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>"Commissions are finally open!"
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>>3470549
>Please buy a fucking commission I'll draw furry futa inflation
>Please mom share my post announcing that commissions are open because literally no one on my friends list will and I don't have any followers
>I AM TAKING REQUESTS AND I WILL DRAW FOR FREE PLEASE JUST LOOK AT ME
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>>3470559
I don't understand how people on deviantart do 3$ commissions and still argue about the price
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>>3470566
Because they are stupid kids and don't know any better. Also it's low quality art at those prices. Supply and demand.
No demand for shitty art and way too much supply --> basically worth nothing.
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>tfw no one buys commissions
>keep getting messages asking if I do requests
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>>3470549
>tfw no commission info or begging anywhere
>i get average 3 commission messages every time i post something new
>all of them get scared away by the price
f-feels good man
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>>3471535
Lel, I'm on no social media except 4chan, so luckily I don't have to deal with this kind of stuff.
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>>3471551
how much you asking for bud
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>>3471564
portraits start at $100. I have gotten a few people who have gone through with it, but they're 1% of all the requests I get. The average DAfag expects everything to be under $30
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>>3471551
yeah I had the same thing happening.
Don't pussy out and lower yourselves out,then we all suffer.

I've put my rates up on my nsfw tumblr and still people send me emails but then stop replying for some reason.I don't get it.
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>dude asked me about commissions
>I list my prices
>no response from him
>dude says that he'd like to commission something from me
>never contacts me again
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>>3471570
you on deviantart? try instagram maybe, deviant's only support females really, since it's the weird old guys with money,

I don't know your level, but 100$ doesn't sound too bad. Most will expect 50$ for a portrait, so you might want to compare with others similar to your level.
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>>3471595
>deviant's only support females really
i am
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>>3471590
>>3471551
>>3471571

Kek, glad to hear others regularly have this happen to them too. There was a point where I was wondering if the DA notification system might be bugged or something and that they never get my replies when I send them my rates and they go radio silent afterwards.
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>>3471610
me too
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I'll never understand why people would rather randomly message me about comms when I've never even said they're open or whatever.
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>>3470549
>get requests for commissions when theyre not open
>get jack shit when i open them
why
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>>3471677
I think some people say stuff along the lines of 'message me when they're open'
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>>3471570
Come on anon how much is your work really worth. 100 bucks for a shit drawing only crazy people would pay for it.
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>>3471677
idk some just hope to be put in your dashboard, so in case you answer their question publicly, they can be seen.
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>>3471689
I used to do shit cute pets for people at like 80 to 130 USD (I was told to fuck off to /beg/ from /a/ of all places and the only thing I had going was great colour theory) and people were queuing at my inbox daily until my autismo asian parents intervened. You never know. So anon's comms probably are not unreasonable.
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>>3471689
i work freelance, so i know how it's worth. they just don't expect the prices. this is from today.
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>>3471716
not that anon, but that's rather subjective, and highly dependent on the person. If you post a typical work of yours, can be a draft or whatever, we can give you a realistic estimate if you like.
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>>3471706
>>3471716
None of these replies show me how good your art is. Just shows me how right I am about your art being shitty that you want to hide it. Nice try anon.
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>>3471535
I don't even get messages. I ADVERTISE FREE REQUESTS and get zero engagement. I'm gonna have to start getting a little more creative
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>>3471753
that first reply wasn't me :^)
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>>3471764
Your art is still shit:^)
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>>3471753
that's not how bait 0/10
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>>3471757
just throw in some nudes, people are more interested in the artist than the art
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>>3471807
I am a man, a scrawny one at that, and my face is too masculine to pass for a sissy or trap
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>>3470549
be confident, overprice your shit, forget shame if you really want to make it, develop gimmicks and gay shit like that
Art and society overall nowadays is all about overselling your persona, no one gives a shit about honest work and modesty anymore
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Furry and similarly niche porn can easily net you $150-$200 for a commission that takes about 2-3 hours to finish. That's $300-$400 for 4-6 hours of work in a day. Pretty damn good desu senpai.

You're doing it wrong if you don't have atleast one foot in the smut pie.
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>>3471809
you're acting like there isn't a niche for bara
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>>3471590
>get comission request
>offer thumbnails for free
>"Wow those are sweet ill get back to you"
>never does.
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>>3471888
I can barely improve my current art style as it is, it'll go to shit if I deviate to study animal/anthro anatomy.

Plus if I ever get popular, the style alone will reveal who I am. what do?
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>>3471757
Literally just go to any drawthread and say you'll do requests, 100% guaranteed replies.
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>>3471553
People beg for requests on 4chan all the time
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>>3472145
Lesson learned. Don't offer free thumbnails. I did some logo designs for a client at work and didn't press too hard for a deposit, because he was pretty set on ordering labels (or so I thought). Gave him pricing for the labels and he fucked off. Designed a logo for free pretty much. Faggot didn't get the vector, but still. Don't do shit for free.
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>>3470549
this reminds me of
>"LMAO WHO DID THIS"
>"CREDIT TO THE ARTIST"
>"DM ME FOR CREDIT"
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actually I never knew what price to put in commission, can you fill it with what you think it would cost these different drawings?
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you dont put prices on the shit you draw, the people put a price on you.
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>>3472294
as an anime weeaaboo artist I end up
doing drawing till the thighs all the time.

I feel bad if I charge for that more..
I ven paint sketches. I don't want to scam people.
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>>3472261
The point of doing free requests is to build an audience and a base of followers. Not really helpful on an anonymous image board, and no offense, but you guys are the last ones I want following me. Well not the last. I’m sure you can guess the last.
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>>3472145
start offering half thumbnails
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>>3471809
Just draw fanart or put your free requests in a fandom tag. You'll be flooded with please draw everything in ten seconds flat.
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>>3472294
Demand creates prices. You can't just say this artwork costs xx. There's too many factors to take into account. Especially the popularity of the artist.
Quality of art is just not enough to measure the value of an artwork.
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>>3472164
Just accwpt that you're ngmi and embrace your shitty character.
Problem solved
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>>3472263
And noone gets anything except cringy shit from teenage anime/furry artists.
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>>3472622
well this is an anime site after all.
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>>3470549
> Guy on discord debates on whether or not to spend money on porn commissions or gacha games
It's just funny to me.
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How the hell can you become comfortable enough to do commissions? I am fairly good but I still feel like my work isn't professional enough or that I could fulfill the expectations of my client.
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>>3472754
You're good enough if people ask for requests or comms. People aren't going to ask if they're not interested.
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>>3472754
Do enough Loomis and you'll be ready for anything.
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>>3471629
>>3471610
LONDON
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>>3472341
>I’m sure you can guess the last
Your mom?
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>>3470566

This is always true: Your customers get easier to deal with the more they pay. Charge more.

Someone who wants a 3 dollar commission is incredibly price sensitive.

THEY ARE BAD CUSTOMERS.

They probably have no money for repeat business, don't know anyone working in the art industry (if they did it'd revolt at the conscious to demand a 3 dollar commission) and is the kind of person that'd seek out a 3 dollar price tag, because that's a price that little signals poor quality, since real artists value their time and don't work for sub-minimum-wage.

Someone paying 40 bucks, by comparison, has access to big-boy money.

THEY ARE GOOD CUSTOMERS.

They are willing to pay for what they perceive as quality, probably can afford repeat business, probably already scoped you out and know what you're capable of and what they can expect in terms of quality, and are an adult who is aware they are using their disposable income to get art made and to support the art community.

You want 40 dollar customers, 3 dollar customers are nuclear waste.
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>>3473314
>40 bucks
>big customers
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>>3473329

>He doesn't know about the time value of money
>He's implying I called them big customers, rather than good customers

40 is your low tier if you're savvy. It's what I'd recommend charging for something you can make in about 30 minutes.

If you can get 25 such commissions a month (and depending on who you are and what you draw, at 40 you'll have as much work as you're willing to take) that's 12 hours of work, probably 4 hours of communication time and dealing with bullshit, and will net you 1,000 bucks, which would be a 62.5 dollar/hr salary for your art time.

This is doable while you maintain a separate full time job, and together would be lifechanging money for most people, so get off your high horse, frogposter.
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>>3472618

I understand, but in any case if you do the last in 5 min, even this is better than the first one, if this person charges this full body drawing at only $3, even the client will feel that he is not supporting him at all, I understand the factors but this is hypothetical, it is only to have a reference on how much people would be willing to pay or sell this different skill levels
it is not necessary to make a geographical, political, financial and popularity statistics of someone just to have a reference of how much someone could place the price of what they do
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>>3473337
Not him, but 40 bucks is quite literally nothing. I wouldn't take a shit for that kind of money.
Real numbers are $500+ for almost always good customers, $100+ for generally good customers, and $100- for the no-go zone.

>If you can get 25 such commissions a month
This NEVER happens. And if it does and you charged 40 bucks for each piece you just fucked up big time because some card game company just managed to lowball you hardcore.
$100 is the bare minimum for serious work and that is already pretty fucking low, but you can still find it for entry level batch jobs (like the 25 a month you mentioned).
Noah Bradley has talked in the past about how when he was starting he did 37 $100 commissions for a less known card game in a month because he was still starting out in the industry and couldn't find better paying jobs.

Never go below $100. Ever.
If you don't think your work is worth even that, then you don't belong in commissioning yet.
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>>3470549
GOD you people are fucking salty. I shouldn't have come back. lasted a whole week this time.
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>>3475336

I'm not saying it's a great deal, but I'm being realistic, you're on /ic/.

Most people here are in the first 3-18 months of their art career and have no prior experience. People who are on track to be creating serious work tend not to hang out here very long, or at least, not publicly.

Commissions from established firms and companies aren't going to pay 100 bucks to these early career hobbyists. The commissioners who would pay within their skill level are largely going to be hobbyists, fandoms, and people who want cheap smut.

In these groups, 40 dollars is serious pocket change, and a customer base exists willing to pay that, and it's MUCH better than the 3 dollar price tag customers he proposed. I'm trying to raise his horizons to levels he can reach, rather than aspirational levels.
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>>3473337
fyi full page colour illustrations for prominent websites and magazines is 1-2 thousand dollars
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>>3475351

Thanks for the pricing tip, but I'm gonna stand by "If you're an artist on /ic/, falmost certainly forget about prominent websites and magazines
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>>3475352
You'd be surprised by how many full fledged professionals visit this place.
The people who post work are more leaning towards the beg tier usually, but I know first hand there's quite a few professionals and semi-professionals actively lurking and posting advice here.
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>>3475361
T. Crab




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