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Time to breathe some new life into the murder mystery genre.

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>>17972410
>>17972410
>>17972410
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>2 threads again
Sasuga.
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Soon...
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>>17999749
>one on page 9 that reached bump limit
really makes you think huh
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>>18000173
No, that's a third one.
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>>18000183
shit you're right my bad
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>>18000173
This board is slow enough to make it last another 5 days anyway.
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The Siestas/Chiesters are the coolest fantasy characters in Umineko. I hope the new chapters expand their lore in some way.
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anon
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Magic isn't real.
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>>18001138
They were truly terrifying in Chapter 3, dance of the moon rabbits still gives me PTSD
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So as a general new player to fighting games, I lack a lot of fundamentals and was wondering if there were videos or anything on just learning to be half decent at OMK? I downloaded the JP version and I am pretty shit at it.
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>>18001207

Check Youtube.

Also this for basics:

http://blog.mangagamer.org/2017/12/06/umineko-golden-fantasia-beginners-primer/

And use training a lot, the best way to get yourself comfortable with the mechanics.
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>>18001207
What mode are you playing? I can explain the basics if you want.
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>>18001275
Normal Mode.
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Do we have any idea whatsoever what the new episode is going to be about?
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>>18001280
Oh, there are a lot of guides out there. There are none for Princess Mode as far as I can tell, though. I had to find out the controls on my own

Are you using the passive abilities and the meta correctly? What gives you trouble?
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Why didn't Ryukishi use the BatKeiichi and CleaverRena sprites for the old episodes in Hou?
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>>18001410
I think it's just general combos, chains and inputs honestly.
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How does health work in OMK? I know that the life bar is shared between the two characters.

Black Battler is supposed to have the worst HP. If I choose him, do I get less total HP to begin with? Or are my health points the same no matter which two characters I choose but Black Battler receives more damage? I doubt it, since there is supposedly a defense stat (Dlanor's ability doubles it).
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Does anyone else find the magical narrative in the pre-chiru gameboards really interesting? Beatrice is supposedly a thousand year old witch that lives in a golden castle hidden away by magic somewhere in Europe. Kinzo summoned her and exchanged his soul for 10 tons of gold, but eventually fell in love with her and used some sort of magic ritual to seal away her powers and prevent her from leaving her physical body and escaping. Or some shit like that. Then she kills herself, all the Kuwadorian shit happens and her spirit remains in the island, unable to escape or use any magic beyond mere pranks. But she finds two servants with "matching wavelengths" and gets one of them to break the mirror and release part of her power. During the final family conference, Kinzo starts a ritual to revive her and open the door to the golden land. The witch uses her powers to kill people by magic. She finally revives, but Battler's anti magic power is too strong, so she decides to rewind time over and over again to make him surrender.

Chiru goes full meta and treats all that stuff as fiction. The magic narrative is thrown away and the meta narrative replaces it. Beatrice is revealed to be the human culprit, rather than Kinzo's witch. And even Ronove is treated as the meta version of Genji, rather than a random demon from Hell really popular among witches. By the end of Chiru, most of the magic characters have become meta characters and their existence is tied to Beatrice's gameboard, even the demons and the Chiesters. It's really interesting.
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>>18001636
no
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Is it possible to modify the game files so that the unused EP3 opening plays when it should?
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>>18001636

There was an 8 year gap between me playing Question Arc and Chiru, so the magical narrative really pushed me in the wrong direction over the years any time I thought about what Chiru might be about.

For the longest time I thought Beatrice was a long-dead 11th century European noble who Kinzo read about in a history book, idolized, and made into a funny horror story as a smoke screen for his unexplainable wealth
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>>18001176
beato ;_;
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>>18001738

ANON
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>>18001757
BEATO!
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is gay
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no
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>>18001793
can it be gay if you don't have a penis?
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>>18001812
it is if you were born with one
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>>18001812
>>18001822

Stop talking about Beato's weewee! It's uncouth!
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Don't bully Beato.
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>>18001831
>>18001838
>>18001844
I apologize. I will stop talking about Beato's gay half weewee now.
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>>18001844
Don't be sad, Beato.
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>>18001822
Beato was "born" when Yasu found the gold, as a woman in the meta world.
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>>18002008
As an illusion of a broken man, you mean. Call it magic or surgery, you are still what nature choose for you.
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What the fuck was Natsuhi thinking when she decided to push that woman off the cliff? She only got away with it because there were no witnesses.
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>>18002102
It was just a servant, their life didn't have much worth in those times.
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>>18002047
Yasu may as well be a girl. He was a couple of weeks old when he lost his balls. That's not enough time to develop any male traits at all. If he was castrated at 6 or something, he would look kind of weird for a girl and it would be gay as fuck. But that's not the case. You can love Yasu without being a massive faggot. She's a piece of furniture with no gender.

I wonder what would happen if lolis were that easy to fuck up. You could have a 10 year old loli castrated and she would keep her feminine charm, female psych, girly face and loli curves without ever hitting puberty. I don't know what the long term effects would be, though. Probably something fucked up.
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>>18002258
>Yasu may as well be a girl. He was a couple of weeks old when he lost his balls.
That's more a personal opinion than anything and you're allowed to have it. I believe everyone should stay in their place even if their sexual orientation is different but that's just my thoughts, Yasu was just tragic.
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Nipah WOOH!
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>>18002258
I wouldn't find Yasu disgusting, but I probably wouldn't be attracted to her because she doesn't have any pheromones. Even little girls do. Yasu is basically a baby in that regard. That's why Kanon is such a pathetic cuck.
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>>18002416
Don't repost your forced shit, plox.
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>>18001460
Apparently it works like this

>The total health of your team is calculated by this formula: (Attacker + Reserve) x 3
>This assumes that you have your game set to 3 bars. If you have them set to two, which is not recommended, multiply by 2 instead.
>Ex: [Attacker] -> Battler's 1400 + [Reserve] -> Beatrice's 1400 = 2800 x 3 = 8400 total health.
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Are Outbreak and the alien loli episodes a direct continuation of Matsuribayashi?
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>>18001294
It will take place in the middle of Chiru. Probably after EP6 or EP7.
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>>18002258
>have a 10 year old loli castrated
You monster. Trying to remove balls from someone who never had them.
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>>18002047
You might as well say all Umineko characters are men since they're made by Ryukishi, a man.
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I understand that the Higurashi anime was the first adaptation of his work and it turned out half decent, so Ryukishi must have been very proud of its success.

But I wonder if Ryukishi is aware of the fact that the Umineko anime is a steaming pile of shit. Does he really see it that way or is he just like "oh, it had some problems"? Japanese people can be bizarrely polite.
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>>18002924
The sad part is that the Umineko anime isn't even that terrible, it's just an extremely difficult VN to adapt.
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>>18002941
It is terrible, though. The animation looks nice sometimes and the opening is great, but the whole "creepy faces" thing is something they deliberately put in to make money off the Higurashi fans. And it was already something they pulled out of their asses in the Higurashi anime. The novel had a completely different feel to it.

Some things were difficult to adapt because they only made sense in a VN, like the red text or the whole reliable/unreliable narrator thing. But the anime was still directed like ass by the same bitch that directed Higurashi. The only reason Higurashi turned out decent is because the story was more straightforward and so fucking good that not even Chiaki Kon could completely ruin it.
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The hellacuteness of Maria-chan!
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So is anyone gonna re-post the mystery from the other thread in this one?
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>>18002982
>And it was already something they pulled out of their asses in the Higurashi anime.
The manga adaptation had the crazy faces before the anime even existed
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>>18003003
I'll do it once I get home. Why did the other thread get deleted anyway? Hope it's not because of my mystery.
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>>18003010
What's the deal with the WTC manga adaptations having a different artist for each episode? It sucks when you have a favorite art style and then it changes.
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>>18003011
The other thread is alive. >>17994634
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>>18003031
Oh that's good, saves me from trying to find it in the archive. I suppose for some reason this is the main thread now so I guess I'll just move it over here for those who want to play?
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>>18003045
please do
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>>18003031
That's an illusion. Say it in red: "the other thread is alive". And define alive. There is no way you can repeat it, no way in hell!
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Let's try this again.
MYSTERY TIME

Battler makes a surprise visit to Rokkenjima, three days after a huge thunderstorm hit the island.
He came on a whim, but decided to tour the mansion, and wanted to round his visit off with a visit to Kinzo.
Genji opened the door to Kinzo's study after any attempts to call out Kinzo's name turned out fruitless.
Inside, Battler, accompanied by Genji, Nanjo, Kumasawa and Gohda find Kinzo slumped over his dinner table, which was set with several dishes of a full course meal.
Nanjo verifies that Kinzo is not only dead, but he has been for three full days, at the time of the thunderstorm. Kinzo appears to have been strangled to death.
Yet for some reason, the full course meal on the table appears to be fresh, the soup is still lukewarm and the rest of the dishes look fresh enough not to give off some terrible smell.
There's no way the dishes had been sitting there for three days without smelling horrendous.
So for whatever reason, one or more of the four people who had access to Kinzo's room, Genji, Nanjo, Kumasawa and Gohda had prepared a fresh meal for an obviously dead Kinzo.

It is a puzzling case. You may ask for the statements Battler took from the four suspects but /RED/ is a precious gift. But perhaps you already have some clues.
As always, /BLUE/ is encouraged if you want to earn a /RED/.

Let me take some time to answer the questions posed in the other thread in my next post.
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>>18002875
Is something wrong? You seem upset.
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>>18000158
>Can we get some statements from the suspects?
Battler took statements from Genji, Nanjo, Kumasawa and Gohda. Keep in mind that they might of course be lying, or telling the complete truth. The day Battler discovered Kinzo's body was Saturday.
>Genji: I last saw Kinzo on wednesday, just after the thunderstorm set in, blocking the island from the outside world. I brought him rations of food since he declared he wanted to be left alone during the storm. I did speak to him through the door on Friday evening though.
>Nanjo: I last saw Kinzo on Tuesday, when we played a game of chess. After that he wanted to be left alone, and I was stranded on the island because of the thunderstorm. Along with Genji I sometimes spoke to Kinzo through his door, but he just replied angrily.
>Kumasawa: I haven't seen Kinzo all week, but talked with him through his study door every day since the storm began to make sure he was still safe. He answered back every day, though in his usual angry voice.
>Gohda: I last saw Kinzo before the thunderstorm began. After that I had very little to do with him, not even preparing him any meals since the thunderstorm hit the main electrics and caused the fridge and freezer to stop working. We all ate canned foods. For once, I truly felt like I had lost in the kitchen.

This should give you something to work with.
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Let me start by getting the obvious possibilities out of the way.
First of all, that first red is quite meaningless. /BLUE/ We don't know how much time Battler spent on the island before finding Kinzo, so it's entirely possible for one of the servants to have prepared the food as soon as they heard Battler was coming over (in this case, Gohda would have been lying about the fridge being broken). Their intention was to give the impression that somebody else must have been inside Kinzo's study to prepare the food, and that therefore the killer is not one of them. They are also lying about having talked to Kinzo after Wednesday.
Of course, that would be way too simple.

/BLUE/ The killer stayed inside Kinzo's study the entire time. The food was indeed prepared "for Kinzo", that is, to disrespect him. The person who answered Genji, Nanjo and Kumasawa was the killer.
I don't really believe this is the case, either.

Motivated by your refusal to answer a previous /BLUE/:
/BLUE/ The full course meal on the table only appears to be edible. In truth, it was only made to look (and smell) like food, but it cannot actually rot. The killer prepared this when he realized that he couldn't leave the island during the thunderstorm. His intention was to make the person who discovers the body believe that somebody must have entered Kinzo's study after Wednesday, when in fact nobody could have done so. There is some mechanism X that allows the soup to remain lukewarm. One of the servants was an accomplice, and will prevent the rest of them from realizing that the food is fake.

I'll try to get some actually serious theories later, but for now I'm drawing a blank.
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>>18001176

beato
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>>18003368

ANON
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>>18000173
Threads are much better now. They used to be 290-295 posts on a Friday and come Monday the same thread would be down to 150 posts after a weekend of fun.
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>>18003351
/RED/ The killer did not stay inside Kinzo's study the entire time; meaning that once Kinzo was killed, the killer did not stay in the study until Battler discovered Kinzo's body.

/RED/ The food courses on the table are edible, but one would be wise not to eat them. They are made from actual ingredients and are not made fake, like made from plastic or other such trickery.

/RED/ The food was made at some point to create a false crime scene, but the thunderstorm meant that the culprit had an annoying problem which almost caused a second killing.
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>>18003389
There are less shitposters too.
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>>18003379

BEATO
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is gay
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>>18003413
>all the interesting / funny posters are gone.
It really sucks.
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>the manga uses the new label for this wine when this one was produced 1969 and so in real life it would have a label with an older design

Literally unreadable
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>>18002982
But muh damedame.
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Who's the best boy, why is it Battler, and which exact version?
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>>18003404
/BLUE/ The annoying problem for the culprit was Nanjo! The storm lasted from wednesday to friday, Nanjo was never meant to be on the island after his chess match on tuesday but was stranded because of the storm. This meant he was able to verify for Battler that Kinzo was dead for three days, while the culprit thought Nanjo would leave after his match. The culprit almost killed Nanjo or tried to bribe him but to no effect! Deny it in red!
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>>18003771
It's perfecto.

/RED/ Nanjo was supposed to leave on Tuesday, but the weather forecast made him decide to stay on Rokkenjima. This did not work in the killer's plans at all, as the killer did not want a doctor on Rokkenjima to verify the exact time of death.
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>>18003895
It feels like you gave a little too much information with the third /RED/ of the previous post, but I'm still a little confused, so I'll take it. Here are my thoughts so far.

/BLUE/ Gohda is the one who murdered Kinzo. He lied about the fridge and freezer being out of order, because he had initially planned to use them to hide the circumstances surrounding Kinzo's murder. He wanted to make it look like Kinzo choked on his food and died without anybody else's intervention, but nobody would believe that Kinzo was eating at the time the murder took place. Therefore, he decided to stuff Kinzo's body in the freezer, prepare some food and wait for the timing to fabricate the scene which Battler saw in Kinzo's study. However, Nanjo staying on Rokkenjima ruined this plan, which made Gohda panic. He decided to wait for Nanjo to leave, but when he learned that Battler was visiting Rokkenjima after the thunderstorm, this was no longer possible. Not knowing what to do, he stuck to his original plan of using Kinzo's study, but this failed completely due to Nanjo.

This argument is still full of holes, but I'd like to check these statements:
/BLUE/ The significance of the food is that it was meant to make it look like Kinzo had choked on it, but this plan failed when Nanjo was forced to stay in Rokkenjima.
/BLUE/ Kinzo's body was moved after his death.
/BLUE/ Gohda is lying about the fridge and freezer being out of order.
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do you think there will be /v/ threads for OMK
also did Haworthia ever get uploaded
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>>18004916
I doubt so, /v/ is a pretty shit place. We prob need to keep OMK threads among ourselves on /jp/ or worst case scenario go to /vg/.
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>already bought the original game in the super collectors edition new and sealed for $5
>have to spend $20 on mangagamer digital
Ryukishi is lucky I love this series more than myself
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>>18004923
Same, I would buy anything Seacat related and I am not ashamed of it.
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Any OMK guides or videos on EVA-Beatrice other than on Mizuumi?
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Since Golden Fantasia comes out in about 15 hours and the review embargo seems to be up, I'd be happy to answer questions anyone has, keeping in mind I suck at OMK

Overall, the new netcode is way better than vanilla. I played against someone on the other side of the world and he was able to pull off stuff that, by his own admission, would be "offline only" in OMK. Same-continent matches were always smooth.
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>>18005441
Can you remap a keyboard keys?
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>>18005470

Nope, unfortunately not. From what I heard keyboard rebinding is possibly being considered for a post-release patch, but because the netcode is the team's central focus at the moment and like 95% of everyone ever plays with a pad or stick, it's understandably not an immediate priority for them.

On Steam Forums they're recommending vjoy as an interim solution, which I assume is what keyboard warriors have been using to play OMK for the last 6 years.
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>>18005516
How is the translation?
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>>18005536

The translation is apparently done by members of Witch Hunt. I've touched very little of story mode since my interest is in the online, and I don't speak Japanese so I can't judge how accurate things are, but from what little I played it seemed alright; I wouldn't be the best person to ask about what might be an objectionable/bad translation. I noticed at one point that they translated "Beato" as "Beatrice" for whatever reason, but it seemed like a one-off mistake.

What really struck me as strange is that the command lists are entirely untranslated. I can sorta forgive the names not being translated since you'd apparently get shit like

>Let the one of you that wants to eat the bullet Maria chambered for me come forward, uwooooh!
or
>All You Can Eat Chocolate and Rare Cheese
or
>Sweet! Thanks for coming to see me Today!

But not even the button sprites? C'mon.
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>>18005599
That seems really weird that even the buttons are untranslated.
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>>18005609
Forgot to commends on the descriptions like what it says under SP or SP2. I assume some moves that say you need to be midair are also untranslated?
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I fucking love EVA.
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>>18006026
She is my favorite character. So sexual.
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>>18006050
I don't love her in a sexual way but I do love her.
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>>18006050
Would you stick your dick in crazy?
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>>18006083
How old is Evatrice? I assume 19-20.
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>>18006083
Would you?
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>>18006189
Judging by her uniform she's either middle or high school age.
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>>18006218
Didn't she talk about going to college?
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>>18006224
Actually, in the flashback where Eva was talking about wanting to go to college, she was already referring to EVA as her younger self.
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>>18006083
Of course.
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>>18006234
The fact that a full version of that image doesn't exist is a crime.
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>>18006240
There's nothing arousing about stark nakedness!!!
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>>18006231
I just want an excuse to like EVA without being labeled a lolicon.
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>>18006268
This.
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>>18006268
Yes there is. Keiichi's whole spiel is bullshit.

>>18006269
You don't need an excuse. Even if she's young, EVA's still by no means a loli. The only lolis in Umineko are Maria, Dlanor, and young Ange.
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>>18006268
I'm not asking for stark nakedness. If anything, a full version would have only her pussy exposed and nothing else.
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>>18006307
Thanks anon.
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>>18006362
No problem anon.
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>>18006418
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>>18006422
Battler has a point. Erika kinda overshadows EVA by being even more crazy, annoying, and sexual.
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>>18006362
You're still sexually attracted to a cartoon which labels you as a loser and a pervert.
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>>18006448
I am less offended by that. I am not sexually attracted to EVA though but I do love her.
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>>18006448
And what does that say about you, who takes the time to go online just to make fun of said losers/perverts?
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>>18006446
Well, EVA is actually one of the heroes, but only episode 8's manga drives it home.
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>>18006454
This scene always gets me.
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>>18006450
Love as "waifu love" or "favorite character" love?
>>18006452
An immature person?
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>>18006448

And what's wrong with being a pervert?

IMO, the only loser here is the guy trying to shame others for their interests.
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>>18006461
Favorite character, I already have a waifu and I believe in monogamy.
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>>18006462
I don't know anon, I think someone who gets easily upset in the internet by a joke is the literal definition of a loser.
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>>18006470

I think the bigger loser is the one who can't accept they're a moron, so they pretend what they said is a joke. (because it didn't look like a joke in anyway, but a genuine insult, which makes you an asshole)
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>>18006500
Oh, but I did accept it. See >>18006461 now let's try controlling that anger of yours, okay? Inhale, exhale, relax... There, now we're good to let this behind.
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Who did it better?
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>>18006526
Rika
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>>18006526
I honestly didn't like Madoka.
I didn't hate it, but I felt like I wasted my time.
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>>18006526
Madoka did yuri better
Higurashi and Umineko did everything else better
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>>18006526
Rika, unless you adding in Rebellion in which I will never watch.
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>>18006526
I'd say the gun wielding magical person who is a love martyr for that specific person
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>>18006561
>Madoka did yuri better
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>>18006734
That's not yuri, that's just hate sex.
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>>18006781
Is it ever actually implied that Bern and Lambda are in a sexual relationship, or is it just yuri fans seeing things?
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>>18006781
>愛してるわ、ラムダデルタ
>ああ、愛してるわ、ベルンカステル
>that's just hate sex.
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>>18006822
>Lambda and Bern constantly go on about how much they love each-other, want to eat the other, smother the other in honey, etc.
>They're just galpals
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>>18006887
I mean, you never know. Maybe that's just how they play around. Nothing overtly sexual there.
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>>18006460
Did she jump?
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>>18006446
I think EVA is a more complex and interesting character than Erika, though. Really, most of the adults are. Erika is the one you love to hate, but you can definitely sympathize with EVA and see why she ended up the way she did.
Amazing how Ryu managed to make a feminist character without making her an annoying disgusting SJW.
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>>18006912
>Bern wants to skewer Lambda through her butt
>Lambda literally knows what Bern tastes like

They're real gay bro
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>>18008280
What DOES Bern taste like? Plums? Wine?
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>>18008342
Christmas Pudding.
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>>18008347
I see. And what about Lambda? Cotton candy? Bubblegum?
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It's finally here.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/550340/Umineko_Golden_Fantasia/
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>>18008366
Pure sugar.
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>>18008377
time for /v/ thread attempts
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>>18008377
Torrent where?
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>>18008394
It just came out a few minutes ago. Give it some time.
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>>18008377
Time to be fucking shit at it for months.
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>>18008410
Don't worry. You're still probably better than me. I can barely ever beat story mode on normal.
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>>18008643
I can do it somewhat on easy, so no you are probably better than me but I am actual complete beginner to the genre mostly other than extremely casual play when I was younger with fighting games.
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>>18008643
I sometimes have problems on easy. On EASY.
I'm only interested in the story mode, use a keyboard and have never played a fighting game before in my life.
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Bern and Lambda version when?
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>>18008689
I'm just really shit and would learn a lot from people doing commentary videos on how to play characters but they don't really exist so I am just winging it every time I play.
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Probably the worst decision in my life was to play Ougon in an attempt to get over Umineko.
I picked Battler/Sayo in story mode and ended up crying like a little bitch.
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>>18008787
I can't think of a character that would have a good ending with EVA, other than I guess Ange.
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>>18008819
Chiester 410?
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>>18008817
Also this.
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Honestly, this song is what convinced me to read Umineko. I loved everything about it from the first note.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMgIcr3SAUk
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>>18008879
There's a lot of great tracks in the fighting game. Personally I really like this remix of Occultics no Majo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_nkwV8jYlA
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I'm playing on easy princess mode with one-round win.
;_;
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>>18008890
eh, I remember replacing that with the normal version when last I played
now this is an OMK remix that gets me hard consistently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLEtHBE3b7o
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>>18008404
It's been 3 hours already
Torrent where?
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>>18008377
>There's already one "OH DESIRE" review
Sasuga.
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>>18009157
Just buy it.
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>>18009173
>Half the reviews are negative.
Dammit.
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>>18009260
The game itself is solid. Not translating the command list was a bad idea though.
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There's going to be a new Umineko episode? R-really?
Am I in Golden Land?
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>>18009323
We still don't know what it's going to be yet, so don't get your hopes too high. Maybe it'll just be some random fanservice stuff.
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>>18009295
True, but seeing so many people give the game itself poor reviews simply because of that is annoying.
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>>18009332
Ryukishi already said he wanted it to be serious unlike Hou and because Hane and Tsubasa were already fanservice heavy
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>>18009348
Really? Where?
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>>18009332
At this point Ryukishi can scribble down one sentence on a dirty napkin, and I'd still be happy.
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Man, some of these early ideas for OMK seem really fun looking.
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>>18009295
>>18009338
MangaGamer said that the untranslated command lists are a bug, and the Japanese CGs weren't properly switched for the English ones when compiling the Steam build

It'll be fixed next patch, so there's that.
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>>18009529
Well, that's good to hear at least.
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any goats here visited Shirakawa-Go yet? Considering going next year.
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>>18009727

watch out for unmarked vans and swamp gas
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>>18009755
Speaking of swampgas, when I was researching the Gifu mountain area for vacation stays I did find a river that was named something like "鬼の川" with the kanji for Oni and everything and I thought was really neat although I couldn't get it show up on Maps so it might be local and unofficial.

As far as I know Japanese don't name things spooky like that usually, so I wonder if some shit went down in the past.
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>>18009759

I wouldn't be surprised if Ryukishi did plenty of research on the area before he wrote Higurashi.

I was very surprised to learn that yes, when salt water hits the engine of a WWII-era Italian submarine, it will produce chlorine gas that forces the sub to surface and vent, lest everyone choke to death.
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>>18009509
What artbook is this from?
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>>18010255
I liked episode 7 the most desu.
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>>18010501
7 is pretty good and WIll+Lion make a good detective team. I also agree with Will for the most part about a mystery being shit without the heart/motive of the killer, which is the thing I usually look forward to the most in mystery stories.
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>>18010528
I hate it when the motive is some generic shit or when it's interesting but you literally cannot figure out what it is before the culprit confesses.
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Umineko left a mystery void in my heart, what other mystery stories should I read/play?
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>>18010593
Nekopara
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The EP4 opening was made before the loli Ange sprite was a thing, but I'm glad that it made this possible.
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>our
Why the fuck do Mangagamer releases have so many typos?

This one makes it seem like Rosa's boyfriend is actually Maria's father. What the fuck?
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http://worldendwitch.tumblr.com/post/119607466351/story-time-with-a-witch-in-training

Ryukishi literally said that Rosatrice is bullshit. When will the rosatricers die out?
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>>18010810
Are you so sure it's a typo, and he's not just being overly-possessive?

>>18010818
At least they have a sense of humor about it
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>>18010818
Great, you summoned them.
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Hotarubi chapter 18 is out
https://mega.nz/#F!OJU2HYgB!-lbNfZS31EUf2QXDKB8I2A
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>>18010836
I remember that word being "your" in the old translation.
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>>18010892
When does that scene happen? The only way to know if it's accurate is to check the Japanese text
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>>18010902
I think it's during Maria's nightmare in EP4. After Rosa gets thrown into Gaap's portal.
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>>18010818
>At one time 07th Expansion did illustrations for a card game called Leaf Fight. When they would sometimes send out cards to people, they would include a free copy of Higurashi without telling the customer to try and promote the game.

That's interesting.
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>>18010836
Rosatrice supporters are incredibly annoying and arrogant. It's like they are all the same person or something.

The only reason this theory exists is because some autistic goat made a 7 hours long theory video that completely ignores the magic scenes in favor of the red truth, people don't want to admit that their waifu is a fucked up eunuch and EP2 made the accomplice more obvious than the other episodes.
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>>18010818
That's what he wants you to think, anon. I understand the true reality. The layer of lies behind Ryukishi. He wants you to think it's not true, but Rosatrice is true. If only you opened your eyes.
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>>18010963
I don't get why they are so persistent. It's not like Ryukishi is hiding a real life criminal behind this supposed "red herring". The thing is, Rosatrice is a bullshit story that doesn't make any sense and renders half of Umineko pointless. The official explanation makes perfect sense, is a good story and is foreshadowed all over the place. Why would Ryukishi write a good story only for it to be a red herring that covers up a terrible nonsensical story?
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>>18010989

Maybe he'll pull a Danganronpa with the new episode and completely invalidate EP6/7
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>>18010925
I checked and the Japanese text says 娘さん. Seems like it really is a typo then
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>>18008342
>>18008366
Great illustrations.
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>>18011011
This is supposed to be the Witch Hunt translation with some updates. How the hell can there be typos in lines that they didn't even change? Someone at Mangagamer is a dyslexic fuck.
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>>18011025
A lot of the lines were rewritten entirely from Witch Hunt ver., it's not completely impossible for typos to sneak in.

If you really care you can report them to MangaGamer so they can be fixed in a patch, they're usually receptive to that kind of thing.
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>>18011025
They do a great job translating eroges, but they keep dropping the ball with Ryukishi's works.

Why can't serious VNs be translated by real professionals like any other book? It's like the anime aesthetic dooms them to having shitty translations.
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>>18011034
>Why can't serious VNs be translated by real professionals like any other book?
There's no reason for a professional translator to work in the small VN industry when they can work in the big book industry instead. Keep in mind that VNs are very niche and don't sell very well
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>>18011025
>lines that they didn't even change?
Out of curiosity I checked the old translation and it also says "our daugther". They really didn't change it, the typo has always been there
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Is the anime worth watching just to see Maria animated? I'm worried that the QUALITY and the way some scenes are portrayed will prevent me from imagining them myself when I re-read the novel.
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>>18011129
I don't think that's actually something that happens. You tend to forget how most of the scenes in an anime go after some time anyways.
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>>18008377
Should I buy this or should I not buy it because they didn't translate the command lists?
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>>18011169
One of MangaGamer's staff members said on Reddit that it's a bug and will be fixed as soon as possible
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>>18011180
Is the lack of keyboard support a bug too?
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>>18011190
If you mean the fact that you can't rebind keys then that's just how the game is. The Japanese version is like that too
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>>18009727
that's my dream but I have no money
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>>18009727
>>18011219
I had enough saved for a nice little couple week trip to japan but I bought a new computer and drank the rest.

Maybe in like 3 years. I'd also love to visit the Umineko guesthouse model
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>>18010258
I don't know. I just found it on the wiki.
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>>18011421
It's from the CE artbook, I have it sitting on a shelf myself with the RGD season 4 one
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>>18010255
T H E

H E A R T
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>>18010966
So you're saying he's hiding the truth... behind a fictional story?
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I just donated $500 to charity in dedication to Beatrice to help pay for her sins. For Christmas. You should do so too, Anon.
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>>18011904
But I'm greedy.
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>>18011904
But Beatrice's holiday is Halloween?
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Not sure if this is explained in the manga, but how did Kinzo manage to move ten tons of gold out of sight before the mainland rescue boat arrived? The whole argument between the Italians and Japanese revolved around the gold being too heavy for any one group to move in a timely manner without the others' cooperation.
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>>18012876
I recall there existing some major commucation issues
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torrent when
or at least a safe download
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>>18013528
Just learn Japanese.
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>>18013696
Where do I download that?
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>>18013760
The Japanese version can be found here.
http://lambdadeltosblog7thuniverse.tumblr.com/
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>>18013830
The language not the game.
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>>18013843
You can't download or torrent knowledge of a language.
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so from the sound of things I'm not going to buy OMK until the patch comes out
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>>18013948
A patch just came out which fixes the translation issues, if that's what you're referring to.
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>>18013954
Well what do you know. It's true.
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>>18013843
>>18013853
You wouldn't download a language.
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>>18013970
I would if I could.
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Charming! And elegant! Rapier wit!
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>>17999965
has it been mangagamerized already?
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>>18014285
The translation was done by Witch Hunt, so it largely adheres to the conventions established in their translation of Umi
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>>18013760
Start with kana charts.
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Umineko ruined my life.
I just liked it so much that everything else since then has paled in comparison. Just nothing has been able to produce the same emotional response in me since then.
Even on rereads, it leaves me stunned like nothing else, I need a day of rest after the magic ending since I'm too spiritually drained to function.

I may be just a faggot without taste, but this just makes me more unable to understand how it is possible to spend so much of your time through the years and 8 books, and still come out of the end screaming that it sucks because it wasn't a cut and clear mystery with a charming Lupin-esque culprit.

I particularly despise the "Since his brother died he just went to shit" ones, since it feels like they didn't even read the damn thing.
Even the reasoning they use to justify that viewpoint makes it feel like they went in already knowing it was "supposed" to suck from some arbitrary point onwards, and they went in already on the lookout for reasons to hate the second part, instead of genuinely noticing something amiss.

Stop disliking what I like, you mean goats.
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>>18014641
>it wasn't a cut and clear mystery with a charming Lupin-esque culprit.

I for one think that they're very charming.
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>>18014657
At least one third is.
Another third is for tender loving and eternal marriage.
And the other one is made for sexual.
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>>18014641
I love Umineko and do understand why people weren't too much of a fan of Episode 8 and it makes me feel bad that even Ryukishi admits he didn't do a good job on it.
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Is there anyone decent that streams OMK so I can get better at the game by watching?
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I'm assuming you can't play the Mangagamer version of Ougon Musou Kyoku online without buying it right? Has anyone actually bought it? I don't want to get it and then have no one online to fight.
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>>18014944
I bought it but I am at the bottom of the skill ladder so I won't be playing online for a long time.
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>>18014715
EP8 was good, but it could have been better and the manga proves it.
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>>18014641
I feel you, I can´t think of any other work that has affected me as much as umineko.
I didn´t read the magic ending until my second reread and going though each episode knowing how everything works behind the scenes felt amazing.
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>>18015105
Trust me, literally nobody cares about your skill level. It's an indie anime fighter, not 3rd Strike.
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>>18015147
That may be true, but it is put together like something for competitive play.
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>>18015553
My problem is I want to get better but I go into training mode with nothing specific in mind, so I end up just fucking around and learning nothing really.
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>>18015686
I often find myself doing that as well. Lately I've started practicing combos though.
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>>18015866
I just have trouble finding combos to try out, most of the ones I find don't really work or I am dumb, probably dumb.
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>>18015873
This sites got a lot of detailed information, including things like ideal teams and possible combos for characters.
http://wiki.mizuumi.net/w/Ougon_Musou_Kyoku/Battler_Ushiromiya
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Played Ougon for the first time today.

Rosa has NO right to be so awesome in this game. But she is.
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>>18016957
>Even the game acknowledges that they're milfs
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>>18016709
Who're your favorites to play as so far?
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>>18017119
Rosa seems to be the most fun character in the game, chose to make her my main almost immediately. Haven't decided who would keep her a company, I liked so many characters. Lambda is great zoner and I usually gravitate towards these kind of characters in fightings, Erika is very agile and seems to be easy to pick up and just play but I'm struggling to have good damage output with her. Battler's grope move is ingenious and I really like how he occupied the role of Ryu in the roster. Dlanor appears to be the only grappler in the game and she's quite good at that. Eva's moves are weird, but her animations make me so hard I just can't help myself. Overall I'm impressed by the game, very unique and well-made, great variety in fighting styles and they really captured the essence of the characters from novel. Also it seems to be easier to get into than most anime fighters I've got to play. Great stuff
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>>18014641
My feelings exactly, brother.
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How is the fanlation of Higurashi Kai? Getting pretty tired of just waiting for the MG release desu
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>>17999965
Any hope for playing this on a keyboard? Can't seem to be able to get my moves out consistently.
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>>18017695
I've read Meakashi and Tsumihoroboshi under the fan translation and both were completely adequate. I don't remember anything notably bad about it, unless you're meticulous and nit-picky when it comes to translations. On the other hand, Tsumihoroboshi is so good that perhaps it would be better to wait for the Steam release to get the "best" experience.
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>>18017695
It's not a fan translation. The old Higurashi translation was also made by MangaGamer. They're remaking it now because their old translation of 1-4 was fucking awful. The old Kai translation is good though because they switched translator after 4
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>>18014641
same feeling. I've not yet reached satisfaction with a contemporary piece of media on par with Umineko and Higurashi but still holding out hope. I hear really good things about The House in Fata Morgana from R07 fans specifically, but my backlog is already large enough.
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>>18018127
Same here with Fata Morgana but I just need to get around to playing it.
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>>18017763
It just takes practice. It's challenging, but doable.
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I know I'm being ballsy as fuck entering this thread when I'm only on Episode 2 of Umineko, but I wanted to ask. Is there a text box patch for the PS3 patch? I heard they had to cut that due to alleged copyright from Alchemist, but I feel like that's something that still got made in secret.
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>>18017763
Same for me. I tried princess mode and it made things easier but declaring meta became really hard. I just smash the buttons and they don't work.
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>>18018353
There is one of some sort at the Umitweak forums somewhere. I only used it for episodes 5-8 though. It does completely overwrite the script to allow for the text box iirc. Save files probably aren't interchangeable between textbox and normal.
Good luck finding the culprit anon, you may want to get out ASAP because we do discuss the ending and general spoilers for the series in these threads.
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>>18017763
Using arrow keys is kinda unintuitive for fighting games. 236 in particular you have to press down then right while holding down before letting go of down while still holding right all in a split second. Its very different to just rolling your fingers across the two keys and hoping that the game will be forgiving and do what you thought you were doing.
There is also the problem with some keyboards cheaping out on the detection side which won't allow you to push certain buttons together. Some keyboards advertise "anti rollover", which allows for just about any two, three or even five keys to be pushed at once. (Most keyboards have special consideration for the control alt del etc keys' detectors, most other keys can only be pushed when they are the only key being pushed due to shared detector rows/columns.)
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George may be shit in the Novel, but he's surprisingly good in the fighting game.
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>>18018353
I know the full PS3 port has it.
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>>18017763
The biggest obstacle is that you need another program to rebind your keys. If you have a terrible keyboard, Meta declaration is difficult due to having to press three keys at once, it almost never seems to work unless it's during hitstun. The game is a lot easier to control once you rebind your keys to allow for shortcuts.
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>>18017695
The old Mangagamer version is good enough, but you should patch the music AND sound effects because Mangagamer replaced them with shit versions.
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>>18017763
Yes, but you really have to get used to it. I consistently beat my friend who competes in other fighting game tournaments and uses a fancy stick. I was using the shitty default Dell keyboard at the time.
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Anyone have a text file for everything in the story for Golden Fantasia?
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Hypothetically say you find yourself in a super postition where magic may or may not exist. You yourself are a muggle and can mostly just run away while crying. What do?
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>>18021513
It's a fine choice to just die, we'll all end up in the Golden Land anyway.
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>>18019881
Some of the mangagamer music is pretty decent or even better than the originals. At least when it comes to certain scenes. Like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyGKXb17dV0
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Is there a PS3 patch for the old Mangagamer release of Higu kai? Really liked the voice acting so far
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>>18021557
Unfortunately no, we probably won't ever get Higurashi Kai english text with voice acting.
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>>18021561
We already have that for Meakashi tho
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>>18021566
Really? Since when?
I remember looking everywhere for something like this not so long ago without finding anything.
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>>18021591
https://github.com/07th-mod/meakashi
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>>18021625
Thanks man, I'm happy there's still hope for a fully voiced version.
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>>18021639
It will happen, but God knows when. Mangagamer really dropped the ball with Higurashi. They said they planned to have all the remaining Kai chapters out by the end of the year, and now there's 20 days left.

inb4 they actually manage to release it
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>>18021645
I wonder why they decided to work on all the last three episodes simultaneously, instead of finishing and releasing them one at a time like they had been doing.

I hope it's because they plan to give us the greatest Christmas gift ever.
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Golden Fantasia is awesome. 410/George main here but I also like using Eva-B. I really wish Featherine and MARIA were in this game though.

Speaking of, has anyone here unlocked the Maria announcer voice yet?
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Maybe I'm just retarded, but is there not a pause button anymore? The only way I can bring up the menu now is by clicking off the screen.
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>>18023888
The start button works just fine on a controller but you're right, I can't find the pause button on the keyboard. Maybe we're both retarded though.
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>>18023888
It used to be the W button, but the WASD controls changed that. Not sure why WASD was even added.
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>>18023728
I have it unlocked in the Japanese version.
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>>18023955
As if this game wasn't already hard enough to play on a keyboard.
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>>18021513
I need more data to make a decision.
>Hypothetically
Asking for a friend, right?
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>>18024063
Seriously? I've never played a fighting game in my life. I play on a keyboard using Z X C and have absolutely no problem with the controls. I can do every move I want and almost beat B.Battler once.

Maybe it's because I'm used to playing everyting on a keyboard. I can't stand d-pads, especially for RPGs.
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>>18023965
I'll never understand why people choose WASD over the arrow keys. It's just awkward.

I thought every internet nerd was more comfortable using the mouse with their left hand after years of watching porn and shit. I literally cannot use it with my right hand, and I'm actually right-handed.

Only normies need WASD controls.
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>>18024189
I fap with my left hand even though I'm right handed. But besides that, people use WASD for certain shooting games. I still prefer arrow keys in many other cases though, especially a fighting game so it seems like a strange decision.
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>>18023888
Whenever I Alt+Tab out of the game, it pauses just fine, and yeah I have a pause button on my arcade stick.
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>>18024160
Maybe we all have really shitty keyboards.
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I'm using a 360 controller and doing anything besides the basic moves seems impossible.
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Xbone controller here, works fine as long as you remap the inputs to match the input display so X is weak/ok A is medium/back and B is powerful. Makes it easier to read the move commands. Takes a while to get used to press X to select things though
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>>18024160
Going to need some advice on that, how do you even do the motions with the arrow keys?
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>>18024995
Not him but I find motions much easier with arrow keys. Just pressing right down right for a DP feels instant compared to having to do it on a dpad. I tend to alternate fingers based off of what I need. I normally use two fingers for normal stuff like movement, quarter circles and DPs. I'll use three fingers when I need to use a half circle move.
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Who is good to team up with Dlanor?
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>>18025027
Erika for DURANOOOOOORU
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>>18025180
It's Doranoru!
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DORANORU AYY NOKUSU
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RUDORUFU!
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>>18025360
JOHJI!
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>>18024798
>>18024995
Use PURINSESU MODO and don't put up with that input bullshit. It's not fun.
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>>18025409
Doesn't that limit your moves making regular combos harder though?
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>>18024995
How is it difficult? From the 1P side: quarter circle forward is down, right. DP motion is right, down, right. Half circle is left, down, right. And so forth. Sometimes it's even faster because all you have to do it hit the buttons, not like a d-pad where you have to roll your thumb for the entire motion.
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Where should I get started if I want to buy an atlas that best resembles the one in the guesthouse library? What qualities should it have?
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Are there any good Youtubers or Streamers worth watching for OMK stuff and getting gud?
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>>18023888
>>18023955
>>18024242

F5 on keyboard. I think I pressed every key before I found it.
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>>18026244
I don't know about videos but the character info pages on mizuumi can be pretty helpful, giving stuff like combos, character strengths/weaknesses, and good teams.
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How well balanced is OMK as a fighting game? I'm not too familiar with the genre, but it seems like it was designed with competitive play in mind.
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>>18026614
Virgilia is fucking broken, but the game is well balanced. If your character is shit against an opponent, you can always switch and use the other.
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>>18026662
Poor Virgillia is pure shit, oh well.
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>>18026594
They are good for character whose pages are finished. For most of them they are really lacking,
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>>18026662
>Virgilia is fucking broken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Dea33aMns
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>>18026668
Yeah like looking at Dlanor is pretty good but then I go look at EVAtrice and there is almost nothing there.
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Why the heck isn't Krauss a character in OMK
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>>17999680
I'm going through Episode 4 right now but I'm a bit confused. Is this episode taking place in the past and present at the same time? I'm currently on the part where Ange is summong the seven sisters from nothingness, but I don't recall them dying in episode 3. Also, is Maria supposed to be some sort of ghost or what? Is Ange summoning her image or something? She's supposed to have died on the island. Also, what happened to Beatrice?

Oh, and were there only two mysterious bottles found because of the first two episodes?
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>>18026820
Get the hell out of here before you get spoiled. There is a forum where you can discuss Umineko without fear of spoilers.

https://forum.rokkenjima.org/
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>>18026820
Don't bother with spoilers because nobody else will. You should get out of here ASAP.

Anyway, the stakes were "dead" for 12 years until Ange summoned them again. They were only active during October 4 and 5 because Beatrice summoned them.

You can interpret Maria as a ghost if you believe in magic, a delusion if you believe Ange is completely insane or a metaphor for Ange reading her diary (meaning that she isn't literally having conversations with an illusion of Maria, it's just a metaphor for what's really going on).

The bottles are implied to be the first two episodes. As for what the rest of the episodes are... Well, you'll find out eventually if you keep thinking. Don't just stop thinking altogether because Umineko almost never explains anything explicitly, it just gives you a ton of hints so you can put two and two together.
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>tfw you realize that his name is Ryuukishi
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>>18026614
No clue. It's probably broken but I doubt the game was played enough for there to be a definitive conclusion. I feel like Bern could be insanely broken because of her mobility but at the same time I might be wrong.
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>>18026736
Jessica's already in the game, two boxing champs would be too much
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>>18026946
>tfw you realize its because he played dragoon in ffxi
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>>18024798
Figured out everything but the meta super now. and princess mode is pretty much autopilot which isn't that fun
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>>18029180
since it's my first fighting game I had trouble understanding how to do the meta super thing as well at first, but it's really easy once you figure it out. Here are the actual buttons you must press if it can help (the 3 buttons at the beginning is just the metaworld trigger)
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It's always fun to go back and read reviews from several years ago and laugh about how things turned out.
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Zomg all Higurashi arcs released on Steam so far for only 10 dollars on Humbledumbo
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>>18030881
I cried during the last scene.
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>>18030965
I shed a small tear during this. These sketches in Ougon albeit small sometimes able to reach directly into the soul.
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Why the fuck does everyone keep saying going to Mizuumi like it's the bastion if all the OMK info? There is absolutely nothing for Beatrice and very little for EVA, yet if you ask anyone for any advice they just tell you to go there.
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>>18031386
Because it's all that existed from the japan days and no one else is really interested to actually make an alternative or update.
It's been two years+ since the original came out and the west hasn't even done even one mini tourney.
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>>18031633
So much of this game is just word of mouth and not documented anywhere. It's like people know all the answers and everything but don't want to give it out for god knows what reason, it's understandable why the competitive community was so small.
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Post favorite wallpaper sized seacat related images.
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>>18031715
I admittedly would document more but I'm not good with fighters and I didn't buy the english version, nor is there really a good pirate alternative on top of the patching so it's not really stable to pick up a play for a bit.
So I really wouldn't be in the best position.
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>unlock screens still aren't translated
At least I know what everything is but holy hell do I suck at this game now, losing to fucking 410 and Erika with B. Battler
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>>18032102
Git gud. The only really hard battle is Super B.Battler.
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>>18031918
That's fine but I know there are good people in the community that can do write ups but just don't. I just get annoyed when people say characters like EVA are good but never explain who or how she can be good and just point towards a wiki with almost nothing on it.
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>>17999680
I got a big Higurashi bundle back years ago in some Groupees bundle, but now there's a Humble Bundle with a different selection of Higurashi episodes available. Is it worth getting the Humble Bundle just for the Higurashi games or nah? I'm assuming it's some updated version or something, just not sure how worth it it is.
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What exactly was the point of Lion's character?
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>>18035021
That it didn't matter what Yasu did or how she turned out, the adults were the real villains and everyone was going to die no matter what?
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>>18035021
The culprit is a creation of their own environment and not actually evil at heart, as well as to show in inevitability of the Rokkenjima Massacre.
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>>18035035
>>18035039
That sounds understandable.
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Is there any direct evidence or verification that George did actually concealed Battler's letter to Shannon?
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>>18035209
There is absolutely no evidence, it is significantly more likely Battler forgot since that's in his character.
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>>18035223
At the same time it's just as likely that George hid it because that's also in his character
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>>18035229
What if Kyrie hid it?
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>>18035247
Why would she do that? To keep Battler from coming back to the family? I could definitely see her staying silent if George hid it though, given her whole merciless love mindset.
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>>18035247
Why would she have any idea or any interest in what Battler's relationship with Shannon was
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>>18035261
>>18035264
>why
Asumu.
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>>18035355
She hates Asumu but doesn't give a fuck about Battler at all.
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New thread?
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>>17994634
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>>18035365
Just an idea desu.




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