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>New? Start here:
http://pastebin.com/vmW2qYkD

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn

>E+ Changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Release Thread:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014

>Previous Thread
>>18804278

Current Version: Elona+ 1.76fix (3/2/2018)
Latest Custom: E+C 1.76fix.1

Errors? Set the compatibility of the .exe to WINDOWS 7.
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Are attributes set up to slow down as you get more and more stats? Disregarding potential, I mean.

It feels like I keep eating herbed foods and quaffing potions of potential, but the stat gains are slowing down.
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So how viable is 1H+Shield for lategame compared to 2H and such?
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>>18828408
Shield is fucking useless
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>>18828408
Shield is garbage
Edgelord dual-wield or manly big club or get out
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How good is a Stormbringer and mounblade dual-wield build?
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>>18828628
You'll want to lower their weights a little to avoid accuracy penalties. Take a look at the dual wielding page on the wiki.
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Why the fuck does it cost 1.4million to "buy an indulgence"? That's autism. I only became a criminal because I forgot about a quest and got -60 karma due to using that Saint thing...
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>>18828915

Because the children over at Noyel needs to be fed desu
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>>18828938
FUCK YOU
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Should I monster ball one of these? Found it in a field while waiting to find corpses to bury.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Fox
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>>18828980
If you want one go for it.
They’re not like exceptional pets but I never let unoptimality get in the way of my set of pets.
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>>18829005
Cool, I'll keep him and turn him into a thrower for my amusement. Thanks.
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>>18826850
I believe I was trying to aim for 380s however when applying the cursed flying scrolls I couldn't control the exact weight the weapon would become so I overshot that amount a bit.
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How rare are gifts in Goods store? I've invested it to rank 100 and i still haven't seen any, should i invest another 50 or am i wasting my money?
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>>18829010
Just remember to teach them Pickpocket with gene engineering.
That lets any pet take care of their own funds soon enough.
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>>18829045
ohh, that's smart, thanks. Cool
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>>18829081
throw that at thots
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>>18829081
"I call it the Ex-Wife"
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>>18829138

Don't forget to give her this stupid shit of an amulet.
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>>18829177
If I give that as a gift to a really strong adventurer, will they wear it if they don't have a necklace already? 'Cuz I got a pair of gloves that "Combine nerve and poison" damage, and a really strong spellcaster...I'd love to get that adventurer's loot.
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>Finally in the OP for once
>Birthday shit
It's something
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I recently heard about this game and it looks amazing, any starting tips? I want to use a good and go rooty tooty point and shotty
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>>18829406
Use a gun I mean
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>>18829406
read the pastebin.

Also shotguns are shit most of the time and you're better off using melee due to effective range.
Snipers/Laser Guns are fair game though
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>>18829422
Shotguns are pretty great for Zero Shoot though.
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>>18829406
It's really hard to permanently screw up a character in Elona. Even dying is only a minor set back. Pick up a gun and learn along the way, you'll be fine.
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>>18829542

Except if you accidentally eat 55 little sisters though. I'm going to try for 70 before I give this venture up.
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>>18829585
>accidentally
What even happens when you eat them? I've never done it before.
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>>18829595

Eating her corpse *might* improve your mana/life and will train all of potentials slightly. It's also delicious.
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How do I leave a pet at the ranch? I had a little girl assigned as a breeder but now I caught a firedragon and want that to breed but I can't seem to get them both to stay at the ranch since they're both pets and one will follow me if I set the other as a breeder.

Do I have to abandon her at the ranch? Am I missing something here?
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>>18829733
Breeding works more like mitosis.
You leave one pet there and over time more appear there. It’s magic.
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>>18829813
Right, that's not the problem. The problem is that I can only set one breeder, but I have two pets that I want to stay at the ranch.
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>>18829851
If you want to breed both at the same time, you will need a second ranch.
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>>18828408
1H+Shield actually works, you'll lose roughly half of the damage but will get great protection boost.
The good part about sword and board is that you still can use heavy weapon, thus getting full bonus for crit damage multiplier. Furthermore, once you pile up damage multipliers from weapon skill, tactics and strength, you'll end up losing only something like 1/3 of damage in comparison to Two Hand.
The real downside is weak-ass gauge attack, but you can use rather good melee buff in exchange. Overall, shield's protection bonus may make it worth, especially on permadeath mode.
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>>18829860
I don't necessarily want them both breeding, I just want them to both stay there. The little girl spawned a new little girl who is just there on the ranch but isn't a pet, but I can "bring her out" to turn her into one. She's just like, living on the ranch now. How do I just have my pets turn into ranch cattle without being pets that are part if my party?
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>>18830011
Oh, that. I see.
You need a discarded ranch to “drop off” pets from your allies list, and it’s a special property that can only be purchased after doing some quests in act 2.
Until then the only option is to drop pets off at the dojo near the southern border.
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>>18830011
>>18830035
And if I wasn’t clear, going from “ranch cattle” to a pet is one way. No take-backs.
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>>18829914
>>18828408
I've been out of it for some versions. Is twohanding actually alright now compared to double-triple-quadruple etcwielding or unarmed?
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>>18830048

Outstanding hit-rate and full critical multiplier, decent tradeoff from getting all swords. In fact, dual wielding got nerfed in recent builds so there's that.

Two handing is still strong when trained, mate. You can still just stand by an NPC and charge for 10 turns before you whack them into the stratosphere.
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>>18830048
Yes.
Also apparently dodecawielding is slated to get nerfed.
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>>18830037
Fuck.
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How high should I get my Gardening skill before planting herb seeds?
Exaclty how does Dual Wield influence what weapon you can use together and what penalties are applied?
I saw an option to teach the pet a spell, but despite me having a dozen spells memorized, I can't teach anything. Why? The answer is probably because I'm retarded but still.
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>>18830143
You have to have level 50 of a spell before you can teach it to a pet.
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>>18830143
I saw an option to teach the pet a spell
need to have lv50 in that spell and pet need high enough casting. no casting requirement for heal light/magic dart.
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>>18830073
Speaking of which, it may not be optimal but damn if that “charged weapon” bit on some ranged weapons isn’t fun as fuck.
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>>18829422
>>18829542
>>18829411
What's the difference between marksman and firearm skill? I'm using guns, which one to pump?
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Guys where should I go to find a good goblin art for my paladin?
Everything I find on jewgle is tumblr art from wow.
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>>18830170
Actually its pretty effective, 15x damage, guaranteed crit and fixed 0% range penalty. Oneshotting big daddies has never been this easy.
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>>18830215
NERF
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>>18830197
marksman gives a bonus to all ranged weapons aside from thrown, and each weapon type got separate skill on top of it. marksman is more important due to bonus actions you can learn with it.
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>>18830228
Fuck I already put like 20 points into fireams
Anything else noteworthy?
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>>18830153
>>18830160
Wow, that's a lot. So only way to train the spell is to cast it? Is it profitable to spend platinum to train potential (attend magical practice or something like that) or is it a waste of shekels?
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>>18830232
If you’re using guns you still want firearms.
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>>18830246
How do I stop getting fucked by slimes?
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>>18830170
What does it show up as exactly?
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>>18830233
Actually, can I ask this too? I'm a purely melee guy, but I'd love to teach a cool spell or two to my pet...
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>>18830233
Magic practice trains all spells in a category considerably, so you DON’T have to spam cast them. It uses up potential, it doesn’t give it.
Spell potential increases on its own by sleeping in a bed.
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>>18830233
magic training is pretty useful if you have high potentials, at the very least it gives enormous amount of exp early(below 40lv) if you know many spells.
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>>18830251
“It enhances charging” or something like that. It’s a rare enchant.
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>>18830251
>>18830262
Oh yeah, you need the Charge special action to actually make use of the enchant.
It doesn’t give it to you for free.
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>>18830255
>>18830257
Time to harvest the shit out of vegetables, I need my platinum coins now more than ever. Thanks for the answers guys.
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>>18830233
Each spell has its own potential that goes up to 400% and returns to 400% fairly quickly after leveling, within a day or two. For spells like magic dart that are cheap and you always have a huge stock, just spam it on everything. For rarer spells, wait until you have 400%, cast until you level, and repeat.
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>>18830279

Nani?
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>>18830276
Make sure you have your attribute potentials up before getting magic training. You can get several MAG and WIL increases all at once.
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>>18830290
Well that begs the question - how high do I need to get my Gardening so I can reliably harvest herbs? Because I don't know other ways to raise my potentials except to sleep and herb the fuck out.
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Is claymore gimped early game compared to warrior? I liked the manga a lot but looking at the skills they seem more like a Witcher than anything else. Claymores wore plate and didn't really use magic as much as physical enhancement from their partial possession
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>>18830262
>>18830267
I expected I'd have to find it but I'm glad it exists at all.

I wanted to add a ranged character to my party but I didn't know how to make whoever that would be have some game plan beyond the inelegance of spamming ranged attack/zero shoot.

Ulm-Leson calls! Tonight, I make a *Soul Mate* out of a half-dragon!
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>>18830329
At 41+ Gardening you have the optimal level for farming herbs.
You will want to plant and harvest in the rain for best odds of the plants regrowing/not wilting.
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What do I do early game?

>have success with the hunting quest and robber hideout
>cool, let's clear ou the other combat quests
>girl calls me to go kill some slimes
>sure thing
>fucking kills my friend and me
>try the next hunting quest, also get fucked
>not sure what equipment (guns) to try and get before leaving the first town
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>>18830329

Ask fewer question about trivial shit like that and just play the game, nigger. You can plant everything and anything whenever and wherever you want. Just know that planting seeds when it's raining cuts the likelihood for it to die in half and dead plants can be redeemed easily with the Trapgod's anal bead.
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>>18830364
Just rain or hard rain?
Well 41 gardening is far, far away. Time to get to grinding, I guess.
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i think i sold my fetters of earth in the shop by accident
:(
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>>18830369
And what shit do you consider non-trivial, you inbred piece of garbage? Do tell me what questions are allowed in this thread.
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>>18830368
The slime quest in a noobtrap, your best bet is to do the puppy quest instead, and run around the world map doing the level 1 and 2 random dungeons.
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>>18830369
fuck off dumb nigger
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>>18830375
Either one. It looks for no weather, snow, or etherwind for the penalty.
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>>18830329
Also don’t listen to the retard; plant on field tiles on farms for non-shitty results.
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That's kind of harsh, don't you think?
[spoler]I know I'm an Elea, but still, fuck you, bitch.[/spoiler]
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>>18830457
next time, ctrl+s in reply box.
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>>18830462
Too easy.
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>>18830368
Generally how my early game pans out is as follows:
>do non-combat errands for quick cash and platinum
>learn gardening and negotiation if I don't already have it
>do harvest time quests for seeds, bronze, gold, and platinum
>start buying and selling cargo as I travel between towns for even more cash
>join the fighters guild as soon as possible for cheap upgrades to my weapons and armor
>start doing hunting quests once my armor and weapons are strong enough
>make enough money to buy a shop and a farm
>set up my shop and farm, start rolling in dough
I do all of this without touching a single dungeon. Might not be your preferred playstyle, but it has always worked for me.
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>>18830478
Not really much reason to do dungeons early on, unless you want to pick up miscellaneous items off the ground in the puppy cave.
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>>18830528
>>18830478
Dungeon diving is pointless unless you are able to kill big daddies.
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>>18830617
>t. Yerles manlet who is afraid to go dungeon diving
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>>18830617
>mfw I've been repeatedly dungeon diving as a fairy wizard
On the downside I've died a lot, but on the upside my magic dart spell can one-shot most enemies I encounter now
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Today I learned you can collect materials from yourself
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>>18830638
>poorfag who tries to survive by cleaning up dungeon floors
useless stuff is useless, no big daddies no real benefit from nefias, job board is more profitable.
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>>18830676
what???
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>>18830683
say that to my shop, kid
5 floors of puppy dungeon = 250k
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>>18830676
Technically it's collecting from every eligible pet on-screen.
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>>18830674
>and then 10 levels later it cant even put a scratch on anyone. I did the same with my fairies(except death, since loss mode), but quite soon realized that its better to get water bolt+lightning bolt or some ball spells.
>>18830691
250k is nothing unless you get it reliably. cure corruption pots are usually spawned every 3-10 floors, you can do a dozen of party times for the same gold and bonus tickets during this time, and thats disregarding the part where you actually need hundreds of PP early for essential skills.
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>>18830697
Ah that makes sense. kinda wish the QOL stuff wasn't buried

>>18830688
Interacting with yourself brings up the option
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>>18830709
>you actually need hundreds of PP early for essential skills.
Well, not really now that there’s skill tickets.
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>>18830750
Even with tickets its not enough, you learn skill and then spend a couple of pp for initial potential boost. Alltogether it still sums up in hundreds of pp.
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>>18830779
I always put a few points into new skills instead of blowing more pp on them right away. But that’s me.
Between that and now tickets it’s much easier to get yourself skills.
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>>18830714
HAHAHAHAHS
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>>18830709
Are you joking? That's 250k from just random scrolls and gear and shit. My Juere Swordsman can pump out 100k from 10 items.
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Hmmmm.....

By the way, is chat working yet? I havent played this game in like a year.
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>>18830887
>random scrolls
only oracle scrolls have some worth, 1 per floor usually, sometimes up to 3. worth something like 5k at your shop
equipment there is worth less than a shit of the same weight, literally
5 floors will net you 50k max usually, unless you get lucky with cure corruption pot, no mats and you'll have to clean the floor like a nigger you are.
Well to each his own.

>>18830909
No.
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>>18830933
My shokeeper with his perks turns random garbage into gold, pure gold.
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>>18830935
You mean you have shopkeeper feats already and still bum around the noob dungeon for cheap loot?
what a bum
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>>18830946
yeah, five floors of puppy and I get 250k. Great for throwing it in my pets faces.
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>>18830946
>>18830949
Oh, yeah, and I find altars, fountains, cure corruptions plus gain friendship levels with my pets. AS WELL AS the gold. Win-win.
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>>18830953
Its like there is summertime and you are praising kiddie pool for the sole fact that it has water inside, yet you have a huge water park right next door, accessible for free.
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>>18830982
Stay mad, child.
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>>18830984
Have fun in kiddie pool, poorfag.
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About when are you strong enough to take on the inner gods? Is there a way to know, or do you just guess when you're ready and have a go?
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>>18831169
When you can beat Gwen the Pitiless for the 200th time.
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>>18831169
wiki has their stats.
some gods can only be safely killed with meteor or excessive overleveling, especially if you are meelee.
>>18831179
Gwen is easy, lv300 Gwen is weaker than god avatars, You need to kill her 500-700 times to get something remotely similar,
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So what else should I wish for? I already got the boots for easy traveling and I'm not too sure what to pick up next.
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>>18831563
summon a god to get last reward, ALP, descent pot, shift core
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>>18831592
ALP?
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>>18831612
Astral Light Pen
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>>18831613
Ah right I was eyeing that for a bit as well.
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>>18831563
You could wish for skills you're missing.
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>>18831626
It was only useful for vanilla, really.
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>>18830691
>>18830949
There's nothing wrong with having fun in the puppy cave, but if you want actual progress in a reasonable amount of time it's not worth it past the early game. You need AP and sisters for Kumi statues to start an herb farm, and gain more actual exp+skill training anywhere else. If money is your only concern you'd be better off in the earlier floors of the Void (rushing static medals to get a license), as higher grade items are spawned on average meaning more money. You'll get high amounts of exp and more importantly AP while defeating the level-boosted monsters that are still easy to defeat because of their weak base types.
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>>18831626
Nah the only important stuff I'm missing is from the mages guild and I have the books for entry. Just gotta get the plat for it and go down and get them.
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>>18831634
Yeah, sure, give bad information to people. Amazing.
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>>18831672
>>>/v/
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Saw this game on /v/ will this game work with steam controller and steam link I'm having issues setting it up nothing is working and I'm very interested in this game
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>>18831698
>doctor, i have THAT, you know, THAT!
I doubt you can get any info on that regard here, aside from the fact that Elona has basic joystick support. Its a steam issue, lurk steam support/forums,
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>>18831672
Please post your character and pets. I want to know what I should not end up like. Staying in the puppy caves might give you gold but there is no possible way you or your pets can be that strong if you honestly are making most of your gold there.
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>>18831808
>level 45
>67 hours
>anorexic dwarf
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>>18831756
So like how do I ask for help for w game that doesn't exist on steam? I'm confused
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>>18831835
Don't bully me, I'm a fairy at heart
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>>18831837
You said literally nothing about your problem, and it should be a general steam question rather than game-specific either way. google how to use link with non-steam games.
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>>18831842
a bit more cursed milk and you'll get fairy body too
i wonder if those 'bitches' are actually intensive care unit staff.
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>>18831862
Well I will explain all right now.

So I did make it a shortcut and the game loads up but it doesn't let me grab items select skills and inventory

ALL i can do is walk and talk to people
I put the controls for what was in the game on the controller and it doesn't work.

When i go to gamepad mode it doesn't let me change my setup either it just keeps on leaving the menu and it goes to the game.

Is there a way to keybind this game?
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>>18831835
if you think that's bad, wait till you see mine
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>>18831808
You could have easily reached your current progress in a third of the time. This is your first character and you've only played for 60 hours, yet you seem under the impression that you know more than you actually do.
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>>18831902
I know everything.

>>18831870
I blame the potion-throwers.
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Is there any good NPCs to copy using a astral light pen in act 1? Or is everything good in act 2 and onward?
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>>18831892
>starving
Anon please. Nice evade %, though.
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>>18831920
All the best NPCs are in act 1.
Like, karata
and also, Karata.
Jokes aside, there are several interesting NPCs in adventurer seminar aside from Karata. Mito has gravity accel buff that she could spam for the party, there was also strings assasin-based char, rocket launcher buddy and some more. They were pretty much made to act as unusual pets.
There is also a witch at the abode of the witch, she is plenty powerful as well(needs high level, though, you'll get to act2 earlier)
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Pick Elea. Get into game and realize the whole world hates your kind, kobolds get excited seeing you, and other Elea hate other Elea. I wish the Elea description at character gen told me how hated I was.
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>>18831881
Have you tried chosing joystick controls in game settings?
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>>18832000
>>18831989
It closes out of the menu
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>>18832030
?? dont really understand
Anyway, google how to use steam link with older non-steam games, Elona uses generic old windows api to handle controls, steam issue.
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I'm starting Elona again after years of not playing it. Furthest I got before was with a bard mage, finished first continent and stopped there.

Anything I should note before plunging in again? Might start with a melee run since I haven't tried that yet.
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>>18832092
crafting was reworked, several more gameplay styles were added, you can now add limbs of your choice up to 15 total in exchange of high amount of life.
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>>18832108
Do I need to be a mutant to add limbs?
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>>18832114
no.
base races have 13 body parts so they can add 2 more at the cost of 10% lower speed. Its more fun to do this with snail/debug races, though.
I'd suggest just playing normal as before, you can discover new stuf along the way.
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How do you guys deal with the 200 item limit? Does 4d pocket also have a limit on the number of items it can hold?
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>>18832135
warehouses/home/bookshelves and potion racks at home/multiple floors at home/4DP(yes it does scale maximum number of items with spell level)/stop hoarding all this shitty junk.
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How and when can i start crafting lightsabers the wiki is of little help.
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>>18832174
wiki pot of fusion.
you need a lightsaber or several evo hearts and a sword to begin.
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>>18832135
4D's limits are based on the spell. If the wiki is correct, you can put 15 (plus spell level) items on it (up to 300 items), and each item/stack can't be heavier than 5.0s (plus spell level). I really dislike the stamina costs when managing items, so I prefer to avoid using it as much as possible.
I just don't carry too much stuff in my inventory. Only a few essential potions and scrolls, travelling gear, food, currency items (medals, cure corruption, oracle, etc), some tools, passive items and ores/crystals (for quests). I also bought a pair of stairs in Jure Festival and I turned it into a storage floor. Better than a storage house since I don't have to leave my house to manage my stuff.

>>18832174
First you need a katana-type weapon, a evolution heart and "sharp stuff" (from carpentry recipes). Use them with the Pot of Fusion's Equip Update recipe to get you get a lightsaber. You can also buy it from street vendors during Ludus' Rain Festival, or get lucky with monster/dungeon loot.
With that one lightsaber, combine it with sharp materials (carpentry again) and stardusts by using the Pot of Fusion's Equip Making recipe to generate 3 new lightsabers.
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>>18832225
>>18832181
Well, Evolution Hearts is something I'm not lacking. This game throws them at you...
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Anything wrong with my AI? Both of them don't know what to do at times and just freeze up. I have "Player Distance > 3 Move forward" and Healing Rain set with Preserve Entity. The one on the right stops responding very rarely but the one on the left does it pretty often.
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what's a good race/class for someone who wants to do farming quests, and utilize the independent trait?

bonus question: is independent even viable or do you just always want buddies
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>>18832945
i just realized, wouldn't farming quests be annoying as shit without a companion to stop you from getting interrupted? i guess i could just use one for that and throw them away later
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>>18832379
check the usual ammo/weapon/directive onslaught
healing rain rain doesnt need preserver, left preserve everywhere but for self, right stops when target is around the corner, there is no directive to get closer. previous threads had guides dedicated to that shit.
>>18832945
you have to clear the area first for solo
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>>18832945
Going solo is perfectly viable and by extension so is independent, you'll have a tough time in some situations but your character will grow faster
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>>18832379

I feel like some of the issues player often encounter with the custom AI is based on the fact that they chose to make it move based on the player.
You'll need to resolve this one yourself but I think you need to know that AIs execute orders from top to the bottom based on which is viable first (EX: If 1 is not possible and 2 is, do 2. If 1 is possible, but 2 is also possible, do 1 because it's at the top and 2 is not checked.)

With that said, you might want to arrange it like so:

Failsafe (Brainwash/low HP heal/etc.)
Buff (If no buff, buff up.)
Abilities (special shit)
Basic attack. (Melee/ranged)
Movement. (To/away enemy)

I can't and don't want to troubleshoot your pet on my own. You'll have to do that yourself. Just go to random forest tile and give it orders one by one and see which is causing the errors.
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>>18833046
i just made this idiot in order to run around rapidly and shoot sniper rifles, am i going to hate myself? ive never done gunnery or fairies at all im spooked
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>>18833079

Yes. You'll find yourself wielding a paper sniper rifle and paper bullets and deal no damage.

OR

Decent sniper rifle/bullets but explode into gibs the moment a putit sneeze at you.

You'll also be pissed by the fact you'll miss a lot of shots because DURR SNIPER RIFLE.
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>>18833079
get noobmachinegun first and turn it into glass/bone material, sniper rifles are for grown ups, not kids like yourself
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>>18833102
sorry i'm blind, just noticed fairy
my suggestion is: remove this character for existence and make something that actually makes sense. that is all.
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>>18833126
its actually not that awful so far, having 150 speed and zooming around can do hunting, farming, delivery quests all very easily

i plan on going farming god for stamina gain and just running away and shooting as much as possible, probably will hit a brick wall somewhere
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>>18833144
Lategame for fairy with ranged/twohand/sword and board focus is gimped, because no crits. ranged deals so little damage that it becomes utterly useful if you take away even crit multiplier from it.
Its ok if you just want to play around for a bit and just dump her when you are bored, just dont aim for anything seriouslike killing inner gods.
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>>18833185
>utterly useful
useless* I mean.

that was weird
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>>18832379
Ranged attacks' max range is 5, I believe draw shadow and throw potion also have the same range limit.
That doesn't look like the only issue, though. Like >>18833063 said, your lines are all over the place,you need to fix that.
Also, healing rain without a MP check will probably get your pet killed (like in a situation where your pet have low HP and zero MP).
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>>18833459
Spacts usually have max range around 8-10. Remember when cucumbers raped your cute ass while being out of sight? Thats the best proof.
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>>18833470
Some ranged weapons also have their max range above 5, but apparently Custom AI changes that and limits them to 5 tiles. But I never used draw shadow and throw potion on my pets, so I'm not absolutely sure if this rule also applies to them.
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>>18833524
Original AI prevents NPC from using distant attack beyond 5 tiles, its unrelated to ranged modifiers.
You can test max distances easily by sandbagging npc and displacing a pet who tries to use certain directive.
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>kill gwen
>she drops this

I knew she was retarded, but not that she was also lewd.
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Anyone have a Ranma or any monk/martial artist PCC?
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What the hell? Is this new? What does it mean?
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The spirit of bread will always be with you..
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>>18834045
Nevermind figured it out.
This happened in Vernis so am trying to get the depressed guy to die and drop his sword.
Is this a bad idea? Will I fuck something up?
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>>18834073
>Is this a bad idea?
Killing someone innocent to get his possessions? Always a good idea in Elona.
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>>18834110
Alrighty got his sword and my character is level 4. I think this will be a fun a character to play as...
Anyone else I should be executing in vernis for their stuff?
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>>18834148

Loyter of Zanan, simply because he is a piece of shit. Spam accuse on him too.
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>>18832945
>>18832948
Early on, completing Harvest Time quests without a pet is extremely difficult.
Even if you're doing solo, having a pet you can pull up when you're in need of it is a good idea. It's also easy to do once you get the Call Familiar Feat at 30 charisma.
As for best race/class for farming quests I'd personally go for Yerles Farmer. It gives you everything you need for a farming-based character
Any other race should work fine, but I tend to prefer Yerles due to the extra life and extra skill points.
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Wiki says I should burn altars and put the fire down to convert it, giving a 5X favor bonus, how do I accomplish this?
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>>18834286
Dont waste your time.
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Always remember to hate Lomias.
Even this Semtis fellow beat Lomias up for his bow.
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I'm finally strong enough to take on Big Daddies. What's the deal with the reward for turning in the little sisters? Do they just offer you precious items that you've already found?
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>>18834347
That you've identified before. So dont forget to identify hero cheese and stuff.
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>>18834286
It's not worth the effort, eventually you will unlock Challenge/Panic quests that will always generate new altars (in cities with altars, like Palmia and Noyel).

>>18834347
Yeah, it's supposed to be a "lost and found" feature, but you can use it to get more copies certain special items, like Kumiromi Statues and Hero Cheese, because they won't turn into stardust like precious equipment you already have.
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>wished for seven league boots
>died ten minutes later and lost the boots
Oh wow. No money, no boots, hopeless potential at every attribute. Early game is gonna be hard - or, more accurately, even more grindey than usual.
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>>18834521

Play on loss mode.
That way you die or you don't.
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>>18834527
Elona isn't the type of game to play with permadeath. Too much shit to farm and to do.
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>>18834148
>fighting the final boss of a random dungeon
>LET'S RAGNAROK!
>oh shit
>I was sitting on the stairs while fighting the boss anyway
>go back up
>it summoned etherwind
>have to run back to the closest city without a scroll of return, all while being "Burden!"
>final reach the closest city, palmia
>etherwind ended

Okay this sword is fun but fuck me am gonna start growing horns and tails real fucking soon, arent I?
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Oh fuck guys I just got a Lucky Day, what do?
I'm only level 7 and just started the game and I'm in that castle town.
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>>18832948
>>18834244
A few levels of stealth (10~20, I think) will stop off-screen bats/rabbits from hunting you down immediately, giving you enough time to harvest as long you killed everything on your line of sight. Not being as slow as a golem/snail also helps a lot, and casting/drinking Hero/Speed buffs always helps.
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>>18834559
You get a buff that increases your luck. Since you are a low level player, just go to the casino (Palmia, the "castle town", have one) and play some Blackjack with 1-chip bets. Try to aim for 6 victories per game to get cure corruption potions.
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>>18834559
>just realised the town I'm in has a casino
G-guys? Is this my destiny?
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>>18834589
Is that all I should aim for?
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>>18834478
Well, shit. Guess I'm gonna have to get another hero cheese so I can identify it.
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>>18834595
The more wins the better but as long as you reach 6 consecutive wins you should consider it a victory
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>>18831902
>You could have easily reached your current progress in a third of the time.
Not him, but holy fuck thank you for reminding how much of a shitter I am considering I'm about at his same play time with like half the stats.
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>>18834631
So I just gamble 1 chip at a time until I run out? I got 6 wins already, what do I do with the potion?
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>>18834645
Sell it for big monies.
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>>18834645
keep to trade for good stuff with adventurers, or sell in your shop if you are in ugent need for gold.
Better bless it first, increases price by 20%.
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>>18834645
>So I just gamble 1 chip at a time until I run out?
Yeah.
If you cheat and get caught, you'll lose all the rewards you haven't already claimed though. If you plan on cheating i recommend you back out, claim the potion, and then play again.
Just keep the potion in your house/inventory until you get an ether disease.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Ether_Disease
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>>18834685
>>18834696
I don't even have my own property yet, in what order should I buy them? What are some good places for homes?

>>18834698
My dexterity is like 14, I doubt that's enough to cheat
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>>18834721
Personally, i just keep a cave until i have enough for palace. First comes shop, next is ranch/farm. Somewhere near Palmia, port kapul is good, better right next to town.
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>>18834595
For a level 7 character, yeah.
You can also use lucky days for max-chip bets on casino (godly gear and other nice rewards), equipment crafting with pot of fusion, and maybe dungeon diving (during fever time).
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>>18834721
You don't really need any property early on, you can just sell stuff to vendors. Selling your cure corruption potions can be a big source of income for a new character. Once you get enough money I'd recommend a shop for earning even bigger monies.

Ranches are nice because you can breed things like putits to boost your charisma and farms are nice for getting lots of stat boosting food. Ranches and Shops each need a pet to staff them, so getting them too early can leave you short handed in dungeons.
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>>18828514

No it's not. It's perfectly beautiful bell and I am going to stick my dick in it and cover it with my jizz.
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>>18834806
Dont sell cure corruption pot to vendors, there is a very low upper value for selling expensive items to vendor, so instead of 25k gold you'll get 2k.
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>>18834889
Not really sure what you're talking about, I just sold one for 16k to a vendor.
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>>18834901
Upper value depends on character level.
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>>18834929
Ah, that makes sense. I guess it would be a waste to vendor them early on then.
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>>18834944
Lack of negotiation skill will also play a role. Much more efficient to just farm quests and level negotiation with cargo trading along the way, get a shop and then sell all that expensive stuff you gathered along the way.
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>the holy beasts are all Eyth's infidels.
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This is why you back up your save on daily basis, kids.
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>>18834521
Play purge mode to win the game
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>>18835073
At least you don't have to deal with mountains and rivers anymore, walking straight to your destination will be a lot faster now.
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>>18835073
What?
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Never gets old.
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>>18835073
My first character went out like this. Far worse than losing to an actual death
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>>18835073
Reminder that Elona Extender got builtin backup feature.
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>>18835073
Nevermind, the entire game got corrupted.
And this is why you back your your entire game folder. Coincidentally i saved my folder today so i only lost around 4-5 hours.

>>18835094
I also have decreased weight and height for extra aerodynamics and speed.

>>18835101
The game got corrupted, probably because i ran out of storage space in my hard drive.
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>>18835172
>probably because i ran out of storage space in my hard drive.
Anon, I think it's time to delete a few doujins and HD videos from that 1.5 TB porn folder.
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Accidently found my old Elona Shooter save files and decided to give it a try again. Didnt really play it after it's last update on Kongregate and as intended this game got me hooked on original Elona.

I noticed just how many cool features and ideas Noa had for combat. I wish Elona had at least some parts - like ranged penalty negation by occuracy, slow-moving splash attack, penetrating attacks, adjustable ai behavior for companions, a bunch of class-locked skills that alter weapon effects and mods that present additional alterations. It even has a whole bunch of nice body PCCs just for the sake of extra flavor.
I wonder why none of this was implemented one way or another in the original game before he dropped the project.

Its rather interesting that you could just leave it at full auto and only manage equipment/upgrades between rounds, reminds me of my Elona party with Custom AI-scripted pets.
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>>18835337
That's just completely ridiculous. It's only 1TB.
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>>18835365
Man I played the shit out of that way back, even played it together with roommates and competed to see who was the fucking strong. The cute imouto sounds, gunfire and frantic clicking reverberated against the walls
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>>18835365
oh fuck I remember this. Is there any place to download it? I'm not interested in playing it on some shitty website
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>>18835337
>deleting porn
...Sacrilege!
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>>18835378
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/tfo8XPJ4sJm0YCRtCljuC219RzjgDBnWBWtF29WyeVL1fpgOwm8XvqWLbF9lKgBm/file?dl=1
Courtesy of Astraltor from elona discord/irc. Just run the bat file to start.
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>>18835393
You're a wonderful man, unless you're infecting my system, which in case, I hope it still works regardless!
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Is there any reason to use a musical instrument for performance when preaching uses my higher skill, faith, AND uses the faith skill of my entire party?
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>>18835393
>>18835411
Wait, no, I reiterate; the link doesn't work. Unless its on my end, it simply says 404.
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>>18835415
Oh, right. My bad, just copied the link used for archive.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ufirfjuwk0j50q/elona_shooter_prepackaged.zip?dl=1
This one should work.

>>18835414
Only if you need random drops from performing. No drops for preach/dance.
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>>18835428
Neat. Again, thanks.
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>>18834955
>>18834738
>>18834742
>>18834806
So I just do quests until I have enough for a shop?

>saved up 44k
>shop is 175k
Fuck, and I'm getting raped in any dungeon that's not puppy cave
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>>18835457
Even the level 1 and 2 random ones? You should go to derphy and buy a couple of pets. A nurse and a yerles infantry will do perfectly well. With that crew low level dungeons will become a breeze.
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>>18835457
Puppy cave isnt that bad, you can find a lot of expensive/useful stuff on the floor here. Safe option is trading cargo (check wiki for routes) and doing quests in each town you visit.
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>>18835466
I haven't went into random ones, I recently went into yeek cave and barely made it out alive

I have a child dragon and little girl, can I toughen them up or is it best to abandon them?

>>18835471
I just got fucked by highwaymen though
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>>18835475
Of course you can toughen them up, pets are the tits if you know how to raise them.
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>>18835475
Always have teleport rod/scroll ready and use it when they ambush you. You have one free turn to use it before they start attacking you, pretty safe if you have low fame.
Dragon child is one of the best possible pets in this game, if not the best.
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>>18835475
I'm level 40 and I still use both the dragon and little girl, the dragon is extremely tough and the little girl is pretty versatile.
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>>18835475
actually the low level random dungeons are perfect for early dungeoneering. The final boss will be around level 6 or so which is easy as fuck.

And about pets, you can keep any pet and work on its stats to make it godly. In fact that's what makes 90% of the autists here tick, caring for our virtual imoutos is a drug.
Especially if you have the monstergirls mod, then you just want to keep a cute collection
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>>18835475
>I just got fucked by highwaymen though
Always carry at least one teleportation rod. It makes escaping bandit encounters much easier.
Once you get strong enough you can slaughter the bandits for easy loot.
Keep the fire dragon child, it's one of the best pets in the game. The little girl is fine as well.
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>>18835475
Fire@dragon child whoops ass and evolves multiple times and is just generally insane. Keep it, gene engineer limbs onto it, and it'll serve you all the way through the game.
Little girl is pretty serviceable as well and also has a bunch of evolutions. But honestly you can make any pet very strong with a bit of juice.
Gene engineer pickpocketing onto every pet you get. It makes their potentials easier to keep up than yours, honestly.
Also teach shadowstep to melee pets with the custom AI menus.
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>>18835495
>implying the prospect of having a dragon/centaur waifu wasn't what made me finally play

Also any tips as a guuner?
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>>18835504

>Find a bottle of water.
>Bring your little girl
>Go to Utima's
>Watch your little girl gets obliterated
>[T]hrow your bottle of water at Utima and watch him short-circuit
>Grab his railgun

Congratulations, you win North Tyris as a gunner.
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>>18835500
>gene engineer limbs onto it
Should I give it hands and a weapon? Its martial arts seems to be good enough as is, I dont want to gimp her by giving her a weapon.
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>>18835504
Branch into magic as soon as possible.
It's extremely useful overall and compliments gunning very well.
>>18835531
I don't think it works like that anon.
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>>18835500
>gene engineer limbs onto it,
Its probably better to not add feet/hand slots, its probably the most powerful MA pet, especially if you teach him water ball later with Curstom AI, just switch the Attribue element to ice/lightning and watch the carnage.

>>18835504
Enjoy the suffering.
get railgun when you are strong enough
use machineguns til then
energy ammo is the best since it got aoe gauge attack
hunt for 'burst', 'piercing' and explosive ammo below miracle levele (without names in <> or {}), use http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Garok's_hammer on it later to get a great piece of equipment.

>>18835531
I wish.
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>>18835543
My 2d10 lasr pistol seems to be doing pretty well, why machine guns over that?

>>18835541
How? Don't know anything about magic
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>>18835541
DON'T LISTEN TO THIS FUCKER
Magic is for weak ass pussies.
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>>18835555
Also It's aropund october and heavy rains keep fucking up my travel, should I make my little girl hold a shelter?
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>>18835555
Read books, cast spells, sleep for potentials, fuck bitches.
Mage's guild for the spell book writer.
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>>18835555
Very high hitrate and base damage do wonders during early game.

Magic is very useful to maintain buffs, especially concentration for gunner and generally useful regeneration for SP regen boost.

>>18835559
I wonder if /b/ level of trolling is actually bannable here.
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>>18835568
You can use training books(blue ones) and training machine in cyber dome repeatedly during bad weather/etherwind.
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>>18835555
All you really need are the Casting and Literacy skills. Gunner comes with the latter, while the Eulderna, Fairy, Elea, and Lich races all start with the former.
If you aren't playing as any of those races, you can learn Casting at the trainer in Palmia and Lumiest.
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>>18835570
>>18835569
>>18835595
Sounds fucking great, I actually wanted to be a magic gunner but I decided to focus on learning how to shoot first

I just picked up performance ,is it worth it?
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>little girl is going to have a baby

Wait hold the fuck up what's going on here
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>>18835541

Yeah it does. I am going to go into the void and try it on Utima there.
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>>18835631
Uh-oh. Make her drink acid, quick.
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>>18835631
Feed her sulfuric acid
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>>18835620
>I just picked up performance ,is it worth it?
Hardly, but you can use it as a non-combat occupation to supply you with loot. Training perform is a pain in the ass, though. Below lv30 perform you are useless.

>>18835632
Wait what? Normal water bottle?
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>>18835631
Congratulations, anon.
You're going to be a father.
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>>18835631
Stay in a city until she gives birth.
Preferably somewhere with lots of NPCs but no guards.
:^)
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>>18835634
>>18835643
>>18835645
I just bought some, how do I feed it to her? Just give it to her?
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>>18835658
Yep
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>>18835658
Give/throw at her poison or dye bottle. Other sources of poison/acid will kill her(still aborts the child properly)
Elona is a wonderful game, after all.
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>>18835662
>throwing things at your wife
Abusive husbands please go and stay go. Much nicer to make her drink acid.
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>>18835644

I'll have to find Utima first, though.
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>>18835680
welcome to elona
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Pet arena is full of fun.
>I get 3 alkonost, death maneki and some assorted shit as my enemy
>hitting esc furiously
>still got death word
>be on loss mode
>desperately count number of tiles til the job board, whether i could get in hunting/party time quest in time or not
>suddenly remember about gladiator arna
>cant join vs many, cooldown
>fuck
>try solo, it works
>died with dignity
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>>18835680
You didn't listen to my advice and permanently infect everyone in town with aliens. :(

On an unrelated note, Shena just got killed in an assassination event. She dropped her card, figure and meat, but no panties.
How give? Will she at least respawn? Did I lose the opportunity to get her used panties?
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>>18835680
Welcome to Elona, enjoy your stay.
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>>18835691
You don't get the panties from Shena.
All named npcs respawn unless they die as part of the story.
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>>18835691
Shena's panties are in very high demand. She can barely wear panties until they get snatched away by a yet another perverted noble for just a spare change in return.
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>>18835691
Noblemen carry only the finest of pantsu.
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>>18835698
Oh I see. I thought they were unique to her and random nobles. Guess I was mistaken.
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>>18835685
>>18835692
Fucking hell I just need the money to be comfy and raise my animals already
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>>18835717
Just imagine how bored your little girl will be if you focus on ranching. She'll get pregnant like a clock when she's got nothing better to do,
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>>18835688
Those should be easy to kill ATV-san, alkonosts and death manekis are frail as hell. Zero shoot their ass
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>>18835727
Fuck that, she's going to train like a motherfucker once I figure out how and whether I want to make her a witch or valkyrie
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HOLD THE FUCK UP MY DRAGON CHILD WAS ALSO PREGNANT

Thank fuck I was paranoid and bought an extra bottle of acid
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>>18835741
Stop letting them drink from random water sources!
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>>18835748
How do I stop it?
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>>18835731
No, at least one was a <boss>, and they were around level 200 vs my lv50 pets. Winning this was no different from winning jackpot on a lottery.
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>>18835741
Jesus anon take it easy on your pets... They are still too young...
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>>18835750
Whip them properly. tamer's whip
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>>18835750
this \/
>>18835759
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Local man cannot contain his dick.
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>>18835751
I guess you walked into the wrong neighborhood. Consider getting a defender and giving it an android sprite or something to fit in
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>>18835759
>>18835763
hang on, do pets need to be fed?
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>>18835782
nope
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>>18835782
No, explanation was something along the lines of ''they are tied to the PC's life force''
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>>18835782
No, but they get more stat experience from food when compared to the player.
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>>18835772
Yeah but I'll need 4th tag team for this. Party will be a little too big and hard to manage, but I'm seriously considering this now.
job board was too far, after all. would have died if gladiator arena was on cd
>>18835782
While they wont die from starvation they still get great benefits from the food (training attributes like STR/DEX/CON), much greater than you get for PC for eating food.
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>>18835819
I got 4 tag teams too, it ain't that hard but you have to keep an eye out nobody gets too far ahead of the others. Some grinding in the void after command flag=>defensive=>directive=>weakest pets to offensive may be required. Everyone needs barrier, 800SPD and living weapons, so kill two flies with one stone by leveling lweapons and getting AP in the void. That's the biggest task for a pet master besides getting the ole herb farm going. I hired an informer at home for checking up on them every return home. Also change up the duos depending on strength for better party balance
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How much cargo can I carry at once?
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>>18835893
Informer is not a problem since my humble abode is right next to Por Kapul, and I usually rely on pet arena to get weaker pets in-line with the others before void diving.
Honestly rather than leveling gear is more of an issue, since i'm looking for very specific weapon(lightning shuriken, so far only got 1) and need staves with throwing stone bonus, preferrably living ones(man can dream)
>>18835907
<<<character screen
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>get ambushed by rogue boss
>kill him, take the cargo
>get ambushed by another rogue boss because I have more cargo
>kill him, take the cargo
I'm actually making money from nothing.
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>>18835679

Da fuck? All that did was I provided Utima with some refreshments.
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>>18835997
A pity.
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Talk about android sprites, anyone seen anything remotely close to Alita in any of her reincarnations?
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>>18836033
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Elin when
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>>18836099
Sometime soon in parralel world where artist didnt die.
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>>18836071
>You meditate and feel inner peace
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How do I preach? I have enough faith (if wiki is to be believed), but I suppose I need an ally of the same faith? Is there any way to convert my pets to my faith?
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>>18836071
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>>18836145
You need preach (W)ide area speacial action, you learn it after getting enough faith and leveling up.
You can convert everyone around, including pets. Allies have no requirement and you dont need any to preach, however they'll get their faith stat trained and get some bonus WIL exp.
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>>18836180
Oh fuck, I forgot about W. Thanks!
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I've been playing Elona off and on for a year now and some things still make me laugh. I raised a chicken to Soul Mate to see if the evolved form managed to have even more ridiculous breeding, but it was identical. At least my wife looks like the day she was born now
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>>18836346
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>>18836355
>>18836346

pedo!
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>>18836346
>>18836355
I'm going to jerk off to your hen wife and you can't stop me
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>>18836388
You're gonna choke your chicken to a hen? Eggcellent.
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Do rods of dominate even fucking exist?
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>>18836583
Yes? Its easier to get spell, though.
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>>18836583
yeah, for medals
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>>18836647
I've got a plenty of those rods from magic farms.
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What does this mean? There's nothing in log that has to do with his, this message just appears from time to time.
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>>18836871
She has equipment with 'it disturbs growth' on it which means she's losing xp periodically
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Sadly the ultimate chick only births adult chickens. Honestly I'm a bit disappointed
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If you use a secret experience of Lomias the intro is supposed to play out differently. Does anybody know how exactly? I assume your descendant ends up being the beggar being killed by Lomias or something equally unfortunate
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>>18837370
Nah it just basically confirms that Lomias is kind of a dick and murders the dude, from what I've read.
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>>18837370
You get a bit of extra background about the beggar and the tutorial putits, plus a precious amulet that can be found in the cave and some minor changes in another scene at the end of Act 2.
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>just realized that all the gods except for Mani and Itzpalt have angel wings
What is the lore implication of this?
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>>18837473
Mani has jetboots or a jetpack. Itzpalt is only a god if I recall correctly because he tricked another into ascending him cause hes a bitch who couldn't do it himself, like our cjharacters.
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>>18837404
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A couple quick questions.
What are the best guns to use, are they all ok or are some better than others.
Should I give my fire dragon child hands or will that screw it over? Should it use martial arts or some sort of weapon for the stats on it?
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How did you fucks go through a whole thread in one (1) day
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>>18837637
The power of video games. But honestly last thread got a bit busy.

Also I can't wait to have really high weight lifting. I want to use these stolen trees and throw them at my enemy.
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>>18837619
Check this
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Ranged_Weapons

Basically pistol is not very good (slightly improved due to magnum), shotgun useless at any range except point blank w/ zero shot, machine gun is OK, sniper rifle is equivalent of ''big club that is inaccurate but hits hard'', laser gun has best modifiers. You can go either way with the dragon. If you go MA, at high martial arts levels its hands need to be empty to gain the passive and that's why you might choose to forego hands entirely if MA's your plan. But at lower levels it gets more benefit from claws/tonfa anyway. Just stick em on if you'd like
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>>18837708
All right, thanks! So then I might give him hands for claws and tonfas for the stat bonuses. Are the bonuses later on not worth as much as having empty hands? Like does the damage drop off that hard compared to naked fists?
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Apparently using equipment update to e.g. change an arrow into a bolt does NOT actually allow it to be used by a crossbow instead of a bow. So for all practical purposes it's still the same ammo type after being changed (in this case still an arrow) except with different dice.
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>>18837753
that sucks
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>>18837753
I wonder how it works with turning shit into stone, does <enhances throwing> equipment still wor?
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>>18837761
It sure does I tell ye whot, it took me quite a while to figure out why my pets were simply not firing their weapons.
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>>18837770
Well, glad you figured it out before I took even longer to. Thanks mate.
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>>18837769
If we consider it seems to retain the ''type'' of the original, it might be the case a throwing wep that was originally a rock but changed into a panty/shuriken might retain the rock throwing boost. But we'd have to test it to make sure
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>>18837753
What version are you on? I recall seeing that being corrected in a version's bugfixes.
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>>18837785
1.75
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>>18837548
Itzpalt seems to be one of the earlier gods, at least his dialogue implies so.
Mani couldn't do it himself and used lulwy.

I presume Itzpalt just magically floats
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>>18837794
That would be why.
1.76 has this:
>Fixed the equip update item fusion recipe not changing the ranged weapon that arrows and bolts will work with. Ammo that have already been used in the recipe will have their weapon type corrected the next time they are used for a ranged attack.
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Is it possible to split stacks of items?
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>>18837473
Itzpalt supposedly can sprout wings made of fire but there is artwork of him with wings. Mani is replacing his organic matter and becoming an android of sorts. He can fly through the power of technology. Mani and Itzpalt certainly are strange gods. Mani was a mortal that became a god through Lulwy. The current Itzpalt, number 2, was an elder god demoted into his current position. Possibly due to the emergency of what happened during a great war where a bunch of gods died, portfolios shuffled around, and seats needing to be filled. Some of Itzpalt's dialog talks about this ongoing god war and how mortals will never understand their sorrow.
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>>18837782
I'm more interested in shuris turned into stones. I guess i can only test it myself.
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>>18837809
Noice, you're right. How stable is 1.76 and is the infinite loop thing a frequent issue or a rarity?
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>>18837820
Wasn't there an issue with pet portraits disappearing entirely because of the new evochat slots?
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>>18837815
Can i have the right one for several minor expirements?
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I just want a mother daughter wife.
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>>18837820
I don't use 1.76 for that reason, actually. I don't want to fuck with that.
I just get ammo from crafting directly instead of transforming for the time being.
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>>18837829
Well I'm not the artist. Just found this pic on pixiv so I wouldn't be the one to ask but I personally don't care what you do with the pic.
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>>18837745
Multihit MA passive ability requires hands to be empty, so once skill is high enough to reliably activate it, putting stuff in there basically robs you of multiple attacks per turn
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>>18837830
Give your mom an age return lunch from the abyssal castle to make her revert to a child, then raise her as your daughter and marry her. Or you could roleplay this somehow already happened and the little girl from Vernis is her.
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>>18837885
You're a man of good taste
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>>18837801
Ah right I got them mixed. Then I dunno itzpalt probably just says fuck you and floats anyways like you said cause hes an old guy who doesn't get why all these new god need their fancy newfangled wings. I cant think of anything for Mani right now.
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>>18837885
All you actually need to do to satisfy the requirement is to marry Pael and Lily.
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>>18837812
Drop half, bless other half, pick one half back up. I think there was another method but I forgot
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>Farming ents for gene engineering
>Find an egg and go do stuff
>Notice I'm overweight and wonder what the hell I picked up to cause that
>The egg weigh 38.8 stones
What the hell? Why does this weigh so much.
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>>18838044
ents are fucking big
I miss when I could set up an ent farm for ez pz resists from their eggs
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>>18837815
Where do you see this? Is it from talking to them directly or perhaps from act 3 related dialogue?
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Fought two on one floor, the very next floor had another two. I have some more Sunrise's on a discard ranch, too. So many dragons.
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>>18835543
>Its probably better to not add feet/hand slots
Why shouldn't I?
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Does anyone know about the rewards from Arasiel's quest? Wiki doesn't have it listed.
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>>18838274
punch kick block
its all in your mind
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>>18838139
The god war dialog and the you mortals will never understand? The gods mumble to themselves and you can hear them if you have an item with it catches signals from god. Wiki also lists the stuff they say.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Itzpalt_of_Element
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>>18836046
Checked the uploader, no
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>>18836166
Nice
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>>18838139
Sinaha does make mention of there being two Itzpalts in Act 3. Also makes mention of how things used to be a whole lot more chaotic in the past with the gods.
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So uhh... I've moved all the gods to my house and someone got drunk and picked a fight and now I can't move much in my house without getting whacked. I made a save as soon as I saw a chain of critical hits, but I'm not sure I can avoid this happening
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>>18838449
I hope you're prepared for mewmewmew.
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I moved all the non-ascended gods towards the mean aggressive ones and uhh... I think one of the bad guys died.
Yeah, I reverted the save, but what a mess that was. RIP Yacatect
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Guys should I evolve my pets right away? or is it best to let them level up first?
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>>18838580
EVOLVE IMMEDIATELY
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>>18838580
No reason not to do so immediately unless you're saving those very common hearts for no reason.
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Are items with "It disturbs your growth" good for anything. I'm asking before I put it up for sale.
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>>18838317
>>18838395
Thank you.
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>>18838584
Thanks!
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>>18838605
For mutants as far as I know
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>>18838649
you're welcome backbreaker
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Is thicc goose anon here? How's that sprite coming along?
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>>18839215
No, its Loli Goose now.
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>>18839222
Why not have the best of both worlds and make a Thick Loli Goose?
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>>18839225
You might just be the cleverest girl of them all
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>>18839225
I think the small sprite box would just make them look like a normal thicc goose-person anyway.
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How do I stop my whore little girl from drinking from the well?
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>>18839255
Tamer's Whip
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>>18839267
>Wizard Mode only

Or is the wiki outdated?
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>>18839271
You can find them in Elona+
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>>18839225
I approve of this
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>>18839273
Thanks anon
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New thread when??
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>>18839286
Are you retarded or just stupid?
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>>18839297
Aren't we reaching max posts, friend? It seems auto-bump is no longer working.
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>>18839306
So what? It's going to be a long time before the thread actually dies.
Welcome to boards that aren't /v/.
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>>18839319
We've filled a thread up in a single day. The thread is already on page 9. Its happening, jefe.
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Don't do it man! It won't look cool, it's not a weapon!
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Please no anything but this!
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>>18839392
Hope you have a metric ton of poisons and a lot of spells to try and hit it with.
Also does it have it's vanish trick still cause if so fucking rip your loot.
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>>18839416
Bells don't vanish in the arena so I doubt boss bells would vanish either.
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>>18839424
Yeah but isn't the arena kind like hard coded so that nothing can teleport out of it?
It's times like this I wish I knew programming so I could go in and figure out how this shit works.
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>>18839445
The gold bell does not have vanish. It's just been having a high speed battle with my Platinum bell that has shurikens.
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>>18839468
those sprites with the ground texture clash so horribly
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>>18839392
Maybe gain its trust with gifts and whatnot, then give it an engagement ring that prevents teleportation?

Would that work to prevent it from disappearing?
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>>18839468
>High speed bell battles.
So basically an anime fight with the outsiders perspective of not being able to see anything except brief clashes and random damage to the area happening.
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>save up 100k
O-only 70k more to my shop

Also how do I hire a shopkeeper when I'm at pet limit?
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>>18839546
get more charisma
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>>18839546
You don't hire one, just just leave a pet as a shopkeeper.
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>>18839546
Pick up tailoring and go dungeon diving for materials. Tailoring will net you buckloads of cash for next to no effort. Deco dresses sell well and once you get to the actual dress items they sell for at least 2k each.
Otherwise go do some Cargo runs.
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I got a pet bell and gave it a gun with some ammo, but it isn't using them. How do I make it shoot shit?
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Is there any way to know what's valuable on a screen full of items without running over each of them and checking the log? I have the highlights set up to mark everything once it's in an inventory but that doesn't help with stuff on the ground.
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>>18839594
Oh, okay, nevermind. Apparently magnums only work with pistols.
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>>18837964
He hates anything organic and wishes everything is mechanical, that's why he uses some sort of levitating apparatus
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>>18839550
How?

>>18839553
I don't feel safe without my warrior little girl and I doubt my dragonchild can run a shop
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>>18839767
Go see if you can't buy a BLESSED potion of restore body from a magic shop. It will boost your charisma + some other stats until you die.
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Has anyone made a Kokoro PCC yet?
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>>18839546
leave a pet at the dojo
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>>18837637

Through drunken shitposting and samefagging.
Looks like I even raped Estork yesterday.

>>18839468
>>18839517

Should've waited until you own the latter two bells and some quickling. Fighting gods will usually produce about 15 pages of damage reports. Coupled with continuous attacks, charge, and shadow step, then you'll have some Dragonball Z shit.
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>>18839843
Saw this in one of the mods from pastebin.
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>>18840041
You saved me, thanks
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>>18839767
drink gem potion and wear 2 engagement rings. free 40 CHA. You only need to pass cha check when buying new pet/opening monster ball, after that low CHA wont be an issue.
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Is there anything in the game settings and tweak menus that you guys would recommend messing with? I haven't really tried messing with anything cause I don't really know what some stuff does.
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>>18840149
tune wait times for everything to your liking, especially effect one in detailed setting - setting it to 0 will disable all effects and will lead to much faster battles.
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>>18840152
Is there a setting so when I go into targeting it show letters that will allow me to jump to the enemy in question? I swear I remember it from a screenshot.
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>>18840168
Press l. Lower-case L.
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>>18840172
I feel dumb. Yet at the same time why isn't that a thing with *. You think that with targeting it would also show it there as well.
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>>18840168
>>18840175
It is with *, after pressing * you can cycle through targets by pressing + and -. I personally never use the (l)ook command for this reason
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>>18840191
Huh the more you know. Thanks man.
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I love doing this. Also fuck bats.
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>>18839286
>>18839324
The new thread is posted by the collage-making anon (for as long as this steady stream of OC lasts) when the thread is close to the end of page 10. Often after hitting bump limit the thread will stay alive for a day or two. It would be inappropriate to make a new thread when the old one has so long to live and would shit up the board with abandoned threads. This is a slow board.
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>>18839215
I'm working on some positively medieval shit right now, as soon as I'm done with that I'll post updated download link with many goose variations
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Alright, I finally have a shop deed. Where's a good place to place it, and what should I buy next? I've been hoarding seeds so far
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>>18840674

Next to your house so you can just return and dump shit there after you are done raiding dungeons.
Next to your farm and ranch for easy dumping. Really, this just needs a small bit of critical thinking on your part. Where DO you need to unload stuff you wanna sell?
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>>18840691
I don't have a house aside the starting cave, I'm going to want to put all my buildings with my eventual house, of course.
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Get a small home and place it somewhere you want then build your city around that home. You can upgrade to a castle after a few weeks. Here's my spot in the middle of nowhere. This grant me somewhat equidistant travel to any town.

Alternatively, if you are a fan of powerfarming, you could place your farms around Lesimas and place your home somewhere in the snow. Going through the snow has a high chance of incurring the snowfall weather which converts to rain in non-snow areas. You can put two and two together yourself, I think.
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>>18840695
>>18840691
So the question really is where's a good place to set up a base in general

>>18840726
Is farming really that good?
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>>18840674
Lil' sister's mansion. Weather does not matter for shop, you can always return there.
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>>18840744
Never been there, after getting fucked in the Yeek nest I've just ferried cargo around the port, Vernis, Derphy, Palmia and Yowyn
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>>18840736

>questioning the act of farming

Everybody here who has swallowed a phallic pillar of salt down their throat as their autism grew fucktouples in size will tell you to put on your best weatherworn boots and start fucking the ground with seeds.

It brings you massive profit every harvesting season, it trains all kinds of attributes and skills as you farm, and most of all, you can quickly train attribute by putting herbs into your food and munching them down. You can only reliably get herbs through farming.
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>>18840726
Those sprites look pretty good. Is that beautify?
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>>18840846

Yes. A bit outdated. Most old monsters has titties.
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>>18840870
I've been meaning to getting around trying to update it, but I honestly don't even know where to really start. I know you need to add in the new sprites and whatnot but I don't know how much finagling thats gonna take.
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>thought I could just dump everything in the shop floor and watch it slowly get converetd to cash by the rogue warrior I bought
>can barely drop anything before it stops me
Alright how do I effectively use a shop?
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>>18840910
Open both in paint, compare them, ctrl+c sprites from one to the other. You do need to stay within the boxes, that is 48x48 for small sprites and 48x96 for big ones. Otherwise pixels spill over into other creatures.

>>18840921
Use the cash register to pay money in order to expand the shop item limit.
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>>18840921
Try interacting with the shop sign, then extend it.
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>>18840921
What these guys said. >>18840930 >>18840937
Also as a tip until your shopkeep is a bit higher leveled try changing your shops type to blacksmith if your just dumping down gear. After your shopkeep is a good general level you can swap it back to goods shop and just dump what ever you don't want.
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>>18840965
This, the difference in sales per day between a general store and blacksmith is enormous. Like from a few items at a time to dozens.
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>>18840921
>>18840965
Also on that note I do want to say I honestly don't know how long it will take as I got a decent shopkeep pet to start off with.
I just went down to derphy zapped away the guard and went into the thiefs guild. Then I just dominated one, flipped off the guildmaster, and went back home with my shiny new thief guild member.
But honestly just keep feeding your shopkeep bronze coins and keeping his potentials at superb and you'll get him up fast in no time.
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>>18841023
How the fuck do I do that? My rogue warrior can barely shill
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>>18841029
The bronze coins? You can do that at the desk. Otherwise what do you mean?
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>>18841029
As in, kidnap somone from the Thieves Guild. I;m only level 10 though
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>>18841044

Double the stats. Get stronk.
You can do it in your other playthrough. Just struggle this one.
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>>18841044
For one you'll need to be level 13 as they are 26. You will also need to do the Mia's dream quest to get the monster heart. And that requires you to get a silver cat for her which requires you capturing/dominating one and bringing it too her.
The monster heart makes it easier to dominate things with a rod of domination and also allows you to dominate stuff thats higher level than you up to twice your level.
And getting that member requires that the domination not fail, you to not fail using the rod, and honestly just being lucky. I honestly blew all my charges like an idiot but small medals thankfully later are not too hard to get, live and learn I guess.
I would actually recommend you just sticking with that dude for right now.
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>>18841068
>>18841081
So I guess I should just forcefeed this guy all my bronze?
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>>18841090
No don't force feed. Check the log whenever you use the desk it'll tell you your shopkeeps current potentials for negotiation and charisma. If you don't have many coins and it dips down below great I'd like to say give him a coin and it'll bring him right up to superb. Otherwise just try to keep him on superb at all times.
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>>18841101
How about my own stats? Are there any skills extremely important? I've put almost all my level up skill points into marksman and firearms, how to spend more points and my platinum?
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>>18841116
Honestly save your skill points unless it's on an important or hard to level skill like like gardening, performing, and pickpocketing. Or if you have a couple of levels away from a skill level mark you want to hit.
Don't use too many platinum coins now you mainly want to just gather as many of the skills you don't have as possible and all training a skill does is raise it's potential by 100% up to a max of 400% to make leveling it easier.
Will be typing more about skills in a sec.
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>>18841135
So your attributes like strength, charisma, etc are raised by you skills so thats why you want as many of the skills as you can get as early as you can. However many of these skills, the good ones, are locked away in the guilds skill trainers.
To steal skills you have to have a rod of teleportation, a bunch of scrolls of teleportation and or the dimensional move action, a disguise kit or scroll of disguise, and some patience.
What you will do is teleport away the guild guard standing on the stairs and then go down. Here you will immediately use the disguise kit as to not have the entire guild, including the trainers coming to ruin your day. Once you use the disguise kit all of them will be neutral except the guild master who will proceed to smash through the wall to come fuck your shit up. And you WILL hear them coming.
The thief and fighters guild are the easier to steal skills from as the guild masters tend to go for melee more often than not and this allows you to use a rod of teleportation on them to zap them away.
The thieves guild master can throw shuriken so theres that to watch out for but will only do that when he's really far away. The Fighter's guild master uses a spear so he can hit you from 2 steps away. But like I said they will more often then not try to be in melee range.
They can and will decimate you so don't even try fighting them.
The mage guild is basically the only one you HAVE to join to get the skills from because of the guild masters magic ignoring your evades and pulping you from ranged and is just honestly impossible for a low level character.
You might die from the attempt as the guild masters are so far ahead of your level its like you verses a putit. So if your going to attempt this, dump your inventory at home or something so you don't drop a bunch of your stuff.
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>>18841195
I was thinking of joining the fighters or mages guild anyway.

Speaking of dimensional move, what are some good feats? that looked pretty cool.
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>>18841213
knockout, drain blood, uncontroll, magical plants, dance, touch of sleep or poison
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>>18841116
>>18841135
>>18841195
Do check the wiki and see what guild trainers have what skills only those trainers have and save your skill vouchers and platinum coins accordingly before you go down.
If I am making this seem hard, it really isn't but I'm just stressing that it's dangerous to do.
As for the skill trainer locations they're layed out like this

The thieves guild starts you in a room on the stair in the far left of the map. There is one room to your direct left down a hallway and thats where that guild trainer is. The guild master starts in the middle of the map and will probably enter the entry room just as you hit the hallway.

The Fighters guild has you start on the stair in the top middle of the map and the trainer is is the room to the south of you. The room is rather big so you should catch sight of the guild master right as you enter is as he starts on the room to your immediate right. One trick I found is to wait a turn or 2 cause if you do that it's very likely the guild trainer will end right in the door. Or at least thats how it happened for me.

Take important note of how many steps the guild masters walk and plan accordingly so you can have them land right in melee range for you to zap them away and make a run for it.
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>>18841213
So far for my guys I have knockout, dimensional move, hypnotize(touch of sleep), 3 levels in ascetic for that extra hp, and apprentice quartermaster for all the bonuses it gives ya.
Though I'm honestly fairly new myself so I would probably say that >>18841224 has some of the more immediately useful stuff I'm just going off what I've read in the pastebins and what I've looked up.
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Does provoke inflict Fury on enemies in Elona+ Custom? the wiki says you get Fury if you get hit by provoke on the Status page, but it says it inflicts mist of frailness in the Special Action page.
Is one of them outdated or does it differ depending if it's targeting the user or if it's being used by the user/user's pet?
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>>18841550

Wiki is outdated. It only inflict fury as far as I know.
And yeah, provoke inflicts fury and lock the enemy to the provoker. I am not sure if they are dealing double damage though. Because rampage inflicts fury on you and your buddies and you deal/receive more damage for the duration.
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>>18841570
Alright, if it doesn't inflict mist of frailness i guess i won't use it. Thanks.
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>>18841606

Doesn't need to.
If wiki's still right on the status effect part, getting fury will make them receive/deal double damage.
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>>18841570
>>18841550
I've checked the source a couple of threads ago. It inflicts fury for something like a dozen of rounds(for got) and locks enemies' target to the one who used provoke, preventing target change for 30 rounds. Fury is always 'deals and takes double damage'.
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>>18841744
>for got
forgot exact duration*
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>>18841635
>>18841744
Yeah, my pet was the one i was going to use it with but she's not really that tanky, don't wanna risk it with the double damage it gives.
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/tfw Karavika won't go out with me. At least she taste good.

>>18841802
Yeah. You might want to give it to someone who can no-sell attacks. Try getting one of those red bells. Set it to provoke and then make it run away from angry enemies. Laugh as you easily pick away enemies who are trying to catch a red, small mean bell.
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Newe >>18841949
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>>18841881
Sorry but i'm still not autistic enough to get bells, maybe in the future though.




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