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>>32972709
Where da fuck is my Cupro Niggas @? Post dat sheit
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Long Mauser is best Mauser.
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>>32997506
Contributing
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>>32997519
SOMEWHAT
W R O N G
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>RARE LONG MAUSER IS BEST MAUSER
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>>32997519
Nope, short Mauser is best.
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>>32997546
>What are you gonna do; stab me with brittle metal shards?
~Quote from man killed by 1903 receiver shrapnel.

>>32997598
Long Mauser-brand Mauser best Mauser.
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>>32997623
>the blow uppy gun meme
Ill fokin nip ya m8 I swears
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All Mauser look like trash. There I said it.
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>>32997598
>Danzig

The most metal of Mausers
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>>32997644
Praise kek

>>32997645
so he posts a fucking 91/30 lel
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>>32997655
KEK YOU HAVE BLESSED ME TWICE IN ONE THREAD. PRAISE YOU
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>>32997655
You're going to have to accept it mate.
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>>32997670
>talks shit about 91/30s
>shitposts about gets
Typical
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>>32997645
PU Mosins look nice.

I'd love one for hunting. All kinds of commercial loads are available for 54R.
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>>32997683
>that stock repair

Never seen one like that before, that's new.

Is that a Finn repair or something?
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>>32997683
What factory did your 91 roll out of? The stock repair looks p fuckin cool
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>>32997655
>talking shit about mosins

Don't you ever talk to me or my grandparents ever again
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>>32997750
>DAT FINNISH 91/30
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>>32997728
Finns spliced stock blanks together from two smaller pieces; it saved lumber.
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>>32997763
which one, they're both Finn "captures"

>tfw the Finns took the time to blue a regular 91/30 and ensure every part got back to it so it'd match
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Why cant i find a ross mk III in america.


Also i still want to buy someones k31. Il through in a rack of beer your choice
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Odd mosin question here, When the soviets steamrolled the Estonians did they really destroy/convert all of their Mosins. Is their really no existing Estie Mosin anymore?

>>32997799
The one on the bottom

>>32997810
>tfw the only Ross Rifles I can find are sporterized very badly
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>>32997834
It hurts. I think the ross would be a neat rifle to add to the collection. Ive heard theyre great shooters and i can sort of afford to shoot .303 regularly
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>>32997834
Yeah the moment I saw the hex with a Finn stock I had to have it.
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I need new pictures of my No.4.

I also need to drift the front sight. Is the sight adjustment tool worth it? Or should I just use punches?
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>>32997891
Just use a punch, but remember to loosen the set screw first (if yours has such a sight base).
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>>32997598
>that
>short

hue
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reposting from last thread, anyone every shoot/have any info on Chinese 8mm Mau Mau from the 50s? Stuff looks pretty clean
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>>32997957
It has the reverse Philips screw head, so I'll have to sacrifice a screwdriver.
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>>32997984
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>have mauser 98
>bolt is ridiculously stiff

what's the best way of making the action less stiff? lots of lube? go to /fit/ and get ridiculous gainz?
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>>32998011
Both, unironically tho does it have a heavy after market bolt spring?
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>>32997984
>>32997999
If it doesn't have any surface corrosion and you can still hear the loose powder inside go ahead and shoot it. To be extra safe maybe pull one of the bullets and check for clumping powder or any signs of interior corrosion.

>>32998011
Did you clean all the cosmo out of the spring and interior of the bolt body? Does the cocking piece # match the bolt body #?.
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Man those $200 Mausers people are getting look rough. Hope that one anon in the thread gets a nice one.
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>>32997984
My rule of thumb is to never trust surplus 8mm unless it's Yugo.
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>>32998011
Have you tried disassembling the bolt and cleaning it?
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>>32998104
Really? I have had pretty good luck with T*rkshit, Albeit I need a new spring from my 98 bolt cus of light primer strikes. I got this Ching Chong shit for my collection but its so clean I might shoot this one and get another. Its a buck a shot so I probably wont shoot much of it
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>>32998104
>never trust surplus 8mm
More for me then.
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>>32998059

I fucked up /k/.

I tried disassembling my mauser bolt without the safety on and I tried screwing off the firing pin and now I can't get it back on to switch the safety on.

wtf do I do?
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>>32998163
I fell like T*rkshit 8mm took a huge fucking dive in quality when they went to Copper jacket bullets. Shits is nothing but click bangs and duds
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>>32998144
I had a bad experience my first time with surplus, so I don't touch the stuff anymore. I do have some surplus 7.62x54R and Yugo 8mm stocked up in case of an emergency though.

>>32998163
Take all you want. I'm done with corrosive stuff.
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>>32998187
press the striker against a table and push until you can move the safty
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>>32998233
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>>32998233
>>32998246
I need a 16 incher for my 1903s
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Real talk /k/

Restore or continue to part out?

I bought it at the LGS because i needed parts and it was cheap enough. Now I'm having second thoughts. Its a 22nd series Kokura with a chrome bore, beautiful rifling, AA sights, and sadly a ground mum. Bolt is mismatched but is chrome faced (and matches itself) from a Howa or Izawa going by the series.


Wood is fucked. Cut off at the band and so stupidly heavily sanded the (missing) buttplate doesn't even have inletting anymore. Handguard is a qtpie but is also cut, though it wasn't sanded. May keep the wood handy for repair fodder, or maybe doctor it up and throw a rebored bubba into it for milsurp durr

I'm only 120 into it, so if i can get a proper stock with the metal i could have a complete rifle for normal prices.
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>>32998299
>Jap 99
>99 get
wew, isnt there a company that makes replacement forends for rifles like the Type 99 that have been duffel cut?
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>>32998258
I highly recommend it
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>>32998194
>I fell like T*rkshit 8mm took a huge fucking dive in quality when they went to Copper jacket bullets
I have had my only actual Turk duds with 1950-dated stuff with the copper-colored jackets.
>Shits is nothing but click bangs and duds
Have you tried a heavier spring?

>>32998202
>I had a bad experience my first time with surplus, so I don't touch the stuff anymore.
That's why you always wear your eye-pro.

>I'm done with corrosive stuff.
>tfw you have corrosive 7.62NATO
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>>32998233
>tfw I'm getting the Eddystone itch

Might have to shell out for a P14 or M1917 soon.
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>>32998207
which end would I push? the front part where the extractor is or the back? The firing pin is coming out near the extractor I pushed on that and the safety won't budge.
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>>32998233
>>32998347
Except upon further review I see that's a 1903a3. I'm a dipshot.
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>>32998374
Dipshit*
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>>32998349
You put the contact surface of the cocking piece against some solid edge like a table and use it to compress the mainspring, moving it back out of the bolt shroud until you can again engage the safety lever to retain it.
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>>32998322
I think Numrich did. But the wood is beyond saving like that.

As you can see. literally sanded flat. no urushi left. Even the sides were this heavily sanded, the handguard is actually wider than the stock
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>>32998340
I know I need a heavier spring but I tested some of the Copper t*rkshit in a mauser that just had a new one added and it did the same thing. Stuff given me the worst groups out of the different types of 8mm Mau Mau I have shot
>also French .308
Just grabbed the Last Box of French M2 Ball from a shop.

>>32998349
Post pic of bolt

Also while on the subject of 8mm, Anyone know anything of Italian 8mm Mauser? Was only able to get this one box so I wont be shooting any of it. What the fuck did Italy have in 8mm Mauser? Converted Breda's?
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>>32998438
What the fuck why would they do that? God damn Bubba is dumb
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i have a mosin with a really loose magazine.

if i tighten the magazine screw, the bolt locks up so bad after firing that you have to kick it open. possible reasons for this and is it worth looking into fixing? i do love the gun, even with its wiggly mag.
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>>32998436
>>32998450

okay thanks for the help I finally understood what to push and got it to safety position.

thanks so much for the help!
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>>32998488
I have no idea why it would be doing that but is there any reason why you dont have a rear sight?
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>>32998450
>What the fuck did Italy have in 8mm Mauser?
It was made for export, hence the English on the box.
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>>32998540
Wow holy fuck that didnt even cross my mind lmao, wonder who it was supposed to go to. inb4 literally just commercial fmj
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>>32998528
previous owner took it off to mount a scope. i've since put it back on.
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>>32998562
Ah, Maybe he put hardwear store screws that are two long?
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>>32998464
>Gee this stock here is just an inch too long
>I know, I'll take a saw to it and saw that sumbitch down till it's perfect.
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>>32998560
>wonder who it was supposed to go to
Egypt, Syria, Israel, Saudi Arabia, or Iraq maybe. Lots of 8x57 users around the Mediterranean.
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>>32998586
>tfw Milsurp is drying up
>Most of it is just going out to dirt farmers in the middle east

Goddammit just sell them norinco AK's and leave the historical stuff for me.
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>>32998614
They like their milsurp tho; the Ayatollah even preaches with a Mauser by his side.
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>>32998614
I talked to someone from Kurdistan about a year ago and she was telling me that Nazi Marked 98s are fucking SUPER common there, told her how desirable those and the STG are. Probably dead now desu
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>>32998614
>>32998635
Middle East is where militarily irrelevant guns and calibers go to die.
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>>32998672
>militarily irrelevant guns and calibers go to live.
FTFY
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>>32998580
i do remember getting some pretty wonky screws in the bag with the rear sight, but i think they were from the scope mount.

hadn't thought about that being a problem that would muck with the bolt, but it makes sense if there's something out of alignment because of it. thanks for the help, i'll have to check it out this weekend.
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>Buy new cleaning kit to use for my mosin
>The kit comes with a rod a few inches too short because apparently people don't make 4 fucking foot long rifles anymore

Goddammit
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>>32998823
Yeah, I have to really shove my cleaning rod in there with my Mosin.

Don't have any problems with my Mauser, but it is a shorter rifle.
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>>32998823
holy crap this thing is dirty. 20 patches later and they're still coming out dirty.
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>>32998823
You should try using it for it's intended purpose.
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>>32999243
have you tried turning it off an on again?
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>>32999669
It all makes sense now

>>32999702
I am of not understand joke comrade.

On the bright side, I found out both my mosins are D shanked.

On the downside, I damn near got my barrel brush permanently stuck in it. Thankfully I got it out without any damage, it was just tighter than a 17 year old prom queen.

Lesson learned, Finn Mosin is not for barrel brush. That D shank apparently makes for a pretty tight fit on 7.62/
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>>32999812
don't let any of them fancy 'guides' and 'manuals' tell you otherwise... THIS is the proper use of your cleaning rod.
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>>32999861
>>32999669
Somewhere there is a Soviet veteran in his 90's just sniffing and thinking to himself "Do I smell chicken?"
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>>32997871
>and i can sort of afford to shoot .303 regularly
Isn't it the same price as virtually all other non surplus .30 odd caliber milsurp food these days?
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>>32999812
The "D shank" has nothing to do with bore diameter
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This type 99 is selling for 325$. I examined the markings and it's pretty nice. A little bit of surface rust and such though. Do you guys think it's a good deal? Also what is a good guide for restoring, rebluing, rust removal and such? YouTube always people doing different things like using Windex.
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>>33001435
>restoring
Don't. Leave it alone.
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>>32997834

Estonian Mosins:
http://www.mosinnagant.net/global%20mosin%20nagants/TheUseOfTheMosinNagantInEstonia.asp
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>>32997834
>Is their really no existing Estie Mosin anymore?
There are a couple in Tallinn, and at least one in the wild.
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>>33001435
Pass on it, that's a lot for an Arisaka that's not absolutely perfect.
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http://www.armslist.com/posts/6434654/el-paso-texas-rifles-for-sale--french-mas-1936

This a good ddeal if it checks out?
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>>33001926
Yes, very
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>>33001872
I thought those markings being Estonian were debunked.
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Picked up a k31 recently. I read online that sometimes the troop tag is kept in the Butt plate and to my surprise I actually found one. It got me thinking if any other milsurp rifles are like this. I own about 12 other milsurp but have never had the need to remove the butt plate on them. Anyone know of any other countries that did something similar?
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>>33001926
Missing it's front sling loop but otherwise that's a decent deal.
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>>33002198
No, it's a Swiss thing.
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Does /msg/ have a working FAQ or pastebin guide?

I really want to get in to collecting milsurp but would love a list of price ranges to expect on certain models
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>>33002079
>I thought those markings being Estonian were debunked.
Source?
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?194153-Estonian-Mosin-Nagants
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>>33002526
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>>33002536
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>>33002495
Prices change so frequently it's not something you can make a guide on. Condition and markings further confuse things.
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>>33001926
Holy shit. That's like less than half of its value. Buy I think ASAP, anon.
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>>33001872
>you will never get your hands on Eesti Mosin
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>>33002495
http://7.62x54r.net/
Is a good website for Mosin's.
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ping
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Finally took some pictures of my ex dragoon.
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You're gonna rotate it sideways aren't you 4chan?
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>>33005717
>import marked on the receiver.

Of all the stupid shit, forcing import marks to be on a super noticable part of the gun bugs me the most.

I know why it's there for legal reasons, but man if that isn't a giant "fuck you collectors," like that import mark.
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>>33005771
Please don't remind me, I try to ignore it.
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should I buy a nagant revolver

y/n

I really want to do it, ammo doesn't even look to be that expensive
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>>33005860
>I really want to do it
Then do it. They're fun, and can be pretty accurate if you know how to work the trigger.
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>>33001952
>>33002364
>>33002746
Any issues these rifles tend to have that I should look for when I check it out?
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>>33005970
As long as they haven't fucked with the stock no. Surplus ammo was (is) corrosive so be sure to check the bore.
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So I mentioned I found a mauser with all the German markings scrubbed off that was otherwise identical to a '43 98k next to it. I was told it was probably Romanian.

Are those decent Mausers if I want a shooter? Do they have any historical value with the markings being scrubbed? Since I have Finn rifles it would be a cool start to a "one of all the minor Axis powers" collection potentially but I dont want to pick up a rifle that was refurrb surplus rifle used in the years after WWII.

What tends to be a going rate for them? Not really seeing much listed as Romanian Mausers on GunBroker. Are they called VZ24's or is that something different?
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>>33007904
If you want a shooter they're fine and have value of their own, but fiscally speaking not as much as a unmolested German one. However it is almost a guarantee that they were used after the war by the Romanians, not during the war, at least in such a condition. Nowadays they're around $450 or so.
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>>33007952
would $450 be for a nice one or a lower end one?
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>>33008015
For a Romanian 98k? It'd be a fair price for a good example. For a vz24? I can't say with certainty, but its on the higher side and would probably have to be pretty nice.
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I can't fucking stand it /k/

I want to shoot my Mosin and Shield but I have hardly any spare ammo. I don't want to buy anymore because I'm saving for an SKS. AND I can't buy an SKS until I get my tax return in mid-March.

I JUST WANT MY SKS FUCK
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>>32998322

might sound like bullshit, but it is just as simple as checking ebay. i see stock/handguard sets all the time.

personally, looking at picking up a barrel for my type 38
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we C&R colt SP1s now
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>>33009264
Yes, but those aren't milsurp.
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>>33009325
I figured they would count here because they're C&R. oh well
on that note, is it worth it to get a C&R license?
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>>33009379
Depends how much you buy online. If you're like me, and buying an average of 1 gun a month off Gunbroker, then yeah it's pretty useful. Otherwise not really, more of a hassle than anything.
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>>33009379
>>33009578
Also I should mention that even if you get a C&R, you should keep a transfer dealer on hand. Not everyone accepts a C&Rob unfortunately.
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>sell extra nugget to some roof korean in commiefornia
>His ffl just gives me the license number and a link to the atf ffl verification page
>Tell him thata great but still need tgat license
>Tells me i only need that verification page to send it
>Literally refuses to send a scan of the license
>Tells me they can't receive it as id ot was my fault

I see why people don't deal with CA now. I may just tip the atf off to this guy.
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>>33010045
sell it to this Californian you nigger
my FFL isn't retarded. He just overcharges
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>>33010107
Kim jung luls already paid for it, he just chose a terrible ffl. The first ffl he chose said they'd send the license three times and found something else to do each time.
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>>33010471
>The Northern third going with CA
Lmao no
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>>33010440
What are those gold spots on the Mosin?
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>>33011295
Do you mean the end caps on the handguard?
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>want a nice historical plinkster
>m1 carbine fits the bill perfectly
>mfw those fucking prices

why the hell is the m1 carbine so damn expensive now a days?
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>tfw no pattern 1917
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>>33002526
>>33002536
>>33002565
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>>33001872
>The Estonian Mosin is basically a shortend M91 with an M1917 Enfield front sight
P cool desu
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>>33011342
There's no such thing as a "Pattern 1917".

>>33011346
Eesti had a lot of Pattern 1914 rifles gifted from England (as did the other Baltics). They also made special target/sniper's rifles from Arisaka Type-30s they got from both Russia and the Royal Navy.
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>>33011317
Is that what they are? I just know that they look gold.

My Mosin doesn't have any gold on it.
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>>33011342
>tfw no K31, Lee-Enfield, or M39

I just want to collect more old rifles.
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>>33011416
Its brass ya dingus
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>>33011453
I'd prefer them to be made of gold instead of brass if that counts
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>>33011435

I know this feel
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I recently bought 5 milsurp rifles at an estate sale, two are semi automatics and the rest are bolt actions. Do you guys believe it's necessary to take these to a gunsmith for safety checks? The gunsmiths around me all charge $40-100 per rifle for just a simple safety check. If anyone here has any stories of catastrophic or just potentially dangerous failures of their milsurp guns I would be very interested in hearing them.
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>>33012346
You actually have gunsmiths around willing to look at yours?

Around here apparently no one will touch a gun unless it's hunting rifle, AR 15, or 9mm/45, given that the only gun smith in town recommended me to another guy and he won't return my calls or emails.

I'm about to have to drive an hour at this rate just to find a gunsmith who isn't afraid of a gun made more than 20 years ago.
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>>33012385
I haven't called anyone or set anything up yet, only checked websites for prices. I just don't want that thought in the back of my head that the rifle I'm shooting will blow gas in my face, or the straight bolt on the k31 I picked up is going to blow back and break my nose or some stupid shit.
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>>33012346
>>33012444
https://youtu.be/A-BWo2RPhyA

This is for a Lee Enfield, but the basic principles apply to all your guns. Bore obstructions or grease, firing pin protrusion and shape, deep pitting, cracks in the stock or the metal, rounding or mis-shaping of the metal in your trigger oor sear assembly.

Any old gunsmith won't suffice because they won't necessarily know how to get your gun apart or trouble spots to look for. I've never paid one myself but I'm also a metallurgist with years of experience in quality control and destructive and non-destructive testing. Also, wear your safety glasses.
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>>33015424
Damn I've been craving one of those early Mausers.
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>>33015560
I still haven't completely stripped it to get all the cosmoline out of it.
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>>33015681
Shame the crest is missing on that, it looks immaculate otherwise.
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>>33015733
This one was refinished in service I think; the national seals on the handguard and stock were sufficiently diminished by sanding that they weren't scrubbed like the crest on the receiver.
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Updated rear sight for spitzer 7.65x54mm; so if I ever get around to shooting it the graduations will be consistent with the ammo's ballistic trajectory.
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>>33015560
Get a Peruvian M1891 updated for spitzer ammo; an M1891 action with a Lange-Vizier sight.
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>>33016171
>Implying I don't want both.
I love the look of Lange Visier, but hate the sights.
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>>33016192
>I love the look of Lange Visier, but hate the sights.
When you look this good, you don't have to hit anything.
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Question. I got a brit 1907 bayo for my Enfield MKIII and I was wondering how to clean it. The scabbard is leather which I assume is beyond help, but the blade is rather nice and oily, and the wood is a bit dark. Is there any way to revitalize the wood and make it less oily without taking it apart? Thanks boys.
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R8 my 1987 Bulgarian Makarov. Got it from Sportsman's Guide for $250, but I had to replace the hammer spring.
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>>33016368
Terrible-picture/shits


Phones are not an acceptable replacement
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where can I get a Finnish M39 besides gunbroker? I know places like classic firearms are sold out of their massive stockpiles and what not but there are none in local gun shops.

surely there is some place that has some they bought on the cheap in the last few years and are willing to flip them for big profit to a sucker like me besides just the auction sites
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>>33011394
There is however such thing as not being a pedantic faggot. You know what they meant by pattern 1917
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>>33017024
There's such a thing as being "correct"; which I am and he —probably (you)— is/are not.
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>>32998634
>a fucking cheese kurd has a VZ98 and I don't
How the fuck are they so cheap if they are so hard to find? I don't have the cash for a G98 and the VZ98 is essentially a poor man's version.
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>>33016368
You know the hammer spring isn't actually a hammer, right?
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>>33017079
That's an Iranian Vz.98/29; they're easy to find.

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=persian+mauser
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Is $700 too much for this 1903a3?
http://www.armslist.com/posts/6355178/madison-wisconsin-rifles-for-sale--springfield-m1903
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>>33017157
I'd say that's fair price; it's not an A3 BTW.
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Get a load of this goi

Another Arisaka has been fucked

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Japanese-Arisaka-Rifle-Type-99-Barrel-W-Trigger-Receiver-Early-Nice-WW2/122353976073?_trksid=p2055119.c100022.m2048&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122153519%26meid%3Dfbc3a8759b204fa69514dec1a9f7f4f3%26pid%3D100022%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D222408533739

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Japanese-Arisaka-Rifle-Type-99-Complete-Stock-Original-Early-WW2-Clean/122354257176?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41393%26meid%3D8de52f8a1d474ccabd5e2962c7a385ed%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D122353976073
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>>33016989
No, because that's a shitty way to run a business. You don't stockpile inventory hoping for it to be more valuable in the future, especially in such a legally volatile market as firearms.
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>>33016989
Keep your eyes out for classic to relist some. They were out of K31s until recently when "a small rare shipment" came in. They're really bad about doing shit like that, but I keep going back
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>>33017333
>selling a gun on ebay
The absolute madman
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>>33005970
>>33005995
>>33002364
>>33001926
It's also missing the rear part of the handguard. Someone cut it off, for some reason.
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anyone have experience dealing with Classic Firearms? how are they? what are the shipping costs like?
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>>33019866
You're right, didn't notice that. Wouldn't get it like that, the bedding is almost certainly fucked.
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>>33017333
The assholes that part out rifles piss me off to no end. At least the idiot didn't make a listing with every single little part. Hopefully someone will buy both and put it back together where it belongs.

It's a 5th series Nagoya Arsenal made rifle.
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>>33017333
is that even legal? technically the reciever is the firearm right?
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>>33020050
Legal to sell. Illegal to ship out of state except to FFL holders.
Against EBay policies so he's probably gonna lose his account and have his PayPal locked and seized.
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>>33020050
>>33019975

Against ebay rules. Should I report?
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>Know I shouldn't buy the German parts Mauser nearby
>want to save it from the fate of >>33017333
>know I shouldn't buy it because in all likelihood it's not worth it
>there's like 10 other Mausers, mosins, and even some old WWI sporterized Enfield's there as well
>Every day have to consciously prevent myself from driving by it

This is why I can't go into animal shelters, I try to adopt all the poor little animals. Except these are even more expensive to feed.
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>>33016337
A little saddle soap for the leather, if it's not so bad that applying it would pull the thing apart. Rag and oil is all you need for the blade, unless there's active red rust. If the wood is oily, like with machine oil or general purpose oil, you'd have to scrub and leech it out of the wood which will do more harm than good likely. I would leave the wood, wipe away the oil with a rag and, if you want, the faintest hint of mineral spirits/paint thinner.
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>>33016337
>>33023168
Saddle soaps and similar things shouldn't be used. Stuff made for boots and saddles, things that are meant to be used versus things meant to preserve leather are two completely different things.

The best way to preserve leather is to keep it in a stable environment.
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/145338-conservation-tips-for-great-war-leather-artifacts/
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>>32997506
Looking to get a Greek FN30 Mauser.
Any reccomendations or directions?
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>>33024699
Gunbroker, Rock Island Auction, Amoskeag Auction, James D. Julia. Gunboards' Trader. If you want one in good + matching condition prepare your angus.
>I don't even have a picture of Greek soldiers with M30s.
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Hey boys

I got my first gun, an m44 nagant. Where can I get the best deal on non corrosive ammo?
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>>33024969
Doesn't have to be genuine. Thanks for the sources.
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>>33020120
I'm going to. Fuck that guy.
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>>33025537
>>33020120
>>33020050
>>33017333
The dickhead's gonna have a lot of fun soon.
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>>33025017
At your own Reloading press.

Failing that, ammoseek.com
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>>33025017
There is no such thing as an m44 nagant. A nagant is a revolver.
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>>33025017
>Where can I get the best deal on non corrosive ammo?
There is nothing wrong with "corrosive" ammo. All you need to do is flush the barrel out with water as it leaves hygroscopic salts in the bore.
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>>33025692
I'd assume that those salts get around in more than just the barrel.
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>>33025718
Mostly the barrel, but also the bolt face, which you can wipe down with a damp rag.
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>>33025718
Not really, like >>33025754 said, its really only the bore.
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>>33025692
Or just clean thoroughly as normal
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>>33017333
It got take down. Kek
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Does this crown look nicked?
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>>33028532
Looks shootable to me
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>>33028588
It doesn't look like the very end of that land is gouged to you?
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>>33028602
Not badly enough to seriously affect accuracy
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>>33028532
Literally garbage, good luck hitting the side of a barn with that
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If I wanted to go about finding No4 Mk1 Lee Enfield stocks to replace a sporterized one, where would I find them? Tried googling it, but holy shit some of those sites don't make any sense to navigate.

To reiterate, I'm just looking for a full No4 Mk1 stock set to replace a sporterized stock.
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>>33029070
Check this site out.
https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewcategories.asp?idCategory=63
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>>32998299
Rifle-Stocks.com can cut a stock to 96% for a large variety of rifles, to include a couple types of Arisaka rifles. You'll need basic wood working skills and some tools to get it to fit. . . a dremel is a godsend.

http://www.rifle-stocks.com/actions_available.htm
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>>32998586
My guess would be it's an ex-Persian (Iranian) Mauser.
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>>33029594
>$150 for a set
Damn, is that an average/normal price? Also, does that set come with barrel bands, or do I have to get those separate?

The one I'm looking at (at LGS, haven't jumped on it yet cause financially responsible) looks pretty close to pic related. I guess the guy who had it before free floated the barrel. So if I jump on it, I'll have to drop another $150 on a stock set, and a few more $$ for barrel bands and such?

If you guys were doing this as a project for yourselves, what would be your limit to spend total (for rifle, parts, etc)? I'm just curious if I'm about to get into something that costs more than it's worth.

Plan on putting it to use, by the way, not for any collector value since the guy already turned it into a sporter.
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>>32997519
What did that cost you?
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>>33030031
>If you guys were doing this as a project for yourselves
I wouldn't. You'll spend more money than the thing is worth.
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>>33030031
I'm pretty new to the Enfield, so I couldn't tell you what a good price for the stock is.

Yes, you'll need to get the barrel bands, sling loops, front sight protector and such.

Kinda depends on how much the rifle is and its condition.

I wouldn't unless you really want to restore it.
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>>33030031
You are. It'll never be worth what you put into it money wise. So you can either do it, rationalizing that it'll be restoring history. Or you can turn it into a replica of something much harder to obtain, like a sniper or something.
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>>33030087
>>33030159
>>33030188
Well shit. In that case, where's a good place to find a good condition Enfield that can be reliably used that hasn't been sporterized? That's pretty much all I'm really looking for; a No1 or No4 I can take with me hiking or hunting cause I'm dumb and a sucker for the aesthetic and also 10 rounds of .303.
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>>33030240
Gunbroker.
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>>33030240
This>>33030252. Or luck out like I did, and check out the Cabela's used rack.
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>>33029848
To what are you referring, exactly?

>>33030057
>What did that cost you?
$750, which was probably too much considering the stock was partially-stripped of finish because someone over-enthusiastically cleaned it. On the other hand, it is 99% matching; only the cleaning rod is off. I think it may have been a War Bond rifle; the firing pin tip was deliberately bent until it snapped.

I wanted a Gew.98 really bad, and a 1914-dated Mauser-brand Mauser with so many matching numbers I just couldn't let go. I picked up an all-matching 1899-dated Argentine Model 1891 for $250 and a post-Civil War refurbished-matching 1923-dated Spanish Model 1893 for $250 on the same day though, so it all works out I suppose.
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>>33030252
>>33030324
Is $650-$700 a good price range for a No.1 or No.4? Or is that an unreasonable amount? Most local shops around here tend to price things high. But then again, I've noticed milsurp prices HAVE been going up.
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>>33030632
That's pretty high for a No4, and depends on which example of a No1 you're dealing with.
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Probably a dumb question, but is it safe to use the cleaning rods that come with milsurp rifles?
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>>33031283
With a bore guide yeah. Bit most of them are to short to go breach to muzzle so why would you use it
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>>33031283
Best to avoid it if possible; you have a bigger budget for cleaning supplies than the army that ordered the rifle. I have a 40" carbon-fiber rod for mine.
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>>33031283
>>33031353
A lot of the cleaning rods do not have the jags as they were in a pouch or only given to the squad leader. The slotted end is usually for a screwdriver.
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Just bought an M48 for 250. Is this a reasonable price
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>>33031966
Does it matter? You're not gonna get that money back now.

But yeah that's decent.
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>>33031966
Yeah.
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Yay or nay? ~$650 for a very clean Argentine 1909 w/ matching numbers.
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>>33032116
For $650 it'd better be in un-issued condition.
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>>33031966
I just sold an m48 for 250.
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Lost the lot of rifles i bid on, shit sucks.

I signed up for notifications if i was outbid but never got one.
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>>33032549
Gunbroker? Or are you a primary seller?
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>>33032674
Gunbroker? Yeah their app has a lot of...issues.
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Really want to get a Garand, is the CMP still the best way to get one in decent shape? What's an easy to join club to get me in the door with the CMP?
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>>33032690
Yeah. It was a type 38 so its not like a huge loss but i thought i was gonna steal it you know.

I took the money and put it on some enfields at ria, see if i have better luck there
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>>32997506
what's a cupro?
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>>33033408
Im pretty sure it refers to the ammo. Its a copper nickel jacket on the bullet
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bamp
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Did J&G anon ever get his Spanish Mauser?
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My Type 30 Carbine is finally here.
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>>33035368
The
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>>33035373
>The
The what?
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>>33035380
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>>33035368
>>33035373
>>33035380
>>33035385
Neat. So the T30 Carbine doesn't have any handguard at all?
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>>33035373
>>33035380
I declare this a new meme. When posting a picture of a new rifle, you must post "The"
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>>33035709
Nope, it did not.
>>33035368
>>33035373
>>33035380
>>33035385
So is it matching? It has the correct brass ended cleaning rod that Type 30s used. IIRC really early Type 38s did too.
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>>33036915
>All matching
No, but for $600 I couldn't pass it up. And it's not a trainer either.
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>see a springfield for 200 dated 1918
>it's fucked to hell but not sporterized
>see a smith & corona springfield for 900 from 1943
>it looks perfect

which should I go for? the $200 looks like it will take a fuck ton of work since they fucked with the stock, iron sights, and did weird shit with it. the 900 is straight out of the box and is cheaper than most good condition springfields.
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What do you guys think of the Stgw 57 as my first semi auto milsurp?

I can buy either a Stgw 57 or an SKS for the same price.

What should I get?
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>>33037474
Depends how self righteous you feel you are. On the one hand you'll be spending the same amount either way, but the restoration will never be a good return financially. On the other hand, you're rebuilding a old war horse, putting in hard work for something you care about and are preserving history. Also you can make it look immaculate without feeling guilty or getting shit on.
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>>33037496
>Swiss precision quality engineering or crude slaveshit
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>>33037516

I also found this one on gun broker:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/621360984

looks nice but holy shit that grease is unreal.

and what is the difference between a smith and corona make and a springfield make? it seems to really fuck with the prices.
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>>33037533
>Mark 1
You aren't getting that. Not for less than $1500. I'll guarantee that.

I THINK, S&C rifles are built after the war from parts. But I could easily be wrong.
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>>33037496
Buy the Sturmgewehr and shitpost in /brg/.

>>33037533
>grease is unreal.
That's hot.
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>>33037496

Same price? STGw 57.
It'll be more to shoot but it's way, way cooler.
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>>33037555

> THINK, S&C rifles are built after the war from parts. But I could easily be wrong.

from what I can tell they were made during world war 2. but honestly I'm still new to shooting but love the 1903A3 and want to add it to my collection.
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>want an m1 carbine
>see a universal for 600

is it worth? I keep hearing that universal is either crap or doesn't follow the original design.
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>>32997506
Taking this lady out for fun tomorrow.

Fucking hell I want more. Really would like to buy one of these >>33030159
. I don't really care what sub-model, as long as it's not sporterized.
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New gun how did I do
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>>33037837
>how did I do
Well what'd you pay for it faggot?
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>>33037950
600 at a gunshow, shits all matching
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>>33037837

>jungle carbine
>600
>all matching

average I think.
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>>33037837
Is it real or just one the copies?
Hard to tell with just a potato pic.
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>>33012385
>tfw nearest gunsmith is an hour away anyway
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>no m48 love
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>>33037823
The Mk 1/2, 1/3, and 2 have the trigger hung from the receiver. This gives you a better trigger pull vs the trigger guard mounted trigger on the Mk1 and Mk1*.
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>buy a gun
>get the gun
>haven't even shot the fucking thing
>within an hour looking for more guns to buy
>this never ending cycle of wanting more guns
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>>33039281
tfw 6 guns purchased in the past 7 months that I haven't even taken to the range yet even tho I have ammo
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Anyone ever used a heat gun/hair dryer to decosmo a stock? How did it work. Are there better options?
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are universal carbines worth 500 bucks?

or should I spend the big bucks for a standard m1 carbine?
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Minty Israeli K98k built on a BYF 43 reciever. Shes a beaut.
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>>33041077
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Where can I still buy some Yugo 8mm ammo?
Got my M48 Mauser the other month but never shoot it as the only ammo locally is $1+/ round.

Also, when shooting the cheap steel cased ammo the bolt gets near impossible to pull open. Its as clean as I can get, any suggestions?
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>>33041214

go to every gun store possible and look for military surplus ammunition.

you can always try cabelas online. seems like 8mm mauser with non-corrosive is 18-19 bucks for them.

>want to shoot fun historical guns
>either buy cheap corrosive as fuck ammo
>or buy expensive non corrosive ammo

I went full retard and bought .303 british from big 5 sporting goods. lost 40 bucks for 20 rounds because of that.
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>>33041077
>>33041095
Gorgeous. I love the Israeli bayonet too.

>>33041214
>Where can I still buy some Yugo 8mm ammo?
Right now there's no-one online who has Yugo M49 or M75. Just order some PPU; even after shipping it's still cheaper than $1.00/rd.

>when shooting the cheap steel cased ammo the bolt gets near impossible to pull open. Its as clean as I can get, any suggestions?
Is it that new Romanian stuff? It's shit; that's why it sticks. "Non-WW2 dimensions" my ass.
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>>33041253
How did you manage to get 20 rounds for $40? Was it gold plated?
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>>33041253
I'll check out some of the smaller gun stores / pawn shops tomorrow then, thanks!

>>33041307
I was just looking at some of the ppu ammo on gunbot, and its with the hotshot steel cased ammo from cabelas that my gun doesn't like.
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>>33041318

it's big 5. they don't stock .303 or 8mm mauser. both were 39.99.

I felt bad for the counter guy because I kept asking him questions so I bought the ammo knowing it was double the price.

I went to cabelas and bought .303 FMJ for 17 bucks or something.
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>>33041341
>its with the hotshot steel cased ammo from cabelas that my gun doesn't like.
Because it's out-of-spec. Look at the Q&A section for it on Sportsman's Guide; it's hilarious.
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>>33041394
Ahh.
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>>33041421
ahh, so I don't want the post war sized bullets?
Makes sense I guess
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>>33041624
>I don't want the post war sized bullets?
There's no such thing; they fucked up the sizing of the cases and are just trying to make excuses. Without gommunism to keep the Gypsies in line Romania has gone to shit.
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I can't call a K31 a marksman rifle, or a battle rifle, what's a cool-ass designation I can call it if not those?
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>>33041849

a fucking bolt action rifle you cuck
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>>33041849
A service rifle.

And infantry rifle.

Your mother's lover.
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What's a 1943 m44 trials rifle worth these days?
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>>33041849
A Match-grade Paper destroyer
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>>33042163
$250-350?
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I have a sporterized Type 38, Want to re chamber it in something. What should that round be?
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>>33042954
whatever you want for blowing off your head
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>>33043039
Its already sporterized faggot
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>>33042954
6.5-257
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tell me /k/ im going to a gun show with some friends next weekend. my one friend who was at the same one last year said they had all sorts of milsurp stuff priced cheap including mannlichers (he bought one for 100 in good condition with a bayonette)

what are some average prices to pay on milsurp rifles like mausers, enfields, mosins, etc. i know nothing about military surplus rifles and want to snag a few
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>>33043131
Just some ballparks for you.
Mosins
91-30s are going to be around 2-300 from fair to bullshit pricing.
M44s will be 300-400
M39s will probably be 350-700 depending on a lot of factors.
M48 Mausers 250-400
K98 Russian captures(non-matching, import mark and possibly an X marking and number stamped on left of stock butt) are becoming absurd at 600-900. They're hardly worth the lower end. Yugo captures with the yugo crest and all markings scrubbed otherwise are cheaper.
All matching with no import will be 900-3k depending. Don't go for these unless you know your shit. Don't even consider a german K98 with a white bolt.
Czech Mausers can be had cheaper as well as FN Mausers.

I don't know a lot about enfields.
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I got this at a gun show today for $370. Did I do well?
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>>33043277
Does it shoot Balle N or Balle D?
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So I bought a 91/59 Mosin the other day from a local gun shop for $330, only negatives were that the stock had some minor bumps and damage, but no cracks or anything. Either way after shooting it I'm happy with the rifle, but did I overpay or is that a decent price?
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$250 good grade Beretta 92s.
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>>33043277
>$370. Did I do well?
IDK shit about frog fusils; that's nice M16 tho even looking all beat-up.

>>33043355
>did I overpay or is that a decent price?
People pay a lot for M91/59s; I think you did fine.
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>>33043388
Barrel
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>>33043302
Is the chamber and barrel stamped like this? If so, it was converted for the M1932N cartridge.
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Guys, do i put oil in the inside of my mosin barrel? like, do i get some oil on a patch and then put it up the barrel, then take a couple dry patches through there?
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>>33043388
round trigger guards make me wanna puke. having ruger fud flashbacks hold on
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>>33043271
the m39 is the fin remade mosin right?

and thanks for all of the info anon i appreciate it
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>>33043355
Pic related is the rifle I was referring to
>>33043395
Yeah I saw some online for sale for ~$400 but figured that was people just trying to jew out for as much money as possible.
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>>33043472
There's a circled N stamped on the barrel shank under the handguard, so yes I guess
>>33043395
Thanks, barrel is pitted to hell underneath the stock (seems like nearly WW1 era rifle has this problem desu) but I'm confident it'll shoot well.
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>>33037496
where the hell can you even get those?
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>>33039281
Hello friend
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>>33043271
>All matching with no import will be 900-3k depending. Don't go for these unless you know your shit. Don't even consider a german K98 with a white bolt.

Other guy here trying to learn about mausers before I buy one. What makes a white bolt Mauser bad? Are they just obvious fakes or something?
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>>33044248
>What makes a white bolt Mauser bad?
All German Kar.98k rifles had their bolts either blued or phosphated at the factory; they should never be in-the-white.
>Are they just obvious fakes or something?
It's a big warning that the rifle you're looking at is not in original condition.




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