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Don't mess with Reimu. She'll fuck you up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg386VGErnI

https://pastebin.com/ML5gMMY9
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>>18078737
>>18078982
Can you even buy Japanese digital games on the Switch? I know it's region free, but how would you even buy those games, especially the first one being download exclusive

>>18079726
I only count 4 dora in the pic. Is Reimu cheating?
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>>18080150
It's Touhou mahjong, everyone's cheating.
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>tfw you're in 3rd place in oorasu and the last place player can't count and tsumos you into 2nd place while staying in last place himself
Feels pretty good.
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Ryanpeikou only being 3 han is pretty disappointing desu. Kinda feels like it's easier to get a yakuman
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>>18080150
You just put a JP region account on your Switch and you have full access to the JP Eshop.
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I'm probably an idiot for doing this, right?
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>>18082560
Depends on a whole lot of context. Post the whole screenshot or we can't tell.
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>>18082560
nah
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>>18082645
I just kinda had many (7) honor tiles in my starting hand. At least I didn't play into anyone. Kamicha even managed to get into tenpai
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>>18082869
Well did you win the hand? Nothing wrong with calls anon, calls are my best friend.
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>>18083535
Unfortunately not. Shimocha drew the last haku and held onto it. Kamicha's tenpai was yakuless too, so I guess it worked out pretty well
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>>18082560
That's a haneman. The idiot is the one who deals into that.
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>>18082869
>>18083535
>>18083593
If he won or not doesn't matter, it's not the outcome that makes a choice right or wrong.

In my opinion it was probably justified. You got into tenpai pretty early so I guess your hand was looking rather good. Also if you didn't just draw the haku after calling the 6s you had a realistic chance for yakuman if you drew another haku. It's rarely a good idea to call 4 times but if your ahnd is quick AND valuable you can do so.
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>>18083680
But nobody in their right mind will ever deal into that
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>>18083882
>nobody in their right mind
That's the point.
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"And next question is “how to make pretty teenage girl friend”? I have never had such a thing so I am puzzled. But generally speaking, it is the same as mahjong. In the movies, novels, and cartons, people say “I love you forever” but it is full of lies. Same as how Japanese adult videos are fake.

In mahjong, an each sides waiting is better than a kanchan waiting and a 3 sides waiting is better than an each side waiting. Making a girlfriend is the same. The higher the number of winning tiles, the easier the win.

When you write “pretty girlfriend” it implies that you try to pass on any other potential girlfriends. When you face any situation to win, you just say “Ron!”(declaration of win) like mahjong. It is a fundamental skill of mahjong. Housewife in her thirties or whatever, you just accept it. You can get points from any person. Someday you can win with a pretty teenage girlfriend. Important things are speed, perfect escaping, and rate of winning. Use stealing moderately and get 1000 points girlfriend, 8000 points girlfriend riding on the flow."
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>>18082869
I think it was pretty justified if you could get your hand in that shape that early. It's only E3 but you're correct in trying to get a big hand to help the point difference. My only gripe is the 8s call. With a ryanmen, you could have tried to draw the 58s in yourself to at least keep your honitsu just a little more hidden.
No one(I would though) is going to cut the haku since it's joukyuu so at least you take away someone else's dealer round and pull in 3000 points.
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>>18084048
>girlfriend riding
Lewd!
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3:0
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Guess who won this game.
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>>18084512
This round? Toimen's nagashi mangan.
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>>18084512
Ok wait no I'm fucking blind.
I don't know man. A double ron?
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>>18084512
Did the toimen have a suuankou?
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>>18084529
You are correct
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Life sucks, drop out
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>mfw Nagashi mangan
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>>18078737
I got this, it's not bad. Wish there were more avatar options though.
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017122506gm-0029-0000-47a0c181&tw=2

Rollercoaster where we all played like shit but it was fun.
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>Draw second haku
>Unsure what to go for, so discard 8man for the time being, thinking I can still decide for chii toitsu on the next turn
>Shimocha discards this
Now I wonder what others would go for since I had pretty much no idea what's good and what isn't in that moment.
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>>18089630
Pon and discard 6p. Chiitoi dora3 would be too cheap, unless you drew a ton, in which case you could call riichi on it. But since it's time to make a choice, I'd rather go for toitoi chun dora3 which is a guaranteed haneman, and has a chance of baiman if you get both another 5s and the haku.
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>>18089630
I think I would pon'd that and dropped 3m. It's probably better to have dropped a chun and stuck with chiitoi waiting on 8m considering thats a mangan at least. Going full pon palace has potential for a haneman I think but that almost never works out for me. I'd still do it though.
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"Nice" waits
>ryanmen and its derivatives
>kanchan for iipeikou or sanshoku
>penchan
"Naughty" waits
>kanchan not for iipeikou or sanshoku
>shanpon
>tanki
Merry Christmas, /jp/.
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>>18089630
I would have called riichi waiting on 8m to push it to haneman. Everyone will probably fold but in the off chance someone runs out of tiles, at least there's a chance of a suji trap by then.
I personally wouldn't call pon right now because like you, I'm kinda clueless as to what's a good hand to build it towards. At this point I'd go with a dama chiitoi and aim only for toimen. If I draw any honours, riichi.
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>>18079726
I decided to finally download Touhou Unreal Mahjong. Does 4N just not have a story mode at all? Am I blind?
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Jesus Christ. I thought you were pulling the bullshit here.
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Come enjoy some Christmas mahjong
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Merry Christmas you dykes!
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>>18090937
This became shousangen honitsu.
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>>18090937
thx u 2 i luv u all
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Entertaining game
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>>18090509
His fault for discarding 3sou instead of 5pin
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Actually finding this game pretty fun, even though it's luck based
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>>18092289
Go play more and see that it's not as luck-dependent as you think it is.
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First ever yakuman, winning with rinshan

Merry xmas /jp/
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>>18092616
Fuck! Tenpai after two discards. Truly a Christmas miracle.
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Merry Christmas

Let's celebrate with mahjong

2:0
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>>18092616
The Christmas hax is real
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You can probably guess what happened right after they called Riichi
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>>18101939
Yikes... Was that a Sanbaiman or just a Baiman?
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>>18102070
Just Baiman
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>>18102090
I want a just baiman
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I'm going to Japan soon, is there somewhere in particular I should go looking for Mahjong arcade cabs, or are they in the usual game centers?
Last time I went I didn't notice any mahjong cabs (I went to a bunch of Taito Stations, Hey!, Capcom Plaza, Club Sega, Round1) but I wasn't particularly looking for them either.
Are there any games that stand out from the rest?
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>>18103093
Go to Shibuton and play in real autotables. If you really want arcades, SEGA MJ is probably what you want. Don't think it's common, though.
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>>18103118
I'm not even remotely confident enough to go play people in person, I've barely played enough to know everything that's going on and I'd be hopeless at communicating with randoms.
None of the people I'm going with have any clue how to play either and don't seem interested, it's just for the novelty factor.
MJ's website has arcade locations listed so that looks good, cheers.
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>>18103157
You should also play Mahjong Fight Club by Konami and let me know how it is. I am glad I wasn't into Mahjong when I went to Japan earlier this year or else I would probably have spent too much money on arcade Mahjong.
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Mfw I got this from a friend.

Guess I can finally play with myself!
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Finally reached 100 ranked games. Not too shabby, but not sure if I want to pursue for tokujou right now. Maybe after NY.
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>>18107888
I also was gifted a set. Was excited at first, but I have no idea who I'm going to be able to rope into playing.
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>want to try mahjong
>no clue what the hell is going on
Anyone have a guide?
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>>18109000
Not getting furiten is the best way to start.
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>>18109000
play the flash game then read this http://osamuko.com/complete-beginners-guide-to-online-mahjong-part-1-how-to-play/
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>>18108405
Is that hanchan or tonpuusen?
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>>18108950
Well, I have a few friends who know how to play or are willing to learn, so I can at least get a few rounds out of them.
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>>18109616
96 hanchan, 4 tonpuu. 55 ippan, 45 joukyuu.
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>Stop playing for 6 months because time issues
>Lost my ID so I create a new account
>Instant winning streak (well it's ippan)
>Make some mistakes and also get bad luck for the first time with my new account so I end up losing
>This happens
Thanks, tenhou, I'm glad to be back, too.
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For some reasons my crack now can only be used for NoName, I can't use my normal ID. Am I fucked?
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>>18110222
Mine seems to work fine. Haven't tested playing an actual game but the lobbies and stats show up normally.
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>>18110178
Toimen get rekt
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>>18112010
You're right. I swear I kept seeing that no-entry text on the left part for hours. Maybe day change somehow fixed that, but it's all good now.
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Year/Month is ending. Post your stats. Show your suffering.

>7447
>0:0
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>>18113463
4+1+4+2
After getting almost 100 games in during November, I hardly played at all in December. Maybe it's because I'm at my best R and dan ranking and I'm afraid to fuck it up, or maybe I just feel accomplished by getting here and lost the drive to keep pushing.
I don't see 6th dan as a very realistic goal for the time being, so as long as I can stay in 5th and above 1900R I'm happy.
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>>18113463
Started off so well, then it just tumbled down.
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>>18113463
I'm bad but I had a lot of fun
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>>18113463
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>TFW you pull off a snipe for the first time

both other players tossed my winning tiles too. fighting that urge to yell ron is harder than turning down sex
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>>18113463
Oh, and my 2017 year in tokujou... fuck this shit.

>2.56
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2:0 please play with me.
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>>18116499
No, too busy
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>>18116598
tfw no way to buy gold
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017122920gm-00a9-0000-40d8e7a8&tw=0&ts=2

>this shit happens in houou too
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What single player apps for android are there, preferably a no frills hanchan? I tried the android port of the flash game but it doesn't have red dora and it allows kuikae.
>Pastebin
According to the reviews, Tengokuhai removed single player, Mahjong and Friends is buggy and Kindai isn't available in my country.
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>>18119768
I personally use Mahjong and Friends. Why is it buggy for you? Only bug I see is the endless mode.
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>>18119803
I personally haven't tried it but there's a review mentioned a few things and also the fact that it hasn't been updated since 2014. Maybe I'll try it out anyway.
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>>18119768
Granted, the AI to this game is fairly dumb, as Pretty Girls Battle is simply a repackaged version of this game. But I used this thing to learn yaku and increase my speed play.
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>>18119768
try saikyo no mahjong 3d. It has lots of options that you can mess around with, but at the end of the day it's a pretty good player-vs-AI game.
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>>18120683
That game has an app now?
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>>18121630
You went from 4th and not busted to 4th and busted. Nothing really changed.
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>>18121630
>S4
>that hand
>those points
You were fucked regardless mate. Though your discard pile has lots of honors, might as well have gone for broke and aimed for a yakuman like a madman.
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>>18121630
Not even a pity nagashi mangan win, that hurts
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>>18122714
2000-4000 wouldn't change the placement, anyway.
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>>18122748
That's what makes it a pity win
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>>18113463
6+4+1+1 in my last 12 games but I haven't been playing much this year.
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So how long does an account have before tenhou prunes it for inactivity?
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>>18123235
180 days if I remember correctly.
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>>18121630
if you folded, your kamicha might have dealt in to 18000, letting you get 3rd. never completely give up and do something you KNOW isn't going to help.

>>18121443
i didn't see you were looking for android, my bad. I've heard people say that Maujong is good, so you can try that.
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You still play mahjong with closed source programs?
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>>18124171
You lose one han when you open it so it's better to keep it closed.
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>>18124171
>>>/g/
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First Rinshan Kaihou and even got first with it in the last round, that was satisfying. I'm finally becoming a lesbian, right?
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>>18125782
I was just happy to get 3rd on that one
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That's a good way to end the month.
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>>18119594
Why did he riichi ? I guess riichi is a good yakuman camouflage and north doesn't feel that dangerous but still the hatsu feels dangerous against those two riichis.

There must be some kind of reason since that's houhou but I don't get it (I'm still at ippan level so I'm still struggling with the basis).
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>>18125782
There is no turning back.
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>>18129716
If someone else had dropped the 7-pin it'd be Toitoi sanankou riichi chun haku shousangen dora 1. Since that's 10-han I can only imagine the guy was hoping for ura. That or he did it to make people fold.
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>>18130079
Nice
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Anyone up for first game of 2018 3 hours earlier?
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>>18113463
10+8+11+6 Tokujou

The stats on 7447 are fucked up. It's double counting a bunch of games.
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I want to hug her
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Choose wisely
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>>18138703
Oh also this is the last round, cause I forgot to go back to 2 hanchan
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>>18138703
Oh fuck, I didn't check properly and only see now that toimen has 1sou in the pond. Could've won, fuck
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>>18138703
Both of those look absolutely dangerous as fuck. I think bailing with 4p might be the right choice. No idea if I'd ever do that though.
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>>18138703
Kamicha and shimocha haven't discarded a single souzu tile in all the game. That should be indication enough that the 1s is not completely safe, even if the toimen dropped one way earlier in the round.

The nan is dora, and you can't see a single one, obviously dealing it is out of the question. I'd drop a 4p. 5s also passed a couple of turns around, but I'm not too sure about it.
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>>18138901
>>18138755
I bailed too with the 4pin. Both tiles are actually save and toimen later discarded the last south wind.
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>>18138963
with that kind of mrxican standoff, 4p was certainly the right choice
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Off to a good start. Happy new year!
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Don't get that mahjong game for the Switch. Connection problems, hardly ever can find a full match, and the ones that finish don't count if they disconnect prematurely. The only thing it's good for is playing AI away from the computer.
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I had never paid attention to these graphs before, and now I'm pretty interested in seeing other player's. I'm 12 hours off nippon so I'm at my best at 5 am on Thursdays and Sundays, apparently.
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>>18139356
>shimocha played like he's still in hangover
>kamicha tsumo'd big hands but I managed to drain his points
>barely reached 1st place with only 100 points gap
>toimen took it over anyway
It's still small luck, so I'd take it.
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I'm excited.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6yao6Q6msY
Duplicate mahjong is finally here. No more luck.
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>>18117096
I have a good size stash of items in MJ and I only spent like $5 to buy some SP voices because you can only get them with gold.

Guide to making enough SEGA chips to live on forever:

1) have a good win rate or get good and improve your win rate to a good one (check your free taisen stats for a good estimate)
2) save up warchest by playing the free games
3) play ikkyokusen with the warchest, at first wins and losses will be small, but eventually you'll hit a haneman or baiman and go +several thousand chips in one go.

After you have like 5000+ chips you are really set in regards to getting the free stuff for playing X amount of event games, or for getting SP character coins for playing X games. Usually when you play that many games, even a mediocre player places decently enough to make at least half what they put into the games back (make sure to check your mail and redeem event gains after each event). The rest can be regained through the monthly +400 you can get before the next big event that has good shit. After that you can keep doing regular ikkyokusen to increase funds, or you can get an absurd amount of chips if you're willing to gamble on the gambling tables. The risk is basically losing all of your funds in potentially one go, but if you're a good player and place well regularly, you can rake up to like 7000 chips from a first place. Balance that with good 4th (or 3rd in sanma) place evasion, and you will see a regular flow of income.

For reference I usually hover at around 2-3k chips and that's usually sufficient for most events if you want only one or two of the prizes.
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>>18124203
Don/t you mean /prog/?
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>>18147574
duplicate mahjong has been around for a while, but it destroys the essence of what mahjong is. I can't believe you see this as a good thing.
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>>18147930
agreed. seems like a bunch of nerd wanking
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>>18082500
don't you have to do something special to put money into the JP eShop though? I tried it back at launch and my credit card wasn't accepted.
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>>18147930
How does it "destroy the essence of what mahjong is"? Everyone sits at a table and gets dealt a hand of tiles from a wall they don't know how was built. East is luckier and gets a better hand while North is unluckier and gets a worse hand; I don't see how it varies too much from a normal game.
Maybe I'm missing something or we're on different pages right now. Could you elaborate on how duplicate mahjong "destroys the essence of mahjong"? Preferably starting from your definition of the essence of mahjong.
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>>18147930
>it destroys the essence of what mahjong is
What are you talking about? It makes the game more fun. Just like duplicate poker and duplicate bridge. Do you have a gambling addiction?
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>>18147581
Thank you thats really helpful. How much should this warchest be before doing ikkyokusen games?
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>>18083680
Just draw it yourself, aniki
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Am I starting to get the hang of this game or did somebody piss off the majong gods?
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018010317gm-0009-0000-449a7499&tw=0
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>>18148891

To me, each game of mahjong is supposed to be a unique experience that's shared with the friends/acquaintances you're playing with. It's a game where the outcome is almost entirely based around luck, but the scale of the win/loss can be influenced by skill; by definition, this makes it not competitive. There's something special about the game you play and the conversations you have during it, and even if you happen to be the one bearing the brunt of bad luck, it's still a story that's unique and shared by everybody at the table. Playing a duplicate game means the situations you see on the table are no longer unique, and cool experiences get cheapened into points of comparison (did somebody play correctly and win that mangan, or did they make a mistake and not win it).

>>18149595

Duplicate bridge is a great example of a duplicate game done right. It's a game where there's more public information and cooperative play fosters deeper levels of strategy, which favors removing random elements and making it more competitive (without even getting into playstyle changes for matchpoint vs. IMP scoring). Duplicate poker is a load of garbage because it discourages variance in playstyles, making the games more dull and conservative when a lot of the appeal of poker is smart gambling. At its heart, mahjong is a noncompetitive game for the same reason that poker is a noncompetitive game, and it doesn't make sense to force it to be something it's not.
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>>18149776
Just a couple of mistakes I noticed, but in your second hand you could have played better.
You had a 345 shape with the man tiles, you drew the 2m dora and dealt it instead of swapping it for the 5m. Opening for the 7p was not a very good idea, although it paid off. Then you discarded a 6m when the 3m would let you keep your tenpai and was safer. The pons you called afterwards were pants on head retarded, even if it paid off this time, all you did is give yourself more chances to discard dangerous tiles against 2 players in riichi for the tanki wait. It paid off, but you shouldn't do that shit.
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So much Tenhou.
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>>18150940
You say that mahjong isn't competitive but would you agree that there are strong mahjong players and weak mahjong players? If so, you can always run a competition to find out who is the strongest, hence making it a competitive game. If there is a measurable difference between players, you can always make a competition out of it.
I personally see mahjong not as a game of luck but rather "luck has dealt you the tiles, now show your skill". It's a game of decision making with what you have on hand. If one player chooses to fold with his hand while the other turns it into a mangan when dealt the exact same hand, it's not really luck anymore.
At first glance, I also find the thought of 30 or so teams playing at the same table with the same setup over and over terribly dull and uninspiring, almost makes me want to puke with how static the whole thing feels. However if you're out to measure skill, it's definitely needed and from the player's point of view, he and his opponents are going into a new round in a new match with new tiles. From their point of view, it's no different from a normal mahjong match. When you have 4 people, 68 discards and about 8.64*10^77 different ways to choose your final tiles and play those discards, you end up with a story that's unique and shared by everybody at the table.

It's not exactly the same thing but if you want to have a different perspective on this issue, try thinking of everything we're discussing as tetris. If at the world tetris championship the last two finalists were playing two different games of tetris and based on those scores the champion was decided, would that sit right with you?
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>>18150940
>Playing a duplicate game means the situations you see on the table are no longer unique
They're unique to you when you play them the first time. You aren't watching other tables as you play.
>cool experiences get cheapened into points of comparison
Why is the experience not cool anymore? Are shogi and go not cool?
>Duplicate poker is a load of garbage
Disagreed. It makes poker fun to play by getting money out of the picture.
>discourages variance in playstyles
Can you give examples? I can't imagine how this can be so.
>gambling
>mahjong is a noncompetitive game
Go play pachinko if you dislike playing mahjong for mahjong itself.
>>18151283
I agree with this post. However,
>30 or so teams playing at the same table
Only four teams. Using a greater or smaller number of tables means you're doing individual rather than team competition.
>he and his opponents are going into a new round in a new match with new tiles. From their point of view, it's no different from a normal mahjong match
This. You play the same way in duplicate mahjong, duplicate poker, and duplicate bridge, if you know how to play any of those games. The strategy is entirely the same. You just play the best you can play, because you love the game.
>you end up with a story that's unique and shared by everybody at the table
Even more can be shared. If you have friends not only at your table, but neighboring tables, you can discuss the plays with them too.
>tetris
Good example.

One thing I will note, is that duplicate mahjong isn't riichi, it's Chinese competitive mahjong, which I'm sure doesn't sit well with many people here. That, though, is truly personal preference.
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One might think
>Wouldn't competitive mahjong be like removing all the items from Super Smash Bros Melee, making it less fun?
But no, duplicate doesn't arise from changing the rules of the game, but from the way you set up the tournament. The gameplay remains as before. You could even pretend the other tables aren't there, if you wished to play without thinking about that.
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>>18151283
There are definitely strong and weak mahjong players. I like a stricter definition of competitive game: a competitive game is a game where skill is the only deciding factor in the outcome of the game. a true competitive game is one where the better player will win 100% of the time, but that doesn't mean you can't compete by playing mahjong, just that it takes too much to remove random factors in the game and that even if you do there's almost no value in a comparative score in terms of proving skill.

For your other example, I think it's a false equivalency because tetris has a 7-bag piece system where each player receives one of each piece in a random order; only the order of pieces changes, not the pieces each player receives. The point you're making though is why I disagree with mahjong being called competitive; the scores can vary too much despite player skill, and trying to normalize skill by comparing it to other players in the same position still isn't exact.
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>>18151888
I think I'm starting to see your point of why mahjong shouldn't be considered a competitive game. Unlike chess or go where certain moves are objectively better than others, mahjong is too iffy. If a "weak" player discards 4s from 14s and someone else deals into the chinroutou while the "strong" player discards 1s and everyone folds, it wouldn't sit right with me that the "strong" player didn't get rewarded. Not so much "luck based" than "unpredictable" and not skill based enough.
I guess the closest thing we can do is really only have the players play 2000 hanchan against each other to see who makes the better decision more often.
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>that one player that keeps dealing into your hands
someone's girlfriend is getting beat up at this very moment
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>>18152215
>Riichi, Ippatsu, 2 dora, 2 ura dora
>On a single tile wait in turn 4
You lucker (fucker)
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>>18151283
>If one player chooses to fold with his hand while the other turns it into a mangan when dealt the exact same hand, it's not really luck anymore.
Skill in mahjong is not about the result of a single decision. If there was a 95% chance of dealing into mangan and a 5% chance of winning a mangan, it doesn't mean that the person who happened to win the mangan is a better player. Duplicate mahjong does not make for a truly skill-based competitive format because this element of chance still exists. It also doesn't solve the imbalance of players in one seating position simply getting better draws than players in another seat.

Besides this, if one player in a given seat decides to call and another player in the same seat chooses not to, the drawing order changes completely and it's hard to say that it's still "duplicate" mahjong.

>>18151873
>This. You play the same way in duplicate mahjong, duplicate poker, and duplicate bridge, if you know how to play any of those games. The strategy is entirely the same. You just play the best you can play, because you love the game.
In order to be good at duplicate mahjong the strategy must necessarily change. In regular mahjong, your opponents are the players at your table, while in duplicate mahjong, your opponents are everyone who started in the same seating position as you. This has two big impacts on strategy - firstly, the entire field of strategy based on placement is no longer valid. Secondly, since you're competing with others with the same starting hands, there's incentive to outdo them by trying to make bigger hands - this therefore results in a big shift in hand-building strategy.

The first hanchan of IORMC 2016 was accidentally set for duplicate mahjong. I happened to luck my way into a seat with good draws and won some big hands to take first place in the hanchan, but a couple of other players in the same seat managed to win bigger than me. Does that mean they were more skilled, or were they just more aggressive? Were players in other seats less skilled?

I don't know about duplicate mahjong for non-riichi rulesets, but duplicate riichi mahjong will never be taken seriously by anyone who actually understands the game, and that's without even getting into the practical impossibilities of running a real world tournament.
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>>18149687
Personally I like to save up for a few months and play 6 or 8 games all at once (I feel like I play better if I marathon games), but you can also just play whenever you have spare chips. The whole "warchest" thing is just my personal play style I guess, should have explained that better.

What I do recommend is watching out for when ikkyokusen starts. IIRC it runs for like two or three days, and you get more of a reward for playing on the first day compared to the other days.
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>>18152910
3.0
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>>18152910
consider yourself fought
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daisangen guy omdt

good way to start out the new year w
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>Trim hand of junk that I don't need
>After 8 discards, I notice I've only discarded honors and terminals
>Only have 1-2 left, so it's probably not gonna be nagashi mangan anyway
>Fast forward, only one tile left in the wall, toimen has to discard
>Mfw shimocha actually chi's to destroy my dream
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>>18153646
This game was a hell of a ride. Not only that blue balling nagashi mangan in east, but also the entire south round in which toimen overtook me for a brief moment just to make room for shimocha again.

http://tenhou.net/3/?log=2018010409gm-0089-0000-9e126899&tw=0
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>>18152353
>the drawing order changes completely
Actually, they reroute that so that that doesn't occur.
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I've been trying out Jannavi, the gameplay is pretty slow, but it has some really fun options in the private games options:
Nagashi Yakuman
Yakuman Shibari
6 Aka
Shiisan Uushii
Shiisan Puutaa
Isshoku (x)jun and (x)Renkou (I believe it's one han for everything after two but I haven't won these)
And Pao (I think this turns it on for rinshans)

Really cool, lets you also make lobbies with bots which makes playing dumb games like these easier because you only need to rope in one friend to do so!
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>>18119768
Maujong. That's what I use.
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>>18151150
I knew it was risky but I wanted the win.
And I know this sounds stupid but my gut had a bad feeling about discarding 5m, so it didn't really matter to me which one of them I would discard, I was set on going for the toi toi
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>>18156662
Why can't I win the simplest hands when I have over two dora tiles?
Even when I'm in tenpai, have good flow, somebody (sometimes me) call a kan and I get fucked with the additional doras.
One time I even had a wait on like 3 tiles and couldn't win after several turns. Then some faggot wins by a fucking dead wall draw
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Too bad there's no bonus for getting way over +50.
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The worst part is that this isn't because I played like a retard but because luck fucked me over (I think).
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>>18160380
You probably played like a retard too.
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>>18160416
Yeah but I couldn't even win the rounds where I was somewhat decent.
Can't finish the big hands even with multiple waits and either the faggot who has a single wait calls Riichi and draws it himself or I get his winning tile after spending like 10 rounds in Riichi
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>>18160147
>expecting a bonus for whipping on ippan tier shit
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how lucky i am?
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>2017: doing great, maybe not tokujo bound but best in months
>2018: nothing but fucking 3rds and 4ths

fuck... isnt there a rabbit rabbit mantra for good luck? gimme something to fight off this bullshit
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>>18163454
That is the essence of hell
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>>18163454
Riichi'd player got hit with a double Ron, one of which was Houtei Raoyui only with 6 dora.
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>>18163454
Didn't mean to quote.
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>>18163454
Tell me about it.
I dropped from first Dan to 1Kyu and I keep losing
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>>18147598
No such board.
>>>/prog/
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How obvious was my wait?
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I feel the same way.
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>>18176448
While obvious as fuck - shimocha still drops it 'cause muh tenpai
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>>18177795
Yeah, but it kinda pisses me off because I'm on a losing streak and I can't win good hands with multiple waits. Even worse when I called riichi for tiles that should be available and after 10 rounds someone else calls riichi and I immediately have to deal his winninge tile or a double Ron.
Winning that hand was an insult and part of a punishment that I deserve for thinking I'm getting good
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>>18177952
>part of a punishment that I deserve for thinking I'm getting good
This is how you look at it. The other guy did something dumber than you.

And image related. I did something dumb here and got punished for it.
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>>18177974
I always do something like this lol
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>>18177952

>Winning that hand was an insult and part of a punishment that I deserve for thinking I'm getting good

I know that feel bro. you're not alone.

keep in mind that shit luck happens, don't be tempted to whitewash yourself of bad play or worse: a bad mindset

take some time off, pursue other interests for a bit and come back fresh. you'll get much better results than obsessing over losses.
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I can pick this hobby up.
Yoroshiku onegai shimasu, /jp/ Tell me some stories about when you were a novice in mahjong and didn't know anything about it.
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>>18179193
the guy that runs the meetup in LA has a pretty funny story about losing a bunch of cash walking into gambling den while trying to learn to play better.
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>>18179193
I used to be a novice in mahjong and didn't know anything about it. Then I learnt how to play and got better.
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>>18178923
I'm pursuing other interests, namely booze and pornography.

no downside to these!
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>>18179321
Well, I highly doubt there are gambling dens in here.

>>18179324
What made you want to learn how to play better.
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>>18179362
>What made you want to learn how to play better.
My desire to play at the OEMC some day. Also that it's simply a fun game.
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Got to 初段 for the first time. We'll see how long it lasts
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>>18180270
>My desire to play at the OEMC
I've been thinking about having that as a goal as well. Is it simply a matter of finding a group to join and then winning in tournaments? I have no idea where to start.
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>>18180270
>>18181568
>OEMC
Is that like the WRC?
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>>18181646
Google is your friend. It's the European Riichi association.
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>>18177974
Oh yeah? I just had a game where I called Riichi on a closed 5Man wait even though Toimen declared a Pon on them right before. I thought I was clever for choosing a hell wait. Then I saw that Shimocha discarded it in the fourth turn.

Luckily it made everyone paranoid and they destroyed their hands, even the leading Toimen but he managed to form another tenpai so I didn't get closer to him
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>>18179321
Because he got robbed or outplayed?
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>>18182680
outplayed. lmao
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>>18182680
he hangs here so he can tell it way better, but he started by winning an unlikely sanshoku dokou hand which scared the whole table, and followed up with a noten riichi fuckup that took all the air (and money) out of him
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>>18180270
>OEMC
But that shit is for MCR
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I've seen folks disconnect after getting ronned 8000. this motherfucker believed in the dream and created the s4 miracle.

I'll take my 2nd place, well played
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>>18182675
Karaten riichi. Best kind of riichi.
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>>18184509
Yes, that's the mahjong I play, because it is more fun.
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2:0 here
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Mahjong becomes quite dumb when both shimocha and kamicha disconnect.
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Come on
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>>18185142
I've seen people disconnect after getting ronned.
Just play man, you can still ruin the game for the guy who ronned you.
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>>18142644
So where can one find those graphs?
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>>18196270
Have fun

http://arcturus.su/tenhou/ranking/
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join the party

2:4
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Toki.
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>>18208091
-is a great way to relax after a massive loss
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>>18208219
How's Japanese whiskey? I've never had anything that wasn't Irish or Scottish.
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>>18209862
Can't speak from experience but it seems like folks on the whiskey thread on /ck/ like it well enough. Maybe a bit too overpriced, especially with import fees and such.
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>>18209862
good. I'm partial to Mars Iwai myself, but the most unique was Kikori which uses rice mash.

>>18209906
nice. another general traveller. been drinking your tullamote dew 1oz shots?
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How do you deal with the crushing realization you will never be good at or understand this game?
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>>18211062
Mahjong isn't a game that you get good at. It's a game that you get less worse at.
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>>18211298
It upsets me how bad I am.
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>Last south round, game being pretty close
>Dealer double riichi
>My first discard passes
>Pon shimocha's discard
>Shimocha chi's mine
>Discards winning tile
>Actually puts kamicha into 1st
The fuck did I just witness? I was even getting excited for a potential haneman or more with this.
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>>18211298
Only if you're playing something that isn't duplicate mahjong.
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Why can I only win at east round only games?
In east round only I do fine but if I play a full hanchan I get my ass kicked
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>>18213347
>pon on a double riichi
Isn't that a bit risky?
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>>18215821
Most likely you get impatient. In tonpussen you want to play very aggressively. In hanchan you want to wait until you have something. Just passing dealer 3 times after a big E1 won't work in hanchan.
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>>18215857
Breaking ippatsu is fine if you're confident your discard will be safe.
>>18213347
How are you seeing a haneman? Toitoi sanankou fanpai dora? Seems a bit of a stretch to me.
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>>18216366
>Breaking ippatsu is fine if you're confident your discard will be safe.
Breaking ippatsu can be a thing that happens in certain situations but it's faaaaaaaaaar from being something that should be done often and nobody should do it or recommend doing it without a good understanding of when, why and how. Pon to break ippatsu against a dealer double riichi is like triple plus ungood.
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>>18216366
>Breaking ippatsu is fine if you're confident your discard will be safe.
No it isn't. The problem especially with a pon like this is you now removed 2 safe tiles from your hand. If you are tenpai or have a ton of safety then you can consider it, but this is a bad play. Dealing in here basically guarantees 4th.
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>>18216486
It really only just clicked in my head that it was the dealer so a ryuukyoku wouldn't help.
Yeah, misjudgement on my part; keeping 2 genbutsu is better.
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>can easily spot mistakes when others play
>proceed to play like shit myself
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>>18216366
Toitoi san shoku dokou fanpai dora. That would've been even riskier though. I'd be happy enough to get anything
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Does the tenhou windows client still work? And are antivirus being a bunch of shitters calling it a trojan?
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>>18217633
Antivirus shouldn't be flagging it. They will often flag the crack, but that's because it's a crack.
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>>18217978
I've always been put off using the client because the crack comes up as dodgy. Am I being overly paranoid?
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>>18218176
The HTML5 version works just as fine, you're not missing much.
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>>18218176

AV a) suck dongs and are structurally incapable of functioning and b) flag pretty much all cracks no matter what
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>closed wait for 5 sou
>draw three tiles of each 4,6,7 sou
>third 4 sou discard, I deal into Kamichas closed 4 Sou wait

Eat a dick
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>>18211062
> understand this game
No matter what, there is some facet to the game that is not understood. It is a quest to seek that understanding.
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>>18233314
>closed wait
Whose fault do you think this is anon?
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What's the best arcade mahjong game?
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>>18235917
I wouldn't say anything it was just a loss but drawing all the tiles around it is just an insult.
But I think I cracked it. If you mute the BGM in tenhou client, you anger the tiles. That must be it.
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>>18239855
I always have the BGM muted, no wonder I play so poorly!
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>>18241224
You can go to the 雀荘 and lose money instead
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January was off to a good start.

Now I've finished 4th 5 times in a row.
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>>18079726
>2:0
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>>18243533
Hey, let's throw some more in for good measure.
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>>18243690
Jesus. Take a walk man.
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>2 people ron you at the same time
>shit
>it turns out to be fucking nothing
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>3 tile wait
>deal into a honor tile wait the turn after calling riichi
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>>18218199
I like to use the desktop client because you can customize the background (in a shitty way but whatever). Maybe there's some way to do that with the HTML5 version ?
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>yas卍

Which one of you fags is this?
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>>18250776
Isn't the backward swastika just a buddhist temple symbol in Japan?
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>>18251151
Maybe, but he was also the toimen so maybe I'm mistaken. It's the combination with "YAS" that made me a bit suspicious
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3.0
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>>18255543
this again
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2 glasses of whiskey makes mahjong fun
Worrying about your placement, your R and your rank doesn't make mahjong fun.
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>>18261213
this.

Mahjong has made me drink more than any other irritant in my life

aside from my kids
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>>18261213
>>18261238
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018012114gm-0009-0000-ec9e2c0c&tw=0
I'm not sure if I was in flow or just stupid.
But only in the second to last round I started to become somewhat aware

I still think I shouldn't have discarded the 1P
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>>18243690
I hope that it has turned around for you, because I'm starting to fall into dispair.
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>>18262368
I made a deal with a spider. I would spare its life should it give me luck.

It seems to have held up its share of the deal as the bullshit losses have stopped and my win rate has drastically improved...
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>>18263649
IT'S A TRICK ANON, DON'T FALL FOR ITS LIES!
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>>18263894
Fuck off, it just wants to make a web before spring starts and all those delicious flies/bugs start flying around
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>>18265250
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So, what was kamicha here thinking?
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>>18269295
>ippan
He might as well have been a monkey whacking away at a computer.
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>>18269295
He just really wanted to see a yakuman happen. Ryuuiisou is pretty rare so dealing into it to make it happen is totally acceptable.
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Can someone watch my replay and tell me where and when I'm retarded so I don't curse my luck? I want to improve, but I know sometimes the game can literally "just hate you", so I'm not sure if it's me. It's probably me, right?

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2018011804gm-0009-0000-c7715457&tw=2
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>>18270579
Let me look into this, but the first thing I noticed was that you threw out the valued east wind instead of the non-valued north. It immediately backfired when you drew another one. It isnt awful play by any means, but the distinction could have made all the difference: you could have kept that pair, called a 3rd one and possibly win with a shit hand which would have blocked toimen's dealer mangan.

I'm going to look at a few more rounds, but keep this as a general example: massive/stupid mistakes typically arent the issue, it's those small inefficient choices that aren't that bad on the surface that come back to haunt you
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>>18270579
E1-2: didnt see anything overly wrong really, it's a bit hard to get a point across when you end up winning
E2: ok, there's a lot of poor choices here... Basically you had three pairs, the 1m dora, the 5p (aka), and the North wind. you again kept north over the much better 46m closed wait. Much like the above scenario, it backfired in a big way when you drew 5m. You could have been in tenpai right then and there.
keep in mind, even if the 5m hadnt come, you could have easily gotten 6m or 3m which would have upgraded your closed wait to an open one.
Then there were some really questionable calls following those errors. you were clearly off kilter and needed to bail instead of trying to dodge the noten penalty. I don't think you need to hear why the aka 5m was a poor choice, but seriously, know when to bail and you were clearly past that point in this case.
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>>18270579
E2: ok, there's a lot of poor choices here... Basically you had three pairs, the 1m dora, the 5p (aka), and the North wind. you again kept north over the much better 46m closed wait. Much like the above scenario, it backfired in a big way when you drew 5m. You could have been in tenpai right then and there. keep in mind, even if the 5m hadnt come, you could have easily gotten 6m or 3m which would have upgraded your closed wait to an open one.Then there were some really questionable calls following those errors. you were clearly off kilter and needed to bail instead of trying to dodge the noten penalty. I don't think you need to hear why the aka 5m was a poor choice, but seriously, know when to bail and you were clearly past that point in this case.
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sorry for the repeat posts, phoneposting bullshit
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sorry for the repeat posts, phoneposting bullshit




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