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/meg/ Military Enlistment General

Mi General Edition

>Discord
https://discord.gg/0y3eBT2ji4rHI4TM
>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.

Resources:

>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.

>http://www.sealswcc.com/
SEAL/SWCC site with videos and fitness plans and a forum

>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.

>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.

>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.

>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.

>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.

>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.

>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well

Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga

Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/4671253
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First for: Don't do it kid. Trust me.
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What's the best length for an infantry contract?
Five years seems too much in case I hate it.
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>>33006064
well im not infantry so i wouldnt be able to give you an accurate answer, but i like my 4+4 contract. anything else seemed too long or too short, although i reenlisted so im in for it now
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>Want to do 3 different career fields
>Intel/Counterintel, then SOF, and then Combat Pilot
>Realize that it's going to take enlisting in one service, switching services to a different career field, then Commissioning as a pilot
>It will take 20 years and a mountain of paperwork, but it's possible

My special snowflake dreams are possible, but the military will take its pound of flesh desu~
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I was reading a bit of the leatherneck forum, and marines were saying you can go any MOS and apply for MARSOC later assuming you meet the standards to get reclassed into an operator.

What's a good strategy for going MARSOC later down the line that will maximize my skill set? What MOS is elder-god tier in the marines?
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>>33006121
>all that coolguy stuff
You and everybody else buddy, believe me.

I say just go tunnel vision towards one specific goal, and do it as soon as possible. I made the mistake of committing to finishing my bachelors at a snail's pace - now I'm almost mid 20s and getting older is not good for any of those coolguy gigs.
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>>33006132
>muhreens
>the few, the proud, the dead on the beach
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High functioning, employed, friend having, autist wanting to join.

Does anyone have a source on a list of disabilites that would get you banned from service?
All I found was: http://army.com/info/usa/disqualifiers
And nothing about any psych disability like autism, OCD, exc.

Also it lists
>Sexual perversion
as a disqualifier.
And yet you are allowing transgenders in.
Fucking kek.
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>>33006151

I'm joining in a couple of months and going all in to knock the first one out. After I'm done with four years of that I'll jump in with both feet on the second one.
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A finnish anon in the other thread was talking about Finland's "Sissi" unit and that seemed pretty cool.
What other military units around the world are trained in guerilla warfare, sabotage, hit and run, that kind of stuff? Aside from SOF, of course
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>>33006181
Maglan
God
Damned
Maglan
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>>33006200
But that's spooky recon exactly like what ISA does, it's not really gorilla warfare.
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>>33006162
just call a recruiter in a different state and ask if they'll waiver you
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>tfw GPA is shit
>tfw chances are can't go OCS
>tfw getting into law school with me being URM or becoming an Orthodox Priest having better chances than being an officer
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>>33006029

26 year old here, don't have a job and still in community college.

What is the minimum asvab that I can get for some decent jobs in the airforce?
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>>33006121
>Realize that it's going to take enlisting in one service, switching services to a different career field, then Commissioning as a pilot

It's also going to take a shit load of luck to make the stars align.

Real life isn't GI Joe. Being trained and then getting enough experience in a career field to become an expert takes a lot of time.
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>>33006375
>>>/F/FL
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>>33006064
4 years.

Or be >>33006090 and give life advice from the comfort of mommy's basement.
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>>33006375
GPA is a meme fåm
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>>33006668
For the military or in general? You can't get a decent job in the private sector with a non-stem GPA <3.5
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>>33006668
Explain
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>>33006709
>Believing in the STEM and GPA meme
Good goy
>>33006713
Being black with a bachelors in Accounting helps for OCS, you?
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>>33006817
>stem meme
I don't think you know what that means, because nothing I said is jerking off to stem. Employers realize that stem are in general harder majors, so they don't have the same rigid GPA requirements as with non-stem. That's not buying into the stem meme, that's realizing the reality that employers buy into the stem meme. But I'm talking to a nigger so I might as well be typing this for nothing
t. business major
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Does Intel actually do cool shit or is that just a meme, i want to do navy CT if that matters
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>>33006817
If you mean race, then Native, if you mean degree, then Bachelor's in Computer science
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>>33006132

Read pic related if you want to learn more about MARSOC. There is very little info about them online for some reason so the book is a goldmine.

>TL;DR
Infantry. The elder god path IMO would be starting as 0341/51/52 then going 0317 in order to maximize training while you pick up rank. But seriously read it if you wanna go MARSOC.
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>>33006438
Shoot for 70+, shouldn't be too hard might want to brush up on basic math if you haven't used it in a while.
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I need a recruiter who will grease up the rails and get me a moral waiver. How to find?
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>>33007126
I'm a CTT, on a ship I mainly do threat recognition (see signal, is it a missile? No, okay is it a warship? No, okay. "Correlates COMNAV") shore side you deal with more actual intel and spend weeks figuring out about the signal and work with NSA or CIA.
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>>33007126
CTN is "leet hackerman" pretty cool res team blue team pen testing stuff. CTR track comms signals CTI is linguist but unless you're with muhreens as an interpreter you'll be on a shore site sifting through hours of chatter. CTM fix CTR equipment. That's it.
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>>33007428
Mention that you have friends that want to join as well
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>>33007428
what do you need a waiver for
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>>33007126

Intel shit is cool shit to intel nerds. The problem is that what intel nerds think is cool is vastly different than what everyone else thinks is cool.
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>>33006029
If my medical waiver gets denied, does that mean it's over? Can i retry in another branch?
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How do I take the ASVAB without a recruiter? 18 and trying to get into the chair force, but I want to really catch their attention even before my preu
-qualification
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>>33008176

You can't. Yes, that's by design.
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>>33008041
good question
bump
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I know this is a stupid question, but the only skills I have is being really great in political philosophy and humanities in general. Is there anything good for me?
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>>33006029
Do the different branches' Intelligence Officers/Specialists/Warrant Officers generally all do the same stuff? Or does each have different focuses/specialties/methods of collection etc?

What does Army Intel look like?
What does Navy Intel look like?
What does Air Force Intel look like?
What does Marine Corps Intel look like?
What does Coast Guard Intel look like?
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>>33008374

The military trains Intelligence Officers to be generalists while the civilian world trains specialists, but they have the option of specializing as long as they maintain certain general competencies. By the time they hit Staff Officer they are expected to transition toward more administration than being in the field.

Junior enlisted only do low-level analysis or collect technical forms of intel like SIGINT or MASINT. They do not do HUMINT source ops.

NCOs and Warrant Officers are specialists, usually in a form of collection. They have a longer window of doing specialized forms of collection but take as long as a decade cutting their teeth as junior enlisted to get to it.

All five branches have Special Agents that do Counterintelligence and some HUMINT. In the Air Force, Navy, and Coast Guard they pull double duty as Law Enforcement. The Army splits up Law Enforcement and Counterintelligence. The Marines have CI and HUMINT as part of the same program, but it's new and kind of wonky right now, and they leave LEO work to NCIS afaik.
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>>33008633
Thanks for the thorough response. What I dont understand, how exactly would Navy, Air Force or Coast Guard collect HUMINT? Like I cant imagine these guys going outside the wire meeting with sources very much... (especially the Navy... as they are probably on a ship most of the time...)

What I mean is, for the most part are most Intel officers in the military just relegated to sitting inside on base in front of a computer never really getting to go outside the wire or on some interesting operations?
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>>33008769

The same way anybody collects HUMINT. I mean fuck, do you think that Army or Marine guys go out to meet with and recruit sources while rolling with a couple of MRAPs and a squad 20 deep?

They are typically on a base or embassy disguised as civilians and are low key going in and out to meet with sources.

>Coast Guard

Their CI is the blackest of the black, and CI is already the blackest of the intelligence disciplines.
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>>33008801
... members of the military do that? Like go low vis and conduct intelligence ops and so forth? I thought that was something that the CIA or DIA does... not the Navy or Air Force. Interesting.

Is the Coast Guard thing a joke or not? I mean... I have heard varying things about the Coast Guard before... like some people seem to think they are actually really badass?
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>>33008855

The CIA and other civilian agencies are not very reliable in war zones because their people are used to working out of embassies. They don't like to stick their heads out of the wire, and the ones ballsy enough to actually do it tend to get blown up more often than your average Case Officer.

Keep in mind that people running around actually doing HUMINT or CI Force Protection have a higher casualty rate than Infantry.

>Is the Coast Guard thing a joke or not?

CGIS has all kinds of crazy powers under DHS and is not bound by posse comitatus. They are the spookiest of spook.
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>>33008903
Cant tell if trolling or not about the Coast Guard still....

So what do you think the career of an average Navy or Air Force Intelligence Officer would look like then?
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>>33008919

>Average

The average ones don't do HUMINT. HUMINT has to be specifically requested.
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>>33006151
Fug

I'm at that point, should I even start my bachelors, or just enlist now?

I want to go to a secondary school after the military which is what I want the GI Bill to take care of.
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Does the army offer 2 year enlistment on 11b or similar active duty infantry mos's?
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How douchey is it for someone going into the army to wear a Marines hat? I am going into Army ROTC sophomore year of college(I'm a HS senior right now) so that I have a chance at going to rasp, but I got a USMC hat from the recruiters' pullup competition thing they do, and I need a hat to wear while I grow out my hair. Which also brings me to my next question, can I keep long hair in ROTC?
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Guys I ship off tuesday next week for basic training. How fucked am I?
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>>33008373
Try working out and then you will have more useful skills, meaning endurance and strength. I used to be like you, but I burnt out of political philosophy and just read /lit/ stuff for a long time. Since I assume you probably read a lot, try reading books about other, more practical stuff. Get a good survival guide and read it, then go solo /out/. Get a book on woodworking and then build shit, or a cookbook and cook shit. Philosophy is useful in running your own life, but unless you want to be a meme Lord homeless cynic, get some practical skills under your belt. Then, you will be able to generally do whatever you want in the military.
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>>33007398

sounds good. I took the ASVAB probably 5 or 6 years ago and I got a 76 . Im confident I can get something close because Im taking an intermediate algebra class
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One of my recruiter is a 5'6 manlet 11b who thinks his shit dont stink. Always funny to see him get angry.
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Hey /meg/, I've got a couple years before I enlist (finishing up a degree) and I want to try out for the Rangers when I go in.

I saw a thread on /fit/ that said that if you want to get into the required shape that all you need is this book and a separate program for running and swimming.

Occasionally someone on /fit/ knows what they are talking about but way too much of it is 300+ pound NEETs who have never exercised in their lives spouting memes and broscience, so I'd figure I’d get a second opinion here.

Is The Naked Warrior + separate swimming/running programs a good approach to get into the required shape, or am I being memed? Everywhere I look online it seems like half on the internet loves this book and the other half hates it. Would I be better off focusing more specifically on push-ups/sit ups?
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Which branches are the most/least weeb friendly?
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>>33008979
Up to you.

I'm in a rough spot, as I am just about to transfer from a CC, meaning 2-3 more years at uni. If I abandon my post now, the past few years would have been a complete waste, with nothing to show for it.

So I'm toughing it out, but working out lifting 3 times a week, cardio on off days.

I'll be ready when I graduate, that's for sure. Except I'm going to be a little older (~27) and that could be annoying as a boot.
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Just found out I'm clear to enlist. My previous MEPS paperwork finally came back after getting temporarily med DQ'd and getting my option 40 dropped 4 years ago.

>what are good Navy reserve ratings that relate to mariner skills?
>can I get selected to become a diver while in boot or AIT?

Currently on my way to become a commercial diver.
I'm looking to get into hands-on ratings that help my present situation as a sailor, and future mariner and diver skills.
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Am I retarded for getting a 99 asvab and still going Marine Infantry?
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I'm going to leave soon as a corpsman in the Navy. It's my understanding that you can choose a specialization of some sort to study or practice within the realm of medicine i.e urologist, radiologist, shit like that if I remember correctly.

So my question is, which path would be best to choose, and do you think FMF corpsman is a decent alternative?
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Anyone know anything about the Texas ANG? I'm prior service but I'd like to go back in part time. Any info would be appreciated, looking for 19D contract.
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>>33007241
I ordered it, better be good.

I'ma hold you accountable!!!
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So I took an 11x option 40. I scored intentionally low on the asvab to make sure I got 11b instead of 11c. I scored a 61 by guessing most of the math questions.

Did I do good?
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>>33012013

You're retarded for going Marine, ASVAB is irrelevant.
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>>33012437
>I scored intentionally low on the asvab to make sure I got 11b instead of 11c.
Riiiiiiiiiiight...

Wait, this is a thing?
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>>33012478
Higher asvab gets the 11c priority. 11c is dependent on a high math score.
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>>33008176
Are you a sperg? You don't have to impress recruiters it's not a job interview. Walk in, ask them about scheduling an ASVAB take it and they'll see what you qualify for.
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Ausfags, who here goes to Kapooka on the 13th?
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>>33012689
Of March*
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>>33008855
CG is a meme, their rescue swimmers are pretty cool, but if they actually need to do anything they go out on Navy ships or are transfered to Navy commands, DOG used to do some bad ass stuff early 2000s but that unit was dissolved.
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>>33012065
FMF is cool if you want infantry life without being infantry. The specializations depend on the command you go to, so a naval hospital might need x-ray techs and send you back to school.
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>>33006029
>>IRC Channel
>>implying anyone uses IRC
>#MEG on Freenode
>If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
>Resources:
natty guard here looking for advice. Should I go to college or just go active? keep in mind I have no intentions of getting married so I would be living in barracks.
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>>33007241
there is such little info online because u have to sign a disclosure saying you wont talk about the training or selection program
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>>33012013
Is it what you want to do AND do you intend for your enlistment to be only one or two terms? If the answers is yes and you're smart and can do an in-demand, well paying-job later then not necessarily. Plenty of people join the military just for the experience and if that's the case then you should do whatever you feel will help you get the most out of it. Go in, get a degree when you get out, and start your real career (the quicker the better).

Now, if you're smart and you want to make an entire career out of the military then yeah, you might be retarded. Do something where you can put those brains to work for Uncle Sam and build up experience that will translate into a job in the civilian world (this does not include infantry or immediate variants like Recon unless you are an officer and can claim "Leadership Experience"). Even Marines have jobs like this. Cross train later if you're already locked into infantry for now.
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>>33006063
what a terrible way to start this thread
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Do cadet get job specific training after being commissioned?

I would not think it's literally "Ok you got your arts degree, now your in charge of these tanks. Good luck."
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>>33010251
Not the best book in the world. Check out Tactical Barbell 1+2. They're written for military folk and they're pretty cheap.

If you got the cash then shell out for a Military Athlete program.

Navy Special Warfare Physical Training Guide is pretty good too, but it can be a bit tricky to follow if you haven't been active in awhile.
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>>33014111
Thanks man. I appreciate the help.
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>>33012709

DOG is still active.
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I guess I'll post this here; it seems tangentially related. Made a thread but no replies.
I don't know if I'm fucked or not.

I got separated from the Navy a ways back under erroneous enlistment. My re-entry code was RE3E, which means ineligible without a waiver.

Fast forward a few years after deciding not to pursue the military, and I wanted to get into police work. One of the pre-reqs is must be eligible for reenlistment if you have prior military service (how depressingly funny that if I hadn't tried to enlist at all, this problem would not exist). A recruiting officer at my local PD said I would need to get that navy waiver before I'd be considered for the police.

What are my chances of getting a waiver from the Navy for me to pursue a career that has nothing to do with the Navy? And how would I begin the process?
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>>33013878
Wouldlike to know this as well. Currently getting a bachelors in Computer Science.
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>>33014936
>>33013878

Are you guys really asking if the military will train you because you don't have prior experience with tanks?
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>>33006151
At what snail's pace m8?

>>33008979
I'm doing what this anon is doing (bachelor's at 25, 4 years of grad school for Mech engineer)

Going to sign up for option 18x
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>>33009427
dude lmao buy a cheap ass baseball hat. also, cut your hair. ROTC can not and will not take you seriously with long hair and you'll be the odd man out for the wrong reasons.
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I'm doing six pull ups on a good day right now
I need to be able to do fifteen or more by next month
Is this an achievable goal?
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>>33014339
No, unfortunately it is not. They were the unsung bad asses of CG, like PJs and CCT.
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>>33014474
Honestly talk to the local recruiter they'll probably ask you about the specifics and determine if they want to based on how bad it was. If you stood up during the moment of truth in boot camp to tell theme you smoked weed once when you were 15 they'd likely be pretty understanding.
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>tfw you cuck your recruiter by leaving dep and joining the branch located next door
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>>33006029
11x, March 13th

pretty skinny guy, any advice on surviving rucks?
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Going 18x with no concern about the suck, I was born into the suck.

I am concerned however about fitness, im pretty ottermode now but a little out of shape how much would you say i should exercise in the next 3 years?
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>>33016214
>three years

Is enough time to physically prepare for anything.

Get on a marathon training program. You will piss the phys at that point.
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>Pentagon is finally recommending we move into Syria
>get call from recruiter
>they denied my packet for sleep apnea again
>have to get a sleep analysis done to show I don't have that shit anymore
>only sleep center is an hour away, and they don't have an opening until the end of March

It's been almost a year. I'm going fucking insane.
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>>33016233
How often would I have to work out considering I normally work out for 5 minutes of weight training and 20 minutes running daily?
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>>33015713

I double checked. You're right, it's just that some of the units that comprised DOG still exist while the rest were dissolved.
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Do I have to get a waiver if I was on SNRIs for >6mos? Technically they aren't "antidepressants" since they're prescribed for pain
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>>33016413
You should be running 30 miles a week at a minimum.

It really should be higher, though. If you have three years to prepare for something there's no excuse not to get marathon level fit.
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>>33016767
Likely yes.
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>>33016865
ree.

Will it be easier for me to get a waiver if I score high on the ASVAB? I hate to play the "but HE got..." game, but I have a friend from HS who not only was on antidepressants, but had a pot possession charge (misdemeanor), and a torn ACL (back in HS) on his medical record...but he was still able to enlist Navy as helo mech. So I figure "hey I might as well try enlisting"

>tl;dr: do I have gudder chance of getting a waiver if I score high?
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Is it possible to go to OCS and be a tranny?
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>>33017000
i hope not
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>>33011845
what did you get med DQd for?
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>>33017000
As long as you have a girly little ass everyone can take turns fucking in the broom closet in between classes.
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>>33017212
>>33017243
I mean like, will you actually be allowed to go or will the military find a way to tell you to fuck off ?
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>>33017000
I'd like to think the military isn't giving out commissions to the mentally ill.
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>>33006121
You could probably go from intel to sof pretty easy but switching to pilot from that is probably impossible because you'd be to old
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>>33009514
If you're as big an attention whore in basic as you are here then pretty fucked
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>>33017000
Yes, you must be stable in your 'new gender' for 18 months and have a psychiatrist sign off.
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Please notice me, senpais


>>33016891
>>33016891
>>33016891
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>>33017457
fucking hell I hope Trump fucking bans this shit
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>>33017507
what is wrong with trans people in the military if they do their jobs competently ?

hardmode: you can't respond with "i don't like them" or "muh mental illness"
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>>33017561
They are never held to the same standard because >muh discrimination
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>>33017561
>hardmode: you can't call them mentally ill even though that's what they are
really gets those synapses flaring up
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>>33017498
>>33016891
>Will it be easier for me to get a waiver if I score high on the ASVAB?
Short answer: yes. If it gets to the approving authority, it will depend on his/her subjective judgement based on the "whole person" concept, usually determined in an interview. There are guidelines and regulations that may stop it before it gets to that point, however.
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Alright, I want to join the navy because A) I want to travel around the world and experience life at sea and B) I am a repressed homosexual. I am already going to school for CompE in a few months on a hefty scholarship, so I figure I might as well do ROTC instead of just enlisting afterwards. I know it would probably make sense to choose an MOS close to my degree, but I don't give that much of a shit about CompE, I want to travel the world and be at sea. I really don't know how ROTC works, but I do know it makes you an officer, so what MOS should I choose to travel and be at sea?

pls help
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>>33016294
If it gets denied, you may be able to try again in six months. Don't give up.
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>>33016063
Always keep pace. Try to make long, quick strides, do not fall behind, and do not slinky that shit. Learn how to properly pack, adjust, and wear a rucksack.
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I forgot something related to some minor mental health stuff on the sf-86 and I need a TS clearance. I plan on telling the investigator because if you're honest it's better. But if I tell them will I get kicked out for fraudulent enlistment?
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>>33015001
>At what snail's pace m8?
~5 years on off just to get ready to transfer for EE

>Going to sign up for option 18x
Good luck, hopefully by then things change somehow. I've read a lot of discerning stories about 18x; it used to be that if you don't get selected, you end up at the 82nd airborne. But now they just send you to needs of the army - Fuck that shit!
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>>33017238
tachycardia and high BP.
I had a cold and took a sudafed before going it. Jacked my shit up.
I didn't enlist when my contract got dropped, due to medical waiver.

Just came back from the recruiter's office. I just need to get my heart rate done 3 days in a row, re-take the asvab, then swear in.
Thank fucking god I don't have to go completely through MEPS a 2nd time.

>Good Navy reserve ratings to get into?
>Can I get picked up to become a diver while in boot or AIT?
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>>33017852
I have a question along the same lines, but it is for minor misconduct (weed) and a Secret clearance.
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>>33010251

for fitness programs check out https://www.reddit.com/r/navyseals/comments/3s5lep/compiled_exercise_programs/

Your welcome
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Can anyone help me understand what exactly a Hospital Corpsman is supposed to be in the Navy?

I'm a registered EMT-B and I have been wanting to join the Navy, but when I look into Corpsman the job description seems to be very vague. The job description seems to be anything from a errand boy for a hospital all the way to being attached to SEAL units. Anyone have any experience to help me understand how this shit works and what to expect?
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>>33008041
>>33008196
plz help
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>tfw want to experience real combat once in my useless life
>tfw want to learn how to fight
>tfw too much of a pussy to ever enlist and commit four years of my life to something I'd probably end up hating

Maybe I'll finally kill myself this year.
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>>33019452
why was it denied?
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>>33019476
join the National Guard or Reserves
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>>33019232
That's exactly what it is, depending on luck/drive/pure fucking magic you could either stick recruits with vaccines at Great Lakes or be a bad ass operator tier front line medic. It's mostly just a gamble with orders
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>>33019654
So is there no real way to influence what you do? You just get slapped with a job that best suits the Navy's need in the moment?
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>>33016891
Adding to what this guy said, how likely am I to get caught if I took prescription meds for over 6 months and lie about it to MEPs? FAQ says not to say anything if it's broken bones/weed smoking because "they would never find out," but medical records are a paper trial, right? As long as I never get looked into for Top Secret or above, will anyone even care?
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How hard is it to get a 31K contract? And can anyone with more knowledge on the MOS tell me more about it?
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>>33008041
Medical waivers are branch-specific. If then Navy turns you down you can try your luck in the Army and so on.

How picky services are depends on how big they are compared to how many people want to join. In terms of pickiness (from most to least) it basically goes

Coast Guard > Air Force > Marines > Navy > Army

Certain branches also treat different conditions with different severity. CG has shellfish allergies as a non-waiverable condition, and the Marines approve basically no mental health waivers. Army would care a lot less about both.

How many waivers are granted is also inseparably tied to the recruiting environment. A bad economy causes people to flock to the military, meaning recruiters can be a lot more choosy about who gets let in. Coming off of the Obama years, with a bad economy and big military downsizing, waivers were not impossible to get but basically the next closest thing. As Trump expands the military and hopefully the economy improves your chances for getting a waiver granted in a different branch may improve. I'd recommend waiting until big military expansions hit and working on PT and ASVAB scores in the meantime so you look as appealing as possible. Also, for taking medicine the more years you have between being off of it and your application the better, so you may want to wait a few years if that was an issue (once you start getting to 3 or 4 years since your last dose that effect starts to diminish though).
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I'm trying to open an IRA and they want my employer's address, what the fuck should I put for the Navy?
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I just got an email saying I've been approved for further processing
I am very happy now
I have been waiting for this for almost a year
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>>33012500
Wait shit, really? I got a 75 on the ASVAB and I'm going 11b in the NG... does it help I'm shit at math and probably scored low on that portion?
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>>33016214

Godspeed Anon, that's what I want to do when I'm done school.

I'll have a degree and foreign language experience, I won't settle for anything less
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>>33006709
>You can't get a decent job in the private sector with a non-stem GPA <3.5

Once you get your first post college job nobody gives a fuck about GPA. You don't put your GPA on your resume after that.
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>>33008176
>How do I take the ASVAB without a recruiter?
When I was in high school it was offered for students. I took it twice before I even talked to a recruiter.
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>>33008633
>Junior enlisted only do low-level analysis

As a junior enlisted I was the primary analyst for Baghdad city on my team. I also wrote white papers and produced products on regional topics. More than one of the products I created made it up to the Joint Chiefs.
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>>33008903
>because their people are used to working out of embassies.

Except for all the non official covers.
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>>33013878
>I would not think it's literally "Ok you got your arts degree, now your in charge of these tanks. Good luck."

That's literally what it is. Hope you brushed up on that Abrams TM and that armor FM.
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>>33020696

Ignore that other anon. He's a neverjoined who thinks all the HUMINT is done by Air Force LTs.
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I want to go out to sea. I have almost a full tuition(and then some) scholarship to a good state college for Computer Engineering, but I really want to go to fucking sea. I am thinking about becoming a Navy Electronics Technician. Is this wise? I have 7 months until college starts so I need to choose soon. I can always go to school when I get back. What are my chances of going to sea as an Electronics Technician, btw?
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>>33017673
You don't get to choose MOS as an officer
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>>33020278
Just put the pentagon's address lol

Or wherever you're stationed
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How long did it take for you to get fit enough to enlist?

Iv been training hard the past 2 weeks and i'm seeing no progress. Feels bad.
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Do people actually change (mentally) in basic or do they just put on an act in front of superiors
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>>33009034
Halp.

Also this.
>>33022329
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>>33006029
If I had Asthma when I was around 8 is that able to disqualify me from Army Infantry? Also, does laser eye surgery disqualify me?
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>>33022288
>training hard the past 2 weeks and i'm seeing no progress
>thinking you'll see results after 14 fucking days

never gonna make it
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>>33022288
It should take you at least 1-2 months to get fit enough to barely pass the physical. 3-4 months to do even better, and you should continuously have a training regimen and diet plan which is consistent because my assumption is that you have been doing exercises for 2 weeks straight with no rest days and I can't guess as to what your diet is but you should improve it anyway.
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>>33021147
>He's a neverjoined

I wish people who were never in wouldn't give kids job advice here. It's retarded. It's literally worse than talking to a recruiter who hasn't ever held the MOS you want, at least they've actually been in the military.
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>>33022288
>How long did it take for you to get fit enough to enlist?
I enlisted right out of high school. Before that I had wrestled four years varsity.
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>>33022526
thank you
>>33022575
>It should take you at least 1-2 months
ok then i'l keep at it.
Im use to instant gratification but that will just have to change.
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>>33022708
If you're used to instant gratification the army is going to take what you're used to and prolapse it.
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>>33022869
>If you're used to instant gratification the army is going to take what you're used to and prolapse it.
Thats kind of what im hoping for.
Im not happy with what iv become and I want to turn my life around
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Anybody who took the c-sort care to chime in on how it's setup? Like is it in the ballpark of those online personality tests or does it give a situation then you answer or is it an entirely different beast all together?
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>>33006121
>do intel
>realise it's boring shit
>put in request to transfer
>"no"
>dreams crushed

what would you do? they don't have to approve you a transfer
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>>33006029
Get ready for lots of laughs friends.

I'm a tranny, started before all this sjw horseshit back when I was 13. I've been living as a woman for a long time now, and pass well.

And here's the kicker, I'm planning on joining the Air Force.

*insert jokes about the air force being full of pussy faggots here*

The process is a bitch though. Currently they only have rules for people transitioning while already in the air force, not for people joining. Thanks to some really fucked up laws, my birthstate won't change my birth certificate no matter what I do. So right now it's all up in the air whether or not I can even be accepted, but I've been actively talking with my recruiter about what's gonna happen.

Why join the Air Force? Well for one I want a comfy office job or something mechanical in nature. I'd love to learn how to fix planes or some cool hands-on shit like that. I scored pretty high on the practice ASVAB so my hopes are high. Second off, it's a no brainer economically. Give me a better deal than 20-30k a year, subsidized living quarters, free food, and a college education. I don't spend my money on a lot so I'm thinking I'll save up most of it and in 4 years time, assuming god emperor donald trump doesn't send me to die, I'll have enough money to go live abroad for a bit, visit places I've always wanted to.

Am I stupid as fuck for thinking I'll integrate well in the Air Force? Am I joining for the wrong reasons? Like I love my country and everything, and I fucking hate commies and those who would tread on freedom. But I'm mostly just joining because I want a good blue-collar job.
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>>33015036
pls respond
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>>33019701
Yes. "The Needs of the Navy" is something you'll hear a LOT while in.
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>>33020278
Ask your yeoman
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>>33021549
There are a few different kinds of ET, and all the ones I know of go to sea.
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>>33006121

I've seenen people try this "everything in one career" shit in real life.

You think you're going to be a rockstar action hero, but when you jump specialties that much everyone just thinks you're incompetent. You never stick to anything long enough to get good. That's assuming you even make it into and through all those pipelines.
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>>33023417
Worth a shot I guess, lol
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I want to join the Air Force, and I've only recently started working on my NEET skeleton body. Really want to get in shape enough to join but don't feel like I can ever get healthy enough to serve. Won't stop me from trying though. feelsbadman.jpg
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>>33020237
>once you start getting to 3 or 4 years since your last dose that effect starts to diminish though
What do you mean by this?
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>>33018550
Case by case basis. You'd have to tell them what happened and why you won't smoke anymore.
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>>33021549
Only problem is you don't get a choice between ET or FC, you'll still work on electronics but you might do radars or CIWS.
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>>33015036
If your spend about 45 min a day, 5 days a week doing pull ups you could probably.
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>>33024345
Just doing pull ups as much as possible? I shouldn't follow some sort of program or routine?
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>>33021549
>>33024331
Could always go Aviation Electronics Tech. Big change up there is whether you get O or I level (both change out all the time and do each others jobs).

I think it just carries over a bit better to civilian market than straight ET work.
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>>33024414

That would be retarded, don't listen to that guy. There's a reason the Bigger, Faster, Stronger program is used for pretty much every high school football team in the nation. Look it up and incorporate the PE tests into your weekly routine. Run on off-days or on the opposite end of your lifting days (run mornings, lift evenings or vice versa)
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>>33024511
>Bigger, Faster, Stronger program
I don't even lift, I just do bodyweight exercises and cardio. I don't really care about becoming strong or /fit/, I just want to get better at pull ups.
Should I still look into that program?
Is Armstrong's pull up program any good?
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>>33024511

Alternatively, if you're generally in shape except your pullup game is weak, go rock climbing. I have a BMI of 29 and like +20% bodyfat, but I can still do weighted pullups for reps. I attribute that to rock climbing (on top of normal pullups when lifting)
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>>33024531

that's indoor climbing at a wall, to clarify.
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>>33017953
>Gather intel, drive tacks into skulls, blow up bridges all the while screwing questionably aged peshmerga chicks.
>spend another 4 years as a cook

Motivation enough

Good luck to you Mein freund.
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>>33024511
>doing the exercise he's trying to get better at by doing said exercise...
>retarded
"Oh you're trying to train for a 5k run? You should swim, they're both cardio!" vs "try running more."
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>>33015036
But regardless, 1 month is plenty of time to add 10 pullups if you actually try. Do you have a pull up bar at home? I'd suggest doing sets of wide grip then close grip and alternate.
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>>33024998
Yeah I have a bar at home.
I was kinda disorganized up to now, I just did one max rep set every time I left/entered my room which ended up in me barely doing one rep by the end of the day. I'm not sure if that's very productive.
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>6 months on board
>LPO in TAD 3 weeks to alc class
>third class is in ship indoc for 2 weeks
>just me and one dumbass fireman doing all the maitenance and 3M workcenter admin
>senior chief perpetually asking us to do stupid shit
>made agreement with 3MC and XO to do at least 40 checks a week since previous WC leadership fucked our schedule
>SRF always hounding me to hang tags for WAFs

just kill me already senpai. i hope i get my STA-21 nomination and get the fuck out of here
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What should I do to prepare for joining the coast guard? Are there any specific excersizes I should do to train my body?
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>>33025180

asshole stretches t b h f a m
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>>33025180
If you're 18-20 have a sub 11:00 1.5mile
Do at least 45pushups in 2 min and 50 setups in 2 min.
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>>33025084
Oh God, which boat? I'm just wondering what platform doesn't have enough people in R-Div to cover two people out.
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>>33024990

45 minutes, 5x a week of pullups would destroy his arms. Even if that's just multiple sets with rest in between the fact that he's going at it 5 days in a row would mean he never recovers and makes little, if any, progress.
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>>33024293
In other words, once you've been off of your meds for several years a doctor is not going to be that much more impressed that you've been off of them for 10 years instead of 5. But 2 years is better than 1 and 3 is better than 2.
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Does anyone here struggle with their faith in the nation in some ways? It's one thing to be a soldier, and I love being a soldier. And it's easy to understand the mission when you have a good commander, but sometimes I wonder about the civilian leadership in this country. Is it wrong to doubt the reason behind the wars, and does it affect your morale? I hate ISIS; they are barbaric and I have no qualms about killing them, that's not a problem. But are we truly fighting in our own interests in a coherent and intelligent way, or are we fighting for the sake of it? That's a good reason and we need to maintain strength, but the cost is huge and our economy is bad. I also think Israel is a bad ally, so I question how destabilized the region is and how it affects our European allies. I want to serve my country and make her stronger, not weaker. Does anyone else think like this?
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>>33025557
>caring about why you fight
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>>33025377
Let's assume it takes maybe 5 min per set, 9 sets a day, 3 in morning 3 noon 3 evening for 3 days, then 2 rest then 2 on 2 rest and 3 on. It's not going to fucking destroy his arms. Do you actually work out at all or are you just recommending books?
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>>33025565
>this.
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>>33020662
But your first job out of college is practically entirely dependent on your gpa, and from there on out subsequent jobs are going to be based on the experience you've gained from your first job. A low gpa is going to set you back from the start.
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>>33025585

I haven't recommended a single book, faggot, the program is free to use. Hell, I don't even use that program but I know it's closer to what he might want than ruining his shoulders by doing what was originally suggested. You saying 45 minutes implies it's one workout session. If you meant he should spread it out over the course of a day then you should have said that initially.

Even after all that I'd still say some sort of general fitness program coupled with pullups and whatever else you need for the PT test would work better overall than just 9 sets of pullups for five days a week on top of his spooky skeleton bodyweight shit. Even better if he started rock climbing on an indoor wall but that would just be icing on the cake.
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>>33006709
Speaking from experience, this is a lie engineers tell themselves to feel better about their choices.
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>>33025712
It doesn't seem that way. All my engineering buddies are getting major-specific jobs with 3.1s and 3.2s. As an economics major, I'd be lucky to get a job as a social worker with a 3.2.
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>>33025657
>paying to rockclimb he wants to do better pull ups so he should do pull ups...he asked if it was possible to gain 10 pull ups in a month, yes it is and it's not too hard.
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>>33025557
>caring about his country
Lol, fuck this place.
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>>33025757
Political science/econ double major with a 3.1 here. Getting a decent job is about who you know and how personable you. GPA takes a back seat to these two. A good internship or favorable family connections will get you a lot farther than a >3.5 GPA. Most people just suck at networking and blame their majors/grades.
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>>33025818
>I major in both of those things
Anon...are you me? From the future?
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>>33025333

EE div. cruiser too
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>>33025557
>Actually caring about anything
>go away boot
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>>33025818

should have done math + econ
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>>33025936
Ops DDG, but when I went TAD to ER09 people covered for each other, HTs went to GSMs and helped, one team one fight.
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>>33025969

one team one fight but a qualified electrician is a unique thing. you can have a lot of ppl do a certain thing but qualified E's you are the ships bitch f a m.

heres to hoping my 85 credit, 1580 SAT and EP get me officer. I was supposed to be a nuke but ive heard so many horror stories it may have bee a blessing
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>>33026012
CE has helped EE, everyone can run tags and help with some checks.... if a division is hurting then why would CHENG not have people help? An EMFN and a GSE3 are not too dissimilar.
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>>33006029
What kind of deployment do PJs do? Will I be filling out paperwork 24/7 or actually do search and rescue.
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>>33025841
Nah I hate math, economics is tolerable because it uses math to explain stuff that I actually think is interesting. I start work as a junior research analyst at a think tank after I graduate this May but I want to eventually work for the State Department, hence the Political Science. I was originally going to commission in the Navy but was disenrolled from NROTC so now I collect guns and shit post on /k/ in my downtime
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>>33026090
Meant to reply to>>33025957

But yes, I am you from the future so listen to me carefully; don't eat those marshmellows at Dave's party. Just don't do it.
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Is enlisting in your late 20s a poor decision, in general?
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>>33025648
>But your first job out of college is practically entirely dependent on your gpa

Maybe if you did absolutely zero networking while you were in school and your interview skills and interpersonal skills are garbage and you did zero extracurricular activities and clubs related to your major and you didn't do any undergrad research.
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>Took asvab Wednesday
>Got a 32
J U S T
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>>33017298

I'll be right at the cutoff.

>>33024091

Then I guess I'll have to get good and prove it.
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>>33025084
PMS is a nightmare everywhere.
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>>33024132
AF and Navy PT standards are a joke. Just loose enough weight to so the recruiters will talk to you.
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>get shin splints
>stop running for three weeks
>start again without pushing too hard
>get shin splints again
Jesus fucking christ what the fuck am I supposed to do?
Applying cold and stretching and drinking more doesn't do shit
Help
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>>33018344
>Can I get picked up to become a diver while in boot or AIT?
No. Not at A-school either.
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>>33026794
How about not running heel to toe? Try the balls of your feet.
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>>33026827
I'm doing that already. I've tried running with my feet landing flat, I've tried running on the balls of my feet, it's the same thing.
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>>33006029
Guys I singed up for the Army, I swear in a second time this coming Tuesday and probably ship off that same day to basic. I'd like to know more about how I'm gonna be stationed and what it'll be like for my MOS.

I scored 85 on the ASVAB and chose 74 Delta, CBRN, for my job. I also got a bonus for the quick ship so now I'm just waiting to get up and go. I'm also confused on how my transfer from Georgia to Missouri will go down.

Can anyone tell me how the MOS will play out? My recruiter had it before he switched to recruiting.

>pic semi related
>It's how I'm feeling right now.
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>>33026794
You're running too slow. Run faster and you will naturally run with the balls of your feet. Try hill sprints to build strength and do jumping jacks for cardio as an alternative.
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>>33026845
>You're running too slow
I doubt it, but maybe you're right. I try to run as fast as possible without sprinting, the only time when I really slow down is by the end of the workout when I'm really worn out and can't keep up the pace.
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>>33014474
Your local PD is weird Most don't care.
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>>33012709
KYS. Other branches dumping on USCG is a meme and we don't actually mean it.
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>>33012065
You have some input on specialty but in the end its Needs of the Navy.
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>>33011341
AF or navy, but every branch is infested with weabos and furries and bronies.
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>>33025557
How > Why
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>>33026900
How's that? Got some experience?
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>>33007477
CTNs mostly do boring defensive network security - configuring firewalls and shit. There's also CTT.
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>>33026794
Do you happen to be a tall fag?

I'm 6 and half feet tall and I have the same issue. I am beginning the think it's because I don't have the proper bone density to support my long as fuck legs and it will take time before I can even push myself.

I would suggest getting yourself a really nice pair of running shoes. When I tried to initially start running I had some shitty shoes because I am cheap faggot, that in combination with me pushing my limits really hard I had some horrible shin splints for over almost 2 months. When I felt like I could start running again without literally snapping my shins, I went out and bought a 120 dollar pair of running shoes that felt significantly better. Ever since then I have been running with very little problems.
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>>33026914
Not (you) but I saw at least 10 people wearing Brony shirts in 'A' school. Nearly everyone was weebs and DnD/Video game geeks.
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>>33026937
Not at all, I'm only 5'10.

What shoes did you buy? I have Nike Lunarglides which are supposed to be good enough. I even bought insoles to cushion the shocks from hitting the pavement.
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>>33026794
Shin compression sleeves + Ibuprofin. Getting fitted for shoes at a real running shop may also help.
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>>33026991
>Shin compression sleeves
I got those
>Ibuprofin
Isn't that a temporary solution? I mean sure if it can stop the pain it's good but should I really take it regularly?
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>>33026946
Corry?
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>>33026950
I got a pair of Asics Gel-Cumulus 18's. I am by no means a running veteran nor am I a connoisseur in running shoes, but when I put them on my feet and walked around in them I knew I had the buy them.

My other suggestion is to also limit yourself. I know it might be tempting to push your limits for quicker progress, but if you are new to running it can screw you up really bad like it did with me. Gradually work yourself up so your body has plenty of time to adjust.
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>>33026995
IB mainly reduces inflamation. I'm sure it's not good to take much long term but everyone in the military takes high doses everyday for years.
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>>33027010
Thank you, I'll look into those.
>limit yourself
Yeah, I know. For how long have you been running now?
>>33027021
Huh, I'll try it out then. Thanks.
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>>33026950
Nike a shit. Asics, NB, or brooks are good.
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>>33027035
Can it really come only from the shoes?
Obviously the shoes are important but since I use insoles I shouldn't get shin splints just from that
I run on pavement/asphalt, maybe I should try something else?
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>>33027026
Well I have only been running about 2-3 times a week for 3 weeks since I finally got back into the groove of things. Every time I run I still have some slight pains in my shins, I make sure to ice them but more importantly I try to give them around 2 days to fully heal so that I don't cause any major issues. I have been noticing that the inflammation and pain have become a little bit more manageable now that I have started to run regularly, so hopefully this is a sign they disappear altogether at some point in the future.
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>>33027067
Ok. Yeah 2-3 times a week seems good enough.
Good luck m8, shin splints are annoying as fuck
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>>33026289
You could be president of every club at the university and the most charismatic guy at every event, won't mean shit the second you hand them your resume and they see you got a 2.5 majoring in basket weaving.

Also
>interview skills
Mean absolutely nothing if you can't even land an interview because your gpa is shit.
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>>33027003
Yep.CT and ITs are nerds.
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>>33026794
Stretch your achilles before and after you run faggot
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>>33027103
>implying I don't do that already
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>>33027105
And get some of those gel heel inserts
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>>33027114
Yeah I have those, the Scholl gel inserts or whatever they're called
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>>33027120
Then you probably just have really shitty form
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>>33027138
No, I run on the balls of my feet or at least try to land flatly instead of landing on the heel. idk maybe it's because it's the first time in my life that I'm trying to get in shape but I'm not overweight either
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>>33027145
Well, my proscription is threefold.
>Stretch
>Gel inserts
>Stop running like a retard
If you're doing those three things and still hurting, you should do those things some more.
t. 11 years of competitive running
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>>33027169
Maybe I'm not stretching correctly. What are the proper stretching exercises I should do?
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So if I have liberal arts fag degrees with a high GPA while being in great shape but I have a juvenile record for drinking, what are the chances of me being an officer?
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>>33026950
Try running on a gravel/sandy/dirt trail if you can. Your joints will thank you.
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>>33027175
Take your foot and rest the ball of your foot against a wall so that your foot is the slope of a triangle with the floor and wall. Then push your body towards the wall so that your shin is moving closer to the top of your foot. This should extend your achilles and you should feel it right in there. This worked for me when I got shin splints.
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>>33027169
I run a mile and a half every other day in sandals and I never get shin splints.
Gel inserts are for pussies.

What exactly is good running form?
I'm curious.
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>>33027103
Except stretching before working out is wrong. Proper warming up is what he needs.
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Hey, /meg/, I'm an active duty soldier serving in the US army in a recon unit (I'll withold particular information because it's pretty easy to determine which for those in the service right now, all I'll say is that we're not SOF).

My problem is that I made a mistake, I fucked up back in October of last year, I took a field grade level article 15 and what I did now still threatens me getting chaptered out of the army. It's nothing that deserved a other than honorable or dishonorable, the lowest I'll get is a general discharge.

The thing is, I've been fighting to keep in service and my command (all the way down to my squad NCO to all the way up to my First Sergeant and my company CO) has been vouching for me and sending recommendations up to the brigade to keep me in.

It doesn't seem like I'll leave but my situation has been flip flopping since November. I have a 127 GT score and my APFT regularly is 260-270, my highest was 281 (could have done better) and my lowest was 250. My first sergeant has pretty much given me an ultimatum; if I stay in I'll most likely never promote after E6, I'll never be able to get my security clearance (won't say which) back, and I'll never get to try out for Ranger bat or SF ever.

My question is; Do you think it is possible (or a good idea) for me to join the French Foreign Legion or the Novo Russian Foreign Legion if I get chaptered out of the army?
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>>33027282
>I don't get shinsplints
>gel inserts are for pussies

>My arms not broken
>casts are for pussies

>>33027365
He should do both. Not stretching before running is a good way to pull something.
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>>33027089
Damn it, I'm in DEP as CTR. I don't want to be surrounded by autists for 4 years.
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>>33027384
http://www.defencecareers.mil.nz/reenlist-overseas/overseas-applicants/eligibility
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>>33027227
Yeah I figured that would be better
>>33027248
Thanks
>>33027365
What kind of warming up?
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>>33027384
Jesus did you fuck the CO's wife or are they just that strict now? Would it help to change duty stations?
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>>33027384
Oh and some information. I was eligible for Ranger School and I was in a Ranger training program before I got I got lifted out. I was an airborne volunteer (4 jumps, got injured on my 4th) and I was a prior 18x contract before my injury. My overall ASVAB is 92%.

>>33027447
This seems very promising but I can't find any info on Commandos other than they're counter terror.

>>33027557
I don't wanna be specific in what I did. Had to do 45/45 days of restriction and extra duty over December-January for it. Let's just say fucking an officer's wife would have been easier on me. I've also been flagged (no positive action) for up to 12 months; no schools, no changing duty station (also I haven't been in that long, this is my first duty station).
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If I finish my degree while enlisted, what's the soonest I can put in a packet for OCS? Do I have to wait until my enlistment is up or can I finish up those years as an officer?
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>>33026844

One of the worst jobs in the Army. Nice going, anon.
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>>33027910
Why is it one of the worst?
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>>33028061
74Ds don't do anything and haven't for a long, long time. It's a meme MOS that gets a lot of people who think they're going to be doing something with science.

In reality, your only MOS-related duty is counting gasmasks, which really means you will spend 99.9999% of your career exclusively bitchwork doing jobs that nobody else wants to do.
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>>33028077
I am... way too OK with that. Good to know.
Thanks, man.
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>>33027568
It sounds like your CoC supports you. What is their recommendation?
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>>33026580

Wow, do you look stupid too?
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>>33028092
Well my troop is understaffed right now, we're going to deploy this year and they need retention. They're trying to convince they brigade to keep me because of my service, I haven't had a negative counseling since I been in and before my mistake, haven't done anything worthy of a reprimand.
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Forgot my CAC pin, will the RAPIDS staff laugh at me when I go to reset it?
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Just swore in and signed a six year contract
my MOS is 91B wheeled vehicle mechanic and my basic training in in july at fort Jackson in South Carolina. I drill in 2 weeks
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>>33028387
>6 year mechanic contract

why anon
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>Be in boot camp
>When DI's finally crawl out of our ass me and new boot buddies shoot some shit
>Jokingly say that one of the obstacles on the course makes me wanna kill myself
>Next day I get pulled aside
>Psychiatrist basically interrogates me
>Admit I said it but was only joking
>Get discharged quicker than I could possibly imagine

I'm still in disbelief. How often do fags try and commit sudoku in boot camp for them to have such a strong knee-jerk reaction like that?
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>>33006029
What is the life of an Army Artillery Officer like? Do they go to Ranger School?
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>>33029089
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>33029089
all officers in combat arms are expected to have some kind of tab if the wanna get promoted past captain
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>>33029140
>>33029121
What is the life of an Artillery Officer like in particular? Engineer?
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>>33027607

>tfw no answers
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>>33029067
God dam it thats fucked up.
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>>33028828
because I am 18 and will spend most of that time in college. Minnesota NG pays for all your tuition
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>>33025180
SWIM!
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>>33028268
They deal with that exact thing all day, don't sweat it
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>>33027607
You don't have to wait until your enlistment is up.
You can submit it right away.
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>>33030276

Thank you very much for the answer.

Follow up: will they let me hop career fields, or will they typically translate me from whatever I'm doing as an enlisted to being an officer in that field?
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>>33030288
There's a good chance they'll keep you in the same field if that's what you want, but it's not guaranteed by any means. And the inverse is true. You can choose a different field but they might decide to keep you in your old one.
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>>33030351

Makes sense. Thank you again.
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>>33030351
>There's a good chance they'll keep you in the same field if that's what you want

There really isn't, "prior experience" isn't on the OML. You can submit a 4187 for it though.
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How hard is it to go active from the reserves if you're in a critically manned field?
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How do i make a career out of the military? I dont know why i would get hired in any job knowing im just going to quit in 4 years
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>>33031459

> I dont know why i would get hired in any job knowing im just going to quit in 4 years

Hopping jobs every 2-4 years is pretty typical in the civilian world now too. It's not that you're quitting, it's that you're climbing the ladder up to a better position.

For most people, having a career in the military would be as easy as choosing to have one. The vast majority don't make that choice, because they don't enjoy it enough to do it for 20+ years.
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>>33023417
wanna fuck
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>>33032430
Look here you fucking spic, I dont "slip" at any point. Whenever I go out onto the street I have my gun locked and loaded. Nobody can surprise because I am constantly scoping out my surroundings, checking for shooting positions and escape routes. Some spanish speaking gang banger will stick out like a sore thumb to my eyes. I will have a bead on his fucking head before he turns the corner.
So no, not "Everybody is slippin at some point" you imbecile.
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>>33032819
i was there when that pasta was created
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>>33032830
>be tranny before all this sjw horseshit
>some fucking spic tries to "slip" with me
>mfw Nobody can surprise
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So question is there a list of pros and cons of joining each branch?
Like privileges, pay ranks, life styles, like when you get to move out of the dorms, and whether or not you get a room mate. Etc.
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>for months been have had to submit medical records and it keeps getting kicked back for some kind of new reason
>thinking of switching branches
>recruiter tells me I will have the same problems in other branches
>says all medical records go to all branches
Is this true?
Or if I go to a different branch it's a clean slate and I can say I'm perfectly fine with no past?

I don't even have medical problems, but they are literally making mountains out of mole hills for me.
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If there's nothing left for me in the States but I want to belong somewhere and do something with my life, should I join the FFL?
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I have heard you get your own room in every branch except the Marines.
Is this true?
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I know jack shit about the militrary except I can join in the military as
>E4 Army
>E3 Navy/Air Force
>E2 Marines

I'd make the most money with Army.
Is there a catch since Marines are so low? Do they rank up faster or something?
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>>33033691
Every weekend you get double exp
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>>33033365

No, because a lot of that depends more on job than branch.
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>>33028086

It's a badass MOS because you can go anywhere. Literally anywhere int he world because every unit has a NBC guy
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I have this dream of being in special forces for 20 or so years, saving money while I'm in, then retiring and buying some land, building a house and starting a family. Also I'm 24 years old, too old to be SF? Do you have to start young?

Of course all of this depends on the reality of such a plan and money earned and me surviving my service.

1. How much do operators ACTUALLY get paid?

2. What are career opportunities for operators with no college degree when they finish service?

3. Is this dream pants on head fucking retarded?
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>>33033691
Army advancement is fastest, USAF lowest.
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>>33033579
Fuck no.
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>>33036172
If you are seriously fit, look into special forces reserves. Or if you want, go full time Infantry and have at it. Up to you.

To make a 20 year career as an enlisted man you're starting a bit late. It's not unknown but it's rare.
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>>33033535
I doubt you're mentally fit for the FFL. Have you tried the US military?
>>33033402
Total BS standards are different for each branch.
>>33033365
AF is best (except they advance slower) if those are your priorities.
>>33028268
No. They are so lonely from sitting alone in a windowless office that they will try to be your best friend.
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>>33006029
>See OP's Pic
>Remember I come from a liberal state and all my old friends think I'm victim to some high level programing. Not in an honorable profession of leading young men into war.
>All these feels.

Liberals are the most sociopathic people I know.

It's not even 2:00pm. I didn't ask for these feels.
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>>33036716
Fuck them anon. You did something with your life instead of jacking off to problem glasses and sjw libcuck ideals like those faggots did
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>>33036172
>full time infantry

Pardon my limited knowledge. But do you mean making a career out of being an infantryman for as long as possible? I always thought infantry positions were for 4 years and then that's it. Would I advance to the point of being an instructor/drill sergeant or something?
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>>33036891
Fuck meant to reply to >>33036307




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