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What skill level are you trying to reach before you'll be satisfied? Got any picture examples of your goals? Mine is pic-related but I am stuck on the stupid boring stuff like anatomy & shapes for now.

>inb4 my goals are shit
Fuck you.
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I have deceptively high standards.
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I will never be satisfied
I aim to be the very best
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>>3258206
I have an artist I admire. He draws like shit. Tumblr level at best. Really bad skillwise. But I want to be like him. Because he consistently draws the best fetish porn. It's not the technique. It's the way he makes people wait for his name to show up on the feed. The way he makes me think "if he posted something new, I'm fapping tonight." If I can make someone feel for me what I feel for him I think I'll have peaked in my art life.
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>>3258217
this but better than this faggot
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>>3258206
i dont know where my goal is i just know its higher than this
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This is my goal, I really like the way his digital paintings look like real paintings. But I can't draw or paint for shit.
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>>3258218
I have one of those. Two of those. A small number of those. 4 times a year I have a truly amazing fap and I do my best to reach that level.
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>>3258218
Yev?
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No bs, Ruan Jia is my ultimate goal. this is my favorite work of his, the beauty and lighting...
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>>3258233
This guy? http://yev-san.tumblr.com/

No. Way, way worse. Take this pic https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1481094 and make it a bit worse in terms of technique. I'm not going to post pic/link of the artist I like because it's some fucked up pixiv artist and I think you wouldn't want to see it..
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>>3258255
>whoosh
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>>3258255
Mine was https://static1.e621.net/data/sample/48/bb/48bb0d105ab179ce3c1dbed373d23e41.jpg

Get on my level.
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>>3258229

>>3258218
what kind of fetish are we talking about here guys?
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>>3258315
One you didn't know you had.
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>>3258316
Expanding knees?
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>>3258211
this is p easy to achieve, not sure why you havent gotten there yet
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I'm constantly amazed that Miura managed to get even better, I'd say he achieves perfection from chapter 200-300 but I'd be happy if I could draw how he did when he started making Manga
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>>3258316
I'll ask one last time, I was pretty genuinely curious about this and idk if I'm being memed by you, if what you said was real then there's no harm in saying it anonymously. No one is going to laugh at you.
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>>3258350
I'm not the original anon, but horihone saizou, juumaru shigeru https://exhentai.org/?f_doujinshi=1&f_manga=1&f_artistcg=1&f_gamecg=1&f_western=1&f_non-h=1&f_imageset=1&f_cosplay=1&f_asianporn=1&f_misc=1&f_search=shounen+zoom&f_apply=Apply+Filter and this one dude that does a thing are it. It's probably better than what he's aiming for but it's not like it's great.
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>>3258330
bc i suk
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I'm going at art by small increments. This is my immediate goal.

The plan is to do seriously thicc thotties in two years
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>>3258388
You can learn to do that in a day anon, but the clothes she wears will vary, and to do it in a variety of poses would require a month. But you can draw that right there today.

Do some measurements of the picture and notice how the eyes begin halfway at the head. and how the hairline (for where the hair begins) is slightly below the top of the actual hair.

Her head? You can literally just use your picture as an example and measure the distance between the eyes from each other to get a gist of how to position other parts like eyebrows, mouth, nose, blush. The chin is just an extra ellipse. The hair can easily be swapped out with a variety of hair styles. She's like 2 heads tall and has no neck, she has no hands either. It's really basic. Post your examples of trying to draw that.
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gonna post 3 pictures of what i want to achieve

1/3
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>>3258397
2/3
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>>3258398
3/3
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>>3258393
You can learn but not master in a day.
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>>3258400
>>3258398
>>3258397
and how far have you gotten to meeting this goal Anon?
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>>3258397
>>3258398
>>3258400


anon you can do it
i believe in you
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my grandpa said I have to be the best artist on earth cause a [my last name] can't be less
so that
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>>3258407
The shit I have seen pinoy furry artists do while they ride me dick would astound you. You're fucked m8.
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>>3258397
>>3258398
>>3258400
Who are these artists? They inspire me now.
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>>3258393
The thing is, I understand copying this is easy. But I agree with >>3258403
that while I can copy the aesthetic in a day and trace till I got a good grasp on proportions, for example, I would not really understand it enough to make from memory anything I want.

So I'm taking it slowly, because it's my first week with a tablet. This is as far as I went on day one imitating that.
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>>3258410
well if I can't be the better artist by skill alone, I can always execute my plan B
remove the competition
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zedig's more cinematic stuff, filmic / painterly stuff. his stuff seems so creative and miyazaki esque , just a shame he's heading down the tumblr route
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>>3258416
That's more like it.
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>>3258419
Maybe his mom is kicking him out of her basement soon and he has to get a real job now meaning he has to make art that will actually generate a revenue. Guess what makes money?
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My goal is just to learn to draw both mythical and real animas really well, nothing too mind blowingly difficult but not the easiest either. Want to be approximately as good with pencil as the related pic, know how to ink very detailed fur, have amazing anatomy, and learn basic coloring with promarkers or copics. Basically, short version, just want to draw animals realistically but slightly simplified in terms of coloring.
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>>3258459
Also related to what I want to achieve
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>>3258255
>fucked up pixic artist
>can’t draw
Nozarashi satoru?
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>>3258206
1/2
Roger Dean
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>>3258507
2/2 Moebius
I just love these colors and would like to do something similar. I've got a long way to go.
There's also Araki's art for the character designs.
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>>3258206
I gave up any kind of end game thinking a long time ago. I plan on painting and drawing my whole life, retirement to me is more time for painting. Stop worrying about the end, and concentrate on NOW, and what you're learning, and learn to enjoy the process. Why limit yourself before you've even started?
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>>3258507
Roger is an interesting guy, I had a chance to meet him when he did a gallery show where I lived, and used some connections I have to get VIP. Sweet guy, really nice. I talked to him about art, and his education, and he said he went to college for furniture design, and got into rock art accidently, and designed to pursue it full time later on. He never studied art formally. He's just got an amazing imagination, that led him down the path he took. He showed me an early painting he did that caused problems reproducing it, because he'd mixed automotive paint with oils for the background, and had used a metallic gold spraypaint that didn't photograph right, he didn't know what was "proper" for painting and just used whatever he had on hand.
My signed copy of Views is probably one of my most prized possessions. Really awesome dude.
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>>3258512
having goals isn't limiting yourself dude, they're not set in stone
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>>3258527
Didn't understand my point, dude.
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>>3258522
Thanks for sharing Anon. I wish I could meet him too.
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>>3258535
Looking at his facebook page, he's still doing shows and meetups, might want to keep an eye out for any near you.
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if i could draw at this level id stop immediately and never improve, just keep shitting out art at that level
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This
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>>3258593
You can probably reach that level on the left in 4 or 5 years.
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I want to be able to draw faces like Hirame
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Akihiko Yoshida levels of style and consistency.
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>>3258635
Yeah, how do you get to this level?
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>>3258639
What's so difficult about it? It's just a montage of multiple characters. Break it down to each one, on it's own, it's not that complex.
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>>3258644
post your work
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Dang all I want is to be able to draw crude comics consistently. I'm definitely going a roundabout way of pretending to learn to draw good instead of actually sitting down and pumping out turds till I improve. I want to be able to draw like Mobius eventually, but I feel like beginner and mid level goals are almost more important to set and achieve.
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i know that its not the most anatomically correct shit, but i love the confidence araki has in his art
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>>3258655
Suck my dick.
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>>3258214
Who drew that?
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>>3258655
Here
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>>3258415
I drew a couple pictures of >>3258388 and applied what I learned from copying it to >>3258415. I'd show you a sketch I did from scratch, but I currently can't upload pictures to my computer.

My picture's bad, but it proves the point >>3258393 was trying to make.

You can start drawing anything whenever you want to. Studies are just for studying.
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>>3258664
same desu except i cant draw outside of middle schooler level
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I want to be able to draw and paint characters and backgrounds for a VN I want to write.
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>>3258462
ed-ward?
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>>3258779
Good luck anon. That used to be my goal too, but I don't get involved with VN anymore since they're kind of niche.
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>>3258779
You can just take pictures of similar areas and run a filter over them. That's how Katawa Shoujo did most of the backgrounds. Character art probably isn't too bad. You could just do manga studies over and over. The hard part is CGs, since you can't really cheat with them, but that's okay because you can half ass them and nobody will notice. Pic related.
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>>3258784
Thanks. The success of DDLC and VA11-Halla make me want to really try it.
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>>3258846
stop posting your disgusting fat fetish furry garbage you piece of fucking subhuman filth.
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>>3258739
What's middle schooler level?
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>>3258598
>5 years to draw like ONE

His panels are uncanny but his actual drawing skill? Cmon
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>>3258857
the level i draw at
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>>3258217
This.

But better than >>3258219
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>>3258878
That's not how you do construction anon.
I'd suggest starting with a wireframe (stickman but better) of your pose before adding them mannequizations
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>>3258361
>horihone saizou
>not great
Are you serious?

>>3258350
Am back here. It's kind of torture, but not any specific kind of torture, could be any thing with or without bondage etc. It's the creativity and originally put on torturing that sets him apart from other artists. Not the technique, not the fetish tags, just the fact you know whatever he draws is going to be something you haven't seen before. It sounds simple at first, but in the internet most porn pics fetish or not look like something you have seen before. So someone pumping out originality like that is truly refreshing and worthy of admiration.
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>thinking it's possible to reach a goal you'll be satisfied at

This topic is bait to see who's NGMI.
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>>3258782
Who now? Doesn't ring a bell. Surely not my name.
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>>3258948
Retard here, what's NGMI?
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>>3258206
I’d kill to draw like Millionfish.
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>>3258973
What on earth is this style. This is the first time I've ever seen something do this to my eyes. Interesting.
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>>3258972
>>3258971

>not knowing NGMI

Never gonna make it.
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>>3258976
Right? It’s so weird but I love it so much. The originality and creativity of it...
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For me it's Matthieu Cousin's Art.
I love how simplistic be complex it can get

>full blown endgame
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>>3258990
Another pic
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>>3258992
>>3258990
Oh, fuck yeah. This guy rules.
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Ruanjia level painting, Kim Jung Gi level drawing
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>>3259006
>Kim Jung Gi level drawing
dream on
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>>3258861
Hey, I remember you on a billion other threads I was on. I may hate fat furs, and not be a fan of your art, but I like your personality. Keep being you, you amuse me sometimes with your responses.
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Why so many animus?
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>>3258732
thank you, I'd like to see them

I drew another study of the aesthetic last night >>3258678
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>>3259063
>red nose
>red knuckles
why so tumblr?
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>>3259090
It's Loki, why do you think?
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>>3259092
lol, not even the signature makes sense. i read it as Wki
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>>3259092
if it wouldn't be for the shitty red nose (usually a sign for alcoholism/cold) it would be a great drawing. why do illustrators ruin their work with standard trendy copy-paste-style elements?
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>>3258706
Juumaru Shigeru
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>>3259101
I think anon is saying that he's a scandinavian alcoholic. The nose and knuckles are appropriate.
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>>3259105
it's a great drawing, but the fucking meme nose! ...
>>3259063
great, classic shading on the cloth, indirect light on the hood, great contrast with very well set black accents, awesome posture (you can argue about the stone he sits on, but whatever)
ruined by tumblr nose. its a shame.
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>>3259056
Stop it, my ego can only get so big.
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Something like this is what I'm going for. Overall "painterly" feel, stylized but with still "sexy" anatomy (I draw gay porn). Nice colors.
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>>3259154
This is where I'm at now.
Trying to get out of overly-airbrushed hell by being more confident with shading/colors so I don't have to rely on too many layers, etc.
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>>3259157
just stop using the soft round, use a hard round with opacity set to pen pressure
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>>3259164
Well, I do know that, Anon. I've been using the round one as a crutch so I don't have to think too much about where the shadows should be harsh and where they should be soft.
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>>3259154
>>3259157
>uses muscledude for example
>draws shota
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>>3259157
Ahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahhaahahaha
What the fuuuuuck
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Posting some inspiration, that maybe one day I'll be able to slightly reach.
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>>3259273
This dude does mainly marble scultping, beautiful stuff, also a tattoo artist.
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>>3259274
Dont know who made this, but they are pretty damn good.
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>>3259277
That's Kim Jung Gi.
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>>3259277
This picture is amazing. Made by a comic artist who died last year I believe. Cant recall the name but a reverse google image search should provide answers.
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>>3259283
I'll never be anything close to this, but it's just too good not to mention.

>>3259279
Thanks bud.
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>>3259289
>I'll never be anything close to this, but it's just too good not to mention.
just one train of thought on that: the painting by hirschl was done hundred years ago. today, we are bombarded with visual stimuli: tablets, flashing advertisements, tv, internet, easy cheap reproductions of any works- photos and fine art, digital screens and their attention-whoring animations everywhere, in shopping malls, on public transport, in hospitals.
i think it was easier back than to take your time, up to a whole year to finish a painting. the pace of everyday life was slower, more calm than today. "high art" like that of Hirsch is hardly possible today, because young painting students don't have the facility, like anyone else, to concentrate and dedicate their time to such a huge work, using real models, working thoughfully in layers, arranging things in the picture perfectly etc. it's an actual painting.
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>>3259300
I see what you mean.
I'm a prime example of this, I have little patients.
I did a water colour painting a couple weeks a go. Spent a fair bit of time getting the composition down but I havent done much water colour painting and did it in a couple hours. I may try it again but paint it over a course of a few days.
Thanks for the insight.
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>>3259311
i have the same struggle. everything has to be finished fast, move on to the next. but i want to change a lot of my old paintings since after a few years, and i probably will.
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>>3259157
>generic green hill blue sky background
>in porn

You need to reevaluate your art choices.
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>>3258206
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>>3259370
Who is this badass
Love the way everything is done
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>>3258510

Mon negre
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>>3258206
noir comic level, to be able to consistently draw people/character and have a good enough understanding of lighting to be able to depict scenes using only black and white.
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>>3259283

Bernie wrightson, dude

Amazing stuff
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Minimum satisfaction for me
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>>3260429
nice, you'll love framed ink if you you haven't already fallen upon that book yet

(you probably have)
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>>3258206
Anything done by Karl Kopinski and I would feel accomplished.
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>>3258206
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I don't intend to ever be satisfied with my skill level.
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>>3260837
You're going to make it
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>>3260782
>framed ink
i had not
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>>3258206
This
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>>3258970
only the single most famous (and only) doggirl in anime!!!
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I really want to get something similar how the closing arguments look in Danganronpa.
I like it's stylized and how expressive it is.
The panel pacing is a little weak because of how these comics are just a minigame, but still.
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if i can ever reach the level of peyraverney or kolesov i will die a happy artist
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>tfw college profs said they weren't able to teach me anything new
>literally went for a bullshit certificate and sat around
>it still isn't enough

It'll never be enough anon
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>>3261473
>drawing ugly men is the goal
>literally drawing badly is the point of ugly
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Takamichi or range murata for rendering and colour
Yoshinari for gesture and motion
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Barely competent comic artist is my inmediate goal
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>>3258973
Reminds me of Lupin III
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Same as op kinda, I just wanna be able to make cool comics/manga.
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>>3259283
Stunning in how a picture with so much detail I could find the chracters within seconds of opening the image. But at the same time they look like they're a part of the image.
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easy, inoue takehiko's god-level; pre-ink brush period though
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>>3258948
This thread is just an excuse to post artists we like.
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>>3262096
>What skill level are you trying to reach before you'll be satisfied?
the fuck do you expect faggot
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>>3261907
> thinking making ugly characters is making bad art
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>>3261907
I mean that's basically the goal of every tumblr user except they want to draw ugly women too.
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>>3258666
I really love his inking and color choices. Also his improvement is awe inspiring even if some errors have gotten worse like the SBR Jojolion art style having same face and really thin arms compared to a wide torso most of the time.
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>>3261988
Because it is.
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>>3258217
This but slightly below this faggot >>3258886
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no goal, i just keep going and end up happy with my best at that moment. i think we should all be that way, but thats just my opinion!
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>>3258206
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>Satisfied

That is impossible. I'll never be satisfied. Even if I'm the best, that won't be good enough.
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>>3258206
At the very least I want to construct and stylize things, no matter organic or man-made, with ease while having great linework, flow and showing textures and materials.

>>3261473
I have The Art of Dishonored 2 in print. It gave me a massive boner.




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