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Philosophy and General Thought Thread
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If you genuinely find interest in philosophy you're probably a paedophile
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This is a great thread. I'll contribute.
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imagine coming to the porn subset of a loser website to discuss philosophy
at least go to /sci/ and be a pleb there instead
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if someone could grant me the rest (if there is) of this i just posted. it would be really appreciated
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>>15287427
thanks anon this is really hot
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>>15286463
What's this from?
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>>15287780

we are
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>>15287821
my dinner with andre
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Bump

Top Tier Thread. Keep it going
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>>15288079
Thanks
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>>15287335
>>15287338
>>15287605
I really dislike it when some existential or supposedly deep message goes accompanied with ''inspirational music''. I feel like I'm being forced to feel or be into a certain estate of mind so that the speech is easier to accept. Save those cheap tactics for the movies and series.
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>>15288198
No such cheap tactics in art house films. Just keep your standards and expectations for a particular piece of work, but not all. What you linked are mostly documentaries I believe. My Dinner with Andre is a great example and it's in the OP.
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>>15286463
Inconceivable...
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>>15288198
zietgeist alike bullcr*p
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>>15287299
If you genuinely don't find interest in philosophy then you're probably a retard americunt.
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>>15286463
this is cringe
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>>15288503
Are you by any chance 12? It's one of those movies so uncommercial you'd never think to give it a chance. The plot is two old friends talking at a dinner. And it became both a critical and a commercial success and rightly so. Not to mention that role was Andre Gregory's film debut...
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>>15286463
>Boredom was invented by jews in the 20th century

Yeah makes sense. People weren't ever bored in the past.
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>>15287763
damn, they really had a great way of summarizing the human experience back then. plain english, easy to understand, but philosophically dense. interesting vid
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>>15288522
>(((Andre Gregory)))
my point exactly
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>>15288581
What point? You're just shitposting.
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>>15286463
I'm 14 and this is deep
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>>15288458
Alright pedo cope
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>>15288529
It wasn't always treated as an ailment to be assailed with a digital consumerist pleasure ointment.
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>>15286469
the fucking pan over to the dinosaur at the end...I lost it....
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>>15287381
I get the idea here, but I'd seriously rather be comfortable for the rest of my days than know any more suffering.

Because some suffering is just too much. I've known pain that I've never fully come back from. And the happiness of days past is simply a sad, distant memory to me now. Something gnawing at me, reminding me what I once was, but can now never be again, and not an achievable state of being. Suffering, on the other hand, is eternal and hillariously easy to achieve.

Now comfort is the best I can ever hope to achieve. And if that means never being happy again, but also never knowing suffering again, then I'm fine with that.

I think the idea that happiness and suffering have to coexist is a young person's ideal. They tell themselves this so they can still get up in the morning and endure that suffering, thinking that it means they'll be able to be happy some day, or some other, similar delusion.

The reality is that some people only know suffering, while others never really know it. There is no balance, as implied. Those who suffer greatly are often left unable to feel happy, even when in a happy situation. They can be destroyed by their suffering. Left too damaged by it to be able to experience anything else.

That's reality. Philosophy can suck my left nut.

And before anyone tries to argue that one who suffers simply has to be ready to accept happiness, think about this;
I have spent my whole life mentally ready for happiness. I have endured things I wouldn't wish on someone I hate. I now am fully mentally prepared for happiness and my current situation is totally fine. I should be happy. Yet I still know nothing better than comfort. The mere absense of suffering, but also the absense of happiness. So why then doesn't that childish philosophical ideal fix me? Because it's bullshit. And anyone who adheres to it is a moron, pulling the whool over their own eyes so that they can fool themselves into enduring life.
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>>15287763
>duplicate file exists here
Huh. Anyway, did you find that in the bonbi threads on /wsg/?
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>>15287299
And?
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>>15288458

This
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>>15286471
I used to like this until I saw it for what it is. Propaganda for Communism.
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>>15289147
Wow fuck you. Why should you give a shit if the guy who wrote it had communist sympathies? The message is for peace and understanding among man, and you can't dismiss it just because you don't agree with his specific political views.
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I came here to blow my load and you're blowing my mind.
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>>15289147
brainlet take
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>>15287407
Mckenna always hit the nail on the head
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>>15288944
I have to watch the woman I love suffer in pain every day of her life for no goddamn reason. What few moments of happiness we share together are often undercut by the bleak reality of our situation. There is no profound lesson to be learned here; just senseless, meaningless anguish. What I wouldn't give to see her living comfortably instead of in constant torment. Bless you, anon. You speak the true true.
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>>15289172
That 'peace' is the same 'peace' the UN preaches you young, naive, gullible fool. The 'rainbow' he mentions is a hint to new age philosophy. Science and progress leads to the happiness of all men? Are we happier now than they were over 100 years ago? Democracy is Socialism and the ultimate goal of Socialism is Communism.
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>>15289209
A factual take. His words are esoteric with exoteric descriptions.
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>>15289147
yea i support capitalism and its false scarcity. much better
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>>15286463

wtf u doin? choosing random crap to dump on /gif/ ?

doesnt work that way --

delete this now
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>>15289243
I think you need to get out more.
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What happnd 4 chan? !

both /b AND /gif are worthles
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>>15288198
I agree
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>>15286463
What nonsense dribble.
Boredom comes from a lack of goals or motivation. When someone is bombarded with stimuli they will feel bored or stagnant when it's taken away. A normal person will seek other things to do. A simpleton will just sit there waiting for more stimuli.
This isn't the construct of a prison but the failure of one's own creativity and motivation.
Escaping a prison by walking away means it wasn't a prison.
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>>15289333
>What nonsense dribble
Well, I think Andre's character was supposed to be like that. Half rational and logical and the other taking it too far into pseudo spiritual lunatic/hippy nonsense. He portrayed it perfectly as far as I'm concerned and even more so considering it was his acting debut.
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>>15289117
We are the borg. A global force, for good
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>>15287381
Nietzsche is placed on a pedestal. The idea here is that you can't know happiness without experiencing suffering. I think that's bullshit.

You can very well be explained about suffering, what it is, without having to endure it. The idea Friedrich Nietzsche is putting forward is something akin to you don't know what it is like to put your head under a lorry tire, then you don't know how to enjoy how to drive a lorry.

I mean, you can very well be taught about suffering, without having to experience it, by the power of imagination.

>>15288944
Has the right idea.
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>>15288944
My man, I know exactly how you feel. I have endured shit most my life, and am at a time now at 28 where I could finally experience happiness. Even though I am prepared for it, I am unable to disregard the past as it was, since it barely had a shine of solace.
I do believe however that some people suffer too much, and others too little. I am thankful that I was given a way out of seeking only comfort, and am able to pursue some semblance of happiness.
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>>15287763
anybody know the name of movie or educational video or whatever this came from?
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>>15289243
Oh my god, you are retarded.
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>>15289333
exposed yourself as an average poster when you said dribble instead of drivel XDD
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>>15287381
I can just hope Nietzsche was right.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8x73UW8Hjk
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>>15289243
youre right bro
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>>15289237
maybe if you stopped being such a lefty cuck you wouldn't be such a lil bitch about life ever think about that ya fucking wimp?
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>>15289445
welp, that's the most reddit thing I'll read today
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>>15287338

weird how he cant accept that there is no greater goal set for him in an authorative sense and that he needs to chose and give importance to things himself including himself. he needs to read some kafka^^
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>>15288529
t. Hollyj00z
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>>15289172
>>15289147
>>15289243
> Each of you fucking faggots, holds some idea, mostly beyond your autism. A peaceful and Grand community, a World of plenty, a home.
But see. You each do, as do I and millions of others. Your perfect ain't mine. I want silence, a cold stream, moss .
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>>15289278
THIS
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>>15287427

well descartes certainly did not consider sensory perception valueless. his scepticism was methodological and applied by him to give all perception inner and outer a grounding.
middle part is ok.
ending is fucked up.
the cosmos is not produced as in a hallucination nor is it a mere illusion according to kant. sensitivity and and rationality come together and to themselves in perception. what we perceive is called nature. it is not the things in themselves or what we might call the world in itself as it might exists independently from us. we perceive something that is can be given to us from outside due to our sensitivity but the structures and orders we can perceive them in are given a prori, they are begriffe applied in perception. but this also means that what we perceive in this way, can actually be perceived in this structured way within our means of apprehension namely space and time, as we have been granted the means to do so and not in any other way.
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>>15289355
From what I've gathered from Nietzsche is that it's not the about the individual having to experience everything in order to appreciate others (like appreciating happiness by suffering), but as a civilisation. Somewhat like a global collective, such as famine. Through famine we've genetically developed the idea of understanding suffering because of events that our ancestors went through. I think that's what he's getting at.

That you can't understand the other side truly, until you've experience this first (can't truly tell happiness without sadness).
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>>15286463
Damn, I saw a good webm on leftypol of Zizek about Triumph of the Will and extermination of the Jews. I wish I had saved it.
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>>15289887
shut up faggot
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>>15287381
I love de Botton's work. Also agree with what he's getting at. Suffering is the white paper that the ink of joy is written on.
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>>15288944
> nobody
You watch your dad die in a car crash? Mom raise you an 4 others by herself? Work since you were 10? Slaughtered my first pig at 8. Did you work your ass off in school and earn scholarships? Did you work fulltime in college? And come back home to marry your high school sweetheart? Just so she could kill herself and your son. In a fucking car crash? Life is tough. Every day I breakdown, mostly in the morning or like now... shit.
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>>15290030

have you actually read a text of him? biological genetics were not part of his work. and he is also at some point describing what seem to be individual stages of development (lion etc.)
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>>15290118

you think you won the suffering game?
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>>15287299
The intellectual sterility in your post is almost something to proud of. Almost.
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>>15289333

well one can be nudged into control, if you want to call it a prison is not the deciding factor
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>>15290118
I agree with in your initial response, that anon's post was pretentious. The idea of someone being "mentally prepared for happiness" was one of the most ironic statements I think I've read in a while, even for 4chan, but comparing one's suffering to other's is easily one of the worst mistakes any person can do.

Take Dr. Edith Eger, she survived Auschwitz and was found in a mass grave barely alive. She spent the rest of her life teaching people how to be happy.
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>>15289326
>enters thread about people sharing interesting ideas
>thinks this means 4chan is dead
Are you new or just plain stupid?
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>>15290162
> no holocosters of D00M
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>>15288944

You are correct on all accounts.
Some suffering and experience is not fixable. Or even if it is fear of future suffering stifles any potential for happiness. I have seen it many times.

Also, not even complete suffering in physical sense can compete with objective and realistic realization that there is no way to alleviate said suffering. Killing suffering in a sense budism suggests means killing any potential for happiness as well.
Some forms of suffering are objectively worse than others, loss of a child or a partner, however silent suffering of men is more prevalent in my experience.
Some of us, live in our own shadow every day. Hopelessness seeps into every action , and reality is jaded by it. how do you go on if dream you chased and achieved were temporary at best and bad for you at worst?
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>>15290131
Got better m7?
>>15290180
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>>15290162

lmao

>comparing one's suffering to other's is easily one of the worst mistakes any person can do.

goes on to write

>Take Dr. Edith Eger, she survived Auschwitz and was found in a mass grave barely alive. She spent the rest of her life teaching people how to be happy.

so you know be happy you must be if you compare your life to this random person which seems to be happy
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>>15290190
Chin up fren. It gets better
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>>15290231
I'm just saying we can compare lawns all day and it doesn't accomplish anything.
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>>15290237

I see, the comparison just seemed a bit incosistent with your previous claim^^
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>>15290237
Comparing creates contrasts.
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>>15290242
You're right, I just decided to mention it because when I was feeling particularly self-pitiful a few years back I decided to read a book about someone surviving far worse circumstances and still coming out of it a happy and accomplished person.

It helped put my own in a broader perspective.
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>>15290231
Comparing suffering is different than discussing ways to be happier.
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>>15289278
>being this retarded
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>>15290151
Ok I suppose if you're proud of being a kiddy fiddler... I suppose that is the point of philosophy...
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>>15286463
trick is jews produced that little blip. so you think they are setting you free and we are ensalved by white supremacists, but the real prison was created by jews. but you are too imprisoned to ever have the guts to admit it.
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>>15290287
what is this from please?
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>>15286463
You couldn't have a conversation like that nowadays. A fucking cellular phone would ring or a text message would interrupt you.
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>>15290339
Hogfather. Read Terry Pratchett.
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>>15286471
faggots using the inception ost. hans zimmer is cool but holy shit stop sucking his dick, he made the amazing spider man 2 ost with pharrel williams for crying out loud
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>>15289117
and its crazy to think some people can say this is fine
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>>15289243
Except groups such as the united nations are what that speech is taking about.
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>>15289995
Why do you want moss
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>>15288155
One of my faves
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>>15286469
I've actually met this guy in VRChat before. He's this Finnish dude that gets philosophical when he's drunk. I have him friended on steam.
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>>15289493
Exposed yourself as a lower-than-average poster by correcting someones grammer instead of adressing their argument
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Thank you for creating this thread!
I came to 4chan one last time to send off my current lifestyle and finding this has shown me a sign that I'm changing my life to a better version.
Over the last few years I haven't been my truest self, finding this thread among the usual static shows me I am right in wanting to not hold back anymore and be my truest self which includes stuff such as philosophy.
Peace out! :D <3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN-vMMpja30
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>>15289237
It may be senseless to your wife, but it clearly isn't for you. For all you know she's just a husk, a soulless vessel that tragedy can befall for you to observe and grow from. If she weren't struggling (or showing an illusion of struggling), then, undoubtedly, you wouldn't value her as much. And even as pathetic as you clearly are, you'd be even more pathetic having not experienced it. Get over yourself, be thankful for what you have and stop bitching about what you want. Also cloud atlas is shit and quoting it ironically or not makes you shit.
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>>15288848
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acedia
It was treated as an ailment, but cured with the help of the Lord
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>>15292236
Goodbye Anon. Hope the future holds greatness for you. Good luck.
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>>15289090
That was petty underrated, although he is paraphrasing Descartes
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>>15290027
Correct. Descartes was responding to the academic skepticism of the high middle ages, which had reached critical mass in the university and church. The medieval realists, viz., the franciscan and dominican orders (Scotus, Grosseteste, (Roger) Bacon for the former, and Aquinas for the latter), maintained that human reason was capable, by its own merits, of accessing a reality outside of the human mind, but figures such as Occam sought to undermine this by arguing for a number of skeptical conclusions. This skepticism made its way through the Renaissance right up until Descartes.

All Descartes was doing with his skepticism was adopting the medieval standard of answering questions within the scope of the assumptions made my one's interlocutors. So, Descartes permits skepticism in order to show that it logically leads to realism, or in other words, skepticism is self-defeating.

Kant ran with Descartes's view that there are at least some ideas that are derived from our mind's passively receiving information from an independently existing reality (Locke and Hume also thought this, but also thought that *all* of our ideas are passively received), and then attempts to construct nature out of the forms/categories that our minds *actively* contribute to sense perception.

Kant was fucking brilliant. He made an incredible philosophical compromise such that, if it works, it provides an immense amount of explanatory power to the stocks of questions most important to both rationalist philosophy and empiricist philosophy.

I think Kant makes a mistake in claiming that reality is in every sense "outside of our heads" (something the medievals called "nominalism"), so CS Peirce, the pragmatist, seeks to reconcile medieval realism within a general Kantian framework-- another brilliant philosophical compromise.
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>>15292351
Russell was a titan of 20th century philosophy, but I'd argue mostly this mostly with respect to his contributions to mathematical logic. Russell had a terrible habit of strawmanning a number of philosophical and theological views.

For example, he interprets monism as the view that there exists only one object, and then proceeds to argue that this view is unintelligible. However, as Johnathan Schaffer (2010) points out, monism is best understood as the view that there is one *basic* or *fundamental* object that grounds or constitutes the plurality of non-fundamental objects. Russell's strawman here lead him to misinterpret various aspects of the philosophy underpinning Christian theology, especially as it relates to the existence of God.

That philosophy (the one underpinning Christianity) might be wrong for other reasons, but Russell seems to have missed the point. He does this with a great deal of ancient, enlightenment, and 19th century philosophy as well.
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>>15292236
I certainly hope I don't see you again.
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>>15287335
this literally sounds like the ramblings of a nihilistic teenager.
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>>15286463
>be me
>tired of /lit/ with traditionalism thread
>decide to go /gif/ to fap
>first thread is this
>surprisingly good
>mfw
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>>15289676
Underated post
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>>15290086
Always wondered whether they filtered out astronauts on these types of mental stances to minimize the chance of them going crazy, apparently not.
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"Even though we live in a society that can afford the luxuries of fairness and equality, it is better to live like niggers, taking all that we can grasp, showing no regard for any other person or consideration of the future."

-Ayn Rand
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>>15292236
See you tomorrow bro x
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>>15288944
>That's reality. Philosophy can suck my left nut.
Dude philosophy is the attempt to explain reality...
It doesn't matter what level of status you hold in life, you will find something that will cause suffering, and from suffering happiness will inevitably manifest, or you die and it won't matter anyways.

A lot of philosophies have the same rhetoric, I think one of the easiest ways to explain it is Hegels dialectics.
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God dammit I came to gif to bust a nut, not watch a clip of My Dinner with Andre. And yet here I am.
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>>15289220
Yup. And he's 100% right.

I've always had the mindset that the internet will become the battle ground of ideologies colliding.
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>>15288944
kill yourself my man
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>>15287381
Doesn't this guy have a philosophy youtube?
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>>15289676
I had an uncle like this. Died of heart failure after ODing on PCP. This video made me feel.
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>>15290292
Now that I've seen this. I can't unsee it. He will always now be Kermit to me.
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>>15286463
only schopenhauer
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>>15290292
Lol, I remember this episode of the Muppet Show... good times.
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Bump
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>>15287335
>>15287335
If it weren't for the music,(created by some guy, you know like bugs do all the time) and the inebriated eloquence,(like bugs have) and the visuals, (created by math, science, the space program, satellites, high end photography, code, the very HD screen you're watching this on, etc....) I too, would think we were like the bugs outside, mindlessly eating your mom's roses.

top notch anon, now come inside and eat something that I wasn't going to give to my lady friend.
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>>15289090
The second part was straight boomer boilerplate. Russell never had to watch Britain turn moslim in one generation.
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>>15289117
The black guy says "Demarcasy"
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>>15288944
>>15288944
I do not think Nietchze wrote this to explain how to achieve happiness. And I believe it is pointed towards the more privileged, those who have been born into a life of happiness. And without ever touching the sad truth named despair, suffering, hardship you will never dare to grow beyond what you only know, comfortness.

He was often rambling on about becoming a better you, to grow as a person. Look at individuals that never dare to leave their bubble, they will never mature with age. You will always have the same fear for the tiniest of things, if you keep avoiding it. And by doing so you are limiting your happiness, as you need to work, take risks so in the end, you are able to reap what you sow.

If you never dare to endure suffering, you will never dare to face it later in life as you keep growing older. However if you dare to suffer you will grow in an unprecedented rate compared to those who have not. Which will let you mature and become a better individual.

Either you live and both twins grow, or you live in your religion of comfortables and never see them grow beyond that.
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>>15289117
Sinclair media is fucked
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>>15289278
>its false scarcity
what did he mean by this
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>>15294958
he does say "our Demarcasy"
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>>15292223
Exposed yourself as worthless swine incapable of thinking of anything original, to the point where you'd misspell "grammar" to "prove" your little point.
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>>15292842
>>decide to go /gif/ to fap
I do this, but always end up either stuck in rare threads like this, or trying to analyze the emotional states and body language of people having sex. We humans are an interesting bunch, I tell ya hwhat.
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>>15290287
Because not everyone acts just means that justice isn't a concept or isn't something we can strive towards? You can also just throw justice and morals out and still live in a society that is reasonably just and moral, many people act this way currently. ex: I don't kill my neighbor because I don't want to be killed myself, if I kill him then no one else would feel obligated to not kill me since I have shown that I do not obey the social contract. I also don't kill him because I don't want to be jailed. Can look at this a lot of other ways as well. Edgy btw
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>>15295586
kek
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>>15289090
> "our descendants"
The British are dead already lol.
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>>15295521
It's not portraying Justice as unworthy of practice, only that it's existence is not "real" in the way that the physical world or the laws that govern it are real. It is, as you say, a social contract, and therefor only as substantial as those involved deem it to be.

Murder is bad for all the reasons you listed, but can be done as Justice given certain circumstances. Can be Justified.

Morality is a "lie" in that it is only set by us, and does not exist beyond us. But belief in this lie is arguably the most important function of humanity there is.
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>>15295521
t. doesn't understand the concept of a metaphysical value
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>>15295586
He's right you know
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>>15289355
I think he means suffering leads to a type of enlighten if not enlightenment itself. There is certainly a spiritual journey involved in great suffering and strife. Nothing is quite like the real thing you can explain how water is wet to someone who has never come in contact but the feeling of it on your skin is a different experience.
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>>15288944
Happiness is a state of mind not some effect thrust upon you like a strong drug
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>>15295685
What an idiotic sentiment. For this to be true, Africa would have to be the most enlightened continent on the planet.
No. Enlightenment comes from seeing both extremes, and the journey from one to the other.
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>>15290238

That gets me to do a thick thonk man

How smart is this species of bird?
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>>15290287
I just fucking cried holy shit
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>>15290858
It would be fine if local news wasn't a total joke.
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>>15287405
esoteric boomerism man
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>>15287407
McKenna sounds like me Rogers on lsd
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM
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>>15286463
>Created by money
Fucking communist kill yourself.
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>>15289333
A city is designed around consumtion, not creativity. You could have goals and motivation in a literal prison as well but it would still limit your life a lot.
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>>15289676
This is a philosophy to live by.
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The problem with talkers is that all they do is talk.
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>>15295586
>he wouldn't grow nice looking vaginas and dicks on his yard
what a pleb
my yard will be full of genetically engineered schlongtises and cuntrees
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>>15289117
Just one company owns the news stations and gives them the same stories to run? What is your possible point? Fucking autists posting this shit as some point.
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>>15296757
Why do capitalists get so triggered?
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>>15286469
This is very basic stuff that you are bound to stumble upon while browsing internet, but kids in comments under youtube video act, as if it was somehow amazing insight.
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>expecting critical thought on 4chan
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>>15287690
/.douglas adams
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>>15292356
>I think Kant makes a mistake in claiming that reality is in every sense "outside of our heads"
did he really think that though
seems to me as if his entire epistemological system is based upon the fact that the apparatus with which we perceive the world belongs completely to the ones experiencing it, and that reality cannot stand independent from the ones who perceive it

I could be wrong however
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>>15288155
So true with what happend in XX century in Europe
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>>15287988
any german movies that have a similar tone? probably herzog now that i think about it
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>>15289090
Bertrand Russel - what a complete and total asshole. Facts over opinions? Facts ARE opinions.The rest is standard "be better people" slock.
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>>15288714
>>>reddit
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>>15287407
All ideology is toxic. Except MY ideology. My ideology is the truth. Fear of (very real) threat of nuclear annihilation is just "phobia". Take your drugs. Worship the bomb.
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>>15289676
FloriDUH put to the curb.
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>>15289676
>>15287381

Dinners at a fancy restaurant are as nothing compared to a Snapple to a thirsty nigga who has been hemmed up to a weed-wacker
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>>15290118
>a series of poor decisions makes me the winner of the tragedy Olympics
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>>15290292
Kek
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>>15290698
nice
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>>15289676
his channel is full of gold
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>>15299759

I will never not tear up when watching this.
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>>15286471
>hey guys, communism is great
>you should listen to me because I'm a famous actor
>just trust me, you guys
>you guys.
>hey, guys, trust me.
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JOIN /POW/ THE PURSUIT OF WISDOM DISCORD FOR WEEKLY DEBATES, LOW MODERATION, AND POLITICS /gTzDvG
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>>15292356
It's pretty elegant I would say.
Just like Locke and Descartes also like Hume at least in what concerns causality Kant has an uncertainty about the outer world at his core. Locke tries to override this by simply claiming simple ideas which we can gain via sensory perception do actually correctly represent some qualities of the objects we perceive. but still substance in itself remains fully hidden, only determinable as a neccesity, a carrier we have to think of in order to attribute what we perceive. therefore again there remains a gasping uncertainty. Kant puts this problem into a better structure (am not claiming this is all he does) and makes it more explicit.
And this is where i think you misunderstand his theory. Actually Kant is pretty clear on that though you might only have some issue with the termini. Nature is not the world in itself nature is exactly the field of interplay of some stimuli which can only be given to our senses in apperception. It is not some outside world. You get a good grasp on it if you read his definition of Noumenon (the thing in itself how it is independent of a subjects perception of it ). To Kant this term is senseless, empty as we can not have any concrete idea what that might even be. And this blows the door wide open for skepticism which is still part of the debate about his theories. Because it actually implies that we can't have any sensefull statement about something that we might imagine to be the outer world, but will never be able to recognise it. One simply could not make any factual statement about the outer world or any of it's imaginary parts, not even one that only claims it's existence.
Is the latter what you meant with >Kant ... claiming that reality is in every sense "outside of our heads"? If so you should not use the word reality as it is a totally different term within Kants theory.

Hm on the passively receiving ideas that at least in Lockes thinking would only apply to simple ideas if to any.
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>>15290698
Agreed.
Now explain what purpose is worthwhile.

I refuse to chase some purpose that has no purpose.
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>>15286463
>Vague angst
>Everybody's a robot except me

This is what dumb people think smart people sound like
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>>15298820

funny thing is you will never be able to claim for your statement to be factual

lmao
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>>15298506

nope you are right

see >>15299997
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>>15298752

true
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>>15298752
>>15300057

also rainer werner fassbinder could fit your taste
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>>15300037
>you will never be able to claim for your statement to be factual
Well, that's your opinion
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>>15300106

did you just say that x
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>>15286463
holy shit
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>>15286469
Refreshing honesty; yes, there is something great in those voids
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>>15286466
Where can I find the rest of this? Grazie!
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>>15290292
Oh fuck, well, not gonna unhear and see that anytime soon.
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>>15290698
WTF, now I love Nixon.
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>>15292236
This is almost the best McKenna I can remember hearing. He ruins everything by claiming a monopoly on the truth, even as he claims that nobody else really knows anything.
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>>15299766
Checked, but what the fuck was the point? One jerk-off thinks he knows any of us? Fuck him, them and you Anon.
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>>15292343
How insignificant we all seem compared to Sagan's monomaniacal pomposity
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>>15287381
Follow buddhist philosophy. Meditate. Suffering and happiness are illusions
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>>15300534
>*schlop* *schlop* *schlop*
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>>15300534
Pffff, I actually enjoyed the recent Peterson/Zizek debate; even if it was just the two of them kinda blowing each other the whole time. /pol/ is a clusterfuck and this is coming from someone who knows who the great enemy is; yet will still acknowledge they have good points to incorporate into ones views(to take them down). I would actually like more of him, his radical nature speaks to something primal in me.
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>>15289094

I like that. Thanks for sharing anon.
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>>15299756
The most wholesome thing in this thread
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>>15287612
Go back to your blacked and tranny theads, faggot
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>>15289122
Dear God that was creepy
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>>15300022
Suffering avoidance. Or death, as is the obvious best way to avoid it. Everything else appears as sub-optimal. Doesn't matter though, if we could act based on simple rationality like this none of us would be here.
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Is telepathy the real deal, what say thee?
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>>15286471
It sounds pretty fucking amazing until you realize he wasn't talking to Jews, but to everyone else except Jews, but Jews wrote his script, bankrolled the film, and paid him handsomely for his role in undermining everything decent by making the bad sound good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKl6WjfDqYA
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>>15300509
You really struggle with depression don't you? You know deep down in your core you aren't shit, so you lash out at anyone that calls you out on it.
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>>15295586
He's just a complete whack job
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>>15288512
michael cusack is amazing
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>>15287690
>american presidents are puppets
>i think up what the country should do all by my self

get a load of this retard
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>>15289147
Why would a communist quote the bible?
That makes no sense
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Man who fart in church, must sit in own pew. But the man who walks around with hands in pockets, feel cocky all day.
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>>15295762
For some it is a seed that can sprout in the dark or the light. It's a choice for those who never stop trying to make the right one, but for others who don't believe this, for those who are lost, as far as they are concered there never was one and there will never be a choice. Struggle does not simply always breed greatness, sometimes people stray too far and get lost in their mistakes, maybe even embrace them. Some find strength in the dark, this is because they know something the others dont, they aren't afraid and they thrive on looking despair in the face and knowing they don't need to live like that or feel like that and they know they found a way, and now maybe, when certain moments arise, they may be there to help someone who's lost their way. All it takes is one seed, one postive thought, gesture or a smile to make someones day better, if it doesn't, don't give up on yourself or others because we all have issues, leave that person alone if there's nothing you can do, sometimes they need to go down that path in order to really see.

Question everything you are
Everything you believe
Ask yourself if you're just bound to experience, and your perspective is what makes life more difficult. You can change you know, your perspective too for better or worse.
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>>15301220
"Science" is morally bankrupt - and Sagan is your great Clown God
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>>15286463
this was good before he brought up "muh holohoax." miss me with that fake shit.
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>>15289147
>Propaganda for Communism
This has a historical context. Pre-WW2 Communists preached passivity and non-violence at all costs in Democratic countries, because they wanted to soften up the West for a violent commie take-over.
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>>15287763
This is my favorite. Whats the full thing
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>>15288198
>doesn't have webms start in mute
>doesn't mute
You're not going to make it if you stay this way anon
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>>15288522
Literally couldn't make a movie like this now. Clerks is that last to do it right.
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>>15288944
>I'd seriously rather be comfortable for the rest of my days than know any more suffering.
then stop doing anything. lay on the floor till your end, way less effort and suffering. or the easy way, kys.
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>>15301925
>Literally couldn't make a movie like this now.
Not true. Just look away from Hollywood. That's all it takes. Not exactly the same movie, but interesting and independent movies are still here.
>Clerks is that last to do it right.
Thank you for the recommendation.
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>>15286469
What's this garbage?
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>>15298820
Facts are not opinions. In the continuum between ignorance and knowledge, there is opinion, when you both half know something and guess something from your ignorance, thus form an opinion.
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>>15288198
I do too. It's rather manipulative.
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>>15301776
some webms are of people speaking without any accompanying music, you fucking moron.
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>>15302437
Who were you trying to reply to?
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>>15286463
Andre had some good points, but he was fucking crazy at the end of the day the other guy/MC had a better pov.
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>>15298820
As >>15300037 pointed out, that's a self-defeating sentiment. If facts are opinions, then a statement about that is also an opinion.

Facts exist. Deal with it.
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>>15301753
Fuck off /pol/

>>15303035
I went back and rewatched it all recently, and frankly I don't think Andre is all *that* nuts. Someone should post the scene about meaningful conversation and cynical jokes: sums up 4chan pretty well.
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>>15289355
it's more about avoiding escapism than actually looking for the suffering. You shouldn't turn a blind eye to it, or do as if it doesn't exist, nor should you try to runaway from it.
Just inflicting yourself suffering is masochism. But if there's a goal, a reason for the pain, then it is wishable. Like how if you want to be a professional sportman, you're doomed to suffer a lot, both physically and psychologically, but it's healthy pain, it will make you grow, there's a goal for it.
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>>15301776
>checked for truth
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>>15298820
Hahaha such a fucking loser...kys
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>>15287299
Says the cumbrain from /gif/
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>>15288198
same
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>>15303319
>Hahaha such a fucking loser...kys
Interesting argument.
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>>15301820
jewtube air force gentleman training or whatever
its an air force vid talking about being a decent man, even mentions how blondes are nicer than brunettes
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>>15290287
Netflix fucked up Death Note, now they fuck up The Ancient Magus Bride goddamnit.
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>>15300278
esiste il reverse image search negro, comunque il video sembra essere venire dal film Propaganda (2012)
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>>15299756
i'm crying a lot because of this.
holy fucking shit i'm not as edgy as i think.
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>>15304789
pretend smart nigger debates actual smart nigger
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>>15300578
Fuck off Aiden
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>>15295762
Africa is so fertile that the native population didn't need to learn anything to continue surviving. They only experienced famine because western medicine and food aid allowed their population to expand past their means of production.
You basically just proved the point you were trying to disprove.
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>>15290287
I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS WHAT DEATH WOULD SOUND LIKE.
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>>15299756
the fuckin feels. love puts us in a place of vulnerability. I think it's worth it, even though in the end, only one is left.
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>>15299766
Henry Rollins is the man
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>>15288529
>People weren't ever bored in the past.
Probably not, they were probably either working or sick/dying.
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>>15286471
If he could have walked through a black hood or Mexican borough hed change his tune real quick.
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>>15289355
>>15295685
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The point is that suffering produces worth while lives. Ubermensch.
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>all these armchair philosopher replies

jesus im back in college philosophy class
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>>15287763
https://youtu.be/rjPXfcUxHY8
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>>15305640
Are you new enough here that you expected something else?
Also if you're trying to act superior to someone you might like to try using correct punctuation.
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>>15297182
Maybe if you thought about it for a second you might realize why that's a fucked up situation.
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>>15299211
Abhorrence of ideology is not an ideology.
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>>15302302
>Facts are not opinions.
Thanks for your opinion
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>>15305649
grazie mille! I nominate you for the /gif participation award!
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>>15287381
That which doesn't kill us, is generally good for us, because it toughens us up, inures us to future suffering, reducing the anxiety over possible suffering which is usually one of the most painful parts of it; also, makes us appreciate the simple integrity of the moment, even if it is devoid of all other comfort.
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>>15289147
Chaplin was not a communist
He was not a communist. He had communist freinds, he was a socialist sympathiser, he was super liberal.
BUT never once in his life, did he donate any of his money to the communist party, which a hardass FBI Agent Hoover tried really hard to pin on him. Hoover spent his time in the FBI trying to prove Chaplin was a commie because he saw his movies as a threat to the American dogma.
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>>15290356
>cellular phone
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>>15306062
You know it's funny, the Nazis tried the same thing. They called Chaplin the "Comedy Jew." Of course, Chaplin wasn't Jewish. British Anglican, later agnostic.
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>>15306338
His career was a another product of Jewish racism because Hollywood thought he was Jewish.
https://www.jewishquarterly.org/2010/11/charlie-chaplin-jewish-or-goyish/
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>>15303144
i agree, there's no doubt some pretentiousness in this movie. but there's a grain of truth in what Andre is saying and what Wallace is saying. There's a greater truth that both of them are blending together in each scene. It's something to watch out for.
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>>15306600
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>>15288198
True, which is why I find bob ross' painting show very special. Dude has 400 programs of just him and a canvas, no background, no music, and it's still very much enjoyable, both for entertainment and for his message.
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>>15306702
That theme song fuckin slaps though
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>>15290238
Seems dangerous... what if the birb decided to look directly at the laser?
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>>15306601
no sound..... fucking sort it out
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>>15286469
>I just want to think that something great is in there, in those voids... And I'm real
Fuck me senpai, alcohol is a portal för this man to enter into a world of philosophy and existential thoughts
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>>15301541
Who's pulling Assad's strings then? The Jews desperately want him killed and are trying to get the US military to do it.
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>>15289090
This is the most mundane, boilerplate, milquetoast bullshit I've ever heard.
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>>15306763
>alcohol is a portal
In vino veritas. The symposium was the first portal.
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>>15289117
>>15289122

The goal is clear absolute misdirection what you think its about has nothing to do with what it is.

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

The US is a Republic vs Russia and China a Democracy based communist system.

Conditioning to make everyone believe a lie.
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>>15301663
>Man who fart in church, must sit in own pew.
Where in the KJV is this?
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>>15299756
60 fucking years. Imagine that shit. Losing your partner of 60 years and just suddenly being alone.
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>>15305784
>Abhorrence of ideology
Nihilism
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>>15306958
Ah, the vicious cycle of sobriety.
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>>15304789
blown the fuck out
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>>15301750
Science has no room for morality. Keep lying to yourself, and save me from your amen choir.
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>>15299759
I'm 14 and this is deep
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>>15307528
Does it hurt being so contrarian? it's a nice little music video, if you don't like it that's fine, but don't condescend to those who do.
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>>15289094
In case anyone is curious about the classical song used in this
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>>15290086
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_effect

>>15293373
They tend to. NASA has spent decades studying the personalities most suitable for space flight. In the early days you had stuff like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylab_controversy
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>>15287335
This is what communism does to your brain.
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>>15288629
I've watched the film and can confirm it is one of the most neurotically Jewish things I've ever seen.
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>>15289122
This kind of video is just a meme. The reason this happens is that local stations are owned by a media group who release these kinds of press release statements when something arises that concerns the station. There is literally no scandal with this practice -- the author should have made a video of the exact same story being reported across different stations (which is also a normally occurring thing) and that they didn't should put the situation in perspective for anyone
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>>15290191
There is always worse. Don't be ignorant.
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>>15308382
Yeah, really fascinating. I don't recall Jewish people being mentioned at all in the movie, but then again I've only visited /pol/ a couple of times out of curiosity.
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>>15289147
So anti-dictator equals communist? How very tRumpian of you. How about you go back where you cam from?
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