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Envying those who live the dream edition
Porn thread for people who like drawing porn.
Hide degeneracy you don't wish to view, etc, etc.
NO furry, mods saids so.
Post finished works and W.I.P's here for critique.
Any questions in regards to reference materials will be answered.
Don't know where to start? Check the updated sticky- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#
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>>3458609
Damn, this guy is good.
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anyone know of useful tips for making sketched faces look appealing?
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>>3458609
if Suzanne Helmigh did porn
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would appreciate tips / redlining about the pecs area
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>>3459074
angle it upwards, especially in the raised arm. pecs are not perfect squares.
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>>3458609
quick question: in you porn do you prefer the man to look :
> ripped and generally super hot
>average and forgettable
>a fat and ugly fuck
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>>3458609

Yeah this guy's damn good, I just don't like the way he draws dicks. Always loads of bulging veins. And he usually adds to much cum/spit for my liking, but hey, just personal opinion.

>>3459051
The skin depth on this is great.
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>>3459266
Only allowed to be fugly if he's abusing/raping a hot guy/girl.
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>>3459266
anything but not the last one
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>>3459266
>>ripped and generally super hot
i don't fucking understand people that intentionally make disgusting old fat hairy males in porn
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>>3459313
they just know their target well

wish fulfillment and all that
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>>3459313
>>3459440
>wish fulfillment
actually no. as someone who enjoys it, to me the appeal is the humiliation/defilement aspect. It's hot to see something pretty, soft, and delicate looking be violated by something gross. same reason I've got a thing for the stray_pubic_hair tag on gelbooru.
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>>3459440
Do most people have that wish to one day become ripped and (possibly) hot? Being a /fit/ d/ic/k is patrician-tier.
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>>3459051
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>>3459445
disgusting psycho tastes. just like ntr, scat, gore, pedo and similar kinks of psychopaths.
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this took me forever
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>>3459836
>those feet
you need to know how to draw before you try to paint, otherwise you're adding sprinkles to a turd.
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>>3459851
>you need to know how to draw before you try to paint
lol no, you can learn them at the same time
as your anatomy gets better the entire pic will but dont wait with painting or you'll end up with sketches and no idea on how to finish a pic
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>>3459836
the bit with pearl's head floating near her lower bit really confused me. it looks like its connected.
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>>3458609
Updating my WIP.
God the face took me so long to make
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>>3459882
Change the hands for the love of god
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>>3459911
They are not so bad. maybe later i will adjust her right hand, that is the most different.
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>>3459855
This is horrible advice. Nobody listen to this pls..
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>>3459882
Those hands. That neck..
I cant even see the rest of the picture.. that is all my eyes are drawn too.
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>>3459937
What's wrong with the neck?
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I'm trying to draw a elf girl with a penis dripping cum in front of her face.
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>>3459941
Those. Massive shrug muscles. You gotta work out hard to get them like that.
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>>3459934
Explain how it's horrible advice?
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>>3459995
I have seen it so many times. Noobs taling days painting and polishing their deviant art tier trash when they could have instead done more sketches and actually make progress instead. Painting can take noobs fucking months man. It hurts to see it. They really need to just focus on sketches first for everyones sake.
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>>3459995
>>3460012
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>>3460012
You type like an angry teenager.
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>>3460026
>>3459836
>>3460012

Did you really just compare me to this person? Lmao are your eyes broken?

Im not even a noob i draw for a living.
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>>3460093
I think he was making a point about polishing turds vs studies.
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>>3459934
it is not.
just don't neglect developing your drawing skills.

you don't have to do it in any forced order master this first then that then that if you do that you will never finish a pic
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>>3459957
You forgot the cum dripping in front of her face. I would start there. Then clean up your linework.

I myself could never finish a painting, I always avoided colors but would sketch all the time. Now, I'm trying to figure out how to actually make a complete product. Pic related.
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>>3460129
r they supposed to be squatting or laying down on their butts?
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>>3460026
there's something i really like about this guy's art though
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>>3460093
skill wise you v much are a noob.
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I didn't really know where I was going with this, mostly just playing around with different ideas.
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>>3459855
This is really not good advice.
You have to do both and focus on more important fundamentals.
Importance of fundamentals goes somewhat like this:
1. perspective
2. gesture
3. anatomy and proportions
4. values
5. color theory
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>>3459882
This pic is the definition of over-referencing.
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>>3459957
Didnt really understand the drawing, i imagine is an elf girl conjuring a lightning spell or something. Did my best. Honestly you have to work on your kangaroos more.
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>>3460330
Take your trolling somewhere else, crab.
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>>3460332
huh?
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>>3460337
KYS already.
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>>3460364
why?
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>>3460325
I would put gesture befire perspective.
Yes these are important you should study them, but still do finished works.
A lot of people here make the mistake of never applying their studies and stay in study limbos without progressing as an artist.
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I love drawing porn and making money off it but it turns me into a hermit because I can't tell anyone about this in my real life. Christian nations are very prude.

With concept art and illustration I can also pay my bills and tell people about it, even attach my own name to the images. Something that's compatible with a social life. But I don't enjoy it nearly as much,

Wat do...
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>>3460377
I know plenty of people who have boring jobs and just talk about other things. Just read some books in your spare time.
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>>3460215
they are sitting on something I didnt draw the something yet.
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>>3460377
>make hardcore 3d monster rape and similar stuff to pay the bills

"So anon, what do you work with?"
"I animate 3d models for various companies, freelancer you can call it."
"Oh that's cool! Can I see?"
"Nah, sorry, NDA brah."
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>>3460376
A lot of people here also make the mistake of polishing turds.
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>>3460376
Perspective > Gesture
Especially if you want to draw porn from imagination.
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>>3460544
lets agree to disagree
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>>3460541
at what point do you think a person should be allowed to finish their work lol

nobody goes 0 to hero in a single pic, look at any succesful artist's timeline, they didn't grind fundies fur years before starting their personal work, you will find finished projects of theirs with various level of skill
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>>3460550
I already stated what I think about this matter here:
>>3460325
>You have to do both and focus on more important fundamentals.
You have to be able to finish stuff, meaning you want to color and shade even if you aren't super good at it yet. But at the same time you can't lose focus on what it's the most important part of getting good; fundamental training.
To any beginner that is starting out I always say to try to have fun with drawing/studying but also be analytical about improvement.
That's the best way to go.
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>>3460556
this guy
>>3459836
is not an absolute beginner

telling him "learn to draw before you are allowed to paint" is cancer advice, even if he has to work on his anatomy - most people have to
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how sketchy is too sketchy? would you guys ever post something this crude to your blog, or does it feel like it would be too low-value?
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>>3460585
Just by itself someone could say that's a little lazy, but if you have multiple similar drawings on the same picture it should be fine.
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>>3460622
like a page of sketches? yeah that could look pretty cool. i always dig those when i see other artists post them.
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>>3460559
I didn't give him that advice. Please, you are on an anonymous board, don't assume stuff just like that.
These were my posts.
>>3460325
>>3460544
>>3460556
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>>3460585
On tumblr and twitter I post everything I make, minus some wip stuff and variants of artworks I give only to my patrons.
On Hentai Foundry I post more finished stuff.
It's up to you to decide what your blog is for.
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>>3460282
Cute, do you have a tumblr?
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>>3460635
mind linking your blog?
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>>3460700
http://bbc-chan.tumblr.com/
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>>3460738
oh thats funny -- the sketch i posted actually started out as a study of one of yours (monkey girl getting fucked).

even your rough sketches have a strong appeal to them, so i can see why you wouldnt shy away from posting everything.
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>>3459266
A fat ugly old man is the best desu, helps make contrast with the cute innocent girl or slutty hot thot.
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>>3460745
That sketch you posted is very appealing. I would post stuff like that on a blog any day, anon.
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>>3460756
thanks anon. i ended up refining it, but i think in the future ill keep em simple and just post the occasional sketch page like the other anon suggested. seems like a decent compromise between keeping a blog active in-between larger, rendered projects without making it a chore to scroll through a feed.
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>>3460638
http://whargleblargle.tumblr.com/
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>>3460778
Great use of skin tones.
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>>3460326
>Over-referncing
A new way to complain
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>>3460585
I like the sketch more than the finished work imo.
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>>3460879
thanks!
>>3461313
how come? did i mess up the shapes/colors, or is it maybe that the flat sketch lets you fill in the blanks in a more appealing way?
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>>3461261
general crit: if you arent already doing a ton of gesture practice, i would suggest making that a priority when studying. it'll help you with proportions, shape design, natural posing etc. if i were you id grind that stuff every day.
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>>3461319
Probably because I'm a NGM that can only sketch so I see more things to appreciate in it, such as the harsh shapes that got smoothed out a little in the painting. If I followed your blog I would get value out of being able to see both.
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>>3461365
thanks for the crit. i see what you're saying regarding the harsh shapes. i noticed that i'd lost the cresting shape of the butt in particular when rendering.
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>>3460585
Yeah dude, gestures are great portfolio pieces, this one is no exception. Just make sure to add the number of minutes it took.
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>>3461448
Please, don't listen to this. Nobody cares how much time you spent. You only come across as insecure.
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>>3461628
Oh, I didn’t mean to come across like that. When my group does life drawing we do gestures in rounds of 1min, 2min, 5min, etc. It’s just so a two minute gesture doesn’t come across as a one minute.
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>>3461725
Nobody cares.
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>>3461448
i dont really use my blog as a portfolio. id say most if not all of my commissions come from hentaifoundry, where id never post unfinished stuff.
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Working on this how does it look so far
Thots
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>>3462034
Iunno its not bad. It feels really loose but in a bad way. Maybe you should define more of the forms better.
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>>3461950
Well your stuff looks awesome man. I know plenty of figure artists who would love to draw like this.

Also, sorry about the time comment. I'm sorta new here on this board, and I thought this was a gesture drawing.
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>>3459672
stay mad vanilla tard
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Update in Wip
Changed the hair cuz i wanted a more summer thing
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>>3462197
>stay mad
>t.mad
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>>3462264
This pic is the definition of over-referencing.
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>>3462177
>Also, sorry about the time comment. I'm sorta new here on this board, and I thought this was a gesture drawing.
you weren't really wrong though. it was a sketch done during gesture practice. i often get lost in those and end up doing outlines more than gesture.
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Here again.
Thanks for the advices in the previous thread. I'm taking note
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>>3462685
Well, for a gesture it's amazing.
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>>3462713
thanks anon. if you want to see crazy good gestures, check out artists like karl gnass (pic related) or jeff watts. the motion and flow you see in their work is what gesture drawing is all about.
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>>3462264
her neck musculature looks quite off to me.
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>>3459836
stop tracing vaginas
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>>3462802
wip
>>3462726
prove its traced
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>>3462706

First panel middle row - there is no context within which a penis would be touching a clitoris like that. There is a whole urethra above the vaginal opening, and there should be a fleshy space between the urethra and clitoris. Your discernible virginity is no excuse. You clearly spend a lot of time watching porn - would it kill you to study a vulva?
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>>3462803
Study perspective more, anon. This is not how stockings wrap around thighs.
Also, your line weight needs more variation. Use thicker lines to determine contours of objects and thin ones to show form changes (areolas).
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>>3459882

the torsion in this piece is FUCKED

the head physically cannot be doing that while the navel is facing in that direction and the tiny shoulder on your screen's right side is connecting to the tit/armpit that way
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just made this, some feed back on the vag please¿
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>>3462821

the outer labia should be a continuous form that integrates the pubic mound into the asscheeks

you've basically got a plump little pussy sitting above an anus the way that testicles do

remember that the asscrack and the pussy slit are the same continuous line
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>>3462706
>penis is gray then purple
what is dick continuity.
>that arm tho
the middle panel where she's touching the dick through her...uh...stomach? looks awkward. like from all the shit I've watched no one points at the dick that's fucking them. also her legs are spread but then are closed in the next panel. kind of confusing.
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>>3462821
Gross.
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>>3462820
Will have it in account for the next pic
>>3462725
If you mean that is too big, I will reduce it later. If you mean anything else, I don't have a lot of reference on that pose
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>>3462829
oooh I see, thanks for the feed back

>>3462832
you too bud, sorry it grossed you out
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>>3462940
enjoy your ban
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>>3462942
No flat chested women in my world.
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Patreon is banning every NSFW artists pages, RIP
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>>3463027
only those that do loli/shota and beastiality
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>>3463027
Patreon creator speaking here.
Only incest, rape, bestiality and pedo stuff is off limits and even then they first review the page and give a chance to the authors to make changes.
Stop spreading lies.
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>>3462841
grab a mirror and make the pose. you'll notice your trapezoid muscles dont flare out that much. and its even flatter on women. also note how the sternomastoids converge in a V-shape and how much of your neck you obscure the farther down you tilt your head.
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>>3463150
Have you ever seen a penis before in your entire life?
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>>3459957
>>3460129
I updated it.
Going to color next.
I really like how the penis I drew turned out. Best peen I ever did I think.
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>>3463177
And then I forgot to post the picture.
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>>3459051
Blog??
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>>3462706
the dick through stomach panel makes it looks like she has no pelvic bone structure
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>>3463624
>she...
Oh anon....

Sure is summer I guess.
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I am looking for a redline of this, can it be fixed?
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>>3463150
nice feet
but legs are lacking ankles
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>>3463976
>nice feet
>nice
ROFLMAO
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>>3463877

?? The art they were replying to is clearly a woman though??? Did you think they were replying to >>3463215 ?
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>>3463877
you need glasses

or a better brain
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i cant fap to my own work yet.
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>>3462802
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>>3464008
Holy shit wtf was i seeing when i posted that?
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>>3464070
Well naw she looks like a 39 y/o annoyed wench... thats ur problem senpai shm
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>>3464199
This hurts my eyes.
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>>3463965
no, practice more, like a lot more
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>>3464214
>>3464215
>>3464218
>>3464223
>>3463993

Youre such a grumpy old man. Must suck having no friends.
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>>3464239
you should really stop assuming there's only one person that speaks their mind in here.
if art sucks balls it sucks balls, no matter how much you think it doesn't.
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>>3464252
Never said it was directed at one person. More of a general statement to everyone i quoted.
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>>3464252
>my opinion is the only one that matters WAAAAAH! n-needs more loomis!
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>>3464199
Her right foot disappears. Other than that this is good if you're going for the gerph look
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>>3459266
Actual well-drawn characters. Placeholder silhouettes are absolute boner-killer.
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>>3464413
nice hair. try grouping a couple of fingers together when drawing hands. it lets you simplify the shapes and it looks elegant.

>>3463258
https://basnip.tumblr.com/
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>>3464524
OK, I'll try that. Thanks.
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>>3464254
then learn to write, dumbass.
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>>3459310
This
>>3459277
>>3460750
Degenerates, the lot of you
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>>3464628
But I've had that fantasy before I even started school, so wouldn't it be the purest choice?
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>>3464523
how about if they're roughly sketched in as in pic related (but with a well drawn girl)? is that enough or is anything less than parity with the main subject a turn off?
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>need an account to view nsfw tumblrs
wtf where am i going to post my lewd comics now
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>>3464556
I didnt write anything. I typed it.
Dumbass.
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>>3464940
this board is 18+ rated. go away or stop acting like you're 12.
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>>3464529
>>3464529

you're approaching porn with the mindset of a mtg illustrator. you need to rewire your brain and get in tune with what is actually sexy.

for starters, your character is tiny relative to the frame.

the viewer wants to be close enough to smell the action.

>about this close should do
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>>3464566
uhm.. blog?
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>>3465079
Please say more things. I've literally lost touch with what is even sexy. I spent about 5 months "gitting gud" and I forgot what actually turns people on.
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>>3465100
https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=16041920
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>>3464726
Gently blend him into background haze leaving just a few key areas properly detailed (shoulders, dick, nose, chin and brow ridges for example) and you'll turn this work into highly artistic masterpiece without putting much extra work into it.
Pic related, dude on the top left.
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Critiques?
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>>3465079
>the viewer wants to be close enough to smell the action
That's profound advice, makes so much sense.
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>>3463150
>lack of trapezoids
>0 body definition
>perspetive fucked because lack of knowledge
>woman and man in 2 different planes
>no ankles
>guy body without real body definition because again, lack of knowledge.

i have a real question
how the fuck you trace something and manage to fuck it this bad?
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>>3465079
Words of wisdom, kids.
Follow this advice to the letter if you want to make appealing smut.
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>>3465368
Wery stiff lineart. You should learn to loosen up more. I see this in all of your artworks.
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>>3465529
>when your specialty is drawing legs but your friends ask you to draw porn
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>>3465688
>when you are bad at drawing
Fixed that for you.
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Does anyone else watch pornos and then pause and do a study on the freeze frame? I've started doing it and I feel like it's helping me think about angles and what I like being shown off.
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>>3465713
Grats for discovering references.
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Where can I find some tutorials on drawing naughty bits?
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>>3465795
Loomis.
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>>3465232
ooh, that might work. could be a good way to keep the background simple as well.

thanks for the suggestion.
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>>3465574
I'll keep at the gesture drawing, then. Anything important that needs to be fixed in the meantime?
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>>3458609
i had an idea for a porn drawing. i'm not a porn artist so i can't be bothered drawing it but perhaps one of you would like to have it?

ok you know how you can put a plastic bag over someones head to kill them, and they could breathe by poking a whole in the bag with their fingers, well what if that were a cock!

see then the girl has to like get the dude off to breath, it's like a weird violent thing

whaddaya think?

this isn't a request or anything by the way, just an idea, i'm not even into this sort of thing sexually, just thought it'd be a cool image and you pervs might enjoy it
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>>3465882
>pls make me a commission for free, im not a degenerate or anything i promise
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>>3465890
unironically
i just had the idea and i won't do anything with it.

i was secretly hoping for a crit on the idea without needing to do the drawing part tho lol
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>>3465904
>was secretly hoping for a crit on the idea
violence breeds violence. is this what you want to add to the world? your idea will affect people negatively. if drawn and consumed it would reinforce harmful impulses in people who seek out that kind of stuff.
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>>3465908
idk, i think pornography in moderation can be a useful release valve, plus i assume there's already a plastic-bag-on-head scene, so i'm not really creating something new but just contributing to a preexisting canon of filth.
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>>3465795
https://prismblush.com/tutorials/
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>>3465882
kys
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>>3465910
>i think pornography in moderation can be a useful release valve,
yeah maybe. the fuck do i know how the minds of violence fetishists work, really? but then, putting that kind of material out in the world without knowing how it affects people feels reckless to me.
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>>3465920
yeah that's a good point, okay, i rescind my offer, no-one can use that idea, i will enforce my copyrights
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>>3466000
Unironical advice. Stop drawing loli, cause it will only bring trouble. Be a fucking smart person and draw stuff that is not fucking illegal, you dumbass.
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>>3466015
>it will only bring trouble.
Way to be cattle
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>>3466017
You gonna start the revolution over drawn child porn? If you were that charismatic, life would never have led you down this path
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>>3466007
>furries are latent animal fuckers, hide your pets
>rape porn is only interesting to rapists
>i feel bad for your family if you like incest porn, sicko
one or more of these apply to you, so be a good lad, make the world a better place: kill yourself
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>>3466007
>>3466015
alright i understand the controversy, not trying to stir anything up just curious to the situation.
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>>3466028
For freedom of expression to survive, people must express themselves freely. I don't want to start a revolution, I'm just pointing out that you think like cattle. Why are you people even on an art forum, I don't get it.
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>>3466038
I get it man, but you should seriously rethink the content you want to put out there.
If you want to make it as a commercial (smut) artist, you simply have to conform to the norms.
I think the whole loli witch hunt is BS, but that's how things are.
Good luck.
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>>3466017
Way to NGMI.
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>>3466049
A lot of people don't give a fuck about art, me included. All I want is to be a successful commercial smut artist. And drawing pedo shit doesn't help to reach my goal. Thank god I find that kind of stuff disgusting.
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>>3466111
>don't give a fuck
Well, obviously.
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>>3466049
The biggest threat to freedom of expression are the idiots who pervert the idea of expression by forcing their naked children drawn for the money of perverts under it's label. Nobody wants to defend your poison anymore than they want to defend slander or harrasment as free speech
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>>3466119
>The biggest threat to freedom of expression are the idiots who pervert the idea of expression by forcing [drawing] under it's label.
ftfy
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>>3466000
Plenty of people draw loli, post it on pixiv, and make money from patreon using their non-loli art. Patreon doesn't give a fuck. Shadman, john doe, and jcm2 come to mind, they all draw filthy loli smut and make plenty of bank. Please don't listen to these puritan autists telling you to stifle what you want to make, they have no idea what they're talking about.
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>>3465045
Tell me that after you learn how to draw anything that isnt a stick figure.
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>>3466163
wow, you certainly showed him.
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>>3466142
>john doe
>https://www.patreon.com/JDArt
>$239 per Half a month
>make plenty of bank
kek
and then in his spare time he lies about being suicidal during his streams.
kids, don't be retards and don't listen to this idiot. draw legal shit and live happy lives.
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>>3466196
the point still stands that he's not kicked off the platform, dummy
also loli isn't illegal unless you live in some european nanny state or australia or something, in which case you have bigger problems
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>>3466198
of course he's not. he doesn't advertise loli on the platform.
my point is that he's depressed with machiavellianistic tendencies and he's struggling as an artist.
>murrica is better than uropoors
fantastic argument there, champ.

you realize how you just lost all your credibility, right?
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>>3466202
I'm just saying that if my government punished me for drawing cartoons I would want to leave
>of course he's not. he doesn't advertise loli on the platform.
read my post, I said they use exclusively non-loli art on their patreons, which is exactly what the guy originally asked about. please strive to understand a post before attempting to mount a relevant reply.
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>>3466204
I'm speaking about online presence in general.
you can't make a mainstream smut following if you base it on loli.
stop thinking with your ass already.
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>>3466119
>The biggest threat to freedom of expression are the idiots who pervert the idea of expression by forcing [thing i dont like] under it's label.
fuck off you negative iq nazi fuck, the world would be a lot better if we didn't have retards like you shitting on basic human liberties because youre butthurt that things exist
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what's the safest way to get paid for lewd commissions?
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>>3466232
>you can't make a mainstream smut following if you base it on loli
my dude.
the guy I was responding to was asking if the mere presence of loli at all (on sites where you don't get paid) is enough to get you banned on patreon. I said that it is not, which is factual. why are we still replying to each other
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That OP pic is fucking hilarious
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>>3466243
how so?
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>>3459836
I really enjoyed this thank you, you did well in capturing the color palette of Steven Universe
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>>3466255
Look at the setting, look at the faces they're making, what the fuck is going on.
The guy smirking in the back kills me.
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>>3459266
Disembodied dick and hands. I’m completely turned off by seeing other men. It’s why in real people porn I only watch girl on girl. I don’t know the reason why this is, I just don’t like watching other men, unless it’s /HMOFA/ related
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>>3459672
>forgot coal burning
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I have been drawing this since 2015, and nobody has helped me to fix it this is currently the 4th iteration of the same picture from the ground up.
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>>3466680
I think it looks good.
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>>3459266
I prefer all the people in my porn to be actual characters that have personality. I am bored to tears by porn that's just bits slapping together. Give me interesting character dynamics that accentuate the porn.
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>>3466728
well..hentai mangas exist
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>>3466015
this isnt loli considering the proportions, just because it has small tits doesnt make it one.

anyways>>3466000
by far the best one in here.
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first time drawing porn, something feels off but i cant put my finger on exactly what,i think its something with the legs and perspective of her top half, and obviously the missing nips + i didnt use a reference which was probably my first mistake.
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>>3466813
ill be honest, i was going for loli but i just put the idea down and only eyed the perspective so the porpotions are probably off a lot. changed some things in the sketch now with the perspective and how the back is too twisted. i tried making the pose irl and it was just almost possible and a bit uncomfortable
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>>3466853
I think her nipples aren't the only thing missing...
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>>3466813
whatever can be considered ambiguous should be avoided.

also
>by far the best one in here
kek
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>learning how to draw water dribble because I need to draw a girl pissing
hooray for porn, pushing boundaries every day
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>>3466949
>not buying a bunch of watermelons and moving all your art supplies to the toilet to draw from life
NGMI
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>click the porn thread for the first time
>absolutely nothing appealing posted throughout the entire thread

I don't know what I was expecting.jpg
Ganbatte hornyfags, a few of you have solid understanding of anatomy, keep at it.
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>>3466680

Anatomy and perspective look all wrong.
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>>3467033
It's a matter of preferences, my dude. Who knows, maybe you're into scat or unbirth...?
What pictures do you find to be better than the others?
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What do you guys think of these proportions? It's for a kid friendly story I'm writing, and I wanted to include illustrations as well.

I can't decide if the legs should be longer or not.
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>>3466913
in my ver he was going in her puss, but honestly your fix looks a lot more coherent with the pose, thanks anon, in the butt he goes!
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>>3467150
A kid friendly story? With those kardashian curves? Lmao
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>>3467153
The fuck dude? Not my fault rabbits are thicc.
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>>3467150
Pretty obvious to any normie that the rabbit has been sexualized senpai.
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Coming down home stretch. Critiques?
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>>3463188
Update on this.
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Pls critique / redline?
It’s my first time drawing

1. Profiles
2. Older/rugged looking men

So I’d like pointers in those areas please
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>>3467099
Even with extreme fetishes the body should be sexy and soft and the expression should generally be playful/pleasurable to get some attention from viewers. There's a guy that draws penis-people inside vagina-people inside pregnant-vagina people fucking each other which is some weird ass shit but he knows how to make it appealing.

Decent shit: >>3459051 >>3460585 >>3464565
>>3467853

>>3467853
They don't look manly, small soft jaws, they look like children with muscles. The expression of the guy in the right looks painful, the guy on the left looks tired. They don't have enough contact between them, nothing's pushing one character towards another other than that one stiff hand trying to reach the crotch. That guy with the cigarette is sitting on his leg, am I right? if so, why isn't there any weight being pushed there? Why isn't he leaning on him with his forehead, why are they so stiff? The contact between characters matters, ask yourself what they're feeling and exaggerate that as best as you can.
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>>3467926
Clicked on 3467853 twice by mistake.
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>>3467926
Thank you!

>That guy with the cigarette is sitting on his leg, am I right? if so, why isn't there any weight being pushed there?
actually he isn't

this is the reference I'm using, if it's any help

>Why isn't he leaning on him with his forehead,
good idea

>why are they so stiff?
t-that's exactly what's bothering me anon, I can't seem to get rid of the stiffness and it's driving me crazy. I know about gesture and stuff but I can't seem to aply it properly
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>>3468025
>reference
>copied the whole thing
why not just trace? you'd save yourself a lot of time
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>>3468153
Stop spouting bs. Tracing is the worst thing you can do if you are trying to develop a style.
Mistakes are what create an original style.
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>>3467536
her nose looks off-centre to me.

>>3467926
>The contact between characters matters, ask yourself what they're feeling and exaggerate that as best as you can.
great advice. it's something i struggle with all the time.
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>>3468280
>develop a style
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>>3468297
Begone crab.
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Like 98% done with this. Thoughts?
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>>3468319

Her eyes are further apart, even if you're going for some realism the eye on your screen's right side is too close to the nose and creates an awkward space near the temple
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>>3468319
She has a real man face going on. Also her nose seems too high or short?
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>>3462264
The lighting is fucked.

It looks completely as if she's in front of a picture of a beach.
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>>3468319
did you trace or reference a picture then get caught on transferring the face/hair likeness of the character to the reference?
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puff
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I go on my XXX Site like usual and i found this tonight. LMAO
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>>3458609

Do you guys think there's a market for (assuming they're skillfully executed) Elvgren style painterly and "tasteful" pinups?
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>>3468290
Is this 2 males pls say yes
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>>3462810
What you think now about the vagina?
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>>3469561
And this is the page that I'm working on
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>>3468280
Tracing is not the worst thing senpai. Pls...
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>>3469268
yes
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>>3458609
>>3459266
I really like that the guy in this has a relatively sweet/friendly face, and is smiling and enjoying the bj rather than smirking at the woman like a smug hentai protag or making a gruff macho face like a porn star.
Not really any of your categories, but a decently attractive body and a charismatic face is good, seeming likeable is more important than being convenionally attractive. It's nice to think he deserves the good time and/or that they're both enjoying themselves.
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>>3467536
>ammo belt on bare chest
Christ. (not a criticism, just thought it was funny. Jinx isn't the most rational person ever though so it works.)
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>>3468521
her face is unappealing imo. mouth and nose could use another pass.
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>>3468521
the upper boob (i'm assuming it's her left/our right) doesn't look attached where it should look attached (the part right of her wrist), the color choices are really nice. regarding other anon and the face, i think the mouth and nose in particular look unrefined and too simple, i would try some more placements and proportions with them and you might find a cuter one. right now i don't care for the snake nose and the very low mouth skewing her face
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I did this, I'm sure there's more than what I'm mentioning but I'm primarily concerned about faces.

I'm not really grasping how to give my faces proper depth, for example: the ear always seems too close to the brow but it doesn't feel that way during construction?

I don't know how to draw female faces, never really grasped that either.

I included me abstracting her head out and doing a rough re-proportioning based on that, but that one doesn't seem quite right either. I also included some quick head drawings to show how I normally do it, because maybe there's errors there I'm not recognizing.

Positioning the mouth and eyes are usually trouble spots for me.
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>>3470174
Also for some context I'll include these studies for me being "at my best", but they still don't feel quite right.
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>>3470178

Not sure how well the ahegao meme face works in a more realistic painterly style. That's a photo study of some twitch thot doing that face is it not?
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>>3470206
I don't really know the source honestly, but yeah it's a photo study. Wish I kept the original images.
I just saw the picture and tried to draw it. Didn't have the best lighting.
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>>3470178

Btw that face to the right really reminds me of early Miles Johnston and Sam Carr in the conceptart.org days
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>>3470174
head on the left looks fine structurally. maybe shift her mouth to the right a bit.
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>>3469833

Thank you. So used to drawing forward-facing noses that way lately I hadn't considered whether it looks good.

I took some of your advice. How's this?
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>>3470250
better!
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wow, why is this general the most skilled one.
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A little pinup. Fire away.
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Finished.
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>>3469091
thats not how you make puffy pussy.
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>>3470250
I'd prefer creepy uncanny Michael Jackson's nose to yet another soulless anime noselet.
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>>3470452
p sure you're the only one who feels that way
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>>3470452
>>3470523

Well, good to hear other opinions.
I'm not wed to the nostrils, still figuring out a style. I do think it looks better now, if a bit more generic. But then, a certain level of conventionality is needed in making attractive faces.
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How do you deal with friends/parents/partners knowing about what you draw? Or if you hide it, how do you manage to do so if you live with any of the above?
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Just completed.
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Anyone ever set out with one scenario in mind only to end up settling on something completely different?

I was trying to do a "two girls gangbanged together" scenario but I settled on "Two girls giving a blowjob side-by-side" scenario because I'm a hack who doesn't want to draw more of men's bodies than I need to.
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>>3471210
It always happens to me when I'm over-planning something. Putting your ideas on paper/canvas ASAP is the best way to avoid it.
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>>3470174
Wait is this actually jamesab? Never thought you'd come here for advice of all places
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>>3470899
her tits are moving but nothing else looks like its moving at all
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>>3470899

Aside from the heavy-ass outline, there's hardly any weight to your lines. There's some texture, but porn is about drawing sensual curves, crevices, and crannies.

For examples, the dude's fingers should be squeezing and pressing into the fatty part of her thigh (and yes there will still be some fat there even though she's slim/athletic).

The girl's hands should be roving in the dude's messy hair, in ecstasy, perhaps, not lightly laying on top of it.

They are definitely having sex, but is it titillating? No.
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>>3471274
>They are definitely having sex, but is it titillating? No.
so like 99.99% of porn?
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>>3471278

Idk what porn you watch anon but I feel sorry for you if you feel this way.
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does this composition feel intimate? i wanted to try drawing something with the advice in >>3465079 in mind.
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>>3471492
the angle between them looks way too big
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>>3471502
im not following. how do you mean? is the top guy leaning back too much?
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>>3471492

Ouch, that looks like an uncomfortable angle for the penis. I think you could push the perspective more so it looks like a wide angle lense. The ass and hand/thigh should be bigger in relation to the upper body etc.
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>>3471506
okay i think i get it now. the top is supposed to be vertical, like in pic related. i'm guessing i accidentally made him look like he's reclined.

i did a quick scale up of the lower portion of the image to test the wide angle tip. looks way more intimate. thanks anon.
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>>3471261

Yeah it's actually me. I figured people would give it to me the straightest here. Comm W.I.P, workspace and files attached for proof.
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>>3471269
On another layer, I will start adding some motion lines to give it a feel for the warrior moving the girl up and down as she gyrates her hips. Any good references or hentai artists who utilize movement well?

>>3471274
I will apply the corrections when I get back. Good points on the fingers pressing into the fatty part of her thigh, as well as the hand. I don't see the latter in hentai, or even much porn.

Another thing I am considering as I prepare for the coloring is to intensify the kiss. Changing it from a smooch to a intimate French kiss.
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>>3466680

My brain hurts looking at this.
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>>3471802

Jesus anon... That's the least of your problems.
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>>3471840
go on please
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>>3471840
anon i'm drying up over here
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>>3471802
both these read fine to me. what's the issue?
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What kind of dicks do people like?
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>>3471918
Fat ones. The have to be bigger in the mid section and the head smaller than the mid section. And big ofcourse. Also, they should start out slightly thinner at the beginning than in the middle, dicks that get thinner the further out look weird
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>>3471923
Uncut or cut? And I thought dicks with the thin heads and shaped liked bananas were always the thickest and longest?
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>>3471964
uncut but uncut so that it basically looks cut when erect. And yeah, big and thick banana dicks are the way to go
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>>3471897
i guess i just get paranoid about my stuff, but then i see an artist draw a squiggle and i find it immediately recognizable as what they meant it to be so maybe i just need to stop underestimating how easily people's brains can parse a picture
on the other hand maybe i should start thumbnailing
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>>3471772
shouldn't anal be more expensive? feels like a premium service to me
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>>3471772
The ass pussy thigh area, looks fucking horrible. Very off putting to me. You should look into that
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do we have to wait until the thread dies before making a new one? is that a rule on ic?
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>>3465920
You, I like you

When I first started drawing hentai I didn't get any attention, and like the desperate kid I was I started pandering to more and more extreme fetishes in order to get noticed on 4chan. It progressed to noncon loli gore (so glad I was too dumb to realise posting nudes to /b/ would have got me a faster fanbase kek). I was consuming other violent pornography to 'better my work'. I had no experience of irl sex at this time.

Obviously the kind of people that I started talking to online were total reprobates. I ended up with fucked up ideas of what was normal and without saying too much, when I finally started having sex it was a total mess. I also got doxxed by a 'fan' because suprise surprise, some people that like violent hentai are unhinged even if they like to pretend it's all ~freedom of expression~.
I got my life together and got busy enough that I wasn't reading rapey hentai anymore and over time I realised I didn't want to inflict pain even on 2D characters and I now only draw consensual acts. Commissions dwindled so I dropped my hentai pseudonym altogether, I don't care because money from a McJob feels better than money from torturing imaginary lolis and now I can make art in my spare time that makes me feel good.

tl;dr bad porn makes you bad inside
>inb5 no1 curr post ur work troll
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Does this qualify as porn?
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>>3472121
My thought process was, it's all ridiculously low priced, with lower-priced services being what she'd prefer to do.

>>3472143
I had the toughest time with that, cobbling it together from poses that weren't exact. Thanks, I'll try to figure something out.
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>>3472172
nope
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>>3472148
That happens when you go into that with literally zero experience in real life and are too young.
You immersed yourself too much into this and it became part of you. If you keep a normal relationship towards your ideas of sex and eroticism and your fetishes, then drawing degenerate stuff isn't really taxing on your mental health like you described. And yes there are fucked up people into that shit, but I BET that there are people just as bad into MyLittlePony, the stark opposit of torture porn, maybe even more than that are this bad.
The problem isnt the fetish, its just that for people to get into that fetish, they often have to have spend a lot of time alone and on the internet, often neglecting reallife etc etc. Thats not to say that all of them are like that. And I feel for your shitty experiences but your singular personal experience, doesnt make the statement "porn makes you bad inside" true.
What happened to you would be like someone who knows about the casual edm one can hear on the radio, forcing oneself into full on speedcore.
tl;dr The idea of something that which you have no experience on, can easily be corrupted and warped. Investing yourself too much at a young age into the depraved things of other people is unhealthy.
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>>3472239
Thank you for your well-considered response, I honestly wasn't expecting that.
I can see what you mean and I agree that there are many people that can compartmentalise just fine and that you find bad people into 'normal' porn, but to me I still personally feel that putting out 'bad stuff' into the world, even if that's just simulation of bad stuff by things happening to an imaginary person, weighs on my conscience. Partly because by producing it I'm a part of the supply chain that goes on to brainwash someone like younger me into having a really warped idea of what irl sex is.
>The problem isnt the fetish, its just that for people to get into that fetish, they often have to have spend a lot of time alone and on the internet, often neglecting reallife etc etc.
Yeah you hit the nail on the hammer there, thank you for putting it into words. I just wish more positive hentai was made outside of that sexposi tumblr type scene so that is wasn't the default, it's easy to make even super rough stuff seem consensual if you make the effort.
Hope you have a nice night drawing porn anon, whatever your flavour is.
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>>3472326
The "nice" porn you draw is going to corrupt someone too.
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Used better refs. Does this look fucky, anyone?
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It still look too flat, but I don't want glossy skin rendering. Advice?
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>>3472642
bloog?
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how do you finish something?
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>>3472056
It would look really nice if you REMOVE THAT RETARDED HUMAN WIG.
Also, check your proportions consistency,
>>3471802 here on the left he has that massive hyper-stylized paw-arm, while on other picture it looks closer to human proportions.
Head also looks like it's shape varies depending on angle. Fuck, even his eyes color changed when he dressed up as maid.
If you wanna go full OC-fag, you better keep your little furry slut 100% recognizable across all of your works.
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>>3472436
using the word "retarded" is gonna put some people off. nice abs.
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>>3472769
Are you one of those people
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>>3472783
sure
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someone make a new thread pls
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>>3472930
>>3472959
>>3472959
>>3472959
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>>3472960
arigatoooooooooo anon-samaaaaaaaaa
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>>3467150
the lack of arms made me wheeze




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