what does /k/ think about distributed lethality concept
Once again, capital ships have been made useless.
They should just buy Chinese
>>33367528How it should've been from the start.
Is it just a more offensive stance utilizing destroyers and smaller crafts?It's not the end of carriers by any means,Air dominance is why the US has the greatest military in the world.It makes sense for destroyers to be prepared for assaulting enemy craft, they are multi role vessels.But dismissing the power of mobile air wings in retarded.
>>33368747I think it's just buzzword shit that doesn't practically change anything.Some new integration of sensors, being able to fire at targets spotted by other units, and putting VLS on auxiliary ships
>>33367528In this case, you must remember that the attackee side is ready to fire back
>>33367528Hmm. I'm in a bind here.On one hand, I'm all for lethality.On the other, distribution reeks of commie-talk.
I think it is good that our destroyers are getting the ability to engage all sorts of threats. It almost makes up for the smoldering heap of shit that are the LCS ships.
>>33367528Who makes up these buzzwords?
>>33367528Sounds like socialism to me. Go distribute your lethality before trying to force the rest of us.
>>33372063doesn't mean equally distributed
>>33369165Not really.Prior to the concept, your "big hitters" were cruisers and battleships. Large, expensive, and heavily manned. The escort ships were there as screens and sustainment, and to a lesser extent sacrificial offerings to subs.Under the current situation, battleships don't exist and cruisers are a niche role that don't really carry substantially more firepower than destroyers and not a whole hell of a lot more than frigates/corvettes or the actual sustainment ships.
As far as I can tell, it mostly means improving the USN's surface and air launched anti-ship missile options.The USN hasn't had to think about an enemy with large surface ships since 1991, so it's about time, with China's shipbuilding program, I guess.
>>33372644What this means is you get more ships with more firepower that are at sea as a whole more days in more parts of the world and while each individual ship doesn't have the hitting power of a cruiser/battleship, the net firepower is greater and they're far more versatile. Also losing a ship isn't as catastrophic as losing a battleship or cruiser, across all aspects: Morale, firepower in the engagement, man power, and firepower while waiting for a replacement.
I'd be hard-pressed to consider the Soviet fleet at its peak a threat to the US Navy, much less in 1991 which is more than 2 decades after its peak.
>>33372691Still need a little bit of a threat to keep them honest & give something to plan aroundLike the chinks building ASBM's for instance
>>33374543thats some real shitty cgi lol
>>33374543How can norks even compete?
>>33367528>what does /k/ think about distributed lethality conceptA shittier concept BTFO by 70s era Backfire Kitchen raids- a regiment (20 Backfires) firing 60 supersonic missiles massacre anything even US CVBGs it isn't even funny.
>>33367528what is distributed lethality?and keep it fucking short I don't wanna read a wiki article. that's why im asking instaed og googling
>>33376441everyone is a shooter
>>33376489how is that really different to a carrier strike group
>>33376624Carrier is one person with bunch of flying midgetsThe other aren't a bunch of midgets and they pack a heavy punch
>>33376624A carrier strike group is already a massive sensor-shooter network. Distributed Lethality aims to turn any local assemblage of forces into a sensor-shooter network. So the enemy doesn't just have to worry about the CSG, he has to worry about the minesweepers and the ASW frigates and the MPAs as well
So it's like the Russian approach?They have Corvettes and Frigates and Subs that are being standardised to carry Kaliber missiles. They're Frigates does not carry European Destroyer levels of firepower but given time, they'll have a bit more of them than say, Ukraine?Their upgrading some Victor class subs to carry Kalibers too.
>>33367528United States NavyEvery ship, a Missile craft.
>>33376383Can the russians even get 20 backfires in the air at the same time?
>>33368747>But dismissing the power of mobile air wings in retarded.What's lost in this discussion, especially when talking to chink shills, is the changing nature of air power itself. Already the V-22 is in service, and the F-35a can take off and land vertically through it's electric lift fan. Within twenty or thirty years, it will be possible to dock interceptors/jets on standard helipads. Meanwhile regular carriers will be able to midsized airliners. For context, a stock 737 can fly from Tokyo to Seattle or Brisbane to San Diego without refueling.This won't make traditional carriers obsolete, but it will give smaller ships far greater power and pilots more options.
>>33374543Am I going insane or this this a frog?
>>33376707don't even midgets pack a heavy punch at this point? the only things that aren't as small as possible are the things that cannot be, this is why we still have carriers.
>>33376945>Meanwhile regular carriers will be able to midsized airliners.Lel, no. Where the fuck are you going to store a midsized airliner on a carrier?>For context, a stock 737 can fly from Tokyo to Seattle or Brisbane to San Diego without refueling.Seattle to Tokyo direct is 4156 nmi (which no flight path is ever direct, ever).Max range for the newest, most upgraded 737, the 737 MAX, is 3825 nmi. Brisbane to San Diego is even further.Stop making shit up ya big gay dummy.
>>33376763>They're Frigates does not carry European Destroyer levels of firepower but given time, they'll have a bit more of them than say, Ukraine?Wow such lofty goals for mighty Russia, USA BTFO.
>>3337765840once and wings near by too.
>>33368747>greatest military in the world.Murdering peasants and tribesmen since 53. So great.
>>33377725>Where the fuck are you going to store a midsized airliner on a carrier?wings can rotate, like they do on the V-22
>>33378585killing third worlders gets my dick hard, try and stop me
>>33377658That's the idea. Every ship big enough to launch a Standard is gonna be carrying several VLS cells of them. The idea is you then have all these armed ships and then you've also got ships with very, very good ELINT/EWAR capabilities that aren't CVNs, so any time you have a handful of almost any ships together, you basically have a giant missile battery that can all be run from a single tablet across all those boats and you don't need a Burke or CVN in the mix to do it.
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