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**Don’t aimlessly study the fundamentals or anime. Learn the fundamentals (form, values, color, composition, etc.) through properly copying anime.**

How to study anime/get better at imagination drawing/obtain a style/etc.:
>Find an anime reference you like (an illustration, screenshot, anime figure, 3D model, etc.)
>Find learning material that will help you reconstruct your ref using simpler fundamental elements
>Trace the ref using that construction
>Copy the ref using that construction
>Draw the ref from memory that using construction
>Repeat the process for the same ref multiple times and mix in other refs
>After studying a lot of refs, drawing from your head will become easier

**Focus on Tracing/Copying/Memory drawing the big shapes/values/elements first then later worry about the finer details. Focus on only a portion of a complex ref first then move on to studying the full ref.**

General anime style discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Keep most of your personal works for /alt/ or the other critique threads. Here we should be drawing copies from good references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

General Art Overview:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz_mE9a29gsEd09TemJMNTJMWGs

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

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Something I did from imagination... trying to stretch my newly founded hampton/ loomis muscles
the thighs are too thick, you can tell i don't actually know any actual specific anatomy
i tried coloring but it looks like shitty deviant art or something so there's the line art too. i need to learn and practice how to properly render from things other than youtube tutorials, not that those are bad necessarily
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Are these threads worth it?
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>>3957183
wheres the loomis? i see no loomis
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>>3957214
are you trying to say i did not use loomis' methods to construct the head
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>>3957210
what is the point of asking that?
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>>3957228

Forget I asked then.
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>>3957214
>wheres the loomis? i see no loomis
Fucker was parked out in front of Rack Room Shoes. Damn you, Loomis, I'm just trying to get to Michaels so I can buy enough art supplies to make the gains I want!
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>>3957225
its certainly lacking. loomis applies to the body as well

>>3957249
move like movemis
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>>3957183
I like the hair coloring. I think you are on point on what needs improvement in the future.
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>>3957183
Too cartoony
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>>3957167
What is a good brush on CSP to make good clean lines? I'm a beginner
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>>3957412
Any gpen brushes on the assets store. Sort the brushes by popularity and you'll find the top downloaded brushes by users
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>>3957183
not anime
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>>3957422
how is it not anime? i have to disagree
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>>3957433
name 1(one) character with an ear like this
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>>3957433
Its just retard getting triggered by the bean mouth amongst other petty things. Just ignore and keep drawing.
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>>3957433
I don't know where the mascara ends and the eyelashes begin; they remind me of the drag and drop assets you'd sometimes see in those free to play web flash character designers from over a decade ago. It's almost as if you drew the eyes separately and just plopped them onto a face. Hands are hard; so is the body. Try finding more thick or voluptuous characters to use as reference, dive into your favorite doujins and copy certain panels' stylization after fapping. Anime stylization isn't kind to body positivity, so you'll be hard pressed to find similar looking examples in anime, let alone actual hentai.
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>>3957500
On second thought I think it just looks very,, French?
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>>3957505
>,,
go back to twitter or tumblr or whatever female-infested cesspit you crawled out of
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>>3957507
>so many assumptions based on one typo
why are you even here?
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>>3957451
are u r*tarded no offense
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>>3957539
Ok I just had a moment where I realized how weird my ear looks. I just took the redpill on my drawing. But to answer your question, yes
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>>3957433
Looks faux anime to me
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>>3957500
I see, thank you for the specifics. I agree now, it is more Western looking than anything. Is it purely the eyes, or does the body shape also contribute? I feel like I've seen much more "exaggerated" proportions on characters that still are very much anime looking. The hair feels like the most anime accurate style, especially the bangs. I wonder if I just changed the eyes would it make it more anime like. But id rather just move on than dwell on this character haha
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>>3957183
You gotta study how torso and hips work. It's very cartoony and looks like the typical mom characters in cartoons. See the mom in dexter's lab
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>>3957528
>This fucking thing
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>>3957608
Laugh all you want, but it's more appealing and alluring than anything you can muster up.
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>>3957613
That's cute
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I really love Akira Hiramoto's style it's so realistic and subtle.
Look at this nose. How can I master this?
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>>3957640
Based on that image, it seems like
Step 1: draw the nostrils
Step 2: that's it
Good luck
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>>3957640
Wait? Are you trying to understand his style as well? He seems to omit most of the nose with the exception of the nostrils in order to make the women look youthful and attractive. Female characters with more details on the nose are generally much older.
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>>3957528
It seems you are going for appeal. You need to practice making clean line work. And understand how to simplify shapes. This can be achieved through observation and practice. Look at artists that draw in a style you are going for. Try to draw and observe the way that they do things. Ask them about their process if possible.
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>>3957601
>the mom in dexter's lab
ah, that's a very cool insight anon. thank you!
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>>3957640
copy him?
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>>3957183
Other than you line work and rendering I think if you more about anatomy (Female anatomy) then this drawing would be improved.
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>>3957712
I mean studied and practiced anatomy. Sorry for the confusion.
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>>3957183
I mean studied and practiced anatomy. Sorry for the confusion.
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>>3957689
Yes. I guess you should achieve a good level in realistic anatomy in order to know where to omit and where to not as well. He's a God at "less is more"
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>>3957414
thanks
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I've always wondered how artists got that copic marker like effect when shading clothing folds and hair. Whenever I try to do it, mine ends up looking like pic related on the right...any tips on how I could go about shading like in the pic on the left? I was using CSP with g-pen and the blend tool
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>>3958183
bruah setting markr
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CSP or SAI? I'm not good enough for it to matter yet but I'd rather not waste money
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>>3958252
yar har diggity dee
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>>3958252
csp is better imo.
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>>3958277
I would but since I only torrent anime stuff nowadays I'm not sure which public trackers aren't honeypots
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It frustrates me to no end how hard it's for me to simplify the figure in an atari/manquin.

I'm doing the pin2d torso and I'm having a bit of trouble simplyfing it.
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>>3958183
you're already doing it..
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>>3958287
please.. go back to basics
study some anatomy, read hampton, anatomy for sculptors, watch proko, anything
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>>3958277
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>>3958295
Dude, as I said I'm studying the basics. The mannequin is basic. I just said It's hard for me.
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>>3958301
Also I am not under the delusion I'm good. I suck, just correcting the idea I'm not studying the basics.

I'm planing to start studing hitokaku today.
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>>3958329
>>3958301
my bad then anon. It's painfully /beg/ right now imo doing pin2d right now is too advance for you
Goodluck with your hitokaku studies
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>>3958356
Thanks anon, and also thanks for the reality check.
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>>3958252
If you like having many options to fiddle with in your art programs, CSP. If you like keeping things simple with only whats needed with not many extra options, SAI.
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>>3958287
BTW yeah it's shit and all. But I just wanted to show how I'm actually trying to simplify it in 3d shapes.

And yes I do struggle a lot with this.
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>>3958835
I think if the forearm wasn't bigger than the upper arm it would look better, also the collar bones aren't lengthly enough the shoulder line is just sloping and isn';t forming a curve, I'd like to see you keep improving, anon.
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>>3958856
Thanks a lot for the criticism, it helps a lot. Also nice study!
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>>3958864
Thankyou , and no problem ,anon. Anytime
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It's been a while since i last posted
been busy with comissions and haven't been able to find time to study
Anyways, started doing quick value/rendering studies yesterday and i recommend it. It takes no longer than 30min each and i already learned quite a bit. Not really worried with 1:1 accuracy (might as well just trace the next ones to save time and actually focus more on what i want to learn)
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>>3958183
Layers, man. Layers.
You already understood the technique
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>>3959154
who's the original artist of these?
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What is "point" i see it in a few tutorials and in this book a lot
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>>3958835
notice how the entire collar area doesn't follow the perspective you've set for yourself with the center-line on the rib cage. also notice how the center-line doesn't follow through into the crotch.

when i first started to use simple 3d forms for construction, i found myself ignoring them when it was time to draw on top. the crappier your 3d forms are, the less incentive you have to pay attention to them.
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>>3959239
what point
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>>3959255
Thank you very much for the help! I learned a lot. Sriously, thank you!
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>>3959294
never give up, when you say that power on
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>>3959185
YD on twitter and pixiv.
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>>3959154
our cocks don't deserve this artist.
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look at this guy's eyes i wish i could draw eyes like this
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>>3959576
did you try to? i only started a few day ago and i got decentish results
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>>3959576
Are you retarded? There is literally 2 colors and a shadow in it. At least post something slightly impressive.
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>>3959753
not the colours, i mean the mechanics behind it or whatever. how the pupil is sunk into the eye and the iris looks like a disk. i just find it hard to make the eyeballs look in the same direction let alone all that shit
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>>3959185
yang-do
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>>3959812
Nothing hard in it. Eyeball is not a perfect sphere.
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>>3960026
Not him but what's your point?
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Maybe it'll help someone, this guy has been going through some pose stuff that might inspire some of you

https://twitter.com/0508bk201
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>>3960189
Good find anon

Sharing this one as well. It also had a bunch of pose references like the other anon linked
https://twitter.com/DF_drawing/
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Why do you want to draw anime?
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>>3960416
Because nothing else matters.
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>>3959753
your example looks worse
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>>3960416
Why not
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Why does foregoing construction step entirely gets me more anime look overall?
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>>3960635
I like your rendition better. The slightly thicker outline makes it look like a character from Ghost Trick
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My study of >>3961551
Tried to do it quickly, ended up taking a few hours.
I'm the guy that did the first study in this thread with the girl that looked too western. thoughts? the coloring is sloppy, I kind of intended it, just wanted to crank out a study. I feel I'm getting better at choosing accurate colors.
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>>3961553
>tfw I stop working on it for 10 minutes and look back at it with a clear mind
Y I K E S
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>>3961557
>>3961553
It's alright anon. It doesn't have to be perfect, as long as you go something out of your studies. Just keep practicing
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>>3961573
>go
*got
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>>3961573
thanks anon
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>>3961553
i like her, she looks autistic
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>>3961906
>ywn have a cute autistic nekomimi gf
Why live
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took me a day just to color some stuff while staying inside the lineart
Anyone has some magic clip studio tutorial/workflow tips/tool usage so I can draw faster in general?
The bucket is always awful so I don't even use that
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>>3962233
Bucket works for me. Just make sure your lines are clean and you're filling from the entire image rather than just the current layer
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>>3962328
>>3962233
I don't use clip studio but bucket tools are supposed to have sensitivity settings and also grow when used several times on same area. What's even the issue? Try fiddling with the settings at least
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is the discord any good

any decent artists in it?
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>>3962346
>decent artists
none lol
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>>3962346
>is the discord any good
no, aquapaulo is a cuck
>any decent artists in it?
no
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My first attempt at an anime style. I watched some RossDraws video about portraits and tried to follow along. It looks a bit disney to me, but i think it looks ok. Should i pursue this style more or can it be improved?
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>>3963016
It looks good but its not anime
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>>3963016
there are lots of different styles of anime but even in more realistic styles they are much more simplistic than what you've drawn. one of the key features of an anime art style is using simplified lines to symbolize features. you've gone too far on the facial features which is what makes it look western and not really anime.
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>>3962346
>discord
literally the worst thing to happen to modern communication
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>>3963016
Looks like your typical westerner's attempt at drawing anime.
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>>3960416
I want to draw big anime milf tiddies like that.
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>>3963042
this
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>>3963042
Is RossDraws considered western?
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>>3963054
It looks faux anime so yea
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>>3963054
Honestly you'd have to have seen a total of 0 anime to think this https://www.deviantart.com/rossdraws looks eastern
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>>3963058
I literally do not watch anime so you'd be right.
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>>3963064
No point in drawing anime then. Your style is kinda generic but appealing enough to make FotM fanart/porn if that's what your after.
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>>3962179
>Why live
my life motto

>>3963117
why delete? you know deleted posts are never really deleted right?
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>>3963117
Nose too detailed, lips not small and wide enough
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>>3963016
as general advice, i couldn't tell if you were trying to draw from a top down perspective or frontal. your ears and hairline look like they could be positioned for tilted downwards, but the rest of the face is pretty straight on. also, the neck is too curved. it should be pretty straight until it meets the traps.

>>3963120
>>3963126
yeah i noticed it looked pretty retarded after i posted so i wanted to revisit. i think this is somewhat of a better attempt. i tried to emulate the more realistic end of anime styles because the original poster's style is closer to that. ergo proxy and claymore are two i think of when i think of realistic anime.
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>>3963129
bruh it looks even worse here. youre constructing the eyes and nose wrong.

In this image the eyes are looking the wrong way for the head tilt, the jaw is fucked, the nose is large, weird shaped and looks like those tumblr noses. the hair also doesnt flow properly from a point. Lastly those shoulders..|?
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>>3963129
This one is actually worse. You still haven't fixed how prominent the nose is. It's supposed to be pretty subtle. And why did you make the eyes smaller? The hair's not very anime either
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>>3957183
If you want to learn anime, use solely Japanese tutorials/books/references anon. Otherwise you will end up with "gaijin anime". It is very distinguishable from something you'd find on Pixiv even if it's very polished and high quality. Unless you want to achieve the Western deviantArt anime look (sasuxxx95, Hyanxx-Natxx), don't do it. I advise you to delete anything Western anime related and replace with Japanese. It might seem extreme, but you will notice a change for better very quickly. Good luck
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>>3960635
Got a blog or Twitter? =o
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>>3963016
>>3963042
>>3963129
throwing in my attempt at typical westerner's faux-anime and all that
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>>3963228
looks korean on right
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>>3963233
that occurred to me too as i was drawing... plus it's a fairly kpop hairstyle
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>>3963228
very nice stylizations. The rightmost one looks the most anime/east styled
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I'm a /beg/ but I want to draw cute anime girl. So is it better here than /beg/? In all case I have to practice more my fundies.
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Does anyone have good reference of anime faces from different, extreme angles?
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How do I study to draw like Leiji Matsumoto?
I like Maetel and Queen Esmeralda.
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>>3963616
copy and study the drawings
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>>3963616
read エメラルダス?
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>>3963622
I've only been 'trying' to copy Toriyama artstyle and fail,>>3963583 but it feels I have a harder time to adapt to change to another Japanese artist style.
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>>3963624
Can't read moonspeak, what did you say?
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>>3963626
emerarudasu
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>>3963636
The tag to search on pixiv to find illustration of her?
I guess that's good.
And what about Maetel or Queen Raflesa/Sylvidra in (French)
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>>3963640
there was also a spin off manga with that name, i think it was 4 volumes i have it but idk if its online
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>>3963625
>I've only been 'trying' to copy Toriyama artstyle
ngmi
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>>3963653
But I really like it, I think my problem is just that I've been wanting to focus too much on AT style to focus on anything else, so it feels like a trap and I'm stuck not being able to adapt to another style.
>>3963653
>ngmi
I hate this meme, but you're probably right.
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>>3963656
he means dont try but do. and yeah ngmi isnt a meme, its the reality
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>>3963659
it's a meme to demotivate other artists.
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>>3963656
Your major flaw is copying a style, not trying to learn what the artist knew to make what he did

Having really strong fundamentals allows you to create in whatever style you choose
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>>3963656
toriyama style copying for people usually just means everything looks like a bad dragonball ripoff which millions of latin artists pump out every year
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>>3962822
>>3962917
>>3963030
k cheers
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>>3963132
looks like claymore, source?
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>>3963712
I just really like Dragonball/Dragon Quest designs so I just want to draw that.
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>>3963719
It IS Claymore
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Anno's style leaves me in awe.
How did he learn his anatomy, construction, everything? I need to know.
I can't just study his storyboards.
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>>3963896
he probably drew a lot of sentai anime characters he is a huge sentai otaku after all. so he was probably just drawing what he was seeing on tv.
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>>3957183
Alright, I started to give anon's girl a shot, just for practice.

How is it going so far? what can I improve upon?
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i find it rly difficult to draw hair from the side so i spent so long trying to get it right
anyway does the face on the left read ok?
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>>3964008
i'm more interested in hearing your thoughts about it to be honest
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Any other resources on learning how to color/paint?
There's only one in the pastebin
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>>3964051
not what you asked for, but i think the best advice for you is to not worry about painting right now. painting is 90% drawing anyway
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>>3964051
ctrl paint
>>3964110
idiot
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>>3964124
He's not wrong
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>>3964124
thanks
>>3964110
I wanted to make game assets with hand painted textures as well
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What's the trick to drawing the same thing again while remaining proportionally the same without strain of thought? Whether it be different angles or even the same exact pose. Is it just constant grinding to hone some muscle memory? Would drawing without construction lines make it harder?
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>>3964279
Drawing it a lot of times from different angles, know the overall shape of the object.
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>>3964279
draw it until you can't draw wrong
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>>3957547
>Tfw no one answers dejavu
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>>3964288
you have a bunch of followers on twitter fuck off
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>>3964290
Funny you say that when I don't even have a Twitter, think you have the wrong guy
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>>3957167
toshi's "Improving Character's Life vol.2" book is in Chinese. Would someone have it in Japanese please?
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i cant seem to get mega to work for me, when i click download all as zip it just freezes (on chrome) and tells me it cant dl (on firefox). When i did get it to work the download speed was sub 100kbs and then it stopped altogether. is there a backup on google drive or something?
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>>3964288
You didn't ask anything retard
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>>3957167
What bothers me about this is theyve put an adult proportioned head on a small child's body. It looks so wrong and i see this fairly often in anime art. The jaw/nose is too big and pointy for a young child
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>>3964593
lmao yeah its fucking soulless construction, i hope i never reach this stage in my art
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>>3963233
nah koreans girls have flat soulless eyebrows
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>>3957167
>>3964593
This is just from one Dunning-Kruger to the next so take this with a grain of salt, but it's not only about the size and proportions of the head, the proportions are fucked all around. Her arms are way too short, her torso is way too long and her legs are way too short. Legs should almost never never be shorter than the torso and if you consider the torso to have a height of 4 generic "units" I've found that the legs should generally land anywhere between 5 or 6. Arms + hands will generally be somewhere between 4.5 and 5 units.

Source: I've been studying chibi lolis on twitter all day.
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>>3964673
like korean art, not an actual korean
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As an absolute beginner, would I be better off starting with Fun with a Pencil or Keys to Drawing? I figured I'd ask here since I'll to attempt to draw anime stuff simultaneously
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>>3965064
Keys to Drawing learns you how to measure and how to see things for what they actually are and not what you think they are.
Fun with a Pencil teaches you how to construct figures from imagination by combining different types of shapes.

If you are an "absolute beginner" you should start with Keys to Drawing, but once you feel like you understand measuring and drawing what you see you can move on to Loomis.
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>>3964686
But it looks like partially top-down perspective?
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This is my first time drawing from memory, all I ever did was copy art that I liked for the past few months. I don't know any fundamentals or use tricks or lines or anything.
I just drew what felt right until my eyes didn't cry out in pain. Now I know the hair should be rotated clockwise by a little bit, the ear should be bigger and the nose is in the wrong spot and the right pupil is too big but I can only erase so many times on paper. So.. will I ever make it? And yes the hair looks like shit but I can't remember what hair looks like without a reference.
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>>3964686
to me the proportions seem ok for a child, it's the head that isn't fit for the body. It has the features of an adult on a child body, which is why it looks so jarring. Eyes remain about the same size for the whole life of a person but the head is smaller so they look bigger and lower in the head. Body fat on the chin is also way too low for a child.

I moved the eyes down and made them bigger and I think it looks better now.
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What style you want
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>>3965148
It's not at an extreme enough perspective that it would matter. The horizon line intersects with where their hands meet.
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Studies, but trying to color this time.
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>>3965194
>Studies, but trying to color this time.
your leg thickness swap it. broaden your shoulders or connect th arms properl6
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>>3965159
At least you can tell it doesn't look right... if you study fundies rather than aimlessly copying, you will know how to fix those issues and be consistent with them.
>yes the hair looks like shit but I can't remember what hair looks like without a reference
better to use a reference and make it look right and learn from it than draw blindly knowing you don't know what you're doing. "drawing from memory" should be done to practice your knowledge of fundamentals, if you have no guidelines or direction you can't learn from it
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>>3965163
amazing, you completely fixed it imo
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>>3965208
nah lmao, try connecting the legs to the torso to the upperbody
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>>3965211
hm, i suppose the proportions need some work but the most jarring thing was the face, which definitely looks much better. I'm not the guy who did it btw
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>>3965206
thanks for the advice! Also I kinda wanted to see how far I can go, drawing from memory. I completely gave up when I reached the legs.
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How to draw Shibuya Rin?
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>>3965213
dude the proportions dont line up
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>>3965235
only thing tht stands out is the eyelids and baggy clothes
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>>3965235
>it's the autistic guy again
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>>3965339
are her boobs helium filled?
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What are some of your favorite artists/where do you go to look for new artists to use as reference material?
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>>3965414
favourite artists?

>yoshikadu hamada
>shintaro kago
>yoh yoshinari
>junji ito


where do i go to look for new artists?

>pixiv
>nhentai or tsumino
>manga rock
>sometimes twitter and youtube though rarely
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>>3965417
You forgot exhentai for artist source
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>>3965414
i dont have favorite artist but more art that i like and thats makes me sad. i really wish that a would like an artist to death but i can't most of the time i just like some aspect of the art but not the whole, you feel me?
said that i like:
gambear1er
marklaszlo666
8rabbit
sinix
kai ikarashi
kaneoya sachiko
i have many more but i'll keep just that
>where do you go to look for new artists to use as reference material?
no joke i lurk others favorites on deviantart
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>>3965414
God I love big tits
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>>3965549
who doesn't
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>>3965549
>>3965583
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>>3965069
Thanks anon!
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i love the elegance of old 80's anime drawings
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I've went through Loomis, but I have no idea where to start with anime. There are so many books there. Is there anything like Fun with a Pencil there or should I just move onto specific body parts?
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>>3966036
from the op i did
draw girls
360 degrees
draw oppai
draw pants
draw muscles.

or tt least thts what ive been doing. i week im really have with progress
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Last one probably
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Do most people here even post drawings lmfao.
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>>3957169
Hey! Is that Santa from 999 I see there?!
If so, you have good taste in DS games, it's a little obscure but I think it's better than Danganronpa.
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Just draw
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>>3966595
you didnt make that one and you know it.
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>>3966645
why not?
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>>3966595
Your name isn't kagami_hirotaka lmfao. I doubt he can even speak english.
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Loomis or Huston for drawing heads?
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>>3966079
doesnt look anime desu
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>>3966770
coke or pepsi?
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>>3966770
Flip a coin, both are fine. Take what you learn from whichever and copy anime with it.
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The perspective seems off but I can't tell what's wrong
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>>3966867
is there an original? that might help

anyway i lined her up to what i guessed the background perspective to be
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>>3957167
awful poses and the little girl's head looks like it belongs to an adult.this is just trash.
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my room is so dark
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>>3967065
get a table lamp you dolt
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>>3966927
Thanks, do you have advice on how to do that? I can study figures and backgrounds separately but when it's time to put them together I'm so confused.
Here's the original, but mine turned out pretty different
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I’d love to be able to achieve something like this one day
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Could someone please loomis her head? I'm dumb and can't figure it out.
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>>3967749

The nose's perspective is what makes it tricky,
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Gib crits
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>>3967778
I think you're VERY incorrect on this one.
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>>3967783
nose too small. Legs are too short, he looks like a dwarf
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>>3967793
How so?
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i'm trying a more rendered anime face, any tips?
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>>3967795
I am not an expert either, but I think it's impossible to "Loomis" a head like that because the nose literally isn't in the right place. The nose is typically at the center of the face, but in your redline, the nose isn't at the center, it's off to the side.
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>>3967811

But if I did that the eye sockets wouldn't fit. Eye sockets start from the border of the eyes.
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>>3967811
So is loomis useless for anime then?
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>>3967823
It's not useless. The nose is literally the only thing different that doesn't fit a traditional loomis head..
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>>3967806
western shit
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>>3967749
Post the whole image and I'll take a shot of redlining it
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>>3967749
I tried
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>>3967811
>>3967823
Loomis is not useless, and its not impossible to loomis the head. the nose is just stylized, the position still can be constructed with loomis. its still at the center of the face, you are looking at her from the side so obviously the nose is on the side
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I'm stuck lol
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Could you, you, you, you, or you show me how to draw Shibuya Rin?
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>>3967916
>Shibuya Rin
Ravaged and plundered and ripped her and bit her. Stuck her with knives in the side of the dawn and tied her with fences and dragged her down.
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>>3967916
Shush it autist
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Who is this autist anyway?
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>>3967916
based
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When do we get to draw Oboro?
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>>3967916
I'll show you how to draw sachiko
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>>3967287
i essentially did a bit of drafting using formal linear perspective for a little while. after that, it really improved my handle on form and seeing vanishing points all over the place in real life. it comes down to understanding relationship of the station point (position of the camera) with all the other perspective landmarks. anyway, that experience provided me the tools for perspective problem solving, and it also improved my free hand perspective (which is really the goal). i practically never do formal drafting anymore. i mostly learned from eric olson's nma lectures, and a little bit from scott robertson's book

that aside, it's a good copy. i think you've captured the appeal of the original image quite well. i would really only do anime copies for attempting to replicate style and appeal. i don't think it's a good idea to focus on perspective unless you know the artist has a really good handle on it.

>>3967749
this style of anime doesn't really follow the loomis proportional guide (thirds: brow, nose, chin). i would deconstruct the anime proportions and relationships if you want to replicate this style. i'm not saying that you can't use loomis to draw anime, but rather that you have to take the loomis lessons on form & construction, and adapt it to anime proportions

pls gib full image btw
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>>3968120
BLOGGGGG
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>>3968128
sorry, between wagecucking, grinding fundies, and learning moonrunes i haven't worked up any sort of online presence yet. maybe i should use the time i spend on here shilling hitokaku and doing redlines to manage a twitter instead... anyway i'm just a big pussy, but thanks for asking
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>>3968120
Good post. No one should view Loomis' textbook head drawing method as the "best" way to draw heads, and I'm pretty sure he says that at some point. The point of much of his teachings is to show you how to break down what you see to using construction lines to understand form and proportions, which everyone does in some form or another.
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>>3966676
>>3966595
proof that you did it please?
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>>3968183
It was for encouragement
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make sure to draw Ingrid.
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>>3967806
Watch more anime nigga, unless you're trying to be another sakimichan copy
Reduce the focus on the nose, more on the eyes
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>>3967806
Watch more anime nigga, unless you're trying to be another sakimichan copy
Reduce the focus on the nose, more on the eyes
>>3968290
Wrong image derp
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>>3968304
And look at this one, more closer to your aesthetic, see what's different
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>>3968120
>i mostly learned from eric olson's nma lectures
Aren't these way overkill for what most people are trying to accomplish here?
I often heard mixed opinions about this one.
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>>3968354
yeah it's a long series of videos (i watched it at like 1.5x speed and skipped 1/3rd of the videos) plus you have to draw along to really retain the information. but yeah, whether or not it's overkill depends on the level of competence you're aiming for. i wasn't comfortable with having a murky understanding of perspective, so i made the investment, and it gave me what i wanted: tools to solve perspective problems
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>>3968318
the mismatch between drawing skill and rendering skill is insane... anon... this image... why did you save such a cursed image?
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>>3968318
oh god that thigh
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>>3968135
What book is that from?
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>>3957167
Hey, I would like some critics and some redlines, also I dont know what to do with their respective missing arms. suggestions please.
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What did I get wrong? I'm putting the reference I used in the next post
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>>3968656
The reference is >>3959185
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anyone got a link for painttoolsai, or am i better off just sticking with krita?
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>>3969079
whatever works for you

a lot of people use diferent software like photoshop, krita, sai, clip studio or even paint
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>>3969145
its probably through my own issue but i cant get the brushes in krita to look good, even with smoothing
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>>3969079
There's download in mega link in /v/ drawthread
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All I ever do these days is try to copy pictures of qts on Pixiv and 4chan. I can't think of anything interesting to draw on my own. and all i care about is drawing anime girls as depressing as that sounds. Even shittier, if I even attempt to draw an OC of mine the result looks even more trash without any reference to look at while drawing it.

I'm not sure what im supposed to do. I just have no creativity. I dont think you can help with that. But should i keep grinding Pixiv faces every day or should I study how to color or something else?

I just have no direction anymore..
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Do you want us to inspire you or something? If you don't want to draw, then don't. I don't know what to tell you
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>>3969628
Meant for
>>3969624
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>>3969628
>If you don't want to draw, then don't.

not sure how you read that i dont want to draw from that. But I've never posted on here before so i'm sure im shit at conveying what I'm asking.

I love drawing, but I just have no direction on how to improve further. Was just hoping to discuss how others may have overcome this feeling or something.
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>>3969645
Same feeling bro, I can draw ok using reference but I simply lack the skill to fully render a drawing. (I can greyscale render tho)
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>>3969645
just do what you enjoy man, who cares. I say that with love. if you dont like grinding pixiv faces or you arent improving from them, then stop and do something else. focus on something specific to get better at and stick with it. at the end of the day we're all here to enjoy art and cute anime girls. i think the ends justify the means to an extent
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>>3969647
How long have you been drawing to improve yourself? Maybe this stage is just typical as an evolving skill.

She came out really cute btw. What tool/brush do you favor when sketching?

>>3969653
yeah, you're right. I don't know why i needed someone to tell me that but I actually do feel better thinking that way. I don't even have a desire to share my art to get popular or anything. I just draw for myself. Not sure who I'm worrying about impressing so much. I'm just gonna relax a bit. I'm just really tense today after some bad drawings.
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>>3969660
https://www.deviantart.com/artprogess
5 months it says. I just use a light pencil for the sketching.
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>>3969672
Holy shit, thats quite an improvement. I've been going at it for 2 years now. Keep at it dude!
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>>3969653
>here to enjoy art and cute anime girls
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>>3969672
>16
GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY BOARD YOU FAG
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>>3969672
>>3969760
>birthday
>2002
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>>3969624
You can't just copy if you want to eventually learn to draw from imagination, you have to practice drawing from memory too. While you do your copies think about things like facial proportions and stylistic features. After copying those faces try redrawing them without looking at the references, trying to remember the major points. This should help you start drawing your OCs without reference. Once you can draw simple anime faces from imagination you should have more motivation and confidence, so start studying anatomy and other fundamentals so you can draw more than just faces from that angle.
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>>3969780
This. Also watch Proko's "Becoming a Gi" video about KJG - Kim himself outlines the most important fundamentals to practice to draw like him.
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>>3969758
Kyoot
The far eye seems a bit wonky, maybe too high
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>>3969909
thanks! yeah you're right about the eye, i see it now. i went back and touched it up a bit, maybe this is better?
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>>3968439
>>3968419
Yeah no shit. If I want to say something about anatomy I'd post a more appropriate image but the dude's in need of faces that matches his aesthetic so I posted that.
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>>3969929
>i-i-know it's bad
yeah but why did you save it...? anyway it's all in jest, no one's giving you a hard time, anon
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>>3969931
It has a decent render tho so I can't blame anon
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>>3969927
definitely better
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I tried doing a head from imagination and imitating artists on pixiv streams. It's very bad, but some critique would be nice to make it look better.
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hello where is the pubic hair at
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>>3969996
i would construct the eyes properly before heading into detail. break it down into a basic shape so you can mirror it. and then you can mirror it in perspective. details can be added later when it looks like things are in the right place.

another thing that stood out to me is the head -> neck connection. one tip is to remember that there's a muscle (sternocleidomastoid) that runs from the bottom of the ear into the meeting of the collarbones.

>>3970016
beat me to it :P
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>>3969624
Is this picture a copy or from imagination? If it is a copy and assuming it's not the reference that is poor, you need to get better at copying. Copying is a pointless exercise if you don't do it properly and actually try to gauge shapes, proportions and the underlying structure of the reference.
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>>3969996
Neck too long and not straight enough
Also why does she have feathers for hair?
Either way your feathers are pretty nice, consider drawing some wings
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>>3969927
>that hat
based
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hey /asg/

A couple of months back, somebody posted a link to a Japanese online manga school. It had a similar subscription model to Pencil Kings etc, where you pay $20 or $30 each month, and can stream as many courses as you want. The twist was that all the teachers were Japanese, but the videos came with English subtitles. You know, like, schoolism for weebs.

I bookmarked it back then, but I think I deleted the folder the bookmark was in.

All I can remember is that the website had something like a teal and orange color scheme... or there was orange in the name? I'd like to sign up for a short while as I want to up my manga skill a little, but mainly because I want to listen to Japanese people talk about drawing for my Japanese language study.

Thanks guys & gals, I really appreciate it.
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>>3971007

Wow, 2 mins after posting, I actually tracked it down.

https://www.mikanschool.org/

mikan is the japanese for orange, so I was on the right track

wham bam thank you mam

thanks 4chan
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>>3971007
>>3971013
Don't waste your time. I watched the pirated videos. They are all shit.

Just get NMA
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>>3971014

I'm sure NMA et al are of astronomically higher quality. I was just hoping for a little manga specific advice and some Japanese native audio for listening practice. I'd probably just sign up for a month. Unless, you know, I stumbled upon a dodgy link somewhere.

But thank you for your concern for my wellbeing, anon. I do want to try NMA at some point.
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>>3971016
I get what you mean. But you won't get that there. Trust me. I saw the videos.

They are really really bad.
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>>3971019

OK, I'll hold onto those 25 bucks then
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>>3971020
try them if you want anon. But I don't recommend them.

one of them was a an american black guy ranting and just telling you to get hampton and loomis (yes that was the video)

The inking one is the more decent one(one or 2 good tips)... but there are far better in youtube

The "painting lesson" is a glorified watch me draw

The anime one is just a storyboard lesson with zero info on how to improve

I tried them for free and I still feel scammed of my time
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I'm not really sure how to translate soft edges into cel.
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>>3971038
fix that nose @nd smaller mouth
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>>3971040
Noting the mouth, but what's wrong with the nose?
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>>3971048
hilites never done like that and its so fat. its a tumblr tier mistake
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>>3968483
have them hold hands but stretched, like as if they were grabbing someone's balls
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>>3971014
Seconding this. The fundamentals course wasn't Japanese and you'd learn better from fucking English language books that they crib from anyway like Loomis/Huston/Vilppu/Hampton. I saw 2 of the other courses and they were garbage. Only thing I learned was turning off pressure sensitivity for inking and the start/end feature which tapers your pen in CSP. Fundies are fundies and Japs learn from who do it the best: Western books.
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There was an attempt made.
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>>3971320
Not bad. Keep going you have potential.
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>>3971324
Thanks anon that makes me feel good about myself. Normally I don't feel good when I do art. This means a lot.
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>soul vs soulless
How do I get better at rendering/coloring? I've been stuck at the same skill level for the last 3-4 months i feel like
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>>3971572
Don't polish turds. Simple. Don't like how the painting is looking? Start again. You'll go mad doing it, but your work will be great.
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>>3971820
>Don't like how the painting is looking? Start again
I would if it didn't take me 8+ hours only to color something, painting inside thin lineart is driving me up the walls.
Anyways guess i'll try and paint some heads or small objects multiple times and go from there
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>>3971572
stop opening your hand with kan and chii, nyagger.

drawing from life helps a lot, photo studies, seeing how materials work. find artists you want to paint like and study from them. turn the images black and white and make it read in greyscale so you can learn how they handle edges. honestly drop the soft brush altogether for a while and only work in opaque so you can work on designing better shapes. a lot of eastern art you see is going to be just cel-shaded. better shapes will carry your painting, not how smooth you can blend gradients. limit yourself to something like a 70% hard round for skin and that's it. practice good shapes (and those hands) and then worry about rendering
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Thoughts?
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>>3972066
bucket + clipping layer. no need to tediously paint inside the lines.
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How do you construct anime profiles?
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>>3972516
look at bridgman, huston, and loomis. once you spot the construction shape it's easy to abstract away and notice on even the most subtle anime shit. after the nose it's philtrum, upper lip, top of lower lip, front of lower lip, recedes under lip, goes out again to point of chin and back under. hope this helps, stuck with mouse for now. but it works for any person and doing anime or not, all that matters is playing with proportions.



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