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This is a Japanese language learning thread designed by and for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, light novels, and Japanese video games.

Read the Guide linked below before asking how to learn Japanese:
http://djtguide.neocities.org/
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does anyone have any podcast recommendations? Topic doesn't really matter since I won't be able to understand it anyway, I just want to listen to it.
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Is being stared at for all eternity a form of punishment in Japan? It just seems weird.
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>>19038758
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0mlVSkH1EKJ
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S-stop oniichan.
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> ヒロキ、今好きな子いる?
> あ
> あたしじゃないよね?
> 違う。
That means he does like her, right?
Just want to make sure I understand how double negation works.
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>>19040574
It's a cliffhanger.
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I can watch anime without subs fine but im so shit at reading.
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>>19040570
your accent is shit but this is creative at least
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>>19040635
I can do neither
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>>19040635
One of my greatest fears is the opposite.
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>>19040635
watching anime is not watching
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I have literally 0 reason to learn Japanese. I can't figure out why I even started. Don't care for any otaku media, don't mind watching anime with subs, don't plan on going to/moving to Japan. I'm retarded.
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>>19040690
If manga isn't reading and anime isn't watching, then what is video games?
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>>19040574
Jesus, this is so dumb.
Well, at least she did better in Kill Bill.
It's funny how being in an American movie suddenly improves the Japs' acting.
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>>19040718
Playing video games isn't playing.
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>>19040720
whys it titled lmao poor girl is dieing : (
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>>19040712
You will fit right in at /int
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>>19040732
そうですよね
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>>19040737
I like it there, it's a way better thread in every possible aspect than this one. But it's slow and often nonexistent as it is at the moment.
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Is anything we do actually something?
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>>19040732
not today it aint dude because games stopped bein games like 20 years ago
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>>19040768
Doing something isn't doing.
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>>19040712
There are people who spend four years in university studying a language spoken by literally ~100 old people somewhere in north-western Russia.
You're not as retarded as you might think.
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I read an entire LN before 3 PM today. What did you losers do?
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>>19040805
LNs aren't reading so you haven't really done anything.
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>>19040805
read like 2 lines of a ln got physically ill and threw it down to a sick nasty beat

and posted a lot
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>>19040805
i took a break for the day because i finished another vn yesterday
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>>19040570
based
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>>19040805
Done anki cards, mined some words.
And for the rest of the day studied for my last exam tomorrow.
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>>19040552
hkbk.fm
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>徴
>微
ふにゃ?
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日文学生笨头笨脑。他们不会学辉煌汉字。
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真没想到我的忍者
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If I just keep watching raw anime will it eventually click or do I need to really focus and try to understand everything?

For reference I have been studying for about 6 months and just watched my first raw anime. I read for 2 hours a day for the last 2 months.
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10000 hours of anime later itll start clickin
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Has anyone here ever come across a person who refused to believe that you can speak Japanese even though they actually speak none at all?

This guy accused me of using Google Translate, and he claimed that IME is like using Google Translate as well even though it's only an input method. He said that writing sentence doesn't mean I know anything.

Why are people so retarded?
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>>19041061
Oh and just to clarify, he thought I was using a Japanese keyboard at first.
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>>19041061
>Has anyone
No. No one in the history of humanity has ever experienced whatever the fuck the rest of your post is about. Only you.
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>>19041061
tell him to stop being pretentious
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>>19041072
I don't understand what is it about Japanese that triggers idiots like that. They think it's the most difficult language on Earth, and that anyone who claims to know it has learned just a few phrases from watching anime or something.
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>>19041061
ahaha IME user EXPOSED.
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>>19041084
Kek
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>>19041082
isn't it technically the most difficult language on earth? for english speakers to learn
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>>19041096
Neither of us spoke English as our native language.
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>>19041103
69時間s a day
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>>19041103
tree fiddy
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>>19041110
I don't need that, it just relieves my stressful life of video games and calisthenics
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>finally able to decipher what the samples in loli ripe's tracks say
Feels good
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>>19041121
but can you decipher https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvJ3YbIyCiE#t=63
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>留学生はアジア人が多く、その他は3割です

Is the その necessary? Could it not just be 他はblabla?
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>>19041121
Read that as loli rape.
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他(た) was a mistake
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>>19041145
そんなの勝手に決めろマイ忍び

>>19041150
youre goin to jigoku dude
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jigoku doesn't exist.
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>>19041181
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あるんだぜ このスレ
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>>19040712
Same except I'm not even learning it. I just so my reps everyday but I don't practice at all. Even when I go to Tokyo it's like I don't know anything at all. My listening comprehension is literally zero. But i still do those reps, boy howdy
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>>19041181
you're right, cause we're all fucking going to rengoku
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>>19041187
クソスレだ。
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>>19041191
I like how this post can be either a deep critique of this thread's mentality or just a fucking retard talking rubbish
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>>19041199
恋国? I wish mate
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>>19041200
ベース
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>>19041199
youre right cause i feel like ~~~g~~~oku

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey2HnqqjQIY
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*starts up a new game of ファイナルファンタジー7 and names cloud goku*
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じごく
じこく
ちこく
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ちこく
ちんこく
ちんこ
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shinitai
shi ni tai
ikitai
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IARguDQIGVs
is DJT better than actual 日本人?
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死に隊
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>>19041257
what's wrong 大将
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>>19041262
People watch these kind of videos?
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>>19041262
No, and I can tell without even wasting my time watching that shit
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i know all kinds of rare kanjis (only if you show them to me first) but i couldnt explain how to tie my 靴ひもs

im the model djter
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>>19040805
I've spent the entire day lazily browsing the internet while occasionally recalling hiragana on the djt site. After 6 days I am still mixing up め and ぬ, and れ,わ, and ね. I've repeatedly gone over the first 6 columns of katakana but I keep forgetting them too.
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>>19041311
if you know any words or anything at all you should stop mixing them up really fast??
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>>19041315
I know no words and I shouldn't be posting here but I insist.
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>>19041322
well 10000 hours of anime will fix that
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>>19041311
Imagine actually writing this post and not feeling ashamed about it.
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>>19041328
I do feel ashamed but I can't help my memory.
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>>19041328
Imagine feeling shame in a thread where people learn an entire language to improve their masturbation experience.

Imagine.
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minna genki?
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>>19041311
You'll stop mixing them up once you start learning words. Hearing the pronunciation of a word and seeing how it's written in hiragana in anki will alleviate such issues in a few weeks.
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>>19041311
See this, everyone? This is the average non-AJATT DJTer. A failure. If this guy was doing the AJATT method after those 6 days he would already be able to read the entirety of 源氏物語 with ease. But no, he decided to fall for the "learning hiragana" meme. God fucking bless you, cause you'll need it. Cunt.
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>>19041345
genkijanai
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>>19041345
atasi gei ki
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>>19041349
Shoot yourself in the noggin unironically.
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>>19041103
>listens to music and plays games for almost 3 hours
hey retard if you put in the work to learn eventually you can play games and listen to music in japanese
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>>19041204
How can it be either one of those things?
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>>19041349
maybe you should get on the ajatt equivalent for posting cause golly gee boy you need it

>>19041354
kimi ni monku wa iimasen

>>19041359
sokka gambarena
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>>19041380
You asked me a FUCKING question and you're gonna tell me you don't need my complaint? That's it, I'm gonna go masturbate
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>>19041390
no oh my god
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>>19041390
You don't know Japanese.
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>>19041390
masturbation is a sin boy
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hes actually jacking off right now pissed as fuck over a simple fuckin gokai
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>>19041401
I'm here
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>>19041419
that was fast dude fuckin okaeri
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>>19041421
Please don't point out my premature ejaculation it's embarassing
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>>19041431
so did you find your genki
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>>19041433
yeah i guess
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>彼女がいない気持ち
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>>19041444
よーし
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>>19041446
俺にはわかんねえな
死ねくそキモオタばーか
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喉に突き刺さるイラマチオやってみたい
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日本語で主に話したほうがいいんだよ
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I can interpret and understand 素晴らしき日々 beyond a surface level and read 装甲悪鬼村正 without a dictionary. I have passed a point where my eyes and brain don't even register sentences with less than 20 表外漢字. In my world 仮名 doesn't exist.
I am getting smarter and smarter every time I open an エロゲー. I am starting to fear my own 大和魂.
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>>19041474
そりゃ相手が死ぬだろう
現実はエロゲじゃねえよ
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>>19041491
I want to explode inside megumin
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>>19041491
did you do AJATT?
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>>19041681
勃起が治まらない
どうしよう
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>>19041681
yea thats my favorite always wishing i was the 女
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>>19041685
That's gay
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I don't understand the point of RTK at all. Even if you have 8 hours of free time a day to study Japanese I don't see the point in touching that book other than the memory techniques, which you can quickly learn about in 2 minutes and be done with.
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>>19041681
>sport with, ridicule, tease
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>>19041695
まあわたしはゲイ

>>19041698
the point of rtk is in the title dude

remembering the kanji

it doesnt mislead you in any way whatsoever
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>>19041707
too bad it doesn't teach you japanese or make it take less time to do so
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>>19041681
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>>19041720
that kanjis gross
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>>19041720
Just like in my erochikku geemu.
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>>19041722
what are you fucking gay?
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>>19040549
From djtguide.neocities feedback:
>Hello, I'm the guy that requested 君の隣で恋してる /djt/. Can I also request Flyable Hearts? It'd be much appreciated. Thanks.
https://mega.nz/#F!zWoF1LgB!V6s3tUUM7E3FS1y6gfpyHw
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>>19041731
まあな
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>>19041720
I wish this meant ridicule
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How do you fly a heart?
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How much anime until I can understand whats going on. I already read everyday.

Is watching raws useful if I can't perfectly understand written work?
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>>19041761
10000 hours
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>>19040549
This honestly spooked me. But I'm not the only one this has happened to, r-right?
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>>19041761
Watch LotGH raw.
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>丁寧モザイク
What is this supposed to be in porn, a special type of mosaic censorship?
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I want to play ななついろドロップス but I can't seem to find a working download for it anywhere. Does anyone have a link?
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>>19041707
共産主義者ですから
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>失敗するところを
What does the ところ and を mean here?
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>>19041860
ところ can refer to a a time.

It is just saying the time りと confessed love was a mistake.
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>>19041860
Post the whole page.
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>>19041905
Honestly this response is so vague and pointless you might as well not have answered his question and waited for someone better than you to take it on
>>19041912
So is this one but less because it's actually productive and has a point
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>>19041916
>Honestly this response is so vague and pointless
It literally explained exactly what was being said.
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>>19041921
he didn't ask for the meaning of the sentence, he asked for an explanation of ところ and を, something you did not give
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>>19041930
>you
If I were talking about myself I would have said "I".

>ところ can refer to a a time.
This literally means that ところ means "time" here.

を never does anything special.
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>>19041912
ごめん
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>>19041935
>I don't know what it means so I'll just ignore it
I feel like you'd do great in the translation industry
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>>19041954
You don't know Japanese.
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>>19041954
it's not doing anything special here though
there's no ignoring being done
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>写生
>射精
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>>19041959
No you 兄さん
>>19041966
As shown here >>19041951 it's clearly connecting a verb, and I honestly reckon connecting verbs is a pretty special thing
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>>19041979
It's not connecting a verb lmao
you don't know japanese
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>>19041981
now in japanese
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>>19041979
Hey buddy
Do you know what a sentence fragment is?
Yes?
Then you know what を is doing there, even if you don't see the verb it's connecting to.

"Connecting to verbs", whatever that means, if it's what を is doing here, is exactly what を does. Always. It never does anything else.

The only thing that can possibly be confusing here is the long distance inversion, which is completely unrelated to the words that the original post asked about, and not special to them at all.

Japanese isn't some esoteric code meant to be interpreted or parsed. It's a fucking language. Being unwilling to present a ten paragraph description of what something is doing doesn't mean you're ignoring it
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>>19041998
Why didn't you say that from the start アミーゴ
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>>19042017
Because I'm not the person who responded initially, and the generic dekinai complaint about an explanation being too simple is not worth writing five long sentences to shut down.
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>>19041998
I've memorized the first 30 kana, what do I do to start learning kanji once I've finished with kana?
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>>19042022
tape a piece of paper to a wall with a kanji on it. Then repeatedly slam your head against it 23 times. Repeat this with all 2136 joyou kanji
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>>19041951
を indicates that 失敗するところ is the object of 見ていた in case you didn't pick that up from the autist squabbling.
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>>19042031
autists*
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>>19042031
Oh, that makes sense.
Thanks oniichan.
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>>19041998
whoa....
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who else here is learning japanese so they can understand gon when he yells at pitou
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High IQ idea here: What if you did RTK and Core2k at the same time?
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Japanese:
>X?
>Yes.

English dub:
>Is it X?
>No.

i never knew it was this bad ;_;
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>>19042137
You mean the translations?
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>>19042142
yeah... literally the opposite of the original sometimes
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>>19042120
Here's an even higher IQ idea: What if you watched anime?
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>>19042151
Post the Japanese and English.
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>>19042154
It's harder to look up the words you don't know. Too early.
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>>19042160
Use English subs
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>>19042158
Here is the time stamped link to the scene: https://youtu.be/ZwZSLse6rv4?t=229

pic related is the original (same in japanese anime too)
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>>19042290
That's pretty bad

That's because dubs just rewrite inconsequential stuff though, not because the translator didn't understand it
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>>19042290
over the time I've learnt that "translators" will rewrite shit just for the hell of it whenever they can, probably to piss off nerds
translating shit must be boring as fuck so I can't blame them really
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>>19042310
>>19042316
Theres a timing mismatch between the rate of information, how fast someone can speak, and the language the scene is timed for. Rewrites are common, otherwise you piss the VA off.
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Is there a game that teaches Kanji?
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>>19042344
Uh in this case it's just turning a "no" to a "yeah" vice versa.
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>>19042344
I'm not talking about just anime, but otherwise what you just said is true. I don't know how it applies to the flying witch example though, it's only a difference between "yes" and "no"
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a lot of them

practically all video games from 16bit era on
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your favorite modern porn game
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>>19042356
Ah, i didn't want to watch the video so I made up some bullshit for this reply. English dubs are ear rape
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>>19042380
You're not wrong about that. It's like they go out of their way to miscast the characters as hard as possible.
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youre miscasting them by dubbing them in the first place

all dubbed anime should just be like ghost stories or not dubbed at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxJ4VWoeOzs
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>>19042385
The entire English anime dubbing industry is housed in a communal motel somewhere in Nebraska. There aren't many choices for who voices who.
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>>19042433
I'd believe that if I didn't know it was a communal motel somewhere in texas.
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the funimation motel
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why not just hire random homeless people
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don't sleep on hobos yo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rPFvLUWkzs
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and then he got caught doing drugs again
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Sometimes Rikaichamp doesn't work. Anyone know why?
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absorb comprehensible input
learn nihongo
there are no other rules, only distractions
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>>19040570
this is absolute fucking pinnacle nihongo, thanks
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>>19042577
>japanese
>comprehensible
nice joke m8
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>>19042577
I'm scared anon. When it's short little baby-easy 10 word sentences I can understand them but in LNs you get entire paragraphs that are all one sentence. What's a nerd to do?
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>>19042641
use rikai like god intended
you aren't being a pleb and using meatspace books right?
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Best Japanese language exchange service?
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>>19042650
tindr
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>>19042654
>>19042659
疑い
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>>19042665
ナンパは一番勉強方
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もう一つの方法としてはくさいちんぽをしゃぶることです
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>>19042647
I'm using rikai but at that point it feels like I'm just guessing the meaning by seeing what the words mean and feeling it out by context.
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Just get a pocket 辞書 like a human being.
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>>19042689
this is what god actually intended
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>>19042702

When I was learning Japanese, I religiously studied from the White Rabbit flashcard set and used my 電子辞書 like a madcunt. Just make sure you don't skimp on it. Get a proper one with functionality like being able to write the kanji w/ a stylus.
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>>19042707
Nowadays you just download the free google translate app to your phone and draw the kanji directly into it with your touch screen, anon.
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>stroke order
Literally who on earth gives a fuck.

>>19042577
Go to bed Steve.
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i dont but like stroke order is a thing that lets you know how they wrote the thing so if you ever read anything handwritten (you can say you wont but itll find its way to you eventually) itll be something thats to your benefit to know

its not even a big deal because once youve been alive for 5 minutes you should be able to write any kanji you see with only one look at it if its like well defined computer type or whatever
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>>19042722

Better practice to actually write it, imho. There's a reason kanji proficiency is down within youth nowadays, and a nice chunk of the blame goes to people typing kanji instead of writing.
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>study religiously for six months
>give up after making no progress and realizing everything I was doing was wrong in some way
>months later find my way back to djt by coincidence and get the motivation to try again
>rinse and repeat
I should just give up permanently but I really want to learn Japanese. Maybe I should just get a tutor.
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>>19042758
There is literally no reason to ever write with pen and paper when texting, email, voice to text, digital notetaking, and phone calls exist.
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>>19042762
just read
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>>19042765

Because it's easier to remember and distinguish them, especially early in education. That is literally A reason ... and a good one at that.
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>>19042762
What are you doing wrong? Just do this:
>>19042768
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>>19042762
If you never tried reading anything, that's probably why you never felt like you made any progress. Try reading, even if it kicks your ass at first.
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>>19042762
You don't need japanese, don't waste your time.
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>>19042770
Go to bed Heisig.
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>>19042762
You can't learn 日本語。
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>>19042770
In my experience it mostl likely happens because you concentrate more on an individual kanji instead of just a cursory look. And of course it's not enough to write down a kanji a few times, you need to do it regularly even for
the said effect. I still can't remember differences of lower parts in kanjis 膺, 應 and even though I write them periodically.
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>>19042794
>膺, 應 and 贋
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>>19042781
For anyone else who couldn't understand.
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I'm paying for four years of japanese classes with american tax payer money. AMA.
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>>19042776
>>19042773
>>19042768
Reading always feels weird. I'm getting the broad strokes of what I'm looking at, but I feel like I'm not getting the specifics. Like everything comes through via context clues, but I couldn't tell you what one of the many obscure pieces of grammar I run into actually means or does.
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give up you're not gonna make it
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とにかく漢字が嫌い。大嫌い。いなくなればいいのに。
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くたばれ
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>>19041311
You're mixing them up because you see them as meaningless doodles.
Open Tae Kim's guide and read the example sentences. You'll memorize hiragana in no time.
Katakana won't be as easy though, it's not used nearly as often in textbooks. In anime and manga, on the other hand, it's all over the place, so you're bound to learn it some day.
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漢字は可愛いですよ!嫌わないで下さい~
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>could barely read 200 lines an hour of my first vn one month ago
>now reading 500-600
is this what making it feels like?
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>>19042952
Depends, are you actually understanding better or are you just clicking through and worrying less about fully "getting it"
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>>19042952
are 3 of those 400 uguu oniichan?
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>>19042951
全然可愛くねえよ。頭おかしいんじゃないの?
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>>19042958
I think I get things a lot more than I did at the start, but there are still some sentences I don't understand. I usually stop and try to figure it out or click ahead and try to read back with context, and then most times it becomes clear, but those moments are a lot more infrequent. I haven't come across a point where I've felt completely lost to the meaning for a while now. I find it easier also to keep an entire sentence in short term memory where before it was just impossible.

>>19042964
pretty much
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>>19042972
こち別のあのん
漢字は可愛いさがあるだろう
例えば「像」
像は蚊みたいな漢字だろう

>>19042996
だとすれば頑張りましょう
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>>19042858
Same here. Is this normal in the beginning? Will things eventually start making more sense when I just read more?
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have more self confidence
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>>19043000
Yeah. And the more you read the faster you'll notice the difference.
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>>19042952
>could barely read 200 lines an hour of my first vn one month ago
>now reading 500-600
Pretty good, still takes me 1h40 mins ish for 500 lines, after 1.5 years of reading everyday
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>>19043024
what the fuck
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>>19043017
Is that just reading, or in conjunction with flashcards? Because the just reading crowd fucking baffles me. How can those guys possibly be learning more than the most common kanji?
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>>19043043
Kind of like how the millions of natives do it, I guess
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>>19043048
It's different when you're a native speaker though. It's a lot harder to learn a language after a certain age.
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>>19043000
I'm getting kind of tired of dumb EOPs asking this question over and over again.

No, you're never going to make any progress. You see, there are two kinds of people. Those who are born fluently speaking every fucking language in the world and (You). You were born a 出来ない, just give up. You know you want to.
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>>19043043
I read and do flashcards. I initially hated flashcards, but the more words I learn, the easier it becomes to remember new ones. Steve Kaufman mentioned that in a video from a thread or two ago.
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Wait a second, since when is DJT on /jp/?

I thought it had been banished from /a/ to /int/.
Have rarely been to /jp/, since it's not Japan/General anymore.
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>>19043056
naruhodo
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>>19042998
it should be
漢字には

蚊も大嫌いだぜ
Its more of a frustration for my case though, as my vocabulary is far better compared to my kanji recognition skills. Whenever I'm reading VN, I can understand 100% all the voiced lines, but when not voiced it can be a struggle to get through. I could probably benefit a lot from reading LN instead but I just don't have time these days.
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>>19043084
The irony is so thick you could cut it with a knife.
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>>19043110
you'd need a saw for that one
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>>19043084
Look, I know /jp/ was originally created to get Touhou out of /a/, but limiting the scope to "Otaku Culture" made it less interesting.
How the fuck is DJT Otaku Culture? It's not.
This thread is clearly breaking the rules on /jp/ like it did on /a/.

"Modern" /jp/ is for U18 "idols" and stuff that would usually belong to /a/, /mu/, /int/, /v/ and /vg/.
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>>19043109
Learning moon is a huge time investment. Challenge yourself and learn those fuckers.
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>>19042913
>いなく
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>>19043116
>learning weebanese isn't otaku
Are you retarded?
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>>19043130
I'm not an otaku yet here I am.
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>>19043131
>learning nip
>not an otaku
pick one
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>>19043120
I've learned them for 4 years, and about double that if counting self-teaching. I'm already at a level where I can consume most japanese media without a problem; its just some kanjis here and there that I still can't read that's annoying me.
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>>19043124
?
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>>19043116
>How the fuck is DJT Otaku Culture? It's not.
>This thread is clearly breaking the rules on /jp/ like it did on /a/.
/int/ is staying dead manfriend, no matter how much you cry
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>>19043146
Never mind, I can never tell when いる or 要る is being used.
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This thread is dedicated to learning Japanese for the consumption of otaku media.
Why would it break /jp/ rules?
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>>19043152
I don't really care about /int/, although the 日本語 thread over there is excellent and fast.
DJT should have stayed on /a/. Much like sadpanda.

I bet there were sponsorship payments to make buyfag stay.
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>>19043116
>This thread is clearly breaking the rules on /jp/ like it did on /a/.
It is, as was argued by basically everyone in /jp/ when the mods moved the thread from /a/, but then the mods decided to enforce this by banning everyone who complained.

So now it's classified as a "niche Japanese topic" and everyone got used to it.
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>>19043116
>Boards overlap
Good job figuring that out, anon
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>>19043162
There is no other good place for buyfag though
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Stroke order matters only when masturbating.
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>>19043174
/jp/ was literally created to house figure threads.
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>>19043231
No, the original raison d'être for /jp/ is literally Touhou, because /a/ was flooded with it.
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>>19043231
No it was for which 2hu would you fug threads
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>>19043254
VNs, figures, and Touhou are the three subjects specifically mentioned in >>1.
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>>19043231
/jp/ doesn't buy scales, they'd rather buy onaholes or something
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>>19043293
Who wouldn't?
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>>19041732
Thank You! かたじけない。
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>>19043298
天皇
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>>19041732
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>>19043282
>/b/
>love weeaboo shit

Do they? I have been there like once or twice in 2005/06, and it was a cesspool of shit not worth my time.
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>>19043332
i believe he is being sarcastic
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>>19043031
Yeah I'm slow. I re-read almost every line still, as I don't trust what I just read
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>>19043377
>>19043326

Left these two and Tsujidou unfinished.

Lost my save files years ago after my laptop's hard disk decided to die.
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Hi.

Let's say I wanted to make a living as an English novelist and hopefully go down in history as a great writer.

Is studying Japanese a bad choice of hobby? Is the only way to gain any Japanese skill to do "all Japanese all the time" and dedicate my life to the language as Khazumoto says? Or is it possible to put a small amount of time into Japanese and achieve enjoyment, without it adversely affecting my skills at writing in English?

I guess what I'm asking is, both writing a great novel and learning Japanese are herculean tasks. Is it bad to try and take on two herculean tasks at the same time?
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>>19043506
Learning Japanese is possible, becoming a successful novelist probably isn't.
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>>19043506
You must be so bored. Stop reddit posting.
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Was that really necessary?
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Is learning vocab with shared kanji ie 便所 & 近所 easier in isolation? Say if you did those 2 words on the same day or if you did them on separate days when they are mixed in with other kanji?
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>>19043559
yeah
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’はよう
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dekinais everywhere kej
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Are /u/ and /y/ allophones in Japanese or is there something that determines the pronunciation?
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How do I reset progress on an Anki deck. Took a looong break on a particular deck and I just want to start it from scratch without redownloading everything.
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>>19043993
Delete the deck from anki and import it again
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>>19043999

That'll require the PC version right?
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>>19044010
That's the only one I've used, don't know how mobile/web versions work. I assume if you re-import it to the desktop version, and then sync it to the web it'll reset it there as well?
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>>19043849
>allophone
we're learning to watch porn not to write a thesis
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>>19044010
Throw your phone in the trash.
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>>19043565
seeing them on the same day is way easier
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I understand the second panel but I'm having trouble with the third one.

I think Yotsuba is telling her father that she ''waved at the onee-chan'' and that her father should do it too. Her father replies with ''father can't seoerate his hands (from the wheel) so Yotsuba should wave for him.''

Why is it ''ふってくれ''?
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i dont know man why dont you look it up before typing a big post
i know you can do it
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>>19044269
What's the problem here?
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>>19044306
Nvm. I'm sorry for asking a dumb question. I didn't understand why he used ''ふってくれ'' because I hadn't looked at the essential grammar part from the guide yet.
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>行きは新幹線で行った。

What is the point of this reduncancy in sentences?
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>>19044269
~てくれ is casual wording of ~てください

minor correction:
おねーちゃんが手ぇふった!
->One-chan waved her hand (to me)!
Yotshuba isn't reporting her waving.
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>>19044710
行き=往路(おうろ)forward way
⇔帰り=復路(ふくろ)return way
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>>19044730
Oh, so that's how 往復 happened.
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>>19044758
exactly
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What's the difference between all words for dawn, evening etc like 明け方, 未明? I remember reading it was specific, can someone explain or give a resource?
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yeah google
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>>19044713
Thank you for the help.
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>>19042952
it only gets better
>could barely read 1000 characters in an hour of my first vn 5 months ago
>now i'm hitting about 10k characters an hour
also you should measure progress by character count, not line count, since sometimes VN's like to have lines that are very short, or sometimes have nothing at all like 「。。。」 which you shouldn't be counting.
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Is the core2k deck from the guide available somewhere in text format in the proper word order? Alternatively, is there a way to export it as such?
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>>19045213
>file
>export
>in plain text
I simply do not know how could they make it any simpler.
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>>19045213
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1urrsGvZMUPGIesqG3tE4beGusgU2rAlpoeeEqxuQ8y0
The proper word order is the "Core" index.
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>>19045222
I tried that but it gave me a jumbled mess of text, I need it as a readable list.
>>19045230
Thanks bud
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Anyone here read web novels on narou?
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>>19045248
yeah
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>>19045248
Why would you when theres eroge
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>>19045327
eroge aren't reading.
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>>19045344
yes they are
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>>19045367
>cowtits
Disgusting
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>>19045367
Why does that look like CGI?
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>>19045376
that's just how the art looks
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>>19043051
>It's a lot harder to learn a language after a certain age.
no it's not, people just generally approach it completely differently after a certain age and that fucks them over.
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is there any way to get the html books from the neocities link to work with yomichan? or is there any way to convert text files to html and get those to work with yomichan?
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>>19045464
Because being exposed to it 24/7 as an adult is impossible. Not only geographically, but also in terms of having 2 native speakers devoting a bunch of hours per day interacting with you.
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>>19045470
>is there any way to convert text files to html
>html
>t

No idea
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>>19045474
>Because being exposed to it 24/7 as an adult is impossible.

If you do X, do it in Japanese (reading, gaming, watching videos, etc.)

Rest of the day have headphones on playing Japanese audio
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Remember matt and AJATT not DJT and sucking at nihongo god bless
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>>19044269
Get the reading pack
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>>19045488
Impossible if you're not a NEET.
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>>19045470
The most trivial way would be to enclose the file's current content with html (and body) tags (and append .html to the file name, if you are still using Windows).
No idea, if it "converts" the file the way you need it for yomichan, though. It probably expects some sort of further structuring.
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Remember rattata and tae kim not scams and new age bullshit okay god bless
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>>19045498
If you can't dedicate an hour a day to consume Japanese content meant for native speakers of the language, you can't learn Japanese.

It's not hardcore or NEETlike or anything. It's literally the single thing that you literally must do.
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>>19045519
>an hour of native content is the same as the constant exposure a child receives
Sorry, what?
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>>19045527
Who are you quoting?
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>>19045527
that post doesn't imply that at all
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>>19045534
What I said:
>Because being exposed to it 24/7 as an adult is impossible.

What he said:
>If you do X, do it in Japanese (reading, gaming, watching videos, etc.)

>Rest of the day have headphones on playing Japanese audio

Followed by:
>If you can't dedicate an hour a day to consume Japanese content meant for native speakers of the language, you can't learn Japanese
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>>19045545
Anon, there are multiple people other than you in the conversation you're having. Get a grip.
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You don't even need to dedicate any of your time to get extra immersion in. You know how computer-illiterate people often leave the TV on in the background as they go about their lives? Just do that with online TV streams. I pay for a VPN and run abema in the background for a couple hours a day on a throwaway browser. You can probably get away with running livestreams or something instead, but I like not having to find anything and watching shows I've already seen with english subs.
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>>19045474
It's not impossible at all. You can read and listen to things at any time of day. It's just impractical because you've got other shit to do, and you need a language you can actually use in order to get it done.
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>>19045497
I got that package too. I'm gonna do that later.
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>>19045550
Why even bother posting that at all? We're talking about constant exposure that a native child receives. Doing an hour of listening per day doesn't equate to that in any way nor does it produce similar results.
>>19045560
Sure. As I said, if you're a NEET you can achieve that level of exposure. Most language learners aren't, though.
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>>19045570
I didn't say an hour of listening. I said an hour of input.

You might want to actually read the entire argument you're in. It's not actually about all-day immersion.
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>>19045558
>pay for a VPN and run abema in the background for a couple hours a day on a throwaway browser.
I'm completely mystified.
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>>19045474
How about spending the time you browse this place on a japanese site instead?
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>>19045570
Sure, but you implied the problem was with finding enough input to fill the time. It's not, by a very long way.
If anything I'd say the biggest "advantage" kids have is that they can't give up because it's too much work.
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>>19045579
>I didn't say an hour of listening. I said an hour of input.
Doesn't really change anything in this context.
>It's not actually about all-day immersion.
Enlighten me as to what it's about. Because the difference between how a native speaker learns the language and how an adult would learn it as a secondary is about the degree of immersion.
>>19045590
Fair enough, I was more so referring to other life commitments which kids don't have getting in the way but I can see how it could have been interpreted like that as well.
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>>19045599
No.
>It's a lot harder to learn a language after a certain age.
You're not goalpost-moving your way out of this one.
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>>19045565
The yotsuba reading pack? Because you're supposed to use it while reading.
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>>19045603
That's not my post, this is: >>19045474

Though I do agree with that statement, regardless, but not for the "young minds are better at learning languages inherently" reason.
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>>19045614
Right, this conversation is about whether it's hard to learn after a certain age, not how much input you consume. You're the one that assumed it's about 24/7 immersion.
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Each bit of input you consume each day gives diminishing results. After a few hours, the next few hours are less important, because your brain is still recovering from/learning from what you're taken in for that day. There's not much difference between 16 hours of input a day and 8 hours of input a day.
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>>19045625
The degree of immersion is WHAT makes it harder to learn when you're older, that's the whole point I'm making. A young child is constantly surrounded by native speakers giving them attention, primarily parents but also classmates, teachers etc. Even replacing that input with reading and listening as an adult is very difficult if you have other life commitments. That's the crux of the issue of it being harder for adults in my opinion.
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>>19045646
>A young child is constantly surrounded by native speakers giving them attention
I can guarantee you with 100% certainty that young children under the age of 5 aren't getting constant linguistic attention for more than like four or five hours a day, let alone 14. Yes, five year old kids know an unfathomable amount about their language, but the depth of it is almost entirely in the language's structure/grammar, and it's entirely possible to get a 5 year old's competence in a language after five years of reading/listening for one to three hours a day. There's nothing at all harder about it. You just have unreasonable standards.
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hello i know the difference between または and もしくは and i can read japanese wikipedia articles with a dictionary but still can't tell when to use は or が, i know less japanese than a five year old kid
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>>19045628
Depends on what you're doing. If you're trying to focus on vocab and grammar, then yeah don't overload because there's only so much you can efficiently learn in a day. Practicing is okay though since you're refining rather than expanding.
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>>19045660
it's a "lowercase-cunt attempts to troll" episode
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>>19045665
You have no idea what I'm talking about.
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>>19045666
not trolling just contributing to the discourse
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>>19040549
A quick question for those who have read raw light novels and videogames. My goal this year is to play Danmachi Infinite when it comes out this year. My practice right now has been reading an Isekai series with game mechanics. My question is, how similar is the vocabulary between the 2 mediums? I know vocab is different between genres, but what about a similar genre but different medium? If I want to play Danmachi Infinite without worrying about vocab, is the light novel I'm reading right now fine, or should I fine a raw videogame to practice on before it releases?
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>>19045666
Whatever, Enma
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>>19045678
The chance of you preparing to play it/read its text without any trouble by then is approximately 0%, but you can get very close. Just play games, read things, and use some flashcards for hard-to-remember jargon.
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>>19045660
は is for when you're laughing
が is for when you're expressing disdain
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>>19045685
がはは
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>>19045656
>your parents/teachers talking to you
>being sat in front of a TV
>passively listening to your parents converse among themselves and with other adults
What do you think young kids do the entire day? They're surrounded by adults most of the time, and those adults generally either talk to them or talk to other adults during that time in their presence.
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>>19045692
Kids under 5 are not, in fact, typically under constant supervision in modern societies. They are in ones where crawling isn't common, because mothers basically carry their kids around all day every day until they can walk, but it's clear that it's not necessary.
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>>19045692
Imagine a world without TVs or radios, and where people learned to read as young adults instead of children. But where they still grew up in large western-style homes, not apartments or huts. Because that was a reality for a really long time, and the people who grew up in such societies learned their native language fine.
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Oh, if it's not obvious I'm elaborating on my last post because I posted it too quickly.
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all the little b*ys i know became perapera in eigo by the time they were 5 thanks to pewdy sensei and iphone sama
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>>19045692
I remember reading the other day that the most important part in learning their mouther tongue for children is having a lot of conversations, i.e. not merely listening, but interacting.
So the TV is an exceedingly bad idea. Alexa/Siri also don't work, apparently.
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>>19045764
>mouther

Welp.
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>>19045764
It needs to be conversational language. It's not "having a lot of conversations".

Like, there are tons of kids in Europe, right now, who are learning English through youtube, games, and forums.
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Man fuck this, anki is shit.
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>>19045795
Another one falls to shared decks.
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>>19045799
I've been doing a mining deck for months.
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>>19045805
What kinds of words are you mining?
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>>19045678
lol I've read 40+ novels and 4 VNs and I still need to use a dictionary constantly. Just give up the idea of minimizing dictionary use and read literally anything that's in Japanese.
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>>19045806
Verbs, nouns and adjectives primarily.
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>>19045810
Agreed, I know dozens of thousands of words and even something like saya no uta (the last thing I read) wouldn't be fully comprehensible without a dictionary, albeit it's probably above 85% of VN's in terms of difficulty.
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>>19045613
There is one for vocab and one for sentences. I planned on working through them after reading some of the manga. I'm using the pdf with the word list, though.
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0が過去で、1が未来、イマはどこにもない
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/int/ thread is even deader than usual
guess I have to bring my normie shit here from now on

よろしくお願いします
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>>19046003
あっちけ畜生
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>>19045772
>Like, there are tons of kids in Europe, right now, who are learning English through youtube, games, and forums.

Not like much has changed then.
For me it was subs and 4chan that allowed me to get decent at English (in the 00s).
Only to learn that you practically don't give a shit about the difference between simple past and present progressive.
Do you have any idea how much time is spent on that in class?
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>>19046003
Don't worry, lowercase-german-kun will try again tomorrow I bet.
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>>19046014
>lowercase
>german
How's that possible? Is he a double faggot?
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>>19046031
He's actually quite a nice and helpful person.
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>>19046014
>lowercase-german-kun
How do you know he is german? It's more likely for him to be a SEA fag.
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>>19045980
0と1の間には無限の時間があっても数えきれない数の数字がある
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>>19046012
>the difference between simple past and present progressive
You mean "went" vs "is going"?
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>>19046042
I'm talking about an /int/ poster, not this threads resident cunt. He's the guy that usually makes the /int/djt/ threads.
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>>19046047
No, "went" and "have gone".
Oh wait, that isn't present progressive, it's present perfect. Sorry.
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guess I have to bring my gay shit here from now on
よろしくおねゲイします
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>>19046060
Yeah, it's even the opposite of what they teach, the present perfect is more flexible in usage than the simple past.
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>>19046072
unless you're asking a question, of course, in which case the simple past is preferred most of the time and the present perfect is literally wrong for a lot of the cases where they say that you have to use it

reminder not to trust academic foreign language grammar resources lol
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>>19046097
youre very white
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>それで結局泣き寝入りしてしまうのが善人なのよ。結局のところ、善人なんてのは弱者を耳障り良くしただけのことよ
Fuck it, I have no idea how to read this line.
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>>19046103
ヨーロッパ人だからね
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>>19046104
lol you'll get it some day
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>the absolute state of the google docs guide
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>>19046104
I could explain it to you but I remember having to figure shit like this out on my own and getting nothing but silence or garbage from /djt/ when I tried asking questions, so I'm going to continue that tradition. Go fuck yourself retard.
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>>19046133
Now think if we had explained everything to you, would you have reached this point?
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>>19046133
>/djt/
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>>19046133
based
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>>19046104
それで結局 「泣き寝入りしてしまうのが善人」 なのよ。
結局のところ、善人なんてのは弱者を耳障り良くしただけのことよ
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>>19046097
So does English.
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>>19045474
24/7 is a very big overstatement. And while two native speakers devoted giving the child exposure helps, there have been plenty of examples of children who acquired language without such an environment. Adults have potential to be BETTER at acquiring language, both because they can actively seek out their weak points, and because they are only learning the language and not about world concepts simultaneously. The problem is that adults tend to go about it in a completely different way. They do ridiculous things like engaging in dumbed down conversations with tutors and repeating set phrases, keeping their listening level tied with their speaking level, unnecessarily crippling their listening level. You are overstating the amount and quality of input that the average child receives. They still learn it fine because they are receiving input and some of it is decent.
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>>19046133
kek
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If you dream in japanese a 24/7 input cycle is not impossible
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>>19046163
>Go, went, gone
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>>19046198
That's an exception just like する -> できる and ある -> ない.

English actually has three regular types of verbs though, not two.
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>>19046198
>went, gone
How are those different?
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>>19046215
Those aren't really tenses, but it's also nice to only have a few irregular verbs. Fuck Spanish

>>19046235
>This morning I gone to the bakery to fetch some bread
I don't know
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Lads, why isn't there a DJT in /int/ anymore? Also what do the different colored numbers mean?
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>>19046265
it counts the number of nakadashis
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>>19046260
It's still in past tense.
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>>19046278
You do know English has two of those just that for most verbs they're the same?
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>>19046303
I don't know shit about metalanguage. That guy with the yotsuba reaction implied that there are three tenses.
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>>19046265
Some days it's just too slow to last more than few hours. Though even if it isn't during peak euro hours, it pretty much always dies over night.
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>>19046104
What's the source?
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>>19046391
グリザイアの果実, 天音 route.
Picking it up as my first VN in Japanese sure was a great idea.
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What is Tae Kim's end game.
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>>19046550
More gaijins crowding Japan until they're as diverse as us
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>>19046550
To educate learners on the topic of Japanese grammar.
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>>19046562
That is merely the means anon.
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>>19046550
Guiding weebs into Japan to get rid of them in the US
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>>19046318
No, it's complaining about irregular past tenses and irregular past participles
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>>19046550
The entire guide was written with the purpose of accruing some semblance of authority on the language and subsequently using said authority to convince you that the suffering passive does indeed not exist.
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>>19046614
I mean it doesn't so yeah. It's just a passive.
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I am currently using Anki to learn vocab, radicals, and kanji. There are several I continue to struggle with and I feel being able to study them more frequently than Anki would naturally have them crop up would be greatly beneficial, as I easily forget them. Making a new deck or flash cards individually for these via some other program would be a nuisance; is there a more comfortable way to review certain cards than pic related (I've marked them).
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>>19046759
Just click on hard and again every day if you want to keep seeing them.
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>>19046759
You just gave me cancer. Please leave and never come back, this is not a joke
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>>19046759
>radicals
>individual kanji
>phone
>that amount of shit on a single card
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>行方
why the FUCK is this ゆくえ instead of こうほう

I've LITERALLY failed this card 30 times now because it went to leeches, again
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>>19046953
It's gonna keep going to leeches until you learn that kanji don't make the language.
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How are you supposed to use the "easy" button? I only press it for really old cards.
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>>19046953
Cause it sounds cooler.
行く(ゆく)>>>行く(いく)
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>>19046953
This is why you learn words and not kanji fuckface
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>>19046961
I've literally never pressed it
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>>19046953
what the fuck I've always been reading that as こうほう since I've started learning japanese almost two years ago
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>>19046961
If it's easy enough to warrant pressing easy, it's better to just press delete instead.
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>>19046782
>>19046947
In my defense I was taking a walk and wanted to use my time efficiently. I don't want to be fat anymore.
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>>19046986
That would fuck up your deck stats forever.
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>>19046990
Be slim or be good at Japanese
Pick one you nigger.
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>>19046953
I learned it as a part of 行方不明, it has a nice ring to it.
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>>19046997
>muh stats
出来ない
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>>19047008
t. sub 90% retention faggot that suspends hard cards
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>>19046971
>>19046959
See, I remember the meaning of ゆくえ instantly when I hear it or if I ever saw it in kana, but when I see the card after a while, the reading is so counterintuitive I just can't seem to connect it no matter what
>>19047001
That seems cool, I'll see if mining it helps
>>19046962
this is undeniably true
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>>19047026
>faggot that
It's "who", learn English before attempting nipspeak.
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>>19047041
Cantdoer
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>>19047041
Now rewrite your post in japanese
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>>19047049
djt told me not to produce early.
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>>19046990
>I don't want to be fat anymore.
Exercise is pointless for weight loss. Eat less.
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>>19047077
>Exercise is pointless for weight loss
Holy fuck, are you brain dead?
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>>19047090
Stay fat then.
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>>19047090
You can cut more calories by eating less than through exercising.
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>>19047098
Not the guy your asinine reply was directed to and I went from 270 to 190 in a year.
>>19047103
Sure, but exercising is a good way to increase your deficit so you don't have to make such a drastic reduction in calories that will result in you being less likely to stick with to your weight loss goals. Not to mention the health benefits and the fact that it often turns into an enjoyable hobby for a lot of people. I started biking when I was fat as fuck and still do it now even though I reached my goal weight a long time ago.
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>>19047117
the only sport I need is playing nukige
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>>19047117
>Sure, but exercising is a good way to increase your deficit
No, its not
Its painful, sweaty, hard, time consuming and most people refuse to do it. If you ever offer it as a form of weight loss, even supplemental, you're a fool and no one will listen to you
Thats not even touching on compensatory behaviors post-exercise.
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>>19047117
>biking
Enjoy your 勃起障害
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>>19047126
>If you ever offer it as a form of weight loss, even supplemental, you're a fool and no one will listen to you
What more can you say after something this retarded? Practically every single competent nutritionist or dietitian says the exact opposite.
>Its painful, sweaty, hard, time consuming and most people refuse to do it.
I'm sorry you are such a lazy, no-will-having fat sack of putrid shit, but I'd stop projecting if I were you, it's embarrassing.
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> 誰が学生?
> 学生が誰?
> 学生は誰?
I know those are different, but I'm sure what the difference is.
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>>19047153
Nice /out/ meme. Read more.
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学生の俺
我がク生
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>>19047153
https://8020japanese.com/wa-vs-ga/
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>>19047153
>> 誰が学生?
Who is a student
>> 学生が誰?
This really only works as a part of a longer sentence
>> 学生は誰?
Who is the student

In general, you won't see any of these on their own like this and theres a decent chance the meaning will change in context. It's pointless to worry about these now, just read and figure it out when you see them actually used
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>>19047126
>hard, time consuming and most people refuse to do it
You can't learn Japanese.
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>>19047230
I am though. Because the results of the hard time consuming process are the most efficient means, in this category.
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人生短い
芸術長い
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>>19042913
kanji are a chinese tool and is step one in invading nippon
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>>19047196
Way to spread out what one page of Tae Kim into a whole fucking article.
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Sorry if this is in the guide because I couldn't find it. Is there a program like rikaikun that works for manga and other files that you've actually downloaded?
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>>19047330
Your closest bet is an OCR program like KanjiTomo or Capture2Text
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>>19047338
Thanks I'll look into them
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>>19046953
why not ぎょうほう ? It makes no sense
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>>19047460
It's all in the yomi, 行方 can also be read as なめがた
行方市 is a town in 茨城県
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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Namasensei for learning the Nippongo
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probably because nobody actually watches namasensei for his japanese lessons
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>>19047330
If you have an Android OS tablet, use this: https://forum.koohii.com/thread-11121.html . It's brilliant and can send words directly to other dictionary apps, like Aedict, or Ankidroid cards. The latter makes mining a lot more streamlined.
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>>19047598
That's pretty cool. Don't have one but thanks. Shit like that kind of makes me want to get a tablet, but I don't think I'd ever use it.
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>>19047577
>>>>>namasensei
you can't learn japanese
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>>19047351
共産主義者だよ
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someone make a deck using dragon ball lines and pictures for me
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What exactly does でも mean here? "Even" seems weird, but maybe I should just be thinking of it as emphasis more than a specific word.
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so im learning Japanese but I feel like im learning to slow. I use wanikani which helps me remember better with mnemonics. I tried anki and still use it but I find I forget alot of what I learned without mnemonics to help me.for grammar I use tai kims guide. is thier any way to speed up the process ive been studying for about 7 months now.
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>>19047711
read
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>>19047690
G O O G L E
https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q13116434128
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>>19047711
>I feel like im learning to slow
>I use wanikani
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>>19047724
If he asked that kind of question, what makes you think he can read something like that explanation?
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>>19047670
>asking to be spoonfed
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>>19047670
ok
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>>19047742
is wanni kani not a good way to learn? I feel like its the only way to remember. I tried anki but I just cant remember them well enough and forget most of them.

>>19047717
I hear reading kids books help is that what you mean?
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>>19047832
read
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>>19047835
stop posting this page, it's fucking piss easy
if you want to shitpost at least use something hard
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>>19047848
actually I post a different page every time
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>>19047835
>read even though you have to use some sort of OCR program for most content
yea no thanks...
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>>19047724
chiebukuro is absolute trash, why do people keep posting answers from there?
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Started mining 3 weeks ago, am I gonna make it guys?
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>>19047835
im not on that level yet I dont know enough words to read all that
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>>19047850
find a harder LN
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>>19047863
i use the easiest one i have for a reason
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Reminder that Anki cannot teach vocab.
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Mining sentences takes too long.
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>>19047690
It's kinda hard to explain, but in simple terms it adds 'if possible' to it. So that line would be like:
If possible, lets go back right now.

Its not an exact translation but its something like that
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>>19047854
It answers the question so what's the problem?
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>>19047871
What do you reccomend?
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>>19047951
Reading.
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>>19047955
Oh yeah, do people really think of anki as something to learn vocab by itself? I can't imagine thinking I would improve without actually reading native materials.
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is wanikani bad at teaching you vocab and kanji? or slow or something?
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>>19047955
What use is jumping straight to reading after learning kana if I can't even tell which entry in yomichan is relevant to the gibberish on my screen?
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>>19047977
>context
figure out the entry by looking at other words, even the entry for those other words if you have to. If you can't figure stuff out by context than you unironically cannot learn Japanese
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>>19047724
>>19047743
>>19047879
I appreciate it.
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>>19047871
It does though.
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I hope I'm able to converse in Japanese with the regulars here some day. Even the ones who want to tell me to go back to pleddit for making this post.
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>>19048246
I wont tell you to go back there, but rather the japanese thread on /int/
Not the deceased DJT mind you, and I believe the spammer is gone
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>>19048246
Oh boy you'll sure be surprised when you find out nobody here is actually capable of maintaning a conversation in japanese
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>>19048258
>why can't learners that have no interest in production speak japanese????
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俺の勉強は抜きゲーに優先ので、喋る習うのは価値なしだぜ
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>>19048290
ただシコるために外国語を勉強して恥ずかしくないかい
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>>19048303
こんな所で皆そうだったと思ったのに‥‥
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Grinding plants and foods in Anki sure is great.
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>今度はあの娘にしちょうっと。
next, show me that girl?

what is 'shichoutto'?
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>>19048315
subscribed
>>19048332
try again
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>>19048344
that girl recently caught my interest?
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>就く
>就いて
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>>19048266
Pathetic, insecure manchild.
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>>19047197
>It's pointless to worry about these now, just read and figure it out when you see them actually used
It didn't help you.
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RTK takes to long? I will do 1k kanji tomorrow and report back on the subject.
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How many reps do you guys usually do in Anki daily? I've been doing anki for a couple of weeks and I'm looking at 160 reviews + 20 new cards right now.
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>>19048667
69 new a day, 420 reviews
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>>19048672
That seems like a lot, how long does that take?
I usually take a little over an hour for mine.
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>>19048674
It says I studied 148.8 minutes today
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>>19048688
Damn, that's pretty impressive.
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>>19048313
Brush up on your particles senpai, it should be では or just は
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What do each of the different coloured numbers mean?
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>>19048832
blue are the new cards
red are the cards you've hit "again" on
green are reviews you haven't looked at today
the underline shows which category the current card falls under
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>>19048863
Ah thanks.
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>>19048389
Having some difficulty coming to terms with this thread I see ;)
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>>19048672
共産主義者です
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>>19048921
I studied for (14-3)*60 minutes today
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>>19048929
not supposed to be a response sorry
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>>19048315
You should probably use anki for studying and not for cooking with. Most computers dont do well on a stove.
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>>19041711
Except it does, especially if you have a shit visual memory. Whether the time invested is worth the increased ease of understanding the kanji depends on the person.
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How informal are expressions containing くそ?
E.g. 胸糞が悪い、下手糞...
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>>19049122
the formality depends on whether or not you add ですわ to the end.
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What does this mean?
そんなわけがあるものかい
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>>19049183
not a translation thread
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how hard is 素晴らしき日々?
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>>19046759
I tried WK's kanji deck early on (but didn't bother with the vocab cause it looks crap) - did you import that correctly? The answer field should have separate fields and the card format will only use a few of them.
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>>19049461
why did you post this here?
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>>19049555
The same reason why the other 300 odd offtopic shitposts are spammed in this general on a threadly basis. Poor moderation and cancerous shitposters who know they can get away with it and will continuing doing so until people stop feeding them with attention.
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Can you center the {sentence english} of mined words? It's putting me off when it's on the side. I'm used to it being in the middle.
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>>19049834
Sure thing, it's basic css.
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>tfw 86% retention rate
I just want in to the 90% club man
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>>19047861
>Studied 233 cards in 95 minutes today
??????
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>>19049864
Just remember them :^)
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>>19049896
Something wrong?
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>>19049932
Hes concerned you produce a 20 meter steel ball, and place it in a room with an immortal butterfly
every time that butterfly grazes the ball, until it is eventually gone, you answer a card
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>>19049940
90% of the words I mine have 3-5 different meanings so I like thinking it through, it used to take me 20-30 minutes when I just breezed through it without thinking much, didn't feel like they stuck enough. I recognize all the kanji I study on anki outside of it now.
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are you supposed to write words down from Anki?
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>>19050015
>writing
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>>19050078
>not writing
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anki isn't writing.
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>>19049045
nope
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>>19041068
I know this is two days late but he clearly said "has anyone here".
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>>19050285
are you implying something
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>>19047001
Thanks for the heads-up, I always read that as こうほうふめい and wondered why I never heard it.

ゆくえふめい pops up all the fucking time.
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Someone is using the obenkyo app on Android?

I'm trying to find a good replacement since it's buggy for me. I'm learning kanji by writing, and I can't find a decent one.
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I haven't read anything in the past 2 weeks.
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>>19050790
You must be watching a lot of manga.
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>>19050822
Not even.




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