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Stumbled across this drawing a while back an am somewhat enamored with the style. I keep trying to replicate the style but never can get a decent drawing in the same style, as my style tends to have a lot more shading and rely less on the linework for texture. Any recommendations for getting good in this style? Seems like a light table would be an easy way but I'm broke and they're kinda expensive.
I can post examples of my recent drawings if that'd help.
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what do you even draw like now? o-o
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>>4006095
>Chicken scratch
>scribble
>Fucked up hand anatomy
Achievable in less than 3 weeks with ink practice and ignoring shading in favor of 'drawing like a painter'.
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>>4006097
This is probably my best recent drawing
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>>4006099
Your style is fine. Learn how to make longer lines in fewer tries.
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>>4006098
I'm by no means a talented artist. I've been drawing ink primarily since elementary, though I took about a 3 year break starting in 11th grade. I'm sure it was easy for you but I'm not that talented.
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>>4006100
I mean for some drawings but I'm trying to learn more styles.
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>>4006098
Stop sperging out they were clearly talking about the aesthetic appeal and not the fundamental technicalities
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>>4006095
>I keep trying to replicate the style but never can get a decent drawing in the same style, as my style tends to have a lot more shading and rely less on the linework for texture.
If you can't replicate it and you somehow fall back into your old habits, you're not trying hard enough. Try carefully copying the drawing (hell, even outright tracing it would be fine), paying close attention to the linework and what you like about the drawing. Why are some lines long and organic and why are some line short and repetitious? Where is the focal point (most detail) and which areas are just suggested and abstracted? Why does it appeal to you?
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>>4006099
You can't make a better drawing cause you suck.
You need a few more years of practice before you'll even get closer to reaching that kind of confident lines.
And the OP pic honestly isn't even that good.
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>>4006124
Damn bro.
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>>4006098
>chicken scratch
>chicken fucking scratch
>that drawing
>chicken scratch
literally jump off a tall building
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>>4006124
I don't know what my issue is but I never can seem to get a drawing with confident lines and decent form. Like I think this one has decent lines overall but the form is garbage.
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>>4006098
The lines aren't smooth but they overall do a decent job at conveying texture. The scribbles are pretty meh though, I would imagine it was to draw the focus towards the face.
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>>4006095
K. so from what I observed I agree that you did lose a sense of fluidity and "freeness" if that's even a thing. I honestly think your op image is a lot more "you" It also has a lot more appeal than the two other drawings you drew. Like shit the very last pic you posted looks like something some edgy indian kid in highschool would draw like, while the princess mononoke looks stiff and rigid. The body looks way too large (fat) almost like a whale, and the side view looks really off, and very inorganic. If these are indeed your most recent drawings, I don't know what to tell you. You could just be going through a bad artblock , or maybe you even just got worse which is probably artblock related. Also, it's really hard to compare your drawings from one another when you draw two completely different subject matters. The picture in OP image is a 3/4 view of some monster girl, while the other two are a side view, and 2 drawings of strange men. Why don't you try drawing that same image now and see how you do.
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>>4006152
K gimme a minute. I've only recently been getting back into drawing over the past few months after the few year break I mentioned. In the mean time here's a frontal of a girl.
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>>4006098
>chicken scratch
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>>4006136
I realize what dialectics I am about to use. Listen closely, for though it seems at first like symbolic jungian bullshit, it is as clear as it can be stated.

Your body is too shy and frail to come out. DRAWING IS NOT JUST AN ACT OF MIND, IT IS A PERFORMANCE. Your body is suffering terribly under a mind that constantly censors and berates its expressions. To achieve a drawing less constricted, like yours, and more free, like OP's, you need to hold your mind back and let your body come out. Here are a few guidelines on exercises to help with that- Its important that you dont skip any of them, but if for some fucked up reason you actually cant, doing these halfway is still better than not doing them at all.

Use big paper, like an a3 or bigger.
Use thick messy charcoal that will not allow you to make details or other small shit that does not matter for the purposes of this exercise.
Put the paper on a wall, or somewhere you cant lean on, cant crumple yourself on like a meek and defenseless animal. Do not use a table.
Draw fast, use fast motions, use strength.
This is an exercise on the body- Do not censor it. The easiest way to not censor it is to do it with your eyes closed, for then you cannot see and berate yourself for the fucked up lines. Draw abstract shit while you're at it.

In between this blooming and coming back to your normal drawings, you will notice the difference.
These things are not just psychosomatic, but also somatopsychic.
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>>4006152
Here's a sketch, haven't filled out all the details.
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>>4006217
Retard alert
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>>4006219
And with more detail.
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>>4006098
Why do people like you feel the need to give advice?
You must know that you suck at drawing, right? So why do you pretend to know on /ic/?
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>>4006230
I TRIED MY BEST IS THIS CUTE?
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>>4006264
Yeah dude that's cute as fuck. Stealing it
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>>4006265
wtf this takes 0 skill, anime artists are hacks
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>>4006264
Yeah. My only major critique is that her far shoulder seems to be at a weird angle / the outfit is goofy on that side. If her shoulders are supposed to be following the upper line, her chest will be a bit more tilted away from the viewer. If it's supposed to be the lower line, her shoulder should be lower than it is and her outfit adjusted to match.
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>>4006274
Aight let's see your take on it.
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>>4006280
yeah, I had trouble with imagining that, like, can you redline it? I tried fixing it, it's supposed to follow the upper line
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>>4006287
Sadly on my phone and don't do digital. I can print a copy when I get home and do it in red pen if that'd help.
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>>4006264
It's cute, but it's a copy. Clearly you have no idea what you are drawing.
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>>4006290
eh, that sounds like 2 much work, I'll just refer to loomis. It's really a problem with my knowledge of how the neck+head connects to the torso. I should practice that
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>>4006292
Also her face should roughly follow this contour, so her mouth should be a bit further to the left, and her left cheek should probably be a bit less puffed out.
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>>4006297
Retard alert (#2)
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>>4006291
What do you mean copy? I did this completely from imagination, while trying to emulate the style posted by OP, here's another.
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>>4006312
oops, just noticed the nose
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>>4006312
That one's a lot better. Her ears look a bit too low and her pupils appear to be slightly different sizes.
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>>4006312
>westernshit lips
disgusting
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>>4006318
K but imagine those plump lips wrapped around the tip of your cock.
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>>4006323
I very much prefer thin, subtle lips wrapped around my cock thank you
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>>4006333
Trash tier taste
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>>4006318
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>>4006264
ignore the retard, he's mad for being called out on his "chicken scratching" advice
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>>4006334
enjoy your chimpanzee lips
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>>4006341
I dunno man I think it's kinda cute
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>>4006363
Will do
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>>4006403
If you're going to expect me to take anything you say seriously when accompanied by that drawing you're dead wrong kiddo.
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>>4006408
OP asked how to replicate a style, I just gave the most obvious answer.
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>>4006423
I get that but when you post a shit drawing it makes it look like you're doing something wrong, and thereby aren't worth listening to.
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I tried taking it further, any tips on rendering this?
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>>4006403
cute!
>>4006455
it's not shit and captures both the looseness and the style of the reference fairly well
post your work
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>>4006457
>implying this autist will post his work rofl
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>>4006457
Already did dipshit
>>4006230
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>>4006469
he did a better job than you despite using a different medium. if you can't see that, you need to train your tastes
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>>4006456
my advice is don't be a pedophile or a gay pedophile
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>>4006491
Curious what he did better because I don't see it.
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>>4006498
maybe this helps? take note of the head shape and how deliberate, confident and flowing the strokes are, particularly around the hair. it's arguably a better rendition than the reference.
comparatively, your strokes look very uncertain, like you're just copying lines without understanding why they are there and what they are meant to represent in first place
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>>4006498
>>4006521
in addition, until you can self-critique, take note of your flaws and try to understand how to correct them, you are *never* going to be able to grow as an artist
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>>4006521
I guess one of us is a retard because the strokes on the hair, especially on the left side look like ass to me and don't even remotely look like any strand of hair should.
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>>4006530
>I guess one of us is a retard
correct, it's you.
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>>4006528
I can understand there are plenty of flaws on my piece, (the eyelashes aren't the right shape, the left part of bangs goes too wide, the lines on her hair ornaments aren't the most steady, her right part of bangs intersects the long strand awkwardly, her pinky finger is misshapen and too big). To me the digital one just looks like hair pale ass.
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>>4006534
>Dismiss issues of a piece out of pocket
Hmmm I'm not sure about that one
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>>4006455
i don't know what you're expecting, anon
the original is a sketch to begin with, so i'm not gonna make it any cleaner since we're talking about copying styles
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>>4006557
Better though for better or worse her face looks like a bratz doll.
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>>4006570
had to look up what that is lol
I don't see it; it seems like their prominent feature is their lips?
Unless you mean the eye proportion, then yeah.
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>>4006098
ngmi
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>>4006600
What the hell does that even mean.
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>>4006614
lurk more newfag
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>>4006614
he's basically calling you the N-word, but worse
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>>4006095
this is literally the most boring drawing i've ever seen
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Cute thread
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>>4006312
The previou sone looks exactly like asanagi's stuff.
I guess you just got lucky, considering you also drew this one which is much worse.
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>>4006577
>had to look up what that is lol
hi underage
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>>4006771
That type of doll isn't really a thing in my country. Plus, I never really played with toys in my childhood.
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>>4006164
not him, but interesting suggestion anon. where did you get that idea from?
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>>4006095
>Enamorade with the style
>Generic amateur anime garbage
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>>4006521
the image on the very left side is the best drawing imo. The other two still look quite amateurish. Jeez op how long did you take a break before starting up drawing again because honestly I think you just got worse. The one on the left looks like one of those drawings those japanese twitter artists sketch out from time to time, the two on the right look like a failed attempt at trying to copy the image. OP I'm beginning to think that you're either trolling or baiting lul..
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>>4007045
Stopped drawing for about 3 years. I don't have any of my work from before I stopped but I doubt it's any better.
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>>4006700
I see you and raise pic related
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>>4007045
he didn't draw op pic look at what he wrote, it's something he's trying to replicate in
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>>4006136
>>4006158
the subtle knowledge of form and weight isn't something you lose, at least to that extent
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>>4007228
oh i see.. Makes sense then. Was thinking the op image was a picture he drew a long time ago, just now, he couldn't draw like he used to. Was wondering why there was so much of a skill gap inbetween the images.
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>>4007228
Like I said never was all that great of an artist. Doesn't help that I never used to do figure drawing
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>>4006867
im not the who ur replying to but hes talking about just drawing larger and gesturally. Look at any video of disney animators, or any good 2d animators, a lot of them draw very large and gesturally. They usually draw like how he describes, fast and without censor
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>>4009055
Do you have a video of them working?
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>>4006136
you're not drawing with the right side of your brain. You're using too much focus on small paperspace details. try drawing with your non-dominant hand, or try drawing the thing you want to draw upside down. After a while you become more confident because you begin to have everything laid out in your head before you've even put a pen on the paper. Makes it much easier to get quick confident lines.
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>>4006136
>>4006158
The biggest differences between you and the art you posted is that you draw pissweak babby lines and don't understand the economics of said lines; ie, you dump a fuckload of lines in one spot and hope they sell the point

I want you to set out on your next drawing with only 50 lines. You have to place them carefully and intelligently. You're gonna fail the first few times, that's fine. You're not even making good art to begin with, so who cares if you make a few subpar things along the way.

When you finally finish an image with that few lines, then you can budget more lines to yourself.
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>>4006312
isn't there a doujin meme face that looks exactly like this? i swear i've seen this exact face sans the ugly lips used as a reaction image
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>>4009549
Looks like it belongs in one of those what you see vs what she sees memes. And fuck you big lips are nice
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>>4006312
looks like some chimpanzee
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>>4006098
>Chicken scratch
Ahh, it so easy to spot a /beg/ these days.
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>>4006312
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>>4009435
Holy shit trying to draw a face in ~12 strokes is miserable.
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>>4009637
(Mostly) happy with the form on this, lines aren't very good.
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>>4009672
It's bad, but at least it's something. I'd recommend doing form exercises, like drawing blobs and marking down the cross sections, or drawing boxes cylinders and spheres and intersecting them. Basically, read Dynamic Bible by Peter Han
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>>4006095
You can't learn an artist's artstyle by using only one image, use their blog idiot.

https://twitter.com/8_mugura/status/1064012254142701573
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>>4009700
>implying I don't already follow them
>>4009698
Readings the thing I'm laziest about because I just want to read all the politics / fiction in my book backlog when I want to read. Thank you.
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>>4009065
https://youtu.be/c8s6Md4RXqg?t=747

the bear one i think is good example, he avoids going into detail too fast, he draws p fast and his lines are really confident
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>>4009726
Holy shit it's impressive how fast he does pupils. Well shaded in about 2 strokes
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>>4009726
Jesus fuck can I ever get as good as this
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>>4006095
Seems to be the sketch of someone that really has a lot of experience of drawing manga. The improvised and fast made, and it's an awesome drawing. I would develop code that could replicate that style digitally would be cool. But without experience it would just be clutter to draw this fast and simple.
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>>4009726
do you think this guy is a furry?
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>>4010317
lol furries creep me the fuck out. ill take that manga any day over that shit.
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>>4010317
Nah if he was young today he would be but probably not considering his age.
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>>4010315
>Develop code
I'm comp sci by trade but fuck I can't stand doing digital art.
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>>4010388
Interesting. I see what u mean. I'm an artist but use computations to make works. There is some interesting developments in autonomous machine learning from previous images to make art improvisations. Seen some simple manga style digitally made really look like imprivised drawing by hand. Guess it would be more like a help other than fully original or autonomous ai drawing.
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>>4010388
>>4010395
www.towardsdatascience.com/drawing-anime-girls-with-deep-learning-4fa6523eb4d4
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>>4009672
>>4009637
It's working. You'll get better as time goes on. Try to get as much out of as few lines as possible, when you feel comfortable you can relax it and start doing more.
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>>4010996
Mostly makes me realize I should be grinding sico or something in free time at work.
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>>4009700
Lol
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>>4011076
Gmi
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>>4006230
Here's a sketch after trying a few anons reccs before this thread dies.
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>>4011548
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>>4011573
Here's the outline of the head, yeah it's stylized but that's what I was going for.
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>>4011587
Okay?
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>>4011573
>>4011587
it's just my style
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>>4011588
>>4011587
Could you say what should be different or redline it?
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>>4011582
>>4011592
Your drawings suffer from lack if understanding across the board, “my style” isn’t a valid excuse. It’s fundamentally flawed
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>>4011589
Posting the same kind of image when I don't understand what I did wrong means nothing to me. If you're not just here to shitpost please elaborate.
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>>4011594
Then point out a flaw or something that should've been done different. If the head is misshapen to you, can you please elaborate where or what should be different?
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>>4011599
Oh, I’m a different anon, your flaws come from a lack of understanding, it shows the most in the hand. You don’t know the underlying structures that make up a good drawing. Bad linework, hair/fabric that ignores form, bad understanding of form in general, anatomic understanding, those type of things. There’s a lot of classic beginner mistakes in there
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>>4011610
Ty
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>>4011592
There is a lot that is fundamentally wrong.
Your head is too short given how you've placed your facial features. Her forehead ends at an abrupt almost 90 degree angle which makes her look like a caveman.
Your hair lacks volume and looks like it has almost been painted on top of the face.
The neck is stubby and at least twice as wide as it needs to be.

Please, please, study fundamentals. You can not draw what you do not understand. You can not and will NEVER be able to draw anime if you do not understand how things work, and you will never learn how things work by mindlessly copying anime instead of making an actual effort to learn how the human head and body is structured and works. Stylization is impossible if you do not know how to stylize.
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>>4011616
Thank you.
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>>4011616
And just because I know it's easy for your type of personality to dismiss anyone who points in the directions of fundamentals as some kind of old wrinkly fuck who hates anime and everything original, here's the exact same thing I just said except coming from an actual Japanese manga artist.
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>>4011635
Bit presumptuous but aight
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>>4011635
This holds absolutely true for every sort of "style", including everything from Toriyama to Kaiji to Hidamari Sketch moeblobs.
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>>4011616
>Please, please, study fundamentals.
>You can not draw what you do not understand
Random other guy here. What fundamentals do you recommend?
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I tried
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>>4011644
You’re going to have to post something, it’s hard to judge without a drawing to base it off of. If you want a generic response, form and perspective. Once you get a good understanding on those you can basically draw anything
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>>4011650
Any recommended materials for learning form and perspective?
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>>4011644
Depends, what fundamentals do you already know well enough to apply? You want to learn construction and how to add and subtract simple shapes to create more complex shapes. However, if you don't understand perspective, you won't be able to apply construction.

As for what material to use, I say be a filthy pirate, grab as many books from the /ic/ resources threads as possible and skim through them until you find one that meshes really well with your personal way of thinking and solving problems. I like Hampton a lot but your mileage may vary.
When learning, be very explicit and force yourself to follow through with every step of the drawing process, don't take shortcuts and assume that you know something well enough to skip it.
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>>4011653
Not him, but How to Draw by Scott Robertson is held in high regard on /ic/ and for a good reason. Keep in mind that it's very much tailored towards mechanical and industrial drawing and that it uses an almost mathematical process that might seem like the antithesis of what you actually want to learn how to draw, but the explanations and the things he teaches you is absolutely invaluable for being able to "see" and commit convincing 3D forms to paper.
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>>4011653
Hampton, Vilppu, Peter Han (or drawabox it’s whatever), Perspective Made Easy. Save Scott Robertson for after you read Perspective Made Easy
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>>4011592
hey dude here's a redline
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>>4011677
Ty. Really like the shadow on the mouth. Reminds me of the Gerber Life Baby, I really went too far with the head shape.
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>>4011709
Damn glad so many people also found the image inspiring.
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>>4009624
its from anons who overuse stablizers and their art looks like shit because its all smooth strokes with 0 texture



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