the number doesn't come with a cooler. they are also generally not that much superior to their non-X counterparts
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>>64126903
I have the rival 100, it's pretty comfy without having a too obnoxious gamer look
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>>64126971
the 5 1600 does come with a stock cooler.
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>>64126971
How very wise of you to not run your pc without a cooler.
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>>64122648
Budget: I'd rather not spend $1000 USD on a CPU. I could if I had to
Use: Gaming (Arma 3, PUBG, Witcher 3, etc.), use enterprise software for stock/cash outlay modelling, probably word processing as usual.
Monitor/GPU: have a GTX 1080 from previous PC, and Dell S2716DG 1440p

In essence, recommend a new CPU, motherboard and how about 16-32GB of DDR4 3000mhz+ to start.
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>>64126904
I went with a Define R6 for my 8700K rig. More of a sound consideration and because I like the no nonsense style.
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>>64127065
Ryzen 5 1600 and some motherboard and ram to go with it that shit really doesn't matter that much
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>>64127085
Faggot cuck case for a faggot cuck who bought a faggot cuck le 30% cpu
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>>64122648
Graphics card prices are so fucked right now
Both the 3GB 1060 and RX 570 are sub 200USD cards and the 6GB 1060 and RX 580 are sub 250USD cards
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601205646%20601296377%20601296379
The problem extends all the way down to the low end. The RX 4GB 560 is the only card even close to being worthwhile based on price alone, but of course it's a low end card

Then of course there's the RAM prices

I feel bad for anyone trying to build a PC right now.. I really want to get a friend of mine into PC gaming but he's on a budget and there's no way a PC can compete with a standard PS4 on initial price alone
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>>64127065
ryzen 1600 or 1700 paired with a b350 mobo would be your best bet, but you can absolutely go full retard if your budget is only for cpu mobo and ram
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I will still buy intel i dont give a shit about this bug it will be fixed by the end of the week and thats the last we'll hear of it.

meanwhile amd is a piece of shit chip for gaming. so suck my whole asshole pajeet shills and do one
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>>64127131
>>64127178
After today's news, and ironically, coming after I gave away my 6700k to a friend who wanted to game, I was already looking at the R5 and R7s. Would Threadripper be completely ludicrous for my needs? Or "future proof" for heavier model development?

As for Mobo, since I'm not overclocking, the B350's are decent? I'm probably going to be spending more on high speed RAM anyways.
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Last AMD CPU I owned was a K6-2 back in 99'

what's a good gaming AMD Cpu to own these days?
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>>64127219
umad?
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>>64126395
Get R5 1600 instead. Also change the GPU to 1070 and get an NVMe SSD
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>>64127228
Ryzen r5 1600
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>>64127230
>4.5%
Lol its LITERALLY nothing out of the ordinary. Salto through a noose and neck yourself
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>>64126996
Pic related spooked me, I don't want the reject silicon ree.
>>64127008
>gamer look
I want to avoid this as well. I'm thinking of getting the 310 over the 110 because it's larger and I have big hands, and the X10 series over the X00 series because apparently they have absolutely no acceleration or prediction.
How long have you had it? Does the bottom wear out?
>>64127024
I'm still on the fence, might get the 1600 after all
>>64127033
I didn't want to look like one of those autists who buy a fancy cooler for a middle range card that has a stock cooler. I didn't know X cards in general didn't have them.
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>>64127228
R5 1600. R7 1700 if you need more cores
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>>64127065
ARMA3 and PUBG both hate Ryzen, so if those are your main games, buy a Coffee Lake CPU. Don't listen to the memers: The Intel debacle only applies to datacenters etc that use VMs. Gaming is fine

>>64127156
Fuck off

>>64126976
Looks pretty good
If you don't have an SSD get one
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>>64127277
>Don't listen to the memers: The Intel debacle only applies to datacenters etc that use VMs. Gaming is fine

Damage control
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>>64127258
It's a huge fucking dip for stocks of a mature company, you're way too used to the buttcoin rollercoaster where -40% in one day is normal.
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>>64127277
nice doobs

Well, I was already looking at the 8700k for the games, but I wasn't sure. Also, I have occasionally used VMs forolder software that my employer requires we use, since it works better "natively", which is why I had considered Ryzen in the first place.
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>>64127221
threadrippers are absolutely ass on gaming, but are good for everything else you want out of a cpu
b350s are basically the only mobo you'd need because the only difference I know of between b350 and x370 is sli/crossfire support
any a320 mobo i've seen has been pretty trash

>>64127259
>Pic related spooked me
well yeah, that's really the only main difference
if the difference of a few tenths of a GHz is really a dealbreaker then go for the X cpu
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>>64127259
>How long have you had it? Does the bottom wear out?
About 3 months now, everything is perfect aside from a tiny bit of wear from the mouse pad.

I got the 100 cause I prefer the symmetry and it's very cheap for a mouse with a good sensor.
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All this conflicting info on intel chips. I guess I'll just delay my build until there is more clarification
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>>64127376
All relevant intel CPUs will require the security patch, the only question now is how big the real world performance hit will be but it certainly won't be any faster.
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>>64127376
it's a performance hit depending on what you use your cpu for from what Ive read (not on /g/)
if you're just gaming then it's not huge, but super heavy cpu stuff is going to take a significant hit
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>>64127399
Again, unless you're using a VM there's no performance hit.
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>>64127085
What cooling setup do you have? How are your temps? GPU?

It's an aesthetic case for what I want, and has space for my DVD player in case I want to play old games. Also 3x fans included. A bit higher than what I wanted price wise but willing to shill out for performance.
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>>64127434
>there's no performance hit unless you use something that taxes the CPU!
uh
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>>64127342
Alright, sounds good. I'll be waiting on the outcome of the Intel shit before I purchase, but it looks like I'll be probably getting a Ryzen 7 with a B350. Thanks!
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>>64127471
>I'll be probably getting a Ryzen 7 with a B350
Just as a heads up, I'd look into the tomahawk by msi. it's pretty gamery trash by the looks of it but the ram compatibility has been very nice, speaking from experience
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>Pulled the trigger on a 8700k
>Parts arrive tomorrow
>Was hype
>Now this intel bug thing
Feels bad man
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>>64127342
Doesn't that mean the silicone has more impurities and will wear out quicker and be more prone to housefires? I'm not actually that knowledgeable about this, I might just be falling for memes
>>64127355
>very cheap for a mouse with a good sensor
Fucking right it is, I'm only getting the 310 because it's slightly bigger and I really don't like small mice (it's still on the smallish side for me). Otherwise I would get the 110 because 12k dpi is placebo autism unless you're a korean professional star craft player which I'm not.
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>>64127434
it has nothing to do with VMs but context switches. VMs are just one application where the secuirty flaw was the most severe, not the performance impact
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>>64127536
>Intel bug thing

Pls elaborate I am about to return the 7700k and I have the 8700k in my cart.
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Alright, I'll add that to the list. I usually get a Gigabyte or Asus board, and have ignored MSI since a debacle I had with an x58, but I'm guessing since they're still around that they must've fixed something by now.
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ASSBLASTED
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>>64127548
>Doesn't that mean the silicone has more impurities and will wear out quicker and be more prone to housefires?
no, by the time the cpu is unusable by wear and tear you'll be dead or very old
what lead you to this conclusion
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>was this close to biting bullet on coffee lake and 1080ti

not even relieved, I don't want to think anymore, fuck, what do I buy now? wait for amd?
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>>64127571
are you so dumb that you actually bought two of these things?

see this >>64126002
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>>64127536
I'm sorry anon. Gaming and day to day use shouldn't be affected too badly, I've even heard video encoding won't be hit either. It's mostly about VMs and pajeetscript as far as I know
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>>64127444
Being from Austria myself I went with the Noctua NH-D15. GPU is a 1080TI. Temps are around 30°C idle and 79°C stress test all cores. I might fiddle around with the case fans because I'm running with the least amount of noise I could manage.
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>>64127620
>Gaming and day to day use
yea not like anyone uses a SSD or hard drive or anything, i just store all my games in my mind thinking about how fun they would be if i could actually play them
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I need a cheap 24" monitor. What's the best for under $150? Light gaming.
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>>64126504
Have an SSD, HDD would be for mass storage. PSU suggestions? 1080 worth it?
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>>64123711
It applies to everything made by intel after core2.
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False alarm, intel bug only hurts performance in a meaningful way on lincucks
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>>64127675
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072XCZSSW/?tag=pcpapi-20&th=1
benq 24" ips montior
same page has a tn option if you care more about response time
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>>64127736
Go back to your damage control thread pajeet
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>>64122853
Still using a Q9550 here. For your tasks you're not going to notice any benefit. Buy an SSD instead.


Personally I'm waiting for ram prices to come back down from the moon before I do a new build.
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>>64125490
If you actually paid any attention to the issue, you'd know that it's a flaw in how Intel CPUs handle branch prediction and has nothing to do with AMD or windows.
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>>64127619
I don't follow the PC industry very closely. What is the issue with the 8700k? I bought the 7700k before I read on here that they run hot.

Have had 2 bad experiences with AMD processors though (before ryzen) on previous builds so I wanted to go with a high end Intel cpu.
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>>64127790
WINDOWS is being patched you absolute retard. Now go put yourself out of your misery by tanking a bus in real life. Absolute imbecile. Cretin cunt.
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>>64127587
>what lead you to this conclusion
I don't know anon, my core2duo e7300 has been sitting itself and constantly running at high %s just from 4chan browsing, ps cs4 and ms word, and it's reaching 70C at max fan speed as well. I've been using the same programs for 5 years and it's never been this bad. I even did a clean install because I thought I might have a sneaky monero miner running in the background.
I thought it was normal for cpus to start fucking up after a decade or so.
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>>64127772
BUT IT WAS OUR TURN TO BE THE BEST!!!!!
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Please remember the benchmarks we have seen so far are all speculative. The patch has not gone live yet. Any numbers; positive or negative, are based on speculative simulations at best and are questionable and wrong at worst. It is in your best interest as a customer to wait a couple of days to see what the real impact of the patch will be before you jump ship and reach for alternative, competing products. Remember intel is at least fixing the bug whereas AMD flat out told customers they will not cater to their wants.
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>finally decided on intel and 1080ti
>cant
>radeon is a mining gpu
>ram still ramming my pooter

I waited two years. with a shitty 2gb ram laptop. saved and scrimped and wageslaved, now the money is just sitting there. unspent.

what do i do

someone guide me, take me under your wing
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>>64127815
it's completely normal for decade old cpus to not be able to keep up with modern applications for starters
you can bring down temps by re applying paste and clean your case

>>64127867
do you really need a 1080ti, bub
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Hey guys, a friend of mine is thinking of building a PC, because a buddy of his offered him this motherboard (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157685) for $20, and suggested that he could use https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wZPNJV as a basis for a build.

While I do not think that it is a bad deal, I think that he could do better for the money, since it is an older processor and I think it is at a price point Where $50-100 can give you a decent performance boost. Here is what I came up with.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s3RPbj

Which is more worth it? I tried to make it be so that the Ryzen one was more worth it, and tried to make sure that it incuded all of the parts that would be needed for a truly complete PC, including the case and everything.
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>>64127867
ryzen + geforce, simple as that
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Any motherboard recommendations for high end gaming? Or at least what brands are generally better?
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Oh shit, my two year old computer has an intel CPU, am I fucked? Should I get a new processor soon or just wait it out and see what's going on?
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>>64127645
>SSD or hard drive
What are you talking about anon? Gaymen is not a syscall heavy operation and early benchmarks show it only takes a 5% hit. I'm not shilling anything, just trying to console the anon who fucked up and got jewtel right before this was revealed
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>>64127903
No, take it out and sell it to some poor schmuck ASAP before the real fallout hits.
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>>64127612
In the exact same boat famalamadingdong.
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>>64127901
WHICH ONE THO

R5? R7X?
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>>64127959
what do we do

wait for amd
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>>64127812
Hackers can view protected areas of the CPU's memory space with little to no effort.

This means they can get anything they want off your computer. Passwords, encryption keys, anything. Intel basically left all the doors open to the CPU's safe house (CPU Kernel) so they could quickly reach data inside, and the bouncer (management engine) that was supposed to guard the unlocked doors will let anyone through if they ask politely.

The fix for it is an OS software patch that degrades performance by 15-30%

AMD CPUs are unaffected.
They left the doors locked and designed their CPUs to access those areas securely.
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>>64127887
>modern applications
I'm using a 9 year old ps version to avoid this, also haven't updated office since 2012. It might be the paste or the fan, but I'm not gonna bother with it now that I'm getting a new PC.
You convinced me though, gonna save $60 and get the 1600 instead
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>>64126971
If you're poor you should not buy the 1600X because that provides little gaming benefit over a 1600
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>>64128016
Cheers anon. Will definitely wait for this fallout to settle before I commit to anything in particular.

Is there an actual fix possible for this? Or is it something that can only be changed on future generations of cpu?
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>>64128011
I think Ryzen 2 is out best option, plus all the normies will probably be chilled out on mining once the bubble bursts in the coming months, so things will be getting cheaper [spoiler]hopefully[/spoiler]
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>>64128055
It's hardware bug. No microcode patches. The only solution is to not use the affected areas of the CPU, hence the performance hit.
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>>64128016
What are the odds that NSA made them put the exploit there?
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>>64127902
Which CPU do you plan on buying? And do you plan to overclock?
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>>64126130
The retarded contra rotating fans that spin at 6,000,000 rpm, cost 80-100 dollars and sound like a concord fucking kazoo.
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>>64128065
seems credited friend

stay safe god bless
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>>64128090
non existant. Actual backdoors would be designed in a way that doesn't fuck up generations of hardware if they get discovered and require mandatory kernel updates.
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>>64128090
not something that you should worry about unless someone finds officially written proof
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>built entire computer back in May for $1150
>buying those exact same parts today costs $1500
I haven't paid attention to any pricing since I build mine. What is going on?
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>>64128128
you could read the thread and find out my dude
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>>64128091

It was going to be an i7-8700K but now I'm waiting to see what'll happen. No plans to overclock.
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>>64128128
Specific model prices vary a lot. A 1070 I bought in June might have been $380 but in October it could be $460. Other 1070s didn't rise as much, just up to market trends on that model only.
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>>64128173
If you get a locked chip (and therefore can't overclock) then basically any Z370 will work. It's up to ports/features.
If you get the 8700K you really should be overclocking and should then be getting something with powerful VRMs and great stability.
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Any downsides to buying a 1070 as opposed to a 1070ti
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>>64128213
>buying intel
>2018
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>>64128074
So I currently have a 7700K in box. Can return until January 31st, was planning to do that and go with the 8700K. I had two shit AMD CPUs 6 and 4 years ago when I was poor, was really hoping to avoid them. What is the future of high end Intel processors?

My main use for this PC is heavy minecraft (shaders, mods, etc) and AAA games like overwatch. What is the best way to move forward?
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>>64128243
>What is the future of high end Intel processors?
a landfill in new mexico
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>>64128175
This is what I bought back in May.
The only thing that hasn't increased in price since then is the case.
Even accounting for different brands/models.
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>>64128226
who even makes these pictures
i swear they all look the same but ive never seen like the official artist, if you could call them that anyway
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>>64128259
>that ram price
>that gpu price
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>64128213

Thanks.
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>>64128225
Slightly worse performance
If you overclock a 1070 you'll get basically what a factory overclocked 1070 Ti is capable of
>>64128259
Ryzen 1600 and Pro4 go on sales all the time
NAND is on short supply so memory prices are up
You did not buy a 1080 for $400
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Is it okay to route cables at sharp angles like this? I'm trying to keep things need but it feels a bit precarious, particularly on smaller cables.
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>>64128311
>You did not buy a 1080 for $400
>implying
Might have been a pricing error, but I did get one.
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>>64128330
as long as you're not always flexing the socket back and forth then yeah it's fine
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>>64128267
It's a bunch of shitposters who have made the same meme so many times they have attained subhuman instrumentality
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>>64128267
>who even makes these pictures
people on /g/
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>>64128371
If this is real then you are a blessed soul
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>>64122648
>no moah pufoewmance fow muh gaymes
guess youll finally have to grow up
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>notice I accidently switched around HDD led and Power led
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Will an ATX psu fit inside a micro ATX case?
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>>64128464
yes
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Riotoro cases any good? This one's cheaper than a similarly sized Thermaltake mATX but fits an ATX mobo.
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>>64128464
99% of the time, check the dimensions just in case
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>>64128452
Should be fine so long as you didn't spend 2 hours wasting your time on it
>>64128464
>>64128478
Sometimes; some PSUs are too long for SFF cases.
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>>64128371
I want to stab you repeatedly you lucky cunt
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>>64128493
I had to open the case again and fix it because it triggered my autism.
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>>64128493
>Sometimes; some PSUs are too long for SFF cases.
microATX is hardly SFF.
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I plan to upgrade my video card next month, I'm aiming for a 1080p@144hz monitor too, should I pick a 1070 or 1070ti? I have a Ryzen 5 1600 CPU btw.
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>>64128509
There are mATX mini towers. All PSUs should work for most cases though.
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>>64128544
1070ti performs better, but for 1080p the 1070 is really where you should stop.
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>>64128544
>should I pick a 1070 or 1070ti?
honestly whatever you can get right now, 1070tis were bought oos because of a recent resurgence of mining
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>>64128544
1070ti will give you a 5-10 more fps compared to the 1070.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEKcGcOhVHE
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>>64128544
Holy shit why are there no 1070s under $450?
You may as well buy the DUKE 1070 Ti
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=369,415&sort=price
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I need a new cpu for WoW. Problem is AMD shits the bed with WoW and well now with this hardware bug I've no idea what to do
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Name a better ATX case than Define R5 that includes at least 1x 5.25" bay 4x 3.5" bays dust filters that you can remove even if the case is right up against a wall, solid top and side panels
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>>64128681
R6
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MY 8700K JUST ARRIVED ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
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>>64128722
Why would you buy it anyway
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>>64128733
Maybe he just found out.
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>>64128691
what is even better about R6 other than support for roasting your GPU vertically?
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>>64128722
RETURN IT WHILE YOU CAN!!!
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>>64128771
Literally nothing, arguably they fuck it up by removing that neat top cover functionality
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>>64128760
The 8700K has been a retarded purchase since it was announced
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>>64126097
what motherboard do you have?
if you have ryzen/am4 motherboard the hyper 212 isnt compatible without an extra bracket you have to install
you can get it for free from cooler master though
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>>64128808
>R5 has quick release left side
>R6 doesn't
did NZXT sue them or something?
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>>64128478
>>64128487
>>64128493
Thanks
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>>64127572
you could also look into the msi b350 gaming pro carbon
it has great vrm for overclocking which you will likely want to do with any of the ryzen cpus
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>>64128808
>>64128895

I'm in the market for a new case. I was looking at the R6 because it's just coming out, but from what you guys are saying, the R5 is just better overall?
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>>64128486
no
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https://twitter.com/aionescu/status/948609809540046849
macos and windows already patched and no perf hit
so all the mess is about linux only?
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>>64128960
>gaymes
>relevent
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>>64128941
Without looking at it, I doubt Fractal would make the newer iteration worse than the previous one.
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>>64127891
The Ryzen one is worth it unless he's on an extremely tight budget, lots of flexibility with the AM4 socket down the road, the 1050TI is a significant upgrade to the 1050.
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>>64128941
double checked they have a quick release but its for the top panel not the left panel
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>>64122648
>current cpus benefit from high speed RAM
What gaming differences would I notice between 1x8 2400 and 2x4 3200 RAM with ryzen 1700x and an 1070? Does dual channel mode actually matter? My mobo supports speeds up to 3200 Hz
>inb4 get 16 GB meme
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>>64129057
you would really want to consider 16gb for gayming
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>>64128960
That link doesn't really say any of that.
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>>64128941
>>64129025
also R5 has 2 5.25" bays while R6 only has 1 so if you are planning on cloning discs get the R5
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>>64129092
Can't really afford to buy an extra 8 gigs at these insanely inflated prices right now, I figured I would get 8 now and another 8 when it starts not being enough/prices become more reasonable. So far I haven't seen significant differences between 8 and 16 in a single gaming benchmark.
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>>64129057
doesnt really matter for gaymen
if you have limited ram slots, getting 1x8 now and adding another stick later makes a lot of sense if you plan to do one last big upgrade near the end of AM4 and perhaps want to consider a total of 32gb of ram in the future
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>>64129151
>I figured I would get 8 now and another 8 when it starts not being enough/prices become more reasonable.
not the best idea, when you buy ram in packs they are certified to run together well
if you mix and match packs of ram you might not get the rated speed, even if they are all the same speed
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>>64129161
>>64129057

Oh I didn't see the ram speeds. Get at least 2600 for Ryzen, overclock to 3000. Beyond that is a meme.
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>>64129183
this
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>>64129183
As long as it's the same brand and model, it will be fine. Ideally you want to buy in packs, but with today's prices, it doesn't make much sense to go for 2x8 when 1x8 is enough for most people and gives flexibility.
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>>64129151
>So far I haven't seen significant differences between 8 and 16 in a single gaming benchmark.
Keep in mind that those benchmarks are run on a fresh installation with no other programs running in the background. So unless you close everything else whenever you decide to play a game, they're probably not very representative.
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>>64129183
The trolling is out of control here
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>>64129161
I have 4 slots, would 4x4 be better than 2x8 for 16 GB?
>>64129183
I was going to get the exact same model to avoid fucky timings and latency. Would that still gimp performance?
>>64129184
>2600 and OC to 3000
Alright, got it. Does every 2600 rated ram OC to 3000 easily?
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>>64129183
This is bullshit. Just buy the same model, you'll be fine anon.

>>64129246
Not him but I got 2400 that easily jumps two steps to 2800, so I would think 2600 could easily jump to 3000. I got LPX ram fwiw, overclocks very nicely
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>>64129227
I actually haven't thought about this, but I usually only have foobar2k and skype open when gayming so it shouldn't be an issue.
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>>64129246
>I was going to get the exact same model to avoid fucky timings and latency. Would that still gimp performance?
It would be extremely unlikely. I've had problems in the past with systems that had different brand ram sticks and was hoping that you wouldn't be this retarded
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If I have money to burn, is there any reason to get a R5 over an R7?
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>tfw started with 1x4 of ram in my ryzen build in june
>tfw added a stick of 4gb of the same brand every other month until now
>tfw now have 16gb and everything works fine
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Thinking about a 1600X and a 1070ti for 1080p 144Hz gaming. Yes/No?
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>>64129307
I'm a bit cautious of doing this

I got 2x4 originally at 3000, scared of getting another 2x4 3000 and losing it all, or maybe a 2x8 3000
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>>64129304
If you're gaming, the R5 (1600) is better value and you'll see better return if you spend the money elsewhere in the build. It matches and occasionally beats the R7 in many games. Most games just don't use enough cores to justify the R7 for most people.

In applications that use more cores, it's less clear.

>>64129412
Yes, should be fine.
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>>64129246
>I have 4 slots, would 4x4 be better than 2x8 for 16 GB?
If you are going to go for higher memory clocks you will get better results from 2x8 over 4x4
if you are leaving them at their base clock then it is fine
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>>64129307
I'm literally doing the same thing, being a poorfag sucks but as long as you have a SSD, 4gb isn't that bad
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>>64129307
>mixing RAM
the absolute madman
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>>64125624

If you want high end sound you're better off not getting a sound card, but a dedicated DAC+Amplifier stack (I recommend the Schiit Modi+Magni since that's what I have)
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>>64129276
>2x8 is better at high speeds
What about this? I was going to get a single 8 GB 2400 stick for 109 (this is all in AUD meme btw), but I started looking at 16 GBs and found this when sorting by price low to high. It costs the same as other 2400s and is the 3rd cheapest overall, but it's clocked at 3200.
I know all ram above 2666ish is just an overclocked 2666 stick, but the cheapest 2x8 2666 kit is $210. Is it worth getting that one for almost $40 more? This also means I can't expand beyond 16 GB but I think it should be enough for a long time.
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What's a good soundproofed computer case? I have an old Cooler Master case but it's loud as shit even with the fans secure and rubber mounts installed.
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>>64129741
I should add that doing this isn't worth the money unless you also spend the money on a very high quality set of headphones (like the Sennheiser 600 or 650 or something like that)
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Dunno if /sqt/ or here, but
I have an old build that I'd like to re-use, unfortunately the mobo is ded. What do I need to look for when choosing a new motherboard ? Is the socket all that matters (and whether it's DDR3) ? Or could I have other issues ?
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>>64129780
post the CPU model
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>>64125058
depends what country you're in?
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>>64128960
wow it's sort of like the link you just posted is a MAC based system
which... uses a PCID system instead of IO..
whoa..
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>>64129780
Look at the chipset as well, some don't allow overclocking or have a low number of PCI-E lanes. If you want to use an m.2 ssd that uses four lanes or want to crypto mine with 8 gpus this will be a problem. I can't think of other examples, just check the chipset, read up on it and decide if it has everything you want
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>>64129780
Form factor
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>>64129780
>Is the socket all that matters (and whether it's DDR3) ?
Being socket compatible is often but not necessarily a guarantee that it's compatible. You'll have to look at the chipsets as well.
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>>64129811
i7-2700
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>>64129745
What I mean is to actually get to 3200 is going to be extremely tough with 4x4
it will be a bit easier to overclock that high with 2x8
ultimately it matters how much you want to overclock it though
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>>64129886
Alright, thanks anon
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>>64129858
>>64129859
>>64129869
Ok thanks guys, found a list of compatible chipsets.
Also, any advise on where to buy old motherboards like that that is not 2nd hand ? (EU)
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>>64129961
also you should be looking into the quality of your motherboards VRM if you are doing heavy overclocking on your ram or cpu you will need a motherboard that can handle it without getting too hot
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>buy Intel CPU for new build
>happy with new framerates and general program speed
>news comes out literally less than a week later about the hardware bug
>news comes out later that same day that gaming performance (at least under the Linux fix) is basically unaffected because games barely use syscalls

Fucking rollercoaster of emotions.
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When will we get a monitor with
>30''+ display
>IPS or better
>UHD
>Less than $700
?
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Are 1000rpm fans enough for air extraction? Got 4 of them in my case
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Anyone knows what's the size of the GTX 1080 Zotac AMP! Extreme ? That thing looks huge and I can't find the dimensions anywhere, not even on its official page.
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>>64130669
look a bit harder anon
its on the official page
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>>64130669
the cooler is gigashit though
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Planning to buy

>ASRock X370 Taichi https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Taichi/
>Ryzen 7 1700X
>1070ti

Should I replace any of the parts? I wanna build a solid gaming computer that can last me a while. What frequency ram should I be looking for?
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What's the cheapest AM4 motherboard that supports 3200C14 Flare X ram?
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>>64130736
I heard it had good temps tho?
At worst I believe my case has great airflow, and since I'll use it for 1080p 144hz gaming it's not like I'll push the thing beyond any unreasonable temperatures.

>>64130728
I'll try looking again.
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>>64130741
if you are just going for gaming you could probably go with a ryzen 5
if you want to stick with a ryzen 7 get the 1700 then overclock
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>>64130741
Downgrade to a Ryzen 5 1600 for gaming imo
For RAM: 2600 is the best bang for the buck. Around 3000, you get less return for your money, so 2800 overlocked to 3200 makes a lot of sense imo, but look at the prices and see what value you can get out of OCing.
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>>64122648
Good pic
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What Poozen should I be getting instead of i5-8400? 1600X?
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>>64131055
1600x isnt worth it, neither is the 1300x

Both the 1600 and 1200 are better value
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>>64130061
>check the quality of your mobo's VRM
What am I looking for exactly? What makes a voltage regulator good or bad?
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>>64131123
Okay. How's the stock cooler of 1600? Can I overclock with just a couple of case fans?
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>>64131185
The stock cooler is good for some moderate overclocking but if you ant 4 GHz you should buy a tower cooler.
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>>64131142
whether it gets really fucking hot or not
you will probably want to look up lists created by overclockers
for b350 there is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrxhf_xZWI
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>>64130913
Unless you have some personal experience it, I really doubt you can get 2800 to 3200 when a lot of 3200 kits cap at 2933 or 3066
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>>64131317
i got 2800 running at 3200 on LPX ram
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>>64131239
thanks man.
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I want to buy 16 gigs of RAM for a new system. The price for memory seems to have drastically increased since I was last messing with PC stuff so I was wondering if anyone could provide some recommendations on what is the best option for under $200.

Main purpose of the system is both university work and gaming.
i-5 8600k @3.6 ghz
GTX 1060 6GB
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If I miss a cable for something in mobo or psu am I going to cause damage? Or will it just not turn on? Sorry this is my first build and I'm a brainlet
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>>64131316
Thanks anon, I'll check it out when I wake up. I just realized the 4x4 3200 ram isn't available anymore, I'll just get 2x8 2400 and OC to 3000, that's probably not that high. I'm actually kind of excited to order everything tomorrow and finally have an up to date PC after 8 years
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>>64131440
Probably this but you should really overclock your 8600K
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qLkj4D/geil-evo-spear-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-gsb416gb3000c16adc
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Recommended optical disk drive?
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>>64131569
yeah I'm looking into that now
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>>64131621
Yeah don't get me
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Best budget Ryzen-compatible motherboard?
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>>64131740
none
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>>64131635
What do you mean?
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>>64131801
Sorry replied to the wrong thread somehow
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>>64131740
For value? Probably the Pro4 or Tomahawk when they go on sale
Pro carbon or krait gaming of you want real CPU overclocks




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