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Any good books on manga techniques? I'm not talking about some dumb fucking weabshit like drawing anime characters, i have no use for that, i mean like a book that discusses in detail creating manga, the comic book medium. Panel composition, flow, pacing, shit like that.
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Yes, Akira Toriyama's own book. He spill all the beans on how to create manga and at the end he criticizes a few stories from newcomers mangakas.. As a plus he shows how to draw Dr Slump chars.
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>>4011141
seconding toriyama,
hirohiko araki of jojo fame also has a manga book.

and i also recommend the marvel book on the same subject.
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>>4011141
>>4011142
Know where i can find the PDFs in english?
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Scott McCloud's books on comic theory are really good, even if you're a weeb wanting to make western manga. His first two books are great reads, but Making Comics is more detailed and practical in regards to making your own comics.
If you want something really good straight from the source, read Even A Monkey Can Draw Manga. It's mostly funny and satire, but there's some genuine wisdom drops that make the most complex topics seem simple and approachable.
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This is an excellent book that will teach you the fundamentals of how to draw good manga techniques. I also highly recommend looking at this guy's youtube channel, he's probably one of the best artists regularly uploading videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbmhNc2IU9k
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>>4011530

Are you trying to kill the competition anon? That books and all crilley materials are shit.

Loomis is the way
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>>4011530
That's shit. Loomis is unironically better,
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>>4011126
look up Framed Ink in the artbook thread. Not manga but it applies to comics and manga regardless.
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>>4011560
Aight. I was mostly just asking for books about manga because i want to read up on comic book composition storytelling techniques and i find that the manga industry typically has a good grasp on flow and pacing, anyway.
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Any books can teach me how to create my own style?
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>>4011126
the guy that wrote jojo wrote a guide on how to draw manga, google that. the golden road or something like that
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>>4011126
Framed Ink and a storyboarding course (I took Kris Pearn at Schoolism, just the lessons) are the most valuable things I've come across.
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>>4012305
>Framed Ink
There a download link for that hanging around?
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>>4012314
Its no good. Its bunch of portfolio pieces and paragraphs of bullshit with no real technique or theory.

http://archive.is/8IxIC

Theres a co thread with lots of info on comics.
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>>4012318
Thank you anon, i'll be sure to read through this.
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>>4011145
the jojo pdf should be somewhere, it definitely exists in english
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>>4011126
>>4011142
What’s the name of Toriyama’s book? I can read Japanese and live in Japan.
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>>4011126
> I'm not talking about some dumb fucking weabshit like drawing anime characters, i have no use for that
Why would you ask for help related to manga if you're going to disrespect its artstyle? You're a fucking asshole.
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIf8FtUSagYnvkRD-SFrVBg
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>>4012632
Thank you anon.
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COULD YOU IDIOTS SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GET BACK ON TOPIC?!?

FFFFUCK!!

Nobody cares!

Someone tell me the name Toriyama's book already?
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>>4012586
Hetappi Manga Kenkyujo
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>>4012667
Hetappi Manga Kenkyūjo i think it is, from a quick google search.

I tried looking for it before in english when i first tried finding some manga study but couldnt find any.
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>>4011126
just read Otomo manga and realize you'll never be as good as him.
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>>4012670
>>4012672
Awesome, I'll see if I can find it in local bookstores.
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>>4012701
Actually, nvm. It's up on Amazon for 10$

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E9%B3%A5%E5%B1%B1%E6%98%8E%E3%81%AEHETAPPI%E3%83%9E%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AC%E7%A0%94%E7%A9%B6%E6%89%80-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E9%B3%A5%E5%B1%B1-%E6%98%8E/dp/4088528808/ref=pd_sim_14_1/358-7995027-8430222?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=4088528808&pd_rd_r=6452bc70-a519-11e9-9654-9feb1b19a297&pd_rd_w=3LYI6&pd_rd_wg=2lfcr&pf_rd_p=b88353e4-7ed3-4da1-bc65-341dfa3a88ce&pf_rd_r=D4KX9Y07DTAA041Q6TRC&psc=1&refRID=D4KX9Y07DTAA041Q6TRC
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Hirohiko Araki has a book about his experience as mangaka.

Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga
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>>4011141
What book is this? I've been searching up and down for it but can't find shit. Pls spoonfeed
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>>4011142
>>4012156
>>4012724
Araki's book is garbage when it comes to learning the methods and techniques of actually crafting manga; please step recommending his self help nonsense.
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>>4011126
Rules are the same as regular comics.
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>>4012943
Okay. That has nothing to do with what i asked about.
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>>4012946
>what is good for manga
>the same as for any other comics
>NO I WANT THE ANSWER I EXPECT
you will never achieve anything with that attitude, especially not a comic page
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>>4012949
No you illiterate moron i asked if theres any good books on manga creation because guess what you fucking retard, different people have different techniques and perspectives on these concepts that would give good insight.

Christ you're stupid. I KNOW what goes into a comic book, but what i WANT to know is how other people think when they do that, because fucking Watchmen isnt the same as One Punch Man unless you're cripplingly retarded.
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>>4012954
>>4012949
>NO I WANT THE ANSWER I EXPECT
Also what the fuck is this shit? Yes of course i want the answer i expect when i ask a specific question.
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>>4012318
>Its no good. Its bunch of portfolio pieces and paragraphs of bullshit with no real technique or theory.
What the fuck are you talking about, it clearly shows you the why and how of every picture. It's one of the easiest to understand books on composition available.
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>>4011563
Ah. There are no books that explain flow that I know of. Your best bet is to read a bunch of good manga and try analyzing how paneling work.
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>>4011563
Strip panel naked on youtube has some quality vids on this stuff. Sarah Horrocks post about how Hiroaki Samura does fights is also breddy gud.
https://mercurialblonde.wordpress.com/2013/07/31/your-comics-fight-lame-like-disco-hiroaki-samura-and-the-realness/
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>>4013009
Hes an overly pretentious cunt.
Just read Will Eisners books on storytelling and narrative, You can see ideas and tools he mentions being used in manga like Witchhat Atelier.
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>>4013129
PanelxPanel is nice tho
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>>4011126
Literally just copy other manga and pick up the techniques from what you see. That's how the pros learned in Japan.



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