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**If you make good copies of anime *properly*, you will be able to draw good anime. If you make bad copies of anime or bad anime styled drawings from photos, you will get better at drawing bad anime. Please think carefully about how you are studying.**

This is the thread for:

1. Posting your anime studies:
>Copy exactly but don’t do it aimlessly. Integrate drawing concepts (construction, color theory, tracing, etc.) into your studies in order to pull information from the reference (anime art, figurines, tutorials) that you can later use for your original work.
>Do a single study multiple times to ensure you address all of your mistakes and memorize the correct process in your head. Attempt drawing it from memory as well.
>You will only be able to effectively deviate from your reference after doing exact copy studies accurately and consistently.
2. General anime style discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Keep most of your personal works for /alt/ or the other critique threads. Here we should be drawing copies from good references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

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Previous Thread: >>3883735
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>>3891104
God, she's so cute, AND sexy!
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How to render anime hair anons?

(source is @janemere for the guy who asked last thread)
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>>3891104
holy cow what's going on with her neck & shoulder. you guys seeing this shit?
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>>3891104
who the fuck is that character anyways that she gets reposted all the time?
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>>3891122
https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Shuten_D%C5%8Dji
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>>3891106
Stop this dumb argument
>>3891112
Redline it.
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>>3891106
Based and sexycutepilled
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>>3891112
SHEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIT IS THE COLLARBONE NOW I CANNOT UNSEE
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>>3891150
just move the collar bone up and back towards her neck and it'll look fine
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>>3891152
but then her ribcage will look too large at the bottom, IT TJUST KEEP GETTING WORSE!
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>>3891154
It’s still salvageable
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>>3891106
>cute, AND sexy
seems like something only a pedophile would say tbqh
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>>3891104
whatever you guys do, don't look at her right shoulder joint
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>>3891192
>>3891154
>>3891150
>>3891104
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>>3891122
Looks like a Homestuck fantroll.
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I'm trying to git gud at drawing heads at any angle. When i do my first stuff, i've tried to draw human heads and stylized it but everything looked off, but now i think im starting to get it.
Insightful observations of good artists work get me idea how to change proportions and perspective of face. I kinda invent it by myself with loomis guidelines.
Anime heads are not equal to real one. I've seen many bad tutorials about that, so what would be great for me is some kind of golden rules that can be used as a base. Just like loomis for realistic heads.
Any book/video curses recomendations about manga heads and faces?
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>>3891221
just don't forget to flip the canvas
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>>3891112
Fate/Grand Order has been really hot these past couple months. See: >>3891125
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>>3891221
this youtube channel has stuff on how to draw heads, hair, etc
It's in chinese but has english subtitles in the video.
Any other video that you find in their channel with english in the thumbnail has english subs.

here's part 1 on heads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko3Zaw8zffk

And part 1 on hair:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuVGowpA_vs
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>>3891225
>these past couple months.
more like 2 years
many intermediate artists have capitalized on that, making mostly FGO fanarts and made bank
my friend went up to 90k followers thanks to that

and yes Im salty since we're rivals.
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>>3891230
I wish my rival friend didn't just fucking give up
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>>3891224
you right i see most issues now.

>>3891229
thanks, looks promising.
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>>3891186
based and redpilled
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>>3891230
I wish I had a rival friend...
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i feel like i've leveled up, but not in a learning type of way. ive come to a point where i can sort of spit out generic anime girls, but i dont know if this is how my road to improvement should be lead. how do i avoid becoming a generic derivative?
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>>3891359
For me it's fine if you're able to draw generic anime girls.
You need to polish your skills first (sketching, lineart, coloring techniques etc.).
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>>3891233
kek
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>>3891233
You were too good, it's not fun to compete with genius
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Is it just me, or is it extremely hard to draw perfectly symmetrical faces from the front? Just drawing a vertical line straight down is sometimes hard for me, when there's a very slight tilt flipping the canvas somehow tricks my eyes into seeing it as slightly tilted in either direction.

Looking at some random drawings, it seems like people try to avoid drawing perfectly symmetrical faces from a frontal view, maybe because it's not as interesting as other perspectives or even just interesting a slight bit of angle?
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>>3891587
even just more interesting with a slight bit of angle*
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>>3891587
>is it extremely hard to draw perfectly symmetrical faces from the front?
Yes, it's not just you. It's difficult in art for everyone along with profile. 3/4 is the easiest.
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>>3891587
symmetrical faces from a frontal view,
look like shit in anime style
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>>3891602
...Oddly enough, I find profile view to be far easier than 3/4ths. It's basically flat, sort of, and it's just nose mouth etc. Maybe it's cause I'm shit, attached is like a super quick sketch tegaki of what I mean.
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>>3889083
got to some breasts finally
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>>3891632
what book is that again?
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>>3891645
hitokaku
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>>3891359
Looks like she took a visit to the worst reviewed barber in town
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>>3891359
maximum smug!
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>>3891602
>profile
maybe you're thinking of the shark face ones? they are pretty easy if you follow some placement guidelines
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>>3891221
These look like they're from that shitty Udemy anime course. If you're using it, stop. Also, try to understand the planes of the head/face. Or the forms of the head/face.
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>>3891230
hks?
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Do you guys wanna start a hitokaku study group?
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>>3891648
more like kaka doodoo lmao
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>>3892123
>not caling it titicaca
You wasted it anon
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>>3892079
i'm gonna start doing this week but no group. fuck that
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>>3891928
haha, yeah... im still trying to figure out anime hair
the ones in my sketchbook are even worse
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>>3892079
you can do it in the thread
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>>3891229
Thank you for sharing the videos anon. I think it's healing my phobia of drawing eyes and elements of the face without heavy referencing.
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How long have these threads been going? I've been figure drawing for 2 months now with the endgoal to draw mai waifu getting gangbanged by 3 black cocks loomis style (eight heads)
I'm glad ya'll are telling me to just go ahead instead of waiting 10 years before I can finally learn to draw the animes.
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>>3892319
the ABSOLUTE state of loomistards
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>>3892319
I feel like /ic/ too often pushes you too far in either direction
imhodesu the two are complementary and you should keep drawing what you like with a healthy dose of Loomis and figures on the side.
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>>3892327
it seems blindingly obvious to me that you should try to draw what you want and then work on your fundamentals when you find you don't have the ability to do something. can't draw a figure in 3D? study construction methods. can't even draw simple forms in 3D? study perspective. people rarely seem to take this approach though. i feel like there's a large amount of people on /ic/ who are afraid that if they make one mistake at any point during their drawing career it'll fuck them for life. i'm surprised you don't see more suicides coming out of this board.
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>>3892079
hitokaku poster here,

if you can get it going, i'm down to join since i'm already going through the book
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>>3892376
>i'm surprised you don't see more suicides coming out of this board.
lol just check the vent threads
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https://youtu.be/szeqGXp5LFg
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how do I draw nice hair
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>>3892514
so this is the redpill?
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>>3892681
Look at other artist you like
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>>3892514
>this amount of views
Okay, so these are the real secrets we need to keep hidden. I always thought they weren't real, but here they are.
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>>3892681
that hair is pretty nice, what is wrong?
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>>3892514
Someone make a my style your style of spongebob and turn it into a japanese mascot
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>>3892854
It's too simple and feels more like it's being tacked on

>>3892684
I tried doing it over looking at another artist (matayoshi) but it might be too messy now. I was kind of aiming for messy but I think I went too far.
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>>3892843
>officially translated
>shared on /ic/ multiple times since a while ago
>on youtube
nah.
close, but no cigar
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>>3892946
would have messy sex with
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>>3892946
Don't draw the entire hairdo as individual strands or you will get that effect every time, model it like clay with big shapes first and then ''fill them in'' with both strands and areas with minimal lines. Look at the hair on these characters and see how few lines they use
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>>3893064
Big shapes, big shapes are important not the tiny details
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>>3893067
>>3893064
I guess I'm trying to do something more like this (poorly)
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>>3893095
that hair has the big shapes the other anon was talking about, that's what's missing from your drawing, you can draw sketchy lines in the hair but as long as they follow the big shapes and rythm like that last image does
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>>3892381
the site is all in japapnese. do you have source?
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>>3891104
What are the shortcuts for a beginner to get decent? Pretend I have just a few months left to live. Books, exercises, anything. I just want to be able to draw my waifu from many different angles.
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>>3893268
there are no shortcuts
better start opening those books from the sticky
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>>3893268
The shortcut is to not sleep and draw more instead.
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>>3893280
What are the best books/the ones that will help me the most?
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>>3893282
hitokaku seems to be beg friendly
anatomy for sculptors too, as these don't have any wall of texts
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This is from today
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>>3893294
This is from two years ago
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>>3893295
>>3893294
Your proportions have improved but that's almost it, going by those pics. I recommend that you start doing gesture studies on quickpose websites, and copies of
strong anime artists
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>>3893297
I’ll try doing some gesture studies tonight, thanks
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>>3893294
I think your lines are really nice, and I think you did a good job showing the volumes in the legs. however, the feet and torso I’m not a fan of. it’s a bit difficult to tell if she’s supposed to be sitting or standing. I also think that while her face isn’t bad, a few things could be tweaked here and there to make her really cute. I think you’re gmi desu
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i've decided to really dedicate myself to learning this time
i think being able to draw what i want will make me comfy
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>>3893281
Can I get a stronger prescription and renewal ? The last 10 years haven't improved my skills.The despair is getting to me.
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>>3893308
Thank you for taking the time to write this, anon ! I completely agree haha, I’m absolutely terrible with feet (so I’m gonna try practise them tonight.) If it clears anything up, she’s supposed to be leaning on a kind-of box that’s half her height, then resting her palms on the top of it. I can I see why it looks confusing though. The face I rushed, no excuse there lol
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>>3892946
I personally like her hair. Looks like cute fluffly bed head. Or aka sex hair.
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Any ideas on her dress ? Its really simple. I want to add a design ? No clue on how shading clothing works.
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>>3893391
Stop copying anime.
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>>3893394
I like anime where would I get my inspiration from otherwise. ?
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>>3893449
From the 3dpigdisgusting. You must understand what makes a 3dpig, break the roastie down to the bare fundamentals, and then rebuild her to be a pure 2d.
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>>3893455
I mean I do that too. I just wanted design ideas anon...
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>>3893394
>>3893455
Are you that one loli-obsessed pedonigger who keeps telling people to stop copying anime and always posts /beg/-tier sketches whenever people tell you to post your work?
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>>3893491

Are you talking about me? I hardly ever post anymore in these threads.
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>>3893497
We'll see. Post your work.
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>>3893491
kek thats mikufag right?
He always posts ika/smug loli #999 reaction images, so I don't think that's him
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>>3893460
Your chink cartoons are derived from life, get your concepts from life and mimic it - not the other way around. By mimicking life you would not only learn how to deviate away from life with stylization you'll also develop an approach to drawing from imagination and describe form independent from any reference or copy.

Simply copying off an already stylized version of life may only get you the answers but it's not just the answers we should be concerned about it's how we got to the answers towards the problem of giving the illusion of form and space in a very abstract form such as your moeshit.
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>>3893575
>By mimicking life you would not only learn how to deviate away from life with stylization you'll also develop an approach to drawing from imagination and describe form independent from any reference or copy.
proko.jpg
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>>3893576
Oh right, that's implying that you would actually deviate away from life and problem solve from the real model to develop your own approach but that would be expecting way too much from you faggots.
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>>3893580
why do you have to overcomplicate shit you fucking faggot
copy artists you like and also draw from life
refer to art books or lectures if you encounter a specific issue
there, done
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>>3893586
>just copy off tutorials!
For your sake lets hope whatever it is that you are copying wont set you back for years and then force you to unlearn all those bad habits because you were too lazy to use a real model and stylize it from the ground up.
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>>3893597
i said copy artists you like you fucking idiot. are you brain dead?
>For your sake lets hope whatever it is that you are copying wont set you back for years and then force you to unlearn all those bad habits
why is /ic/ so terrified of drawing?
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/ic/ is the only art-focused community on earth where you'll find a majority of people who think that drawing is actually bad for your drawing ability. for fuck's sake
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tried my hand at some poses from the gesture drawing thread
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>>3893575
I retract my statement
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>>3893605
Whenever the average animufag hears about or refers to other "artists" what they mean are the tutorials from the how to draw anime material or the bastardized Loomis versions that shows subtle Loomis plates with moonrunes that somehow coincides with teaching you how to draw your moeshit. Grant it that every now and then there's a gem but it's encrusted with a pile of crap where unless you know exactly what you're working with you'll actually do more harm rather than using a real model to stylize from.

>>3893608
By all means, study from Mark Crilley and Christopher Hart be my guest.
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>>3893619
what part of "ARTISTS YOU LIKE" do you not understand? holy shit, you are actually retarded. find art that you love and study it. i'm not talking about deviantart tutorials you knuckle-dragging negro.
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>>3893621
>ARTISTS YOU LIKE
>not talking about deviantart tutorials
Where the fuck do you think most of the volume comes from on /ic/? Do you honestly believe that the majority of /ic/ actually knows about artists with strong fundamentals such as Alphonse? If so, you are terribly mistaken.
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>>3893624
I SAID ARTISTS THAT YOU LIKE
ARTISTS YOU LIKE
ART THAT YOU LIKE
ART THAT YOU LOOK AT AND YOU GO "I WANT MY ART TO LOOK LIKE THAT"
IS THE CONCEPT OF LIKING ART FUCKING FOREIGN TO YOU?
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>>3893627
The problem is that your perception of /ic/ is entirely different from mine, the sooner you realize that we've been infested with normalfaggotry and Tumblrettas the better off you'll be. Telling someone to copy from an Artist they like means you're actually telling them to copy calarts cancer material or the latest tumblr tier material.
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>>3893641
Not him but are you genuinely autistic? Holy shit his statement is as simple as copy from life and other artists you like. Fucking dumbass begs overcomplicating things
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sup /ic/, shitty crayon lines, how bad?
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>>3893664
Draw on a bigger canvas next time. Weird blue bg color. Other than that it's pretty cute
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Really hope that after the lineart and rendering phase this composition doesn't thumbnail so badly.
I like where this is going tho, feel like i'm steadly, slowly improving
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>>3893613
Starting to get good, the body structure feels nice.
Gotta work on face construction tho, maybe spend a day copying good anime faces in different angles. Keep it up.
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>>3893867
Pretty good said my dick
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>>3893867
>tfw you will never engage in creation with yaomomo
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What's the best resource/book/video/etc. for learning female manga head proportions and mapping? Body too if you know of a good one.
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>>3893954
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>>3893867
Blog?
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Thoughts on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H29uqgm-UU
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>>3893664
cute
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Any book recommendations for how to draw cute nuns with short hair? Even just Jeanne d'arc would be cool.
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>>3894113
There's no single resource for nun references. Your best bet is to collect as much refs from booru and 3dpd and compile them in a pureref app.

>>3893954
Same goes for you. Small resources are scattered everywhere. There's no single best book out there for what you're looking for
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>>3894054
she's gonna make it
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>>3893282
>>3893284
I wouldn't recommend Hitokaku to a beginner, it skips over perspective and basic forms
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>>3894053
@LPipocin
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HOW DO I SIT DOWN AND DRAW FOR MORE THAN 5 MINUTES WITHOUT BECOMING BORED
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>>3894275
if you get that bored while drawing, why not doing something else instead?
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>>3894275
Don't get bored. Draw something you want to finish.
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>>3894279
^ this, very solid advice
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>>3894275
Draw in a physical media away from a computer and your phone.
Do this for 2 weeks.

You're not getting bored. You're getting anxious because you're addicted to your phone and drawing isn't gratuitously rewarding to your brain like video games a social media are. You need to relearn that being "bored" is okay, and that you need to relearn how to engage yourself.
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what is the ideal proportions
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>>3894334
5 heads for girls, 8 for guys
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>>3894347
>5 heads for girls
that's like a child...
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>>3894358
Where the fuck do you think the concept of cute comes from?
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>>3894347
>The sheep and the gorilla.
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working on my animu style
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>>3894358
just give her massive tits and no one will care
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Here's the first thing in a week that I might finish. I don't really know where to post it except in /beg/ and here since it's from an anime (mha). It is just a sketch so there are some obvious stuff (like the umbrella shape) that will look better later, but if you see any big problem, feel free to crit.
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>>3894646
Loomis
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>>3894646
The ideas pretty cute, anon.
>>3894987
How unhelpful
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>>3894646
You already posted this in the /beg thread, and were given legit answers. Stop trolling for asspats and apply yourself to learning the fundamentals.
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>>3895014
I once heard that "this is good" and "this is bad" are both equally useless critiques, so I find it ironic that you call that other dude's post unhelpful, yet say absolutely nothing in your own post
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>>3894367
don't you guys feel ashamed for drawing something so dirty and ugly?
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Who's that pixiv artist who draws tons of poses and figures in perspective in red again? 0083 or something.
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>>3895051
Touché
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>>3894367
fisher that u?
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>>3892079
i might start it tonight after i finish some work or tomorrow. i've never really read the book because it seemed too fundamental but i wouldn't mind going through it for fun. spending 5-15 minutes couldn't hurt. have to decide on how much to post at a time. we'd need a link to point people to.

>>3895058
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317 the one in the alt thread op?
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>>3895058
0033

https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=59317
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Anything please, especially regarding skin colouring
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>>3895214
The proportions are not in relationship to each other. For instance the torso is too long, head too small, and you've got issues with anatomy such as the clavicle, the ulna and radius are completely dislodged from the humerus, her obliques are almost non existent, her pelvis is comical and flared out too much even for your moeshit, and her femur bones are going completely straight down instead of being slightly offset at an angle.

The entire figure is incredibly stiff, uncomfortable, her upper torso is implying a 3/4 view yet we have her pelvis and lower limbs facing the viewer which makes it even more uncomfortable and uncanny to look at.

You have more issues to be worrying about than just skin coloring.
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>>3895218
Thanks for all of that, i'll take a look into it, especially anything regarding the arms, since i've never really done the necesary studies.. are you sure about the head tho? isn't it rather too big?
And while i agree all of those problems are more important than skin colouring... you wouldn't have by any chance something to say about that, would you?
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>>3895227
Stop fishing for shit that you want to hear and fuck off.
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>>3895214
I thought it looks already passable
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>>3895228
>fishing for shit that you want to hear
This whole board exists for the purpose of giving/getting critiques
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>>3895228
Wow. What a nice guy.
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>>3895214
Blog?
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>>3895228
snip snip
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How bad is the facial anatomy on these heads? Left is from reference and right is from imagination.
Disregard the sloppy hair, I still need to work on that.
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>>3895214
The arms are too short. I just wanted to add a quick ref and easy to remember is when a person is standing straight with their arms relaxed, the wrist is almost at the same level as the crotch
Everything else has been said already
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>>3895282
Right looks ways better than the left drawn fro reference
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>>3895214
Skin coloring looks pretty much like one would do in Fate, nothing special to say there.
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>>3895052
what if that's how i want you to look at it?
>>3895076
nah
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>>3895052
Lmao that's what they told KYG when they said he has to stop drawing sexual things. Also go tell that to Junji Ito when he's drawing body horror, or any comic artist who draws an unforgiving or dystopian setting
You are ngmi
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>>3895214
No proper shading on the swimsuit.
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Eyes are fucked but I'm learning.
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>>3895670
learn to scale images down
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>>3895670
Are you just copying or are you learning about how to work with your basic forms, construction, and the proportions of the cunt? We honestly don't think you're actually learning anything.
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>>3895704
I'm using basic Loomis for construction, but not really sure what to do beyond that. I don't know how anime eyes are supposed to be constructed desu.
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>>3895708
The eyes are spherical forms that get distorted by perspective turning them into ellipses, this is why mechanical perspective is so important for you to understand why we get forms that are foreshortened. You do have successful drawing from Loomis right?

Now rotate the head from imagination to refine what you've learned.
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I cannot into color
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>>3895331
Really? I spent more time on the right face, but left still looks better to me.
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>>3895760
into anatomy and shadows too
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>>3895821
kek
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>>3895760
why are putting gradients randomly you idiot
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>>3895903
are you*
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>>3895760
hey

just get better at drawing, friend. focus on major planes of form, then you can break those into smaller planes, smaller, etc. to create a soft edge, you just blend the two planar forms together.

steve huston calls it box logic. i recommend his book h i g h l y.
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>>3895419
blog?
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>>3895903
not knowing how to color and trying to do so at 5am
>>3895918
thanks anon
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>>3895379
My main issue is on the value gradient and whether the shadows "show" the form or not (no idea how to put it in words... basically whether you can sort of see the three dimentional forms or not)

>>3895284
Noted, thanks

>>3895256
I don't have any, sorry, I'm a hobbyist

>>3895445
I'm trying to learn to colour skin now... clothes hair and background in general will come soon i hope
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Posted this in alt style, pls critique. I’m new to drawing anime so bare with me
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>>3896269
Maybe it'll be easier to crit if you could point out what style you are aiming for (point out an artist, or post a pic)
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>>3896269

>>3896273 this
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>>3896269
I think the stylisation on the face is really cute, though you should definitely stop using the airbrush to shade
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>>3896273
Well I guess that’s my problem, I wasn’t trying to emulate any specific style or type of anime. I suppose I like kobiashis dragon maid-esque stuff
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>>3896277
I normally have a super painterly style but nobody really likes it save for me so i’m Trying to go more airbrushing. If that’s not the way what do you propose?
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>>3896269
yikes dood
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>>3896269
agree with >>3896273
jaw/face shape seems weird in my opinion, as does the coloring. the hair is kinda blocky, and she doesn’t really have eyebrows. really good for having just started drawing anime, though. good artwork, fren
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>>3896289
Thanks man, I really want to attempt more stuff like this
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>>3896269
literally polishing a turd your anatomy is garbage her right arm is popping out of her belly, her other arm went into another dimension between her tits and waist, her face is disgusting and the hair is the the most effortless shit i have seen itt

LOOOMIS
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>>3896305
Post your work.
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>>3896305
Ok
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>>3896311
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>>3896327
That's what we thought, put up or shut up. You don't deserve to spout the good name of Loomis.
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>>3896327
kek
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>>3896327
i see you have been drawing for 10 years+
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>>3895801
The placement of eyes nose etc on the right looks better
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>>3896311
>>3896331
Not him but that's still a valid crit ya dingus
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>>3896283
> kobiashis dragon maid-esque stuff
Ok, this is really not my style but here's what i think
As well as what has already been mentioned, assuming you mean the anime's style, no the manga, the style looks very "cuteish", in a sense that is very heavily simplified, the shape of the heads looks very roundish, so i'd start with that (in your case it looks more like an egg). Keep in mind that the lower the cheek, the cuter it'll look (look at kanna).
Lowering the cheek will also make the chin less pronounced, which will give the head an even smoother shape (look at chibi draws to see what i mean)
Also with a style like this the nose is only gonna look good if it's barely noticeable (like a dot?), you can even not draw it at all.
I would also keep the shading rather simple, especially on the face... at most i would apint a small shadow on the side of the nose... if any.
As for the neck being so thin... i can't make it look good, so i don't know what to say about that.
Overall if you are going to that style i'd say keep the shapes rounder and very simple

Also
> I wasn’t trying to emulate any specific style or type of anime.
I don't think this is a problem at all... if you like the general asthetic you could just grab some stuff from different styles and make something on your own
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>>3893869
hey thanks man
Yeah heads are a bit of a struggle which just means I need to study them more.
Did that today, studies on the bottom and from imagination up top
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Just a study. I think all the anti-aliasing on brushes has actually started to bother me, so dot pen has been nice.

Anybody have good tips for construction? I swear that visualizing the pelvis doesn't help me place the thighs no matter how many times I draw it, and certainly not with the one not facing me.
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>>3896578
Don't chicken scratch, anon
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>>3896617
that's not chicken scratch, anon
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>>3896617
Help me anon. I start every session with 10 minutes of drawing big sweeping lines and circles, but it never translates into the actual drawing.

I can never get the perfect curve I want on the first swoop, especially on the cheek in 3/4.
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>>3896617
chicken scratch is doing smal lines to form a larger one, he's not doing that
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>>3896622
>>3896632
That's no chicken scratching but I see where he's coming from, it's quite messy linework and it's noticeable whith a thin brush such as this.
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>>3896578
here maybe this will help with the pelvis. i wanted to do the head properly but gotta hit the gym
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holy fuck this is way more hard then loomis
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>>3896689
yes, a lot of japanese instructional books are really random and not really construction. arbitrary lines everywhere to get to the end but you don't really learn anything. it's like how to draw cartoons from kids' sections of newspapers. for anatomy you really should stick to western anatomy as it's the best instruction. then stylize what you know based on what you see from jp stuff.
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>>3896632
>>3896622
But he is. Just check the face and shoulders.

>>3896623
Try using a bigger brush for now? Yours are too thin so the messy linework is easily seen. That and try improving your line confidence. It gets easier with practice.
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>>3896573
Took your advice, tell me what you think! (By the way your drawing is h e l l a cute)
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How bad are my faces? I really don't know if they are really shitty or fine.
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>>3896689
That seems more like a shortcut for when you have an idea of how to draw eyes already.
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Ive been drawing this shit my whole life so dont judge too hard. I did this with very little reference so hopefully its not too weird lookin. Took me a few days. But i guess its nothing a computer couldnt fix right?? Its on an 11x14 poster paper and i might color it unless it looks that bad
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Clean lines are a meme: The book now up on panda
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>>3896730
pffffhahahaha
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>>3897068
Thanks anon
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>>3897194
don't be mean, anon
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>>3896730
It's not bad but I'd not call it good either anon. The lines are quite messy and jarring, try ordering them a bit, don't put unecessary strokes where they don't belong. Keep practicing, more and more faces.
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sketchy lines =/= chicken scratch
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>>3897068
I've been studying this book for a short while now and missed this on sadpanda thanks
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>>3897268
>sadpanda
link pls how do you access it?
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>>3897265
Who are you replying to?
Most anons itt who draw with messy lines don't make it look good, what's your point?
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>>3897274

>>3896617
>>3896622
>>3896632
>>3896641
>>3897068
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>>3897273
https://exhentai.org/g/1400357/1b585a104a/
google how to access it's a multistep thing
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>>3896269
The tits look like a scrotum kek
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Any advice on drawing facial features in the right place/evenly? I'm decent at drawing heads and hair but my eyes/nose/mouth are usually kind of wonky (one eye bigger than the other/slightly lower than the other/etc.) Any tips?
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>>3897301
use a ruler
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>>3897301
start with a rough of the head then do eyes draw one lash then the other one pupil then the other keep a triangle in mind for placement
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>>3897301
>my eyes/nose/mouth are usually kind of wonky (one eye bigger than the other/slightly lower than the other/etc.)
let's see them
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>>3897282
lol apparently i already had an account
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>>3896574
eyes are too close, I've noticed that the "eyes are one eye apart" rule also applies to most anime styles so look out for that, I don't personally like the style of the eyes but you do you I guess, study hair desu
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>>3896286
im not the same guy, but the consensus for almost every artist is hard brush only until you are able to render and shade without having to resort to gradients. they almost always leave a piece to be unsightly.
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anyone have any good clip studio paint tutorials/resources? I got it pretty cheap and desu it's a really good drawing program, especially compared to photoshop, but I feel like I should look at some tutorials instead of blindly using it
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>>3896727
The face looks closer to what you wanted.
I'd keep on studying (mainly proportions) and keep trying different stylization choices until you find what you like
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>>3896286
Show me your painterly stuff, I’ll try give you some tips <3
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>>3897556
it's just another photoshop for the most part. read the manual, look up some vids on whatever you see and don't understand. the official channel has some videos too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhvr1JUEwdo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkLrMGpWayw&feature=youtu.be
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>>3897556
CSP is extremely intuitive anon, I don't think you'll even need a tutorial if you have used PS before.
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>>3897577
I've used photoshop but not for drawing, just for image editing
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>>3897556
Checks the assets site. Tons of good brush and materials to download
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How to draw Sakura's hair?
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Am I doing it right lads?
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>>3897859
Yeah. You're getting there
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>>3897859
not really
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>>3897864
really, how come?
>>3897873
cool, why tho?
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>>3897859
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ITS SO FUCKING HARD. This took me an hour and I'm not even close!!! How do they do it...
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>>3897942
Try finding the symmetry of it all.
Also block-practicing each separate part beforehand might help a lot.
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>>3897942
practice, anon
they did it a thousand times before they reached this level
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>>3897947
really appreciate you pointing this out. thats how i approach realistic faces. like the eyes are halfway down the head, bottom of the nose is halfway between that, mouth is halfway between chin and nose. i know those aren't exact but i can block it out without a reference. the proportions on this are cryptic. i see your lines. but i dont see how to reverse engineer it.

nose is at the bottom of the circle.

ok enough complaining. thank again. ill just try again. maybe ill figure it out.
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>>3897970
not them, it's just loomis. loomis is the underlying structure, then modify the proportions until you get what you want with anything just like in real life. hairline to brow to nose bottom to chin is 1/3s
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trying to work on ways to make stuff appealing.
also shilling
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>>3898226
What is the text in that meme even from anyways
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>>3898248
something to do with mickey and donald
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C90 a shit
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>>3898377
12 more weeks l o l
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https://ichi-up.net/2016/021
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how are anime being done nowadays?
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>>3898438
You draw them
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>>3898226
you are a smart guy huh
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>>3891230
What is it about FGO that makes it so popular
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>>3898525
fate series is very popular, gachas are very addictive, FGO has a fuckton of waifus
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>>3898526
Yeah but there are other gachas out there with lots of waifus. Maybe FGO has just been around longer perhaps?
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>>3898529
I think it's because the series had some decent animes. imo though granblue has better official art, story and gameplay but it's not as popular because the anime sucked.
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>>3898529
fate universe is much more established and keeps churning out new novels, games and anime, so it's got a large existing fanbase, gachas like gfl, azur lane, king's raid, epic 7 and dragalia have to basically start from scratch, and ones with their own establish fanbases like fire emblem are simply a lot smaller, when was the last fire emblem anime? And anime specific gachas like Bleach doesn't get any new content
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>>3898438
on computers. it's a studio suite now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeprFkEkXEg&t=38s
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>>3898649
it has that hentai vibe
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>>3898649
>Celsys
Is this done by the same people behind CSP?
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>>3898438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un9_xitSseI
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there's also opentoonz for anyone wanting to look into that, when they open sourced it they also released a binary for a tracing program. opentoonz is what ghibli uses. gts is the tracing suite.
https://opentoonz.github.io/e/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMQ3etCE_-Y&t=3m14s


>>3898662
yes, retard. you could have googled that
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lol
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She was meant to look smug but I don’t think I achieved that too well, her left eye is different to her right too
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>>3898726
It looks good, anon.
Leave this place at once before the crabs drag you back down.
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>>3898740
Thanks anon. I wish I could :’) I’m addicted now, I reckon I got pretty good at blocking out the crabs tho
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my faces look wonky as fuck most of the times, please help
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referenced from the ed

need some help
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>>3898758
Pretty cute, anon !
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>>3898781
are you using a mouse?
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>>3898726
genuinely inspired by your work brah
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>>3898836
just a $75 tablet
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>>3898840
Thank you man <3 hope you create some good stuff
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>>3898781
Just draw more, anon. You're on too low of a level to even give practical advice to. Try copying some art you like, but not mindlessly. Try to study the pieces precisely while drawing them and don't pick anything complicated like wacky perspective shots. Start with bland, simple front facing heads (pic)
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>>3898781
Have you tried picking up a book like "Design and Invention" or "Fun with a Pencil" in the artbook thread? I'm not saying that you should extensively study those but at least going through them would be a good starting point.
Don't forget to draw with your entire arm, not just your hand.
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/beg/ here, is there any particular book in the mega that is best suited for beginners? Looking for something akin to Figure Drawing For All It's Worth which deals with basics like constructions and proportions.
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>>3898917
>>3898907
>Design and Invention
Couldn't shill that one enough. Do check it out anon.
Also look up Hitokaku on google, even if it's moonrunes it's comprehensible and good.
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>>3898525
Fate has such a established fanbase that they were able to get a lot of big name artists to design and draw characters.
There's a someone for everyone's preference.
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Trying to do some sort of psuedo-manga style.
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>>3891104
I just started studying Loomis last night. And today I decided to apply it to anime. It fucking works. Christ why did I wait so long. I know this isn't anything special but I drew it in 5 minutes and it was easy.
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does that head looks alright? anatomically
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>>3899093
shit i always end up seeing my mistakes after i post

the chin and ear are off, anything else?
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>>3899087
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>>3899111
From this angle the mouth looks too flat. How do I correct this?
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>>3899093
Looks great to me but I'm shit at this
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benis
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>>3899093
>>3899096
Here's my attempt at a redline.
Good head! I dig the eyes and the overall shape. Good nose placement too.
The head is a very tricky and meticulous thing though, we a lot of things to place and keep proportionate. It's easy to forget one little detail. Even I redlined my own redline kek.

Keep practicing it at different angles though, taking note of the placement and shape of the details and how they change based on the angle. You'll get it down perfect in no time.
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>>3899093
>>3899096
>>3899217
Also forgot to mention, be sure to flip your image regularly, or in the case of traditional, look at it upside down/hold it up to a light and look at it from behind.
Anything you need to improve becomes clear as day when you do that.
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>>3899217
fuck thanks a lot, i wish i could mirror my paper.
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i claim the last post
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I question giving this advice out but for legitimate users, you can ghetto separate the layers in a CSP layer with an action
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1486733
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>>3899264
and now you can have shitty chromatic aberration in all your pictures too. duplicate two of the layers, process and offset them left/right, erase the parts you don't want too blurred, set the two layers to normal mode, and transfer each to their respective lower layer.
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>>3899284
Thanks for the hot tip, can't wait to make my art more of an eyesore than it already is.
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>>3898781
Just thought i'd give you a heads up. Someone is using your image in a /trash/ thread, pretending to be you to shit post, or your retarded.
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>>3899499
both situations sound equally likely. the person who painted that can't be older than 14 or 16
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>>3899499
Bless them :(
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New thread >>3899565



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