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how hard is it to get a dev job at a big tech company?
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I got a job at red hat as a straight white male (male). Don't let the media scare you
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>>67073064
But is it harder to get EE job in some SIEMENS or International Rectumfrier?
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>>67073081
>straight white male.
let's say I am non-binary and queer. how do I let them know? do I put that on my resume or something
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>>67073064
>how hard is it to get a job
hard for you
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>>67073064
If you got great credentials, its obviously easier to get hired at a big company since they got more vacancies and maybe even money to hire skilled people they don't imminently need.
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>>67073064
Not very, but their hiring process is usually retarded.
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If you mean microsoft fb good apple etc its very straight forward.

Be able to do half the medium difficulty questions on leetcode or hackerrank. That will make you have like a 50% chance of surviving the 5 ish interviews.

Then you just need to be in college or have work experience. They dont only hire Rockstars im p avg 2.7gpa cs student with no cs hobbies.

Do it faggot newgrad offers start at 120k
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>>67073095
just dye your hair a funky color before the interview
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>>67073159
>Be able to do half the medium difficulty questions on leetcode or hackerrank.
how long does it take to git gud at leetcode?
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>>67073244
Starting from what?

If starting totally fresh and you can ask a friend dumb syntax and environment questions i think 20hours a week for a year of practice could do it for most people.

Prolly 3 months getting good at basic syntax and getting your environment setup. Then like 9 months on algorithms and data structures.

If you already know of hashtables and have used them you probably know enough to do it in 3 months of 20 hours a week.
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>>67073291
I'm at the end of a CS degree. so I've been through 1 upper div algo class and 1 grad level data structures class. but I still struggle with leetcode mediums and hards.
>3 months of 20 hours a week.
holy absolute fuck.
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>>67073378
Oh i meant if someone only barely did data structures.

For you 1 month. Maybe 2 weeks.
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>>67073093
So is Red Hat red pilled?
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>>67073378
Use this
https://github.com/haseebr/competitive-programming/tree/master/Materials
Begin easy book with aplications but no hard problems or formal proof.
Algorithhms 4th Edition by Robert Sedgewick
Begin formal proof book about how to solver algorithms problems, hard problems.

Introduction to Algorithms by Udi Manber

http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs97si/
This begin notes very nice about algortihms problems.
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>>67073171
couldn't any straight white male do this and be guaranteed a job that will fix his carreer forever? Surely anon isn't *that* averse to grabbing some blue hair dye and cutting his hair a week after he's been hired, right?
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>>67073064
Easy, I can barely code and I got an interview and a job at Microsoft.

But I am a half black and half Hispanic woman(male).

Don't believe me, the building I had my interview in was building 111 and they have a cool snack room behind the glass doors. The lobby had like a dead mouse hat and an xbox 360 or some shit.
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>>67073617
>But I am a half black and half Hispanic woman(male).
was this on your resume? if not, how'd you leverage it
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>>67073064
The non-meme answer is that those big companies can afford to be pretty picky with who they hire, so the interviews are usually pretty grueling and they have you running in circles with the number of interviews too. If you flunk the interview, you can always say to yourself that its not that you suck, they're just out to get straight white males.
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>>67073634
Well my name is legally female and I put all the ethnic clubs I was in during college. Although a lot of project mangers tell me I am the prefect person to hire because while I wasn't a 4.0 student I was involved a lot of clubs and I know how to socialize. It may shock a lot of people on /g/, but no one cares if you have a 4.0 or some high gpa irl. What is most important is being able to do a project with other people and doing it fast. If all you care about is perfection and doing everything by the book you will never make it in the real world. Well unless you are so genius it doesn't matter but if you were you wouldn't be reading what a retarded tranny who at least in part got hired for a job because of her skin color and having the balls to wear a dress to an interview.

>>67073653
Wrong, they will hire bodies as long as they mesh with the company. Maybe as devs in title only though.
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>>67073244
a couple a day for a couple of weeks with cs background. you should be able to do most 'easy' ones quickly. onsites will be those and mediums with a little twist. Also adding some extra features to common datastructures. Only time I got a hard one was on a google phone screen (count islands in water as you add them) but you arent expected to finish
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Other Anon here asking

I want to try and be the 3D-modeller (the person who makes 3D models, environment and animation). I've already picked up Blender courses on Udemy considering all of these aspects, is there anything else I need to focus on?

I feel like I can be passionate about it, but I'm not going to lie I also want to work in that sphere, so any advice would be appreciated.
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>>67073171
They'll fire you as soon as you show you can actually code
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>>67073733
All 3D artist I know usually had arts,graphic design or fail architect degree but almost all self taught 3D software design,animation,materials and build huge portafolio very visual, some YouTube videos,galleries.

Learn to draw use Loomis books, learn some design or superficial architecture, build a lot projects cars,characters,build,houses,sci fi.

>>>/3/ had good guide.

Watch a lot tutorial blender on YouTube.
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>>67073064
Microsoft, Apple, LinkedIn, etc should be pretty easy. You can be a retard and only pass a few leetcode mediums and get a newgrad offer.

Google, Facebook, Netflix, Uber, etc are going to roast your pansy ass. Git gud regardless of race/gender.
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>>67073064
I really want to know what kind of tech job she will do.
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>>67073081
If you actually know what you're doing its easy. if you don't then you might want to become trans
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>>67073832
Probably some kind of developer outreach or support for their products.
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mfw I never paid for a microsoft product
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>>67073700
>If all you care about is perfection and doing everything by the book you will never make it in the real world.

Code is rarely perfect and rarely done by the book.

>What is most important is being able to do a project with other people and doing it fast.

Speed shouldn't only be the consideration. Do things too fast and you'll just end up with unknown bugs and performance issues.
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>>67073081
its even harder for asians
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>>67073159
>Be able to do half the medium difficulty questions on leetcode
Sounds like a pretty useful website but aren't the questions a little too easy?
>medium
>Given a linked list, remove the n-th node from the end of list and return its head.
The hard ones look challenging enough but medium and earlier look simple. I wouldn't consider myself a particularly good programmer either.
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>>67074330
Yeah, no fucking joke. Asians have it the hardest with getting into a great college or an important job. They are one of the smallest minority groups in America and they fucking excel over everyone else lmao.
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>>67074330
Wasn't there a gif showing that attempted diversity hires in one of the big tech companies is just about replacing white men with asians? It went through a graph of the diversity of the company over a few years and that was basically the only change.
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>>67073064
Easy as fuck, if you know what you’re doing.

I live in a third world country but we have Intel, IBM, Oracle and many other big companies here.
Still a Software Engineer Student, but me and my pals started working for Intel, IBM; just a few weeks ago my buddy got a call from Facebook and will be relocating to the USA. We are still 1yr away from graduation.

Bottom line, it’s all about job experience, dedication and having your resume online.
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>>67074984
https://www.wsj.com/articles/youtube-hiring-for-some-positions-excluded-white-and-asian-males-lawsuit-says-1519948013
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>>67073064
I keep flunking job interviews, it's either I straight up fail in their tests or just fail to show up. I missed many opportunities.
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>>67075071
>I live in a third world country
India?
They don't hire you because you good, they hire you because you're cheap.
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>>67073081
time to go chris-chan
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What does that baboon do? Interaction engineer? Diversity warden?
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>>67073094
You mean Fujitsu? I worked there for years.
Siemens is a license nowadays, not a company.
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>>67073832
>evangelist
>experience engineer
>interaction engineer
>diversity officer
>chief diversity officer
Pick one.
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>>67075137
Sounds like a lack of preparation problem honestly
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>>67073094
the tech industry isn't as swarmed with diversity hires and pajeets yet.
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>>67073064
lol worst place to ask for such advice
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>>67074984
Asians are effectively considered white when it comes to diversity effort. Asians are over-represented by 300% as compared to whites.
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>>67073081
just fucking say you're latino then you stupid faggot retard stop trying to be honest about your race when you can just lie
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>>67078429
I'll bet all of them are working as 'community managers' or some shit like that.
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>>67078693
how do greedy jew companies make money off substandard labor like those women who work has diversity engineers or other meme jobs? How the FUCK can they sustain it?
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>>67078643
How does that work if they have eyeballs? They know you're lying by seeing you, the only Latinos that look white are Tejanos.
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>>67077405
Beg to differ. Was just yesterday at a fuckhueg Siemens building.

t. Yuropoor
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>>67078803
a) Most consumers are retarded cattle.
b) They still have ridiculous amounts of talents to compensate.
c) Lack of competition.
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>>67074330
Asians are honorary white males when it comes to hiring them or accepting them into universities
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>>67074948
I remember their was this article called "the myth of American meritocracy", it's crazy how underrepresented asians are in college (even with this disadvantage there still so many). Jews are extremely overreprested in elite colleges they make up 6% of top test scorers but make up 20-30% in elite schools (jews are allowed to use laws meant for blacks). Schools and businesses have clear quotas that discriminate against whites and asians.
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>>67073064
Those are actually mentally ill men
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>>67073081
Coock is fagging Google up as we speak.
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>>67073081
Funny because 4/5 software devs in Seattle are men.
That's an actual statistic.
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>>67078915
Yeah, there are tons of Siemens buildings in Germany but they are all rented for different companies.
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pretend your gay and get a deep fake tan
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>>67078827
>Implying the average American isn't a mutt that could pass for multiple races
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>>67073081
I'm a straight white male and I work at a large tech company. It took 4 years of education and 4 more building a quality CV. Plus being a normal, read, not a fucking autist. Oh and having interests outside of tech, that's actually what got me my current job.
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>>67081957
>Oh and having interests outside of tech, that's actually what got me my current job.
what the hell? Did you and the interviewer bond over the latest Mission Impossible film? How is this relevant
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>>67083181
What an autistic reply.
They want to know you're not a school shooter in the making, participating in clubs, sports, etc. goes a long way.
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>>67083191
so basically a screen for whether you're an outgoing normie or not
fucking lol sounds like hell, I find sports boring and clubs and shit sound like hell since I don't get along with other inbreds in this world.
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I work at Microsoft and most of our programmers, as far as I can tell, are all in India anyways.
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>>67073064
I pretend to be latino so it's pretty easy for me to get jobs because my name sounds brown and I have a white nerd work ethic and intellect.
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>>67073291
Jeez you really are stupid. If you said 30 minutes a day for a year then I would agree but this is some odd level of stupid or you never learned how to study.
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>>67073487
You could also just say you're pansexual and gender fluid and you just so happens to be in a relationship with a woman and identify as a man that day.
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>>67075741
nobody hires slackers

cheap or not, hard work pays off
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>>67084787
>nobody hires slackers
you've never been on any business campus for any period of time, grocery boy
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>>67083262
If you get off your pedestal and stop hating everyone around you then you might enjoy those things a little more. Even introverted autists have activities they get together and do. You're exactly the kind of idiot the normie screen is there to filter out.

>t. outgoing cyborg working embedded dev
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>>67073064
for you impossible

everybody else
not that hard
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>>67073064

How long is this "woman in tech" meme gonna last ?

Nobody really cares if you are a dude or not as long you do your work.
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>>67073064
Dye your hair purple and tell then you used to be (opposite gender) and it's pretty easy
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>>67084976
>How long is this "woman in tech" meme gonna last ?
Until the bust, then we blame it on women in tech and get rid of HR all together.
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>>67085165
>>67085178

How many years has the average modern artist spent studying the art of music? Did they study under any other musicians? Are their songs just endless repeats of the same three notes and 2 sentences?
Can they tell me the difference between Ionian, Dorian, and Mixolydian modes? How about the difference of the keys of A Major and f# minor? How about a Coda?
You see its more than the instrument, the very way of composing music has gone from "How do we inspire emotion and provoke thought from our listeners?" to "Let's just do a catchy tune, throw in some shitty lyrics, and also crank the bass to 11"
Have any of you ever heard the album "Trout Mask Replica" by Captain Beefheart? Probably not. I am infinitely superior to you neckbeards in every single way and my superior taste in music attests to that. I'll bet you lack even the basic ear training necessary to appreciate this Cadillac of the arts.

You will all repose forever in your mother's basement, autistically yelling at your computer screens while the noise of some stupid primitive electronic drum music pounds ominously in the background, screeching for your mother to bring you more tendies. I, meanwhile, will be reclining in perfect ease on my plush leather sofa, sipping a dry martini and listenting to the soothing refrains of the noble Captain Beefheart, crooning away the sounds of the human soul as every woman you have ever loved from afar slobbers on my superior schlong in ways you can only imagine.

Enjoy your virginity, neckbeards.
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>>67073064
leetcode on and off for 4 months and you'll get in and start making 200-400k depending on experience.
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>>67084830
but I'm an introvert Chad and I don't like to hang out with ugly autists who sperg around women and live deadend lives
I just fuck women and hang out with my close group of friends I've known from school
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>>67084805

> grocery boy
try harder

I forgot everyone here in /g is a millionaire, talented entrepreneur with years of working experience

fuck me for pointing out the obvious

stay classy /g
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>>67073064
hard if your not a minority, illegal, a woman, or black.
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>>67073064
Depends. Some companies you need to graduate from MIT, Stanford, Ivy Leage, Carnegie Mellon, etc. just to get your foot in the door. Apparently that's what Google was like in the 2000s.

I've applied (and worked at) big name companies that let anyone interview as long as they passed an automated coding challenge. Heck, Facebook and Uber did this. They're usually pretty straightforward DP problems.

Whiteboard interviews can be hit or miss. You kinda have to get in the rhythm of what to expect in the interviews. I struggled pretty bad my freshman year at whiteboard interviewing, but I just kept applying getting interviewing practice. By my sophomore year I think I got comfortable at whiteboard interviewing and it opened lots of doors.
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>>67073378
A lot of whiteboard interviews are way simpler than they often let on. I've only seen one that required complex data structure like a Bloom filter once. Usually the hardest interviews are just dynamic programming or simple concurrency (like implement a reader-writer lock from a mutex primtive). No-one has ever asked me to solve something like a network flow problem.
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>>67084976
Depends. At my company, if you come from a "non-traditional background" (the term we use for either new grads that were non-computing related majors, self-taught people, or people who went coding boot camps) you are automatically rejected if you aren't diverse.

Also, if you're diverse you get two chances to pass the phone screen, otherwise you need to pass on your first try.
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>>67078232
But it is flooded with greenfags, that believe, that human is not a nature.
>>67077405
What is better to study: EE or CS or ME or AE or CE?
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>>67083181
No we discussed my passion/experience with photography, which happens to be the main business of the company, but not what I'd be working with.
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>>67085188
A copypasta is born
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>>67073094
Atleast in Germany it's not to hard if you put in the work
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>>67075071
Which country?
Link your github or something
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>>67073064
Wear a rainbow colored tie and bring a bottle of onions at the interview.
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>>67073093

Are you in Boston? I see red hat guys a lot on the subway
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>>67073064
>we're here to create the change we want to see
why are leftists so militant at every thing they do? why can't they just get a job? is it because politics is the only thing giving their lives meaning?
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>>67085770
>>67085759
I've honestly never even been asked a whiteboard question that was similar to a leetcode style hard question in an interview. Just recently started looking for a new job and had an onsite with google in May before I was preparing, they were all medium difficulty. After a couple months I'm able to solve 90% of the ones on that level. Leetcode hards are usually not that much harder in terms of raw difficulty, they seem more like just added complexity in terms of system design or combining multiple mediums.
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>>67093291
so you failed the Google interview?
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>>67073064
Easier than getting a job at a good small tech company, but harder than getting a job at at a non tech company.

Good jobs at large tech companies are hard to get, but they hire plenty of people to grind through. Large non tech companies, like insurance companies or sales companies, how programmers by the cattle car. They also treat them accordingly.
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Why would you want to tho? When the tech bubble explodes within the coming months you'll be laid off anyway. The autists who think they'll be coding as a "career" for the next 20-30 years at Google or other meme onion company literally have single-digit IQ.
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>>67096053
5 years is enough for retirement.
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>>67096070
Yea, but onions took out huge mortgages + car payments and think the gravy train will run forever.
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>>67096110
Nope. Plenty of people work there with the intention of saving as much as they can and moving to somewhere cheaper.
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>>67096110
most cars in the Google parking lots are cheap cars, everyone is saving like crazy
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>>67096310
>>67096121
So the people who work there wait for the bubble to blow up at any minute? Doesn't sound like a healthy environment.
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>>67096349
Most are in a holding pattern waiting for the next economic happening.
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>>67079173
>jews are allowed to use laws meant for blacks
Excuse me sir, Jew here. Please clarify so I can make full use of my rights.
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>>67073442
They hire pajeets exclusively
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Why are we discussing some guy's aspirations?
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How does one even get an interview? I have no relevant experience but I'm autistically good at meme math and programming questions.
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>>67097398
>How does one even get an interview
Get a referral.

>I'm autistically good at meme math and programming questions
You probably aren't.
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>>67085837
Meds or law, engineering is overrated
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>>67073717
>count islands in water as you add them
What does this mean?
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>>67085178

HR literally hires only chads now. They want to get a husband.
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>>67085188
How many years has the average modern programmer spent studying the art of code? Did they study under any other engineers? Are their programs just endless repeats of the same three functions and 2 loops?
Can they tell me the difference between Dijkstra's, A*, and DFS algorithms? How about the difference of the elegence of Perl and Python? How about C#?
You see its more than the language, the very way of writing code has gone from "How do we innovate and improve the world?" to "Let's just make a video game, or tinder for dogs."
Have any of you ever read Getting Started with Python by Pearson? Probably not. I am infinitely superior to you neckbeards in every single way and my superior taste in software attests to that. I'll bet you lack even the basic touch-type training necessary to appreciate this Tesla of the arts.

You will all repose forever in your mother's basement, autistically yelling at your computer screens while the glow of some stupid botnet OS festers ominously in the background, screeching for your mother to bring you more tendies. I, meanwhile, will be reclining in perfect ease on my plush leather sofa, sipping a dry martini and listenting to the soothing refrains of the noble Computerphile, crooning away the sounds of the human soul as every woman you have ever loved from afar slobbers on my superior schlong in ways you can only imagine.

Enjoy your virginity, neckbeards.
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>>67073064
I see why microsoft is such a piece of shit these days. Fucking assholes.
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>>67073064
if your white male

identify as a female
presenting as a male
and sexuality lesbian

on your CV

which also happens to be the same interests a hetro male
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>>67097309
based and redpilled.
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>>67096349
>Not knowing the history of San Fran and California in general
it's a boom and bust sort of place
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Gold_Rush
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>>67074136
You really fucked up this time.
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I'd love to git gud and work in an actual development position, but I'm torn between building projects and learning DS/algos interspersed with leetcode practice. Also, I've been primarily learning via web development, which has taught me the essential fundamentals of programming, but nothing about BigO and efficiency and weighing which data structures would be best in a given situation. I'm having a hard time conceptualizing how you'd implement something like a stack, queue, binary tree, etc, since most of what I've done has been plumbing with frameworks and REST calls.

Also, would making desktop/mobile applications serve me better when applying to one of these positions over my personal webshit stuff I've made? The most complicated stuff I've done is CRUD with next to no security.
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>>67095893
yeah, wasn't bad though. I didn't really study because I thought it would be impossible for me to pass but if you understand basics up to DP and are comfortable with the standard library for whatever language you're using you should be fine.
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What kind of job do those girls have? Are they software engineers?
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>>67102786
hired to decide what emotes to change probably
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>>67073095
Show them your asshole.




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