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>What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>Where do I go to learn to draw Anime?
Read the sticky. ctrl+f artbooks thread. Consult suicide to become Japanese in your next life.
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>Community Resources
Hitokaku Index
>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #creative
>yoshikadu2011 (youtube, streams daily)
FellowBro's Book Collection
>http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
Tutorial & Reference Collection
>http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
Japanese Tutorials & Documentary
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317 (0033)
>http://iradukai.com/
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdt2GaZVIpY [Embed] (dead, update whenever I get to it)
References
>http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos2.html
>http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
>http://senshistock.com/sketch/

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Keep up the great work. Awesome moves. Real proud of you all.
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Doing a drawing of Tracer from Overwatch, I'm wondering if this pose is too stiff, or the proportions are too off (I'm giving her long legs and big feet). I'm thinking of going really stylistic with this one. Crits so far?
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>>3504619
why would you expect anyone to critique something you did in 5 minutes
why would you even post it
just stay in /beg/ you aren't ready
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>>3504619
Anon you are getting feedback in /beg/ already also fucking resize your images desu...

>>3504621
c-can I come here?
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Hi
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Building a block of color from nothing is harder than i thought.
Gonna start detailing now.
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>>3504621
Dude, it's a WIP sketch of the pose, chill out

>>3504623
People crosspost this shit all the time, again, chill out
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>>3504578
;)
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>>3504630
isn't the distance shoulders to boobs to large? they look like they're shrugging
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>>3504619
>5000x5000
fuck you

you're using too many straight lines which is conveying speed, but not motion. it looks more like a hood ornament than a figure running. also try to think about every line before you lay it down which will reduce chicken scratching and improve your process
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>>3504624
lmao
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>>3504623
left figure better be niea BITCH
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>>3504652
fuck i meant right. i am mentally impaired. i love your art though. please find it in your heart to forgive me
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>>3504654
it is! but she seems a little... off?
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>>3504679
the torso is just a mess, doesnt seem like you have a good grasp on anatomy or forms in 3d space
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>>3504696
wtf
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>>3504696
that's her shirt anon...

I guess it's my fault since it's still a sketchb
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>>3504702
oh thank god, missing some crucial lines there
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Done with line work :^)
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>>3504619
It's bad. You might as well just trace at this point. No pun intended.
>>3504624
This is somehow worse than the shitty tracer gesture. Can you honestly look at this and say it's sexy? It's not.
>>3504696
>redlining stylization
Pelvis area doesn't work like that. Blind leading the blind.
>>3504827
>>>/beg/

thread off to a great start
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>>3504838
>Everyone got a (you) but me.
I feel very sad.
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>>3504625
uhm...ganbaru zo
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>>3504842
Hi
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>>3504838
yeah you're right it has a lot of errors, i just corrected the hand's perspective and ed's feet were a mess. also fixed her neck which was a bit too high.
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>>3504838

>thread off to a great start


Post your work

Wait... you are a crab, you are never going to post your own work...

Pathetic.
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>>3504838
actually the pelvis does work like that, post work
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>>3504864
>>3504865

I agree, >>3504838 post your work
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>>3504861
I like this a lot! Their expressions and crossed-leg poses look pretty solid to me.
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>>3504838
Post your work anon, you sound really good.
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>>3504871
>>3504865
It does not. End of discussion on it.
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>ITT we spot the butthurt limp dick hugbox DA tards
>>3504864
>>3504865
>>3504871
>>3504899
You have to go back.
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>>3504607
Finished this, a piece of Pearl fanart from Splatoon 2. I hope that fanart is okay here(I haven't visited /ic/ in a hot minute so I'm a bit rusty on the generals)
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>>3504908
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>>3504913
kek
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>>3504913
What exactly is most glaringly wrong with this pic? I wanted to do another one, but if there is some serious errors, I'd like to to better next time. Can you point them out, please?
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Post your work used to mean can i see your work to see your level and help each other learn.
Now it just a way to shit on someone as well as spotting crabs that don't draw so they don't have works and only dragging people down.
I miss old /ic/
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>>3504919
Line quality sux for one thing.
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>>3504929
Youre not wrong on that one. Advice on how to get more appealing lines? They did look too mechanical to me when I was working on it
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>>3504942
Why is she blushing? A swimsuit is nothing to be embarrassed about.
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>>3504931
>>3504919
Learn how to do proper line weight. It looks inconsistent on your piece. That combined with the mediocre shading.
This would look great if the lines and shading were done well. You gotta work on that
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>Upload drawing to pixiv
>take a piss
>Multiple people have liked and bookmarked your drawing

I know it sucks and its cause I was pandering but this is a first for me and I'm so happy.
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>>3504842
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>>3504950
Let's go ahead and fix that. Post your work.
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>>3504931
>google/YT
>how to appealing line weigth

Anon, use common sense, we can help you, but being this big of a cunt, waiting to be spoonfeeded, makes me lose hope every time I take a look at /alt/. you're not even trying ffs
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>>3504950
>Post work on Pixiv, tumblr, DA
>No one even look at it
How the fuck can you guys get so many? I been doing it for 2 years now and i still can't get past 100 likes.
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>>3504954
draw fanart and properly tag your submissions with weeb tags
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Another update on the thing

>>3504954
>post stuff i work hard on
>3 likes in 24 hours
>post shit i spent 2 minutes on
>18 likes in the first hour
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>>3504958
Tags pretty much. Put a fetish tag and see the numbers fly even if you're drawing stick figure shit.
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>>3504955
>>3504960
Speaking of tags, what kind of tags are you guys using?
Also how do you guys tag on Pixiv? Since i can't speak nip i have to search japanese words and then copy paste it.
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>>3504947
>>3504953
I certainly will work on my linework, thank you for your crits! I hope the next one looks better!
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>>3504961
I do the same, but to be honest I already gave up on pixiv it's too much work and I get more response in tumblr, even if little
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>>3504961
I just know the tags to use because I speak basic nip. My only trouble is when to use kanji and when to use hiragana because they're so inconsistent and sometimes it's both.
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>>3504962
follow other splat artists you like and study how they draw their stuff. Try to replicate and use this new knowledge on your next artwork

>>3504961
I just use the series' name, characters' name, and if there's a certain theme on your art (r-18, landscape, design etc). Don't forget to put both the japanese and english equivalent of the tag so both eng and jap audience will see it.
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>>3504902

Nobody cares how "hard" your critiques could be, is like being called a faggot on /b/, nobody take it seriously. People want to see your work to know how qualified your are to make such "critics".

Now post your work, or maybe you are the one who is worried about the hard critics...
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>>3504973
just move on and work on your next piece you baby. You got too worked up over someone's pelvis
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where my niggas at? any wips?
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>>3504985
What? Who??
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>>3504956
the jacked and the arms have no form, pretty apealling tho
Also can't tell if its a dude or a chick with a skirt
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>>3504625
The red and the green dont' match the ambient (not the red bg)
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>>3504979

>baby

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag
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>>3504995
Really? Her eyes supposed to be green a hint of yellow.
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>>3504991
>no form

How do you mean?

It's a girl in leather shorts, she's supposed to be an anthropomorphic representation of ink. The androgyny is intended, the skirt is not. Hadn't even noticed it looked like one but yeah you're right, thanks.
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>>3505011
Never mind, I think get what you mean. I didn't add shadows, contours, etc. to give it depth. Yeah should probably start doing that.
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>>3504902
Post your work anon, come on.
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>>3505003
not same anon but u could go for greyish red i think it will work out fine
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WHERRR MY NIGGGIASS AT
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>>3504865
>>3504871
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>>3505045
>dunning-krugers who think people have to be "good enough" to give them (free) critique
Reminder kids: /beg/gars can't be choosers

>>3504628
> it's a WIP sketch of the pose
you do not need help with something so basic. If you do, you're in the wrong thread
>People crosspost this shit all the time
and people beg anons to post work all the time.; don't do stupid shit just because everyone else is doing it
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>>3505021
You can show from in a lot of ways, but leave shadows as a last thing, more so when you have such a line dependent "style"
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>>3505246
Post your work anon.
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>>3505246
I agree, but you're being an acoustic guitar as well, people get mad about the "state of /thread" " because of shit art, of people that clearly have their own contention thread, and still come here to waste everyone's time, like the Tracer retard who fuckin posts that 38 seconds figure in every fucking thread
Every side is fucking wrong, but it could be solved if crabs stayed crabing in the sea
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>>3505286
>>3505246
just ignore the pyw memers
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>>3505286
>I agree, but you're being an acoustic guitar as well
>contention thread
>crabing in the sea
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>>3505246
Crab
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>>3505286
>acoustic guitar
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wip
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>>3505480
looking comfy anon, are you the same anon from the cats?
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>>3505480
Pretty cool. I think a bit extra form on the smoke might be nice? Just a few overlapping lines. But looks nice.
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>>3505480
are u the mobile game artist anon?
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>>3505246

He is not going to post his work he sucks, I've seen him in other threads he just fucks with everyone but don't draw much. Just ignore him and post more of your art, anons. Don't waste your time on someone who is beg tier, ignore him or the thread is going to be even more derailed
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>>3504960
it's the same tags anon, but like, one took me about 16 hours to finish the other was a compilation of doodles, it's like they don't like quality (and I'm not implying I can do quality work)
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>>3505566
Sometimes more refined work just makes it suck.
For example I suck at coloring, takes me a fuckton of time I I decide to do it, and the end result is it looks worse.
Effort doesnt mean it looks good.
Plus personally I have a fetish for badly drawn ms paint porn.
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>>3505539
Thank you for the critique, I will fix that on the clean up
>>3505546
I'm not sure.. what do you mean?
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>>3505566
You know how sometime sketch look better than your finished work? Sketch let people imagine easier so in a sense, it's more beautiful.
That problem going to disappear the more you learn how to draw better though.
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>>3505575
I'd never done color or digital until about a month ago, my initial attempts were abhorrent, but I'm starting to get used to it and seeing huge gains.

>>3505588
I agree with what you say, but I honestly feel I'm close or past that point already. and the stuff I'm talking about isn't really a sketch, it's colored and somewhat refined too.

I'm not going on a rant either, it's just a weird trend I'm noticing, works get response too, but low quality compilations still get much faster responses, it's absurd, almost feels like cheating. I feel it's just a quantity/quality thing.
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>>3505575
it sucks because you don't know how to do it and youre doing guesswork to get to a decent result. if you know how to do it from the beginning it wont look like shit. doing masterpieces when you should be doing studies.
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>>3505480
love it!
I want to turn this into a cute 3d art
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>>3505618
Well I mean I know it sucks, and I'm working on it.
My point was however that effort != results. Putting effort in when you suck just results in more suck.
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>>3505639
absolutely true and well put!
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>>3505564
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person!
how delusional do you have to be
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>>3505706
There's only like 10 people on /ic/, chances are he's right
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>>3504106
at first I thought you were wrong, but you're absolutely right, anon! thank you so much, I'm sorry about the late response. hopefully you'll see this ;;
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Thought I'd try my brush pen that was lying around, only to remember that it's nearly over.
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pure nun with lewd body
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Do I need to be extremely good at realism in order to do good stylized art?
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>>3506084
>extremely good
not really
but considering the same fundamentals and basic ideas apply to both fundamentals and realism even if you completely avoided realism and somehow became good, your abilities would transfer to good realism because its the exact same things.
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I wanna learn some ink

any one know how to use those drawing sticks? I can't ever get the smaller side to work, so I end up using the thick blobby side
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>>3506088
Well I'm still learning realism because you need to know the rules to break them and all that, I just don't know if I've got what it takes to become like those super amazing guys who do realism, I always implement a bit of stylization in the practice itself. I was wondering if that's still good.
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>>3506054
now thats a woman in my book
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>>3505833
are you that faggot ass gang gang? because your shit sucks ass, and you draw the same oc shit over and over.
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>>3506161
If you become super good at stylization you need the same skills as realism. You're not going to become super good at style or anime shit if you are incapable of doing realism.
You can become passable to plebs but they share the same skillset.

Its not that realism is what makes you good, its that the skills you need are the same ones you see in realism, and realism also gives you the undeniable truth and perfect comparison. You don't need to check if it looks good when doing realism, you have undeniable proof you did good or bad. And when you're learning fundamentals having this undeniable evidence is important.
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>>3506178

Post your work
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>>3506054
Saved to my fap folder. Thanks Magister
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>>3504950
Post link
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>>3506217
Sinful.
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>>3506054
>lewd body
>Its literally just cancerous tumors on her chest
they're not even shapely or appealing. what were you going for here?
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>>3506178
Who?
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>>3506281
Lolicon detected
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>>3506300
There's appealing boobs, and gigantic cancer fat on her chest. Just making them bigger isn't how you make thing sexy.
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>>3506306
shorten that foot, and maybe the leg too. I'm not sure if its just because the awkward foot, but her right leg looks hella long
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>>3506306
those nipples?
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>>3506305
Cowtits are sexy what are you talking about
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>>3506054
This is not sexy.
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>>3506054
Where's the dick??
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>>3506176
don't you mean your HOLY book?
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>>3506309
Thanks. I had not realized that until your post

>>3506312
idk what so off about them. Maybe this is better?
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>>3506638
her boobs are sagging way more than they should be, nipples shouldn't be that low unless she's 80.
In generally they just look too saggy
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>>3506641
Should not nipples be one head below the chin?

Also she is getting suspended
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>>3506644
I'm around family so can't go googling for porn, but nipples are much closer to the center of the breasts, and boobs don't rotate on your chest because you're suspended, the base would rise which is covered in your drawing, but the actual mass doesn't rotate downward which your image kind of does.
Go search for some boobs for proper nipple positioning. Don't use static length like 1 head for details like this because it is dependent on where the breasts themselves are rather than height from the head.
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>>3506644
she doesn't look suspended. and the boobs dont look glaringly wrong they just look saggy
the ribcage does seem to beopposing the belly and the crotch....her left arm looks odd too
its like you wanted to do a perspective from above but have no clue how
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>>3506306
>>3506638
Really loving the linework and the subtle shading, but I feel like her boobs are hanging off her ribcage at a weird angle.
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thoughts so far?
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>>3506665
Neat. Got any more?
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Can i get a redline or some feedback on this pose?

It's a bit tricky and I can't tell if I got it right
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>>3506755
What are you going for? If its riding the broom dont have legs dangling down straight. Or just in general dont have th le legs dangling down. Even if they're terrified and it's their first time flying youd be holding on for dear life.
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>>3506768
I'm going for she's just resting on it, relaxed, the legs are supposed to be crossed together
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>>3506770
Maybe drop 1 of the arms and use the other as a head cushion? It doesnt look like a very relaxed pose imo, you want something more draping.

I could be wrong but it's a little hard to tell what you're going for. But grasping so hard with both hands takes away from that relaxed feel.
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>>3506665
I dig it. Makes me want to pick up drawing for 6th time.
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>>3506773
this is what I did, I feel it has to be holding with both hands, and she's looking to a side, there will be some city scenery down
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>>3506673
kind of
>>3506777
just do it
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>>3506791
posting final revision, i think I'll be going for this
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h-hey guys
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>>3506054
I can imagine how wierd the chlotes would look if they weren't being wear
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>>3506638
Fix those nippers and that hand/arm
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Super Patriot and Hiroshia Hot Dog are #1 in the world, having six star matches in every bingo hall in Japan.
This is the first time I've ever doodled anything in a "japanese cartoon/comic" style with no regard for proportion or accurac, so I have no idea what I am doing really. It was a lot of fun to just grab a couple of pencils and make it up as I went along.
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>>3506844
it looks like both feets big toes are on the same side. you should check that
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>>3507021
best in the thread so far
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guess who saved over their entire psd file after hours of painstaking perspective and grid work
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>>3507005
Fuck... back to >>>/beg/ with me
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how is the proportion? I feel like the face is a little too wide, not sure. I really don't want to fix things after i polish it so i better fix it now.
Also Paint SAI suck dick, i miss CSP.
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>>3507021
will it improve the silhouette or not?
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>>3507021
How does he hear if there no ear holes?
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>>3506844
I give up to be ache, at least her feet are the right fucking way now
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>>3507163
Her left foot/leg are fucked, try the pose yourself, Anon
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>>3507098
She's a loli, looks ok to me
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>>3507023
Make the sword the same angle as her leg, makes me kinda uncomfortable
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>>3507163
yeah her leg was wrong, I tried doing it on other angles and pic related is what I'm using for the feet orientation, thank you for the help but I think I'll give it up here and move on.
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>>3506054
Best thing in thread so far

Blog?
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>>3507023
Can you tell me where to get that brush?

Preferably for PS
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just finished this turd
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How's this coming out?
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>>3506306
Those nipples are fucked m8
Nips should only be hanging at that angle if the breasts are sagging or you're drawing an orangutan.
What the hell are you even thinking man
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>>3506912
>Care Bear except it's a rabbit and it has an MLP mane and tail
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>>3506912
I have no idea why, but this gives off very strong inflatobear vibes
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How would you go about coloring and finishing something like this? I feel completely lost when it comes to finishing things and I desperately need to.
>>3506665
>>3506812
So loose, so energetic. I fucking love it.
>>3507098
If you wouldn't mind sharing, are you coloring this all on one layer or several? If you're using multiple layers, are you using any layer blending modes?
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>>3507458
flat
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>>3507692
I just open a layer for base paint then another one for shading. Literally just do it, if it doesn't come out good you'd have at least finished it
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>>3507703
Thanks for the info. About the picture I didn't really word it right. I wanted to get opinions about the style of finish. Cel shaded, painterly, (attempted) smooth realistic airbrush, keep the lineart or get rid of it, that kind of thing.
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>>3507692
Oh i paint everything on 1 layer, only use another layer with overlay mode if i want to change the tone down the line.
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>>3507706
in that case I don't think I'm qualified to tell you what to do, I do cel shading because it fits my style and because it's my comfort zone :^), the lineart is cute, you could totally make things work with it
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>>3507718
Oh okay, interesting. I never thought about using overlay like that.
>>3507721
Well thanks anyway. I guess I can try to feel my way through it again but I feel another incomplete sketch incoming.
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>>3507694
What can I do to fix that?
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>>3507761
give the background a lighter tone that will make it clear it's in the distance, the orange pops out too much
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>>3506665
>>3507098
i like these alot
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>>3507706
>>3507692
just slap some base color underneath it. Put some gradient if you want like pic related. Focus on polishing the lineart for the finished piece
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>>3506665
>>3506812
>>3507823
blog sir?
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>>3507811
Awesome, I'll met around with the tones then. Thank you! :)
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>>3507883
Actually, I'm a girl.
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none of the colors are permanent. trying to have some fun with pixel art type stuff
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still trying my way around perspective
probably gotta get looking into 2 and 3 point at some point
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>>3508219
very cute anon, is that water below her legs? or am I reading it wrong?
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>>3508108
Underage
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>>3508108
Don't assume my gender
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>>3508425
thank you
and yeah its supposed to be water, trying to play around with different surfaces rn
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>>3508459
Do you happen to do art for a living?
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>>3508480
Yes
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>>3508533
That's really cool, I'd press for more details but just knowing that it's possible in the first place gives me hope. Cheers!
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>>3507881
How do people even come up with stuff like this? It looks so interesting but it seems so random at the same time. Is she actually standing on anything or floating? What's up with the random TV and sink and knives? And what made the artist decide to color it flat like that?
I was always told style develops naturally over time but the more I look at other people's art the more it seems like they made conscious decisions to develop theirs and I can't seem to decide what I want my stuff to look like.
Anyway sorry for the tldr and thanks for the suggestion. I saw a nice cel-shaded picture on twitter and I think I'm going to try emulating that style.
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>>3508629
doodling
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>>3507251
twitter.com/magister_jp
twitter.com/magister_en
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What did I fuck up? I'm sure something about her face and head is screwed but I can't identify it
I used ref for the pose but changed some of the proportions so that also might be it
Also, how do I make the lines less pixelated? I'm new to digital art, I think antialiasing is on to some degree in the tools though?
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tried drawing in sinix his style, any feedback?
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>>3508941
well it looks like sinix's stuff that's for sure
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>>3507692
I tried to explain (at least how I do it) here
>>3504370 , idk it helps.

>>3507883
yaow12.tumblr.com im >>3506665 and >>3506812

>>3508629
You just described it how it works tho, style develops naturally over time, you pick up mostly on things you like and then try to emulate/make them show on your own work as you polish what you know, strengthen your core values and keep learning.

As for the colors in this drawing it's actually kind of simple, a gradient from top to bottom of red with the most basic complementary colors of all time, red and blue lol.
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>>3508426
Worked on them a bit more
a few video game characters for my own game
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>>3508893
>changed some of the proportions
well there's your problem right there, the ref was probably an actual human with human proportions.

Honestly step back for one second, look at the size of that head compared to the body compared to the legs, and tell me you think this looks like a human.

What's the point in a ref if you don't measure?
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How the fuck does one draw beards?
I need to give this guy a beard, an unkept one or just stubble, but I can't do it without it looking like a hobo
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>>3509183

there's lots of beard styles but the easiest way to draw them is to keep your lines as loose and fast as possible, you dont wanna be drawing on the same spot for too long.
1 and 2 are the kind of lines you wanna use to kinda form the mass of the beard.

for stubble fill the part thats supposed to be stubble with a toothbrush kind of brush and then short lines like 3-4, hair grows faster on the moustache and chin area
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>>3509183
That's a girl
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>>3509183
Children don't have beard
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>>3509278
Thank you for these tips they're very helpful! I'll try what you said!

>>3509285
>>3509294
I know, but he came out cute didn't he. I just can't (don't want to) into guys
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>>3504623
is that ed i see?
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>>3509357
but I can't get myself to finish coloring, such a chore ;_;
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>>3506644
Whenever your arms are being held up, like over your head, your boobs don't sag. They're actually a bit perkier. The one on her left doesn't look too bad, but the nipple on her right breast should probably be up a little more.

t. boob-haver
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Any (you)s on the colors and composition?
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>>3509386
Trying to figure out how that bar attaches.
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>>3509396
I fucking knew I forgot something!
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which body do yall prefer?
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>>3509183
what I gave him in the end desu kill me already
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>>3509407
there's a massive fat roll on the right character which makes no sense.

Left.
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>>3509412
shit that was completely unintentional, now I can't unsee it
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decided to go with the right.. does she have potential anons?
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>>3504607
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdt2GaZVIpY [Embed] (dead, update whenever I get to it)
That's the dejieshi no bunpou series right?
I finally finished downloading the torrent over like 2 months from whoever finally decided to get online.
Magnet is: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:912b6fb816b5e5fd4b56689ceb4bf5a337860a15&dn=dejieshi%20no%20bunpou&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3a6969&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80&tr=http%3a%2f%2ftracker.acgsou.com%3a2710%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopen.demonii.com%3a1337&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce

I'm not sure if the youtube had subs or not, but this doesn't.
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>>3508219
blog?
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>>3509164
...Because i wanted her to have a huge ass?
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>>3509737
Don’t listen to that anon he has shit taste. The problem here is your visual library isn’t big enough to start molding bodies onto refs yet. I suggest if you want to draw someone with a big ass you find a ref that includes that. Do lots of big ass studies. Then you will get to a point where you find it easy and natural to plump up refs
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>>3509741
Thanks, but what is wrong with her ass exactly in the picture?
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>>3509751
It has no 3 dimensionality because you tried to just make it bigger but it just came out flatter. The gesture overall is stiff. She’s supposed to be turning at least a little bit but her back (and what should be back fat) is botoxed in place. It’s not just one thing that can be fixed you need to just study the thing you want to draw more
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>>3509766
>It has no 3 dimensionality because you tried to just make it bigger but it just came out flatter. The gesture overall is stiff. She’s supposed to be turning at least a little bit but her back (and what should be back fat) is botoxed in place.
Sorry anon but I have a hard time understanding what this means, maybe if I had a redline I'd get it
>It’s not just one thing that can be fixed you need to just study the thing you want to draw more
Well that's for sure
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>>3507469
>>3506651
>>3506662

I’m a piece of shit. Sorry
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>>3509766
>>3509774
To clarify I understand what you mean by that (except the"botoxed" part but I assume that means it looks forced somehow) but I don't see it on the drawing.
The pose aside from a few changes is basically the same, I don't understand how the ass looks flat either
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>>3509386
The hair man the hair. I dont know if its just the color but man it bugs me
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>>3509783
These titties don't make any sense.
It's like you want some sort of hang/sag to them, but they lack any and all depth.

Do something like pic, those titties that are at the perfect size so that they don't sag but still aren't small. You know the ones. And plus they fit her body type better than the saggy shit that no one likes.

I'm not saying you should just change your tastes, I just think she benefits from non-sag more than sag.
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Should i turn up the Contrast?
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>>3510015
god this is bad. this is really really bad. especially those weird prosthetic limbs. actually fucking study these things if youre gonna put them in your art holy shit.
also that arm lmao
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>>3504624
I really like the background
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>>3510053
no
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>>3510053
is the flag wrong intentionally
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>>3510092
Kek, i accidentally reverse it somehow, thanks for noticed it.
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>>3510053
In my opinion it needs a little tiny bit of saturated orangepink to contrast the desaturated red and blue, but just a tiny bit like under her eyes and as highlight maybe.
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>>3506969
Hey anon

I love it. Just making shit up as i go along, miss those days...
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>>3510015
>implying firez saw any titties irl except the crackwhore who does modeling.
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>>3507098
Maybe you should draw the face 10% less wide
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>>3510223
He's probably seen more pussy than you fuccboi
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Sup crabs, hows the crabbing going ?
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>>3507021
Hopefully the dimensions aren't too big. Gonna try to polish this a bit more.

>>3507119
>>3507121
Good points, gonna keep the hat next time.
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>>3510511
Looks like he’s wearing a face veil. The light isn’t molding the forms right or maybe you don’t know what the forms are supposed to be? You should do more form studies for light practice and animal studies to know what the forms are, or give some idea as to what they are bc it’s stylized of course.
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>>3510511
What the shit, who deleted my original sketch??
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>>3510519
Yeah gonna be honest, I don't really understand how the form of the head works for kemono. I keep using real animals as light references but don't really go all the way, so I just try to compromise and end up with this. Guess I should do more animal head studies, gotta know the rules to break them and all, yadda yadda.
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>>3508941
>>3508991
thats a start atleast :)
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rendering practice , any advice ?
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doodlin, trying some stylized bodies
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6 studies 2 doodles
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>>3510846
your values are way too muddy. really go into the darks and lights more
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>>3510520
Based janny, keep it up
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>>3510857
Nice stuff, do you have any blog?
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>>3510487
Boobs, clavicle and shoulders dont work like that. Try again crabby
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>>3510857
Eye closer to camera strays too far from the center of the face, shouldn't be that close to the ear.
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>>3510881

But crab-kun, you know that the clavicles and the shoulders can go up and down?, and they also look different when the back is arched a little. And you don't have to use natural breasts with a natural fall every time.
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>>3511044
They don't work like that retard.
Not even him, those clavicals are legit fucked.
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>>3511044
Not that anon but, listen, I know /ic/ has some definite crabs but that doesn't mean you should come here and brush off every crit as crab tactics.
Besides, crabbing mostly only applies to and happens to people with advanced art.
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>>3511044
>>3511047
And while I'm at it, yes those boobs are bad too. have you ever bothered looking at a woman in your life?

This is why crabs exist, its because retards like you freak out over actual criticism.
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>>3511044
Kill yourself
You're that whiner from the last thread
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>>3510487
I'm honestly curious why your lines are so clean considering how god awful everything else is.
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>>3511081
Looks like csp or the pen tool from ps
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>>3511083
yeah but its clean and more or less perfect lines. The forms themselves are fucked but the lines are too good.
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>>3511081
It's not even the good kind of clean though. It's the sterile, lifeless and hollow kind of clean that is the result of zooming in 10000% and obsessively undo-ing 50 times per second for 3 hours.
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>>3511085
It's doable in csp if your stabilizer is high
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>>3511087
>>3511089
fair enough then, I always use pressure sense and relatively low stability since I use the same pen for sketching and lining, and adding weight it just makes things easier.

Feels weird seeing someone so fundamentally wrong with clean lines.
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>>3510940
solid. id personally lose a bit of the humanity in the face. if not for personal reasons itd be so tumblr kids wouldnt get horny off it like the creeps they are.
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>>3511047

Wrong you crab ! The clavicles and the breast change when the back is arched. Notice how the breast point up when the back is a little arched.

>B-but they are still bad !

Wrong again you crab, the left shoulder is still down so the curve of the clavicle is still a little downwards.

>To the rest of you, marine food with many legs.

I don't see a legit attempt at criticism, so I'm not even going to bother with all of you.

>also

Post your work, I dare you.
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>>3511100
Take a picture of your chest in the same pose.
you're cringe as fuck.
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>>3511044
>>3511100
What >>3511050 said.
Most crit in ic is valid if you're going to look past the shitposting. Some are just really vague (eg just draw, read the sticky, loomis). Don't take the shitposts seriously or you'll end up becoming a crab yourself.
I can redline your piece but i'm at work right now
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>>3510487
>>3511044
>anon post a drawing
>not many replies
>someone points something in the drawing
>anon get many replies in a few minutes.

this is how you get noticed here? I want (you)s too
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>>3511114
yes acting like a giant faggot will get tons of people calling you a faggot.
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>>3511100
jesus
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>>3511114
If you act like an autist then yes
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i want to ask for crit but im shy
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>>3511121
Post work <3
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>>3511100
>>3510487
next time you post, try not to act like a gigantic retard next time and maybe someone will give you a better criticism
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>>3511100
use a ref next time.
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>>3511114

I find the number of sudden replies suspicious, the funny thing is that I only replied one time, to one guy. I responded to him because he pointed something specific. When crabs give worthless replies I just ignore them, I don't have time for them.

If you want more you's just post your work more often, everyone is anonymous here there's no need to take any of this very seriously. You even get valuable advice sometimes, if they are crabs just ignore them, how bad they can be if they don't dare to post their work on 4chan of all places.
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>>3510846
>>3510857
I like it, got any more?
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>>3511114
Just reply to yourself pointing something out.
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>>3511044
>you don't have to use natural breasts with a natural fall every time.
????
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I have been doing these mouse drawings for like 4-5 months now and I dont think I have improved at all.
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>>3507823
fuck this is nice
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>>3510053
Jesus christ just use layers, it shouldn't take you 5 days to do a single bust.
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>>3507823
please gib blog
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>>3511190
ok?
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>>3511263
blog?
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>>3511265
>not recognizing the artist immediately
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>>3511263
u forgot a lil sumthin
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>>3509386
i see where you are coming from with this composition... but no... it would be a better composition if you cropped out her knees, as right now they are creating a horrible tangent. when it comes to composition you don't want almosts, either go all the way with the crop, or keep it away from the edge. also stop highlighting by throwing soft white airbrush strokes everywhere
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>>3511270
>ftfy

you didn't fix shit homie, get the shit out outta my face
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>>3511272
mad cause u bad, im just better than you sorry.
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>>3511270
>>3511263
where's the bulge??
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>>3511270
>banana boobs
kys hahaha
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>>3511276
do you like saggy grandma titties or something?
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>>3511265
http://feason3411.tumblr.com/
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>>3511293
i fixed the twitter link on tumblr page, should work now
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>>3508893
>>3509801
Anyone else?
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How many of you guys are using Design Doll?
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>>3511272
>>3511277
you fucking retard
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>>3511100
This has to be bait. No one can be this stupid.. right?
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>>3511044
>>3511100
REMINDER that these are the people who are spamming "crab" and "post work" all the time
needs word-filtered desu
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>>3511156
i don't post that much yet , sorry
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>>3511393
then I look forward to seeing more of your works
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>>3504607
i want drawparty to fucking leave
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>>3511435
Look ma, I'm in the screenshot!
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Thanks to that anon in the past thread, really was a huge help.
Spent way too long on this either way
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Anything obscenely wrong?
As far I can tell the neck/head placement is kind of awkward, but I don't know if it actually is or it's just me, anyways, I don't seem to know how to fix it, if someone can move it for me pls
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>>3511522
Arms appear too short, they should reach to mid-thigh when standing straight up. Unless they are bent towards the 'camera' in which case you should indicate it more strongly with folds in the clothes.

Also, to me, her ankles seem too long and generally too big. I Just shrank them down like 20%

Looks really good though keep it up
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>>3511550
Thank you, thank you
What do you mean by ankle? sorry for autims
Also, I take that the head it's ok, rigth?
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>>3511507
Reminded me of that guy who draw creepy bug girls, nice.
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>>3511562
Head looks fine to me.

I should have said calves not ankles. Just the whole lower half of the leg i shrunk a bit.
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>>3511507
Is this a tower girls drawing?
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>>3511435
why dont you leave aswell?
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what u guys think
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>>3511271
I see what you mean with the knees, but do you have a better alternative to this method of doing highlights? Hard ones only work in cel shading. Or do you mean that I'm spamming them too much?
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>>3511201
>>3507883
Thanks you guys
evaneley.tumblr.com
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Hi crabs :3
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>>3511879
Glory to thee, o King, for blessing us, the common crabfolk, with your holiest presence!
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new thread >>3512313
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>>3511646
I see what you're going for, but having that much noice on the hair it's fucking me up




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