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Previous: >>3958217

What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
Hitokaku Index
>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #art
>yoshikadu2011 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUx5dpO6d5gQ4KWNPc24CKw
FellowBro's Book Collection
>http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
Tutorial & Reference Collection
>http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
Japanese Tutorials & Documentary
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317 (0033)
>http://iradukai.com/
References
>http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos2.html
>http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
>http://senshistock.com/sketch/
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Dog.
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>>3962187
why use that cringey kana for a westerner drawing? Or did you srsly think someone would fall for it lmao
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>>3962198
What was the giveaway that it was a tryhard westerner? The face?
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Man's fuck buddy
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forgive me
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>>3962211
cute Koishi anon. I always like to see touhou pics on /ic/.
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Dog sperms are good for young girls!
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>>3962187
I like the shine on the axe
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>>3962182
Photoshop
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>>3962191
based
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>>3962191
woof :)
>>3962206
anon is paranoid, 気にするな
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Hello everyone.
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>>3962292
hi john c reilly
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>>3962225
based and dogpilled
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Missed the replies RE botegirls last thread. I don't really post them anywhere outside of IRC and maybe pixiv now and again.

And yeah, I'm trying to get better at fluid posing, but honestly I've never been able to manage what I would consider to be acceptable results. I've basically just settled with "doesn't look like anus."
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How do I make it look like she's wearing pants without adding color?
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>>3962404
My advice is to loosen up your hand with quicksketch exercises. Observe your subject and get a feel for the motion or the natual rhythms of the forms. Stretch by ghosting some circles over the page, to get that energy going.

Now, keeping your pencil to the page of stylus to the screen, begin with the chest, stomach or hips and work your way from there. Don't worry too much about the head, hands, or feet; just the movement of the figure.

A typical quick sketch session will last you anywhere from an hour to two hours, with a class session usually around three.

Given most gesture drawings start off at 30 seconds, move to 90/two minute, a couple of five minute exercises, then cap off with a ten minute figure drawing, you'll be drawing anywhere between 150 to 300 drawings per session. Just do this everyday for about three weeks, then do a short session everyday with maybe two or three times a week afterwards. You will drastically improve your dexterity and eye for gesture.

There are some little things that can help out significantly. You could try getting looser with your sketch tools, and draw from the shoulder as opposed to the wrist. Hold the pencil higher, erase less often, and don't be afraid to exaggerate the curves of they fit the character.

It still feels awkward as heck to me, and I've been at this seriously for about two years, but I promise you it pays off.

Athletes are great subjects to help build a visual library for dynamic poses. I've been studying the techniques of lot of MMA fighters and boxers from videos, both old and new, but sports magazines and Quickposes.com have also been helpful with gestures and reference material.

Let me know if you have any more questions.
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>>3962461
adding details, like pockets or sewing stitches
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>>3962461
you can't actually be serious with this shit
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Yea or nay? I may add more detail, it's just a little doodle that I blew up
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>>3962479
Are those supposed to be really big lips? If so they don't really read that way--it kind of looks like she just has part of her face painted a different color.
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>>3962465
I appreciate it. Drawing practice similar to how you described used to be a part of my daily regimen when I was taking my required art credits for college (two technical drawing classes which focused more on how to properly use tools more than anything else), but I have to admit that I fell out of the habit.

It's a known issue that people who lack the fundamental knowledge to actually draw something correctly end up being obsessed over details when they should really be mastering the basics first. The technical drawing classes focused on nothing -but- the details, so I think I've fallen into that trap for a while.
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>>3962479
tap tap
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>>3962215
thanks : )
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>>3962494
Luchador mask?
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>>3962461
huge downgrade from giant loli fag. I miss him.
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>>3962461
oh i hate this
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>>3962472
Thanks for the help.

>>3962478
>>3962535
>>3962543
Thanks for the motivation.
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some half assed ideas
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>>3962521
Fuck cant unsee as luchador mask
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>>3962461
draw a clothing fold or stitching
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EVERYTHIGNS FLAT
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>>3962494
Yeah, I can see what you mean
>>3962521
You got me
>>3962508
I could make it look a bit more like she is walking, it was more just an afterthought though

Thanks for the feedback
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>>3962191
wan wan
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>>3962643
>>3962461

Porn Thread
>>3958559
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>>3962696
>naked figure is porn
fine.
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>>3962696
woof woof
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>>3962703
>erect penis and implicating a lewd context through pose with nothing else in the picture showing anything of real significance
>not porn

you need to go outside and breathe some fresh air anon.
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>>3962729
You need to stop shilling the idea that the human body is disgusting, fucking HBO soccer mom tier dildo.
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>>3962730
fuck off dick brain
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>>3962730
the argument was whether it was porn or not, not whether the human body is or isn't disgusting. There really isn't much for debate here, we have a porn thread for a reason.
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>>3962733
>>3962732
You're scared
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>>3962736
no u
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>>3962733
but no one actually gives critique in the porn thread
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>>3962744
>"hey this picture could really use some input, I'd appreciate any critiques"
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>>3962744

The porn threads used to have some very solid critiquers. After those were purged due to a group of trolls killing for everyone else (doxxing people in the process), everything flooded into /alt and the other generals. With enough time, the porn threads will start providing critiques again.

If you are concerned about what I shared, it may be within your best interest to seek greener pastures.
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>>3962187
How do I make the interaction between her hands and cape more believable?
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>>3962760
>After those were purged due to a group of trolls killing for everyone else (doxxing people in the process)

pls explain
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Skree Ranger with breather
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>>3962764
Weight nigga.
Why the cape go around instead of straight down?
Feel the gravity anon
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>>3962805
>Feel the gravity anon
calm down zarya
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>>3962729
>it's the tranny again
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i have to pee like a horse that has to pee really badly
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>>3962187
I didn't know you're the OP maker of these threads
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>>3963020
can you do it in my mouth, ok thanks
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>>3962461
Colored cause fuck it.
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Further refined the thing I put up in the old "Post your characters" thread, where I said this was for a BL webcomic I seek to create someday Soon [TM].

Current challenges:
>Proportion and anatomy check
>Need to design brown dude's electro-shock glove thing
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Series I've been working on here and there the past month.
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>>3963641
Forgot the pic. Fuck me.
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anyone know what the significance of this muscle is?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmaris_longus_muscle
some anons were talking about it in the last thread but the link says it's vestigial so i dont know what use it is to an artist
>>3963020
give me your blog nig
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>>3962479
very cool, blog?
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This looks like the perfect thread instead of making one

How do I create a character design that allows my character to be memorable? I'm in the middle of making my game, and I want my character to have their look stamped on to several things and to be recognizable, for example, a silhouette for a title, or button, an outline for easter eggs, etc

I'm trying to go for simple, so Mickey Mouse, or Felix, Astro Boy, Sonic, etc. How do I mold simple shapes into something that catches the eye?

I guess this would also be a question of how to make something cute
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>>3963724
>anyone know what the significance of this muscle is?
lurk more you sparkless nitwit
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>>3963758
post your wrist
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>>3962819
animate it faggot >:c
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>>3963887
woof woof
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Do you all have your drawing tablets directly in line with your monitor?
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>>3963615
Holy air brush.
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>mfw a roastie posts in /alt/
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>>3963615
Despite its flaws, I still think its cute anon. It has a certain charm to it.
Don't let all the negative feedback get to you and just use this as a learning experience.
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>>3963753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZluGXgpdJj4
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>>3964044
We'll get rid of them soon woof woof
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What is this kind of drawing called? Where's it's all dynamic and shit
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I know this is probably funky but it's a nice start from only drawing Polenbolls for like 2 months and not drawing for a month
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Why is it so hard to find good photo references for twinky male bodies
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>>3964073
does that pic even have any perspective in it besides the rocks pointing in different directions?
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>>3964100
I thought the pic was supposed to be a negative example t b q h
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>>3964104
show us a good one then
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>>3964105
I didn't intend that as an insult or anything, that was just how the image came off to me because I didn't really see any perspective work in the OP image, but alright. Perhaps something like this?
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>>3964073
>garchomp
>not houndoom
dropped
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>>3964113
It doesn't always have to be about eating ass
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>>3964089
If you're going to draw males at least make them look like males and not trannies, faggot
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>>3964141
based and redpilled
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>>3964141
fucking based
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>>3964073
>like this
>>3964141
Based
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>>3964141
based
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>>3964141
Based
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>>3964050
thank you, this was a good watch and I'm checking out his other videos
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>>3964109
>>3964073
Idk what you're looking for here, but I guess what the caption means is that getting a handle on perspective can give you room for having action stand out
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>>3963643
p fuckin neato
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>>3964141
these all sounds so samefaggy
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Can I get a handy pretty please?
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>>3964343
how the hell are you expecting to improve your drawings if you can hardly see them yourself
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>>3964529
Fuck off roastie.
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>>3962232
It's pretty nice my friend
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>>3964512
Penis not attached to body
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Light erotic acceptable? Or i should go to porn thread?
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>>3964572
/ic/ is a red board and you can post porn illustration in /alt/ if you should feel like it. There are some individuals that try to order people to go to the porn thread and while going there might be fitting if you're drawing hardcore porn, it's not like you must.

I think you should try to clean up the lines on those drawings, maybe make a new layer on top and try to do solid, confident lines
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>>3964579
> I think you should try to clean up the lines on those drawings, maybe make a new layer on top and try to do solid, confident lines

Oh, they're pretty dirty, but i think that normal for for fast sketches...
>>3964587
Oh...
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>>3964587
I'm honestly curious what goes on through these people's heads when they're well aware there is a porn thread yet decided instead to go to another thread. Is 4chan just really that contrarian?
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>>3964587
I didn't say that /ic/ should be a porn board.

>we already have several boards for it and they dont add much to discuss
You mean porn overall doesn't add much to discuss? That's a different issue and your opinion doesn't really matter because the rules of this board say otherwise.

Trying to force people into pens for drawing porn like you people are doing is just the first step, later you'll start demanding that all sexually suggestive stuff is quarantined into one thread or removed from the board. Going by the way you type it's probably better if you're removed.

>>3964597
It's normal but it's better if they're solid, much nicer to look at.
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>>3964609
> if they're solid
I just trying myself at different poses, and my solid line looks much worse, cause i'm newbie.
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>>3964141
Based
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>>3964636
>The way you contradict yourself is stunning.
I'm not contradicting myself. He put words in my mouth, asking me why /ic/ should be turned into a porn board. That carries implications that I am not arguing for.

>So yes, into those pens that work goes.
No, it doesn't.

>and if the community [...]
Yeah, if.

>If the community wishes for [...]
Sure, but there's no widespread support.

>we ask that [...]
Because there is no widespread support for this kind of conservatism on /ic/ board, you shouldn't present yourself as "we", "us" etc

>/ic
>cheesecake
You are definitely not "we", you are not even an anon from this place.
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>>3964713
There was no bestiality in the last thread, and the word "pedophilia" doesn't really hold any other meaning than "this looks too young and perverted for my tastes" on /ic/.

You people are the types that set threads on fire because you can't accept that people post things you don't enjoy. You conveniently take these examples of (your own) past outrage and use it as a reason to order people around. If you were actually worried about trolling and doxxing you'd be on /q/ and mailing Hiro calling for stricter moderation of /ic/.

Go and make a "cheesecake" thread and see if "your" community starts posting in it.
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>>3964741
Wait /q/'s gone? Whoops
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Did you guys when this retarded cuz I say'd "give me a handy"?
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>>3964713
If you allow porn of a platform, the quality of the platform as a whole goes down dramatically because pornfags are braindead subhumans, and eventually the platform just becomes /d/.
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>>3964776
I thought it would be funny, didn't realize it would make people lose their minds
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finished, I think

initial design wasnt great so still cant get rid of bad thumbnail syndrome
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>>3964798
>doesn't know the difference between boards, threads and sets
>"/ic"
>"degeneracy"
>"predatory BS"
>"I have reported the images multiple times. I will contact them later"
>"I don't care for /q"
>reddit spacing
Just lurk or return to Reddit brah
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>>3964813
>That is all we ask of you.
No it's not all you ask. And you're not "we".
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>>3964825
I think the silent majority doesn't really care since this is 4chan. Puritans of /ic/ are a loud minority as far as I believe. It'd be nice with real statistics though.
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>>3964798
>sees mannequin
>shotacon! OUTRAGEOUS!
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http://www.strawpoll.me/18136245
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>porn artists actually post work, get critique
>this schizo redditor shits up the threads with their (probably a her!) whining about "NO NSFW ON A RED BOARD NO NO NO!!!", no critique is posted, waste of posts and air
i'm a prude but this really makes me think
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woof :3
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>>3964882
Out of curiosity, what is it that you want to happen? Are anime ladies to drawn only fully clothed here? Or is it ok to have a naked character as long as the nipples and genitals are censored? What about studies? Who determines the intent of a drawing to be porn?
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>130 posts
>Less than 30 consist of actual art
Can people stop shitposting and fighting and actually post some art or critique? There have always been a little smut and erotic art in these threads, who cares? If you don't like it hide the post and move on.

>>3964597
I think you'd want to work on your anatomy and do more figure drawing. You exaggerated that S-curve of the back a lot more than it needed to be
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>>3964825
As someone who has been on this site for ten years now. Degeneracy and moral outrage are as normal as breathing air. The only type that has always and will forever be discouraged is Furries and their eternal faggotry.
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>>3964937
>post some art or critique?
We would love to, but my work would only incite more feelings getting hurt. It even got deleted in the porn general which is supposed to be a containment thread to prevent these snowflakes from getting buttmangled and cause a board wide temper tantrum.
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>>3964960
this board is in an eternal state of temper tantrum
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>>3964993
Kekeke this is a joke right ?
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>>3964993
I don't even draw porn and yet I cringed
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>>3964993
Imagine taking this shit this seriously. You are one sad little person.
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>>3964993
>>3965008
GO OUTSIDE
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>>3965112
Why?
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>>3964993
huge yikes
i cant imagine hating seeing a naked body so much that you'd want to ban nudity in a space devoted to learning to draw.
you know, tumblr exists. they banned porn, why dont you go there if it bothers you that much?
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>>3965114
we need the mods to come out of their caves as they do every 100 years and give us a good public shaming of this guy this is getting ridiculous
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>>3965114
porn isn't just nudity and you know it very well, you fucking subhuman. porn isn't even erotica, it's porn.
The fact that you people are so addicted to pornography that you can't even understand this is so sad
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>>3965156
>>3965187
I know that all nudity isn't porn but what one person sees as erotic isn't the same as everyone else. Like foot fetish art. It might not be genitals on screen but it's still porn and you two want to take on the role as judge of what porn is. When does a drawing of a person go from acceptable to provocative? That is the line you want to define and I don't think that's your place. It's a nsfw board, nsfw things will get posted and the entire point is that there is the freedom to do so.
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>>3965214
It's not their place and the redditor that tells us he's going to contact 4chan administration isn't going to accomplish shit. Completely delusional.
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So, how do you know when to start a blog? getting past the first 100 followers and all those things
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>>3965238
Claim to have a hole in between your legs and the rest of the world will start catering to you.
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>>3965156
you call us porn addicts but the only person who's actually seing porn everywhere it's you

of course fetishes and genitals are asociated normally with sex, but on this times there are people getting turned on by anime girls with shoes on their hands, you want to banned that too?
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>>3965248
hi sycra!
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>>3965248
why she have prototype arm
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I PLAY POKEMON GO EVERY DAY
I PLAY POKEMON GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>3965262
leave this board and go back to watching jordan peterson lectures
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>>3965262
>Watching porn is digital voyeurism and you cuck yourself by watching a man have sex with a woman.
Holy shit, please get laid.
>reducing women from mother and daughters into nothing more than toys by violent pieces of shit.
Uh, maybe don't pigeon hole women into only the roles of mothers and daughters? Plenty of women enjoy sexual acts, they're people. If the thought of a women in a sexual situation makes you panic because that's someone's daughter then you might have bigger problems. Wanting to keep people from drawing anime tits on an anonymous message board isn't going to protect 'mothers and daughters from violent pieces of shit'.
Go volunteer at a women's shelter rather than whine about drawings of people doing fake things
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>>3964993
>effort to turn 4chan from a NSFW board to SFW
>muh voices
It's called 4channel you tranny. Go to /co/ drawthreads if you dont want your shit associated here.
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>>3964993
Hahahaha what a fucking joke
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>>3964993
>I'm gonna contact the manager of this establishment!
lmao get a load of this tranny
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>>3965262
>reducing women from mother and daughters into nothing more than toys by violent pieces of shit.
lmao what a joke. As a whamen who draws /y/ fujoshit, we just do equally same degenerate shit there. You're just making a fool of yourself while you whine your tranny cunt here. Go back to 4channel if icky ewwie peepees gross you out.
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>>3965262
>There is a fine line between rendering what nature gave us on a canvas and depicting it engaging in degrading acts, reducing women from mother and daughters into nothing more than toys by violent pieces of shit.
as a yurifag, my end goal is indeed art featuring women and daughters engaging in hardcore violent lesbian sex acts and abuse.
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>>3965262


ok everybody let's back to work, anon will not accomplish anything anyway
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>>3965437
>>3965440
You're that sperg that keeps avatarfagging with your shitty meme paintings of reaction images and keeps posting a wall of autism aren't you? Take your fucking meds.
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And another sketches...
>>3964937
Oh, i just trying to do pose more expressive.
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gib crits nao
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>>3965366
yeah ok

>>3964797
her upper half is very masculine. the torso and breasts look more like pecs than boobs and her clavicle is too high. I think pulling the whole imagedown a bit would help it look less stretched over all
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>>3965440
First and only time I'll ever post my art on /ic/, just to call anon a faggot. (feel free to critique it, just initial sketch, still fixing shit and gonna clean it later, but whatever.)

but yes, i am a gay. and my dream is to draw other gays with their gay daughters bullying and abusing other maybe gay girls. the porn part is secondary, but eh its fun on occasion.

that was a great story and all, but what's fun is fun.
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>>3965437
>Good. They are free to dwell their own containment zones.
naw I like posting here, better get used to it tranny
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>>3965449
Rule of thumb.
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this is the sum of my day, finally adapted a way to draw anthro heads that is simple and good
you can see i have a flawed understanding of anatomy. any recommendation for what body parts to study?
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>>3965448
Thanks for the crit. in my defense she is a really tall character. In fact I feel like I made her arms a bit too short relative to the rest of it.

but I'll see what I can do about her upper body.
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>>3965456
Being gay is great though. Only some type of lala prancing homofaggot would think being gay is bad.
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>>3965481
Ah I see, maybe you can keep the original dimensions but yes, the original arms were too short proportionally. I think the thighs being so wide and then tapering immediately to thin legs is throwing things off and making her look shorter.
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Who do you think you are
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>>3965493
maybe we'll just let more /beg/s and /porn/s in here. The more the merrier amiright?
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>>3965493
Pyw you retard
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>>3965493
>I'm a draftsman and character animator, who's trying to get better and rendering and backgrounds.
Care to share?
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>>3965493
>no understanding
>complete mess
>basic

You know, you being a retard aside, this is actually a good example of all the ways useless critiques are made on /ic/.
>beg [hyperbole][fundamental][vague spewing of word diarrhea]
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>>3965515
i think his critiques are useful, told everyone what was wrong with their piece. even if you think his complaints are hyperbolic it gives insight into what the weakest/least appealing parts of the drawings are
what i would call a useless critique (not really a critique at all tho) would be if all he said was "/beg/"
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>>3964141
based
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>>3965449
how about you learn to draw with no or low stablization for starter..
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>>3965539
don't feed his ego especially when he hasn't posted work you fucking tard
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>>3965559
regardless of "ego" i found his direction useful. i had a query and he answered it. you should worry less about ego, especially if you're inclined to tell people pyw
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>>3965564
If you must know, the sperg you've been arguing with is the one that got featured on the OP ITT.
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>>3965535
>I got a rough draft this thread. See if you can find it.
Just link it, you coward. What, are you afraid your stuff isn't going to be up to snuff and people will call your shit? If you were confident in your work's quality you wouldn't be playing these games.
>If I redline it, they will trace it. They have no understanding of form, anatomy, or perspective. They only copy the contours of other drawings or reiterate those copies from memory.
Or maybe they'll see specifically what areas they fucked up in and how they can improve, and will be able to apply that knowledge to future art and improve their understanding, and grow as artists. Or maybe you just can't do a decent redline and are afraid of people calling you Dunning-Kruger while you tear other artists down. Either way, stop being such a pussy and post your work, a redline like >>3965448 isn't great, but it's doing a lot more to help than you are.
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>>3965572
not impressed
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>>3965572
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
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>>3965577
you're >>3964128 ? geez louise
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>>3965577
You've replied to someone asking if you were the creator of these threads when somebody addressed the OP image, and seeing how incredibly defensive you are in this thread one can conclude that you're the try hard westaboo faggot with moonrunes in their filenames.
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>>3965577
>>>3916858
YOU're the one who is posting in the wrong thread, faggot. Why don't you impose your muslim censorship ideals on THAT thread instead?
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>>3965591
kek
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>>3965599
you got a place where you post your animations? i want to start animating at some point. how long have you been doing it?
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>>3965599
stop being mean
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>>3965599
You're in the wrong thread. Please keep animation out of the regular draw threads and in the Animation General where it belongs.
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>>3965599
doesnt look like eastern/western stylization. looks like it belongs in the animation thread
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>>3965599
>>3964128
If you're gonna put a argument here. At least post a finished work, not some half assed garbage. Opinion discarded
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>>3965493
gesture comes first
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For fucking once mods are not fags.
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plseae like and sukbscribe
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>>3965639
The glasses and ponytail makes her extra cute

>>3965635
based fuckin mods
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thank fucking christ
that guy's an autistic redditor
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>>3965635
>Even the animation got deleted
Based
>>3965639
I'm not into horsedick but she's a qt and I like your linework and style
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>>3965639
very cute
i think her head/neck is a bit far to the left in relation to her waist, makes her spine look a little broken. love your shapes, the whole head especially
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>>3965639
So your a mod
Okay
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>>3963643
underrated post!
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What a shitshow lol
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Silly question but, do you guys think it's possible to be a decent cartoonist without going for the realistic phase in depth? Obviously having learnt fundamentals (form, composition, shade, perspective, etc.) first.
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>>3965808
There's no difference. Realistic or cartoon, both require the same understanding of fundamentals. Check out Famous Artists Cartoon Course.
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>>3965539
The problem with critiques like that is because of the generalness and hyperbole, you could slap it on any critique and "technically" you're still right.
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>>3965808
i don't get the image, is it because she is showing skin?
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>>3965539
Hyperbole is bad because it immediately makes the reciever ignore you. A common one is "no anatomy" everyone on /ic/ needs to work on anatomy with varying levels of skill. But by saying they have literally 0 knowledge is going to put everyone on the defensive because they did put some level of knowledge into it. So they're going to immediately be skeptical or hostile of everything else in the critique.
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good fucking riddance on that redditor faggot
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>>3964960
Stop being a baby jesus christ. Just ignore the faggot.
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jesus christ what happened here
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Kitark Cruiser
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>>3965449
Can you faggots kill yourselfs? I come to /ic/ to avoid faggotry from tumblr/twitter. Go jerk off in discords with your mediocre art.
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>>3965833
She forgot to wear her panties and marched in a marching band where you generally kick your feet way up, showing her cooch to half the city
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reworking old designs.
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The Supreme Patriarch of the Ordos assembly
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>>3966039
What a cute niglet.
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>>3966033
i can't get enough of this shit
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>>3965946
>I come to /ic/ to avoid faggotry
Anon...
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>>3966033
are you the dwarf fortress anon?
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>>3965946
Imagine being actively angry because someone doesn't meet your imaginary standard of skill on an anonymous image board meant for learning.
>>3965449
It's pretty /beg/ tier anon but I think it's cute! Keep at it. It's nice seeing people branch out beyond a single girl floating on a white background.
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>>3964141
fucken based
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>>3965946
>trying to avoid faggotry on a board full of trannies and crossdressers who draw trap porn

lol
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What's your style?
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>>3966334
I don't have a style
I just have a lack of skill
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>>3966334
>imagine improving this little over 2 years
jesus christ why would you even post this. Something clearly isn't working.
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>>3966334
I don't have one.
I just try to copy artists I like.
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>>3966334
Not good enough
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>>3966347
>>3966336
You don't know how fortunate you really are, I can't go posting work without some faggot instantly recognizing who its from and become biased.
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>>3966373
That's fuckin retarded, you have people recognising you for your art for fuck sakes! What more do you want!?
Also, if you want harsh critiques state it directly
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>>3966393
The whole point is to remain Anonymous. We're not here to have a bunch of fanboys playing buttgrab with you or a cunt who waits for the moment you appear to start henpecking you because you draw a petite DFC. What we want is Anonymous critique without the bias.
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>>3965248
Adorable face.

>>3965473
I'm really liking your anthro heads, they look adorable without the furry vibe.

Work on your proportions maybe? Perhaps it's the strange placeholder head throwing things off but her body feels chunky and short, at least make the waist a bit bigger if you're going for that THICC look. Also make the arms just a tad bit thinner?

>>3965449
Just keep practicing and having fun anon, that's what matters. I've never really done studies and people still like my art enough.

>>3965447
Interesting line style. I like the design, but the head doesn't fit with his body and it's killing me. Study stronger male jawlines/faces, his looks too round.


Pic related is just some lineart I finished, nothing special yet. Some crit on the arm/hand might be nice though, maybe also on the flow of the fabric?
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>>3965254
Is being called Sycra an insult?
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>>3966402
It overall looks good but you should work on your line weights
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>>3966416
depends, do you like sycra?
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How do I make my stylizations appealing? My latest tries at this were all kinda bad and it felt very uncomfortable to draw.
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>>3966206

That's a no from me
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>>3966425
Post 'em and let people complain about the bad things if you can't find the solution yourself.
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>>3966426
based anon saving this thread with cool shit
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>>3966425
Copy artists you do like.
And keep in mind, "appeal" is subjective. Even if other anons dislike your style, that doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. Some people love anime style, others can't stand it, some people love western comic books style, others can't stand it. Even stuff like the Tumblr and Cal Arts styles wouldn't have gotten so popular if there weren't a ton of people out there who genuinely enjoy them. Don't let people tell you what to make your style into, draw what looks best to your eyes, and people who like your style for what it is will follow.
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how do i stylize animals?
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>>3966450
not that guy but my problem is doing something thats looks good to me i feel like i'm stuck to copying others for inspiration
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>>3966344
it is not his work
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>>3966452
> i feel like i'm stuck to copying others for inspiration
That's where every style comes from, artists copying each other and putting their own spin on things. Tezuka copied Disney, and other artists copying him is what lead to anime. It might help you to try and make a chart or a pintrest of what art style looks appealing to you. Only include pieces that you absolutely like the most, so you can get a birds eye view of what it is you want to draw like. Then you can try going through and making a list of what elements of each artist you like specifically, whether its the way they draw bodies, or their eyes, or colors. Once you know what it is you visually like, try putting those different artist's elements together in your own pieces. And as you draw in practice, you'll find ways in which you want to tweak those borrowed elements to make them more appealing to your eyes, or to make them easier to draw, and that is where your originality will come from.
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>>3966416
i didn't mean it as an insult :-(
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>>3966402
turn off the stabilizer and turn on line thickness
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>>3966551
wut
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>>3966577
Jesus Christ, most of the body looks good except the face.
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>>3966551
i like the body and colors a lot, blog?
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>>3966615
i see, was the balance of the shapes off? i tried a quick paintover to see if I could fix it.
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>>3966577
>>3966615
the legs and feet are wonky as well
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>>3966665
sorry i can't see it, could you redline it for me?
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>>3966507
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>>3966615
>>3966665
The arms are pretty bad as well. In fact there isn't much good about it.
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>>3966665
>>3966684
Nah, you fags are like wasps ready to attack when someone else comments. Everything else save the face looks good.
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>>3966707
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>>3966674
Not that anon, but I feel you had issues with the perspective on the arm. Also the overall pose is very unbalanced. I'm not very good myself but I hope this is able to illustrate what I mean.
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Stop drawing anime girls
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>>3966754
How about you stop being such a faggot.
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>>3966750
This fixes the proportion issues but shows just how awkward the original pose was IMO.
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>>3966750
I think I was trying to make a background kinda as an afterthought with her floating and doing a magic attack with her hand outstretched. Your's kinda makes sense but then there's issues with anatomy like in the shoulder area and the clavicles that I still need to figure out on my own. It looks like this was mostly me trying to force a bad pose to work. Thanks for the redline lol
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This is the third time I've drawn this character, I've gotten to really like him and feel like I improve consistently.
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My 1st commission.
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>>3966802
I think you have a problem of making your arms too long
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>>3966750
Anon, I decided to just redo the pose based on your suggestion so I can improve my technique.
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Stop trying to one up each other
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>>3966838
How about you actually draw and stop being massive faggot ? This is an image board you homosexual, not a personal place to spew your bullshit.
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>>3966451
The same way you stylize everything. Take a part of a thing that you like and make it comically big or small. The reasons babies/puppies/cubs etc. Are so cute is because they are just like fully grown animals but with proportional differences. They have big eyes and ears relative to their head but small noses, hands, and feet. Its the same thing for just about all animals save invertabrates. Find what you want to exaggerate and just do it.
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woof woof :)
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>>3966875
looks like he got hit in the balls
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I wonder why I keep trying; I know I'm not going to finish it.
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>>3966898
Stop being a faggot and finish it.
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>>3966898
back to /beg/
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>>3965808
Yes absolutely. Plenty of people make it as cartoonists with mediocre fundies, dont listen to the bitter losers. That being said id rather be good and not make it than make it and be bad forever, not that I dont want go make it.
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>>3966875
I love this!
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>>3966898
Seasons?
Is that you? Just finish it man, you're basically half way done.
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>>3962227
Thanks man
>>3963543
I'm not
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Getting back at it
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Not gonna fix or finish it afterall.
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Trying stuff.
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>>3967095
probably influenced by season. season always finishes his stuff, so I doubt it's him
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>>3967131
Not always, you have never seen his patreon sketches, right?
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>>3966334
What happened between 3 and 4?
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>>3966397
Fuck off Teal, you pedo.
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>>3967253
Stop projecting.
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>>3967131
Are they in the "PSD/SAI/fullsized" category? I only ever downloaded his process vids, since that was what I was interested in.
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Just finished this lads
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>>3966833
not him
looks better but i think you should practice more on drawing shoes and how they wrap around the foot.The heel looks off too.
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>>3967290
oops meant for >>3967218
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>>3966875
>>3967113
I dig it.
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Commission work
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>>3967302
The one with the short hair is a qt
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>>3967378
>>3967302
You can hear them start to sing thirty seconds in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVncHR3ms0Q
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>>3967113
it took me a second to realize that it weren´t dicks
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>>3967318
Yikes those legs
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>>3967465
Fugg are they bad ? Could you do a redline for me please because I can’t spot anything off :’)
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>>3966577
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>>3966902
>>3966905
Thanks!

>>3967095
>>3967131
The fact my work is similar to his is demoralizing in and of itself.
I have no originality, no personal style, and no consistency. I basically lack everything it takes to be a halfway decent artist.

I've been coming to /ic/ for about 10 years now, and I never made it to where I wanted to.
Why should I keep doing this to myself?
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>>3967490
>been on 4chan for 10 years
>why arent I getting better at drawing?

You people are retards
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>>3967490
Nobody asked for a blogpost. Fuck outta here.
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>>3967481
Not him but the ankle area is way too large and the foot cannot turn like that independently from the knee so you either the foot more upwards or turn the whole leg downwards. I choose to try and turn the foot because that needed less work.

Good shit on rendering the skin tough especially the face, I wish could do it like that cutesy animu way!
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>>3967481
>Could you do a redline for me please
No, I won't. You've been advised repeatedly for months to lay off the rendering and go do the fundamental anatomy and form studies that you're desperately lacking. You are obviously unwilling to do that since you just keep pumping out these rendered to death, perspectiveless shitpiles. Fuck off.
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>>3967490
Congrats, you let /ic/ steal your gains by giving you all of the wrong information and you actually believed the memes.
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>>3967532
I appreciate that, anon. Thank you

>>3967541
Fuck that stung
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>>3967568
I'm not him but I kind of agree. Your drawing skill lags behind and anons have told you many times. Download an anatomy book for imagination work and start doing figure studies
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>>3967585
That’s the thing, I have been doing studies. Anatomy studies, lighting studies, and some others. It doesn’t look like it, but my most recent wip is actually an improvement from what I would’ve made before studying. The progress is just slow and my eyes still aren’t trained enough.
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>>3967633
That's good then. Do even more
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I've turned them into stickers now lads
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>>3967654
I’m doing some right now :’)
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>>3967113
is that your work?
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daydreamin and sketchin
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>>3967825
Blog? This is really cool work
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>>3967825
Looks nice but the guy looks like some malnourished kid that I can easily bully
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>>3967098
Just wanted to say that I absolutely love this. Keep it up!
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>>3967964
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>>3963645
This is late but it looks like you took the advice from the character thread on board.

Valerian no longer looks like a HIV+, drug addict pedophile biker.

Gabriel/NOT!Lalli also looks cuter. I don't know it could just be because it's coloured but his character doesn't read as severe or blank as it did before. His face also looks like it has a bit more weight on it so he no longer looks malnourished.

Olka also looks a bit older, aligned with her age. Did you just emphasise some of the age lines on her face? Her stance also looks less slouched then I remember. She now comes off as much more professional and strict.

Anyway man I'm looking forward to see where you'll go from here. Good stuff!
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>>3964089
Cute

Would prefer to see the freckled blondie in it though.



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