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>>68412173
Idol trash here. What's your setup like, Anon?
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what headphones do all the gay furries use?
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>>68412268
beyers
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>>68412279
stop kvetching about beyers so we can move on
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>>68412268
M40x or M50x
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>>68412268
Speakers? See around 34:50.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=H07NpWk_Xf8
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>>68412268
Sennheisers
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>>68412173
I don't know what headphones to get /hpg/. Should I just get the cheapest one?
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>>68412268
beyerheisers
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>>68412420
get one from the one of the axis powers, i.e. sennheiser, beyerdynamic, STAX
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>>68412420
Buy the b8s and tell me if they're good.
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>>68412450
>sennheiser, beyerdynamic, STAX
Does it matter what price point I get them at?
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hey /hpg/ please convince me not to drunkenly buy a pair of T1s.
my little Fostex HP-A3 wouldn't even be powerful enough to drive them properly, right?
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/r/headphones has came around and now agrees that external DACs and amps are a fucking scam that you shouldn’t buy unless your mobo sound card crates audible noise. So, are they now /ourguys/?
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>>68412473
get an sr-007 instead
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>>68412473
If you crank it to max you might get okay volume but if you ever plan to listen loud or listen to quieter tracks, you're fucked
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>>68412555
>sr-007
that's double the price and i'd need a high voltage amp on top

fuck now you're making the t1s look like a good deal
even though they're still twice my sober budget

>>68412613
thanks, that's the advice I'm wanting to hear
do you think it could drive the dt1990s well even at higher volumes?
or do i really need to go even lower in impedance/ get a better amp
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>>68412674
>that's double the price and i'd need a high voltage amp on top
don't you have an srm-252 already? I must be thinking of another anon. buy an srs-3100
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>>68412674
My player outputs 270mW at 32 Ohm, and I use it at around 60-70% power for my DT1990s
the Fostex of yours has a power output of only 100mW, so basically only a third
You can get the DT1990 instead of the T1s and get yourself something like the monoprice amplifier which has enough power to drive basically anything out there, and you'll still get to keep some cash
or just buy the T1 and spend the extra $100 on the amp I dunno it's your money
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>>68412520
Go away tech illiterate poorfag zoomer.
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>>68412520
Yeah, the ATH-M50 army is exactly the group you should listen to if you want opinions that are backed by experience and knowledge.
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>Out for delivery: by 8pm
>It's 4:14pm and it's still not here

REEE GIVE ME MY TALOS 2'S
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>>68412687
>I must be thinking of another anon
quite certainly
that's my first time posting in here
I only have the hp-a3 and a pair of COPs

>srs-3100
that sounds intriguing electrostatics always felt like alien technology to me
and shipped from japan on ebay they're about the same price as t1s

>>68412786
so I'll need a new amp anyways, regardless of which headphones
I know the dt1990s would be the sensible choice
but I'm kind of afraid that I'll buy something nicer anyways within six months if i go for the price/performance compromise right now
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>>68413125
>and shipped from japan on ebay they're about the same price as t1s
and they are far superior
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>>68413125
buy stax anon, look how bad your cat look at those beyers, you sure dont want to piss him off even more, dont you?
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>>68412173
Beyerdynamic DT770 or Sennheiser HD6XX?
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>>68413149
>far superior
>>68413160
>buy stax anon

fuck I guess i have to now
how bad are their ergonomics though, they really look uncomfortable
and the thing I like the most about my cops is how comfy they fit even after hours of wear

>look how bad your cat look at those beyers, you sure dont want to piss him off even more, dont you?
he's a she and she's pissed that I picked her up from her bed to snap a cute pic
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>>68413243
I'd go for 6xx unless you listen to bass heavy music
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>>68413243
6XX easy. how can you compare closed to open anyway?
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>>68413252
>how bad are their ergonomics though, they really look uncomfortable
the L300 pads are garbage the rest are comfy. easily fixed by pad swapping
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>>68413125
By the way this fostex dac measures like shit so it is a good idea to swap it anyway.
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>>68413273
nah, if he cant hear noise and he is satisfied with the power he's good, no need to spend more money. the next time try to buy a good measuring product anon
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>>68412520
based Reddit
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>>68413252
They feel far more comfortable than they look, as long as you don’t have to experience L300 earpads. They’re almost like as if someone had completely forgotten all the stuffing from regular Stax pleather pads.
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I was going to have sex with this hot girl but then she saw my HD600s and said "I'm a Beyerdynamic girl" and walked out.

Don't make my mistake anonz
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what IEMs have good sound stage?
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whats the difference between the dt770, dt880, and dt990?
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>>68412924
You should have bought the argon or t60rp, both are better
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>>68413624
Closed, semi open, open

880 is the most neutral but they're all v shaped
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>>68413271
>fixed by pad swapping
>>68413442
>They feel far more comfortable than they look
I am mostly afraid of the square shape
but maybe that doesn't have as much of an impact as i think it does
are there any good velour pads available?
first thing i did with my cops was to put T70 velour pads on them because the stock smooth "leather" made me sweat within half an hour

>>68413273
>dac measures like shit
i know the amp part of it is kind of bad
but I always thought that dac sound is mostly audiofoolery and there isn't much of a difference once you're past the garbage quality range
but I don't have anything better to compare it to

>>68413322
>nah, if he cant hear noise
that was actually the reason to buy a dedicated dac in the first place since my notebook's soundcard is noisy as hell
can't hear any noise on the fostex, so I'm happy
>satisfied with the power
well i only have COPs which are basically made for mobile devices (16ohms) so i only run them on 10-20% and everything past 30% really hurts my ears
>the next time try to buy a good measuring product anon
mostly bought it for the design and compactness and because I got it for a superb price

do you think there's a significantly better dac available for ~$100 if yes I'll try it just to have a comparison
otherwise it's not worth it to me and I'll stick to what i've got
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>>68413700
Vesper audio makes alcantara stax pads
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>>68413760
nice
maybe you can answer me another question i've been wondering about for a long time
why does everyone, even high end manufacturers use synthetic materials like alcantara instead of real (suede) leather?
are there any advantages I'm not aware of?
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>>68413760
I bought a pair a few weeks ago, the customization options are:
Handcrafted custom earpads, over-ear type, whole genuine leather, leather+alcantara or whole alcantara(vegan), not angled, fast foam, are 61usd/pair.

Basic colors - black leather and black alcantara. We also have emerald ink, dark-grey, red, brown, orange, matte foxy, matte grey-blue, dark blue, beige, perforated black leather, grey, blue, burgundy alcantara, perforated black microsuede available. You also can order other colors, but it will be ~18usd extra and will take more time.

Memory foam is 3 usd extra

Angling is 9 usd extra

Additional cooling is 17 usd extra
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https://www.strawpoll.me/16806951
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I'm finally looking to get a pair of full sized headphones after not having them for like two years.
My price budget is about $100, preferably less but can still do a tiny bit more. Only past headphones I've had have been Sony MDR7506's. They were nice but would kind of hurt my ears/give me a headache if I wore them for too long. Can I get any recc's?
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>>68413700
>do you think there's a significantly better dac available for ~$100 if yes I'll try it just to have a comparison
monoprice desktop amp
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How about buying a DAC that allows for you to experience real multibit magic?
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>>68414088
to clarify, it won't sound any better but it has enough power to serve you for life
don't fall for the snake oil
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First ever fray into the DAC/AMP scene, powering some DT 770 pro 250ohms
D-don't make fun of my messy desk, my glass top is impossible to keep clean after many years.
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>>68413979
that's cheaper than I thought, what did you get? I've been meaning to buy one but I've been waiting for someone to buy one first like a faggot loser
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>>68414025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX39noNkJeE
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>>68414088
>monoprice desktop amp
I know i could use a better amp
but that doesn't matter if i go for the stax since they come with their own amp

how about the dac though can i get an improvement over my fostex for $100
or is it not worth it
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>>68414124
I didn't want to change the sound too much so i got full leather, not angled memory foam but I'll probably order a microsuede and a burgundy alcantara set when i have some extra cash
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>>68414202
Get the Khadas Tone Board then
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>>68414098
based
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>>68414223
>Khadas Tone Board
will it be noticeably better than my fostex
or are you just recommending it because it's a good $100 dac
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>>68414246
dacs and solid states are not audible, people are trying to shill you better measuring dacs even though it doesn't make a difference
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>>68414202
The fostex dac is perfectly fine. If you don't hear noise or crackles, you're good.
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>>68414202
How about putting in a bit more money and getting Mimby like >>68414098 suggests?
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>>68414271
>>68414276
that's my assumption as well
but I don't have any experience with higher quality dacs to back it up
so thank you for your input
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>>68414202
this:
>>68414276
and also if you keep the fostex you have a fully superior japanese setup as a bonus point.
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>Budget
~$150
>Location
USA
>Source
FiiO E10k
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
>Sound signature
I like the bass
>Past headphones
sph9500
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>>68414352
kill yourself schiit is trash
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>>68414372
DT 770 or HE4XX
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>>68414372
Is $150a hard limit?, For $170 you can get the urbanfun ts1 on AliExpress on 11/11
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Takstar Pro 82 or BossHiFi B8?
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>>68414352
>>68414098
>multibit
>Mimby
that's some advanced memery I'm not familiar with can i get a quick rundown?
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>>68414356
>that's my assumption as well
it's not an assumption, it's a fact. never in the history of audio has someone pass a blind test
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>>68414396
Nobody besides that one shill knows how B8 sounds like, but dozens of anons have joined the Takstar army and nobody has regretted it.
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>>68414411
Keep telling that to yourself:
https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/dac-blind-test-modi2-vs-odac.582/
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>>68414402
It's an audiophool meme sold by a company with very good marketing that made people fall for it, they build gear that technically measures better but deep in the inaudible levels and then charge premium for it
but because hearing is subjective the idiots who buy it will convince themselves that there is a difference and then recommend the meme to more people
multibit is basically a way of selling a $100 DAC for $250, literally
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>>68414402
That poster is on about 4 levels of memery, don’t worry about it
>Schiit meme
>Multibit meme
>Mike Moffat meme...
>...but using an image of Austrian incestual child rapist who kinda looks like Moffat

Only thing missing is Yggy meme
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>>68414430
>Trusting nipple-manlet
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>>68412173
>more le nazi pics

Faggot
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>>68414430
you need a sample size of atleast 25 tests for it to be even significant. also, the odac has a non-flat FR because it ships with the wrong setting.
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>>68414402
you want a quick rundown? ok:
dont listen to those schiit shills, multibit is a meme to steal money from audiophools. you fostex is perfectly fine.
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>>68414430
>I'll get Julie to randomly change the inputs and shove the back half of the switcher into box so I don't see where the connectors go
JULAAAAAAAAAY
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I need a dedicated headset to speak into and (((play games))) with. Thinking about getting this one.'

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZ8LGVQ/ref=twister_B07J5VD91V?_encoding=UTF8&th=v
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>>68414414
I think you're the only anon here who has them.

The b8s look great though. Probably will end with both of I get a nice Christmas bonus
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>>68414485
So it's not double blind because julie knows which is on.
>>68414430 >>68414411
Blind is easy. Doubleblind is where it is at.
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>>68414506
Gaming headsets have the weirdest reviews. There's never a real conclusion of which ones are the best.
I'll end with a decent pair of normal headphones and a clipped microphone.
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>>68414485
>I'll get Julie to randomly change COCK and shove the bLack ONE into HER ASS so I don't see HER BEING SAD
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>>68414537
Get yourself a zalman clip on mic, clips right onto the cable so you don't need to stick any shit in your cans.

Had about 4 zalmans (kept snapping by rolling over the long cable) since 08, good stuff.
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>tfw the HD668Bs are so bright my ears start to hurt after a while even at low volume if i don't EQ them

still pretty HD668Based though
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>>68414575
Nice, thank you.
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>>68414430
Is that where he came up with a bullshit excuse to not volume match the test?
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>>68414509
I’d be really suprised if there aren’t a lot of anons with Takstars considering how many here keep asking for cheap-but-good closed headphones. We can probably assume that the people who ask that and end up ordering them are just silently happy with them, not being the type who would hang around becoming a thread regular.
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>>68414457
Has the meme train gone too far?
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Should I get ath m50x or sennheiser 598C?

Budget is about 150$ and the cable has to be removable.
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what are the best headphones I can get under $70
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>Been listening to my DT1990's lately, and only that, loving them a bunch, not one complaint, everyone is beautifully done from the build to the sound
>Find myself HARDLY ever using my other headphones now, feel sorry for them
>Start switching them around in rotation again.

Today is HD650's day. She's an old girl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrQWhFysPKY
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>got drunk and angry and joined the esp95x drop
Did I fuck up?
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>>68414976
yes. dust will eat your driver. what a shame, with a little more saving you could have picked l300
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>>68412520
>So, are they now /ourguys/?
Absolutely not. For anyone how shuns the glory of external devices is doomed to fiddle around with software volume sliders and will never know the glory of fondling a beefy knob with just the right amount of turning resistance and a smooth touch.
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>>68414112
Still far, far cleaner than my desk...
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>>68414468
Oh no you called me a faggot. CHECKMATE BLUMFFF.
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>>68413243
Closed-back for isolation, otherwise open-back.
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Someone asked how good the Solaris was in the last thread. Short answer: Really fucking good. Easily bests the Andromeda in all sound categories. Until the Solaris, the Andromeda was the best IEM I had heard and like the sound sig of. Had a pair of SE846s, but they didn’t last long; too congested sounding.

Andromeda is probably getting sold, as well as some of my closed cans. Time will tell, but right now Solaris and HD800s (demoed Utopia, liked HD800s better) are the only things I want to listen to.
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>>68414786
What are you other headphones? Is the DT1990 still your favorite even after rotating?
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>>68415044
doesn't koss have a lifetime warranty? dude can just get it fixed
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>>68415182
Have you tried either the stax or shure electrostatic IEMs?
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>>68414396


Ok what about :

Takstar Pro 82 or ATH-m40x?
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>>68415222
yes good luck having them fixed routinely, that sound like very normal and enjoyable thing to do.
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My £180 refurbed Sony WH-1000MX2 headphones arrived the other day. Immediately extended my warranty to 5 years for an extra £18 before I even got them out of the box. I want these to last considering how damn expensive these are.
I've used them tons already. Still got battery life. Hot damn. These are so good. The noise cancellation, the crystal clear audio quality, the perfect comfort and fit, the ability to skip music tracks and adjust volume on the right ear pad, (it even works with skipping scenes and starting and stopping films on my Sony UBP-800 4k player), and being able to cover the pad and hear outside noises is great.
Don't need to take them off to talk to people.
I'm up late listening to 80s pop on my PC. I use a Taotronic bluetooth transmitter/receiver to send the audio feed to these headphones. (amazing little tool. Basically makes anything without Bluetooth capable of sending good apt-x HD quality audio. Good battery life on it too)
It feels like total ear sex. Not massively loud, but that extra depth in the soundscape matters. hearing things in layers and off to the sides, even in youtube vids.
Sony are really killing it on the high end media these days.
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>>68415227
Have only heard some Koss and Stax SR-L700 electrostats. The Stax were pretty nice sounding; Very clear.
I haven’t heard the Shure electrostat IEMs, but I hear they’re pretty sweet. Just haven’t been willing to commit to the electrostatic setup, It will probably happen in the future, but it’s been much easier to experiment with traditional headphones to find my preferences and sell off what I don’t like
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>>68415279
maybe despite being actually not that old i'm a kid of a boomer since reading half of what you say make me ill. why the fuck people want bluetooth, noise cancelling and command on the fucking cups? god make iot headphone with fucking apps who need data connection to play even local file at this point, fucking mess fucking fuck.
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Any Audeze anons here? Which one did you get?
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>>68415182
Have you tried the Audeze planar IEMs?
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>>68415438
not the same anon but they need a lot of eq to sound right, heard them from a friend, the 20, not liked them myself and he selled them shortly after so i think he neither. people seems to like unique melody planars a lot, but not heard them personally
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>>68412173
>For sub-$50 headphones and IEMs, check out the infographic in >>>/g/csg

link dont work
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>>68415433
>>68415433
LCD-2 C and LCD-i4. Love that low frequency extension
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>>68414414
Both are fantastic for being under $100 and closed, I still prefer B8 but that's just because I like brighter sound. If only they didn't have those slightly reccesed mids they would be amazing, almost makes me want to buy another pair just to try some of the mods that people on Head-fi have posted.
Still, these things will never beat open cans and mid-fi staples like the 400i and the HD600.
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>>68415517


Go here
>>68408628
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>>68415519
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>68415433
I have the 3's, probably gonna sell them, what do you want to know?
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>>68412173
Based.
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>>68415360
I'd be sceptical as well anon, but:
>30 hour battery life on bluetooth that works with pretty much every format of bluetooth I've thrown at it (except LDAC from my HTC 10 phone, but thats the phone's fault. Apt-X HD is pefectly fine. Virtually zero stutter with it in my pocket. LDAC from my X800 is perfect) and also charges fully in a few hours
>Noise cancelling is not the best but it's really really good still and customisable. You can let in noise for cars and stuff or go all out. I have a noisy family and hoovering in virtual outside silence to music is so so good.
>Command gestures actually work pretty well. Swipe up/down for volume, left/right for track, double tap to start and stop, or hold hand over cup to hear outside noise from the external microphones. Don't need to get the phone out or fiddle with a remote.
It works well in practice. It's not like I'm a hyperactive kid. I'm 27. I'll admit this is the first time I've had something as high end as this. I usually use my old faithful Bose Soundsports earphones with my XDuuo X2 MP3 player. They hook in the ear really well and usually I get a free replacement because they go faulty just before the warranty ends. The "to the shops or work" phones. It's my second free pair. Sometimes I use my Sony WI-H700 bluetooth earphones when I want to be a little more hands free and be out for a day trip. The "long commute" pair.
These are just for home use for me. My early Christmas present to myself. Use them and stick them right back in the box when done. The "oh god these are so expensive I must treat them like an ancient relic, but I must also wear them to drown out other people's conversations or them charging about the house" pair
Different devices for different functions and what my whims are.
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>>68415565
Mostly how they feel on your head. I hear they can be heavy.
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>>68415610
>doesn't care about how they sound just how they feel
that's a big YIKES from me senpai
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>>68415620
I can read a review or FR graph. I know how they sound.
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>>68415636
>I can read a FR graph
no you can't.
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>>68415529
Ah I just want a pair of decent headphones ≤$90 for gaming. I have the Hyper X Cloud and they sound awful, too much treble.
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>>68415438
Solaris anon here. I haven’t heard the Audeze planar IEMs. I was pretty cold towards Audeze in general, having never liked their sound signature. That said, the LCD 4 was very good and a headphone that would have made me consider buying the brand. The HD800s is still my preference though, I enjoy the slight emphasis on treble that the HD has over the emphasis on bass that the LCD 4 has. But regarding the planar IEMs, they’re too fuckhuge for me. Solaris is big, but the planars are dumb.
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>>68415648
If you have to choose between those two for gaming, then takstar is probably the better choice. The low end rumble and the supreme comfort makes it more suitable than the B8s for gaming.
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I think someone here said that if you talk to to an amazon rep for the HD 600 you'll get a coupon that will reduce the price for them to $200? Is that true?
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>>68415610
The new suspension headband helps a lot but yes they are still heavy as fuck. Clamp is firm but the pads are very thick and soft so it feels secure. The seal is also good, so good in fact that you can feel the air pressure in your ears when you put them on.
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>>68415678
Not necessarily those two but I like what I'm reading about the takstar, even the bad reviews
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Just ordered the Sennheiser HD 569 for 124 eurobucks to replace my RHA MA750s, will I regret it?
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>>68415708
As long as it doesn't feel like I'm wearing a brick I'm game.
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>>68415709
Well, if those two are not your only choices how about trying some open headphones, they are great for gaming as long as you're in a quiet place, something like the SHP9500
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>>68415715
Can you do a review of them when you get them?
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>>68415741
Maybe in a few days... got some deadlines closing in.
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>>68415754
Okay thanks bby.
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>>68415737
I wish but I don't have the $ for those.
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>>68415782
They used to cost $50 but are out of production now. Now they are over inflated at $200+
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>>68415810
Goddamn
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>>68415722
Just curious which ones are you getting?
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>>68415853
Was checking out LCD2 C. I got to try some out
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Anyone know about HD 595? how good are they/what headphones are they similar to?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xre8laDGAHQ
our hero is back, still punching fags in the neck going to weeb jails and showing CP album arts on jewtube. isn't he the most based and redpilled reviewer?
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What are the /g/ certified earbuds?
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I am planning on modding my AKG K701 headphones to be balanced and have a detachable cable like the Superlux 668b. Would a 3.5mm balanced jack rather than a 2.5mm one be easier to work with? The cable extensions I would make would just detach from that jack and terminate in either 3.5 mm unbalanced for compatability reasons or a full sized balanced XLR connector. Also, what would be a good tube/solid state amp that has a balanced connection? Looking for less than $200 budget and I would be using my computer as a source so a DAC built in would be sick or a “stack” recommendation.
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>>68416085
Venture Electronics
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I'm the guy who was asking about HD600s/DT Pro 900s yesterday. IE- >>68406356 >>68407245 >>68407168

I just went to a specialist audio store, and the guy told me you guys are full of shit. He said if I want to buy an HD600, I should be getting a Schiit stack at absolute minimum, and that my PC's motherboard or even a E10k are nowhere near good enough to get the best out of those headphones. He suggested I might as well get an HD599 if I'm plugging into my PC.

To clarify, this is my motherboard: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z370%20Extreme4/index.asp#Specification
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>>68416184
>go to a store
>the seller tells you that you should buy many expensive things from him because they are absolutely necessary
hmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>68416184
R U sure m8? I have a dac+amp combo in my motherboard and maybe for a HD 600 it wouldn't handle it but I also have a phone that has a DAC on it with multiple people reporting that it supports up to 600 ohms and and HD 600 wouldn't have a problem running it.

I'm not any of the people you responded to. What audio store did you go to?
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>>68416184
>go to audio store
>get sold audio equipment
what the fuck did you expect? no don't buy our products. also don't buy new you can get hd600s and sennheiser products 50% off!
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>>68416184
>Schiit
lol are you retarded? schiit is absolute garbage, it's even worse than any onboard audio
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>>68416184
who suggested 600 without an amp? i think some people here like to listen at 60db and not having spare power for dynamic range. obviously you need an amp with the 600. theyr'e fucking 300ohm even if fairly sensitive. i suggest the chink darkvoice 336c a solid state would do aswell but 600 shine with otl tubes.
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Any good(ish) open-back over-ears/IEM's for ~$50? In the US. Currently own HD419's but I need open-back.

Or, is there a pair of open-back phones approximately equivalent to the HD419?
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>>68416196
>>68416222
Reminder that he did proceed to recommend cheaper headphones like the HD599 if I wasn't prepared to invest $400 in a Schiit stack.

>>68416209
Are you in Australia? It's called Addicted to Audio.

http://addictedtoaudio.com.au/

He seemed pretty strong in telling me an HD600 requires a powerful amp, and said the E10ks have a high return rate because not good enough.

>>68416223
>lol are you retarded?
More like new to the audio scene. I'm just telling you what I was told.
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>>68416269
lmao so he suggested shitphones because "oh u need a dac and amp"

fuck off if you're not going to listen to us
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>>68416184
E10k can run HD600 adequately without question. There's an odd dac/amp dogma that dismisses the E10k so much, I wonder if it's perpetuated by companies with vested interest desu.
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>>68416232
This: >>68406981

The store guy told me not to believe anyone saying a motherboard's on-board audio is good enough.
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>>68416269
he was right to tell you that 600 need an amp, he was a jew telling you to buy schiit stack.
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>>68416288
the E10K is not a very good amplifier in terms of power output. everything else is fine

it's been a while since I had HD600s lying around here but they run fine on pretty much anything
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>>68416284
>fuck off if you're not going to listen to us
Where did I say that? I'm simply telling you what someone else told me. I'm only trying to learn.

You seem like one angry idiot though, in contrast to most posters here.
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>>68416294
if it's not you can always buy an amp later
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>>68416305
It's not great for power slut planars, but it can definitely handle a HD600
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>>68416244
is there even such a thing as "open-back" IEM's?
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>>68416308
the only idiot here is you, believing a fucking salesman lmfao
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>>68416314
absolutely, but at that point you might as well use onboard. I've seen laptops with more gain
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>>68416308
gas yourself for listening to a salesmen. bet you'd buy $10000 cables too if they told you to
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>>68416294
modern onboard DACs are pretty much always good more than enough if other component inside the case dont make them noisy with electromagnetic interferences. onboard AMPs are not powerful enough for some headphones. 600 need a decent external amp.
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>>68416323
I hear shit like macbooks have sick onboard sound, so sure. But I really don't know how good mobo audio gets these days in general, maybe that's true
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>>68416316
No one respect you IRL, right?
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>>68416294
>>>68416232
>This: >>68406981
>The store guy told me not to believe anyone saying a motherboard's on-board audio is good enough.
Didn't this anon go on to specifically look at the specs of your mobo and verify that it drives more than enough ohms to power HD600's?
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>>68416269
He's baiting you. You come in, ready to spend $450 on the headphones you want, and he laughs at you saying you don't have the cash and need extra $400 for Shit. Two things happen: Either he seeds doubt in your head, peddles you the HD599 for $280, and you walk off, forever thinking if you shouldn't have gone and bought the 600, or maybe saving up a bit extra for a shitstack, or he gets you right away, and congrats, you just spent $400 more on Shit you do not need.

Think of it this way: You can always buy a DAC/amp additionally. Get the headphones, try them out, see if the sound is good (no noise, buzz, and is loud enough), and if not, then go buy yourself an amp. What do you have to lose by doing that? A day or two of not listening to the headphones at a good volume?
Preferably ask here first so you don't get peddled a fucking Yggy or something.

Of course the guy will tell you how you need this and that and how it makes oh so much difference. Literally his only job is to sell you as much shit as he can. He'll say anything to trick you into buying, and your mind will do the rest with justifying it and avoiding buyer's remorse.
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>>68416338
that sounds an awful lot like projection anon

>>68416337
I can only speak for myself, but they ran just fine on onboard audio when I had them. my phone had issues getting them loud enough though. I have an amp mostly for my planars
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>>68416336
Thanks. I'm guessing by "decent external amp", you mean something better than say, an E10k?
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>>68416361
Sure, act like you're not an uncivilized pig now.
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>>68416364
if you're buying an amp you're better off buying something that can drive pretty much anything. O2 amps are great bang for your buck amps. I can run anything from IEMs to Audeze on this

>>68416370
I have been :^)
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>>68416269
Not in australia m8. Yeah they are going to be harder to drive. Not exactly sure about the E10ks but... I doubt I would have TOO much trouble running HD 600 on my PC with its included DAC+AMP(Z370 Gaming 7) most people are saying it runs fine but some people say it might be better with a external DAC or you might not even notice a difference. Personally I think I might try them out on my motherboard.
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>>68416345
Yeah, and I brought that up in the store, still said need an Amp/Dac combo. The demo I listened to was connected to an even bigger amp.

>>68416350
Fair enough. Right now I'm just trying to gauge as much information as possible before making a decision.

Still, not sure I want to invest $450 AUD on Headphones, and as far as HD600s go, the next option is used on Ebay at around $250-280 with very limited return policy. Can't hurt to keep asking around threads like this and listening to demos.
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>>68416364
i repeat this
>>68416232
but also
>>68416312
is right, noting wrong to try first and buy later if necessary
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>>68416403
Buying used for non-portable dac/amps is a good idea, if it comes down to it. I say non-portable because lipo batteries may have excess wear. Never bought used headphones before and I don't know if senn has transferable warranty
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>>68416403
one thing you should know about HD600 (and sennheisers in general) is that brand new they have a tight headband and stiff pads. they will clamp on like a woman's legs for at least two weeks until they stretch out
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>>68416433
>they will clamp on like a woman's legs for at least two weeks

god i wish that were me
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>>68416403
The guy running the store is probably an audiophool. He sells that shit for a living, saying you absolutely must have a powerful (and expensive!) amp is basically his mantra.

I assume they have some sort of a return policy. Work a deal out to try them, or just get them used and use the money saved to buy a dac/amp combo.
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>>68412173
Need to get some excellent wireless headphones for black Friday because my shitty skullcandy don't cut it anymore. Price is $350 or under and needs to be from best buy sadly because im putting it on credit

What are some good suggestions?
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>>68416465
Vmoda crossfade 2 is all I can think of. I don't know how familiar they are to their m-100(wired) in terms of build quality but I love mine because they are practically immortal.
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>>68416433
Honestly with my one and only sennheiser product VELOUR is extremely COMFORTABLE. I'd had them on a random headphone on the past with the top pads and earpads and they feel like nothing on my head. I'll continue to buy similar headphones like this sheerly for the comfort.
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>>68416496
don't worry, they are comfortable once they break in
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>>68416244
please
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>>68416184
I ran my HD650 without an amp for about 1.5 years, bought an amp. Literally sounds the same.
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>>68416518
amps are unnecessary for most if not all dynamics. BUT it is fun to turn a knob for volume
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>>68416056
>HD 595
no one knows about this older sennheiser product and can say anything on it? please help hpg veterans.
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>>68412173
I'm glad the Nazi image got deleted, it was tasteless.
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>>68416534
wtf who did this? Anyway anime girl feet should have been the picture.
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I wanted to ask something but I see you guys are talking about it right now.
I also bought the HD600 and wondered if I should buy an amp. Thing is they sound loud enough both on phone and PC. Does that mean I'm good or will the amount make them sound fuller or something?
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>>68416547
amplifiers are only really useful for gain, given they are amplifiers. so long as you can drive your headphones to a comfortable listening volume, you're good.

amps become more important with power hungry things like planar magnetic or electrostats
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>>68416547
I don't have them so I can't say but if you're curious you can just buy on amazon and return if not impressed, or elsewhere with a customer friendly return policy
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>>68412173
What are the cheapest open-ear headphones you can recommend without feeling dirty?
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>>68416492
What about the sony sony WH-1000XM3? I tried them once and they sound decent. is it good or nah?
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>>68416595
if you can still find them, SHP9500. they're like baby HD600

there are some AKGs that get suggested a lot around this price point but I cannot personally vouch for them
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>>68416558
What about DACs?
What about software like DFX Audio Enhancer?
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>>68416547
>I also bought the HD600
How much did it cost you?
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>>68416619
>DACs
your PC already has one, chance favors it's audibly transparent already
>DFX etc
meme software do not buy
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>>68416621
260 euros
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>>68416604
I have no idea but you could consider that an alternative. Crossfade's have a bass heavy sound signature so it doesn't play nicely with classical stuff. I'm basically just spitballing lol, i'm no expert on wireless
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>>68416614
>>68416595
also please for the love of god do not pay more than a hundred bucks for them

they're out of production so supply has dried up all over the place
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Hey bros, what do you think of Wireless Headphones? Do any of you use them on the go?
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>>68416595
>>68416614
SHP9500 but only at $60 or less. that's what they used to cost.

Can't vouch much for anything else. HD 559 is cheap but you need an 2.5" adapter for computer since they only have 3.5" when you buy them.
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>>68416631
Fug :D where'd you get them?
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>>68416676
Wait it was 270 euros actually.
They are on discount in a local music store chain where I live (Greece).
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>>68416614
>>68416647
>>68416670

thanx goys
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I know gaming headsets are usually low quality, BUT the Logitech G633 was $150 and now its $70, and I got the Takstar Pro 82 but Im not sure if I should return it to get the g633, I dont even play games that much desu
what should I do?
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>>68416714
Ah I see. I wanted to get them cheaper. Thanks friend.
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>>68416595 #
AD series from Audio Technica, they are bass light, but they are not really shy about it either nor try to pretend to be neutral etc, and what they do well the do super well! They present lots of characteristics that are praised in good open-backs like good stage/imaging, detailed sound, they don't get hot or isolate, and are true to the marketing that sells them as "airy sounding".
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>>68416184
Snake oil is really fucking strong in the audio world
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going from slight v shape to flat planar bass is so nice
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>>68417192
>flat planar bass
I guess takstar pro 82s are planars now too
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>>68417219
I mean changing headphones lol
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I hear a faint click when I power on my amplifier while wearing headphones. Is this normal?
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Are rock zircons still a good choice?
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>>68417360
Yes.
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>>68417417
okay good I was freaking out like there was DC hitting the driver or something
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>>68412520
this is probably the shittiest post in this whole thread.
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do planar magnetic headphones require amplification in most cases?
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https://youtu.be/Xre8laDGAHQ?t=972

HAHAHA Holy fuck this nigga insane
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>>68417219
lol, no.
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>>68417715
/ourguy/, god of chaos
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>>68417715
not funny
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>>68416810
Get the PC37X on Massdrop instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spktoWVAlTU

Keep the Pro 82 so you have both an open-back and closed-back headphone to use.
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should i get the HE4XX? hows the build quality on them
i don't even know what planar magnetic even means
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you made me do this
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>>68418254
based and budget-fi-pilled
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>>68418017
how do i get these without the built-in mic

they look so nice, most of these hi-fi cans look like a highschooler designed them
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Is the HD599 really that bad of an option compared to the HD600?

I listened to the HD599 and it sounded pretty damn good, certainly better than my current headset.
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>>68415050
I never knew i wanted a volume knob for my computer

A. Get headphone amp & dac
1. Design first "audiophile" mech keyboard with built-in usb-powered dac and media controls


>>68418302
If you're looking at cans in this price range idk why you wouldn't get the HD600, it's been the gold standard for a fucking decade

That said, probably not. Whichever has thw visual deaign/frequency response you prefer, go for it
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>>68412173
how do mid range headphones vs iems like the tin t2 compare? i tried the tin t2s and the hd650s and really there isnt a massive difference
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>>68418316
>If you're looking at cans in this price range idk why you wouldn't get the HD600, it's been the gold standard for a fucking decade
Well here's the thing, the plan was originally to spend $200-$250 AUD (which is around $150-$180 USD) for a strong enough upgrade over my Kingston Hyper X Headset which I've grown tired of, so I was growing tempted to go something like HD569 or ATH-M50x. Then I got persuaded to go for an open pair and started considering HD579, HD599 and Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro, which costs a bit more, but still manageable. Next thing I know, I'm getting told to go HD600-650, that it's the gold standard of headphones, but it costs a good chunk more than say, the HD599, and may or may not require a $100-$200 amp.

Just to re-iterate, this piece of shit is what I'm using now: https://www.centrecom.com.au/kingston-hyperx-cloud-pro-gaming-headset-silver
and while I have plenty of high bitrate .FLACs to listen to, I'm still unsure whether or not an HD600 justifies the investment. I'm not questioning whether it's worth the money, but whether or not someone like me should be investing that much on audio.
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>>68415600
Now imagine if you had HD600 to use at home.
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>>68416223
>lol are you retarded? schiit is absolute garbage, it's even worse than any onboard audio
Caught you spreading lies.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-schiit-modi-3-dac.4742/
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>>68416184
>I just went to a specialist audio store, and the guy told me
You should get oxygen free cables, yeah. It's an audio shop, news at 11.
Don't get the HD599, it's crap. HD600 will sound much better, out of your motherboard and out of anything else.
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>>68418808
>Don't get the HD599, it's crap
How?
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>>68416403
There's a shitload of HD600 owners here. No, you don't need an amp. Yes, it'll make it sound a little better if you have one. Yes, your motherboard's headphone amp does count as an amp.
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>>68418827
See pricing and then see HD579 vs HD599 reviews. If you get a 500 it should be 579.
Regardless, they're *all* crap next to HD600.
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>>68418829
This.
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Sometimes the volume dial on my amp gets a little crackly so I turn it back and forth quickly a few times past the crackly point and it gets better, but is it dangerous to do this? Like can it damage the amp or something?
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>>68418203
Build quality feels sturdy, on the drivers enclosure at least. Sound is fantastic, quite neutral with a peak in the treble that is pretty overbearing for a few songs, but a non-issue 98% of the time. Planars apparently are known for their bass, the bass on these are clean and pretty punchy. It's hard for me to recommend them since their quality control is suspect unless you're in America and willing to deal with the QC issues without much hassle. I personally had no issues.
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>>68418845
If you're going to bring in price, I live in Australia. HD579 isn't available here, but I can get an (supposedly new) HD599 off Ebay for $199 AUD($145USD), and the cheapest price at a retailer is $280 ($200 USD). In contrast, the cheapest brand new HD600 is $450 AUD ($330 USD). There's an auction for a used HD600 on Ebay that had 21 bids, with the latest bid at $255 AUD ($185 USD), and other used HD600s I've seen finished at around $270-$280 AUD (about $200 USD).

If you managed to follow all that, it just seems to me like the HD599 at $199 AUD represents the best value.
With used headphones, you can never really be sure, and it seems like there's a lot of demand for them in the used/bidding markets. I'm sure as hell not paying $330 USD for a pair.
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>>68418893
no it's just your resistor is tired out, better ones got potentiometer
will get worse, if you are handy can solder a new one in
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>>68418829
>it'll make it sound a little better if you have one.
they like power, most "no bass" complaints come from lack of power
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>>68418955
is this what the schiit stack is for?
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>>68418920
I paid $170 for an used pair of hd600. But have to replace the pads and headband. Seller didn't tell me in advance he removed most of the foam. Still feels like a good deal.
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>>68418964
smsl m6 is better, and cheaper, get that.
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>>68418970
I paid $175 for a like new open box pair :^)
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>>68418920
just get takstar 82 and call it a day. hifi is a meme anyway
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>>68419037
>hifi is a meme
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>>68418981
Lucky bastard :)
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>>68416232
>i suggest the chink darkvoice 336c
>$250 USD
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>>68419037
Something tells me I shouldn't be looking at chinkshit, at least not for headphones.
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>>68418275
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-598-SR-Open-Back/dp/B06WRMZZ45/
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girlfriend's akg y30's just died and she got money refund. she doesn't like my porta pro's. any lightweight, semi-open(?), cheap on-ear recommendations?
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>>68412450
Maki! <3
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>>68413835
because killing animals for earpads is not cool.
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>>68418302
Compared to the HD600, it's absolute garbage.
And the more you listen to both, the wider the gap would become.
Now, imagine fucking up and getting HD599 when you could get HD600 for a little more. Ending up spending near 2x the amount.
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>>68418920
>If you managed to follow all that, it just seems to me like the HD599 at $199 AUD represents the best value.
The HD600, used, would be much higher value.
HD599 aren't good headphones. They won't last you decades, nor will they sound excellent. Don't burn your money on them.
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Any black friday deals on Beyerdynamics boys?
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>>68419276
You could buy my used dt770 32 ohm or dt880 600 ohm. :)
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>>68419287
sent you a message about it ;)
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>>68419315
If by some chance you're actually interested they're new listings on ebay with a wood cabinet background in the photos. If you ACTUALLY message me with something sexy I can give you a good deal
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Whenever I use my earbuds, I can't use them as intended with the L marked one in my left ear and the R bud in my right ear because it falls out of my ears every time. But if I inverse them, L to right and R to left they stay there.
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Anyone know good Bluetooth earbuds for winter running? Current pair cannot function in cold weather
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>>68419382
okay
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>>68418970
I bought hd600 pads on ebay for $15 that were perfect knockoffs, you could try that.

Just checked and they've changed to new style pads for $7 though so they might be total dogshit anymore.
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>>68419382
That's pretty common
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>>68419229
Cringe! <\3
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>>68419511
>I bought hd600 pads on ebay for $15 that were perfect knockoffs
"Perfect" knockoffs? They may be the same shape, but I highly doubt they're made of the same materials. It'll alter the frequency response for the worse.

t. HD650 owner that just put new pads on yesterday
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Which one?
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>>68419577
Anon, have you not seen Love Live?
There's no better way to test your new headphones.
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>>68419689
The former is limp, and the latter is erect. You know what to do.
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Just found a good deal for Sennheiser HD600, code 04465. Does anybody know if this us the old model?
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>>68419763
How do you know it's a good deal?
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>>68419783
What kind of question is this? They're new, I know their MSP
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>>68419794
MSRP
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>>68419763
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Topping DX3 is available on Aliexpress from Aoshida, just in time for the 11.11 sales.

I'll probably get one, $185 after the discount seems like a pretty good deal.
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>>68419511
Bought cheap ones from Ali, might buy originals if i feel like these fuck up the sound like the other anon suggested. T any rate, just wanna replace the headband cushions.
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>>68419941
Fug, if I didn't just buy a XD-05 I would get this. Those Chinamen make good dac/amps
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>>68419941
Is this the new one? What's so great about it? Asking for a friend...
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>>68419941

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-topping-dx3pro-dac-and-headphone-amp.4967/


Looks pretty good. Even has a remote. I know i shouldn't spend my money anymore than i did the last few months, but this seems like a good deal.
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>>68419993
According to amir's review it's really good value, the only blemish the linearity measurement because of the noise level. Though to be fair I don't completely understand how that works, but a SINAD of 108dB, the connectivity, and an amp that doesn't distort even when fully driven seems rather hard to beat for the price

I want to replace my FiiO E10 with it, since I could use more power and a toslink input.
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>>68419604
it will not alter the frequency response noticeably
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>>68418017
I already own openback headphones, I just wanna know if I should return the pro 82 for the g633
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598/599 sound grainy compared to 600 but the sound stage is so much better on 598s and I own both.

But I much rather listen to my AKG K712s that are in completely different league than 598/600.
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>>68420067
>sound grainy
fuck off with your audiophool sland degenerate
"grainy" lol - can you even explain what does it mean and how can we we measure GRAIN? you have too much plankton in your brain retard
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>>68420067
I've got HD598 and HD600 and, well, I seldom ever use the HD598 anymore.
The "soundstage" it has sounds very artificial and forced, and it pretty much sucks in all categories when put next to the HD600.
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https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-audio-gd-nfb28-28-dac-and-headphone-amp.5147/
Reminder NFB sucks.
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>>68419941
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TOPPING-DX3-Pro-Desktop-Bluetooth-DAC-Amplifier-Decoder-XMOS-XU208-AK4493-OPA1612-Hifi-USB-DAC-Audio/32952269978.html
>$185 after the discount
What discount?
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>>68420175
It's not active yet, check the picture, the listing is new so it's probably not updated to include the 11.11 price as well.
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>>68420230
But not an European or USA warehouse. So what's the point. We´ll be paying taxes and the discount will be like it never existed. If it had a 1/4th aux input as well, it would be perfect. But seeing as it it now... Confliction comes to mind.
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>>68420250
Ever payed taxes from something posted from china?
Honestly asking.
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>>68420250
I'm EU too, the chinks always undervalue stuff so it skips customs. Worst case you have to forge an invoice, but I never had to do that for Chinese packages so far, only Japan.
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>>68420258
A few times. 163 euro would become 214 euro (243 dollar) for this thing in my country.
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I found some eqs to bring my headphones to the newest Harman target and it has totally changed how I look at headphones.
My dt990 with the eq sounds better than my hd650.
Hd660s with the eq sounds so much more correct and natural than it does stock.
The whole headphone market is totally fucking different when FR is irrelevant.
The improvement on my dt990 still has me floored 3 days later.
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>Budget
Around $150
>Location
Aus
>Source
Computer, guitar amp
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
high comfort for all day use
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can anyone help me find a 4-pin XLR to dual 1/4in mono female plug adapter?
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>>68420250
https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/dac-with-volume/topping-dx3-pro-dac-2x-ak4493eq-xmos-xu208-32bit768khz-headphone-amplifier-bluetooth-apt-x-hd-black-p-13453.html
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>>68420753
Should I replace my modi 2 and magni 3 with it? Or just replace the modi 2 with a modi 3 to keep matching units ORR just leave it?
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>>68420864
If you already have a magni 3 just replacing the modi 2 would make more sense, unless you need the extra functionality. Modi 2 is dog shit, but the 3 actually measures really favourably.
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>>68420052
It does.
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>>68420864
as just a DAC, the modi 3 is good enough unless you need BT or DSD, the DX3 pro is more of an all in one unit
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>>68420950
>>68420892
Well I'm aware of how poor the base modi 2 performs but it's my understanding that when listening to only CD quality stuff that it wouldn't make a difference audibly if I upgraded which is why I'm asking.
Bluetooth would be cool I have a pair of wireless beats ear buds I bought as a headset that I haven't used in forever but that's not a big deal.
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>>68420969
DX3 is only a Bluetooth receiver so it wouldn't work with your earbuds
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>>68420969
modi 2 performs poorly, but modi 3 has been reviewed by Amir and it does awesomely.





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