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Historical Photo thread
>The virgin Hitler vs The Chad Hindenburg
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>>3842311
>>3842318
yamaguchi, who else retard, if you were still confused and someone posted a picture of JWB assassinating Lincoln would you ask the poster if Lincoln was their hero?
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>>3841967

virgin Churchill vs Chad Stalin
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>>3842412
...Maybe Hindenburg could have returned and stopped Hitler after his death?
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I'm so glad the Finns took so many HQ pictures of the war
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What Would Julius Do?

Hard mode: No fortifications.
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Julius would've gone through Armenia and got those sweet and free Armenian cav to counter Parthian cav.
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>>3842045
For the sake of argument, let's pretend Julius and Crassus swap places at precisely the moment of contact pictured in the OP.
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7 legions estimated 40,000–50,000 total
Uncounted number of milites (presumed 34,000 or more)
8,000 auxiliaries
4,000 cavalry
4,000 light infantry
Vs
10,000 cavalry
1,000 cataphracts
9,000 horse archers

Yeah no seriously this doesn't take a Julias.
Not even a real general worth naming like Taharqa The only real threat is the horse archers and that's if they aren't being btfo by sheilds which they would be.
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>>3842042
He would spread them out in a line with extra ranks on the wings and keep his cavalry rested while marching towards the Parthian baggage train. After several hours the Parthian cavalry would start to become exhausted and overheat, allowing his own cavalry to charge and catch up with the Parthians who threaten the flanks or get behind the line.

With 43000 Romans the line could be 26 ranks deep and still be a mile long, the light horse archers would not be able to charge such a concentration of some of the finest heavy infantry in the world at the time, even the cataphracts would have difficulty and they would have to maneuver some distance around this line to attack the flanks, all while the legionaries march steadily onwards.
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>>3842241
this is a good plan, create a sort of wide "membrane" from infantry,
try to somehow envelop them, since they are more mobile, use your own cavalry
to halt their flanking and retreat for long enough to encircle them with infantry
>>3842127
this is an even better plan

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Were they the Crips and Bloods of medieval Yurp?
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>>3842482
They were literally The empire and Rebels.

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ITT: We post old pictures of our hometowns and try to guess them

Hard Mode: no google search
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>>3841278

Pristina, Kosovo?
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>>3840178
homg kong?
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>>3842392
Brasilia?

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Why did Italy shamelessly betray the Central Powers at the beginning of WWI, bros? They could have saved us from the worst timeline.
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>>3842198
>Minister of Foreign affairs, responsible for the alliance with an autocratic Russia against Germany (which is a great example for realpolitik btw) and the end of splendid isolation
>one MP
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>>3842229
>I'm fucking retarded
So that's cleared up then
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>>3842195
>more moral relativism
>come from the deluded wehraboo

Are we supposed to be surprised?
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>>3841704
It's a subhuman g*rmuttoid

They tend to make up lies when they're cornered
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>>3841613
>Venetians didn't consider themselves Italians at all.
Is that why the Republic of St. Mark voted for subsumption under the Kingdom of Sardinia in 1848?
Venetians always have preferred and always will prefer independence, but they are every bit as italian as scots are british. Certainly they preferred being part of Italy than part of Austria, that's for fucking sure.

What is it with Germans trying to destroy Europe since ancient times?
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>>3842168
So, this is just another butthurt Pole thread then.
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>>3842233
Prove me wrong >>3841493
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>>3842271
>take me serious, please!
Thanks, but no thanks.
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>>3842233
>>3842279
>le reddit toilet plumber memes
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>Blatant racism and trolling will not be tolerated, and a high level of discourse is expected.

mods!

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What did people drank before the introduction of modern beverages/drinks? I get that they drank water, juices, wine, etc but what was the most average thing?

Did most europeans really drink wine most of the times they had lunch or dinner? How about the rest of the world? I can't imagine people drinking always alcoholic beverages
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>>3839411
Beer
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>>3839470
Pulling this out of my ass but, considering making juice out of a fruit normally involves throwing away the pulp and such, most people probably chose to just not waste food
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Monks in an English abbey in the 12th century were rationed a gallon of beer a day. While it was pretty weak, I can imagine them being at least somewhat intoxicated regularly.
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>>3839470
Fruits were available fresh for only a brief time, and it takes a lot of fruits to make a little juice.
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>>3842298
eh, it was small beer, just buzzed.

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Post your favorite paintings
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>Based Charlie's brother had to die instead of giving us more /aesthetic/ paintings
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>>3835801
Listening to this while looking at this painting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nVmFlSV1ok
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>>3842035
Listening to this while looking at all the paintings
thinking about how much of a good run it was dispite all the pain and suffering we endured among ages of hunger and fear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stWae6r7Blw
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>>3842111
based bost

>destroys your LARPing session

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Historically speaking, when did the "Angry White Male" stereotype start, and why? Was it a product of the disillusionment of the 1970s or did it have an earlier origin?
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>>3840700
Bacon's Rebellion in the 17th century was a revolt by angry white men too.
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>>3840682
WE
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>>3840682
More? For scientific purposes.
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>>3840615
>New England middle class liberals

The "Angry White Male" stereotype is primarily directed at working class rural men whereas New England middle class liberals have to deal with "Soyboy" stereotype. President Jackson was immensely popular among common American people and in many ways was the prototypical "Angry White Male" (why do you think replacing him with Harriet Tubman was such a high priority for lefties?) so claiming his detractors were the origin for the stereotype is misguided.
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>>3840682
>tfw no turbo español gf

my ancestors :)
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>>3840159
>celtic pride
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Here are my ancestors killing a snufalufagus. My ancestor is the alpha as fuck guy in the foreground about to throw the kill shot into snuffy's throat. His name was Ta'ik'itul and he had three wives at the same time and fucked them all twice a day. This is alot of outgoing energy you will note. Well her had 26 sons to help him hunt and feed his new tribe he created after he got pissed off at the old tribe he was in and killed the chief men and took all the young women as slaves. It was probably autism.
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>>3840824
Curb your LARP mischling
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my ancestors :)

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Io, Saturnalia, fellow Patricians, now let me tell you the story of the Gladius brothers.

>leading my Legion through some shitty foggy area of Gaul because Emperor Marcus Aurelius wants me to find some marauding sea raiding faggot adventurers
>foggy as shit, literally cant see anything, even in the overworld map
>fog clears up finally
>surrounded by 3 armies of Gauls who are pissed as shit because I raided some Gallic town near the Rhine for shits and giggles
>ohfuck.jpg
>try to back the fuck out
>immediately they close in on my Legion (I should clear up that it can't really be called a legion because Mount and Blade would shit itself if I had a party of 5,000)
>ohfuckherewego.jpg
>"You have 305 troops fit for combat against the enemy's 500"
>teutobergalloveragain.mp4
>we take the field

Pic related, the Gladius brothers, Marius on the left and Jeff Seidus on the right
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>>3842077
Bellum Imperii for Mount and Blade: Warband
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why are his arms so wet and shinny

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aren't the armors here>>3842080

from Rome at War?
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>Sevastapol Hard
>Assault Team goes in
>Start taking out some MG and snipers, trying to focus on the right side without getting pounded by an 88mm
>Struggle a bit for objetives
>Shit starts going down
>Only a backup team of marines is left alive after the carnage
>Mission Complete
>We lost a lot of good commandos, but they're as valuable as potato, comrade.
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>>3842310
nah, the mods use a lot of overlapping resources i think
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>>3842333

dunno man, last time i tried Bellum Imperii it had nothing pre-Principate and it was also stopping development because the dev lost his HDD and will to continue

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Why were white women always considered the most beautiful?
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>>3842131
So were nigger or asian women, yet none of them reached the prices of white women
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Middle-eastern women are meh, Africans are ugly and easy to capture so they're cheap as shit like dirt, whites are obviously more attractive and it takes a bit more effort to capture one.
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>>3842108
In İslam, the Muslim warrior has the right to take slaves, and sell them. As the Turks managed to conquer Anatolia and south and parts of east Europe, they allowed the soldiers to take slaves as a art of payment. Clever Middle Eastern people used this method to gain money by selling slaves in mass, and so many 'white' women were selled as slaves to Anatolia, Turks, the Middle East and north and Subsaharan Africa.
They were seen as exotic, and were good usable slaves.
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>>3842134

But İ would not say no to a Slavic slave girl too
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>>3842108
you cant paint a collective brush across something like beauty, anon

cute girls are cute, and they come in all colours

Sometimes i ponder
Traditionalists are ignorant (and possibly sheltered) faggots.

Starting with their praise of the mid to late-mid 20th century (that's 50s,60s and 70s) for allegedly being so 'christian', being full of 'family values' and being so 'peaceful' and whatnot, whereas it's in fact, the opposite
that shitty era had WW2 ruins and leftovers (both infrastructure and ruined families thanks to human casualties and PTSD) ,the cold war ,organized crime,Korean and Vietnam war (by consequence of all that loss of life, even more broken families and PTSD like WW2) ,segregation in US and petty race tensions that went too far etc,political clashing and terrorism especially in europe, rise of communism, start of the rise of serial killers in US, increase in prostitution, and boomers, Fuck boomers.
In conclusion, that era was a particularly shit one.

Second, tradtards do not realize that their borderline fascist ideals cannot keep up with the rapid increase of technology, Needless to say (this is a very important point) that Traditions, in today's world, are absolutely worthless, or may have always been, either way, they're unnecessary.

Another point to make is that most of them of think achieving their morals through the state would work, which is autistic, because no matter how hard you try to enforce morals, it cannot be done by the state, or coercion, it is done by religion.

debate me, tradtards, you will lose.
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>>3841843
This. Thinking the 1950s were traditional is something only an American could come up with.
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>>3841310
>Traditionalists
>Starting with their praise of the mid to late-mid 20th century
sage
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>>3841310
Not historical nor humanities, save that politics is a humanity. But, alas, >>>/pol/
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>>3841310

>50s, 60s, 70s

were periods of rapid, rampant urbanisation, industrialisation and modernisation, things like spread of television to almost 100% coverage in just a decade, exponential growth of comodity manufacture industries, it was the very hayday of all things modernist and the pinnacle of the modernist project on as global a scale as possible, the high point of the space race, technological development of practicaly the entire analogue base that bore the digital revolution, rapid changes in culture and everyday life, spread of psychedelics, complete atomisation of the family unit, finaly begining of deregulation and outsourcing plus end of the gold standard, all things that allowed for the rampant rise of neoliberalism in the late 70is and 80is

there was nothnig, nothing traditionalist about that period, nothing, that whole period was about plug and play prefabricated industrial, hypertechnical individualist consumerism, thats what it was all about, you baiting troll, nothing traditional or traditionalist about any of it, how can you even posibly... are you 12 years old?
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>>3841310
>Starting with their praise of the mid to late-mid 20th century (that's 50s,60s and 70s) for allegedly being so 'christian', being full of 'family values' and being so 'peaceful' and whatnot, whereas it's in fact, the opposite
>that shitty era had WW2 ruins and leftovers (both infrastructure and ruined families thanks to human casualties and PTSD) ,the cold war ,organized crime,Korean and Vietnam war (by consequence of all that loss of life, even more broken families and PTSD like WW2) ,segregation in US and petty race tensions that went too far etc,political clashing and terrorism especially in europe, rise of communism, start of the rise of serial killers in US, increase in prostitution, and boomers, Fuck boomers.
>In conclusion, that era was a particularly shit one.
You dumb little american-centric piece of shit.

There are literally no such traditionalists, that you describe.

Fuck off mutt.

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ITT: Your historical Hero
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>>3842138
The Lubomirski family did nothing wrong, they were prominent for centuries, acted in the national interest, were top-notch administrators and military leaders, funded an enormous number of great cultural works, after the partitions they burned through their fortunes funding Polish cultural works and independence movements (and had a large proportion of their estates confiscated as punishment for doing the latter).

Zdzisław Lubomirski was also the one (in his capacity as Prince Regent) who declared the independence of Poland in 1918.

10/10 family
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>>3832286
Read his biography by Edmund Morris. Fantastic trilogy.
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