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Previous thread: >>17694000
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>>17731447
Still a still image.
And it's not even on lunatic.
Come on anon, I know getting the honor of making these threads gets your dick hard, but please try to put some more effort into this.
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>>17731479
Nothing wrong with a still image; almost all the past OP posts were still images.
Nothing wrong with not-lunatic; probably less than a third of the threadgoers play at the lunatic level.
It's a related image, the subject's right, and there's a link to the last thread. I'd say OP did his job just fine. Nobody cares about the OP image anyway.
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>>17731506
>Nobody cares about the OP image anyway.
Clearly I do. I'm just saying that if you're going to continue making this a regular thing, you could at least pretend that you care. Just going on like you are now implies that you're just making these threads for the sake of having a general, and at that point you may as well post in the /vg/ thread.
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>>17731479
I was gonna upload a webm but then I realized all my webms have trash quality and no one would like to see them. I always use one of the last related pictures uploaded on the last thread anyways
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>>17731514
>Clearly I do.
And you are? Right, nobody.
Why don't you post a model OP image/webm or something then? Let's see what you consider "quality".
Also,
>the /vg/ thread
Even when this thread starts the occasional e-celeb posting/scoring vs survival shitposts, it still doesn't come close to that joke of a general.
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>>17731560
You're right, I visited it for a hot second because I didn't know it was a thing and it's shitposting/turboscrub general.
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Steady progress. All this GFW has made me really excited to get back to working on Koishi!
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Are there any bosses that are considered easy that you personally have trouble with, /jp/?
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>>17731689
Yes
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>>17731689
Chen's final catches me off guard more than I'd like to admit.
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>>17731732
Mine comes from the same game, anon.
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How hard are StB, DS and ISC compare to the main games? As hard as Hard or Lunatic difficulty?

Asking for a friend.
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>>17731447
Man, I hadn't played any touhou games in 6 years and came back last week and I feel so bad... I used to be able to 1cc all games on normal/hard with a select few on lunatic but now I make stupid mistakes... I decided to start from the bottom and climb up and I just got an 1cc on MoF on easy but it feels sloppy and I don't know what the main problems are, apart from having forgotten patterns and playing while sleepy and losing concentration. Does anyone want to watch the replay and give me tips?
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>>17731447
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
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>>17732328
Nice captura amigo, but since you made it that far you probably understand the attack well enough to get it, it's very easy once you have learned it.
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>>17732328
NOT AGAIN

>>17732343
I got it right the exact next, but it wasembarrasing
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I was having trouble with MoF, more specifically with adapting to the bomb system, but after realizing that I can easily recover my power if I bomb during a stage, the game got a lot easier. 1cc pretty soon I hope.
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I think listening to heavy music helps more with this game than listening to its actual audio including the music. I tried doing the first thing yesterday and got a DDC clear out of it after failing 3 times. I think i probably would have quit, come back after an hour and failed again if i had not done that.
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Even though I would expect more from myself, I'm very happy this run turned out this way, the final spell was intense as hell and I had a good time trying to remember how it was done while doing it.
More importantly, having this thing empty on my chart was starting to bother me, also I can now try to all shot the extra stage!
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>>17732645
What the fuck, same game cleared with the same character from 2 people on the same thread, are we twins?
Though to be fair i cleared the last spellcard without dying and i think without using bombs either, as well as ending up with one unused life, so maybe on my side i was just underestimating myself.
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>>17731689
Chen and Cirno ruin my fun whenever I want to play EoSD and PCB.
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>>17732382
That's exactly what happened with me as well, I barely passed alive against Aya leaving me without power nor lives but when I got the grasp of the new bomb system I can go up to 5 with like 4-5 lives.
I'm so close to 1cc the game but I get nervous and fuck everything up
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>>17733114
Yeah, I got it 2 hours ago. Good luck! Kanako is pretty easy if you know what's coming, only took me 2 tries and I suck.
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>>17732112
ISC is totally doable for a Normal player if you're just looking to clear all the scenes, but no-item completion is very difficult.
The photo games have a lot steeper difficulty curve, so completing them requires at least a Hard, if not Lunatic, level of skill.
>>17732645
How the fuck. Would you mind sharing a replay of that?
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>>17732476
I actually got my first SA 1cc while listening to my edgy music playlist.
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Is using MoF MarisaB cheating? Abusing the glitch is, of course, but it's impossible to not trigger the glitch at all, especially since bombs use power.
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>>17733356
>it's impossible to not trigger the glitch at all
Use vpatch; you should be playing with it already anyway. And to answer your question, yes.
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>>17733361
I am, and it still works. I just tested it at 3.50 and Minoriko's first spell card ended before any of her bullets even got close to me.
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>>17733356
Play no bomb runs, skip from 2.x to 4.x power after Shizuha and always collect all power after a death. Easy.
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>>17733373
You need to open vpatch.ini on your MoF folder and then find and change BugFixTh10Power3 = 0 to 1.
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>>17733356
>but it's impossible to not trigger the glitch at all
Unless you're doing a NoFocus run while also deliberately immediately bombing whenever you get to 4 power or higher, then it's fairly easy to avoid.
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>>17733408
My file didn't have that line, but I added it and it worked. Thanks.
Speaking of MoF vpatch, sometimes I get unstable framerates, starting at some point between stages 1 and 3. Closing and reopening it usually solves the problem, but has anyone else experienced this? I'm running Windows 10 (yeah I know), Japanese system locale.
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Where to pirate touhou?
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>>17733482
nyaa
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>>17733487
Danks
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>>17733482
Moriya Shrine.
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>>17733450
Unstable how? I'm also on W10, and quite often games will slow down to ~50 fps after a stage or two, but only if they're not launched with elevated privileges. No idea what the core problem is or why running as admin fixes it, but it does.
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>>17733538
Random slowdown, 40-50 fps range. This only happens with MoF, though - other games that use vpatch run normally. I'll try your solution.
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Is there an idiot's guide on how to install SpoilerAL for eosd?
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>>17731689
Alice in PCB fucks me up really bad, but every single person I've asked about this tells me she's one of the easiest Stage 3 bosses in the series, including one guy who can't get to Stage 4 on Normal in any game but PCB.
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I finally got to see EX Mari, and died immediately because of course her first pattern is the type where you can only freeze every other wave. This game is really the antithesis of fun.
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>>17734204
That's not true. You only need a 30-50% freeze for each wave, so you have to tap the shoot button fast to increase it in time.
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Raiko was preety easy, much more than Mamizou or Nue, but her spellcards were fun all around.

Just Koishi, Flan and Heca left from the extras
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>>17734799
Yeah, I just froze too late the first time. Still got slaughtered by the second card on a second attempt, though. This whole stage is sapping my will to live.
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>>17733361
>vpatch
tfw you have to cheat to avoid cheating
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>>17734922
Don't worry, most of those attacks you get the hang of. The second spell card is extremely easy. The second non-spell however isn't, much less its version with fireballs.
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>>17735098
>its version with fireballs
I just saw that in a replay, what the fuck. I'm gonna go back to working on Koishi for now, and put this on the back burner forever.
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>>17733279
Can you take any sample from that playlist? Anyway i mainly did that in an attempt at making me not as demoralised when id lose a life / the game, and it definitely worked, whether it was just placebo or not.
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>>17733266
Sure http://threplays.appspot.com/replay_files/5767047069827072
Have in mind that I have not played DDC main game in months and this was my first run trying to do this.
Also I wouldn't have dodge the last spell if it wasn't for tat anon that once explained how it worked in these threads, so ty anon that explained it!
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>>17735726
Either that's extremely impressive, or I'm retarded. I've made it to Shinmyoumaru with seven lives yet not managed a clear, but you did it with only four, despite not seeming to have any better strategy than I do for anything but the last card.
How does that work, anyway? I thought everything is static except for the yellow balls which are clearly aimed, but does that back-and-forth pattern you were doing make it particularly easy or something?
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>>17735782
Well as you said there are aimed bullets between the mess, so the middle becomes unsafe, so misdirecting while dodging the kunais seemed the most logical thing to do. Of course that that means that area will get those aimed bullets too so I go back to the middle and repeat.
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>>17735820
Green orbs are random, yellow aimed, white static.

>>17732112
Lunatic. Photogames are quite, quite tough. I'm at LNB level and there's things in them that still scare me.

>>17734962
I don't think you can consider it cheating when everyone, even the fabled Japanese superplayers of legend, uses it. The irony is not lost on me but it's pretty weak irony considering how easy it is to not abuse the bug.

>>17733356
Just don't shoot the boss unfocused at 3 power, simple. No real reason to do that either outside of glitch abuse. I don't recommend using the vpatch fix because that's just gonna make your replay desync if played back on a non-fixed copy. The real pro-tip of course is to play ReimuB, since MarisaB is just a weaker, fatter ReimuB outside of the glitch. Kinda pathetic, really, only 85% of ReimuB's damage output.

ZUN when can we have a thoroughly good Marisa shottype again? I'm waiting...
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Where can I find practice tools for Eosd? I saw Yats using something to practice green books and that's super useful.
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>>17735988
Yats uses SpoilerAL with a 4.6 SSG for EoSD. See here:

http://eientei.boards.net/thread/1004/quick-spoileral-tutorial

and a full list of SSGs here:

https://mega.nz/#F!W0gDSYqR!HIKFxSUI0B6Ra2ePpEHdxg
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>>17736009
Thank you very much for your kind response. I'll put those to good use.
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>>17735974
>I'm at LNB level and there's things in them that still scare me
Literally how? I myself don't play without bombing and managed to get all of Hatate's scenes in 4 hours all in one go. I thought Vague Recollection of Kinkaku-ji would be the worst and even that took me only 4-5 tries. The only bad thing was Pearl of the Five-Clawed Dragon because of Hatate's short range shot. Surely No Item ISC might be a level slightly above Lunatic, but photo games are Hard at best.

>ZUN when can we have a thoroughly good Marisa shottype again?
UFO Marisa A, and HSiFS isn't that bad.
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I feel dumb for asking but which Moriyashrine site is the real one?
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>>17736926
dot weebly dot com
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>>17735189
Well I don't feel like posting youtube links here but the thing is that sometimes after so many tries in one game you can get bored/tired of hearing the original BGM, so it can be good for your mood if you mute the in-game music and replace it with your own, just pick something you really like.
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>>17733266
>>17735974
Thanks Anon
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Does anyone get crashing when they did spellcard practice in spoileral eosd?
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That took about two years too long.
>>17735820
I tried to mimic your rhythm while only reading the stuff right in front of me, and it mostly worked! Thanks for sharing the replay as well; I think seeing someone of comparable skill beat her so easily helped me be less psyched out by that fight, or something, because it went way better than my last attempt just a week ago.
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>>17732112
Not applicable. The fact that you can brute force it means that the skills aren't very transferable.
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>>17738172
Only when I was using English version. Switch to Japanese version of eosd if you already haven't.
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>>17734799
Wait, does tapping the shoot button increase fire rate in GFW? I thought they fixed that after SoEW.
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>>17738717
>they
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>>17738528
Ty, time to say goodbye to the pretty retexture patch now.
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>>17738850
That patch is horrible.
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>>17738717
No, it increases your freeze power faster. Besides that's your only bet since holding it load a freeze attack. All tapping faster does is charge freeze power in less time.
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>>17738348
Being able to help makes me so happy, I'm glad that my replay helped you anon, congrats for the 1cc! Btw, are you the same anon that was trying to clear DDC with SakuyaB from before?
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>>17731447
Did you guys save that picture when I was bitching about Mystia's arrows?
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>>17740959
see >>17731540
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>No practice mode for PC-98 games
Kill me
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you gonna hate me but I like pointvidence mode

I think its the best way to learn to play, since it makes you practice everything when spell practice leaves out non-spells and level enemies and thus prepare better for a 1cc
That said, anyone knows of mods that include that game mod in other games?
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Gonna post the chart since it doesn't seem I can't go too much farther.
>>17741464
save states anon.
>>17741531
I don't see why would anyone hate you,as you say it's good for practice and whenever I don't wanna do a full run PD and scene games are your friend.
I might actually NB PD before doing the legacy stuff I have yet to do.
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How do you guys warm-up and wind down after a session?
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>>17741560
by watching anime
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so pñaying easy modo pointvidence just because I want to see the story adn endings

>Kanako: So, this is your report, how much of it is true?
>Sanae: you are not going to believe it, about 80% of it!

sensible chuckle
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>>17741569
is there even anything good this season?
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>>17741738
Urahara looks good, also Guru Guru is 2 cours.
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>>17741531
I don't see why anyone would hate you for that, LoLK is a bitch.

>>17741738
Mahoujin Guruguru and YuYuYu S2.
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>>17741684
>pñaying
How did you make this typo
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>>17740535
Probably. And all my complaints from then are still true, I still can't capture any of her spells, it's just that this time I managed to never die with bombs in stock or something, so combined with a decent technique for the last spell, it was enough for a clear.
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>>17742499
The "ñ" is besides the "l" on spic keyboards
t.spic
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>>17741549
What does the NF means? What does the 5/4M means? Points?
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>>17743458
I'd guess that "5M NB", for example, means "5 misses, no bombs". Am not sure about NF though
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>>17743458
NF is no focus.
(number)M means the amount of misses in the run, for example in GFW Ex I got hit 12 times (probably the maximum possible amount) in my no bomb clear.
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>>17743488
>no focus
What a fucking madman
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>>17743595
Not really, I didn't even have hard 1cc by the time I did it. I think what caused me to go for it was playing DDC, for whatever reason.
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Not sure if this is the right place for fighting game stuff, but when can we expect the AoCF demo?
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>>17743726
Isn't the demo already out?
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>>17743740
I heard there was an updated demo coming out with all of the characters from ULiL, since they're probably not going to be finished for Winter.
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>>17743752
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>>17731689
okuu is an easy boss that everyone thinks is hard
As long as you're playing on normal or easy mode
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stage PB
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I just got my first lunatic clear by cheesing SakuyaA in PCB. I really want to play another one than PCB though, what do you guys recommend? Preferably not insanely difficult.
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How many things do you try to juggle at once? (Really at a loss for vocabulary here.).
Like currently I'm going between practicing SA normal with Reimu/Yakumo and MoF's extra stage. Half considering throwing another thing on there, because my lack of progress is getting dispiriting.
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>>17744660
IN or PoFV are good for lunatic
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>>17744689
Two or three. But in your case I'd recommend focusing more on the Extra instead of trying to distract yourself from it. How long have you bee seriously attempting it?
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>>17744689
Two at most, and I only switch to the second thing if I feel like I've completely blocked at the first. Playing something different often opens up my mental blocks and helps me when I go back to the first thing, though recently it hasn't been working.
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I need help, i've been trying SA extra for a long while and i can't figure out how to beat this spellcard, i can't figure out a route or something. I play with marisa b btw.
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>>17744761
Actually, it's about a month today (at least since I 1cc'd MoF, not sure when I started on the Extra after that).
Whoa, I thought I'd gotten to halfway at most, but really I've gotten as far as the second-last spell card (once, as kind of a fluke of bomb abuse).

>>17744769
Yeah, I guess I will focus on the Extra then.
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>>17744789
I've been having trouble with that one as well. With Yukari, it seems like you just have to time it out, dodging to alternate sides then going up and around during that bit where she moves across the bottom. But with Patche, you might be able to use wood and metal shots to actually damage her down.

>>17744790
>as kind of a fluke of bomb abuse
By which you mean, you used your bombs instead of dying all the time and made good progress? There's no point trying to be cool, use the bombs if you have them. It doesn't matter how much power you have for most of that fight anyway.
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I finally did it!
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>>17744911
Congratulations, anon! The first 1cc is always the hardest, you've done very well to get this far!
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>>17744911
What a weird chart. Congrats Onii-chan.
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>>17733955
Do you still need help?
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>>17744911
Good job! Like >>17744915 said the first one is always the toughest since you're basically learning how to truly play the series.
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>>17744911
What will you complete next?
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>>17744911
Whoa! Slow down there buddy!
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Could somebody post empty 1cc chart/link (if it's made via some website?)
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>>17744955
It's not the first time we see that one actually.
>>17745210
Here
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I always wonder what are those things
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>>17745550
Those patches are the gayest thing I have ever seen related to EoSD, and I watch streams about it.
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>>17745569
*patchies
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>>17745550
Geralt please. Retexture is bad but hitbox patch is just NG.
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Anyone else having issues with playing EoSD in windowed mode with Windows 10? As soon as I try it the game hangs rather nastily.

I got the DirectX fix in so it runs in fullscreen but I never play full screen.
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>>17744915
>>17744955
>>17745105
Thanks
>>17745150
I'll probably do IN next.
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>>17732382
Learning to 1cc MoF is the ultimate test of being able to bomb more often than you want to.
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>>17739349
>since holding it load a freeze attack
Hold C to maintain constant fire without charging an attack.
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>>17745550
I always see then as trees/shrubbery, since you should be flying through the front courtyard of the mansion at that point, or at the very least, the pathway leading up to the main entrance.
Dunno why ZUN portrayed them so abstractly though. You can fanfiction them to be a type of magical vegetation or something.
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>>17744789
https://a.pomf.cat/bagrtd.mp4
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If you don't manage to shoot her down at around where I did in this, you'll have to do a loop around the top in a clockwise fashion since she sweeps across the bottom right after.

>>17744831
With Yukari, it seems like you just have to time it out
What? Pretty much all the extra NMNB's on youtube are ReimuA and they're all full spell clears. You have like 100 seconds, there's no way you'd need to time her out.
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>>17746684
But I can't dodge well enough to stay in front of her like that.
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>>17746912
git gud
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Why do the arrows of Seija's Dream Bow of Heaven and Earth pierce MarisaB's bomb?
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>>17745157
Well that was the laziest way to be a moron ever. Now are you an incredibly boring LNN/LNB/score player or an average normal mode player who is jealous of the progress of even the people who are worse than you at the game?
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>>17747181
It's a bow made in heaven. You can't despawn them with anything.
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>>17747214
I'm the guy who's fucking your mom.
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wtf I hate sakuya
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>>17747565
What happened anon? Is she too hard for ya? :^)
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>>17747582
yeah I'm grinding practice stage 5 but she still feels harder than Remilia (well still haven't beaten her but was close few times, I lose most resources to sakuya) also random 3 lifes lost to patchy every few runs
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>>17747606
Don't give up, you will make it eventually. Funny thing, I have posted almost exactly the same thing some time in the past "wtf I hate sakuya now" it was I believe, heh
Just remember to not only practice stage 5, but to play the whole run, so that you won't mess up early stages too badly. Few things you have to do: Do not reset runs, go 'till you die, that way you will get most practice out of every run. Use the motherfucking bombs, even on stage one if needed. Realise that even wasting two bombs is better than risking losing a life, because if you do, then you lose the bombs you had, you just get the basic three for free. Calm down and focus, sometimes it's better not to move. Don't worry about lives lost at early stages, I still manage to die on stage one, even multiple times sometimes, that just happens, roll with it. I believe I missed on both stage one and two in my first 1cc
You will get better and you will finally make it, your first priority is to complete the game of course, but don't expect that you will win if you got to sixth stage. You most likely won't. Take your time, practice, try to find some paths, some ways of doing things. You will make it eventually
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>>17746912
https://a.pomf.cat/lgppwb.mp4 Took my time a little more in this one, featuring the loop around the top. If it's still too much for you then don't worry about capturing it for now.
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>>17747638
thanks anon, also, I keep switching between Marisas and ReimuB, would you recommend to focus on any of those to have easier time?
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>>17747710
I have no clue. My speciffic way of doing things succesfully prohibited me from trying any other shot type until I 1cc with ReimuA, so I played only that. First time I have even started a run with Marisa, I was really fucking close to 1cc with Reimu. Well, it was harder for me to get used to pretty different style of gameplay, lack of those homing bullets really made a difference.
I really don't know, I'd just say: do what you find fun to do, you can't go wrong with that
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>>17747736
alright meanwhile this happened. feelsgoodman
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>>17747648
Thanks, but I'm actually the one who's doing it with Yukari; I was trying to point out that I can't dodge well enough to stay laser-focused on Koishi in order to damage her down. But I'm also not worried about capturing it, now or ever, because most of the rest of her spells are learnable enough that it doesn't seem necessary.
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>>17747861
Ah okay. Thought you were the original guy.
If you don't have it yet, you could give the SA super practice tool a try. It'll help a lot with practicing specific portions of the game. If you look in the mp4's I posted you can find the exact settings for the genetics spell at the beginning.
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=19187.0
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https://a.pomf.cat/ztgxmz.mp4
And if all else fails, move faster!
Can I turn this into a thing? Might be fun to see actual good players do these kind of silly captures on super hard spells.
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never ever do a Marisa nofocus run
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>>17746552
Ah, I'd forgotten. I stay away from that button since it's far too counterproductive anyway.
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>>17747848
>2 continues used
good luck for 1cc
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>>17748753
Try Tsubakura in Len'en 4. It's way harder, even with all the upgrades that make the levels easy.
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>>17748753
try a sakuya or remilia no focus run in IN, it's a lot of fun
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Can anyone recommend more meme challenges like >>17748998 this? I seem to to like them a lot. I recently did photoshooters without charge (when possible), was very fun.
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>>17750227
>meme challenges
How deep are you willing to go?
Game of your choice, no restrictions on character or playstyle, but you must mirror your monitor.
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>>17750227
Remap your keys so that:
going up: U
going down: D
going right: R
going left: L
shooting: S
bombing: B
focusing: F
It should be easier, shouldn't it?
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What do you think of the rank mechanic? Is it a good way to make the games more dynamic for each playthrough, or punishing leftovers from arcades designed to eat your credits?
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>>17750227
Same anon from before, sanae no Focus no bombs in TD is funny too, pretty much any weak shot type serves good for a challenge
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>>17750289
This sounds interesting. I thought about doing something like that earlier, but I'm afraid I'll have to relearn controls too much. It took me some time to get used to regular controls even after I practiced Seija spellcarts for awhile.
Generally I would say that changing controls is a bit too far for me. I like changing/restricting the playstyle more, like spinning arround the Subterranean sun or doing no horizontal Phoenix posession.
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does pressing shift in pcb change overall dps or the visual change of shots is just cosmetic?
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>>17752048
also whats the difference between focused and unfocused bomb, when to use which?
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>>17752048
Depends on the shottype and how much of the bullets are hitting. Unfocused will get you more cherry+ though. Just experiment and see how fast the health bar is going down on a nonspell or something. Focused probably does more damage for most shots when you're at the bottom of the screen.

>>17752057
Depends on the shottype. Keep in mind that some bombs only do damage within a certain range. For example, your focused bomb could do more damage then your unfocused, but only if you're close enough to hit the boss with it.
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>>17752048
How many have you played as? If you look at Sakuya A, the answer should be obvious. But yeah, in most games focusing will increase your DPS.
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>>17733107
>>17731772
I thought I was the only one.
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>>17752107
you mean increases dps because the shots literally start dealing more damage or they just effectively have higher dps since less miss the boss due to less spread?
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>>17752216
The latter. Does it matter though? All that matters is shit dies faster.
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>>17752216
Depends on the game. I mean Sakuya A in PCB has a wide spread shot as her unfocused, and focused has the entire spread concentrated into one beam of knives that aims at the boss.
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Any tips for SA Normal with ReimuA?
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>>17752511
Go where the bullets aren't?
There's not much to say unless you're having trouble with a specific part. Yukari's gimmick ability is helpful in stages 5 and 6, but aside from that she's just gool ol' needles.
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>>17752562
I was wondering if there's anything I should know about with regards to survival. Like, I don't know, "bomb a lot", "don't shoot the enemies in stage 5", whatever.
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>>17752841
>don't shoot the enemies in stage 5
Sounds like you already know, but yeah, don't shoot the fairies that fill in after Cat's Walk or the ones that come from the side while the tanky orbs shoot big bullets from the center, unless you're in need of items and up for some extra dodging. You'll almost certainly spend most of your resources on stage 5 regardless, but everything up until then is pretty easy, so you can stock up a fair amount. Playing as Yukari, Satori only gets one tough spell, so you should be able to go into stage 5 with a decent amount of power as well.
You can't bombspam like in MoF, but of course it's still always better to bomb than to die, especially during bosses.
I can't really remember any 'tricks' other than simply memorizing enemy placements.
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>>17752511
You don't needs tricks with ReimuA, quite the opposite. You needs tricks for anything that isn't ReimuA.
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>Completely refuse at first to do Duck, duck, bat! no item before doing all the rest
>Boot it up
>Do it in less than 200 tries

Welp... I guess... that's that...
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I keep getting near the end of Kaguya, only to game over. It's frustrating because I know I can beat it, I've done it before, and the vast majority of my deaths are to shit that I really should know better, rather than things where I actually lack skill for.
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Has a spell card killed you so many times you started hating the character it belongs to?
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>>17753260
No but it's getting there.
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>>17753260
That usually makes me hate the character I'm controlling, instead.
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>>17753260
When I first started playing, every new boss I encountered became my least favorite 2hu for that exact reason.
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>>17753276
>1142
Holy fuck what are you doing wrong? No reaction time?
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>>17753412
Do you know what spell that is? 1k attempts isn't really that bad if you're going for no-item. 1k attempts without a capture is a little worse but I'm not sweating it.
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>>17753435
Yes, it's Seventeen Article Constitution Bombs. But if your reaction time is somewhat decent as long as you're doing the backshot trick you can pierce at least half of her health consistently.
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>>17753260
>Has a spell card killed you so many times you started hating the character it belongs to?
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>>17753465
>consistently
Hah. Fuck off. Lasers are RNG hell and even once you get past them you're still rolling dice to happen to not be in a complete wall of amulets. The only thing you can "react" to is getting through a not-bullshit wall of amulets, and that's not an issue; the spell as a whole is just consecutive dice rolling.
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>>17753515
>RNG hell
Yes, which can be dodged if you have a fast reaction time. Sometimes it will get you but again it's consistent with a fast reaction time.

>wall of amulets
They rarely happen, all dodging them calls for is fast reading.

Normal player, I assume?
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>>17753629
So basically, you could have just said "yes, I have a shit reaction time" and spared us all from the shitposting.
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>>17753472
Wtf Anon, Kaguya's preety easy. I'd say it's the easiest Stage 6 even until today. Eirin and Marisa from the same game are much higher levels of fuckery
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>>17753701
referring to this
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>>17753701
>I'd say it's the easiest Stage 6 even until today
Easier than Okina? Not sure I agree.
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>>17753260
I actually tend to like characters I get stuck on for a long time. I think that's why I like the SA and UFO casts so much, the games gave me a ton of trouble when I first played them.
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Anons seem to dislike the bomb system in Subterranean Autism. Haven't played that one yet so I looked it up, I get how it works but don't see how it's bad without context, what makes it bad?
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>>17753856
It's not bad. It's the same as MoF but better. You can't spam during bossfights without severly fucking your damage output so it's git gud or die trying.
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>>17753856
Some people simply don't like shot power ever decreasing outside of death on principle. Aside from that, it can trap you in a death spiral, because each time you bomb, you're then less equipped to deal with what comes next without bombing, which can lead to more frequent bombing and then a quick death.
In MoF the system was kind of goofy because point items were so plentiful, you could bomb through lots of stage sections AND boss attacks essentially for free. In SA, there's the opposite and much less fun problem that point items are comparatively rare, plus there's a lower power cap, so it really feels like each bomb messes you up a lot more and requires a lot more effort to rebound from.
But I like them both anyway, and it's not like they make the games miserable even if you don't.
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>>17753856
I don't dislike SA's bomb system, but it takes a lot to get used to. You lose power every time you bomb, so you get a spectrum from "you can bomb for free here because you'd get back the power you lost" to "if you bomb more than twice here it will kill your run and you will not beat the game."
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>>17753260
To be fair I already didn't like her.
>Eirin and Marisa from the same game are much higher levels of fuckery
My favorite meme. Could have said Reimu at least.
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Where did the "Kaguya is easy" meme even originate from? she's objectively one of the hardest final bosses in the series on lunatic, probably about on par with Byakuren. Only Remilia and Junko are worse
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>>17754750
It's a bit hard if you're a normal player trying harder difficulties, I believe.

>>17754608
Fuck that instrument. She and Remilia are the only ones between me and the no item clear.
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>>17754750
Wait, that can't be right. Remi is easy on Hard, and I thought EoSD had the smallest differences between difficulty levels. Does she get some crazy, totally new spell on Lunatic?
To answer your question, while Kaguya's spells are all fairly tough, I think the rest of the game sets you up with enough resources that she doesn't seem so bad anyway. The average player is also very likely to clear 6B in far fewer tries than it takes them to clear 6A for the first time, creating the illusion that since Kaguya was faster to beat, she's easier. And of course most people are talking about Normal.
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>>17754750
She's easier than Eirin on Normal difficulty, that's why.
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>>17754608
>2866 attempts.
You should have used the doll.
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>>17755737
>You should have used the doll.
This is not like 10-4, every re stream is the same kind of shit, there is no point on using it, I would burn out faster with it.
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>>17755727
Bombs are out of the question, if you are taking bombs into account, every boss is the same.
I do agree that people will come to that conclusion on normal.
Also
>EoSD had the smallest differences between difficulty levels
>levelS
Only from normal to hard. EoSD lunatic is among the hardest lunatics and Remilia plays a big role there.
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how big is the difference in power between shot types which are less balanced in some of the later games? Is it say, easier to 1cc hard with top tier shot type than 1cc normal with weak one?
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>>17755751
I disagree.
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>>17755775
That wasn't because of the doll lol
Also cap rate is more meaningless in this game than ever
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>>17755783
Well it wasn't because of the Jizo, because you don't get sub-items until the next day.
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>>17755762
I see.
>if you are taking bombs into account, every boss is the same
Not necessarily, my point is that most people will show up at Kaguya with a ton of lives and just bomb through everything, giving the feeling that she's easy, while in other games the stage 5 boss might use up enough resources that the same player actually has to try on the final boss, making it feel more difficult even if capturing the spells is actually easier. Because we're talking about perception here, not 'real' difficulty.
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>>17755790
Nvm anon, I just released you weren't aiming for a no item clear, my bad
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>>17755800
>I just released you weren't aiming for a no item clear
Wait, you were? Okay, that makes a lot more sense, sorry, man.
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>>17755817
It's ok man
>released instead of realized
I can't even pin this on my keyboard, holy shit
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Normal 1cc'd HSiFS with all characters, and cleared extra with Reimu (this is my only other extra clear except IN).

Next I'll try with the others, then on to hard/lunatic.
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>>17755977
Is that once with every character or every combination? Have you done each season yet?
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>>17753584
Good job dude! Just don't mention any western player names next time.
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>>17755977
Once with every character, and a different season for each.

For me it was:
Reimu - Summer
Marisa - Winter
Cirno - Spring
Aya - Fall

As soon as I was done with that I tried my hand at extra (I think about 25 attempts at least, with a bit of spell practice).
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>>17756061

Meant to quote >>17756027
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>>17756066
>>17756061
Good work anon, I've only been able to clear Summer (on everyone) and Winter (On Reimu and Marisa.) I haven't put too much effort into Fall though since suicide several times per level has a way of killing enthusiasm.
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>>17756070
Thanks.

I had the best success with summer using Reimu first (can't go wrong with up to 6 penalty-free bombs), and was tempted 1cc with the rest of the characters on it but, I absolutely wanted to see all iterations of the last spell card, so I forced myself to clear it as I did.

> I haven't put too much effort into Fall though since suicide several times per level has a way of killing enthusiasm.

I had to really restrain myself to keep from plowing into bosses/enemies.
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After a month break I'm back with DDC.
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>>17755036
Once you find out the strategy for Ame no Norigoto making gaps in the pattern becomes kind of trivial.
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Is there any way to maintain the will to live after getting a game over on the final stretch of the final spell card and realizing that you would have won had you not made one stupid mistake earlier in that same fight?
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>>17758112
Yes. The secret is to take it easy, anon.
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Tell me, fellow /jp/sies, is there anything worse than failure at the last spellcard?
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>>17758748
Getting the deadly hit just an instant after the last spellcard hp went to 0.
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>>17758112
>>17758283
This
>>17758748
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Finally got this, my first clear without using bombs. Stage 6 even after a lot of practice was such a rollercoaster and i hate having to see the character die almost a whole second after she actually gets hit instead of the usual -pichuun, dead- that happens in the other games, pretty proud of my achievement though.
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I finally beat SA after 4 runs that ended at Okuu, and the game didn't let me save the replay. What happened?
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>>17760584
You didn't earn it, that's what happened. Now go beat the game again.
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>>17760662
I closed and reopened the game and it looks like Extra is grayed out again, so yeah, I guess I'm gonna do that. Oh well...
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Still have yet to even see Suwako's last spell card, but I've seen her second-last one twice today, a big improvement in just one day.
Soon.

this doujin may or may not be the entire reason I'm being so insistent upon this extra stage
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>>17761074
Are you getting all your score extends? Having a lot of trouble with a particular card?
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>>17761197
Seven Stones and Seven Trees was the main one, but I think I've mostly worked that one out today, just need to get it into muscle memory.
I have the basic idea on Red Frogs down, but usually I move slightly incorrectly and it all gets out of control.
And Suwa War, as I said, I've seen only twice today, so I don't know it well enough to say.
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>>17760698
Did you continue...?
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For how little they're mentioned during IN discussions, Ghost Team is pretty fucking awesome. If only they fought Reimu instead of Marisa they'd be perfect.

Also whoever keeps saying IN is the easiest Touhou game needs to explode already.
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>>17761427
Of course not.
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>>17761543
>whoever keeps saying IN is the easiest Touhou game needs to explode already.
It's not the easiest, not while HSiFS exists.
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>decided to play PCB
>tried SakuyaA
>got my first PCB 1cc first try
Sweet baby Jesus, I can't stop laughing now. I should have tried this from the very start. SakuyaA is a motherfucking savage.
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>>17762058
It wasn't the easiest before, neither.
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>>17763145
On normal?
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>>17763769
Hell yeah, though I do have MoF and TD 1cc's under my belt.
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>>17761074
Most of Suwako's nonspells can be done by moving just a bit. Even the ones that bounce on the edges are still aimed at you everytime, so you only have to focus on the shit that comes from the side
That made the Extra way way easier for me
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>>17762058
Of course it's not the easiest game, but it's a meme that continues to exist somehow.

Also I believe you mean LLS.
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>>17763806
That's still pretty impressive. Would you post your profile?
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I've been trying these games for at least a year, and I still can't get past the fourth stage of any of the games on normal. i can beat some of them on easy though. I am so shit at these games, like every other skill game I play
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>>17763956
*I can beat some on easy with continues, Beat IN on easy with 1cc
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>>17763956
Well, what to say... How many times have you tried a game with a shot type before you switched? How often did you use bombs? You know about focusing, right?
Not everyone has to be good at everything anon, maybe those just aren't your thing. If you don't enjoy them, there is nothing wrong with not playing them
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>>17763895
I have played this game a couple of times before. By first time I mean 'play the game after a long while, try a new character and get 1cc on the first game'.
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>>17763993
No no, I meant the profile under "other records" not the replay.
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>>17763956
Pick just one game, read the manual, play it for at least an hour at a time, every day, watch replays of parts you get stuck on, and if you genuinely make NO progress within a couple of weeks, maybe then start despairing.
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>>17764003
Show me yours
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>>17764018
Alright.
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when you are trying to get that 1cc and lose all lives at stage 4 or later do you continue or restart?
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>>17764036
Stages 1-3: instant retry
Stage 4: depends on the game
Stages 5 and 6: finish the run
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>>17764027
What the fuck? How come your profile is so neat while mine is shit? I'm jealous. If you haven't 1cc PCB yet, tried SakuyaA, she got 4 bombs each live and have focus homing knives.
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Speaking of retrying...
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>>17764043
I'm using the old patch. If you also want it just get it from all in one pack.
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>>17763956
How often do you play? If you're doing like 1-2 runs every week or two then don't worry about it, it's a playtime thing
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>>17764089
I guess thcrap can't fix my stats. What do you mean by 'old patch'? I downloaded my games from the Moriya Shrine.
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>>17764050
Yeah, retrying...
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>>17764149
Yeah but for some reason they removed old static patches. Or you simply get it from wiki.
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>>17764180
Ok, thanks.
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>>17763973
>>17764009
>>17764122
I do 1-2 runs a day, I know focusing, I am bad at the timing for death bombs.

I keep losing a life in one of the first stages to some stupid basic enemy, then getting frustrated and quitting, because if you are dying to basic enemies on STAGE FUCKING ONE then you are NEVER going to get to the end. I know this because a while ago, I was getting very close to beating eosd on normal, (thanks to it being 40% slower because of fps and vsync problems) then I could not play for months and lost ALL of my skill. Now I keep losing lives to basic enemies in level one
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>>17764261
Practice stage 1 of any game until you memorize the shit out of it, then do the same for stage 2, 3 and the others, you seem like a weird case.
Or you could try to see how far you can get despite losing a life at stage 1, runs don't go to shit all the time if you lose a live or two at the beginning so try to do your best without quitting or restarting.
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>>17764261
>if you are dying to basic enemies on STAGE FUCKING ONE then you are NEVER going to get to the end.
So what? You're not trying to get a 1cc when you first start playing, you're trying to see the entire game, and then get the 1cc. A 1cc shouldn't even be on your mind until you get a clear of the game.
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>>17764271
Also this. If you just keep running the gauntlet, you're going to keep encountering stage 1 again and again, and eventually you'll have it so routed that you won't get hit.
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>>17764297
I admit that i went for the 1cc wayy too agressively, but this is right. Appreciate the game.
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>>17760584
>>17760698
I found the solution here: http://inriver1429nintendo.blog98.fc2.com/blog-entry-539.html so I'm going to write a post about it in case someone runs into the same problem and searches the archive.
I'm running Windows 10, and I was unable to save replays on Subterranean Animism. In addition, if I attempted to save one, my score from that play session would also fail to be recorded, and after closing the program an error message would appear and the extra stage would lock itself again. The solution is to move the game from Program Files to a different folder.
sa w10 win10 replay
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>>17764297
>A 1cc shouldn't even be on your mind until you get a clear of the game.
This bears repeating. You have to work UP to the 1cc, you're not going to get it straight away.
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>>17764438
Why do you have your SA folder in program files in the first place?
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>>17764261
Do you restart the runs after first death/first continue screen? If so, then CEASE. PLay every run to its fullest extent, that way you will be able to practice more. We all died on stage 1 before anon
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>>17764505
Because the torrent I downloaded had the games in installers.
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which prismriver is the easiest on normal?
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>>17764656
For me it's Lunasa.
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>>17764656
Lunasa for me. It could be because I played Reimu the most though
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What determines if you get to fight a last spell in Imperishable Night? At first I thought it was to do with reaching the time quota but I just beat the extra stage and didn't get the last spell so I'm not sure now.
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Is there a rhythm to using Malice Cannon, or do you just mash Focus as fast as you can? Because it didn't seem to make THAT much of a difference against just having Alice fire her laser.

>>17765099
You do have to reach the time quota to fight a last spell. I haven't played Extra yet so I can't say for certain, but it's possible it behaves differently exclusively there.
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>>17765099
For the main game you need to fulfill the time orb quota, for the extra stage I believe you need to capture 7 or more spell cards (including Keine) in a single run.
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did this get patched? I can't pull it off https://youtu.be/2wByitL_bJA?t=20m54s
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>>17765226
>patched
haha

No you're just not doing it correctly.
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Ok, can you help me /jp/, I have a problem.
I downloaded Phantasm Dream after looking for Touhou fangames to play, but each time I pick a character and beat stage 1, the game just saves my replay and doesn't let me play the rest. What do I do?
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I took a break from getting more normal 1ccs and actually managed to clear HSiFS hard on just a random run to see how far I could get. I'm tempted to just forget 1ccing other games and trying to gun for a hard 1cc at this point.
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>>17765363
Don't get too cocky, remember HSiFS is one of the easiest Touhou games.
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>>17765411
>Don't get too cocky
I won't, I'm full aware that HSiFS is the easiest game in the series. (I really didn't even count my 1ccs on it as being real.) But I really like its mechanic, and working on hard on that game might be fun for a while.
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>>17765425
HRtP, LLS and PCB are easier
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>>17765425
>and working on hard on that game
Oh, so that's what you meant. Good luck, anon!

>>17765460
>HRtP
You're joking, right?
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>>17765465
No, HRtP can give more than 25 extends. and you can end every stage but bosses in about 30 seconds with a bomb. And the bosses are easy as fuck as well, even on Lunatic with the exception of Kikuri's opener. But even then, it only needs to take 5 hits and then Kikuri is a walk in the park.
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>>17765460
Playing HRtP is like having a rod stuck through the urethra
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>>17764271
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>>17764499
Thank you all for the encouragement, muting the sound and listening to something else helped too
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>>17765788
That helps me for practice, but when it comes to actual 1ccs, I find in-game music helps me a lot.
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the aocf demo releases in a few hours, right?
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>>17765986
I don't know, but hopefully yes. My fingers are itching!
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>>17766013
where might it be uploaded?
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>>17766078
Why not this one?
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Can someone explain what's the meaning of 'LEGEND'? Is it the no miss, no bomb and no death run?

Also, the 'NO MISS COUNT'. Is it the number of enemies that you miss to kill in your attempt to do a 'No Miss' run?
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>>17766481
Legend as in chart key, not mythical
Miss is synonym of death for some reason
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>>17766507
Are there any symbol for a perfect run? What about 100% all enemy killed run?
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What is a No Miss run? All enemies killed or something?
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No miss run means a playthrough without losing a life.
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>>17766553
So it basically a 1LC/1-life-clear? What do you called a 100% enemies killed run?
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>>17766522
Double zeros or you could make your own and add it to your chart's legend
>>17766564
100% enemy kill is not a thing and probably not even possible anyway, this is not undertale
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>>17751338
As long as it isn't horseshit like Garegga, it's a mechanic I very much support; although, games with rank I feel should have no difficulty selector whatsoever. If a rank system in a game ever needs to be manipulated by a player, though, I think it should be canned and reworked.
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>>17766544
No death run.
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>>17764656
I'd tell you if I remembered which was which.
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>>17765282
Anyone?
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>>17766774
Have you tried to download the other version of this game?
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>>17766898
There's another version? Where is it?

I've downloaded mine from here:
doujingravity-remaster.blogspot.com/2015/11/touhou-phantasm-dream . html
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>>17766564
No one gives a shit about killing every fairy on stages. There is FS for Full Spell, as in, capturing every spellcard, mainly used for games like IN that have spell cards that you can fail without actually missing (losing a life) and games where you might accidentally time out a spell.
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>>17767751
>games like IN that have spell cards that you can fail without actually missing
Other than 6, you fail any spell card by using a bomb, so you don't need to specify that.
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my four highest scores in HSiFS are now game overs, every single one at the very end of Okina's final spellcard. Why am I in this hell?
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>>17767966
Bitching on /jp/ really works.
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>play as Reisen
>8 fucking bombs
>still can't get a fucking fairy
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
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>>17768546
*get pass
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>>17768546
Greentext abusing does that.
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>>17770129
I just look though achieve for this thread. I'm glad all that nonsense got deleted. Maybe stop shitposting or leave /jp/ next time?

On Topic:
How long did it take you guys to Extra clear in PCB? I haven't bothered with any extra since i'm playing all the games in order and want to nomal 1cc them in a timely manner. I'm on PCB and just got done with Marisa and Reimu's shots types. I know that PBC extra is considered a lite version, and got up to Ran's second spellcard only after a few tries.
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>>17770200
Not very long, I did it shortly after clearing PCB for the first time. And Phantasm isn't much harder once you learn the additional stage portions.
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>>17770218
I guess i'll give it a shot then. I don't know (literally) about Phantasm stage though.
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Took a two weeks break from Touhou, came back and got this! Kanako's final spellcard is so mean in Hard mode.
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The one time in two weeks when I don't feel like shit

Nothing like a death when the boss is fizzling out for a warmup
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>>17764169
post scores you supe
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>>17773385
3.5b
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>>17775372
talent
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You guys weren't kidding when you said that masturbating to the character you're having trouble with will help you. Managed to get to Hecatia's last spell card on my first try after I tried this, when I previously didn't even get close and was quickly losing hope.
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>>17775655
>Hecatia
Nice taste you got there anon
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>>17775655
I never understood if it works only with the original sprite or random art too. Sounds too easy with any art.
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>>17775914
I used random art. Might be the reason why I didn't manage to beat her right of the bat and instead got teased by dying on the last spell card.
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>>17775914
Rape doujins are the way to go
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>>17776011
Damn, not my thing really. I usually only read either vanilla or light femdom, rape doesn't get me off at all
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>>17766481
Legend: A table on a map, chart, or the like, listing and explaining the symbols used.
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One billion retrys later... Why is this retarded girl so hard I dont know, but I finally did it!
Just Heca and Flan to go. Phantasm will be the last stand
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>>17776931
>Why
Because almost the entire stage, to a greater degree than other Extras, demands extreme precision. It affords you neither the space for sloppy dodging nor the resources to make mistakes, and so is difficult to become consistent at even once you've learned it.
Great work, by the way.
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I did it, I beat her, aaaaah
My first extra. I picked her because I heard she's relatively easy and because of that Hiroyuki doujin.
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>>17778267
Where should I go from here? I'm thinking SA since I'm already fairly practiced on it, but I also kind of want to make the jump to Hard somewhere.
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>>17778273
Try TD. It's the easiest game in the series.
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>>17778267
Good taste and congrats man!
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Yay! Finally manage to 1cc IN. I only haven't 1cc SA, UFO, DDC, LoLK and HSiFS yet. Which of these games is the easiest, Onii-chan?
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>>17776111
>vanilla or light femdom, rape doesn't get me off at all

Don't worry, son, I remember when I was gay once too, it should pass with time and you'll get some decent taste.
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>>17778505
I assumed IN was your only 1cc,my bad. HSiFS is the next easiest in that list. Then DDC, SA, UFO, and finally LoLK in that order.
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>>17778529
I have already 1cc EoSD and PCB. Never thought about 1cc'ing PC-98 games, maybe I should try them out. Thanks bud.
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>>17778556
>>17778560
STOP QUOTING MY SHAME AHH.
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>>17778564
STOP DELETING IT THEN
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>>17778505
Those are the most difficult Touhous you have left there.

Technically LoLK is the most difficult, but because of how the Point Device mode works, and because PD is the default mode in LoLK (t. ZUN) and it counts as a 1cc; LoLK is the easiest to get a 1cc out of them.
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>>17778564
>HSiFS
Nah, that game is way too hard for my candy ass. I think I'm gonna focus on DDC for now.

>>17778570
I'll save LoLK for last. I still can't get pass that stupid fairy in PD. Fuck me, right?
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>>17778567
But for real though you should the PC-98 ones. They are plain fun even without practice mode.
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>>17778582
Ok
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>tfw bad eyesight and a difficulty differentiating things that are the same color is causing HSiFS to kick my ass more than any other
The danmaku aren't even any harder than in other games, they're just harder to see.




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