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Previous thread: >>3684763

Porn Thread
Thread for those who enjoy drawing pornographic images

Rules and Guidelines:
-Hide images you don't wish to view, etc, etc.
-Please refrain from posting NSFW images of underage characters(loli/shota)
-Refrain from replying to trolls that give no valuable input.
-Post finished works and W.I.P's here for critique.
-Any questions in regards to reference materials will be answered.

Dedicated thread sticky- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#
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Why don't you guys all give me your tumblrs?
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>>3706777
Trips of truth

They already shut down my tumblr, but I have a deviantArt, do you want that?
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>>3706775
Is that ReiQ tracing?
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>>3706775
>mfw McFlintcock bragged about no one on ic calling him out for tracing
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>>3706808
His art isn’t even good
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>>3706828
Doesn’t tracing get old
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>>3706832
Construction examples. Usually, after a few rounds drawing poses into newsprint, I can work a few decent roughs and build upon them.
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Salty-kun, mind actually drawing up that old /aco thread with the first responses?
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I'll wait.
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gimme your thoughts boys
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I unironically belive people in these porn threads are among the best on /ic/.
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>>3706823
>>3706825
>>3706828
>>3706845
>>3706850
>>3706858
>construction examples
>obvious tracing in OP pic

the porn thread 's tracer, everybody
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>>3706921
on what, there's nothing of value to critique here
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>>3706775
>>3706808
Eh, it's an extremely generic pose that's been used infinity amounts of times. How many different ways can you hold titties while fucking missionary? Doesn't look like tracing, just heavy reference.
>>3706845
>>3706858
Your construction makes absolutely no sense. Your ellipses used for your head side planes are flat out wrong. Not sure how you get such a good finished product with such ass levels of construction.
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>>3706950
How do I use ellipses for the side of the head correctly?
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>>3706950
>hands and tits are almost traced line for line
>calls it heavy reference
kek
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>>3706955
Do a layover then and prove it
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>>3706950
because he traces
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>>3706950
>insult followed by compliment of overall work
This is advanced samefagging and I know this because his finished work is much, much worse than his construction
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>>3706967
>coping this hard
Your hatred for this guy is fucking irrational as hell man, get help
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>>3706956
aight here ya go lol
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>>3706954
I think that scott robertson book has a very technical approach to elipses
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>>3706850
How's it feel to be so good that you have weeb begs foaming at the mouth with rage and accusations?
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>>3706972
>mcflintcock's meltdown begins
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>>3706970
So he just heavy refs then, what’s the need for any construction at all?
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>>3706775
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>3706921
You should really work on that pelvis, anatomy's off
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>>3706775
>>3704451
>I will ask for proof of your piggybacked accusations and a fresh line of bullshit that dribbles down afterwards.
>>3706970
sucks to be you OP
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Opinions on Asanagi's work?
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>>3706950
I need to use more blocks, or spend more time sculpting out of blocks.

I still use the Loomis method sometimes as an old habit. It is a fantastic learning tool for learning the fundamentals (placement of the features, basic construction in perspective, etc.).

However, I found myself gravitating more towards a Bridgman style blocks and the O'Reily method.

I strongly recommend modernjayjames's excellent video on constructing the head in perspective, and subscribe to his channel. I need to incorporate this more, like what I did for the FFXIV piece. Maybe combine this with the O'Reily method.

https://youtu.be/8FzHV2h29zE

>>3706975
Hi, I'm right here. Miss me, sunshine?

>>3706972
Meh. It's the same shit over and over again from the same merry gang of miscreants and pedophiles.
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>>3706972
>>3706987
>samefagging this hard
LOL
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>>3706990
Yep, you're still a faggot.
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>>3706998
Yeah this whiny bitch keeps accusing me, too.

And people wonder why there are so few good artists left on /ic/.
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So this is the power of /ic/...
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>>3707016
Never seen anyone claim vetyr tracing
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>>3706998
trace it, it'll come out better LOL
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>>3706998
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>Hardstones Mcflintcock
Anyone else sense another replay of BBC-chan and the shitstorm that followed?
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>>3707036
>bbc-chan >mcflintcock
and you point is?
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crabs

crabs everywhere
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>>3707042
did OP show you how to trace that or, are you OP pretending to create something original? lol
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>>3707044
all this butthurt raging this hard...

what you lose an argument with him or he insult your mother?
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>muh 220000 billion followers
Hahahaha eat shit
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>>3707065
lol
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>>3707036
One or two fags tryin to put out it came from butthurt crabs 2: electric boogaloo

BBC only got more money, tho. Not sure what these faggots are trying to prove.

BTW Who's redmatzoo again? Fag sounds familiar.
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>>3707065
yall pullin more outta your ass?
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I summon kyle
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>another softstones mcflintcuck bulling thread
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>>3707089
Who’s better kyle, bbc, or mcflintcock?
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>>3707094
I wish I had new nsfw stuff to post but for now I'll lurk.
>>3707103
Trick question.
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>>3706984
See:
>>3706950

Boi, you and couple of others from do this sad little circus every single thread. Grow up and fix your sorry lives.

Tell us whens that loser with long winded rants is going to come to?

>>3706979
I saw his gesture drawings and roughs. From scribbles and gestures to finished work shows hes got talent. Loosen up his poses, yeah, and work on his coloring. But he nails it with anatomy and line.

>>3707094

The legs need work, but the bike looks fine. The light isn't hitting the back as strongly. The hell you on about?
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>>3707107
look at the boots, skin and bike, everything have the same shadow patern. this man dosnt know the diference between materials.
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>>3707108
Then stop pissin and moanin, boi, and hand the man a reference.

Is this bike based on a jet? Kind a looks like it. Maybe start there.
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>>3707107
this is just pathetic, seriously.
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>>3707107
then explain OP pic, monkey. it's fucking tracing no matter how you fucking slice it, and you're defending that shit?
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>>3707107
damn, mcflintcuck's losing it holy shit lol
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A whole thread started by Salty-Kun so he could bitch post non stop about his latest assblaster Mcflintcock. Post your work Salty-Kun....we are all waiting.
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>>3707202
here you go, happy?
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>>3706775
is OP autistic? does he have mental issues?
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>>3707211
jesus christ, your art is so cringey, not only the disgusting style but the captions holy shit.

im not surprised why you keep harassing people on social media and talking about your pedophile adventures.
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Is this totally fucked? What do I do to get the lineart finished? Where should I place the lightsource? (I've done some lineweighs but I'm not sure that the lightsource is placed well, should I move it around?)
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>>3707213
See
>>3707214
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By any chance is the anon from the last thread who drew this here? Asked for blog on the last thread but it 404'd before I could get a response
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>>3707224
>>3707214
>>3707213
>shit art
>shitty pedophile
>larping as a goth girl
>samefagging

goddamn the butthurt from redmatzoo about this guy, lol!
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>>3705609
>>3705450
Please post blogs. These are great.
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>>3706775
>tfw I'm the one who made this comparison image and posted it in the /aco/ comm thread

Feels good man, no regrets.
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All this whining about shit no one cares about. Mcflinkcock is shit, there is no argument in it and the fact that he traces always seemed kinds obvious from the uncanny look of his stuff.

Back to porn thread as usual please, no more namefags fucking uo entire threads.
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>>3707414
Great post Anon! You sure showed everyone what a badass you are! Well done!
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>>3707414
*cringe*
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I asked last thread why there's so few flcl porn and someone said it's because most artists aren't crazy good enough to do it justice and afraid? Is that correct?
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>>3707427
>>3707433
Funny, maybe if you didnt put as little effort into drawing as you do into your "jokes" you wouldn't be here fucking around.
Fucking zoomers need to grow up and stop acting so stupid, you're not funny and no one cares.
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>>3707442
The flcl style is too loose. Very hard to nail down consistently. Also most people arent into the petit bodytype. Its either full blown loli or an overdone bimbo. No room for anything else it seems.
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>>3707222
I think at the moment it's just a tad rigid. I think as for the light source, it makes sense if she's holding the drink in the direction where the light would be coming from. When I'm doing construction lines I find it easier to keep track if you erase (low opacity) over less important areas, otherwise things tend to get a bit muddled. Hope any of this helps. (and nice trips)
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>>3707222
You fell for the Loomis meme.
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>>3707462

Thanks I like your edit of it, more dynamic. I think I might wanna start over on it though. getting it just right. Maybe do some gestures first this time.

Thanks.
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How do you guys manage drawing two bodies interacting?
I find it gets really fuckey really fast and it's never touched on in Hampton's book
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>>3707461
sounds like a challenge
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>>3707489
it's ironic you ask this and posted Hamada because he uses "Design Doll"
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>>3707442
i didn't say most artists were like that, just me personally. like it's not the reason i started drawing but it's the reason i'm still drawing, you feel me? and also that the main character you seem to mostly want porn of fucks with my head too much for me to enjoy it. i will be drawing kitsurubami after i finish a few other things tho.

>>3707489
is difficult, never really addressed in any tutorial i've seen, mostly just studied other artists i like. main thing i took away was having their forms press together, not much unlike when thighs or boobs press together, gotta think of the shapes of the two bodies as one whole sorta hahasdf thumbnailing really helps! have a plan before you come in, if you try to just wing it like i often do on single figures you're in for a bad time unless you're lucky or crazy good.
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>>3707414
Who would you recommend then?
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New stuff for my pixiv.
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>>3707103
Kyle is a meme.
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>>3707529
What do you mean? I dont recommend anyone, just go draw.
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>>3707397
>being compared to redmatzoo

that nigger trace too, lol.
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>>3707222
I kind of think her right arm is a little short. Like someone cut 1/3 of it.
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Latest stuff. Like it? y/n?
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>>3707945
How long time do you spend on this piece per average? I dig your stuff. Especoally their faces and legs.

Right one has a very sharp line between her breast. I dont have reference but it seems unnatural?
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>>3707957
bbc puts out so much content i'd say he's pretty fast
btw he has videos on his picarto stream you can watch, just saying, multiple vids with the full process of his pieces
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>>3707945
holy wew lad. This shit is inspiring. Love the expression on the left chick
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>>3707945
bbc is the best and NO ONE will ever be like him.
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>>3707957
Oh, it depends on way too many factors. Sometimes I can get stuck on a sketch for hours, other times I breeze through the construction process and then spend more time on coloring.
This one took me about 4-5 hours I think.
As for the breasts, I know what you mean, but I know there's that kind of breast type and I must admit I dig it a lot. I think the meme term is monoboob or something. I know it's probably one of those things that you either love or hate.
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>>3707994
Correction, it's uniboob.
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definitely gonna fix the hands an move stuff around but for the time being wondering if the femboy's expression reads clearly or not? expressions are definitely one of my weaker points.
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>>3708031
BBC is better than you and doesn’t need to trace
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Progress on the outfit. Will work the corrections suggested in the last thread soon.
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got some footjobbin happening
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>>3708042

Are you his girlfriend?
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>>3708068
I would let bbc fuck me in the Ass any day
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>>3708042
It's not a contest and Hardstone doesn't trace imo. References have never been a bad thing, and his stuff isn't over-referenced or anything.
The guy is improving a ton and works hard as hell. Everyone should be ablet to tell that and respect that kind of effort.
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>>3708095
Sure can, but the actual picture making process would take place in January since I've got my work cut out for me this month
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>>3708098
just because certain body parts are offscreen doesn't mean they should lack detail (purple girl's right hand and right heel)
>inb4 crab
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>>3708113
This whole image lacks detail. I drew it fairly quickly and it's just a polished sketch. I really have no idea what you're talking about with pointing out those parts.
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>>3708114
relax dude it's just a thought xd
if you wanted actualy critique I guess I could elaborate on the smaller girl's torso but i cba
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>>3708118
Oh, no, I'm completely aware of how warped she is and how wrong this image is. I posted it mostly to add a name to my post.
Also, I'm relaxed. I am just wondering what are you talking about with the hand and heel, since the top girl's face perspective, torso sinking into the bottom girl and misplaced boob (to show she's not a kid) is much more of an issue than what you pointed out.
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>>3708120
alright I gotchu
I wasn't really trying to go anywhere with that, was just being picky
but yeah, first thing I noticed was that squished boob should probably not be visible *shrug*
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>>3708098
OP pic doesn't lie. Explain that.
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>>3707945
No.
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>>3708156
You either need to get a pair of glasses or learn what tracing means.

>>3706970
Which one is it? Bad eyesight or being unable to distinguish tracing from referencing?
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>>3708164
Then why is the lower half copied almost line for line. Explain that.
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>>3708164
>muh reference
or should I go pull up some of your abortions, brit boy cuck?
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>>3708171
You are barking at the wrong tree crab. I rarely use references and honestly I don't care if that makes my art worse than it could look like if I used them.
Style and appeal >>>>>>> perfect anatomy and realism.
Thank god I learned that sooner than later.
But hey, you keep the crab flag flying high, as much as you can.
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>>3708164
Or are you going to let your bitch answer for you, with the 60 inch whatever TV and garbage rants she loves to abort here? I've got plenty for you and Jefferson. lol
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>>3708169
Except it doesn't lol.
Please stop wasting my time by trolling. You aren't convincing anyone here, crab.
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>>3708169
Honestly, you are really grasping at straws here. Even if it did line up line for line, a non-gif “line-up” like that can fool people’s eye. If I transform any two anime works up with similar poses I could make any art look like one traced the other.
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>>3708181
Snib Snib
Teach me how to draw, crab senpai. Please, I totally need your guidance.
LMAO

Pic attached is what this guy's art looks like.
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>>3708178
>not using reference
Yeah right, monkey. Of course you don't use reference, everything is from your imagination lol
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>>3708186
Wow, you're as dilusional as Jefferson is, cuck. That doxxing a few years ago has you paranoid. Lol
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>>3708186
Your meltdown was just as epic.
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>>3708186
Yeah, shut the fuck up with your nonsense, Doxx. Paranoia' s a bitch, isn't it. Just ask Jay Chris and the 40 replies he same fagged for damage control.
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>>3708199
99% of my art is completely from memory.
The closer I get to references is when people send me their ideas in pic format cause it's easier for them than explaining a pose. I check the pic, then close it down and draw my own thing.
I guess I'll take your disbelief as a compliment, crabby. :*
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>>3708214
Here's one from reference cause I wanted to nail the background and angle.
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>>3708213
Samefag
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>>3708214
>drawing from memory
MY fucking sides...lol I should ask some of your commisioners if that's true, which it isn't. But let's be honest, you're not Brit Boy Cuck. You just trollin lol we're along way from 300 posts cuck lol
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>>3708053
Did you trace that shit too, McFlintcuck?
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>>3708222
Mmmmm, delicious salty tears.
Keep them coming.
I love how dunning krugers like you can't believe that people can draw from imagination. This is priceless.
Draw for decades like I did, and actually spend time working hard instead of shitposting and being an awful person overall. Maybe then you'll realize having skills is actually a possibility.
I spit on the like of you, you complete utter human garbage.
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>>3708189
>>3708227
Stop being jelly, just because you trace doesn’t mean everyone else does
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>>3708228
>drawing for decades
LOL
O
L
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>>3708228
Shut the fuck up cuck drawing for decades LMAO Teach me sempai LOL
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>>3708228
Mmmmm butthurt tears are the best, better still if they're flavored with a pinch of doxx
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>>3708237
Keep crying.
Here, have some more stuff drawn COMPLETELY from memory.
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>>3708242
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>>3708229
Like OP pic, right?
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>>3708239
>>3708240
>working hard
>drawing for decades
>making it
What do you guys have? Shitposting on 4chan?
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>>3708242
Weak bait. Try harder.
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>>3708248
Keep it up, dunning kruger shitposting crab.
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>>3708245
Desperate...
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What does it feel like to sucessfully nut to one of ur drawings for the first time? It's like a drawing mile high club and I want in.
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>>3707945
I know this monoboob you speak of. Its really rare. I only know of a few women that have it. But i can only remember Dillion Harper off the top of my head. There's some euro model too, but i forget her name. Here's a subtle change that you might find useful.
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I need to study hands
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>>3708374
Why is her underboob lightened and the whole tiddie hades?
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>>3708387
>Why is her underboob lightened
There is an ambient light source to the left in front of the arm. I used reference for the shoulder/chest/neck area. I might have overexaggerated the highlight in an unreasonable way.
>and the whole tiddie hades?
I don't know
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>>3708374
You need to study everything.
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>>3708374
Is this the Sakimichan school of skin shading?
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>>3708374
everyone's shitposting at you but damn I have no idea how to do that sort of shading
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>>3708423
Same. I get so frustrated trying to render. Muddy as fuck.
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>>3708423
try to do it using greyscale first so you can develop a sense of value. Use only straight black and white brushes and a grey background tone. If you are working off a photo reference, use a photo with high contrast and greyscale filters. a really important part of that sort of shading is knowing where the hard lines are formed from the cast light and the soft lines are formed from ambient light. James Gurney shit. Good book.
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>>3708374
Really nice rendering man but lay off the shark face.
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>>3706979
>what’s the need for any construction at all
lack of construction makes his anatomy look FAR less appealing than the pic he ref'd

but to be honest, his girls are always ugly
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im not gonna lie
im just here for the porn lol
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>>3708242
Jesus fuck the anatomy is all kinds of fucked up on this one, you NEED to stop drawing from just memory alone.
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>>3708342
I think the change you made makes it a bit more noticeable, here's how I would change it.
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>>3708490
Post your work.
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>>3708504
You're changing something that exists in real life you absolute sperg. No one gives a shit how you'd change it.
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>>3708588
I'm just trying to help. if they wanted to change the monoboob, that's how I'd do it. Personally I don't think it's an issue though.
I don't really get where this hostility is coming from dude, it's not really that productive.
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>>3708342
>>3708504
I really appreciate this, guys. Thanks.
>>3708374
Study feet and hands. Become really good at them. They are such great tools for pushing a character's expressivenes. Same goes for expressions.
If you draw porn that's most important imo.
You have a nice feel for forms but try to be more mindful of important anatomical landmarks that make bodies appealing. Like, here the main issue probably is the lack of collar bones and the messy upper torso structure. WIth a pose like this, the shoulders and pectoral area should be the main focus besides her belly and thighs (on which you did a magnificent job btw).
Keep it up, you're going in the right direction.
>>3708490
You aren't wrong, but desu I don't care about that stuff. I'm drawing porn, not realism. I intentionally push myself when it comes to stylization and exaggeration with a lot of artworks. This was one of them.
I don't use references with a good reason. My life would be much much easier if I just went and referenced every single one of my artworks. I would finish my drawings faster and they would look more realistic. But that's not what I'm striving for.
I want to be expressive and I want to give my drawings my personal note.
Fuck anatomy and realism. I wanna do my own thing, not conform to some kind of elusive standards.
There's a reason anatomy isn't a fundamental of drawing.
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>>3708433
I will look it up, thank you
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>>3708628
>Fuck anatomy and realism. I wanna do my own thing, not conform to some kind of elusive standards.
There's a reason anatomy isn't a fundamental of drawing.

when ilustrat says stuff like that i dont agree with it but with you i do.

not that guy btw just saying
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>>3708628
Lol this is just as bad as Jimmy saying he intentionally paints like shit because of subversions of standards, etc (I actually like your work and think it’s good though). Saying anatomy isn’t a fundamental of (figure) drawing is Simon,y absurd though. You can lie to yourself all you want, but internalizing the human form better would only benefit you. Also, references don’t mean you can’t be expressive. Another weird excuse. Anyway, I like your work but just being honest.
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>>3708658
Uhm, form, perspective, value, color theory.
Those are fundamentals. Anatomy is an additional knowledge you put on top of other fundamentals.
I didn't make this up on my own lol.

>internalizing the human form better would only benefit you
I know that, and I'm trying to do that with every single artwork I make. I don't have time to focus on figure studies. I'm too old for that kind of games. :\
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>>3708668
Wait, you’re seriously going to argue that anatomy isn’t a fundamental skill when it comes to drawing the human form? Come on now. You’re smarter than this.
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>>3708670
I'd argue that form is a fundamental to draw the human form.
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>>3708702
That doesn't answer my question, but you're just playing semantics because you know it's a dumb argument.
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>>3708670
I mean, I'm probably nitpicking too much here, but anatomy definitely isn't one of the fundamentals of drawing.
You can google which ones are on your own.
I'll repeat:
>Anatomy is an additional knowledge you put on top of other fundamentals.
>>3708706
I guess it boils down to this.
What I wanted to say is that I value good perspective and gesture over anatomy. At least when it comes to the stuff I draw.
I know anatomy knowledge is a must to make appealing figures, but in my opinion it's not -THE- must.
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Was asked to do an erotic pic of a character that doesn't have genitals, figured I would give it a go and try out a style outside of my comfort zone.

It ended up being a bit too detailed in some parts, and the perspective I was going for of her leaning back on her tails messed up the torso a bit but I'm generally pretty happy with it.
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>>3708706
It's not a dumb argument, it's just not as simplistic as you're asserting.
Do you need to know where the optic nerve is? it depends, it's not fundamental.(just an example, as valid as a lot of anatomical knowledge)
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>>3708731
My premise from the beginning is that anatomy is a fundamental to FIGURE DRAWING. Arguing otherwise is fucking idiotic. Sorry. It really is that simple.
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>>3708735
I'm sorry, that's just not true dude. I think we just have a different idea of what anatomy means...
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>>3708287
You know artists are sluts for shekels, I'd probably reconsider. Just hit me up at barnswallow666@hotmail.com.
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>>3707211
bee, please stop tracing. you're not fooling anyone and you don't know anatomy well enough to make traces look original. please don't charge money for your art yet.
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>>3708778
Low quality toxicity. Stop using cut and paste insults, you don't know how to hurt someone's feelings. Please don't post on 4chan yet.
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>>3708851
gets my dick big and throbbing
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>>3708851
Made my dick invert... in a bad way.
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>>3708801
Kill it with fire.
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>>3706775
Does anyone here have experience with animated porn? Is it fun?
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>>3708927
Depends what kind. there is frame-by-frame and making a picture move in after effects. I usually have a lot of fun with it, but there is a lot to learn to get anywhere near decent
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>>3708403
Correct. But my hand inadequacy is what's really bothering me right now.
>>3708405
I did smooth the fuck out of everything if that's what you mean. It can be too much. Trying to get a feel for where those hard edges and ambient occlusion shadows should fall by drawing from reference more, but it seems like soft, pillowy lighting is quite popular in photography
>>3708423
>>3708433 This exactly. It's easier to first control value closely and then worry about hue/saturation. Ends up a bit cleaner I think, and strengthens your observation of values, too.
>>3708444>>3708628
Thanks, I'll work on the areas you mentioned.
I agree that hands have a great expressive value and I'd like to tap into it, they can really sell a piece. pic related.
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>>3709012
where can i find more of your work?
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>>3708927
its really time consuming. Id like to do it more though.
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>>3709038
Used to be tumblr. enoh-rasko@newgrounds and the links to other places with more shit are there too.
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>>3709041
>>3708927
mostly doodles
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>>3708927
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>>3709051
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>>3708944
Ty!
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>>3708927
I had a lot of fun back when I used Animate CC to draw up the hijabi GIFs, but the frustrations I had with Adobe's program and the counter-intuitive system around CSP (at the time) kept me away from animations (save for the ABA gif. Once you get into a groove, it's blast, and hopefully I'll have time to experiment with the updates.
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>>3708923
>Kill it with fire

tumblr? or what I made? inb4 both
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>>3709051
i like your stuff. out of curiosity how much do you draw daily?
>tfw u want to get good but don't have endurance and instead of losing sense of time in a good way (aka "i've drawn for 6 hours and didn't notice") i feel tired after 2-3 hours
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>>3709093
Ew
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>>3709293
5-8 hours. I get tired sometimes too and it's better to take a nap than push yourself to hit that daily goal.
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>>3709303
ahhh shit how i wish i had that kind of willpower. i really struggle to not get distracted, at the same time, i get frustrated at my current skill level due to lack of a few fundies i'd be satisfied with otherwise, so i just kinda don't want to draw all day because it makes me upset
do you just push yourself to do all those hours in order to progress faster or actually have fun all the way despite being tired sometimes?
just curious really i've been following your work for a while
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>>3709319
grinding for me is simple. it's brainless almost. it requires very little imagination or work on my end. I don't do 5-8 hours straight usually. it helps to break up the monotony with other physical activities like stretching or walking.
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>>3709352
>grinding for me is simple. it's brainless almost. it requires very little imagination or work on my end.
like grinding as in putting out random drawings?
usually all my time is spent on focused, conscious drawing where every line must have its purpose. i do no mindless drawing at all by nature, so at least i make the few hours i do count
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>>3709362
grinding fundies is just practicing concepts you already know. Doing studies is just experimenting till you figure out how to draw/paint the reference. You get more out of doing small doodles when studying than full completed pictures.

pic is by kokimantarou but its an excellent example.

i usually recycle any gestures/figures i doodle when studying for ins[iration later too.
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>>3709370
hm i see what you mean. i think i should try something like that and draw more relaxed and try to push myself to do more hours daily. thanks for the answers friendo
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>>3709093
>Once you get into a groove, it's blast
thanks! I'll be sure to get my groove on then lol
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>>3708628
>There's a reason anatomy isn't a fundamental of drawing.
am i being bamboozled or is this not bbc talking.
i mean... i gues it's not a fundie of DRAWING specifically but it's certainly a fundie of drawing people if that makes any sense
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>>3709410
No, it isn’t. The fundies of figure drawing are form, perspective, proportion, and gesture. You can learn anatomy as a way to learn proportion, for example, but knowing that the trochanter is part of the femur isn’t going to improve your art.
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>>3709428
maybe i just interpreted the word anatomy differently but i felt proportion is just a part of anatomy, i understand why it wouldn't be though
even so, you can't ever be totally ignorant of anatomy. what are you gonna do when you have to draw someone that is well, anything but the most average build ever, like a fat or skinny or muscular person. i mean you need to know SOME anatomy to draw people well.
that being said i never bothered to learn names of bones and muscles or any precise stuff like that. i think as long as you know some key bones that show on the skin and how muscles and fat look on a person you're ok. i just think anatomy is still pretty important to know how to draw figures
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>>3709428
Lol. Is this guy STILL arguing semantics? Anatomy covers proportion, muscle groups, and bony landmarks, all of which are incredibly important to figure drawing. You changing the argument to knowing the specific names of irrelevant bone structures is idiotic. Ask any artist important aspects of figure drawing and anatomy will invariably come up. Sorry pal.
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Making progress.
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How do you guys find poses for making porn? Do you just pull from videos, doujin, etc?
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>>3709474
Disclaimer, I'm not amazing but I'm just giving my perspective to help.

One thing which I think is a reoccurring element in your work is that you will tend to push saturation too much. It can end up being really difficult for the eye to choose something to look at.

I went and did an edit of the legs to show another way you can approach the lighting that feels a bit softer. The butt to back side of the leg feels off due to the anatomy of the butt, but I hope that you can see what I'm getting at.

You should try to keep in mind where you want your focal point to be. The boots are lit up a lot, which pulls the focus over there when it doesn't really need to be. There is a lot of information you're trying to convey and it can be a visual overload, so I changed it to be a more subtle highlight on the latex boot that suggest's it's form but doesn't scream how the light is reflecting off it.

If you would like some more food for thought I'm happy to discuss it, seeing you work hard to be better is very motivating :)
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>>3709430
blog?
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>>3709693
I've heard nip artists use a program called Design Doll where you can pose figures in 3D.
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>>3709370
>>3709362
>>3709352
I waste 5 hours on one drawing that ends up looking like shit and I never study that's why I'll never make it.
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>people posting my art pretending to be me just to insult each other

I don't know any of you and I have no idea why you care so much about what I make. I never posted once in this thread. And >>3707211 isn't me.

But it's 4chan. So that's just how the culture is I guess. Anonymity is something people take advantage of.

You guys sure have a lot of free time.

All I can say is that I don't post on this board. And anybody who says they're me. Isn't me.

Thanks for reading.
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>>3709695
Thank you.

And of course. Do you need help finding my Discord?

P.S. Anyone know where's the usual circus of assclowns? They're far off cue.
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>>3709759
stop pretending to be me, i sexually asaulted kids, im the real red.
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>>3709761
sure, I'm #2150
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trying to get into drawing lewds more often
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i dont understand where the pelvis ends and the legs begin
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>>3709730
well, do study then. i find it actually very relaxing cause you don't have pressure to make it look good and post it on the internet later: all you need is to understand what you're studying and gain as much from it as possible.
also, i know it's not much of an advice but try to get detached from how your work looks like. that is, do correct mistakes but don't get upset over it. a thousand bad drawings before you make a good one and all that jazz.
i also have trouble with this but i think i'm starting to appreciate drawing as creating something you want to see, rather than a constant pressure to make the drawing good at all costs
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>>3710130
>well, do study then. i find it actually very relaxing cause you don't have pressure to make it look good and post it on the internet later: all you need is to understand what you're studying and gain as much from it as possible.
i appreciate it but i literally get on the brink of crying 5 minutes into class mode on https://line-of-action.com/
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>>3710134
Well, and why is that? Do you feel disappointed in your work or something else?
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>>3710134
Seek help.
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>>3706983
and HOW is it off? Don't just make a statement without suggesting how to improve or do it better!
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>>3708490
again..HOW is it bad? Give details if you are critiquing
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>>3710167
i'm trying but no one takes my problems seriously
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>>3710155
i swear to glob i've seen this somewhere before, like her pubic hair peeking out through the side of the thigh holes in her pants is burnt into my brain's visual memory
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>>3710206
I think I have too, I'll see if I can come up with something more creative.

snap! just though of something, one sec
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>>3710242
heh, i like it
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been wanting to improve my speed lately, this is what i could do in an hour ;-;
i know i just gotta keep drawing more and more and even more but is there anything else one can do to practice/focus more on increasing one's speed while trying to minimize quality loss?
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Now that patreon is kill how do you even make money off of nsfw art anymore?
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>>3710289
furry commissions
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>>3710155
>>3710242
bit rough but cool
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>>3710204
Probably because they aren't serious problems.
Grow a spine, grow up or check with your doctor for depression.
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>>3710289
>patreon is kill

what are you even talking about?
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>>3707945
it's not even that bad but erase those lines around the chest area, and it really doesn't have anything to do with any style question whatsoever, there are just not any edges in that area if we are talking about even a remotely realistic 3d form.

If you really need lines at the breasts themselves, at least thin the lines on the inner side. Example, the breast on the lower left part has a thicker line on the inner side even though that side is further away from the camera than the one closer to the frame. You're confusing that thick line with a strong midtone that would occur a bit before that edge line, in that light setting. At least in fundamentally realistic rendering
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>>3710174
Not that guy, but doing some studies of the hip area would probably do you well. The left side of her hip is curved out a bit too much to where it looks weird.
Also, the curve to imply the bottom of the belly seems to look out of place. It kinda looks like a fold. it's placed suspiciously low near her crotch for her weight, and if there was a fold there, the fat would probably accumulate differently.
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>>3710372
this board baka
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>>3710274
What a cooincidence, I'm also doing a blaziken. I'm /beg/ tier so I barely have a grasp on anatomy and am currently trying to figure out how to shade this. Also don't know what color the nips should be.
Any comments on how to make it better would be good. Will probably end up redrawing from scratch anyway, I don't like how stiff the sitting one feels.
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>>3710274
Could you show your construction?
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>>3709352

Let me ask you something, seeing as how I can pull up this drawing >>3703387 as visual reference.

You say you draw an average of 5 to 8 hours a day, not including any other sort of activity to break up the monotony. Why haven't you gotten better in a span of a year? Do you only draw...once a month or something? If you claim grinding is simple, why haven't you improved overall?
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>>3710372
>autistic nitpicking, the post
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>>3710490
You keep making your girls crosseyed.
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>>3710500
nigga you blind?

pussy is a bit small

good shit tho.
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>>3709474
Cross your legs for a minute, just like your picture is doing. How in the world is your left foot lining up with the right knee so perfectly like that, without taking into account the giant gap between the legs?

The perspective on the left leg is wrong. Is this the reason why you trace, because without it, you have absolutely no idea how the human anatomy works?

Look at that left arm. Put your arm in that same position, guy. Does your hand naturally bend down over to your head that way?

No, it doesn't.

I'd love to see you write down your excuses for anything I've mentioned. I'm coming at you with concrete, anatomical mistakes that you can't deny. I'm not knocking on your style, which has accrued the same face syndrome every amateur here on this thread clearly showcases, but how do you continue to create such bad pieces of work, then pretend that by polishing it with mediocre digital painting, it's going to make it all better?

I'd hope not to mention your choice in color for that bike either, making it blend seamlessly with the background color rather than help it pop out like the contorted bimbo posing on it.

And if we want to split hairs, that's a VTOL front end bike hybrid, right? Unless it's propulsion driven from underneath, wouldn't her hair be sucked in by the intake ports at the front of the bike? How can flowing hair just, dangle that way? Wouldn't her hair be flowing upwards even a little bit, rather than this pose look so lackluster and bland? If I had commissioned this piece from you, I would have told you to redo it, especially with the amount of money you're charging me. There's no excuse you can come up with to justify these mistakes, and if you somehow manage to do so, you're just as delusional as the other artists posting their work here and claiming, "It's my style," or, "It's just fantasy."

And if you think the exhaust would propel itself from outside the rear tire's rim, the linkage arm
holding it, isn't big enough.
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>>3710485
Its mostly a matter of lack of direction early on (i didnt really start to improve big time until maybe february 2018) and having to split my focus while studying along several different mediums. Like only recently do i feel like my figures are alright, but my painting technique is still bad. I also need to improve on landscapes, animation, and composition.

5-8 hours is more of a goal to meet than something that i already do. Of course having a day job interferes with it. If i dont live with my goal in mind then if i ever make my hobby a career ill never be able to keep up. In the 5-8 hours i include any doodles i make in the notebook i carry around. It helps to pad it out a bit. Dont discount doodling because it helps to record any ideas that may come up in your normal daily life.

Not every drawing is gonna be gold too. Some are just better than others due to some universal feng shui i have yet to get a feel for.
Pic was done a month later from the one you showed. December 2017

My goal is less having absolute artistic excellence and more having undeniable skill that i can utilize when creating mildly unsavory or questionable content.
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>>3710490
Here's another example of how confusing your line work has become. Why do you have this need for over-muscling the neck in that manner? I get that the model is muscle-bound, but where have you seen someone, without it being a female body builder, make that neck muscle protrude out in that way? Even if you pose that way—and unless your riddled with steroids—why do you emphasize the neck that way?

Is that your fetish? If it is, you're better off declaring that now, to at least keep the trolls at bay when they bash on your work.

Please, for the love of god, tell me you intentionally made the right hip protrude out that way. Please tell me there's a muscle I'm not aware of that bubbles out in that form when someone of muscle sits in that position; with the thigh curving back up from said muscle, showing it like you've drawn it.

Do you have any idea how to draw pussies, or is this all just from your collected imagination? Even if her ass is clenching like that, it doesn't make the pussy "pop" out in that manner, let alone give this impression of being pushed forward like a dog scraping its ass across the carpet, because that's the notion I'm getting down there.

It's like she's scraping her ass along, what I imagine, is going to be some sort of grassy meadow, given that you've already foreshadowed what the pic is going to look like already, with the farm fence in the background and all.

What's the overall composition of this piece? What are we to expect at the end? More anatomical mistakes covered in polished color?

And making little whisp lines across the right breast like that does not fool anyone that it's being pushed down with by the right upper bicep. The breasts look fake, which might also be another one of your fetishes. Real breasts don't cup that naturally when they're real. Silicone barely manages to hold that shape under pressure, and saline implants have to be loaded with copious amounts of solution to even grow that large.
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>>3710536
I hate to break it to you, but there's no progress in your work, even if you believe you have formed some form of stride since February of this year.

Absolute artistic excellence and having undeniable skill go hand in hand. but like many of you here on this thread who love to separate those ideals into their own specific categories, well, the proof is in your pudding.

And sure, the picture you posted just a month after the one I referenced COULD show that there's improvement, you regressed back to this>>3709352 which only shows that you draw maybe once every two or three months, a year. That's what, four, maybe six drawings a year?

You yourself said that you had nothing new to show >>3707104 which may prove my point on the kind of work ethic you have when it comes to your "art."

Is that particularly bad? Maybe. Do I feel sorry for you? Absolutely not. You've made the choice to be who you are.

Mildly unsavory, with questionable content. :/
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>>3710521
>>3710539

Okay, she's turning her chest and hips towards the viewer's side as the perspective moves away from the viewer. As for the ankle on her knee, do you not see it resting just below her knee? The gap would be no more than a very narrow v shape. For the fair complaints on the bike and color choices, its uncanny how you drop the ball when criticizing his anatomy.

As for the arm, he only needs to fix where the arm (muscles around the forearm) bends around the elbow.

I'm sorry, but it's amazing how your posts shows such a hopeful illusion and "tough guy" bravado, yet try to pass this shitty observation off.

>concrete, anatomical mistakes that you can't deny

You only got one, which you based your following two paragraph rant off of.

A shaky ground to establish your sense of self importance off of, but hey! Sometimes you got gotta vent..

>the neck in the second piece.

Turn your head to the side. Notice how the fat and muscles (depending on the person) stretch and contract. He could remove one line (at the far right side) and it would bolster the appeal. You're welcome. Where do I collect your editor's paycheck?

>the hip muscle

Any sort of hint of what you're speaking of, or just fuming for the sake of it?

>he complains about the pussy out

Hey, that's part of the appeal. If he shows the spread of the labia, it would the make the piece better.

As for your dog comments, that kind of incel shit reads "I'm forever single".

It's no small wonder; we get one amateur artist who demonstrates skill? Here come the crabs leapinf onto him or her for a fix. It's like this entire board is a cocktail of failed dreams, bad work ethic, and depressed people lashing out

If the artist wants big beasts, I don't see why he shouldn't. And she's clearly pushing them upwards. Instead of being a douche and wallowing in your self pity, show that knowledge off and offer something beyond your little rants.
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>>3710539
Why didn't you spend the 20 minutes you wrote on this redlining the whole thing, would've taken you the same time and flint would actually understand what the fuck you're trying to say?
And don't begin sperging now, we both know you could've done that, hell if I was interested enough to give this kinda feedback I would've done it.
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>>3710566
How boring. Between the poorly drawn heels, the foolish grin on her face, the apparent fuck the status quo gesture with the middle finger, and the barely visible eyebrow piercing, you've managed to create just another piece of mediocre, plain as day pose that uninspired and dull. Let's not take into account the THICK shoulder pad you gave for an incredible view of anatomical mistake, you also manage to barter that look with an unimpressive take on the breasts, which accounting for a B cup or smaller, does not bottom out in that form whatsoever.

Well done on giving those eyes that confused, "Is the camera right in front of me with the right eye but oh look, a bird perched up on the camera look with my left eye" appeal. It's also nice to see you display those molars on that grin, wondering if the Joker made a , "Why So Serious?" mention while you drew this.

And that high heel, good lord, what's wrong with you. Have you any idea of what a good looking strap heel looks like, or was this just an attempt to avert the eyes from every other mistake you made in this drawing?

Start over. And do yourself a favor, learn how to shade correctly when using digital color. I almost thought you were paying homage to The Crow underneath that bottomed out, can't decide whether I'm a A cup or B cup you call a left breast, not to mention the shadow underneath the left hand and, oh my god, there's that heel again.

Gross. And should you continue on with this drawing, good luck polishing it to where those mistakes I mentioned, which are true by the way, are nearly invisible.
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>>3710584
So, you're not the artist. Thank you for proving that point. Here's your (You) and next time, before trying to come off as this butthurt brigade romantic, why don't we give the artist a chance to answer for himself? I think everyone's capable of taking a critique in a manner not unbecoming of your reply, don't you think?
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>>3710583
My favorite thing about opinions are that they can be changed. I hope that i can change yours anon. I also post in the /alt/ and animation threads. You can find some of my work there. I dont always make NSFW work, so i wont always have NSFW stuff to post here.

Undeniable skill isnt quite absolute artistic excellence as you can have an undeniable skill when it comes to drawing circles, but thats not exactly excellent, as anyone can get a stencil and draw a circle. But i do agree they are related.

Its pointless to compare something i drew and colored to a silly drawpile i was doing as a brainstorming exercise. Its like comparing a sketched portrait to a doodle made in about a few minutes.

>you draw maybe once every two or three months a year.
Youve seen enough drawings from me this month to prove thats not true. Why include it in your comment?

I dont hope to change your opinion with this reply, but maybe by keeping up with my posts i can change your mind.
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>>3710586
Well, why don't you? You're obviously interested enough to bark back at what I had to say, so there's definitely an interest for you to prove me otherwise, right? Don't be shy, my editorial prowess can POSSIBLY compete with your artistic vision of how it could have been, right?

Dog comments are better left to you, as you've clearly shown. I have no doubt in my mind you're this artist here, >>3707945
and this one >>3708098 and this one>>3708219 and this one >>3708242
and this last one here. >>3708243

Now, there's no need to sperg. I get it if you put your tail between your legs and offer up some excuse that you can't.
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>>3710566
Read this >>3710598 between lines. Is a good critique but it feels like a personal attack.
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>>3710521
>>3710539
>>3710583
>>3710598
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>>3710619
So then we both agree, you haven't improved over the last year, right? It's okay for you to admit that you haven't, there's nothing crippling about it to be quite honest.

I saw your work in the Animation Thread >>3703489 and really, it's just as unimpressive.


I don't think it's me you're trying to convince, that you've gotten better over the last year or so. That's a year gone. You can never get it back.

I think the person you're trying to convince, is you.
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>>3710628
The guy who wrote these is the simon cowell of /ic/
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>>3710625
Read it for what it is, and not for what it isn't. You'll avoid a lot of anxiety that way.
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>>3710637
you're not even replying to me at this point. I wish the best of luck doing whatever it is you do on this board.
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>>3710643
Quite the contrary. You offered up other takes on your work, which I took time to go look up to see for myself. It's just as unimpressive as the work you post here, I don't see how I'm not replying to you.

I'm just not replying to you with pats on the head, that's what you're upset about. You think you can show off this, myriad of techniques that you're learning like you're some jack of all trades, but why show them off when you can't even be the master of one? That's like showing off that you can type 140 words a minute, floss your teeth with your feet and draw with your stylus upside down while you balance your head on a basketball.

Now you're shutting down, which I gathered you would seeing as how you couldn't answer my question of you not having progressed at all within a year's time. Had you said anything along the lines of, "You know what, now that I'm looking at my work a little more subjectively and removing any emotion from what I feel about it, you're right, I'm not showing any progress, and that's concerning, seeing as how I'm already a year into this. I need to fix this."

So, I am replying to you, I'm just not going to reply how you want me to. Good luck, 'cause you're going to need it.
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>>3710652

>>3702300

I'm busy. ttyl.
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>>3710456
someone in a previous thread requested blaziken with fat tiddies so who am i to deny (with a few additions more to my tastes of course). for the nipples i'd go with a dark red-ish brown like the previous anon who drew blazi did. wish i actually knew how to shade so i could help you tho ;-;

>>3710466
for the most part that is my construction, i just sorta erase and clean things up as i go, other than a few lines to help me keep the shapes in mind before fine tuning things in a bit to help represent the form better. not to mention a lotta erasing and then redrawing or just moving elements around to better fit with other parts that i'm happy with and want to work around.

>>3710619
>file name a_LI.jpg
it was not a lie, i meant it ;-;
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>>3710743
it was coincidence. btw where can I find your work? I'd like to maybe collaborate.
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>>3710624
I'm BBC and I didn't write that comment. Why are you assuming that lol?
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>>3710753
No one gives a flying fuck who you are. BBC’s art is barely a tier above uncanny simpson’s porn. I really hope you’re just baiting and the real BBC isn’t retarded/egotistical enough to constantly namefag on this board.
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>>3710758
you're assuming BBCC is above using 4chan...why?
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>>3710748
oh! @nellipher
i think you actually follow me already hahahasdf
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>>3710761
When did I ever suggest that? Anyone can use 4chan, plenty of competent artists use this board even. However namefagging for no reason is just autistic. He’s been doing it throughout the entirety of the thread.
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Just dropping in to say that BBCs art is awesome. Fuck the haters.
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>>3710773
So, it's evident you have no concept of how to draw anatomy without it being heavily traced like the example given above as the thread's thumbnail picture. You further that point by drawing 1) the left breast with a lump at the beginning of the curvature from the chest outward, possibly indicating some form of breast cancer 2) there being a complete lack of neck to shoulder length on the left hand side, possibly because perspective reasons or course, why else would that even be 3) she has a neck resembling a broseph at a gym 4)the awkward placement of the ham (that's a part of the hand underneath the thumb by the way, I'm not making it up as you go along like you do) now being visible, despite the angle you're desperately trying to show off as productive perspective work (more on that later) 5) how the right hand is HUGE with a case of elephantitits and 6) how the skirt has this beginner sense of draping cloth to it, like if you have absolutely no idea where to add the folds, or where to hide them.

Though you're giving us this sense of nightfall in the picture, where is the pillow shaded light coming from, and why is that light source so close to her skin that you can make out every single, particular muscle and fold in the skin? Do your characters emit some form of bio-luminescent under glow we're not aware of? Is there some sort of radiation fetish you neglect to tell us? And while we're at it, will you go back and take a look at that left elbow protruding from the skin like that, it sure looks like something worth taking a trip to the hospital for.

It's too bad the hospital can't take care of that boring, Betty Page expression on her face. You'd think someone with some form of background in light bondage would much rather have a look of looming, daunted submission rather that a sheepish grin of when the next trip to McDonalds is.

And that's just the bimbo. Let me tell you more about what's wrong with the perspective...
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>>3710773
So, you're treating us to this look of perpectiveon the picture as if we're peeking up from the lower left of the picture, to the top right of it, correct? Now according to how you're leading us from the bottom left to the top right...why are the pots in the picture completely out of depth perception? We have this brown pot that literally right next to us with venus flytraps no doubt looking for a place to die in this picture, why is one of them...BEHIND the pot hanging from what I gather is a make believe ceiling in your picture...but you drew the hanging picture as if it were AWAY from us? Now, before you say the pot that's magically hanging in the air is smaller that the pot resting on the table/dresser/whatever it is in your imaginaton, shouldn't that pot hanging in the air be CLOSER to our visual focal point rather than AWAY like you chose to draw it it? Or am I looking at it wrong and, is the floating pot in the air, pouring out green liquid, causing the venus flytraps to instantaneously sprout from the pot below?

Are the muscle fibers in the background suppose to act like curtains, or are the curtains in the background cosplaying as muscle fibers?

Please, by all means, have someone bark in your defense who all these mistakes are stylistic choices, or was I correct in assuming you can't answer back with one shred of truth when it comes to someone actually calling you out on your mistakes, even well into the digital painting process?

Please, your thoughts.
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>>3710539
Could you do a quick redline?
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>>3710876
Oh how we want so badly not to be dismantled with our work that we rush to create something to validate ourselves, don't we? Where did you copy this from, and how long did it take you? You're known for that, you know. >>3694711 >>3694739

Nice work on drawing the dribble of the left hand, thought. I also love how her entire lower right arm is just nestled so comfortably under her thigh like that, though. Does she yoga? I can't imagine a woman dropping her ankles behind her ears like that without being completely nimble. Love the work on the asshairs by the way, was that a stylistic choice of yours? Or were you trying to crosshatch like the mangaka of today, I gather? And he-she must be tucking, I've only seem balls dangle downward like that, which is okay, if you love the shemale look to your work. Maybe he's curious and wanted to see what it was like to be a girl for a while, right?

Oh, one more thing. Could we work on giving the drawing some eyes next time, rather than just black sockets. And really, she's going to fuck up her eyes wearing her glasses like that; its called a prescription for a reason, they're not meant to be worn upside down like that. Oh, it's a stylistic choice like the asshairs, you say? Say no more, let's all pretend it's okay then.

Wait a minute.

Tell me, when he measures for shoes, is the left foot always bigger than the right? And is that a pillow its laying on, or a place mat, or just something scribbled in as an after though?

Was this supposed to impress me? Because it didn't. Sorry. Nice try though, another two hours wasted I'm afraid.

Tragic.
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>>3710919
take the namefagging as you talking to yourself ha ha
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>>3710919
>>3710920

Kinda not what i wanted to happen and your commentary is getting less and less useful. You should take a nap.
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>>3710924
There, there. You'll get 'em someday, tiger.
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>>3710893
>>3710900

>no concept of anatomy
Okay, anons! This little nugget of gold is coming from the guy who fucked up his critique, got exposed, and then hand-waved it like a bitch.

>>3710584

But since you caved so hard that you had to double down on hyperbole...let's break down some simple rules.

1. Provide a reference so people can understand your point. Nobody understands your sperging, and beyond the hyperbole you spit, the only real point you had was simply to draw out one of the flytraps. That was the only legible read anyone could take from this.

1. The lighting on the breasts is a very easy fix. Assuming he is using layers, he simply can erase that lighting and have it focused on illuminating the top portion of the breast.

2. Shift your shoulder forward a touch.

3. Same as three, but you'd ever hold interest in starting a redline to help the artist identify faults, please go right ahead.

4. Okay, how? Please elaborate beyond hearing yourself speak, darling. Work it out and be helpful to those anons in need.

5. Point.

6. Okay, Mr. Expert, please demonstrate your variant or the variant from an artist far more competent than you to help this young artist.

>elbow
Point

>Lighting
Have you thought there would be a second light source?

>illuminating every muscle fiber

Okay, backing away slowly...now you're in the realm of self-delusion

And the fact she might be some sort of campiric powersub? Lure men in with doe-eyed stare and then rip our tthe victims lifeforce? Because that anticipation is the feel I get from looking at her expression. And yes, given what I've seen, it fits while you continue to split hairs and make few points.

Let me guess, you're the ray of light who granted us this masterpiece...

>>3708189

Or even this.

>>3707211
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>>3710929
Can you draw a redline and show us what you mean?
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>>3710929
All bark and no bite. You should have learned from your first soapbox, that unless the artist is willing to back up these claims with their own words, there's nothing you can defend, really. But here's another (You) kiddo, three more (You)s and you have enough to order that magic whistle you've always wanted!

How entertaining.
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>>3710919
Okay, here we go again! Self-owns on his point on the ankles! Another point for the charts! More mindless insults while offering nothing to work with!

Here's a demonstration of how you can critique a piece without beind a sperg:

>>3710876
There are three things that stick out to me:

1. If you flip the canvas, her right shoulder looks detached from the rest of the body. Her knees would be resting just above her shoulders. Remember two details: first, the length of the shoulders from side to side is between 1.5-2 head widths. Second, have her either holding her add up of holding her thighs down with her forearms, with the elbows stretched to the sides and digging into the pillow.

2. You captures the gravity of her breasts, but not the way her thighs would be pushing her cleavage together.

3. Where her her breasts insert is too low, as if the lower pec muscles were inserted just below her rib cage and into her upper abdominal muscles.

If you need anything, ask and I'm all ears!
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>>3710929
>>3710949
post your work
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>>3710943
>>3710952
>>3710919
red stop being a bitch
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this is the best thread on /ic/ ever
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And so, we draw to a close the Jay Chris Jefferson edition of the Porn Thread. As expected, Jefferson had a magnificent meltdown for the first 40 replies or so, then Victoria (RedMatzoo) comes in and derails the thread as usual.

I'm convinced that Jay Chris is autistic. What did you think Jefferson, that I was just going to pick some random picture of yours to post as OP pic? Oh no, we have the /aco/ commission thread archive and this fine human being >>3707401 to thank for that.

The fact that you STILL manage to crank out the same bullshit for OVER a year is amazing, thanks for not disappointing this thread. Your meltdown was fucking epic, and really, it's to be expected.

The meds wear off after dark.
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should the pussy be visible at this angle? even by a little?
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>>3710943
Okay, so you got nothing no response nothing helpful nada after your bitch fest?
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>>3710975
Shut the fuck up Victoria. Go eat a dick.
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>>3710974
id avoid making the puss too visible. It is almost always hidden by the ass when the legs are closed.
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>>3710974
Yeah sure, show that pussy off. That look on her face, though. Is she about to fart?
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>>3710971
>meltdown
wat.jpg
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>>3710976
Wrong anon. Scroll up for your boy up a little bit.

>>3710971
Okay, the fuck are you talking about? The only thing we see is a couple of crabs throwing a bitch fit. Please, do point to this "meltdown". McFlint handled himself very well.
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>>3710980


>>3706823
>>3706825
>>3706828
>>3706845
>>3706850
>>3706858
>damage control

>>3706950
>>3706954
>>3706956
>>3706972
>>3706987
>>3706998
>>3707042
>>3707074
>>3707107
>meltdown

>>3707216
>re-igniting his feud with Victoria (RedMatzoo)

>>3708189
>has an obsession with Salty Kun

>>3709093
>keeps uploading his old shit

>>3710521
>>3710539
>gets redpilled and doesn't know how to reply back when called out on his shit

>>3710584
>McFlintcuck when he's off the meds

>>3710773
>le progress kek

A glorious example of Jay Chris Jefferson, a.k.a. ABitOfCrumpet, Justtracey McReference. Did I miss something?
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>>3710984
See >>3710991
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>>3710977

How about, this much? just a hint? or nothing at all?
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>>3710995
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>>3710995
both
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>>3710997
your shit's no better, faggot what are you bitching about
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This is why we can't have nice things anymore
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>>3711005
BAJABBERS!
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>>3710991
Okay, why are you mixing my posts and others with McFlints?

Somehow I'm to convinced WIPs is a meltdown? He and several challenged you to prove a trace and you failed.

BTW, stop being a bitch when called out.

>>3708098
This

>>3708207
Okay, just saw this. Wow. Just wow! You people are utterly fucking disgusting. Congrats on undermining your fucking selves further with your stalking.
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>>3711015
Thats...a really big loaf.

>>3711016
Pic
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>>3711017
See >>3706970
>being this delusional
>kek
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>>3711029
Oh wow, he reffed. Big whoop, you fucking creep.
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>>3711033
>traced lower half
>calls it reference
>dunning kruger in the making
lol
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>>3711039
>the first and loudest to cry Dunning Kruger syndrome inevitably become swept up in theirs, if their episode is not already in motion.

Is your eyesight really that shit?

But please, keep feeding me those tears...

>>3708240
>>3708213
Thanks for the evidence, though!
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>mcflintcuck caught tracing again
>instead of let it go he start feeding
>keep losing to cheap arguments
>he start to melt
>as a control damage, he samefag and for some reason he start spamming his art
>some anons give him solid advice
>start to sperg
>he see ghosts everywhere
>his last hope: making fun of salty kun art and "bulling" redmatzoo
>even in /aco/ people are talking about him
>mods of /aco/ commission server talking about banning him

mfw
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>>3710758
So if I said that I'm the anon that drew those pictures, that would've made a huge difference.?
You realize there are signatures on those artworks right?

>>3710778
>namefagging for no reason is just autistic
>no reason
That guy told me I made a comment I didn't. I replied to that.

Dude, stop living in a bubble called 4chan and realize people don't give a crap about namefagging and other edgy rules made up by basement dwellers. Go relieve your stress with something instead of being triggered by bs like this. Jesus Christ.
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>>3711051
*cringe*
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>>3711051
Can you please stop with this fucking tirade. You are annoying af.
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>>3711049
>Furcadia
>asphyxiation pain
>MLP tab
what a faggot lol
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>>3711066
shut the fuck up faggot, or I'll shit on the next thread too lol
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>>3711070
A little image off Google for you enjoy. ;)
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>>3711072
Get help with your frustrations.
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>>3710974
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So which one of you is MarmaladeMum fagging it up anonymously?
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>>3711015
>>3710949
>>3710929
>>3710584
MarmaladeMum, took me a while to notice her, but her art style is a dead give away, and so are her replies. she got doxxed over the Thanksgiving weekend this year for drawing a character getting blacked

see pic

you can see the bitch cry about it here: https://twitter.com/Marmalade_Mum/status/1065523577854713856

she lurks the porn threads since her work got shit up back in october.

you're welcome :)
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My sleep cycle is fucked thanks super smash.
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sprites for the game im working on

what do you think?
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>>3711163
Hit or miss...I guess they never miss huh?
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>>3711163
Style is a dead giveaway? Are you blind or from Devianart?
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>>3711179
Her pose is extremely stiff and boring.
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>>3711179
It's ok but heavilly depends on what you want to do with it. If it's a sprite for H-game with always on screen sprite that showing status then i'd suggest to break symmetry somewhat. Try to lurk around in /hgg/ for examples
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>>3711197
Eh whatever don't listen to me I'm a huge NGMI I should not be giving crits.
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>>3711206
Yeah I'm thinking it's time to stop drawing.
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>>3711206
cute, I love it
thanks for doing it
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>>3708098
how do i get a com from you bbc?
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>>3711163
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>>3711121
>>3711163
>>3711166

Samefagging

Not only did you miss your target by a long shot (I never knew who this MarmaladeMum was until this little ploy), but you're little episode was so very revealing. As your meltdown about your targets in the last thread. ;)

Also, thank you for confirming to be so...so insecure, you desperately ignite feuds and stalk artists more successful than you.

Take care, and don't let the door snack your butt on the way out!
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>>3711257
Become a patron at $1 and wait for a year. That's the best chance you have right now. Sorry :\
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When will critiqueanon cruelly rip my work apart?
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>>3711312
When he can get over himself, redline,and be more succinct on his points.
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>>3711312
Never, he's just a joke.
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>>3711312
I love how he just refused to respond when his muddled critiques got called out. Aw, and he even accused others of soap boxing!

Him getting owned on his fucked knowlege of anatomy was just...
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... and people say /aco/ is the worst
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>>3711338
but you never redlined either, so you're both faggots who just shit up the thread for yourselves
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>>3711271
and this reveals what a little crybaby you are. why would you be proud of revealing that
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>>3710773
Redline sorta. Also your compositions are way way too dark. Dark red, on brown on black is not appealing visually. A night sky should never be straight black like that. I have a feeling your monitor may be set too bright. The last picture you did of the girl laying on the motorcycle you couldn't see the background at all. You may need to calibrate your monitor. If your on a windows PC just go to the windows search and type in "Calibrate".
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>>3710876
appealing af. your lineart and forms are great in general imo.
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>>3712038
cute
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>>3712038
>>3712035
>>3712034
this gave me the big boner but only because I have a thing for dickgirls fucking onaholes
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Hi. I drew this. Does anything look stupid on it to you so far?
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>>3712034
>>3712035
>>3712038
I love these

>>3712391
I get that it's the artstyle, but not personally a fan of how small the torso / waist gets.
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>>3712391

I used to exclusively draw sonic charecters and i do this mistake often because of it.
The proportions are too exagerated.
I tried changing the head and hands size.
Also changed her expresion.
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>>3709893
You should stop
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>>3710773
I think you have potential but for the love of god learn how to draw breast, this is porn and it's supposed to be attractive so if you're drawing a female you have to draw them right

literally ONE job and you blew it.
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>>3710974
I would be worried about more than just the pussy on this piece.
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You aren't going anywhere
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>>3713223
why
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Are there any sort of "one-a-day" type NSFW drawing challenges?





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