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What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
Hitokaku Index
>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #art
>yoshikadu2011 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUx5dpO6d5gQ4KWNPc24CKw
FellowBro's Book Collection
>http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
Tutorial & Reference Collection
>http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
Japanese Tutorials & Documentary
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317 (0033)
>http://iradukai.com/
References
>http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos2.html
>http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
>http://senshistock.com/sketch/
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I really like that mosaic format desu
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>>3708928
Fuck. Forgot:
Previous Thread >>3702487

I've failed you all.
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>>3708928
i'm going to try and get into the op image of the next thread!
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>>3708928
thats how the op should be desu, a highlight of the drawings done in the prev thread, not just one or two
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>>3708936
Shameful dispray, now off yourself.
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I miss you Chico, please don't die.....
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>>3709069
I thought he was joking on leaving...
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>>3709069
why would you miss chocolate?
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It's her birthday this month, I wanna do something for it
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>>3709179
Don't fuck it up with the lighting then. Ezplosions, vibrant, not the same dullness.
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I made the arms too stubby on accident.

>>3709179
I like the expression of her eyes a lot.
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>>3709179
I have a few questions. who is she? blog? what day is her birthday? book/resource recommendations?
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>>3709186
Will likely do an evening-like scene to make the ground explosions more vibrant
>>3709200
Thank you
>>3709201
https://twitter.com/Yilxaevum
She's Kagamine Rin, December 27
I usually refer to "Anatomy for Sculptors" and Vilppu's stuff
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>>3709207
thanks for answering my questions I look forward to seeing it finished, it's good enough to make it into the next op image. keep drawing the good fight!
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>>3708936
f-fuck anon, second thread I have made the op in 5 years thanks I am getting misty
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precure
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A wip sketch of A style i'm try to dev .Thoughts on this hair.
ps I just started to draw with A pad
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>>3709371
looks like the hair you'd see in a cartoon like the Jetsons or Flintstones.
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Made it in the OP image first time posting here ever
neat
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>>3709387
forgot to ask for thoughts on this one. Does the gold area on the right look alright? It looks thinner but its because of the angle. they are actually exactly the same in the original
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>>3709374
Huh I didn't even think about that
I was just trying to make cute none anime style that would look good with min out lines and colour shading and tapering.
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>>3709357
seriously stop posting here.
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>>3709387
looks fine. I'm a retard though. Cute.
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>>3709393
What is your problem with their art?
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>>3709393
u got it chief
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>>3709398
I like it
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>>3709398
don't listen to some crab still post here
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>>3709393
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>>3709399
i dont.
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>>3709409
this guy posted holding tears back.
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>>3709409
give real critique about what you don't like so that they can learn or improve. if you don't have anything of substance to contribute to based cartoon general threads... be gone crab!!!
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Feel free to critique my gravedigger dude.
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>>3708462
>>3708463
thank you, i guess i'll try coloring it then
any other issues i should address before moving into detailing?
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>>3709432
why he shovel so small
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>>3709432
i'm not a pro so I can't give you a lot of critique but the lower body and the right arm feels flat, the positioning of the right eye is off from the direction of the face in 3d space it looks more like a symbol or a sticker slapped onto the face make it more like the left eye. make the shoulder more clear also on the left arm holding the shovel.
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something experimental.... trying to find a happy medium between traditionally painted and super-toony.... crit appreciated
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>>3709069
She's a bitch, don't bother
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>>3709393
Stay jelly mr krabbs
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>>3709527
>She
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>>3709472
How's this lads? Am I doing good or am I crashing and burning?
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>>3709527
>she
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>>3709566
shoot, wrong file.
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How do you randomly place things of various sizes? Whenever I try it usually end up being too messy or too "perfectly" placed.
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>>3709476
Super bad anatomy and perspective. Everything is flat. Its hard to critique so Ill just say start from the beginning. Draw some darn cubes.
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>>3709590
I like it so far

Give your shirt and torso a little bit more of volume, render some wrinkles to make like it has a little bit more weight

also, mind your head and neck placement, you have to define the form of the neck better, the way you drew your highlight makes it seem like a completely flat surface, try to give it some volume by shading the muscles on it
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>>3709662
I guess I simplified it a little too much, I'll see what I can do. Thanks bro.
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Comfort zone
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I'm not sure if I contorted the body too much
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>>3709748
rub some of your talent off on me pls
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>>3709207
holy shit- giantess loli anon is making it
im so fuckin proud of you man. i knew you could do it
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Finished
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>>3709748
Posted too early
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Colored or uncolored? Which is better of these two?

>>3709897
>>3709447
kino
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>>3708383
I started it in July and got to the base colors stage, then I lost interest, or, in other words, found coloring it too scary, and went on to do other pics instead. (Which filled 2 pixiv pages after that, including multiple collections, so about 2 hundred pics and doodles, I guess.) I think the lineart + basic coloring took me about 3 or 4 hours (since I remember greatly struggling with their relative poses), and the rendering, when I finally mustered the courage to do it on Saturday, took about 4 hours more.

>>3708604
Ok.

>>3709981
In the thumbnail, the uncolored one looks kinda better since the dark green color is not too appealing, but in the normal-sized pic, I like the colored one more because it clearly defines the parts.

>>3709590
Seconding what the other guy said, although I only like the mask and the background.
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Allright I woke up and gave it another shot for about 30 minutes. If there's anything else wrong, I'd probably need a paintover at this point because idk what I'm doing.
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>>3705814
The way you draw girl's faces is super unappealing. Look up good hentai artists and copy them if you're going to make porn.
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>>3710267
decided to give it one last go.
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>>3709805
twitter?
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>>3710357
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>>3709816
those guns look retarded, but I love them. GJ
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WIP, crits welcome.
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>>3710407
Not a crit, more of a question...

but what on earth is going on? It almost looks like to me that she is being assisted in a dance routine by the frog creature. Other than that, i like the forms.
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>>3710410
lol he's supposed to just be holding her upside down, good to know it doesn't read though, Hopefully adding the scenery and finishing his hand will help.
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>>3710418
People rarely just passively hang when someone grabbed them by the leg. And if she is no longer resisting than she probably will try to take the most comfortable pose instead of trying to cover her ass.
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I will only post final after this. thanks to all the anons that helped
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>>3710416

Blog?
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>>3710418
something to do with out her hand is planted instead of flailing. im not sure how to make it read better because im kinda shit, but good luck.
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>>3710451
hands look different sizes and kind of bad
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>>3710518
hand and feet are my weaknesses! so i will try to change that
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>>3710368
Pose is stiff and uninteresting, and the lack of atmospheric perspective makes the figure in the foreground almost blend it with what's behind him. Also, try and bring better contrasting core light and core shadow colors next time. I understand the piece takes place a disk, but you can still have contrast even in low light situations. Lastly, remember that rim light still follows local color, albeit not as strongly as other types of light, so make sure you don't use an overly similar rim light color on two surfaces that have vastly different local colors (namely, the skintonr hand and the red hoodie).

As far as what's good, while I mentioned you didn't have a lot of contrast, the color pallet itself is strong, and the mountains closer to the viewer look great since they aren't so reliant on atmospheric perspective to look natural.
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>>3710451
fuckkk so cute
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>>3710531
takes place at dusk*
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>>3710531
>>3710533
Pic related on the example for rim light. Notice that the color change is very subtle, but it's definitely noticable as it bounces off the different patches of colored fur.
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>>3710451
also, not a big fan of color palette. when everything is bright, nothing stands out
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>>3710535
only brightness of rim light changes, not the color. and only because there are different densities of fur that light passes through. it's got nothing to do with color patches of the animal. rim light is typically strong enought not to mix with underlying colors.
maybe got another example?
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>>3710542
>only the brightness of the rimlight changes, not the color
Inaccurate. I've picked a picture that has an even stronger light source that's artificial, and even then you can see the hue shifts. Depending on the albedo (see: reflectivity) of the surface, you will see more or less hue shifting. The more reflective, the more pure the the light bouncing off the surface stays to it's original light color. If you look at the the doll's face, the plastic surface has a very high albedo, unlike human skin. The plastic brown beard and the skin reflect a similar white light. However if you look at the jacket and cuffs near the hands, you can clearly tell the fabric has less reflectivity, and therefore the light shifts hue. It's very slight, but perceptable.

I should have clarified: with the surfaces you are attempting to render, the reflectivity is too low to not use local color in the rimlight. It looks very unnatural otherwise.
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>>3710568
Forgot to mention: this does not apply outside of white light. If you have a green light on a red patch of fabric, the fabric won't be red if there is no red spectrum to reflect.
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>>3710568
you are right about reflectivity, but thats exactly why only the brightness changes
what you see on the cuff is exactly what you see on the hand, which is subsurface scattering
the color of rimlight (white in that example) never changes, unless you consider grey a color (it's really a dimmed white)
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>>3710580
nvm, you meant the outer edge. yeah, red gets brighter, we are talking about the same thing
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>>3710538
I feel like it actually helps hide how some parts are not very well drawn such as the hands and feet. You take in the entire piece as a whole instead of chopping it up and looking at individual parts.
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>>3710582
>you meant the outer edge
Correct. Not talking about the SS in the fingers.
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>>3710590
i meant outer edge of rimlight
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>>3710592
Yes, the closer you get to the edge, the closer it gets to the light color, regardless of surface color, due to how reflection works. Ffs dude do I have to describe every fucking way I understand light before you take my critique? Are you even the guy I am critiquing?
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>>3710451

Looks good, keep going!
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Another bloodborne fanart I've been working on
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>>3709200

the fuck
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>>3710595
>Are you even the guy I am critiquing?
no
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>>3710611
stubby lower leg
you divided it in half, but failed to account for high heels
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>>3710611
blog?
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>>3710629

mikejordana.com
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>>3710622
lol i fucking gave up on that piece hours ago. you guys didn't even catch my neck problem that I had to fucking fix myself.
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>>3710640
>both offer critique and point out good qualities of a piece #ForFree during lunch hour
>get hounded by a smartass for several posts until I have ironed out every single explanation and proved I understand how light works
>Original artist shows up and bitches about how the critique wasn't thorough enough and even complains about how he had to fix an issue with his own work
Eat flaming dogshit.
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>>3710649
>reads thru the agruments
>the information is actually fucking good
I read through and I take back what I said. What you said was interesting, I'll keep that in mind. Still though, I was redoing an old piece and I ended up trying to edit stuff when I should've just redrawn the whole pose and fixed things manually. Thanks for actually sitting down and giving a crit, means a lot.
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>>3710623
>>3710611
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>>3710653
Practice your literacy next time. There are still people in the world who would literally murder to live in a region of the world where the majority can read, let alone afford frivolous shit like computers and drawing tablets.
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Finished the left earlier today.
Right is a WIP I just started.
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>>3710677
are you black? are you a minority? should i check my privilege when talking to you? are you a feminist too? and obese? got those pointy eyeglasses?
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>>3710684
this speaks absolutely nothing to me. completely uninspired. shallow. pointless.
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>>3710686
I don't know, are you the artist?
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>>3710694
i'm not that artist, but i'm an artist, yeah
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>>3710594
cute
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>>3710697
Cool. Then check your "too fucking retarded to to have self-awareness of it" privilege
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>>3710734
y-you should do the same!
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>>3710368
>>3710531
>>3710535
>>3710542
>>3710568
>>3710578
>>3710580
>>3710582
>>3710590
>>3710592
>>3710595
>>3710622
>>3710640
>>3710649
>>3710653
>>3710677
holy mother of fuck /ic/ in a nutshell this was comedy gold
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>>3710684
Orangutan arms on the left guy.
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>>3710670>>3710611>>3710623

Anon, you have put the top measure bar on the photo at the about a bit below the iliac crest meanwhile on the picture is roughly about above the great trochanter. I don't find the original picture legs displeasing since it's stylized anyways but I gave it a go at fixing it maybe. Leaving my correction, I used the reference legs from the comment of >>3710670 as the guide but you can follow any proportions you like.
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>>3710803
>>3710670
>>3710623

Thanks for the feedback, I noticed something was wrong while drawing but didn't know what it was, I actually had to put her right leg closer to the camera to make it more believable.
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is my style cute?
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>>3710810
super cool. I like the design of her tool a lot.
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>>3710810
instagrame?
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>>3710815

slendermike
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>>3710816
is there a thickmike in the picture?
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Any recommendations for nip artists who draw good looking hands, that are somewhat realistic yet attractive?
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>>3710816
cool thanks.
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>>3710839
>pubes
>big tits
>blonde hair
superior taste
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I finished up this character recently, but I want my designs to be more interesting. Any tips?
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i gave up on this one
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>>3710871
Hard to tell with only one character, but I think this one would look better with more different colors in her design.
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Lol please more drama that was fun
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>>3710871
Try to find a balance of warm and cool colors, or commit to either a variety of warm or variety of cool colors for a single design. You have really good value contrast, and I love the fabric near the opening of the shorts that really breaks up your design. The chain, hair shape, and horns look great too, and in my mind, I see it making a solid silhouette in profile just as well well as it does in frontal. Still, your pallet hovers around yellows, fleshtones and dull oranges throughout, which makes for a really boring visual design. As I mentioned earlier, you can usually either commit to a larger array of colors on one side of the color temp spectrum, or a spat from both. A few places where you can go with more saturated colors or colors that exist outside the dominant color temp (or both) are eyes, fingernails, and other smaller areas or accessories that don't take up a lot of canvas real estate and won't completely take over the piece from being too rich in color. Her eyes are already pretty saturated, but look at webm related.

In the webm, I mostly stayed in the warm colors, but added a bit more variety - mostly just red, but I toss in some very subtle purples on the nails. Was gonna do the chain and earrings in a cobalt blue as well, but it was too hard to magic wand. I didn't want to touch the hair because I felt her blond roots added a lot of character (and desu I didn't want to fuck with the original vision you had too much, so you can discover what works best not have my opinions taint anything you'd want to do)

Take everything I say with a grain of salt, though. Design can lean heavy on the subjectivity of the artist making the design in question. Most of it just comes down to creating visual interest though variety in shape, color, and character expression.
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>>3710416
this looks great but im having trouble seeing whats conveyed in the last panel. it shows two guys about to get crushed which prompts the next panel to show her stomping the ground or something, but it only shows her top half.
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>>3710538
can you explain this better pls. i thought since it was a scorching sun there would be more brightness around
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>>3708928
I have an drawing contest at work due tomorrow - it has to be SFW and original, what should I draw?

All my favorite things are not permissible: violence, lewd, suggestive, sexual etc are not allowed. Or anything in reference to known characters.

I like drawing mechs and bugs, also girls, but that path might spiral out of hand...
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>>3710973
>favorite things are not permissible: violence, lewd, suggestive, sexual
cringe
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>>3710983
Well... what are your favorite things? I need ideas - I usually draw slightly lewd things, that usually have something comically gross in them
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>>3709200
Another one!

>>3710917
Dont. Airplanes are dope. Finish it! Silhouettes of machines are my guilty pleasure.

>>3710812
It's certainly not ugly. her breasts are little too big for my taste, but that's subjective.
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>>3710871
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>>3711080
This looks great. If you want it to be more interesting try playing with the pose, or background. If your just looking to improve the design, reaserch concept art and design theory.
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>>3711080
Absolutely refreshing vs the first pic
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>>3710927 here
>>3711080 is a way better example.
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>>3709535
>>3709589
chico is 100% a girl. I had cyber with her a year ago
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>>3711091
>her
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>>3711091
>had cyber

are you over 30 or something
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>>3709393
>>3709398
sorry, i lied, one more and i'll leave

(i'm not sure i like painting from grayscale very much)
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>>3710917
Love this. Keep going!
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Crit me
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>>3710357
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>>3711105
Go to the porn thread
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>>3711105
the navel.
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>>3711105
fix the hands, they all look broken. fix the foot on the right, it's bending inwards for some reason, is it broken too?
the right arm of the girl laying on the bed is to be fixed too. also her left breast doesn't really work. her pelvis area is a bit fucked, where you trying to make her pregnant?
overall it's okay, i like the colours, but you need to work more on the anatomy.
cannot redline atm, sorry. good luck. you're on the right track imho.
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>>3711161
Deleted my previous post because Google voice-to-text butchered the ever-loving shit out of what I was trying to say.

I'm the anon that critiqued you yesterday.

Make something else.it's great that you still see flaws in this piece, but if you keep on working on the same thing, you are going to burn yourself out. Just move on. Use all the problems that you see now so that in your next work, you can hit the ground running and make sure those elements are correct, or at the very least better than you had done them previously
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>>3711346
Looks like a Nikko procreate painting. I like it.
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welp, been staring at this for a bit too long now..
i wonder if some of the details i added are actually detrimental to the picture as a whole

>>3711102
can you explain your process please?

>>3711346
i'm liking the colors
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>>3711360
Wow thank you. I had. To look him up,his work is incredible!


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chouli
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Where do you guys get specific reference pictures quickly?
You can't just google it when you start drawing purely from memory but THEN start to need references.
I wish there was a proper 3D pose software so I can quickly take in the lines I need
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>>3711423
I actually bought mine. 9 bucks for thousannds of pictures from hong kong. I rely less on google because of water mark

Artstation has stuff u can buy online bundles. Its worth it.
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>>3711546
Anon give the link, I must support my people
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>>3711368
i absolutely love the background. the only thing that distracted me was the extra splashes on the horizon line. I thought they were sail boats.
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>>3711299
>>3711300
I like them all except top right in sketch2. If you have a tumbler I would follow it.
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>>3711552
I forget name. Lurk artstation. They show samples. Its awesome.

Found it. Its free to use. You can find almost anything on artstation.

https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/library/3B5/833/hong-kong-street-pack
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you're pathetic, anon
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>>3711607
>Its free to use.
It's not, you're not seeing a price tag because you already own it, it's 9.90 USD.
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>>3711603
Thanks. I do have a tumblr here https://inkpleb.tumblr.com/ though I update it a bit less than my twitter because I just get less response there.
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>>3711679
No i meant its not copy righted haha
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>>3711671
Go fuck yourself honey pie.
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>>3711105
Uh... this is several months old and definitely not yours
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>>3711368
>>3711102
Blog pls?
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>>3711368
>>3711102
>>3711414
>>3709748
>>3710451
>>3710416
>>3710611

Man, some of you guys are so good! I wanna post some stuff too soon. Very inspiring and keep it up!
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>>3712021
very kind of you, and please do it!
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>>3711080
This but keep the original hair blond - imo
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>>3712021
I feel the same, the art in cg threads are next level, I want to suck the skill out of all of you and take it for myself
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>>3712077
That's a unhealthy mindset that leads to crabism. Be happy that other guys are good too and just try to emulate some cool aspects about their work in your own way. To be honest I kinda like how the crab problem on /ic/ got better and how this place still has less of a arms race like other "social networks" where artists feel they need to constantly escalate and one up each other. It's more comfy and friendly in general.
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>>3712092
This is 4chan, not 4channel, gimme dat nudity. Did you eyeball the perspective or use a perspective grid?
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>>3712092
inSANELY CUTE I LOVE IT
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>>3712096
I still get banned every time for loli. Perspective was eyeballed.

>>3712098
Thanks
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>>3712092
i expected it to be a gif where the tail wags. cute
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>>3712021
thanks anon, don't let the crabs snip ya

>>3710611
fuck man your studies are incredible
>>3712092
adorable
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>>3712103
Do you have a twitter?
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>>3712095
you don't have to worry about me becoming a crab I usually scold crabs when I see them. i'll take what you said in mind, though one upmanship is not all that bad it's good at motivating improvement fast in people. comfy also has it's positives as it means people are more likely to give real feedback instead of being just salty.


when I see art I like I can't help but feel like I want to surpass it not because i'm trying to be rude but more so that I like it so much it has pushed me to want to not just copy you but try and reach for my own higher goals by going the extra distance.
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>>3712122
I kind of like that idea. I might try it.

>>3712092
>>3712096
>>3712159
Here's the nude version: https://twitter.com/OrenjiPiiru/status/1071238081838075905
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>>3712189
>12k followers
shiiiiiieeet is this the power of the loli? I prefer older women but I'm getting on that ASAP.
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>>3712197
You have to draw what you want to draw. Anything else and you won't have the motivation to do your best.
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>>3712191
sneaky good. The thumbnail is nuts. reminds me of an old illustration you'd see in a dusty book
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>>3712199
>best.
I don't want to be dismissive, but non-SFW followers don't care about best. They care about their fetishes first of all.
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>>3712204
To at least some extent you've got to do it for yourself. I can't imagine drawing would be all that enjoyable or fulfilling if you only care about follower counts.

Having followers definitely boosts motivation but I don't think you can rely entirely on it.
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>>3712205
>To at least some extent you've got to do it for yourself. I can't imagine drawing would be all that enjoyable or fulfilling if you only care about follower counts.
I know, but you have a safer net. Practising can be punishing I know that, but if you're a fetishfag you can just drop something lewd when you're tired and almost no one will care about quality.
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>>3712209
In any case, you should pick a fetish that you actually like if you're going to do one. Unless you like something extremely obscure like floortiles, you'll have an audience.
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>>3712205
i think what's even more powerful than fetishes is creating characters people want to see more of, and some semblance of a narrative. All i ever post are incomplete sketches with nothing tying them together, and while it stings barely getting 10 notes on most of them i understand that my art doesn't really offer anything for viewers.
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>>3712211
>Unless you like something extremely obscure like floortiles, you'll have an audience.
That's my point, anyone trying to go at it without lewds will have a harder time.
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>>3712213
I've been wanting to do more of this. Most of what I draw are just disparate poses with no real context or continuation. I'm hoping to get more into backgrounds and having at least conveying some kind of a minimal narrative.
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>>3710594
rainbooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww
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i think i'm done with the lines now for the most part, will probs slap some simple colors on this in a bit as;dlfj tho i really should try to practice rendering. i don't have the attention span for anything more than lines and flats ;-;
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>>3712232
can you explain what the appeal of dickgirls are I never understood it
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>>3712239
Ask me how I know you're a woman
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>>3712241
cringe
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>>3712239
tits are cool an dicks are cool. i like both boys and girls but sometimes i'm lazy so i just draw a girl with a big dick cause girls are fun to draw and so are dicks. whenever drawing "straight" stuff i always go outta my way to make sure both the boy(s) and girl(s) are attractive, at least to me anyways hahahasdf

>>3712241
stop being lame
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>>3712243
YIKES... like... cringe much? heh, totes awks...
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>>3712248
>>3712241
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>>3712241
i'm actually I guy, I think anon did a good job with the draw. i'm just asking because I never genuinely got the appeal.

>>3712245
thanks for explaining it, I sort of get it better now, just one last question is it the same appeal as traps or are dickgirls like different or better?
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>>3712258
futa/dickgirls is different from traps/femboys which are different from twinks/bishounen

both are distinct and attract different interests. many heterosexual men like futa, despite all the 4chan memes it's a simple biological fact. gay men certainly don't care about futa as they are attracted to masculinity.

most people aren't really heterosexual or homosexual, its more like people are androphiles or gynophiles. that is, attracted to masculinity or femininity. (masculine cues or feminine cues). heterosexual men are gynophiles but the presence of a penis with a female body is still erotic to a certain subsect of hetero men.

traps/femboys are a hybridization of female and male traits. they are androgynous in some ways, but usually drawn with piump lips, wide hips, large asses, etc. so in a way you take an androgynous 'base' and apply feminine traits to this, and adding a penis of course. which is still mainly attracting heterosexual men as you have very little in the way of masculine traits. but these men are probably loosely hetero leaning bisexual likely.

then twinks/bishounen should speak for themselves. this is true homosex/bisex territory

t. sexuality pro
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>>3712270
all i read is degeneracy
y'all need jesus
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>>3712241
but girls like futa and traps too
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>>3712270
where does furry come into this
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>>3712270
okay that makes sense I get it now thanks for clearing that up
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>>3712258
femboys or more androgynous girls or nb whatevers with dicks are usually more of a self insert thing for me if i'm being honest. a buncha other artists and general fans of that material i know are much the same in my experience, you'd be surprised. that said, i'm only speaking for myself and those in similar positions, obviously other people will have different reasons for why they like the things they like.

>>3712280
for me personally, furry was the first place i experienced femboys, through onta's comics of marty & co specifically. for some reason i was obsessed with these comics but it took me a bit to figure out why when i didn't really feel the classical form of attraction towards marty that i usually had with other work hahdsf
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>>3712092
so fuken cute mate.
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>>3712295
M8 you're so cute.
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>>3712295
thats right bitch
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>>3711368
i made this process vid last night, just a rather straight forward grayscale rough, layer modes/gradient maps/level masks, and then overpaint

grayscale isn't my usual process though-- I just wanted to try it since I was looking for a little bit more of a monochromatic look to the individual characters
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>>3711368
>>3712338
but usually my process is closer to something like this vtuber thing i made
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finally decided to revisit my older picture and give it a much needed facelift.

unfortunately I have long lost the .psd file with all the layers and shit and will have to overpaint it really carefully.
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>>3712338
ump9 is going to go fucking blind
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>>3710839
Tsukasa Jun
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>>3711558
huh, you're right. maybe i made them a bit too tall

>>3712021
t-thanks anon, you're too kind

>>3712338
>>3712340
neat, thank you
is that overlay layer at 00:13 - 00:14 btw?
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>>3712446
color layer mode in the top left and a gradient map in the top right followed by a bunch of color balance layers to try to look for a color i was satisfied with
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>>3709395
>>3710532
>>3710716
>>3710812
>>3712098
>>3712122
>>3709392
These comments are cute. You have a Tumblr?
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>>3712482
i'm only one of those people i'm >>3712098 ii'monly have twitter @nellipher but i'm incredilby stupid and worthless and drunk
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>>3712482
that passive aggressiveness
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>>3712437
>changing the face from a stylization with some character into a generic moeblob
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>>3711323
>>3711323
That's not me dude. I've moved on since this piece and tried looking into that rim light thing you said.
Some of the drawing mistakes were fixed but they were minor at this point anyway. I really don't like what he did with the colors, looks like shit.
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>>3712555
But everyone says it's shit.
You guys told me it's shit.
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>>3712437
I like that she looks less of a junkie now that you've cleaned up the sanpaku eyes.
I feel like the shading could need some contrast though. I think you're on the right path.
I think the outline for the nose is redundant, if you just hint at it via shading she gets a lot cuter all of a sudden.


Good job overall and I'm looking forward to more stuff!
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>>3712570
It's better now, don't listen to the crabs. It felt a bit unbalanced before. Of course that doesn't mean it's perfect now, there's still room for improvement, but experimenting with styles is a good thing in order to not get locked down into bad habbits. That being said there's no such thing as a "generic" moeblob. Moe is fun and appealing. Don't sweat it bro.
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>>3712641
Thanks that's a good hint.
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>>3712344
legit stuff. blog?
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>>3710407
here's my 2c on it
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>>3712787
genderswapped matress shooter?
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>>3712862
I doubt it.
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>>3708928
extremely rough sketch so far. will clean up and color. had a lot of issues with my tablet this week and drawing a solid, nice line has been difficult.
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>>3712901
do you use any line stabilization stuff when drawing, either built into your program or lazy nezumi? i used to be dumb and try to not use it which maybe did sorta help like training with weights on but now that i'm using it again my lines are so much better and i can control everything much easier.

also this helps me a lot with my digital lines even tho i do it traditional: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk&feature=youtu.be
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>>3712907
oh hasdf also meant to say i really like this so far! i presume is girl arin from those t-shirts sloog designed?
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>>3712907
stabilizer wasn't working too much. 3 felt like s-4 in SAI. it's working now. i figured it out but it took me a while. I appreciate your feedback and the video though! very helpful
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>>3712909
and yes! it's arin!
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>>3712901
Looks nice. What tablet are you using that's giving you trouble?
I had shakey pen and stabilizer trouble until I noticed my old multi socket at my computer was making weird humming sounds. Bought a new one with surge protection and since then the problem never occured again. Could be coincidence, could have been entirely unrelated but I found it interesting.
Does anyone know if electrical interference by faulty sockets can mess with the pen tracking?
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Update from last thread.
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like in your favorite animes
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>>3712800
Thanks, I’m @ohheythatfisher on twitter
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>>3712344
Let me succ your dick
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drawpile doodle
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>>3712555
Generic just means ideally good. Just because it's standard doesn't mean it's bad.
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>>3713073
This. I'd even go as far as to say generic is a great foundation to develop a unique style. Going for "unique" from the get go rarely gives good results.
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>>3713021
*kisses you on the cheek for drawing a cute asuka then runs away*
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>>3709748
B-blogu?
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painting is hard, gib help and critique on this wip PLS
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>>3713174
>>3713001
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wip might i need to still refine it some more
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>>3713325
fucking nice. are you the same guy from a few threads ago with no blog?
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>>3713331
yeah, youll know its me if the file is named screenshot
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>>3713257
Well, looks like you got a lot of blending and shading to do. Just remember the basics and do it methodically. There's not much to say yet, other than that it could go any way.
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>>3713325
pretty solid. i llike it!!
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>>3712490
Thanks that's great.
>>3712492
That cute Tsundere comment.
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>>3713257
I would do the background in reverse. Yellow as the huge part and red as the small part. And also it seems like you could try to make it a tiny bit dimmer to add to the effect.
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>>3708928

peepeepoopoo
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>>3712985
unironic blog request.
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>>3711093
shes really ugly. But the cyber was very good.
>>3711100
what the fuck you mean faggot?
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>>3713171
*grabs you before you can get away and gives you a big wet kissu on the mouth for giving me a (you) when nobody ever does and also for having good taste in waifus*
>>3713741
I admire your devotion to your fetish
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>>3713741
i don't see buildings being crushed. 2/10 desu senpai
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Why is /ic/ so gay
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>>3713345
>just remember the basics
yeah uh
what are the basics?
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>>3713741
Anatomy looks rad, face looks cute, sweat looks cool but I'd personally add some contrast into the shading, it looks a tiny bit muddy.
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>>3713845
we're all gay inside
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>>3712338
What's your usual process? just get the colors down from the start then shading?
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>>3708928
Consort Yu from Fate WIP.
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What is a good way to learn how to make art assets like these?
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>>3713957
3D modeling? Download Blender, and start watching youtube tutorials.
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thoughts on colors and overall look? Any parts that don't work or need improvement. thanks in advance.
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>>3712931
it's my wacom intuos medium. i think i fixed the issue now. and that's so interesting about what happened to you... glad you were able to find a solution though!
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>>3713957
>>3714009
Yeah make small 3d diorama's and then paint ontop of it.
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Been dev this style over drawing anime cute write? the hair looks simple but was A pain to get the look right I based it on old 50's and 60' hair styles .And classie ponytail btas harley is superior then the new lol im so ramdumb
twin tails whorley quinn trash.
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>>3714262
What did he mean by this
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>>3714262
speak english
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>>3714269
I rather work on my own style then draw straght anime
Simple but good looking hair is hard
OLD HARLEY IS THE ONE TRUE HARLEY OTHER ARE FAKE TRASH
Some randumb head I drew A wile back
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>>3713741
Is she supposed to have midget proportions?
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I dunno mang
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>>3708928
Any critique or advice welcome; I really was not sure of the colors nor the shading
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>>3714448
maybe you could make the background colors less saturated or fading out a bit? your perspective is good but it’s difficult to discern the foreground elements from the background when they’re all the same shade/tone
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practicing thinner lines so i can learn to render like the cool kids
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>>3714107
I like the design but the placement of the nose makes me want to see eyes that don't exist. The eyes should be vidible given where the nose is.
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>>3714467
Yeah I see what you mean; I felt the colors were off but couldn't put it down while working on it; Thank you
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>>3713763
You're the second blog request this week, i feel so flattered desu
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Robot with brain and ayy
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>>3713840
I did not expect that, sorry i'm terrible at reacting back to the idea of others wanting to kiss me back. *blushes the most intense shade of red* you deserve (you)'s your art is amazing and I want to see you keeping on drawing, maybe even make a comic or manga.
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>>3714363
Looks dynamic, but I'd like to see a inked version.
>>3714523
Cute and erotic! Post more
>>3714448
reminds me of Yume Nikki, very interesting choice of medium. Any reason for the 1pxiel lines? Like it.

>>3714509
Looks dynamic but still a bit sloppy, would look even cooler if you work on it a bit more! Looking forward to it!
>>3714534
Consider this the third request, I really like your style, very dynamic and aeon flux.
Just like with the guys above I would enjoy seeing a finished piece!

>>3714539
CUTE! You clearly got loads of potential but spending a bit more time on clean inks would make your image even cuter! Anon, I'm sure you can do even citer moe lolis in the future if you keep working hard.
>>3714542
Are you the aeon flux guy or do we have two of you?


Also you're all gonna make it, some faster, some will take their time, but this is a great thread and I really enjoy seeing so many diamonds in the rough. Makes my day every time checking out this thread. Thanks you guys and keep at it, looking forward to seeing you all improve even more with some hard work and dedication!
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>>3714602
>reminds me of yume nikki
glad to hear that because its yume 2kki fanart lol

and 1px brush is my comfort zone desu
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>>3712232
>>3712092
please inseminate me
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>>3714673
i'm sterile
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I starting to feel like I sameface. Is there anyway to avoid that?
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>>3714696
fundamentals hun
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My Dad’s work, before he gave up.
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So should I just post my erotic art here? Why have a separate porn general in the first place
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>>3714837
i'm stupid don't do as i do, the porn thread had been dead for several days and i didn't wanna make one just so i could post my own art in it
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I don’t know how to not color like a retard.
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>>3708928
fun lil doodle of hitler in cal-arts style for shits & giggles with friends
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>>3715131
XD
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How are you guys indicating Screentones in sketches? I looked at a lot of Berserk and don't know how to capture them while roughly copying the overall page.
Cheers!
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>>3715798
Some light hatching wouldn't look out of place i think, since Berserk's artstyle made heavy use of those
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>>3714942
Well for one you dont need to be working on a fuck huge canvas like that.
And for two, honest advice, copy some artists for a bit. Do some studies of drawings you like and you'll understand how to make something appealing. You cant show off these studies, but you'll learn more than blindly trying to throw down colors without any understanding of what makes a picture look nice.





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