Alright /H/, redpill me on NTR.
>>5359920A gentleman's fetish.
>>5359920it the best one
Not a redpill but i have a question too: What's the appeal of NTR ? Is ist projecting yourself into the ugly guy ? Is it projecting yourself into the cuck ? Or even the woman ?
First step in enjoying NTR: Don't self-insert into any of the characters like normies do and just fap to the degeneration that's unfolding.
I like the downfall of the heroine. Fun read from “I’m independent” to “I want dick.”And never self-insert as the beta. You’re the alpha, so be in control. If you self-insert as the beta, you’re a cuck.
>>5359920it moves my dick, so i like it as i self insert either as the bull or the woman, but vainilla moves my heart so i prefer it, ultimatly i like both, and people who hate the other are stupid as shit for hating on drawings
>>5360081Alphas can self insert to anything and not care, betas care what they self insert as.
>>5360066All three. Depends who you ask. Also people who just like corruption. Maybe even a few who just like drama.
>>5360066For me it's none of the above. Why does everyone try and self insert in Chinese ink productions? I simply enjoy the corruption and suffering of fictional characters.
It's a fetish for people without girlfriends to jerk off to characters losing them.
i get off on the girl enjoying herself, if u get on sad guys whatever floats your boat
>>5359920It sucks, it's distracting me from the good character designes and sexy action by cuting to some crying faggot every 2 seconds.
>>5359920I like ntr when I self insert as the chad. It's hot when you take a girl away from her retarded boyfriend/husband.
>>5359920people get offened by it because they always imagine themselves in the role of the cuck. THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE BETA IN NATURE. I'd love to fuck some dude's wife and make them my bitch... If your dick don't get hard off fucking a girl, you are gay; If you don't like NTR, you are a cuck
imagine being such a conformist cuck, you willingly restrict your imaginative perversions to what's possible and uncontroversial in cultural reality. vanilla cucks are the christcucks of porn
>>5360066Neither. This is why I feel people don't understand the appeal of NTR, a lot of people trying to self-insert when that's not what the genre is about.NTR is about corruption, the degradation of the woman and her eventual succumbing as well as the despair of the cucked MC. You don't self insert in NTR, you fap to the misery of the characters.
>>5360240This anon knows.
>>5360240>you fap to the misery of the characters.Disgusting.
>>5360287It's fictional characters you moralfag. Go back to your vanilla lolis- oh wait.
>>5359920The girl's descent into dark pleasure is like a drug that gets you addicted.I can't speak for others but I have a cycle where if I consume too much NTR, actual vanilla starts to turn me on more and more until I get sick of it and wish misfortune on a vanilla couple.
>>5359920if u rage then u just get Cuck but if u don't you'll feel interested and fresh
>>5360240>>5360336Moral degeneration is a thing and has its own tag. NTR is about the suffering of the guy, nothing else. NTR certainly has moral degeneration it in, but it's mainly about that suffering which puts a lot of people off.
>>5360112>Getting off on the suffering of fictional charactersPatrician taste my dude.
i like when the girls forces the cuck to eat the spunk from her pussy
>>5360400>Moral degeneration is a thing and has its own tag.No, that's an entirely different type of degeneration, is not the same.
>>5360185Sauce for this Doujin please ?
It's the thinking man's fetish.
>>5360240>why would you?
>>5360185>t.cuck with delusions of grandeur
>>5360591I don't get this meme. Every NTR story is the same.
I like NTR because it commonly has the straight-laced, tough girl succumbing to the dick
>>5359920Everyone in this thread celebrating NTR has a mental disorder to an extent and should consult a professional on how they can get better.It is not a fetish.
>>5359920It’s just cheating that’s meant to make you feel bad.
if it makes you that mad that people express themselves through a 2d medium, you just might be a fascist. you can’t distinguish between fantasy and reality and there is no convincing you that people like things you don’t like.
>>5360185>is this what my bull thinks: the post
>>5360085>that caption imageYeah, vanilla is pretty much fucked. Nobody was ever really into vanilla. Without the internet nobody knew how many people shared their fetishes and thought they were unique snowflakes for liking feet or whatever. Turns out there are tens of millions of people sharing even the most supposedly-obscure fetishes.
>>5360185>people get offened by it because they always imagine themselves in the role of the cuck.This actually sounds like it's true, why else would anyone rage so hard at NTR? The cheating depicted is just porn, it's not real life.
I don't know nigga I don't even think about the emotional aspect of relationships anymore. I've been single for years and years and I don't think about the interpersonal relationships of the drawings I fap to. I just see big boobs and big dicks and it makes me cum twice a day.
>>5359920Monogamy is a lie. You are keeping your woman from her natural desires if you don't let her fuck other men.
>>5361086>you can’t distinguish between fantasy and reality and there is no convincing you that people like things you don’t like.>>5361239>The cheating depicted is just porn, it's not real life.I hear this line of thinking all the time, and it never makes sense. Do you just not feel anything at all from fiction?
>>5361292>Monogamy is a lie. You are keeping your woman from her natural desires if you don't let her fuck other men.this. we have multimillion dollar tv shows of men with multiple partners. surely women are capable of having multiple partners as well. shitting up NTR threads is irrational and unwarranted. let people be free to do what they wish. the only mentally ill people are those who can't leave others be
>>5361292>>5361317So you're the sort that thinks women are naturally slutty, and bulls are good people revealing their true selves, right?
>>5360240There are multiple appeals anon. There isn't just one reason. There are people who actually likes self inserting which is why you get those cucked MCs with no faces, or you get the unattractive characters that's trying to steal from a more good looking person which can be more relatable. They can enjoy the misery and the fuckfest on the outside without inserting themself in the story at all or enjoy the degradation and corruption. I'm sure everyone has their own reasons and that's good. A fetish shouldn't restrict you to one thing.
>>5361239>>5360185I'm a huge ntrfag here but let's not be dumb here. It's just human nature that people don't want to see happiness ruined between two lovers because of a rapist and manipulator. It's only the small numbers that do enjoy it. NTR purposesly tries to make viewers feel mad and jealous. That's one of the reasons. Good NTR stories give a lot of development to couples which makes the NTR much more impactful at the end. Any normal people would be upset. People can relate to love and when that shit happens, it hurts a lot because you feel for the couple. Unfortunately, we're not so normal here.
>>5361325no I'm saying if you fantasize about having multiple sexual partners, with or without your significant other knowing, then women probably do too. men have always been shown having affairs in popular media so there is no reason to get angry over popular media showing women doing it too.
>>5360427Moral degeneration tag description from sad panda>Removing a person's moral standing towards sex, effectively turning them into loose guy or girl, AKA slutBut I supposed you're more focused on the "becoming a gyaru" part.>>5361025>>5361329Definition of a fetish>a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body.A fetish is, by definition, restrictive since it's about one particular point of focus and any fetish can be classified as a mental disorder since it is "to an abnormal degree" or excessive.>>5361239>>5360185People self insert as the cuck because he's usually the protagonist, which is what you're normally supposed to self insert or sympathize with. The story is written from his perspective and the author tries to drag out his misery for as long as possible for maximum effect, which is what NTRfags enjoy. You can't get mad at people for self inserting when that was the clear intent of the author.>>5361239Yes it's not real life that's why no one felt anything when Mufasa died to the stampede, or when Luke lost his hand in the battle with Vader, or when Frodo nearly died during the spider attack until Sam saved him, or when Pandora was being destroyed by the humans in Avatar. Obviously humans have no natural tendency towards empathy or sympathy and never form attachments to inanimate objects either. But yeah it's not real life anon thanks for pointing that out.
>>5361317>>5361363NTR isn't about women having multiple partners, it's about them being stolen away from the cuck. You're missing the point.
>>5361367>A fetish is, by definition, restrictive since it's about one particular point of focus and any fetish can be classified as a mental disorder since it is "to an abnormal degree" or excessive.My point is that there are many reasons why someone would have a specific fetish and that fetishes have many appeals to them which makes them great. One person can like NTR because they like to self insert and they get off from that. The other can just enjoy the suffering. It's a stupid thing to assume every person who likes NTR are cucks because not everyone is the same.
It doesn't matter who you insert as. NTR serves as a reminder that no matter how confident you are in your appearance or how alpha you think you are you can never be 100% sure that your significant other isn't screwing some old flame or even bigger Chad behind your back.Bad feels. Stay away.
From an evolutionary standpoint, NTR has to do with our basic instinctual desire to reproduce.For example, if a male monkey sees another male monkey mating with his partner, then the first monkey will become aroused and want to mate, so that his sperm may "compete" with the other monkey's to see which one can get the female pregnant.In fact, some evolutionary biologists believe that the distinctive "bellend" of the human penis is biologically designed to "scrape out" the semen of other males during intercourse.
>>5359920you need to be a real man to enjoy NTR
>>5359920>self inserted as the bull>now self insert as the cuckbros??
>>5361296>Do you just not feel anything at all from fiction?Most people feel something, but most people also can tell it is not real. Mixing reality with fiction is a sign on mental illness, and these people should get help.
>>5359920Personally i only watch/read ntr because I like to watch others physically and emotionally suffer, especially the females being degraded to sluts it makes me feel secure as a sadist. I never self insert as the chad or cuck because I wouldn't be able to relate, my favorite ntr is tachibanna circumstances
I thought people liked it because they loved seeing women get physically and mentally dominated by cock like me, but apparently most people self-insert as the cuck which confuses me.
>>5362409>not self inserting as the womangrow up anon
IRL cuckolding gets unfairly treated, too IMO. seriously, imagine the confidence and mental fortitude it takes to let another man use your partner for what we consider to be the most intimate relation between two people. i like NTR hentai but i couldn't imagine myself participating in it IRL neither as the bull or cuck because i'm weaker than those who do engage in it. that kind of mentality should be admired, not shunned. sort of like if a two year old willingly lets another less fortunate child borrow his most cherished toy. it's a sign of maturity and self assurance. there are other, if not more, important things to define love than exclusively monogamous sex. you can't say a wife does not love her husband or family if she simply has sex with another man with that said, it's certainly understandable why people would get mad at cheating and would sever all contact because exclusively monogamous sex is a deal breaker. however, it would be unreasonable to go out of your way and shit on those who do like NTR. you can't impose your arbitrary morality and world view onto anyone else but you.
>>5361367>You can't get mad at people for self inserting when that was the clear intent of the author.>self inserting as the cuck is ALWAYS the author's intentAre you the author? You do know everybody is free to interpret art how they choose? It's just a hunch, but you may be projecting here. Like many others have already said, everybody likes NTR for different reasons. Don't assume everyone has your beta brain.
>>5361452lol do you want to be in a relationship with an automaton? of course there's always a chance your significant other will cheat, man or woman. what do you think people are? the random chance is what makes us human i'm sure i've seen animes on this
>>5361187>vanilla is pretty much fuckedI don't think you understand the context of that image, anon.
>>5362587>ALWAYSNice strawman. I said that it was the intent of the author based on the fact that the cuck is the protagonist and the story is told from his perspective. You're supposed to sympathize with the protagonist of a story and that character is usually the audience's vector into the story's world. That doesn't mean this is true for every story, but most of them are written in this way. If a story is drawn with a faceless or every-man protagonist in which the author takes extra effort to set up his long standing relationship (childhood friend), depict his pained expressions, and inner monologues, it can be inferred that the author's intent was for the audience to sympathize with the protagonist. Clearly everyone is free to self insert as whoever they please, which can be separate from the author's intent. Now the story could certainly be told from the girl's perspective, as is the case with cheating stories, or the bull's perspective, as is the case with netori stories. I even recently played a VN where the audience is just a bystander watching the events unfold. Have you even been to high school? I know I had to analyze literature in this exact way all the time, so it certainly isn't something controversial.
>>5362577I know what you mean, but what you're describing usually takes place in a form of swinging where two couples exchange partners and go at it. While IRL cuckolding could be the way you described, it could also be because the guy feels like he can't adequately please his SO and gives her out to someone who can so that she's not sexually frustrated.
>>5361367>when Pandora was being destroyed by the humans in Avatarthat shit made me hard. Alien lovers get out we have a galaxy to explore.
>>5362332>Tachibana-san againThis shit barely qualifies as NTR why do you faggots cling to it? It's a story about three cumdumps who change ownership, not about a faithful wife or girlfriend getting into an affair.
>>5362657i think you missed the point. even assuming it's the author's intent for the audience to sympathize with the cuck, it does not matter because everyone is free to enjoy art however they wish. some people like the perspective of the cuck, the bull, or the woman. it's irrational to assert anyone else interprets art in the same way you do. let's assume i self insert as the cuck like you do. what if i happen to like the thought of my wife cheating on me without my knowledge? to you, that may be an unjustifiable and immoral wrong committed against you, but it may not be to me. that does not make me any less of a person than you and it makes no sense to rage at people who like different things than you do. moreover, we're talking about porn here, nobody's stalking facebook and urging real people to cheat on their spouses so please do tell what is the real world harm NTR fans are causing.
>>5359920It's a defilement fetish. Notice how they tend to involve evil scumbags, middle aged fat ugly motherfuckers, or black guys (omg she is having sex with a subhuman!). It's a pretty pathetic fetish, but easy to understand why some guys have it.You ever notice how rare it is to see NTR where the guy is handsome, likeable, and overall a good person?
>>5362743>You ever notice how rare it is to see NTR where the guy is handsome, likeable, and overall a good person?Isn't that what netori is?
>>5362745Netori is about the protagonist stealing someone away.
>>5362740You seemed to have missed the point as well since my comment contains>Clearly everyone is free to self insert as whoever they please, which can be separate from the author's intent.I completely understand that a picture is worth a thousand words/interpretations, but that doesn't change the fact that an author usually has one particular path that they try to guide the audience through, which is through the protagonist. I never claimed that I self insert as the cuck, nor that I dislike people interpreting things differently, or that watching NTR causes real world harm, so you've just created another strawman. My only point in the original comment is that you can't rage at those that self insert as the cuck because that was the author's intent since the story is usually told through the protagonist's eyes. It doesn't make someone a beta in any way to sympathize with the protagonist's suffering because that is exactly what the author was intending to do. It doesn't even make any sense for people ITT to bring out their M.D.s in Psychology and claim that people must be cucks irl because they are projecting their own desires onto the characters, even though the author specifically designed the character that way to evoke emotions. Unfortunately, no one here can address any of this without misrepresenting the entire argument.
NTR is like salt.Lots of dishes can become more delicious if you sprinkle it to them, and specific recipe even need shitton of it.However people who likes their food sweet gets salty when you add it to the dish.
>>5361187>ITT Unenlightened anon, both about the context of the image and vanilla
>>5362667>top 3 ntr>barelynigger what
>>5362577>you can't impose your arbitrary morality and world view onto anyone else but youIs not about imposing, it's about that "thing" should been given to you idealy when you were a kid and you somehow lost along the way (or in the case it was never presented to you then i can only offer my condolences) and it ends up leading to some of the posts in this thread.Other than, yes, both NTR sympathizers and people who don't like it should take the curse of action of "i don't fuck with you, you don't fuck with me", but to the first grup i would like to ask to read " https://e-hentai.org/g/1360792/4361ae7e8b/ " and give me an honest opinion, nothing more, nothing less.
>>5359920>filename>incest animefucking killyourself casual
>>5362938>it's about that "thing" should been given to you idealy when you were a kid and you somehow lost along the waywhat is that "thing", conformity? state or religious institutional indoctrination telling you how to live and what not to do? you're longing for a mythical past that never was. people are unique individuals, not NPCs that can be defined by a thousand year old text written by old rich jew trolls. consider for example identical twins. they're born in the same household, taught the same religion, and exposed to the same media. the two are going to grow up to be completely different people with different passions. one could be gay and the other straight. no two people have the same brain, so we naturally have urges to express ourselves in different manners. what prevented us from doing it in the past and gives you the perception that none of it existed is the unnatural use of force to criminalize anyone who dares defy the state and religious approved way of living while those at the top were always free to fuck little boys and steal soldiers' wives while they went to war. i guarantee you the most fucked up people aren't those who openly talk about "out of the mainstream" fetishes like NTR, it's those who deny they have any.
>>5363029I just found a random fucking image to post. Don't judge my tastes based upon a Google search
>>5359920Now its overdone and has become stale, even more so than vanilla. Virtually EVERYONE has done it and It just doesn't do it for me anymore.
>Turns out there are tens of millions of people sharing even the most supposedly-obscure fetishes.Uhm... let me remind you of a certain tile fetish.
>>5361187Yeah you don't get the picture.Also, are you sure that all these fetishes you have are yours and stem from you? Maybe you have many of them because, in one way or another, you have been exposed to them constantly and have subconsciously normalize them?
>>5362587>It's called hentai, and it's art
>>5362667The art is hot so who careMost ntr story doesnt make sense anyway
its a great combination of fetishes that hit all my buttons
>>5360140Where is the image from? It doesn't even look like it's from hentai.
>>5360097>alpha insert as cuck>not care about getting cuckedI... guess...? Not to sure if that defeats the purpose, but if you wanna insert yourself as the cuck and still call yourself alpha, then sure anon
>>5361627>TRULY the thinking man's fetishLook at this scientific explanation. I bet this is actually the objective reality of NTR. Zero fucks about feelings given, just hard facts. Based and redpilled as fuck.
>>5364122>basic instinctual desire>thinkingPick one.
>>5364126>instinctual desire excludes and cannot co-exist with enlightened thoughtno, I choose both because I'm not a brainlet who lacks self-awareness and intellectual honesty
>>5359920you self insert as the dude who fucks the other dudes girlfriend and he does nothing about it.
>>5361627>taking turns with a whore, fuckin that pussy together with your brosTruly the best fetish
>>5364202>semen reinforces how attractive she is>no limit to the depraved things she'll do for more>ywn have bro time and hoe time
>>5362667Vanillafags self inserting into the shota cuck is nothing new. They did that in tachibana-san and got mad when their fictional harem got taken away from them.
>>5364126cucks aren't know for being bright anon
NTR is top tier when one of the girls in a yuri relationship gets cucked and later fucked
You guys are like little babies.
>>5364309Still cum a lot because goddamn, that orgy is hot
>>5362332Is he a fucking ghost?
>Only cuckfags like NTR>That means you're a cuckfagHaha cuckfag.
>>5360066>>5360240>>5360112These. Except I fap to the woman feeling pleasure IN SPITE of the fact that they know a man who loves them is feeling miserable right now. Its the idea that a woman can feel so much pleasure that guilt and everything negative does not matter at that moment (or even afterwards if she gets a good enough fucking).Bonus points if the beta in the story is a virgin, and is close friends with the girl, but not done anything romantic with her (but she leads him on). And if the girl is a virgin herself and innocent, pure and sweet, its even better watching the transformation happen. Bonus bonus points if the girl is corrupted after getting raped and then blackmailed because the man took photos of her degraded. And ultra bonus points if the girl is impregnated by the end, and that's how the beta finds out she's been with another man.
>>5359920Netorare is actually quite enjoyable if you self insert as the girl/heroine who's getting fucked by the chad/ugly bastard/scumbag shota.
>>5359920Don't try to put any logic as why she doesn't go for help. It wouldn't be NTR if the bitch doesn't get raped, corrupted, and betrays her lover. It's pointless.
>>5359920It's not THE worst fetish, that's still mind break, but considering how often NTR involves that it's not much better. Second worst.
>>53599201.watching women be corrupted is hot2.If you ever 'stolen' someones girl at a club or bar, or just in general. there aren't many better feelings out there, so stealing someones wife/gf is just the highest form of that.3.if you're cuckish, the excitement from seeing a women you own being taken by others can be hot.
>>5366135The number one spot for worst fetish is formicophilia/insects, and that is a fact, not an opinion.
>>5359920If you are the ugly bastard, raping some random faggot's GF you are the alpha even if you look like Jabba the Hutt.
>>5359920Your girl is so hot she can please multiple men.
>>5360066It's porn for women to feel better than their partner.The feeling that they can find or do better than them.Cheating on your partner with someone with a bigger cock is the closest thing for women to actually dominate and feel stronger than their partner.All other femdom play is just that a play. its pretend. But rubbing your partners face in the fact you can do better than them is real.So to summarize this is the only true way for women to dominate their partner.
>>5363674'Kokuhaku wa Asoko no Oku de" by Takano Yukihttps://e-hentai.org/s/334b194c8c/1063720-3https://exhentai.org/s/334b194c8c/1063720-3
>>5359920for me it depends of who is the MCif the cuck is the MC then I don't like itif the guy who's actually fucking the girl, then it's an ok from meand if the girl is the MC it's just weird
>>5365777Everything you described at the end is cheating, not NTR, which is actually what I enjoy the most. In fact, RJ241553 had an ending just like that; although, the girl had sex with her boyfriend a few times before the corruption.
>cucks like NTR because X>men like NTR because Y>women like NTR because Zyou do know every one of you is projecting? you can't read anybody else's mind but your own(maybe). you either like it, or you don't. no need to justify it.
>>5367543>ProjectingYou do know that's not what that word means right? >Projection - a form of defense in which unwanted feelings are displaced onto another person, where they then appear as a threat from the external world.For it to be projection there would have to be a feeling that was causing someone extreme stress which they then project to and accuse someone else of feeling. If you're just guessing the explanations behind someone else's behavior, the word you're looking for is "rationalization." At least crack open a book before you start using Psychology terms.
>>5365777I still don't understand why they think photos will be useful in blackmail. A lot of women now are like "nice send me them, so I can post them on my pornhub profile!"
>>5367841Shame is powerful in Japan. And citation needed.
>>5367870So what you're saying is after you've been raped, someone creating evidence of your rape and threatening to release the evidence and incriminate himself brings you shame? This is Japan not Saudi Arabia.
>>5368110I mean, Japanese women who get groped in trains don't do anything about it because one of the reason is that they don't want to be late for work. So, you can imagine how crazy their reasoning for not acting against crime. Stereotypes always have some truth to them unfortunately. Japan is considered to have one of the lowest crime rate but who truly knows how much gets unreported.
>>5360066NTR doesn't always have ugly guys as the bulls, infact it's more common for the bulls to be average and even above average looking.
ive grown to like it just because i want to NTR someone IRL
>>5359920Just insert yourself as the one doing the cucking, its not rocket science.
>>5366837Redpilled as fuck
>>5368255You're reading these stories so much that you are starting to project it onto society.
>>5368360I think you're actually retarded and you're just hiding completely from any possible truth. I'm just saying there's some truth to it and there's a huge possibility. I'm judging this based on hundreds of articles where sex crime and molestation is a huge issue in Japan. Many many get unreported to the point where you even have a train exclusively for females and you have to go deep as to why by looking at their mindset behind not reporting the crime. It's flawed logic which you yourself think is unrealistic and it doesn't exist in real life but it's definitely real. Please don't be ignorant.
The ugly tragedy for men is that they can fall in love with more than one woman, but they will never be able to practically support more than one relationship at a time; not without doing harm to themselves, the women they love, and the society they live in.The ugly tragedy for women is that they will love and be sexually attracted to just one man, but who that one man is can change; so if a better man comes along than their existing partner, they will fall out of love with the first and fall into love with the latter. The red pill of NTR is that these two primal forces are strong enough to destroy good things in life. Friendships. Love. Family. Society. NTR isn't a fetish. It's a horror genre. And you're mesmerized by it.
>>5369235NTR is Talmudic as all hell.
>>5362577The level of either misunderstanding or voluntary feigning of ignorance is absurd in this post.As the other anon said, if people just want something different, they usually become swingers and such. Cuckold relationships are not healthy in most cases. The husband is far from confident or whatever you paint it to be, he has some kind of insecurity that leads him to feel inadequate. In your mind, the true loving response to this is just to enforce his inferiority complex and insecurities by fucking other men, instead of trying to work it out with him and giving him confidence, helping him out etc. You're either dumb or malicious for believing this.For the record, I enjoy NTR hentai, I just think it's retarded to confuse fantasy fetishes with reality.
>>5368110No fucking one wants the world to see videos of themselves being raped. Yes, it doesn't make much sense that the culprit would incriminate himself, but the point is that whether he does that does not matter if the world becomes full of pictures and videos of you being raped. No matter what you read on 4chan, no person would want this for themselves.
>>5368255I do think this is certainly one of the reasons for SOME people, but in general, chikans prey on meek, passive girls. Typically it's the kind of girl that freezes in a fight or flight situation. Instead of getting a girl that will fight (kick you in the balls), or flight (scream and run), these passive girls just freeze, pretend it's not happening and hope you hurry up and go away. Playing dead is a very good strategy in the animal kingdom so it's not like there's no logic to it.
>>5368355It would be if we were talking about cheating, but NTR is about the suffering of the other person in the relationship, so unless they were a willing participant, they wouldn't be your partner anymore.
Does anyone have in actual experience with this? I haven't kept up with the whole thread but it all seems hypothetical or base off of NTR hentai. Can we hear from some actual cucks? Not trying to judge just am generally curious. Ive inserted myself in both sides of NTR and found both highly arousing at certain times.Honestly its the perfect powerplay fantasy. You are either being completely dominated or completely dominated someone on a emotional/mental level. Both are hot desu. Would never consider myself a cuck but I see both sides of the argument.
>>5372807I understand that it's embarrassing, but if you don't want everyone to see your rape, is it really correct to start regularly fucking your rapist? Isn't the rape worse than the humiliation you get when people see your rape vid on the internet? Don't you relive the rape by letting the person continue to blackmail you?
>>5373301You don't get it anon.Woman's brain would rather develop feelings for the guy to avoid rape altogether
>>5368353THANK YOUSOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT
NTR is just porn for people with intense self loathing, as they subconsciously see themselves as the cucked but attempt to lie to themselves that they are actually the cucker.NTR lovers have low self-worth and warp their disgust at themselves for not being able to sustain a healthy relationship into the abuse of women. Why do you think NTR is the most popular fetish in Japan, a country that is sexually closer to pandas than primates?Don't get mad anons, it's the truth. One day you'll stop lying to yourself
>>5360066I self-insert as the ugly guy because I am an ugly guy. I wouldn't do this type of shit in real life though.
>>5376318re ga Nyotaika Shita kedo Dou ni mo Jimi na KenIt's a gender bender
>>5362746I just noticed the poster in the background is to another work by the same artist (also ntr).
>>5360066I like it because it's taboo. It's not gross like scat and the like, but isn't acceptable which in a way makes it exciting.
>>5376539do you have any sources to support any of these assertions? otherwise it sounds like you're just a cuck and assume everyone else is as beta as you.
>>5376539anyone who has ever jerked off to porn is a cuck. you are watching another man fuck a woman.
i'm not a fan of ntrbut they usually always have the hottest girls
>>5361367>look at this faggot trying to tell everyone how they should get off to a cuckold fetish on a mongolian throat singing forum fuck off with your bullshit mate, everyone can enjoy a fetish however they like
>>5376561source yourself and all the faggots at the ntr general is a good one
>muh redpill incel rhetoric that coincidentally reinforces my ideology It's really not that hard to believe people just get off to cheating as well as being cheated on and there's nothing wrong with that. Who cares why people like NTR? You should instead ask yourself why you have such a negative reaction to it and presume to know the psyche of those who do like it.
>>5376569No you stupid idiot. We don't have any attachment to the woman getting fucked. By this logic, any single person that reads a romance novel or watches a movie is getting cucked.
>>5376560Stealing another's lover is certainly not "taboo." You took the time to mention scat yet you still don't understand just how extreme a fetish must be before it's taboo? The worst that will happen is you get called a cuck for liking NTR, but you probably won't have any friends for liking scat.
>>5376712Ah another illiterate appears. You have to be 18 to post here but it seems many of you haven't even been to high school to take literature classes. Nothing I said in anyway demands that people enjoy a fetish in a particular way, but if you can read you would have known that and not replied.
>>5376539"If you like NTR, you're a cuck."Sick argument you vanillafag. See this is why most you moralfags don't understand NTR, you compare it to real life instead of seeing it as fictional fap material, which makes sense, cause you always self-insert into your trash vanilla harems to see yourself as some pussy magnet.Most who fap to NTR like it because the NTR adds to the moral degeneration of the girl. There's actually quite a low amount of actual cucks who self-insert.
>>5376818>t. cocklet brainlet
>>5376829Didn't expect a good reply anyway.
>>5359920Stop watching porn so much and start masturbating to fucking girls you know in a dominant position. Start working out to get some test pumping and do something to better yourself to elevate yourself from a masochist position. Or you can just switch porn types and keep beating it and make it harder to get out of it and just add another fetish to it like everyone else.
what is vanilla anyway? is it 1 man 1 woman missionary unprotected sex to procreate? is anything besides what the bible commands considered immoral to vanillacucks? you're a special kind of stupid to complain about degeneracy on an anonymous chinese cartoon porn message board.
>I-I self insert a-as the chad guys>I love the moral degeneracy of it>It's just a fetishNTRfriends, please.
For me it's the fact that the girl cannot resist cheating/falling for the bad guy. This immeasurable pleasure she is feeling mixed with guilt is what does it for me. Of course I feel bad for the cuck but then again it's usually some pathetic faggot so who cares
Is there any traction on the idea that a lot of NTR artists are actually Koreans with JP pen names trying to force some big social experiment? Like this is some concerted Korean feminist occult effort.
Alright, fuck it, fapping to an NTR Doujinshi of my waifu.Fuck this shit.>>5378685What would that achieve?I doubt much. It won't stop guys from fucking girls.
>>5360206imagine being a non-conformist and ultimately becoming a conformist
>>5365960>Self inserting as an immoral degenarate.
>>5359920Filter your water.
>>5366316bugfuckers will always be better than cuck faggots
idk i do think about this a lot because i jerk off to it a lot, but i like ntr a lot and i almost always self insert as the cuck unfortuantely. idk why but its very hot and it always turns me on for some reason. i don't think i could love someone fully enough to let them fuck other people though
>>5360512The artist is charm point
>>5360068This guy gets it.
>>5378169lol it's true for some people though, I swear
If you think it's wrong to enjoy adultery in hentai does that mean you also think it's wrong to enjoy rape in hentai? If so, why are you on this board of all places?
>>5385736>idk why but its very hot and it always turns me on for some reason.the reason is you're a cuck
>>5387394At least he's brave enough to admit it, unlike all of the other ntr lovers
Anti-NTR types are massive babies, always crying at what stuff other people fap to. Notice how NTR is apparently the absolute worst and bottom of the barrel of fetishes yet child rape, sexual slavery, grooming, anal, gays and traps, scat, feet, ryona and guro for some reason get a free pass. We're not even touching on the more bizarre and extreme things like vore, furry, genderswap and so on. It says a lot that they fixate so strongly on a genre which can be very tame, that they get more offended about a woman being a slut than a woman being gangraped by monsters who violently take over the world, for example. Their priorities and morals are out of balance.I love NTR for many reasons, main one is probably the woman throwing herself into lustful abandon, consequences be damned. Its hot to see the corruption of a woman. NTR could do with far less "I got a photo of you and your boyfriend holding hands, better become my woman now or I'll ruin you lives GWAAHAHAHA" though.Lastly, there is a lack of translated NTR VNs.
its a fetish for the lowest of the low who self insert as the cuck and the higest narcissists who self insert as the bullcuck side like being humiliated/degraded and the betrayal aspect bull aide likes being worshiped/humiliating others and the ruining relationships of othersgotta be careful though if anything overlaps its an instant bonerkiller
>>5359920I play NTR eroge because I want sex scenes that revolves around a plot and I enjoy the drama>inb4 any other eroge has sex scenesthe thing is that, those eroge aren't centered around those sex scenes, if you were to remove those scenes, the game's story might still be the same you can't remove the sex scenes in NTR eroge because the entire plot revolves around sex
I like mom-NTR the most, i thinck is the purest and most powerful ntr subgenre.
>>5360240>You don't self insert in NTR, you fap to the misery of the characters.This comment just single-handedly vindicated NTR-fags for me. I always thought you were cucked losers, but this I can get behind. Greetings from the BDSM crew.
>>5389005Also I may add, it's still nothing for me. The idea of the existence of such weak men as the cucked losers in NTR disgusts me so much that I lose my boner.
I get the feeling NTR would be less disliked if it wasn’t always the same ending over and over. Where are the NTR doujins where the cuck goes full postal when he finds out and kills his slutty ex and the chad that she leaves him for?
>>5387104But this is like looking up scat because you like big asses. Moral degen can go with NTR, but NTR isn't necessarily moral degen. Just look up the moral degen tag and call it a day.
>>5387786>Says he likes NTR>Describes corruption and moral degeneration>>5388443>Enjoys the drama of NTRThank you, this is the point.>>5359920OP if you're still in this thread, see >>5360240 and >>5360400 because these digits are the only ones working with the actual definition. How can you expect to be redpilled when everyone is only talking about what THEY like in NTR not about what NTR actually is.Definition from sad panda>Another person's spouse / partner being unfaithful and the one being cuckolded being aware of the situation. Also acceptable for when the story is clearly meant to invoke jealousy or sympathy on behalf of the person being cuckolded. Should not be confused with cheating.NTR has always been about the suffering forced on to the cuck when his/her lover is stolen. Sure you can enjoy the corruption or moral degeneration, but that's not what it's about. NTR is about suffering.
>>5359920It sucks now fuck off.
>>5372736>pigHow did that get it's own tag?
>>5360240It's pretty stupid to think you know how everyone enjoy a certain fetish.For me, NTR means self-insert / watch the female succumb to her instincts by becoming submissive to the superior male.Yeah sure, it sounds stupid in reality but fuck it, it's just power fantasy that ends once I bust a nut.
>>5360097giga cuck cope
>>5389853Because Orcs are the sworn enemies of Elves.
>>5359920NTR is a meme flirting with the inherent paradoxes of modern society without having to think about it. Equivalent to the 2 minutes hate of Orwellian fame. It is also fundamentally connected with the rise of sissy-kink and femdom.The west still possesses a puritanical strain that denies female pleasure in sex while encouraging women to hide enjoyment for fear of becoming known as a "slut" and thus losing all social capital with other women. The man does not enter the equation until later when the more mature ethical calculus of love is applied independently of social pressure. But here it is a "wifely duty" which is done "for him" rather than for herself as well. That both analyses return an answer of "don't do it" for "good" girls does not remove the differences between the societal "sticks." In short, female pleasure must have a market value of $0.00 for all actors, always and everywhere, for society to function and the math to work. Even the dullest man eventually will sense this lie inherent in all his intimacies with "good" girls and desire "bad" ones who reject the lies of society even if they have not developed their own consistent theory of morality.For men, the fear is that if market forces were to be confronted directly in the home (family values), their horror would become instantly apparent and intolerable. "Love should not be a thing that can be bought" men tell themselves, while simultaneously trying to reconcile this with the fallible nature of their own ethical standards. The most cowardly answer is to deny love's existence utterly and reduce all relationships to selfish transactional ones as social capitalism demands. Women resist this conclusion both selfishly and selflessly; in the case of the former, it means "all women are sluts" and is intolerable, in the case of the later, it means they can never know, give or share, love and so they resist in the name of humanity.
>>5390783>continuedNTR and IR are popular even and especially among the right wing for the same reasons they abhor it. It allows them to place themselves in the intellectual position of women in this scenario. Filled with pleasure, not telling anyone about it, hating oneself for the lies necessary to achieve enjoyment, owning their own imperfection. NTR, IR, Femdom, and sissy-kink will continue to be popular until we face the societal contradition that says love for sale is better than Humanity first. When we finally forgive each other for our imperfections and increase our tolerance for same, we will finally be free from the infectious meme. Ironically, this forgiveness and mercy are Christian values.
>>5390783I disagree. There's a difference between a woman enjoying sex with her husband and a woman abandoning her husband and children to have sex with a stranger. If it is from a puritanical strain, it would be that she is guilty of the sin of lust which anyone can commit, not that she has to conform to societal expectations of a "good wife." You don't even need to be religious to understand that enjoying something to the point of abandoning your responsibilities (maladaptive) is immoral.>>5390786What is IR? >not telling anyone about itYou've just described cheating, not netorare. At best this could be netorase. I feel like rapeplay is probably something that would fit your line of reasoning more.
>>5388755I like you.
>>5360240Basicly, any form of ntr is emotional gore. You are jerking it to the emotional equivalent of chinks stabbing eachother on demand
>>5361627Where exactly does the aspect of niggers (different/hostile race from a biological pov) fit in or what are the implications science anon?
>>5366199I don't really get 2. Is it the same mindset as being complimented? But even then how can you value a club thot's opinion that much
>>5389761Eh, it's closer to looking up Mom/Son incest because you like MILFs. There's so much well drawn porn of Mom/Son incest with awesome MILFs that if you want that kind of fap that's the best place to look.
>>5392977quivering lil mad reject lol
>>5359920Well for me at least I like rough/heavy sex and NTR has that in spades (plus the women are usually have larger breasts than most Vanilla). Vanilla is just boring. The girls are delicate and willing partners with no real expression other than loving the MC. At least in NTR the females made more emotion even though mindbreaking over cock is pretty silly. The other thing is the self insert. Everyone views it differently but I self insert as the male stealing the MC female. Im not really into the being the MC losing the girl, or the despair or even the submissive cuck shit. At least for me it's a lot more realistic since I ended up with my wife by cucking her old boyfriend back in college. Shes the soft and delicate type and her old bf was the generic soft boy. I'm no ultra chad by any means but working hard in college, being diligent and successful having a goal in life I wanted her as my woman and I did just that. Made my advances, told her that her bf was going nowhere, I was better next thing you know were making out and i'm dicking the girl I desired while shes still with her bf. continues a few more times and eventually she breaks up he's devastated and stops showing up with her friends but we've been happy together ever since. I guess NTR has a closer connection for me because of that reason.
To the NTRfags that say "you're supposed to self insert as the bull"Why isn't it always netori then? Why is it always from the cucks perspective with the most attention on how he's not getting any and how his wife/gf/mother/etc. is fucking literally anyone but him. It's clearly a fetish where the artists get off on the suffering of the guy. Trying to spin it as anything else is kinda stupid
>>5359920as long as the arts good i don't care
>>5360112Corruption was one of the above options.
>>5393597>virgin lolabsolute state of your insults
>>5360068>Don't self-insert into any of the characterswait, that's how people usually watch porn?
>>5360066For me, I don't project myself into the ugly guy or into the cuck or women. It's more of the moral degeneracy of the supposedly pure women succumbing to the pleasure at the heat of the moment. It's the inability of the female heroine to exhibit any thought or consequences and the transformation of the heroine turning or finding out she's a nympho. The art is also usually over the top which I prefer over vanilla
>>5396575This right here. I don't care about cuck shit itself nor do I self insert into hentai. I just use NTR as an extra source of seeing girls turn into nymphos. I ran out of regular gangbang slut hentai with good art, so now I dip into NTR sometimes too.
As someone who doesn't really care if a doujin is NTR or vanilla (I fap to both at the same time), is always funny to see these 2 sides fighting like uncultured apes.But If I'm honest, I see more NTRfags fighting between themselves over the correct definition of the genre, than anything else, so I usually find this side to funnier, vanillafags usually mind their business until they lose their shit over some random work.
>>5397469The reason is because NTR as in abbreviation for netorare usually, but it could also be an abbreviation for netorase and netori, all of which are different things. Couple that with >>5396575 and >>5397418 who are describing things that aren't netorare but are calling it that and you have a perfect storm of confusion.
>>5397473I know what NTR actually is, I'm just saying that the reason I enjoy it sometimes isn't for the NTR itself but rather what side elements come from the girl NTR'ing the guy.
>>5397513I'm not saying you don't just that many people are confused with what is and isn't NTR because most people like you are talking about the side elements that come with NTR. For example https://exhentai.org/g/1282826/17fec47110/ is tagged as NTR when it's clearly just cheating because her husband has no clue what she really does when she goes jogging. Furthermore, someone will post this in the NTR thread saying "I love NTR like this because I love how much of a slut she girl is." Then someone else responds, "That's cool, but what you linked isn't NTR" and this just further confuses the people trying to figure out what it is.
>>5372736>man of shad
>>5372736>MILF>Yuri>consensual BDSM>evilnigga please
It's like a porn within a porn.Plus I love it when women cum and there's usually a woman getting her brains fucked out.
NTR is about the truth.Its about a "weak" man who can't sexually/emotionally/physically satisfy a girl, and her desperate attempts at staying faithful to him until she can't take it anymore and caves in eventually cheating on him sooner or later.It's the truth because you see it happen in real life all the time. Tons of girls date betas and end up sleeping with chads still. I would say roughly 80% of the women I've met have cheated on their partner or partners in the past and that's me being fair. Not everyone is aware of this, but it certainly is a thing and it plays towards our insecurities thats why NTR is a genre and that's why people find it arousing and disgusting. consider yourselves redpilled on NTR thank you for attending my Ted Talk
>>5398687have sex incel
>>5398687>>5398692i've had sex with 4 different girls
>>5398732Sure you did, fag.have sex
>>5360185this.It's like how in SAO the main character is a preachy, retarded, blank slate dumbass type that I can't relate with. I just want to ruin his day, best way to do that is to fuck his bitch right in front of him.
>>5372736Why is shadman a little rabit
>>5398692>>5398743Bend over then.
>>5359920It's shit, on par with footfags and scat fetishists.However, if you must be so degenerate to enjoy it the only thing that matters is if you insert as the bull or the cuck.If you insert as the cuck then you are a cuck and your opinion and fetish is utter garbage and you should go die like the beta faggot you areIf you insert as the bull then you are a-ok.
>>5360066I like the "loosing to the dick" factor
>>5402216yeah loosing to the dick is hot
>>5359920For me i enjoy being a spectator watching characters suffer, degraded and succumbing to pleasure. It's usually better for the woman to be the one who's cheating since it hurts the MC the most, but if she gets raped and she ends up enjoying it then theres an aspect of violation and impotence of the MC and that of the love interest. An example of this type ntr can be seen in "Traingle blue" and "Tachibana-san's circumstance with a man", the reason for this particular fetish would be an equal dissatisfaction of the reader where often the MC is incompetent and hesitant that is often in line with japanese formality, this builds resentment for which the pleasure is derived from. When and if i'm self - inserting it's almost always either the alpha chad or the ugly bastard because it appeals to western ideas of intercourse, whereas the porn industry has an overabundant source of interracial porn for cuckold and in general rough sex material, Japan doe's not (ironically enough) view interracial cuckold pornography as "alpha". And in other words, i can't self insert myself as a nigger in any context
>>5367438Cheating is NTR. The Western definition of cheating isn't the same thing as the rest of the world. A woman being drugged and corrupted can be seen as cheating.
NTR is everything an ideal relationship isn't. It centers around cheating and cruelty and it challenges the idea that love and sex are necessarily linked. You can enjoy sex even if you hate the partner, and you can theoretically still love your partner even if they're a beta cuck. Centrally, the idea that raw physical sensation can overwhelm loyalty, sanctity, dignity, etc is appealing because it's at odds with the identity of love/romance/vanilla sex. If you insert as the cuck you're an insecure faggot who can't be convinced that your partner actually loves you, because you think they're so much better than you, or because you're obsessed with an ideal version of them. If you insert as the bull, you're basically too autistic to comprehend a real relationship so it's fulfilling the fantasy that if you're good enough at sex nothing else matters. If you self insert as the girl, idk I guess there's a sort of power in choosing the bigger dick.
>>5398912The rabbit is running away from shadman
>>5404765No, NTRi s cheating, but cheating isn't NTR. NTR can include cheating in it, but cheating isn't always NTR. NTR requires that the cuck is aware of the cheating to be considered truly NTR, otherwise it's just cheating.
>>5359920In the world of modern hentai, women have noticeably much less control over their sexual desires than real life women do, all a guy literally has to do is simply touch them somewhere or expose their penis to them and these girls immediately lose most of their resistance and start submitting to carnal pleasure. NTR for the most part works by having girls be unaware of just how super easy and submissive they actually are until something different happens and it's pretty rare to actually have the NTR guy put in much effort to work his way into getting between their legs.
The people who like NTR like feeling pleasure while feeling bad. Anything else is a lie or a lack of self awareness.
>>5406013feeling bad about what? not everyone believes in sexually monogamous relationships. many people consent to polygamy and prefer it. it's completely normal in certain parts of the world
>>5406034NTR is not about the dude getting cucked giving consent. Further proof you guys lack the self-awareness to describe why you like your fetishes.
>>5406013tl;dr this post right here/thread
>>5359920All these connasurs posting paragraph long essays on ntr.Where are the fucking links to kino ntr?
>>5406034Literally the definition of NTR is non-consensual to the point of mind breaking apart.