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/mkg/ - Soon Edition

>Buyer's template:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Use the buyer's template
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Group Buys
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nl3D0wIqf3tU43bu0mc0LSkxeh2CxGrchr_OViEjZ4c/htmlview
https://www.massdrop.com/
>Keyboard wiki
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Main_Page
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)

Last Thread >>66296720
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Just bought a Ducky Shine 6 with MX Silver switches. How bad did I mess up?
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Whoever just wrote in the last thread that " You can get the same keyboard with cherry MX switches in more color options and it ships way faster, but it costs 5 bucks more." please link
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>>66330969
Silvers are alright, but they take some getting used to since just looking at a key can cause it to register.
I like silvers quite a lot, but those first weeks will feel like trash.
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>>66330969
I think the shine 6 looks ugly which is why I went for the One instead
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>>66331045
here you go ;)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NiggerToungeMyAnus/32876634360.html
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Is $124 a good price to pay for an FC750R (w/ cherry clears)?
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>>66330969
Silvers are pretty garbage imo.
I have them on a keyboard right now, and I keep fucking pressing the wrong letter whenever I type. I'm unironically going to swap these out for blacks first chance I get.
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>>66331172
Same, but you do get used to it eventually.
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>>66331152
well that's what everyone is selling them for so I guess you don't have a choice
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>tfw typing on cherry mx switches
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How hard are green switches to come by?

I've never tried anything besides red or speed switches, not a fan of either, but from what's in the OP it looks like Green switches would be best for me.
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>>66331257
Ducky regularly sells them
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=1&switch=10&size=&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off&show_acc=on
if you want a 60% then there are a couple pok3rs
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>$300 for a fucking keyboard
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37175/topre-realforce-rgb-premium-gaming-keyboard
is this real life?
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>>66331327
Topre is overpriced, RGB just makes it more overpriced. What else is new?
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>>66331333
you want overpriced?
https://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823972001
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>>66331064
>>66331172
Oh no
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Is it possible to find box housings with black bases?
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>>66331327
Is that $300 USD or $300 emu bucks?
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>>66331327
A $150 is fine too.

Also remember the Optimus?
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>>66331353
>AUD
lol use a real currency next time
https://datamancer.com/product/the-seafarer-keyboard/
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>>66331353
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>>66331366
if you pay someone on reddit then yeah
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>>66331374
HAHAHAHHA
>$1,650.00
ahahahhahhahaHAHAHHEHAEHAHEHEHEHHEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>66331388
>under 2 grand
heh, what are ya? a poorfag?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-keyboard-model-3278-Beam-spring-vintage-also-on-cyrillic-Very-Rare/152986231150?hash=item239eb0a16e:g:8~YAAOSwDDxa1RF3
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>>66331403
Weren't these supposed to only be a few hundred? Goddamn nigga.
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>>66331416
>few hundred
good one poorfag, more like several thousand
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-keyboard-3278-model-2A-VERY-RARE/152980160472?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D44040%26meid%3D761aefb5820247f8bbbd8260d93eb1ac%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D152986231150%26itm%3D152980160472&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
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>>66331420
As in, I remember seeing 3278s go for "only" a few hundred on ebay a while ago. Is this just another case of all the plebs hearing about this board which drives up demand?
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>>66331354
Nigga switches are subjective anyway, you might end up loving them. I just hate the silvers because they actuate way, WAY to easily for me. Just wait until your board arrives and form your own opinion.
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>>66331440
it must've been in pretty bad shape to go for a few hundred, that retarded has been trying to sell them for months at that price, the average selling price for those keyboards is around 800 bucks
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>>66331420
>not even in english or good condition
what the fuck
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Is it normal for the spacebar to be wobbly on an 89 Model M? Every key is sturdy but the apace bar.
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>>66331448
True, I mean it is my first board. I’ll probably be happy with it.
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>>66331482
That's normal on nearly every keyboard I've used.
I don't like it either.
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>>66331482
looks pretty normal for all keys on models m and f

every picture of them online shows wobbly, misaligned keys
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What modern keyswitch feels the most like buckling spring?

Only looking to hear from fellow Whites. Please do not reply to this post if you are not White
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>>66332085
MX clears or MX blues from Cherry. Probably clears. I have no experience outside of cherry.
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>>66332085
Box navy, probably.
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>>66332085
Honestly there really isn't any switch that can replicate the feel of buckling springs. the closest I'v tried was the kailh clickbar switches
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>Budget
$250
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Heavier than MX reds and clicky
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
TKL
>Backlight
RGB backlight or underglow would be cool
>Previous/current keyboards
Ducky Shine 5 (Cherry Red), Model M
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>>66332127
I'm using MX blues right now and I can tell you they're a lot scratchier than buckling spring

>>66332130
hmm
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>>66331092
>tounge
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>>66332638
It's so sad when people spend enough to get a mechanical keyboard but still can't spell
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>>66330945
How good is the WASD v2? Is there reason to change from G6v2?
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Are buckling springs a meme?

are they slower than MX blues to reset? (for gaming)

looking to buy a Unicomp keyboard wondering if anyone has any experience with them
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>>66331420
I think most people would think that price is a bit outrageous. If you're fortunate enough to be able to afford that price, that's a blessing and it would be classier to refrain from calling everyone a poorfag.

Not everyone is lucky enough to be born with a silver spoon in their mouth.

A little humility goes a long way.
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>>66334096
t. poorfag
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Just got into mechkeyboards and whoever you guys are on those discord channels, you guys need to have some form of reminder that ya’ll taking keyboards way to seriously. The amount of autism I have to endure just to get some answers is unbearable. Jesus fucking christ you guys are worse than audiophiles.
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Why do people spend a lot on mechanical keyboards instead of buying a good old model m for cheap?
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>>66334923
Here's a simple solution: stop using Discord
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>>66333896
No but "Are * a meme" is a meme.

Buckling springs aren't suitable for gaming unless you are into text adventure games. Not that I judge but...
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>>66334917
Oh look it the faggot that signs all of his shit posts and break global rule 13 on the regular.

Again, I'm sorry you were banned from reddit but were anonymous here snowflake.
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>>66334938

T. Autistic keeb discord user
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>>66334962

>getting this mad on a mongolian chopstick board

You don’t know where you are, do you?
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>>66335162
Doesn't matter you're breaking global rule 13 when you sign your posts. You'll eventually be dealt with. Keep it up snowflake.
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bought a ducky shine 3 mx blues used off ebay for $40 usd + $50 shipping
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>>66335195
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>>66335206
good or bad
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>>66335224
needs new keycaps, those are shiny as fuck
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>>66335128
>shit on Discord
>get called a Discord user
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Why does datamancer sell $1700 screens?

There's not even info about the performance of the panel.
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>oh neat there's a drop for halo switches
>estimated ship date is September 8, 2018
imagine if massdrop wasn't garbage
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>>66334938
Try using the irc, there is no official mkg discord, so you were probably talking to random people.
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I want a quiet meh that doesn't feel like shit and is actually quiet. Is the fnatic/ zealencio meme actually worth it?
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>>66334937
>membrane keyboard
>good
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>>66335775
You are retarded. Membrane does not automatically equal rubberdome nor does it automatically mean shit. There is a reason why IBM MODEL M keyboards are among the best out there.
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>>66332313
KBD75 with Box whites
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>>66335805
I didn't realize buckling spring was considered membrane.
>model M
I feel like I'm learning
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>>66335805
>is this what membranefags believe
the model M is a pretty bad keyboard
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>>66335805
>among the best
enjoy your broken rivets, failing membranes, 2kro, and difficult to repair construction
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Should I get in on the Novelias preorder for my Planck build?
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>>66336888
I don't see why not. They're the same price as royals, so if you want a heavier spring, go for it.
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>>66336888
Are you me? Pre-ordered the Planck 6 thinking about getting these switches but they don't ship until what September or so? I need to find something in the meantime but don't want to spend too much, since I still need keycaps as well.
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What does /g/ think about this one?

https://www.amazon.de/Lioncast-mechanische-Tenkeyless-deutsches-QWERTZ-Layout/dp/B00NMKU2Q2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528909339&sr=8-1&keywords=CM+Storm+Quickfire+Rapid
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What's up with the Massdrop Halo Switches? Are they actually anything like topre?
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>>66337833
not even close
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>>66337833
To this day I do not know why IC has been shilling them like that.
They're decent switches, especially the clears, but they are nothing like topre outside of having a similar force curve.
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>>66337571
>Eur over 50,00
>$8000 cad

I can't even tell what's special about this thing because you linked the .de product, but this is a massive ripoff.
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Alriiight, here we go!

I haven't tried typing on these yet, just tested in my hand. With that in mind here are my thoughts:

>Aliaz
They're really heavy. I am certain I ordered 60g but they are very similar to box navies, so they probably sent me something like 80g. Which is a shame, because the bump is relatively light - I've heard them called silenced gat browns - and with the 80g spring, it's almost unnoticeable. In fact, it feels kinda meh because it's still there, but barely noticeable, so the best way I can describe it is that it "gets in the way" more than it gives a feeling of tactility. I'm definitely gonna ask kbdfans what's up with that - I'm not gonna bother buying another batch, but if they're kind enough to offer a refund or something they I might.

>Box Royal
Very, very strikingly similar to my Matias QC actually! The tactile peak is reached very suddenly, resulting in a "plateau" that collapses once you get past it and lets you smoothly bottom out. Definitely a matter of taste, and also the comparison and talk about heavier versions now makes me want to stick heavier springs into my Matias board. Is that possible? Because I feel like it would be a notable improvement.

>Zealios 67g
They're old news but I thought I'd give my two cents anyways: they really are very tactile, but in a gradual way - unlike Box Royals and Matias QC, the tactility builds up gradually up to the peak, and past it the spring is heavy enough to also mark a notable gradient until bottom-out. Unfortunately I don't have Cherry Clears to compare them to. I think I'd still prefer my Matias with a heavier spring, though.
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>>66338337
And now looking at it I realize how fucking shitty everything about my photo is. Sorry. It gets the point across though.
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thought on the better omron switches that Kailh came up with. It looks like romer-g has a better stem design to allow for more light to shine through, but that severely limits keycaps compatibility. I think this is a nice middle ground
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>>66338110
>>66337989
What's the feel like then? Do they pop back up like topre? Is it just a smoother tactility? What's the advantage of these over something like Zeal?
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I'm confused by all these tactile switches out on the market. Who's the king at this point? There's MX clears, Gateron, Zealios, MOD, and like ten different variations from Novelkeys with the navy switches and their variants.
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my chink shit tada68 is starting to die already
only had it for like half a year and keys are already dying
noticed the W key not registering every time i pressed it and spammed it and found it failing like 5-10 times / 100

im impatient might just go grab some shit from bestbuy -_-

unless somebody here can help me fix it
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>>66338567
What switches? Try cleaning that one, or replacing it.
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>>66338579
gateron browns
imma try taking it apart and just giving it a clean
i dont wanna bust out the soldering iron
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>>66338457
The trues are basically linear springs that ramp up weight much faster than any other linear springs.
The clears on the other hand are basically MX clears but smoother and with a more drawn-out bump than MX clears.
The advantage over Zealios is the same as using any kind of non-zealios switches (outside of the fact that zealios are heavily overpriced): personal preference.
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>>66338620
just shoot it with some compressed air
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>>66338555
There is no best, it's personal preference. "Tactility" isn't a single thing. There are many kinds of tactility.
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>>66338662
didnt work
time to go buy a new keyboard -_-
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>>66339133
Just replace the fucking switch you mong
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>>66338555

Holy pandas if you got the dosh. Rest is preference.
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>>66339339
Is there even a force curve graph for those? I wonder if there's any merit to those besides "muh rarity".
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>>66339356
There is, just know that the force curve doesn't always give you a good idea of how the switch will feel. Take the halo switches for example
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>>66339412
>long drawn out bump
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Maybe the same people who like this also prefer topre switches?
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>>66339133
>I'm afraid to solder so I'm going to go buy a new keyboard
Waste of money
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>>66335824
The model M is a membrane keyboard. It's a membrane sheet being pressed by a buckling spring mechanism, making it quite similar to the "mem-chanical" keyboards gaming companies push now in concept.
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>>66330945
i want to mod my keyboard for fun, thinking of using kailh white switches. Does using pale blue switches for the modifiers sound good or is using multiple switches on a single board a bad idea?
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>>66332638
>tounging
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where the fuck do i get modern beamsprings by themselves? i don't want to ruin a perfectly good IBM keyboard just to get the beamsprings. is there any manufacturers that make beamsprings?
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>>66338337
how about your box jade? i got them myself but it's still lying untouched because ydble haven't delivered.
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>>66340314
no
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>>66332085
Definitely Box Navies
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I finally got a MagicForce 68 with gateron browns.

Even if it is some entry level mech, it's fucking orgasmic compared to my old logitech k120.

I'm glad I fell for this meme.
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>>66340314
Unicomp
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>>66340323
I really like the tactility and clickiness. It's probably the closest you can get to stuff like buckling springs in an MX form factor. Somehow with clicky switches I'm much less likely to bottom out so I don't mind the lighter spring. Navies, while nice and satisfying to smash down, feel far too heavy to press 8-9 times per second (that assumes around 95-100 wpm and an average of 5 characters per word, and doesn't count spaces because fuck thumbs anyway) - so the Jades are better in my opinion.

Also worth noting that because there's a "reverse click" as the switch comes back up past the clickbar, these are one type of switches which is objectively bad for gaming.
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>>66340454
since when did unicomp make beamsprings?
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>>66335269
But it's a ducky shine
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I really like my leopold but wish it had more fn shortcuts
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>>66337236
Haha, were you thinking of getting in on the XDA Canvas drop also?
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>>66340758
Fuck you, you are me!
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>>66331235
unironically kys
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>>66338567
If you bought it from kbdfans send them an email. They will replace it if it's under a year old.
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>>66340895
found the shill
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>>66340931
I haven't used mx switches for a while (and will never go back), but you're just such an annoying, useless cunt and I feel the world would be better off without you.
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>>66340954
nice try shill
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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-mito-canvas-ctrl-mechanical-keyboard
wtf
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>>66340954
>Yes goy, forget your mxs and buy a topre board
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Topre switches are somewhat tiring after a while, paid $300+ for my HHKB Pro 2 and kinda regret it.
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Are there any other rune keysets besides XDA canvas? Specifically perhaps an SA or DSA one?
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>>66341587
yes
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>>66341610
Please gib
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>>66341657
https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/021cape01gr
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>>66341719
That's not quite what I meant by a rune keyset

I honestly really wanna buy canvas. It's PBT too, not premium ABS. But it's not a sound financial decision since I'm also going to be raped by import taxes. Talk me out of it /mkg/
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>>66341768
>Talk me out of it /mkg/
XDA is too thin, and the top of the keycaps are too flat.
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>>66341768
then just get a used DSA elven tongue set from reddit
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>>66341781
>>66341782
So you'd say DSA is better than XDA? I'm not surprised, and I'll keep that in mind, thanks
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>>66341768
get a chink set instead since they can say it cost way less then what you paid for it
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/npkc-dsa-keycap-dye-subbed-Elf-letters-for-mechanical-keyboard-110/32862011003.html
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1. Did you try out the HHKB before you bought it?
2. Do you regret your purchase?
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>>66341854
Shit nice, this would be perfect if only it didn't have Latin letters on it. Ffs. I guess I'll hunt around some more.
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>>66341918
>1. Did you try out the HHKB before you bought it?
yes, and it felt like mushy crap so I never bothered with it
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Is 40% usable generally?
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>>66341950
yes, even 30% is usable
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>>66341950
Anything less than 60% is retarded.
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>>66341950
>>66341962
>>66341964
it hurts me hands :(
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>>66342001
Get an ergo board then m8.
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>>66342006
the board is fine the cat attacks me if i try to use it though.
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>>66341950
personally, no

65% is the lowest i can go, tried a 40% and a 30% and they both sucked
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>>66342001
do you even autism?
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>>66340469
They don't. Beamsprings have to be found from IBMs early keyboards. I have never seen anyone take beamsprings out of one keyboard to use in another. People just use the beamspring keyboard as it is.
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>>66341950
If you're actively typing or coding, very.

If you're using something that requires a bunch of keyboard shortcuts, those kinds of things tend to assume you have easy access to a number row and an F row, so you're gonna have a bad time unless you remap things in that software. And by this I mean games, stuff like Blender, and even most browsers which require you to press F keys for handy stuff.

If you use vim keybindings in everything then you literally don't need more than 40%.
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I've got ducky one led for a month, it's great, but today I noticed that pressing right control once registers as two clicks. When I keep it down it also registers as two clicks and then nothing.
Is there a way to fix this?
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>>66342530
replace the faulty switch
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>>66342546
Is this common? What could be the cause?
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>>66342648
Just a faulty switch, it happens more often that you would think.
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>>66342001
Planning to get a minvan PCB, but I'm having trouble decinding on the switches. I hate cherry-style switches, and I do not want linear or clicky. Other than being loud as fuck, I really like the proper white alps in my old focus-2000. Is it a good idea to try Matias silent tactical switches?
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>>66342722
As long as you aren't planning on buying a custom keyset within the next year, yes.
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>>66342743
Na, don't really care for the looks of the keycaps at all. Is there some shortage of custom flashy ones?
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>>66342546
Do I have to desolder switch and solder a new one? I have no experience with soldering
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Is there such a thing as a PCB in this layout that is remappable?
I really love this layout, but the stock Leopolds don't have reprogrammability, which really sucks. The only one I could find is on KBDfans, but it has an awkward button after f12 that I don't want.
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>>66342760
>Is there some shortage of custom flashy ones?
Only for alps, no one seems to want to make alps switch caps despite the fact that matias switches are very well liked.

>>66342771
Yes, but it's really not hard. Buy a cheap soldering iron + solder sucker off Amazon and some 60-40 resin solder then look up a guide.
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>>66342783
Yes, it's called "hand wire to an Arduino or Teensy".
Alternatively you can order custom PCBs, for a price.

Other than that probably not
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>>66342783
buy leopold fc980c, replace controller with programmable one from hasu
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>>66330945
Hot diggity damn I can't wait until my kishsaver reproduction comes in.
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>>66340314
Why do you want just the beamsprings?
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>>66340898
got it from aliexpress
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>>66342783
https://geek hack org/index.php?topic=95444.0
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>>66342813
I want it with cherrys though, and the cherry version has the controller on the PCB.

>>66342805
Fuck. I guess that's how it is if you want to have a special snowflake board.
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>>66342859
This would be perfect, too bad he's not planning production.
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>>66340423
I literally have a logitech k120 and I am considering falling for this meme. Considering getting the Magicforce 68 with blues, how do you feel with yours? Also how do you feel about it being tenkeyless?
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Loved everything about the GK64 but after 9 months it's starting to double type occasionally, enough to notice it but not enough to impede my typing. Not sure if the keyboard's toast or if I can fix it by replacing something.
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>>66342845
>>66340898
oh and its over a year old

ill have to look into the warranty
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>>66342783
TXCP if you have the money
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>>66343324
>reading comprehension
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>>66343335
yeah it has a 1800 layout like what he wanted, so what's the problem?
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>>66343358
>The only one I could find is on KBDfans, but it has an awkward button after f12 that I don't want.
The TX-CP also has an extra key next to F12.
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>>66343380
so that's what your bad sentence meant. it made it sound like you didn't like the placement of the delete button. you should've just said that you want an 1800 style keyboard without a key next to f12, instead of an awkwardly placed button next to f12
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>>66343422
I'm not that guy, I just have basic reasoning and reading comprehension skills, unlike you.
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>>66343435
well then the TX-CP is still the right keyboard for him
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>>66342783
if you already have a leopold why not print a PCB, you can find services online that could do it for 30-40 bucks
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>>66342829
sorry, the beamspring (((switch))).
they feel fucking amazing and i really enjoy the loud clack they make.
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>anon brings his mechanical keyboard to the office
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>>66343667
heh nothing personal kid
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>>66343667
>being a wageslave office cuck
>when you could be a glorious at-home programmer who never goes outside while making big bucks
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>>66343667
>anon brings his mechanical 60% and trackball to the office
>literally can't do anything in a timely fashion
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>>66343667
>Working in an office
>Not working remotely
shygddt
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>a zealios switch testing kit is $15

The profit margins of this industry are crazy. There's two different kits for regular Zealios and then Zilents. Are they similar save for the quieter sound? I really don't want to spend $30 on like 10 different keyboard switches.
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Reminder that using anything smaller than 65% is gimping yourself for no reason
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>>66343721
too bad i shitpost on 4chan for a living so a 35% keyboard is all what I need
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>>66343716
Zilents are literally zealios with a blue stem and rubber dampeners at the bottom. Zilents are the quietest switch I've ever sampled, but they still cost more than just making ergo clears and putting a rubber dampener at the bottom of each housing.
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>>66343721
>he doesn't use a 57% kb
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>>66343755
I actually use a 81% kb
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>>66330945
Just wanted to bop into the thread to remind everyone that once you try topre you never go back, nothing makes quite as satisfying of a noise, have a tactile feel and have sliders as smooth as butter. Gritty cherry-lets will never know.
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>>66330945
Is the Logitech G610 any good?
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>>66343768
Jokes on you, I use hall-effect linear which are twice as good as overpriced rubberdomes :^)
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>>66343768
On the contrary, I tried a friend's HHKB for like 5 minutes and thought that they felt like perfected rubber domes. I wouldn't value them higher or lower than Cherry MX designs. Definitely overpriced.
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>>66343768
I too enjoy having a keyboard that farts every time I press a key. There's really nothing like the noise of rapidly escaping air from a confined space.
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>>66343827
I wish I wasn't at work so I could post the most golden goldlel that I have ever saved.
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>>66343678
You are already dead: https://youtu.be/hK2cnxXauls?t=41
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>>66343772
no
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Lads I'm thinking of trying a new linear meme.
I can't decide between trying the wooting one or the apt hall effect tkl.
Anyone have experience with these?
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>>66344075
>apt
well if you're a moral fag then maybe don't get one, that and they still have their problems. Wooting seems overpriced and I don't really see the benifits besides maybe racing games, and even then it's better to just get a racing wheel. If you wanna fall for the linear memes get a "new old" wyse keyboard with vintage blacks for like 20 bucks
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>>66343827
no topre board i've had has ever done this
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>>66344115
>well if you're a moral fag then maybe don't get one
I'm not really, I know all about the story there. The dude that liscensed them as a manufacturer should have seen this coming, wouldn't be suprised if he gave them the patent and is just pulling drama now that he's realized what he's done. I know they still have some big issues, but a modern hall effect keyboard sounds like it would be a fun gimmick to try.
The wooting interests me just because analog input for games sounds neat, even if most games wouldn't see much of a difference, and it's only $30 more than a TKL Cherry Leopold (not including shipping). I'd grab a Wyse with vintage blacks, but I already have a board with lubed box blacks, and I don't feel as though it would be different enough.
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>Budget
60$
>Location
Philippines
>Preferred switch type
I can't have something noisy, so maybe brown or red?
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
TKL
>Backlight
Not needed
>Previous/current keyboards
Normal laptop keyboard so babby's first mech
I've been looking at Tecware Phantom and Redragon keyboards with outemu switches since they're dirt cheap (<40$). Are these okay, or do I just buy a cheapo membrane keyboard?
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>>66345042
Just get a magicforce 82
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>>66343667
>it's quieter than a rubber dome
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>>66343071
No, it's like turning gay. Son, you need a Logitech k375s.
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>>66343678
I'm just wondering why it has metal fins between the main, and special function and numpad keys.
In case this 30 lb. steel keyboard turned upside down?

Looks like the "I" key got fapped on by grandpa.
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>>66341918
>Did you try out the HHKB before you bought it?
No
>Do you regret your purchase?
Not in the slightest
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Who cares if the letters on a keyboard fade.
You don't need RGB backlighting.
Colored key caps serve no purpose.
One keyboard is enough.
You only have 2 hands.
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>>66347786
Wrong on all counts
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is ortho a meme or is it actually good?
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>>66341918
1. no
2. absolutely not
proud owner of a type s now(sold my normal HHKB for it), 30g JIS, and 55g realforce
ill say the normal HHKB has the best feel out of all the topre switches
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>>66348419
forgot to mention
encouraged my friend to buy a 45g realforce and HHKB > realforce
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What is the best linear switch ?
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>>66348487
Hall effects
Alps green
Vintage or box blacks
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>>66348487
honeywell hall effect
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Considering getting a cherry mx brown switches keyboard, what do I get? have filco in mind
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>>66348568
Filco or on a budget: Cherry MX Board.

Remember however that MX switches are too mainstream and won't get you recognition in the hipster scene.
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>>66348607
I have a Corsair K70 mx browns and I enjoyed it a lot, but the board isn't solid. I got me a HHK Pro 2 3 days ago and it's somewhat ehhh, I fell for the hype I guess.. although still using it but it's definitely not what I expected.

What are my other options beside cherry mx browns?
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>>66348648
The Cherry MX Board 3.0 feels a bit cheap, the keys fade, but the switches work fine even after years of abuse, rolling tobacco and smoking. I'd still recommend it.
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>>66348648
I am curious if there's any difference in solidity if I were to pick the tenkeyless Filco over the one with numpad?
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>>66348648
The K70 is extremely solid though. It's mostly metal.
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>>66340931
Congratulations, you managed to finally get a response after spamming this for the past 5+ threads so now you can call him a shill.
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>>66349026
Only the plate is metal. Even most chink keyboards have a metal plates now
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>>66334923
Welcome to the internet.
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>>66349048
And that plate is oversized and covers the entire keyboard. I have a k70 in the closet, there's absolutely no flex to it.
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My roswell's backspace spontaneously stopped working after drying off a spill; am i totally fucked or can I get it back?
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>>66334923
Is there even a /mkg/ discord?
Link please
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>>66349066
open the board, check for PCB damage, clean the switch, replace the switch.
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>>66349065
It only covers the top part and a bit of the sides. That's not much, even brands like Ducky, Filco, and Leopold have steel inner construction unlike the flimsy aluminum corsair uses.
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>>66330945
Absolutely disgusting
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>>66335805
you selling one on ebay I suppose
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>>66349085
Who gives a shit what kind of metal it is if it doesn't flex?
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>>66349070
I can try, but the screws are really in there like it's a vault meant to seal away an ancient evil. wish me luck anons
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>>66349104
>keyboards with much better build quality and cheaper pricing
>lmao who cares I want that gaymer aesthetic
Nice try shill
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>>66349230
I use an ergodox retard. I'm not saying corsair's boards are worth the price. They're not. I'm saying they're not "flimsy" because they're objectively not.
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>>66349258
the argument was never that they were flimsy, it was that the metal plate they used was nothing special since cheaper and more obscure brands have similar or better build quality.
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>>66349272
The argument began in >>66348648. The claim was that the K70 is not a solid board. It is a solid board. It does not flex easily.
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>>66349280
It's not a solid board though. The keycaps are ABS and the little feet they use suck
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>>66349104
>plastic bottom with 1.5mm aluminium plate
>doesn't flex
Yeah and I've got a set of ABS keycaps that don't shine
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>>66349297
>deflecting this hard
>keycaps and feet having anything to do with how solid a board is and how much flex it has
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>>66349312
Bruh, even chyrosran said it barely has any flex to it.
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>>66349313
>flex is the only way to measure how solid a keyboard is
no
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Ayy. I'm looking at building my first keyboard. Ideally I'd like a fully programmable/remappable 61 key 60% board with per-key RGB lighting. Unless someone knows something I don't (likely) the GK64 seems to get the closest to checking all of those boxes and the hot swapability is just icing. Does anyone have experience with this board? Any alternative suggestions? Any feedback is appreciated.
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>>66349280
The solidity matters a lot, the sound and the feel changes. If anyone owns a K70 they should try putting a blanket or a notebook under it, the results are amazing. It will feel much more solid, significant sound change.
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>>66349330
It is firm and stable. It contains relatively little empty space, since there's no top case. What kind of meme is this?
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>>66349360
The keycaps are not firm and are almost hollow, especially when compared to the thick PBT on Leopold and Ducky keyboards. There's more to a keyboard then just the top plate
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>>66349382
Nigga, who gives a shit about the keycaps? We're talking about the board. Keyboards and keycaps are separate things. Do you unironically use stock keycaps on any board? You're deflecting so hard here. The keyboard is solid. The keycaps are not the keyboard. You know you're allowed to admit you said something dumb, right? You can always just stop responding.
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>>66349407
Even if you don't count the keycaps that doesn't change the fact that the entire bottom part of the keyboard is plastic and flimsy. You can get Vortex, Varmilo, and now even Ducky keyboards with all metal case construction for a similar price. Those keyboards are solid, corsair isn't.
Also keycaps the stock keycaps most definitely count as part of the keyboard, stop moving the goal posts.
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>>66349445
>the entire bottom part of the keyboard is plastic and flimsy.
And? It doesn't flex. It's solid. Other keyboards may be more solid, but that does not make this keyboard not solid.

>You can get Vortex, Varmilo, and now even Ducky keyboards with all metal case construction for a similar price
You absolutely can. As I said, the K70 is an extremely overpriced keyboard. It's not even a good keyboard. The software is shit, the backlighting is dim as hell, and the cable is retarded.

>Those keyboards are solid, corsair isn't.
Fallacy.

>Also keycaps the stock keycaps most definitely count as part of the keyboard
They don't.

>stop moving the goal posts.
I'm not. The claim was that the k70 is not a solid keyboard. I have done nothing but continue to counter that claim.
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>>66349445
if you remove the keycaps you still have a keyboard
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>>66349468
>This corsair keyboard has flimsy parts, but the top plate doesn't flex so now the entire keyboard is solid
that's not how it works. how solid a keyboard is depends on the entire construction of the keyboard.
>They keycaps don't count, just buy better ones
um, no sweetie telling people to spend even more money to get better keyboard just proves that corsair makes flimsy keyboards. A solid keyboard already comes with some of the best keycaps you can buy like the doubleshot PBT on Ducky and Leopold keyboards.
>I'm not
I hope you're just being silly for the (You)s
>Do you unironically use stock keycaps on any board?
^that statement right there is moving the goalposts
You have done nothing to refute my claim, you just keep going on about muh top plate causes no flex, and ignore that there is more to a keyboard then just that.
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>>66349549
Please explain how keycaps affect the firmness, rigidity, and stability of the keyboard (the definition of solid). I'll wait.
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is there a good keycap set that is cheap (30ish dollars tops maybe) and isn't crap? i want to change the stock ones on my tada68 but i dont want a downgrade
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>>66349583
see
>>66349360
the keycaps are hollow and mostly empty unlike the thicker ones most brands now use, therefor it's not solid as them.
Several years ago corsair made some of the best keyboards you can buy and if you wanted a solid keyboard I'd have recommended one, but now the industry has advanced a lot and corsair is left making sub par flimsy keyboards instead of the solid ones they used to make
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>>66349617
Literally all keycaps are mostly hollow.
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>>66349653
>Literally all cheap keycaps are mostly hollow.
fixed it for you
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Not any of you faggots arguing about the k70 but when I hear "solid" to describe something I think of and overall description of the product not being bad. Like "I think this game it was solid, I would recommend it". I don't think about it it has flex.
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>average keyboard """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""enthusiast""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" buypig
your kind makes me sick
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>>66349875
Thanks to my third world internet the image slowly loaded from top to bottom. I thought it was just another korean custom from reddit with cringey artisans, but then that switch loaded in and I just lost it.
Also make sure to subscribe to my blog
>>>/g/mkg
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>>66349875
T-that reflection is a shop, r-right
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>>66349875
based soi boy poster calling out retards
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>>66349875
dogs. they deserve to die, all. and they will.
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Anyone else prefer keys to have some resistance at the very top?
Only buckling springs and rubber domes seem to feel like that.
Why are topre keys so dang pricey?
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>>66349977
get box clickbar switches then
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>>66349993
Kailh sound even worse than MX switches. I have to be able to be in the room with them when I'm using the keyboard.
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>>66331388
I have to admit it looks beautiful
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How do I get the legends off my top printed pbt caps? Nail polish remover didn't work, nor did alcohol.
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so I was planning on buying an mx brown ducky one but it has a large shift key and I prefer a small one

stumbled into Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS in the same price range, how's that one?
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>>66350968
it really doesn't you piece of filth
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>>66350968
not really. it looks like something a saudi prince would buy
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>>66350980
are they double-shot, dye-sub, laser etched, or pad-printed?
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>>66351005
saudi princes prefer marble/gold tacky etc, that looks more like the kind of thing a fat egg man would waste his limited funds on
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>>66351017
there's a saudi prince who loves classical European design which that keyboards seem to be tailored for him
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>>66351051
that doesn't look anything like classical european design, it looks like a movie prop for a kids pirate movie
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>>66351071
then it's perfect for a saudi prince
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>>66351092
not really, no. saudi princes prefer marble/gold tacky etc
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>>66351118
well we know someone in the middle east has bought at least one
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>>66351014
I believe they're pad printed. Here's a link.

https://www.amazon.ca/Customized-Printed-Switches-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B071JLXVQ3/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1528998506&sr=8-4&keywords=ymdk+keycaps
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How much do limited run keycap sets usually go for on secondhand markets? If I decide to go full retard and spend $150 on keycaps, can I expect to at least some out with minimal loss if I regret it down the line (or perhaps even some profit)?
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>>66351309
expect a major loss, second hand keycaps are not easily sold
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>>66351240
they're laser etched so you need to sand down the top of the keycaps
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>>66351309
it depends really. 7-Bits keycaps can sell for double what you bought them for, while others like most of the GMK sets sell for about the same, maybe even less
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>>66351337
How about canvas? I have no idea how coveted MiTo's stuff is, at least it's PBT though.
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>>66351404
well that sets drops every now and again so I doubt you can get much for it since you can always buy a new one again next year. The sets that really hold their value are the ones that only have one run
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I really like the uniform, flat, low-profile keyboards of laptops because I find them easier to type on. I think this is because I type incorrectly though. Should I get an accommodating keycap set or would learn proper home row typing be better in the long run?
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>>66351557
Fair enough.
> drops every now and again
The one on massdrop right now is labelled as "round 2" everywhere, is there any indication that it's a regular thing or are you simply extrapolating?
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>>66351647
he had a similar set before those that was more of a prototype. So it is round 2, but there are technically three
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Is the Model M to loud for a office?
Don't wanna be that guy
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>>66352071
yes
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>>66352071
Absolutely yes
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I just built an ergodox. The case I got has slots for stabilizers in the plate, but they're too narrow for cherry stabs to fit. What kind of stabilizers am I supposed to use for this?
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>>66352145
Don't bother to be honest. The thumb caps don't need stabilizing.
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>>66352231
They don't *need* it, sure. They still press fine, no binding at all. But they're a little bit wobbly, even with box switches, and it bothers me.
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>>66351640
if you have the money get one
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>>66352256
The difference in wobble is imperceptible while in actual use to me. The thumbs hit those 2u keys near the middle anyway.
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>>66343971
why did old keyboards use a solenoid?
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>>66349875
>all of the keys are off-center and half of them won't be able to fully hit the bottom
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>>66352367
to make them louder like a typewriter, other keyboards had buzzers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F291BxffYIA
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>>66352450
just for the sake of being loud?
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>>66352460
yes. back then people were used to typewriters and found it weird that these keyboards were quieter so several different keyboards had buzzers, speakers, or solenoids built in them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIDPx_H41XE
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>>66352505
Oops that was the wrong video
here's the correct one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfyOs694lpU
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>>66352534
>pressing the space bar with the index finger
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>>66352631
Yeah, Chyro is weird like that. He converted to thumb, though
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>>66352631
he types like a normal person now
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>>66343071
Late as fuck reply.

I can't talk about vidya performance because I don't play anymore, but gateron brown feel great. Got them because heard some people putting them between Cherry blues and browns.

I really wanted TKL, because I have no need for a numpad. I didn't consider having no F row at first, but I don't miss it really.

Paid 48 bucks for this on sale, and after trying some 60-80 'gaming' mech keyboards I have to say this was a steal.

Go for it.
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What's your favorite keyboard mod?
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>>66353607
hard foam replacement. Seriously, if you thought the model M was pingy these are on a whole other level. changing the foam helps absorb some of the reverberations
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>>66353607
i call it the "cum mod" all you do is just cum on your keyboard to lube your switches and stabs sometimes you have to do it a couple times though
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>>66330945
havitkb366l
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>>66341918
1. No.
2. No, I love it and own two of them now. Never using any other layout on future mx builds.
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Are standalone optical switches for use in custom keyboards a possibility? I'm quite the input lag autist/snakeoilist. I'd like to use some in a ergonomic keyboard but no such thing exists. The Wooting's Adomax switches are hotswappable so there is some hope.
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>>66354089
you probably need a custom controller that has low latency. no sense in memeing it up if you're still gonna end up with 50ms of lag
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He guys, is anyone going to the New York meetup this Saturday?
I know that it's mostly reddit, but I want to try out a beamspring.
Here's the list of some of keyboards and switches that are gonna be there
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NLQ0SjpPrHfPgj-ffPsI8Oa51eO1V8VHGHGzh7mz8Sw/edit#gid=0
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>>66355217
tell us if the model f repro is any good
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Can I get a rec on a good small macropad? DIY kit or built.
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>>66356086
>that spacebar
oh no
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I hate niffers
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>>66356216
Vinnie's one from Ali that was shilled a few threads ago




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