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How to request purchase advice: http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

For sub-$50 headphones and IEMs, check out the infographic in >>>/g/csg

/g/ wiki headphone FAQ: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Headphone guide: https://canpicker.com/

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>>64722181
post your setups anons
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>>64722208
>filename
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BEGONE STAXFAGS
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Always remember to keep your headphones on a stand when you're not using them, and never allow your cables to dangle off of the edge of your desk! Be diligent about it, as well as your cable management, and you won't end up like double broken TH-X00 Anon from last thread. >>64713291 >>64713397

If you don't have a headphone stand, buy one!
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Is this acceptable channel matching for $20 earbuds?
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Is there anything better that is neutral and is portable/not being bulky to use outside, like ATH-m40x?
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Is FLAC a meme?
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>>64722287
Am I the only person that puts their headphones back in their retail boxes, unless they have a designated case? I've never lost a pair of headphones to a fall or cable yank.
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has anyone here actually used the emotiva a-100 to drive headphones?
how good/bad was it?
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>>64722325
You can if you prefer, but that seems like a hassle
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>>64722287
perfect stand right here
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>>64722353
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>>64722345
It's never been a hassle to me, it's the same principle as putting a tool back in my toolbox when it's not in use. Secure, protected, and right where it should be the next time that I require its use.
>>64722344
I know
>lolZeos
but he did a comprehensive review of the thing
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https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality
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Any thoughts on TinAudio t2?
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>>64722181
i want to fug yuuno
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Alright two completely different styles and sounds of cans but they are both exactly in my budget of £450.
Denon AH- D7200
or
Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO

What would you get?
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>>64722649
>What would you get?
something better for half the price
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>>64722649
What amp+dac?
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>>64722181
Now that's some acceptable feet, turbo weebs should learn with this pic
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I got a decent pair of headphones. But now I want a better microphone. My shitty logitech webcam mic is... ehhh.
Would anyone have a decent recommendation? Or is there a better thread to ask? I didn't see one.
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>>64722353
I like this album >>64716138
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I love my Echoboxes. Thank you to whoever recommended them.
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>>64722353
I need that as a stand.
I'm only using one I 3D printed myself.
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>>64722856
Probably me, and you're very welcome.
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>>64722871

I know they aren't the most expensive IEMs in the world, but I hear details in my favorite songs that I've never heard before. My only complaint is no volume control on the cord, but that's minor. I hope these last me a long time.
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>>64722882
>>64722856
Which model, anon?
They look interesting
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>>64722882
The newer Finder models actually have remotes (both an Apple model and an Android model). Although they're rugged as hell and will probably last you a really long time, if you ever DO need to replace them you can get one with a remote.
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>>64722893
>>64722893

Finders.
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>>64722353
>have massive fat head
>neso is too big for comfort
>fumo woukd be way too small
Kill me
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>>64722910
post pic of your head
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>>64722912
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How would a Burson Sololist Mk2 preform powering a pair of LCD-4s
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>>64722934
stop falling for garbage audiophool memes
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>>64722822
it's a great album
>>64722868
>>64722910
i have big head too. i just use a 99c stand that i bought from amazon
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>>64722953
Thanks for answering The question/posting Relevant content to said topic
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>>64722934
>listening to $4000 dollar headphones powered by that piece of shit
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>>64723063
>not reading the question

K thanks
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>>64723028
>it's a great album
Yeah, I'm downloading it in FLAC right now. I could upload it, if you don't have it already
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>>64723086
i've already have it in flac but thanks for the offer
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>>64722934
http://audiophile.rocks/
These will improve your sound quality even more than a burson.
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>>64723141
How can I trust someone else's ears I hand select and polish my own rocks thank you
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>>64723133
Okay, no problem
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>>64723086
i forgot to ask. where did you download it from? i got mine from jpopsuki
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>>64723133

nigga, u gay
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Should I get LCD-2? What other headphone can I spend a grand on that would be better?
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>>64723182
http://jpmediablog.com/album-flacrar/
It was a headache to get the download started, but at least it's lossless quality
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>>64723198
no you
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>>64723216
Fill out the form before you drop the big bux.
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>>64723216
stax L300LE you dumb dumb
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>>64723238
What form?
>>64723243
I dont have any more desk space for another amp, besides isn't the headphone + special amp like $2k?
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>>64723251
>besides isn't the headphone + special amp like $2k?
no, you can just get a $200 amp like the 252S. the headphones are $700 + shipping
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>>64723251
The purchase request form in the OP post, silly.
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>>64723267
Oh right lol
>Budget
$1000
>Location
US of A
>Source
External dac/amp
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfy always important
>Sound signature
Prefer something on the warm side
>Past headphones
HD650, ATH-M40x, Monoprice Retros, SHP9500
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>>64723301
stax L300LE
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>>64723133
What DAP is that?
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>>64723305
Stax look so uncomfortable though
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What do y'all think about the Shure se846? Second hand for 400.
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>>64723323
shangling m2s
>>64723331
great iem at that price.
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>>64723301
I don't know if I'd go for Electrostats if you want something warm. I'm not sure that they can match Maybe TH900? Otherwise the LCD2 would be a fine choice. Are you located in/around a major city? You may want to find a store where you can demo some cans or go to a meetup before taking the plunge for that amount...
>>64723331
For that price, you're not likely to get anything better. That's a damned good deal.
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>>64723324
They're very comfy
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Looking for a new headset.
I've been using a Gamescom 780 for almost 5 years, but it's finally breaking down on me after I neglected to repair the plastic band, and the wires are too frayed to even attempt a repair on those. I'd love to buy these again, but seeing as how the price has basically tripled since I last bought it, that's out of the question. Plus, they're old, so I'm quite out of touch with what new headphones are in.

Budget is about $50~, but I'm pretty flexible. I got the Gamescom for less, however.

In the U.S
For PC. USB or jacks, don't care as long as it's wired.
Full sized. I have several IEMs already.
Closed is preferred.
Comfort, I prefer them not digging into my skull, but otherwise I don't care.
Sound signature: Neutral.
Extra peripherals? Bah. Don't need a mic either.

Currently, I'm using borrowed headphones. A Bose CQ25 which only sounds decent if I turn on the noise cancellation, but still a little too bassy.
Also a bluetooth Bluedio headset, which is bassy as fuck making everything else sound muddy. Messing with software equalizers pretty much did nothing.

Currently looking at an Audio-Technica ATH-M30x and ATH-M40x from the Canpicker website, but would like some opinions. I've also got the Rig 400s in mind if I somehow felt like being a cheap ass.
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>>64723343
I live in the central florida area, just south of Orlando. As far as Google says there arent any audio shops around me
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>>64723356
Koss PortaPro. Avoid low end Audio Technica like the m30x, they are garbage.
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>>64723380
What about meetups? Like head-fi or the like? You don't have to drink the kool-aid to try a lot of high-end stuff. If you wanted to try some really nice IEMs, Jerry Harvey's store/shop is located in Orlando.
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>>64722353
Nice greatest headphones ever created by man, anon.
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>>64723258
So I decided to take you somewhat seriously and look up that stuff. I cant find the 252s anywhere for sale except for one private seller on eBay selling his used one for $350
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>>64723387
These look like something up my ally. How do they handle surround sound? I'm mainly looking for a headset for gaming.
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>>64723356
Takstar Pro 82
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How long does it usually take for you to burn in a new pair of cans /hpg/? Just got some today but I feel the burn-in process will be awhile.
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>>64723956
An hour at most to get used to them.
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>>64723956
Just listen to them and if you dont like the way the sound on initial listen then more than likely it wont make much of a difference

>>64722934
Still waiting on an opinion I need an amp for when I actually buy the LCD-4s Will the burson Be sufficient to drive them
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Anyone ever heard of headroom before? Seems like everything they've ever made is discontinued.
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I just got some Takstar Pro 82s.

The treble is very clearly defined but also overwhelming. The bass also seems lacking. I'm not using a DAC/amp yet. Would that help? Wat do?
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>>64723974
the burson will drive them but it's rather overpriced
i would recommend the audio-gd NFB-1AMP, emotiva a-100 (using the jumpers for direct drive) or lake people rs02
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>>64724053
Are you getting a good seal? The earpads need to seal all the way around both ears
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>>64724053
Don't those headphones have physical adjustable bass ports?
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>>64724082
Really liking the way the Audio-GD looks also i don't care too much for the appearance of the E-motiva and the lake people looks ok but i dont like the 2 Quarter inch outs so between the burson and the Audio GD which is the better choice
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>>64724082
Also I dont know if upgrading the Dac im using will make a huge difference im using a Fiio D3 (D03K)
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>>64724161
Audio-GD is way better but ordering from them is a pain in the ass
also check the lake people rs08, it has the same specs but also an xlr out
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>>64724185
the topping D30 and OL DAC are cheap and transparent if you're not happy with your current DAC
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>>64724188
>Audio-GD is way better but ordering from them is a pain in the ass
Just need to e-mail them, it's not too much of a hassle
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>>64724128
They do, it helps with the bass though it does distort the sound somewhat. I'm more concerned about the treble.

>>64724116
I think so but I can check
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>>64724213
I dont have any Qualms with my Current Dac and yeah the rs08 still has 2 1/4th outs in anycase I like the way the Burson looks as I can easily put it next to my 1970s Sony Receiver and it blend in also I don't have a Balanced source so no need for the XLR out Whats an amp that keeps the Brushed ALuminum look that fits my needs?
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Just bought a pair of ATH-M40x, what can I do software-wise to use them to the best of their potential?
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>>64724269
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>>64724213
>>64724188
would this suit my needs ok the NFB-28.38 since single ended is less that 1W@200ohms

>>64724299
oh good how do i get it to be that way
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>>64724325
>how do i get it to be that way
e-mail them
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>>64724366
Just say I would like model xx.xx in all silver?
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what is a good dac/amp for K7XX and 4XX?
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>>64724476
Topping D30/OL Dac +02
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>>64723616
>These look like something up my ally. How do they handle surround sound? I'm mainly looking for a headset for gaming.
There is no actual surround sound in headphones. Some gaming headphones market this but this is a lie and it's a software simulation you can use in any headphones, and IMHO that software simulation is garbage because it degrades sound quality without actually giving you precise spatial location.
There are a few that claim to do it in hardware, but these are a lie too. Having 5 drivers per earcup instead of 1 does not make sound waves travel the way they do in a room when placed at a great distance from each other. And those headphones with multiple drivers sound even more like garbage (picture related, Asus Centurion measurements).

Headphones by virtue of their physics are stereo devices. You have drivers very close to your left and right ears and not much way to gain actual spatial information because the soudwaves simply do not travel in space.

Binaural recordings can achieve surround-like sound in headphones, but that requires a lot of work and tweaking on the specific recording to achieve that effect :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDTlvagjJA
I still haven't heard anything as impressive as the barber shop thing.
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Friendly reminder that most people in this thread are horribly misinformed about sources and haven't actually heard more than one, two at most.
Enjoy your o2's lol
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>>64724606
Who asked you?
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>>64724606
lol yeah enjoy your good, fairly-priced amp, FAGGOTS
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>>64724287
The only thing those headphones need is a pad and cable swap, they sound great no need for an eq.
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anyone here got heir audio before? looking at the 4.S in ears
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how should i clean the soft part of my benmeyers?
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>>64724735
Pretty sure that Plebspotter or someone else here has the 4.S. Stick around and I'm sure that they'll give you impressions, I know that whoever it was that has them really likes them.
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>>64722181
i currently have some mdr-xb50s that are starting go slowly (right ear sometimes dies). i assume for under ~$50, /csg/ stuff is my best bet? is there anything recommended that i could pick up locally?
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>>64724749
the only problem i have is they've been fuckin out of stock for weeks
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>>64724754
ordering the right chink shit would be your best bet
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>>64724754
nothing even worth listening to
Get some takstar pro 82 or m40x if you want to be a piece of shit and dont really even like music.
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>>64724834
>nothing even worth listening to
aw, don't be like that anon
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>>64724390
Sure, I would also attach that pic just to be sure they understand
Be aware that amp has a few quirks, watch the zeos review of it before buying
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>listen to aishiteru banzai from rin's solo album on SR507
>put on dynamic headphones
>become depressed that literally no dynamic headphone can ever compete
>tfw there will never be a portable closed back over ear which even comes close to matching STAX
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HD598 or K702? Quick please!
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>>64724765
>tfw the last time i ordered chink shit it took 3 months to get to me and i lost it within a week
i miss those piston 3s.

>>64724834
may just pick up some m6 pros depending on what i find over at /csg/
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>>64724631
Audiophools don't need to be invited, idiotfoolery is a religion and they are its preachers. Guy who designed the odac and i3 owned the very expensive and precise Benchmark DAC1, he knows what transparency is better than all the Schiit and tube apologists.
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O2*, damn autocorrect
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>>64713681
are there no people with long heads here
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>>64724950
HD579, else HD598.
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>>64722257
I'm with you, brother.
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>>64723305
That's not warm sounding at all...
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>>64725379
obviously
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are there any headphones that will give me a different or possibly even better experience than my speakers?
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>>64725467
HD600
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>>64722181
>Budget
200 Euro, flexible.

>Location
EU

>Source
Motherboard USB or motherboard 3.5mm jack.

>Type of headphone
Over-ear.

>Open or closed
Don't care.

>Comfort level
Comfy.

>Sound signature
Don't care.

I'm mainly looking for something durable, my last three pairs of headphones have start to fall apart in the foam department in about two years of use. Are any brands/models known for their durability or is it just something you have to live with?
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>>64725675
It's just something you have to live with. No headphones are breaking-proof.
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>>64725784
I don't expect them to be breaking-proof, but are there any that will last for longer than the ~two years I get out of gamer trash headphones? Ones that are easy to repair will also do.
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Just ordered the HD 6XX from massdrop
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>>64724299
Which Audio-gd is that? It looks sexy as fuck. I didn't know you can custom order in silver color.
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>>64725793
>Ones that are easy to repair
HD600
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>>64725388
I would hunt the original SR-Lambda (normal bias) if I want something warm.
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>>64726276
...okay? that'd be pretty dumb considering you'd be missing out on a limited edition.
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>>64724863
Is that the NFB 28.28? Since if I'm gonna use balanced I need a balanced Dac
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>>64722181
is there a site with anime feet fanart?
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>>64726480
Will this do?
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?utf8=%E2%9C%93&tags=feet+&ms=1
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>>64726632
bless your kind soul
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open headphones are a hack!
get speakers for better sound quality at the same price!
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Finally, the R70X has entered the family!
Haven't spent enough time with it yet to judge its sound, but I'm liking it. Enough bass response to make triphop enjoyable, enough treble to feel some bite. Build wise it's probably the best implementation of the AT wings system, it sits much more firmly on the head than the other cans I've tried.
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The cups are much tinier than I expected though, and while my ears are small and those headphones fit well enough, I would expect someone with bigger ears to feel a decent amount of discomfort. AT, why do this? you had the right sizes with the AD lines.
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>>64726220
>Motherboard audio
>HD600

That 200 Euro budget better have room for an amp then.
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>>64722181
Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?
And while at it, what's your best girl @lantica?
http://www.siliconera.com/2018/02/14/meet-girls-idolmaster-shiny-colors-new-idol-unit-lantica/
I claim Sakuya.
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>>64727089
There's no best girl in that lot.
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>>64726289
Hey dumbass, he said he wanted a warm set. If the L300LE isn't warm, it doesn't matter if it's a "LIMITED EDITION" or "1 of whogivesafuckhundred", because it's not what he's looking for.
Quit being a contrarian tool when people are looking for actual, legitimate advice.
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>>64727134
People who buy memephones just can't help themselves. That is, if they did buy the memephone. I smell NHA.
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>>64725675
Obvious HD600 recommendation for your template.
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finally got the cables for my LSR305, gotta admit those meme speakers are very good for the price.
gonna blast them a bit until my neighboors complain about it then I'll put them back in their boxes and wait for STAX
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>>64726126
>>64726404

Model is the NFB-1 AMP
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>>64722575
Delete this!
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>>64724936
Sigh, you sure know how to try and cajole me into buying the product.
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>>64725497
Shit-tier response, desu
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>>64726220
>HD 600
>Durable
Anon pls
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>>64728356
Yet correct answer.
Anon can then do his own research.
>>64728363
Some have had them for >10yr without even changing the pads.
Of course, all parts are available for replacement, which is a simple tool-free procedure.
http://headphonespares.sennheiser.co.uk/hifi-tv-headphones/hd-600-avantgarde
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>>64728363
>>64727209
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>>64728374
Anon, no bass and no treble is not a substitute for speakers. And drunkard plastic is not durable
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>>64728408
>HD600
>No bass
>No treble
Anon, have you ever heard HD600?
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>>64728420
Subjective listening is not a good indicator. Raw frequency response graphs tell me everything :^)
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>>64727361
more like you won't want your stax after getting used to lsr305s
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>>64728442
Great. Then it should be obvious that HD600 has all of bass, treble and midrange.
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>>64728456
:^^)
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>>64728448
Doubt it, unless he adds a subwoofer like the lsr310S.
The lsr305 have a hard cutoff under 43Hz. Good headphones extend far lower than that.
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>>64728456
>HD600 has all of bass
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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>>64728496
30Hz = 1KHz's level.
20Hz not far below that level.
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Ireland and Japan crafted
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>>64728507
I'm not seeing anything
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>>64728551
In layman's words, that's pretty damn good bass extension for an open headphone.
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>>64728561
No anon, I don't think you understand. I'm seeing shit all from your post
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>>64728578
neck yourself.
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>>64728593
No anon, I don't think YOU understand. There's literally shit-all (zero) behind your post to back any of that shit up
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>>64728561
Except that harman's research was right and measuring the same db at 30hz vs 1khz does not make your bass seem right in a headphone, rather, it makes your headphone bass-light. Even when I listen to very tiny speakers like the JBL Flip 4 (picture related, measurements of its predecessor the Flip 3) which are low power, battery powered, bluetooth and small, I feel more impactful, fun bass coming from them than from headphones in general. Despite the lack of power, and the hard rolloff of bass at 80hz, meaning they don't really have subbass. And if I had to rate which headphone feels closer to the ideal, the HD600 wouldn't even be among the top 5 mentions.
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When are we going to see electrostatic headphones affordable and widespread lads?
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>>64728622
>lads
Probably never, gen z. They are dead end tech for a reason.
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>>64728622
cheap electrostatic iems when?
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>>64726276

Good advice but these older Lambdas are becoming hard to procure these days.
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>>64728448
I own both LSR305 and SR-L700 Stax and prefer Stax.
Might get a sub for monitors later, but I also want to invest in passive speakers setup, so it's not a top priority at this moment.
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>>64728645
*High end tech too elite for the average consumer
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>>64728617
You can get headphones that do bass a little better than HD600, surely.
Generally at the expense of everything else.
Else, there's some planars at around $1k, which is not HD600 bucket anymore.
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>>64728674
>A little better
That's putting it lightly
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Opinions on the Superlux HD668B?
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>>64728622
Electrostatic have no chance on the mainstream market because people don't want to buy amps that only work with these. The mainstream market doesn't even want to buy amps in general which is why Sennheiser heavily marketed the lower impedance of the hd660s as a selling point over the hd600 (despite the fact that in the real world those headphones are like only 3db louder than the hd600 at equal amount of power. But I guess every extra DB helps when you have no amp).

The same happened with Beyer's marketing of Tesla drivers although in that case the marketing has been more truthful, Tesla Beyerdynamic really don't need much power to sing.
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>>64728374
>all parts are available
>ear pads
>Currently unavailable, stock on order
Useless
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>>64728646
Depends on if you consider $500 "cheap"
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>>64728720
Come clean, you ordered all the earpads just to make a point.
Sure enough they can be found elsewhere ;P
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>>64728703
681 is better
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>>64728674
>Generally at the expense of everything else.
HD600 and even the HD650 do midrange at the expense of everything else and musicality. On some recordings you can hear things like the sound of the contact of an electric guitar strings being hit by a plastic pick a tad too much. Audiophiles who listen to their equipment in itself rather than listen to the music might find that enjoyable, more normal people don't.
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Engrave this on my element y/n?
Also thanks to the anon that made this a couple weeks ago
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>>64729003
only thing worth engraving are anime girls
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>>64729003
Of all the things you could chose to engrave, you would engrave a memeface? Urgh. At least put a cute anime girl or some other nicer looking thing if you want to weeb it up,.
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>>64728912
Yeah HD650 are trash as a 'all-rounder' headphones. Sometimes they do they job very well with acoustic and vocal music but it's not worth it if you don't want to buy a second pair of headphones for other genres. Also they are very overpriced.
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>don't buy LSR305s because /g/ said they hiss
>buy HS7s instead
>THEY HISS
god I fucking hate this place
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>>64729076
Should have gotten swan m200 mk3
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>>64729076
the hissing is quite annoying but well, at least the sound's good
I guess every budget active speakers has the same noisy amp
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>>64728666
Nothing elite about it. Very old bullshit products that are difficult to make and have near zero support in the US.
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>>64729019
>>64729031
I can't think of who id engrave and i don't want to regret it later - while I appreciate all the waifu engravings I don't know that it's for me.
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>>64729100
Aye they do sound great but having to manually turn the speakers off when I work is getting quite annoying
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>>64729100
LSR sound good too.
While there can be a hiss on most lower priced active speakers, the amount of hissing and level of annoyance can vary depending on factors that aren't directly related to the speakers. Like how noisy the source you're feeding them with is (some motherboard lineout can be less than ideal), or whether you have a grounding problem or not. Grounding issues can magnify hissing to the high heavens and can cause issue even with high end gear. There are endless threads on the internet made by people who are tearing their hair off from trying to find a way to solve problematic ground loops, going around the home from an outlet to another and so on.
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>>64729164
It's certainly the speakers themselves, even with nothing but the power plugged in and them being turned on produce hiss
Working on isolating them from stuff on my desk but my old Edifiers had less static...
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>>64729117
Got favorite Idolm@ster or Love Live girl?
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>>64728912
>HD600 has no musicality
Said no one ever.
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>>64728715
Doesn't help that most of them sound quirky as well too.

Lower end STAX have that weird box shape that's not comfortable to wear in the long run and lack bass impact.
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Opinions on HD 579s?
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>>64729106
Lmao. Stay angry, dynacuck plebeian
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>>64722208
Sure.
>>64722353
>>64722373
i wish i had a pic of my spooky stand right now...
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>>64729198
what are you talkin about? That dude you quoted just did.
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>>64729241
no measurements, no deal
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>>64729271
?
HD579 measurements are available aplenty, and not hard to find.
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>>64729254
Dank gen z speak, champ
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>Budget
50 to 100 USD, 120 is absolute maximum
>Location
Czech Republic
>Source
Computer
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
very comfy, wearing it 4-14 hours a day
>Sound signature
not sure, I will use them mostly for gaming and listening to pretty hard music.
>Past headphones
Razer Kraken Pro

If they would survive more than two years without falling apart like Razer that would be amazing.
They also need to have microphone on them.
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>>64729278
>closed
Are you 100% sure, Anon?
Most people just say closed because they think open is odd.
Open actually offers much higher sound quality for the buck.
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>>64729278
HyperX Cloud is under $100 USD I believe
Will be much better than your Razers in terms of sounds quality
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>>64729196
I still need to finish the spin-offs desu
Have a lot of Sachiko though
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>>64729273
>not on IF
>not on rtings
>not on GE
>not on speakerphone
>not on seeko
>not on headphone.com
>not on SBAF
>not on 0db.co.kr
>available aplenty
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>>64729296
depends on the level of isolation he needs/wants

if he lives in a noisy complex or with noisy people then the open will suffer pretty dramatically from that
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>>64729296
I will be using them for in closed room but i dont know how loud they actually are to outside if I play some hard music
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>>64729326
http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/user-report.php?id=889&page=hp-sennheiser-hd-579
lrn2goog
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>>64729274
Amazing argument, my fellow anon!
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>>64722208
i'd like to know those jap album's names to listen to them can someone help?
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>>64729198
Have said a shitton of people when they call it boring, which is the most mainstream and polite way of calling them antimusical.
Some randomly googled excerpts from various different internet communities, some are about the HD650 but most of the rejection is equally valid on both the HD600 and 650 signatures :
>https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/43f2l7/hd600_very_boring/
>So, I'm stuck the dilemma of the HD600 being boring. Unlike the HE-6 which is very euphonic and addictive, the HD600 is just boring; I don't want to reach to it for listening. Even now, I don't care to put them on and listen to my favorite music.
>https://www.whathifi.com/forum/headphones-etc/i-think-i-have-found-most-boring-headphones
>I think I have found the most boring, uninspiring, dull, uninvolving headphones available on the market today. I was going to use them in my office but I think I will probably fall asleep if I do.
>https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/1123449-sennheiser-hd600-overrated.html
>I purchased Sennheiser HD600 headphones and am still waiting for the magic to happen sound wise. About 10 hours run in, they sound boring, flat lifeless highs and lacking in bass. They fit great, but I was/am expecting better sound more akin to Adam type crisp detailed sound. But tonally these are not even as good as my cheap pc speakers.
>http://www.just-hifi.com/Sennheiser-HD-600-Impressions-Thread_10478967-507.html
>I definitely find my HD600 boring with my O2 amp...what kind of amp could I look at ?
By the way this comment is one of the most popular way people get introduced to overpriced stupidly colored amps : the HD600's extremely antimusical nature pushed a ton of people into buying colored amps in the hope of making their headphone sound better, more than any other headphone ever did. There is no headphone community that's as heavily invested into tube amps and OTL as the HD600 community is.
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>>64729319
Sachiko a cute. A cute!!
>>64729342
>closed room
Realistically, nobody can hear your open from the outside, even at deafening levels.
Closed are for people in the same room within steps from you, and that's only considering you listen to music UNHEALTHY LOUD. Otherwise they could sit right next to you.
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I'm even willing to bet that 99% of all bottlehead crack buyers are building them for a HD600 or a HD650.
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>>64729363
>giant 11 dB treble spike
okay, they're fucking trash. avoid.
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>>64729383
Yet the HD600 is musical AF.
Probably these people aren't even trying to listen critically, and likely they also only listen to absolute garbage (i.e. worse than idols).
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>>64729379
from top left to bottom right
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Mondo Grosso - 何度でも新しく生まれる
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
Uchu Conbini - 染まる音を確認したら
supercell - Today is a Beautiful Day
Nujabes - Metaphorical Music
Demetori - 彼岸花葬 ~the view of spiral riverside~
Yoko Kanno - Zankyou no Terror OST
Animals as Leaders - Self-titled
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>>64729278
Look into massdrop x sennheiser pc37x
Don't know what theyd be to ship to you though
Have a becherovka for me
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>>64729397
I don't see a spike, it's a long progression.
For spike, look at DT990.
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>>64729418
>it's a long progression
yeah, the treble is enormously boosted across the region. must take a lot of effort to make headphones that shitty. beyers don't even come close to that level of ear rape.
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>>64729407
>No measurements
How about you stop giving advice
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>>64729398
>Probably these people aren't even trying to listen critically
When you listen critically all you can hear is the shouty midrange pushing the sort of details upfront that were not meant to be too noticeable and are not part of the music. Like the example I gave about the hitting of picks on electric guitar strings.
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>>64729442
Point being, it's not a peak, they just favor treble.
Note the FR of this:
http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/sennheiser-hd-599.php
They're almost identical, but the HD579 is way cheaper, thus the better choice.
>beyers don't even come close to that level of ear rape.
They're much worse, because they are peaky, with actual narrow yet high peaks in all their headphones. That's a lot of energy focused into a very small band.
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All ratings on sites for gaming headsets lead me to HyperX being the best.
What do you think guys? Are they the best for the price for gaming?
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>>64729478
That's an argument for MUD to cover all that unwanted detail. That's HD650 btw.
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>>64729485
They're surprisingly solid as they're literally proper headphones that have been painted
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>>64729445
Coming from a Razer headset I can't imagine measurements are the most important thing to him, while a fr graph would be nice I own them and they're hd558s with a mic, relax
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>>64729481
If I can get 99s for cheaper I should get those, right?
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>>64729512
No, as they're near identical yet reviewers all seem to prefer HD579.
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>>64729505
Nonsense. Measurements matter for everything in this general. Proof they're 558s? Unless if you have measurements, it's all just speculation
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>>64729505
>they're hd558s with a mic
No, they are not. Just changing pads can affect sound signature, so let's not even mention how much different enclosures and damping inside would make an headphone unrecognizable. The only thing in common they have is the driver, and while the driver is important it's only one part of what makes the sound.

Enclosure build and the sort of damping inside is what makes the difference between a DT880 and a DT990. Tremendous differences. You can love one of those two and hate the other.

With no measurements on the pc37x there's no way to judge them unless someone who owns a proper pair of headphone ends up buying them (unlikely) and at least makes a subjective comparison of them to a good pair.
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And while the DT880 and DT990 sound so different because of different enclosures and builds..

the HD 660s, which has a driver based on the HD700 (most hated sennheiser headphone ever), it still sounds more or less like a HD600. All because it uses the same type of build around said driver.
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>>64729481
>they just favor treble.
they favor it enough to call them bad headphones
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>>64729522
Any measurements comparing?
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>>64729538
Sorry, same drivers, you're right. A 5xx style with a mic would be more accurate.
Using my 558s all day and coming home using these listening to the same music there's no difference in my ears, but again since no measurements this is all anecdotal as my buddy >>64729534 said.
Now I want measurements
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>>64728804
>>>64728703 (You)
> 681 is better
better in what? better in breaking faster it seems.
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>>64728622
They were affordable with the 2170. Can't make them any cheaper without compromising the brand.
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>>64729712
Some obscure boutique company made a compromised cheap electrostat that's actually a dual driver headphone, that uses a dynamic driver for the bass region. Mitchell and Johnson GL2, $300 headphones, I haven't seen any reliable third party measurements about them and they probably don't sound that good, dual drivers doesn't inspire confidence.
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My Chiruno engraved o2 has arrived at Chicago, departed from Chicago, and then departed from (without arriving to) Narita. And no updates whatsoever for 5 days now. Is this common with shitty usps first class package? Dest is russia btw.
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>>64730004
>Dest is russia btw.
>usps
Good luck.
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If I want clear crisp sound with a little bit boom and noise cancellation for just gaming and casual music listening, what headphones work best for me? I'm willing to go up to $250. I'll likely buy an amp, too, if I require it.
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>>64730004
>>64730068
USPS will be handled by regular postal service after customs, he should be fine.
It is UPS, FedEx and DHL that are almost impossible to use in Russia (for regular customers, not companies)
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>>64730116
W/e the apple store has
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>>64730134
Pls nothing from Apple.
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For me it's the SHP9500s
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>>64730119
Glad i didn't pick UPS for $16 more then, was heavily considering it. Thanks.
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>>64730116
MSR7 are the least compromised closed back in that price range when it comes to sound quality IMHO. On the other hand, they also isolate a lot less well than your average closed back.. so I don't feel confident in recommending them if you prioritize noise isolation.
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>>64730236
At the moment, I suppose I want more sound quality and less about noise cancellation. Got anything in that ballpark?
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>>64730187
Hope you won't have to wait long.
Post your design and don't forget to post photos when it arrives.
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>>64730163
The trustiest of fucks
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>>64730116
If you can afford an amp, just stretch for HD600 instead.
If you're unsure about HD600, look up reviews. Youtube has a bunch, if you like video reviews.
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Looking for the best amp/dac. Nothing that colors the sound. Been looking at these two options:
Benchmark DAC3 HGC
Schiit Ragnarok and Yggdrasil
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>>64730566
Topping DX7 (or updated DX7s) seem good for high impedance headphones.
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>>64730525
Absolutely not what anon wants
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>>64730584
>Topping DX7
I'd ask /csg/ if I wanted something from China.
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>>64730004
>>64730297
It has just updated. /hpg/ magic, i guess.
OH, it's in California now.
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>>64730668
It went from Chicago to Tokyo and then back to California? This is why I never ship anything out of the US. It's fine to import but export is a nightmare.
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>>64730566
If "measurements" and inaudible transparency are your thing, definitely go for the Benchmark. Schiit is a waste of time.
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>>64730666
/csg/ is for cheap, bottom of the barrel china crap. The topping DX7 cost $400. That's more expensive than the typical MUHRICAN!FUCKYEAH! starter combo of schite crapy 2 and mughni 3.

Just because it's from China doesn't mean it's cheap, nor does it mean it's crap. You get what you pay for and yadda yadda.
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>>64730712
>nor does it mean it's crap
Actually the opposite. It means it's garbage.
>>64730696
Why's that?
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>>64730751
>It means it's garbage
Compare measurements for Bifrost and DX7 and decide for yourself.
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>>64730762
>Bifrost
Am I missing something? I thought the Yggdrasil was its own thing.
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>>64729522
Welp, I went for the 599s. Reading up on it a little myself the different sound seems to come down to taste and as I have only ever used cheap headphones I don't have taste.
They were also cheaper and come with a cable that's perfect for my setup, so that's a bit of money saved.
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>>64729403
thank you
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>>64730851
>599
Good choice. Only 1 less than HD600, the best headphones in the world.
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so speakers or headphones?
need for close desktop range movies/music/games all kinds of stuff
should be fun give u the "wow holy shit" not boring, i dont work with audio
for 500-1k euro
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>>64730962
Jecklin Float
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>>64730962
Speakers. Absolutely speakers. You are in the wrong thread, it's a thread mainly populated by headphone users who have never heard a decent pair of speakers.

You want something for a great variety of uses and want fun. You seem to live in a place where you can make noise since speakers are an option. Then get speakers.

Get a pair of LSR305, the LSR310S subwoofer and bookshelf speaker stands. You need to be able to chose a decent position in the room and height for them to sound good, and don't just put them on a desk if you want to avoid reflections.

Having a good subwoofer will give you that haha wow holy shit moment that nothing else could bring. Explosions in movies will pop your guts.
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>>64722208
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>>64730163
Good headphones.
>>64731070
Hello, D'Shakiraquan.
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>>64722208
setup pictured
waifu: tokizaki maya
album: ???
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>>64729003
I'm the Anon that made that edit. I printed it out afterwards and put it on top of my amp, and it makes me happy seeing it every day
>Engrave this on my element y/n?
y
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>>64731084
>Hello, D'Shakiraquan.
Hello, mein beloved Sennshill. Does the lack of bass make you so angry at any poster who owns headphones that can actually show some?
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to headpohnefags
do you guys not scared of Tinnitus ?
dont you think of your future if your ear fucked up and you have to hear this ringing voice forever ?
you woudnt be able to sleep, focus on your work even relax yourself

t. a guy with Tinnitus
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>>64731299
I already have tinnitus after someone tried to murder me
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>>64731299
1/ headphones do not cause tinnitus or hearing loss if you do not abuse the volume. Any exposure under 75~db is safe for continuous use (technically, 80db but it is better to give yourself some leeway as music has dynamics and peaks)
2/ You can get tinnitus for many other reasons beside abuse of musical equipment. I got mine because I goofed with firecrackers as a kid and one exploded close to my ears. I have had tinnitus since then.
3/ You can get used to tinnitus. I sleep and relax just fine. I can't even notice its existence when I listen to music or any background noise like a computer fan.
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>>64731299
I don't listen all that loudly and only use open headphones, should be fine.
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>>64731317
did you try to protect your headphones ?
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>>64731358
my headphones are fine
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>>64731065
Thanks nice for the response mate.
There was no speaker or audio general so i asked here.
Dont the lsr305 have annoying hiss though? Arent they meant to be studio monitors for professionals or can they be fun too? If studio monitors are fun too then ive also heard good stuff about some: adam, dynaudio, genelecs, neumann, kef but im not sure how they compare and which is best model.
Is the Millenium BS-500 nice enough stand? Dont wanna spend too much on stand.
Also should i consider floorstanding speakers at all for close desktop range or would that be a mistake?
Lastly, I live in an apartment with other people below and above me and you mentioned noise but im planning on not raising the volume would I still bother them cause of frequencies or whatever passing through walls?
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>>64731102 >>64729319
Great taste.
Try picking one @ >>64727089
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>>64730962
speakers ofc
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>>64731412
can you suggest some or where can i find some suggestions
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>>64731376
They do have a hiss but it's not that bad if you're not sitting 2cm away from the speaker while it's amped at 50%+ and you listening to nothing but silence.

Studio monitors are always better than audiophool HiFi gear. They aren't any less fun. Harman's blind tests showed that people, when not knowing the brand and cost of speakers, always picked the most neutral ones. Unlike the headphone neutrality debate, the speaker one has reached a real conclusion. Good speakers measure flat.
Genelec, Neumann and Kef have good stuff too, but the more interesting offerings are pricier. Getting the LSR305 pair with LSR310S subwoofer will cost you $700 already! the subwoofer actually costing more than the pair of speakers because getting good bass is not easy.
I have no particular bias toward any stand. Anything that can support the weight of your chosen speakers will do.
Good floorstanders are expensive. I don't think they're worth buying when your budget is under $1k, even more so if you are using them in a desktop/small room/office setting.
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>>64731420
no, sorry
only lsr305 meme because cheap and good
speaker market is much more complicated than headphones
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>>64731376
As for noise, it's going to be a problem. Bass in particular can travel very easily through walls. Can you hear your neighbor's music or tv? It all depends on how good the isolation is and how much you're going to crank the volume.
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>>64731420
>>64731479
yeah I want to add that if you will get a sub then buy or rent a measurment mic to make it sound right
otherwise it can cause more problems than it solves
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>>64731481
Eh, there's a lot of variety in speakers but some easy picks. Low budget? LSR305. Some more budget? KEF LS50 and a decent amp. It really starts to get murkier at higher budgets though. Not like I will ever buy multiple grands worth of speakers, that sort of high end is not for me.
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>>64723234
Anon this thing is a nightmare to get working. Are you willing to upload it?
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>>64731576
Sure, I'll upload it for you right now
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>>64731576
Not the same anon, but give me like 5mins and I'll get that uploaded somewhere.
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>>64731576
https://drive.google.com/open?id=19TEpfXf41BQdVBma5h6d0UctAniECS1H
There you go.
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is a prebuilt o2 amp with rca outs worth £140 or is that overpriced
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>>64731642
Overpriced if this is the amp only. Head 'n' Hifi sells those for 120€.
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>>64731479
>>64731481
>>64731501
>>64731520
the way i see it i just get better speakers and no sub for now
solves the problem with neighbors and no hiss
when i move i can add a sub later
so which genelecs and neumanns are good?
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>>64731479
I'm wondering, I just got my LSR305 and I like them very much but I have no idea how to position speakers, are there any recommended way to do it ?
I'd like to keep them on my desk but space is super restraining. I'd also need some stand to prevent them from making my desk vibrate but I have no idea what to look for.
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>>64731611
Thanks bud.
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>>64731409
Mamimi.
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>>64731676
Are you sure you want to get $1000 monitors instead of $200 monitors, $400 sub and a $400 room treatment fund? You always can sell LSRs and get some better monitors.
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>>64731676
Neumann kh120a
>>64731745
There are some ideal ways but they don't always conform to the needs and desires for a room setup. You want some space behind your speakers, not an excessive amount, but they shouldn't be glued to the wall. Nothing should be too close to their sides either.
They need a decent amount of distance from each other to create the right sweet spot of stereo imaging.
They shouldn't sit on a desk but on speaker stands. On a desk sound waves will reflect on the remaining desk surface in front of the speakers. Stands have only as much surface as needed to support the speakers and not more.

Ideally your desk (for a desktop setup) or sofa (for a tv setup) should be in the center of the room.

> I'd also need some stand to prevent them from making my desk vibrate but I have no idea what to look for.
Something whose width and length is enough to support the speaker but not too much to the point of extending far beyond the size of them.
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Whatis HD 58X and is it worth my money?
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>>64731837
Hmm.
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>>64731985
HD600 knockoff.
Probably based on the new shitty HD700-like drivers.
Avoid, and watch for developments.
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>>64731841
whats that room treatment thing?
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>>64731985
Get an HD6XX instead

>>64732001
(new?) 38mm drivers, last I heard
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>>64732020
Why not same graph but against HD600?
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>>64732011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp56A6TcL1E
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>>64732051
doesnt look too nice to live in
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>>64732087
it was an example
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>>64732001
They do use the hd700 drivers. The fact is, Sennheiser would never make a different driver for a limited edition mass drop headphone. All hd5xx use the same driver. At some point in their production the hd600 got the hd650 drivers too, the difference in sound is a difference in damping vs the hd650. Economy of scale rules. With the announcement of Sennheiser phasing out the hd650 for the 660s it's highly likely that the hd58x is an experiment for the hd600 successor, with massdrop consumers acting as beta testers.
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>>64732031
HD58X is crap either way
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>>64732020
Hd660s is also 38mm. It's the same driver.
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>>64732131
That's interesting. It's worse than HD600 indeed.
Now, the remaining interesting graph would be HD58x against the original jubilee, HD580, which later evolved into HD600.
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>>64732131
I've heard the currently show case units are not final and they were going to add some bass.
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>>64722181
Been using these things for almost 20 years. They don't last forever but they're only 16 bucks. I've got about 3 pairs laying around right now. I've never worn a more comfortable pair of headphones in my life. Anyone that says these aren't good enough is retarded,
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>>64732196
Koss makes the best cheap products I agree. I invested more into the hobby because I can but if I had been less wealthy I'd still enjoy music just as well on a KSC75, my favorite of all Koss.
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>>64732157
it isn't anything like the HD580
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>>64732359
>>64732359
>>64732359
New thread.
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>>64731611
>>64731590
>>64731588
Thank you anon + other anon that was also willing to upload it
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>>64731588
>>64732545
I don't know what this is but I'm downloading it anyways senpai




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