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Were the SS an actual good fighting force or just glorified Zealots?
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>>4910990
>White man
>Good at actually fighting
White devil's can only pay others to fight for them.
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infantry didnt make a difference
and the motorized and tank divisions were comically overequipped to the point of self-sabotage

>The Gross-Deutschland Division had enough equipment for two divisions, much like a Waffen-SS division. This did not make it more combat effective, but rather more cumbersome and more difficult to command. The idea was to establish both an army and a Waffen-SS corps with two to three such divisions each as a reserve for the senior command level. I was slated to command the army corps and was first to gain some experience with the Gross-Deutschland Division. I considered the overstuffing of the division with equipment to be a mistake. The excess was easily destroyed by enemy fire without increasing the division’s effectiveness, and that excess equipment was then not available elsewhere. I reported my assessment back to higher headquarters in the clearest terms, which created considerable trouble, especially with Guderian. Fortunately, the idea of a super corps remained wishful thinking; but the over-equipping of the division never stopped.

t. hermann balck
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>>4910990
Yes
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>>4910990
Early SS: shit light infantry, high morale, high losses
Mid SS: infantry, high morale, high losses
Late SS: non-german conscripts
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>>4910990
They were okay, they got the best equipment and decent training but in terms of effectiveness they were not really any better than the Wehrmacht. Also, the SS was not a military organization but a police force, you are talking about the Waffen-SS, the military wing of the SS.
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>>4911042
>they got the best equipment
Not before 1941 they didn't.
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>>4911053
Waffen-SS barely existed before 1941 tho. They were just a glorified bodyguard.
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>>4910990
cocaine and crystal meth provided by the state. efficient for killing rats. but at a fair fight, the fiends lose
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>>4910990
there were maybe 3 or 4 SS divisions that could be called elite, although they could not compete with divisions like Großdeutschland.
1/3 of SS divisions were comparable to regular Wehrmacht divisions. Rest had Volksturm-tier equipment and its entire manpower composed of subhumans like Jews, Gypsies, Banat Germans etc.
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>>4911001
Germans aren't white
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>>4910990
>good fighting force
>casualties so bad that the Wehrmacht doubted their fighting capabilities
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>>4911017

this
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>>4912659

That's such a cute hat
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>>4913378

this

The only Waffen-SS officers who were worth a damn generally had been Reichswehr or Wehrmacht had some point earlier.
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>>4911001
Not sure that's accurate considering the term "white devil" was first used to describe Robert Rogers who killed a shit load of indians during the French and Indian war.
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Nah, only the panezer unit was effective, but that goes for every panzer unit really
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>>4910990
depends on the divison, some were very good others were garbage
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>>4910990
I'd say the best infantry of ww2 as for fighting tactics and bravery was the french résistance en vercors. The SS were a solid unit but not better than any US marine (still better than your average Vlad tho)
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>>4918342
>I'd say the best infantry of ww2 as for fighting tactics and bravery was the french résistance en vercors
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>>4918342
ahahahhahha
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>>4918383
>>4918432
funny since you probably don't even know what the resistence en vercors was
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>>4910990

Were there any individual SS units or commanders who stood out for their chivalry, even when dealing with "subhuman" Slavs and Jews?
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>>4911017
and what exactly was this over-stuffing of equipment for them?
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>>4910990
On a whole they were partisans loyal to the Nazis rather than being properly trained military soldiers. So shitty
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>>4918342
>french résistance en vercors
They fucking lost tho. Pretty badly too, to Eastern European """"volunteers"""" no less.
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>>4920180
Look up das reich in july to august 1941. They held their shit good at the salient>>4920207
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>>4918701
the guys on the mountain.

lmao@ your life for trying to show off like they are some obscure piece of knowledge
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>>4910990
They fought Satanism and Satan himself so they were a good fighting force. They were an Elite Force that fought the forces of evil they fought the satanic bankers and the satanic communists. They invaded Poland because they were fighting Satan.
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>>4920361
>They fought Satanism and Satan himself
>by directly participating in the extermination of millions of Christian Poles
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>>4920361
wrong! they were pagans and fought against the jew, including the jew of religions, Christianity.
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>>4920180

this
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>>4920735
>implying Poles aren't created by the devil
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>>4911001
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They were shit at the beggining of the war. They got destroyed during the invasion of Poland
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>>4922159
>I'm not a nazi by any means
He's a nazi.
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>>4922159
>I mean for fucks sake, the last time white people got angry at a non-white race-like, really genuinely angry-they split the atom, opening an entire new era of science
I thought Jews weren't white though?
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>>4920741
They weren’t pagans though. Himmler tried LARPing as one until Hitler told him to “cut out the cult nonsense.” Although chaplains were forbidden, German Waffen-SS men had to list themselves as “Protestant, Catholic, or God Believing.” It was about a 50-25-25% split
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>>4918342
Hahahahahaha why are frogs so pathetic?
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>>4922204
>I thought Jews weren't white though?
Not the guy that posted the pic, but it is really disingenuous to attribute the development of the atomic bomb to a few Jewish members of the Manhattan Project.
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The waffen ss were shit in the early phases of the war
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I would say Nordland at least was very effective in Estonia
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>>4918260
This
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>>4910990
The ones in the West mostly were, which is where the reputation comes from. The ones in the East, who were actually the vast majority of the organization, were below average quality compared to the Wehrmacht and included a lot of borderline-useless 'internal security' units that just fought partisans or operated concentration camps.
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>>4922456
>ywn ride in a half-track

feelsbadman
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>>4910990
Glorified zealots. The Wehrmacht didn’t respect them because they kept getting btfo in battles. They were only useful for killing innocent civilians, which they kept doing up until the very end, even German civilians
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Pioneered spec ops via Skorzeny
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>>4913378
the Wehrmacht didnt like the SS because they knew that if germany won they would end up like the brown shirts or they would have to assimilate in the SS
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>>4910990
>Losing side
>Good at anything
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>>4922027

Hello Ukraine
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>>4924830
>Hitler creates his own personal Army
>they get their own equipment earlier than the wehrmacht
>their planning doesn't follow long strategic planning but rather by "take A B C then we're done"
>focuses on ideology more than what the Army goes through
>high casualty rate
I'd doubt the SS too if I was a WW2 German General and see if I can put them in minimal roles
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>>4924834
>all sides eventually loose
>anybody good at anything
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>>4910990
Some, especially those engagen in combat since the wars beginning, were alright. Das reich and wiking come to mind. They had much higher morale than other units (though this was actually a disadvantage, as i will explain) and tended to be ridiculously well equipped (again, this actually backfired majorly) and also were more physically fit than the heer so they could march faster.

Most ss units followed the same general pattern on the eastern or wester fronts.

On the offence:
>Frontally assault the enemy
>hope that muh aryan jeans can take the place of actual tactics
>once all of thier equipment and 80% of their manpower is destroyed, with none of their objectives have been achieved, decalre victory in the name of the aryan race
>retreat to essentially rebuild the formation from scratch for 4 months
>rinse and repeat

The best example of this is the 12ss at canne, they assaulted the candians who were entrenched in urban positions with heavy tanks while ignoring the open flanks of the canadians resupting in the loss of essentially all of their vehicles and more or less the complete destruction of the 12th ss as a formation. Had they used actual tactics and surrounded the city with their pamzers they could have struck a mortal blow to the allied landing forces. But the ss was so obsessed with their racial superiority they essentially activley refused to use proper tactics, instead opting for suicidal frontal assaults because of muh aryan honor.

On the defensive:
>very similar
>assume defensive position
>hold the position no matter what gets thrown at them
At this point either
>get surrounded and annihilated
Or
>hitler himslef gives them per,issiin ti withdraw, having lost all of their equipment and 80% of their manpower

This was a bit more effective, especially when eastern front commanders realized they could throw ss formations in the way of the most intense soviet assaults to buy them time for the real army to retreat and reorganize.
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>>4922301
this guy is probably falseflagging, I imagine he's British. Just like how the British post the meme map where France is saying that it did the most to win WW2.
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>>4926178
Overall the ss could have made effective fighting formations, had they not been given all the best equipment to thow uselessley at the enemy.

Had they instead been underequipped and used onley for suicidal las ditch defense to buy the real army time, they could have have been rather useful.

However overall they were a complete waste of resources. Especially given their autistic obsession with dying pointlessley to prove how loyal to hitler they were, thus meaning that if they were ever involved in a losing battle (i.e. 100% of battles post 1942) all of their combat experience was lost.
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>>4910990
yes, they had independently of the circustances a kill ratio over 2.0 with russians and 1.5 with briish and americans
they fought against the entire world ,the last knigh of europe
F
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>>4927535
Based xDD Heil Europa
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>>4927545
BASED france
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>>4927562
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>>4927566
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>>4927568
meanwhile in uk
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>>4927562
>>4927566
>>4927568
>>4927577
Inshallah meine Heren
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>>4927577
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>>4927535
im sure if the soldiers that fought with allies knew what would have hapened they would have allied with hitler
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>>4927562
>>4927577
the funny thing is that the countries that helped the kikes are most fucked one
rome dont pay to traitors ,kek
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>>4927603
[citation needed]
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>>4927535
HAIL
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>>4927622
super gay
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>>4927622
hail my fuhrer
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>>4927647
cute
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>>4927622
i wish have lived those times
HAIL
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>>4910990

It varied wildly from unit to unit.

The first three SS divisions (LSSAH, Das Reich, Totenkopf) started off with a poor fighting record because of a lack of experience and overzealousness but by the end of the war had developed a solid reputation.

9th and 10th SS (Hohenstaufen and Frundsberg) were formed later in the war and greatly benefited from the experience gleaned earlier. Maintaining a solid reputation throughout the war.

12th SS (Hitlerjugend) performed unusually well despite being largely made up of Hitler Youth wannabe soldiers. This largely stemmed from the fact 2,000 of its officers and NCOs were transferred from the LSSAH and brought with them the years of experience they had gained fighting in nearly every major campaign.

Einatzgruppen and the Totenkopfverbande were not intended as frontline combat units, mainly being composed of those who had flunked out of Waffen-SS training and wounded who were unfit for service. Their combat record was as could be expected, terrible.

The 36th SS (Dirlewanger) was more of a hazard to itself than it was to the enemy and the Germans were probably better off just executing all of its members themselves.

Waffen Grenadier units (SS units composed of non-German ethnicities) similarly had a wildly varied combat record, with Western volunteers from the Netherlands and Belgium generally performing far better (often on par with the Germans themselves) than their Eastern counterparts who were purely motivated by self-gain and anti-semitism rather than any kind of ideological devotion to National Socialism.
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>>4922159
This is some oversimplified shit but shit lost it anyway
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>>4927535
>they fought against the entire world
>angering the entire planet into uniting against you is somehow admirable
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>>4910990

Stated out bad but eventually learned and became a force to be reckoned with
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>>4927535

actually around 1.4 - 1.5 with ruskies (mostly because of sneaky attack in 1941 and low surviveability for soviet POW's) and 1.2 with western allies (mostly because France lost too fast)
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>>4911025
>SS
>light infantry
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>>4929840
Yes. Read about their appalling work.
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>>4927577
lmao this is fake news because I didnt see the muslim balls hitting in my face when they were fucking underage children
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>>4930127
>barely competent death squads
>light infantry

Please don't demean the branch I served in comparing them to glorified thugs
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>>4910990
They were highly trained special forces.
Not super soldiers mind you but they were extremely effective when they did get into frontline combat.
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>>4931032
>Entire division that's only experience was camping with the Hitler Youth
>Other divisions made up of fucking police and conscripts
Oh they were special alright
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>>4910990
there are many interviews on jewtube about veterans from both sides who fought with and against them
listen to these instead of the dimwits itt
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>>4931032

You're literally off the charts
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>>4927687

this
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>>4927622

hail
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>>4922159

Copypastas should result in autoban
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>>4927622

hail
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>>4910990
I’m putting together a team.
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>>4937644
Sounds like fun!
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>>4927622
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>>4912559

The Allies were dosing up their troops on amphetamines throughout the war as well.
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>>4920361

>they fought the satanic bankers
>captures a Rothschild but then let's him go

What did they mean by this?
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>>4927591

And how many veterans have you spoken to that have expressed this opinion?
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>>4939046

Pilots were taking speed as recently as 2001
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>>4910990

They were a mix
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>>4910990
Some parts were good fighters and dedicated to the cause. Some were not (pic related)
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>>4942016
>>4937644
You're a loose cannon, Dirlewanger, but goddamn it you get results.
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>>4910990
The SS were the poster-child of the Nazis, generally recieved the best equipment and were more likley to recieve promotions, medals and fame over their Wehrmacht counterparts even though the Wehrmacht fought just as hard and were just as devoted under futile conditions, they were Hitlers little Praetorians so they got all the fame the Wehrmacht generally resented the SS because of this especially during the late war years.
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>>4942133
>generally recieved the best equipment and were more likley to recieve promotions, medals and fame over their Wehrmacht counterparts
None of this is true, what is true is that Panzer and Panzergrenadier divisions received the best equipment first and the SS had mostly Panzer and Panzergrendadier divisions, also the official guard division was Grossdeutschland which was a Heer formation. In regards to fame the SS only has 2 noteworthy generals in Sepp Dietrich and Hausser (I refuse to count Himmler because he had no qualifications), while the Wehrmacht has all the meme generals
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>>4920361
>fighting satanists
https://youtu.be/ENYwv4TL4LU
>SS march in enemy lands, and sing a devils song
>Wherever we are we go forward, and the devil laughs like this
>Ha ha ha ha
Even the SS knew that they were satanic. It was literally built to be the volkisch vanguard of the nazi revolution.
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>>4927622
F
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>>4910990
bunch of cucks
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>>4920735
catholics are corrupted christians
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>>4942511
>None of this is true

Yes it is, I wasnt talking about generals, during late 44 and the closing war months during the siege of Berlin the SS were given more commendation over the Wehrmacht ,like I said this caused resentment from the Wehrmacht towards the SS
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>>4911017

this
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>>4923779
You can always audition for a ww2 movie
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>>4944167

I'm half-Jewish though
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There were several good divisions in the SS

i.e. LSSAH, III., V., VI., IX. (might be the X. both were sister divisions but one was godawful made of general conscripts while the other was amazing), XI., XII., XVII Divisions were all rather strong in comparison to even other veteran units in the German Army.
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>>4930999

>hey guys I was in the army look at me
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>>4937644
Didn't his outfit include homosexuals from concentration camps?
Also, what is /his/ thoughts on gay Nazis like Ernst Rohm?
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>>4911001
Haha I’d kick your ass faggot nigger
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>>4927622
Hail
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Don't mind me, I am just inventing special operations.
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>>4946761

What was his motive anyway?

He seemed way too smart for Nazism and worked with Israelis after the war?
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>>4947948
He wanted a life of adventure
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>>4911001
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>>4947972

So he indirectly helped perpetrate the Holocaust and then hunted down perpetrators of the Holocaust on behalf of its victims for the adrenaline rush?
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>>4942511
they were given prio on refilling, even in 1945 they had their halftrucks in the hundreds while avarage hanses were captured in bulks cuz of lack of motorization

but was not because SS was prioritized over the wehmacht, as anon said before quoting Balck, the OKH were operating firebrigades, where they wanted a few "elite" divisions to be the fist of the german army
they classified divisions by mobility and capabalities, they always tried to keep these divisions on highly mobile and capable/fully capable of offense level
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>>4948129
>trained by the USSR
no, they didn't receive any training. It was more aline with the zulus facing the british but instead of lacking in firepower they lacked in organization.
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>>4911001
Membership of the SS was limited exclusively to Nordics, who aren't white
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Serious question for people that can speak in historical terms other than memes and accusations.

I know Hitler (and to a certain lesser extent the German high command) had a tendency to expect too much from some of their "elite" units like paratroopers, which led to extremely high casualties and appearance of failures.

Was the same not happening with the SS divisions? I can easily see Hitler saying things like, "Of course the LAH can hold off several Slavic corps, they're the pride of the great German army and race!"
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threads like this remind me why /his/ should be deleted
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>>4912685
What the fuck, is this some new contrarian theory I haven't heard of yet? There's something new every day. Please enlighten me.
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>>4946181
so was hitler
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>>4949994
thats just propaganda
Divisions reported losses daily, that was sent to high command which then calibrated the combat readiness of a unit, you can ofcourse say blablaba slavic untermentch but then on paper it pretty clearly says you lost 25% of your soldats and 75% of your equipment and you had to retreat
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>>4930999

I think that this is the most retarded post I’ve ever seen.
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>>4949014
Yes
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They were the closets think to a modern, elite fighting force. The SS at its peak would roll over the modern Russian conscript army today even. Dont let reddit fool you about the 2nd world war
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>>4952498
>They were the closets think to a modern, elite fighting force

I recon the Fallschirmjager may just beat the SS for eliteness 2bh
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>>4952498
>The SS at its peak would roll over the modern Russian conscript army today even
Couldn't even beat them in 1941 lmao
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>>4952498
>The SS at its peak would roll over the modern Russian conscript army today even.

Reminder that the average Russian enlisted man has more combat experience than the average SS trooper in 1941.
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>>4911017
that is a myth that the Waffen SS got more and better equipment.
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>Gets destroyed by the Polish army
Hmm.....
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>>4954466

Didn't they get priority for receiving new equipment like the Tiger I and II?

The premiere SS divisions (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, ,9th, and 10th) also received camouflaged uniforms en masse, which the Wehrmacht didn't.
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>>4927687
this
>>4920084
its a myth that Heer soldiers did not commit war crimes or that all SS were zealots
SS Viking had a clean record and there are others
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>>4956813

Finnish SS were probably the best behaved overall.
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Bump
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>>4936278
it's not hard to spot people who aren't from 4chan on this board such as yourself
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>>4949014
Yes
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>>4922159
*SNAP*
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>>4956760
Depends entirely on which camo smock you're referring to, Splittertanmuster was issued to everyone whilst some of the later designs were patented by an SS officer who refused to give them to the Heer or Luftwaffe until later in the war
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>>4947948

He worked with the Isrealis, ACCORDING to the Isrealis.

In his memoirs he certainly was no anti-jew. Much more anti-himmler. But based on his memoirs it would be a stretch for me to believe he would kill nazis for the isrealis unless his life was threatened.

The accounts of how he came to work with the isrealis seem overdramatized, a symptom of his mystique post war.
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>>4949014

Meh, the Isrealis revealed he was working for them 25 years after his death.

Could be there way of discrediting someone who was de-nazified in absentia in 1952.

His memoirs are very pro hitler, anti wehrmacht. Anti Himmler, anti communist, but pro ukrainian, pro russian(soldier) pro american soldier etc.

He claimed Hitler was well aware of Hess' plans to go negotiate with the Brits, but was disavowed when it failed.
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>>4956760
Tiger E and Bs were organised in schwere panzer abteilungs, heavy tank batallions and attached to divions for operations

the only division where a heavy tank batallion was permanently in the ranks of the division is the 1st SS maybe
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>>4927581
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>>4927622
t. suburban american kid
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>>4949994
Some of the more "elite" divisions were more motorized then the standard Wehrmacht divisions, they would often be used as a "fire brigade", to plug holes in the lines and prevent breakthroughs, so naturally they saw quite a bit of combat. The SS also tended to not want to surrender, since their fate wasnt rosy. This led to higher casualty figures.
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>>4946181
>191487
>1487
You had one job.
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>>4952498

Imagine being this delusional
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>>4947948

He liked being edgy
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>>4922159
>when you are dealing with people whose violence is beyond comprehension in it's scale when it's directed at themselves
China
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Better equipment = better confidence = better score

It's that simple
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>>4962833

Sauce on that pic?
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What's /his/'s favorite SS commander? For me, it's Theodor Eicke.

Hard Mode: No Dirlewanger
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>>4910990
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>>4910990
Strength is multiplyed by intelligence
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>>4956831
exactly its not clear cut and simple my original point was
some are motivated by different things and behaved differently
not every one was in to muh master race larping even in the ss
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>>4964483
Battlefields: The Tankies
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>>4959734
no im finnish
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>>4961304

Lol
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>>4965067

Thx
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This whole thread is just one big cringe compilation.
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>>4922159
>Einstein
>white

lmao
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>>4967533

This whole board is a cringe compilation bigger than /pol/
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>>4927622
H A I L
A
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>>4927535

R-REI KOZ, IS THAT YOU?
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>>4920741
Why is Judaism now the Jew of religions?
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>>4920180

This
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>>4968477

dafuq?
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>>4926133
>Insert herodotus-esque cycle of civilizations BS
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>>4912685

/thread
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>>4964839
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>>4927647
Where those the same 12 year olds that were sent to fight and die at said age?
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>>4927657
Pedo and a Nazi, I'm extremely shocked really
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>>4968477

I never got Latin America's fascination with Nazis
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>>4927622
You fucking retard. First Sieg, than answer with Heil. This three times. Why the fuck do you idiots don't even know your own stuff?
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>>4968931

It is
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>>4910990
Why do people attack the SS? Nazi Germany under Hitler was not a dictatorship and Hitler was not a dictator. He was elected by the German people through a referendum.
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>>4976102
it´s on a UFO cult tier level, altought there were genuine ethnic german nazi groups in the 30s and left some influence in politics, mainly among the military
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>>4910990
Glorified Zealots
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>>4978859

this
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>>4927622
HAIL
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>>4978859

/thread
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>>4910990
The Allgemeine SS were government goons with zero combat experience until the last month of the war.
Actual German Waffen-SS was well trained but deteriorated as their fallen were replaced with foreign conscripts. Still this is were you'd look for early commando forces especially in Gebirgs- and Fallschirmjäger divisions.
SS foreign legions probably strongly varied in effectiveness.
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>>4947948

Being a liar, great at PR, and shit at everything else. All his successes were built by other people: he failed in all his personal plans.

He was great at selling himself to the feudal Nazi system, though, and after the war he managed to literally meme his way through. If you don't believe me, read the memoirs of the paratroopers that had to suffer him during the GranSasso raid: he was a selfobsessed incompetent.
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>>4922159
*snap*
Yep.
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>>4910990

What's that medallion on his left breast?
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>>4912659
I agree
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>>4978403
He was appointed chancellor, he wasn't elected to any position and he lost his presidency bid
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>>4910990
They were very successful.
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>>4974849

No
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>>4952498
Meh, the Russian army is just a paper tiger so that's not saying much
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>>4911025
>SS
>high loses
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>>4984735

Worse than the Wehrmacht
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>>4910990
Second World War, the SS especially, was a great example of how macro-tactics are better than micro-tactics.
The average SS soldier seriously outclassed the average allied soldier, but ffs... Did the nazis even have a greater plan at all?
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>>4947948
He helped the Israelis once and it was not killing a Nazi, it was kidnapping him from Egypt because he was working on a nuclear program for them or some such. Allegedly the guy just disappeared after.
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>>4952498
The 101 and special air service send their regards.
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>>4985921
>The average SS soldier seriously outclassed the average allied soldier
>takes three weeks to put down some Jews with handguns and beer bottles.
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>>4912659
so what was the SS for exactly? specialty? or was it for genetic purity or something
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>>4942580
kek? all three of those men are braver than your projecting ass
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>>4948129
kek
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>>4913378
I can’t remember the battle but the entire Das Reich division got BTFO by an American infantry regiment backed up by a battalion of tank destroyers, they were completely encircled and took heavy casualties before surrendering
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>>4988371

It was Hitler's way of shitting on the corpse of the Weimar Constitution and having a military force at his disposal that was politically reliable and answered directly to him instead of the Wehrmacht. Basically what the Marine Corps is, but with vastly less accountability or competence.

There was also a prohibition against members of any political parties (Nazis included) from enlisting or being commissioned in the regular German armed forces that wasn't rescinded until very late in the so the Waffen-SS was a loophole that Nazi Party members could use to do military service without giving up their membership.
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>>4948129
kek
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>>4918342
>frogs
>best infantry

Also I’ve always wondered what would happen if you dropped a Marine division that had gone through a brutal campaign against the Japs in Europe to fight the SS. How fucked would the SS (or Marines) be?
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>>4988410
Marines from what country?
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>>4988428
US my dude, I know the Germans faced Soviet naval infantry in Sevastpool I think
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>>4988447
Oh US Marines, they would get annihilated.
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>>4988461
>God has a hard-on for Marines, because we kill everything we see!
>He plays His games, we play ours!
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>>4912659
does anyone have the 13 SS mountain division, constanza look like alike
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>>4988918
It's one of my favorite pictures ever.
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>>4989150
danke shoen
(viet costanza would perfect, except, for the bubba'd sks)
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>>4988400

What helmet is that cover for?
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>>4989580
I believe that's just a hat.
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>People still ignore the fact the Brits had the HARDEST inland fighting in Normandy due to the fact they faced a fanatical SS teenage division along with other panzer divisions

Hmmm really makes you think.

Omaha beach xDD
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>>4989630
SS Hitlerjugend?
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>>4989638
That's the one
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>>4952498
2/10
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>>4952498

How fucking stupid are you?
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>>4910990
Overall the SS was one of several redundant institutions that wasted Germanys limited resources.
Ironically the SS had a high bar for the racial purity of recruits than the Heer, but a lower standard for things like age and physical fitness during the war. Otto Skorzeny first tried to join the Heer and was turned down on account of his age. He conducted all his legendary Commando exploits under the umbrella of the SS.
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>>4990936
>Ironically the SS had a high bar for the racial purity of recruits than the Heer, but a lower standard for things like age and physical fitness during the war.

That was kinda the whole point of the SS
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>>4988461
>mfw Marines give the SS the Jap treat meant and take no prisoners
>mfw they start searching dead SS for gold teeth

How would the SS even react to that? Did the Soviets do anything similar to them?
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>>4922304
>a few
oppenheimer
feynman
bethe
frisch
hahn (maybe)
rotblat
peierls
hornig
serber
rossi
segre (seaman)
ulam
szilard
von neumann
wigner
teller
kurti
von karman
lax

lol jews were more than 60% of the the top level scientists at the manhattan project.
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>>4922159
gay desu
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>>4992839
>Did the Soviets do anything similar to them?
Well they used to take great efforts to remove their SS blood type tattoos when encircled
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>>4920735
>C*tholics
>Christian
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>>4992839
>mfw Marines give the SS the Jap treat meant and take no prisoners
>mfw they start searching dead SS for gold teeth

Post yfw Anne gets franked by the green weenie
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>>4927622
Hail
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>>4930999
>light infantry
>branch
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>>4920361

Nazism is literally Satanic
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>>4999227
>being a slave morality christ cuck
>>4992839
>implying
SS would wipe he floor with the amerimutts

Everyone knows Americans are shit in a fair fight
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>>4927535
>le ebin based saviors of europe xDDDDD
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>>4999266
One of the supposedly elite SS units, Das Reich, that was also backed up by a panzer unit got encircled and BTFO by a regiment of American Infantry and one battalion of M10 Tank Destroyers. I’m sure the Marines could take on some Edgelords
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>>4999293
You can find lots of examples of top tier American units being raped by volksgrenadiers

Marines could barely handle some japs with a few banzai charges let alone the SS
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>>4999385
>barely

Nigger it was a fucking Turkey shoot
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>>4999403
>Guadalcanal
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>>4947948
he was a radical centrist
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>>4947948
>too smart

The national socialists were vastly more intelligent than the liberal establishment ducks

Look at the Nuremberg IQ tests
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>>4999414
Literally the definition of a Turkey shoot, an outnumbered group of Marines obliterated an entire “elite” Jap regiment
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>>4996091

Guy on the right
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>>4910990
Literally heroes. Cartoonishly good guys.
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>>4949994
>Was the same not happening with the SS divisions? I can easily see Hitler saying things like, "Of course the LAH can hold off several Slavic corps, they're the pride of the great German army and race!"

see unternehmen sonnenwend

it was himmler's first time at an actual combat posting too
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>>5000549
>Himmler
>combat command

Could you even think of someone less qualified for that position?
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>>5001662
Ferdinand Schoerner, the guy who killed thousands of his own soldiers by summary execution like a 40K Commisar
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>>5001679

Holy shit
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>be SS
>all you do is punch communists
>don't really do anything militaristic until around 1940
>you're just a propaganda tool
>only good at fighting through veteranization, semi-good leadership (depended on the division) and dedication to fight for a shitty ideology.
>Die in a ditch in Belgium
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>>4911001
Found the nigger
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>>5002951
>>all you do is punch communists
The freikorps straight up beat the USSR in the 20's, along with their allies in the General Jewish Labor Bund and all the other bunds. Yeah, they were good. Those weren't even the elite, those were just volunteers.
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>>4988761
F
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>>4940699
they substituted speed for modafinil and other bettr wakfulness inducing drugs.
source:currently cant fucking sleep cause moda
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>>5000000
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>>5005236

What was it?
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>>4962833
But the SS got the leftovers when it comes to equipment
The SS had to scavenge the Czech and French factories for equipment when preparing for the invasion of Russia
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>>4996091
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>>4999266
>America shit in a fair fight

Wut? I swear /his/ gets dumber everyday
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>>4974257
>Detroyer
Cant even write in his own language
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>>5007324
>implying Americans fight fair ever
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>>4965073
>no im finnish
Is that suppose to be good?
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What the hell are you retards arguing about? I've seem this thread for weeks.
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>>4999266
Gr8 B8 M8
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>>5008915

We're memeing about the SS
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>>4996091
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>>4920084
Klingenberg?
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>>5011780
>Klingenberg

Yeah no.
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>>5008875
>implying anyone with half a brain wouldn’t




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