9mm was a meme round they said....The HK VP9 was a meme gun they said..... Well here's someone getting dropped by 9mm out of a VP9 and low and behold perfect stoppage. So what now?...... Still prefer .45 ACP?
Sorry Here's the link-https://youtu.be/sdKUFua5mv0
I have a HK P30 as my bedside gun
>>34562279Beretta 92fs with 30 round mag myself... How you like the P30? Didn't John Wick use that one?
>>34562252Are cops always this retarded? I don't understand it. Why are they not trained to understand people can't control what they do while they're being fucking tasered?
>>34562252>Allowing a non-white within 100 feet of you
>>34562291It's a great gun, absolutely the most enjoyable semi-auto handgun I've ever fired and it's 150% reliable if you're putting higher powered ammo in it
>>34562252> drop knife and get class A misdemeanor (assuming no priors)> nah, I think I'd rather bleed to death on the floorDipshit.
>>34562295i know this is bait, but they asked him to drop the knife roughly 6 times BEFORE tazing
>>34562344How is it bait? You can't expect him to drop the knife WHILE being tased. They're idiots for thinking he would.
>>34562252one less buttface.
>>34562295Did you watch the video? from another angle, you can see that the guy consciously charges. It's not like he falls or stumbles towards the cops, it's definitely he's making a break for it, and he didn't let go of the fucking knife, he's an idiot spic who obviously deserved to die.
>>34562350You imbecile. They asked him several times BEFORE shooting their tazers at him to drop the knife. He did not, so they tazed him. He charged, so they shot. If you dont want to get fucking shot, put your lethal weapons down when the cops are telling you to
>>34562350thats what i keep saying. every taser video i see, they issue commands WHILE tasing, and then stop telling him what to do when they stop. i don't think they quite understand how distracting it is to get tased, you're probably not paying attention too well.
>>34562350There was 6 seconds from when the first officer said drop the knife until he was tasered.
>>34562252>the guy was about to cooperate>lets escalate the situation and get ourselves in danger.DAT POWA TRIPP
>>34562408DROP THE KNIFEFUCK YOU TAZE THAT FUCKWHAT THE FUCK SHOOT HIM
>>34562297Status: Never Relaxed
>>34562401Are we watching the same video? I am usually one to blame the cop cause they could have done things differently but in this video the cops did everything right! If you're a troll 2/10 you got me to reply.
>>34562419The guy was about to drop the knifeWhat the fuck are you talking about
>>34562412See, this is where you would get tazed for not complying. Have you learned nothing from the video?
>>34562295The average amount of training time for police officers in the USA is 4.75 months.They aren't trained to do shit, man.
>>34562384and alll it would have taken was 1/100 of a second to open his hand and let gravity pull it to floor and he wouldve lived to commit domestic violence another day
>>34562230>>34562252Nice all I gotta do for stopping power with 9mm is taze them twice beforehand then shoot them good to know
>>34562441I surprised I had to scroll this far down for this comment.
>>34562230>>34562252When you put four rounds into someone it's no longer about stopping power.Did deserved what he got.>He was about to drop the knife.But he didn't. People are judge by their actions not their intentions. Learn to judge yourself by what you do, not what you want to do.
I just like 45 because it supresses better, stop yelling at me.
>pew! pew! pew!>one shot of 9mm works guise
>>34562520You forgot the >*taze* *tze* part before the >pew! pew! pew! part
>>34562506nigga are you high? 147 9mm is quieter than 230gr .45. Look at any suppressor testing data.
>>34562295>Dude actively charges with a knife after being tazed twice>zomg y dey shoot him he not able to controlDumbfucks like you are why people don't take genuine concern regarding actual police brutality seriously.
>>34562578yeah and 147 grain 9mm is still around the same price as cheap shit .45
>>34562561Holy fuck I laughed so hard at this shit.
>>34562230If you and the other recoil shy, beret wearing, quiche eaters want to carry your Euro caliber' into a life defining confrontation, go ahead.. I aim for the pelvis on a knifey, because a broken pelvis stops locomotion. .45ACP breaks bones. ..45ACP also drops dopers, including the Moro Tribesmen that USMC fought 100+ years ago. The 1911 has the best trigger and ergos, and the best follow up potential of any popular semiautomatic handgun Still blazing after all these years. If you poor fags can't afford the ammo, stop being suckas and learn to reload.
>>34562230I own both and personally I shoot and just like the .45 better but the 9mm is cool too. But if I was a LEO I think I'd prefer a .45>9mm
>>34562486The cops are going to be sued penniless in civil court because of the video.
>>34562421>about to drop the knife>immediately charges and swings knife at officersOKAY
>>34562230i heard police are switching back to 9mm from .45 acp
>>34562520At point plank range
>>34562561>YOU'RE A NAZI
>>34562384Count 6 seconds in your head. That's more than enough time to comply.
>>34562561I thought I'd get bored before the 8 minutes were up. I was wrong.
>>34562297>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFGHGHHGHHGPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP>tehehe all better ^__^ xDD
>>34562697I highly doubt that. They showed that they used proper escalation starting with tazers, then moving to deadly when the tazers didn't work. Looks pretty open closed justified shooting.
>>34562561>that fucking contact headshot @ 3:15at least, I think that is what that was - anyone else see something different?
>>34565748Were it in my place to decide, people like you would rot in the sun on pikes set high in town squares everywhere. There would be no funeral to send you off, and the family would be informed by a mark of shame to carry for three generations as a brand of their collective failure as a family to raise you right. The sky would be your grave, and naught but the bugs would dare touch your tainted corpse, accompanied only by a sign set as warning: BRAAAAPposter. May misfortune and disease fester throughout your existence as surely as it lurks within your addled brain, o filthy one.
>>34562230wtf I want a VP9 now
>>34566092Same, sometimes I think to myself 9mm might not be enough to put someone down. Then I see videos like the OP's and I get all warm and cozy in the high capacity glow that is 9mm.
>>34562252saw the same video on...HEY EVERYBODY DONUT HERE
>>34565894Maybe not contact, maybe not exactly in the brain bucket, but yeah it sure as hell looks like that.
>>34562561Where are they getting the audio from? The quality changes a bunch
>>34566557the police officers might have microphones or cameras on them and the audio is sent to the dashcam of the patrol cars and the video just cycles through the audio of each officer maybe
>police officers>armed with a volkspistolesad!
>>34562441It's just like Bioshock!
>>34565748Taking shitposting a bit too literal there, huh?
>>34562252I almost called the cops a long time ago for a domestic dispute my brother and his wife were in. I'm so glad I didn't call, I'm 90% sure my brother would be dead right now if I did
>>34562360>chargesyou call that a "charge".Come on this situation could have been resolved with a simple baton.Also the reaction from the cop who got the perp out of his hide was really slow at the beggining. >"oh there's a dude hidden in the wardrobe, let's just catch him like he'd never hide a weapon on him from this concealed position.So these cops are both crazy enough to catch a guy from his hide while he's totally in a position to land a deadly attack, and dumb enough to shoot an unreactive, unresponsive, drunk or drugged fatass brandishing his knife around like a fucking zombie.Got it.Man these cops must absolutely love paperwork.>>34562401>>34562412pretty much this
>>34562350why was he armed with a knife and refused to drop the knife in the first place? Was he showing the officers his sick new knife? Go chop your dick off.
He had a knife.A knife is deadly weaponIf I am an officer of the lawIf you are holding a deadly weaponIf I tell you to drop it and you are within 3 feet from meYou are a dead mother fucker.
>>34569364not holding, brandishing. Fuck, you don't have to be a policeman to shoot someone if they're brandishing a knife within three feet of you and you tell them to stop.
>>34569067Mhmm, you want equal force laws move to Mexico you piece of shit.Here in freedom land you charge someone with a knife you deserve to be shot.
>>34569490More like>a super car is quicker than any pussy ass electric car>but anon electric cars can be made quicker than gasoline cars because they have more torque at low RPM>Plus such electric cars can be bought for cheaper than almost any supercarbecause .45 guy is wrong in the first place.
>>34566071This T B H my family
>>34562331>drop knife and get class A misdemeanor (assuming no priors)>some beanerI somehow doubt it was a first.
just sold my VP9 today so i could get this
>>34569067>baton vs knifeOkay Naruto
>>34569718Better watch out now if some beaner tries to knife you since we don't have any video of the combat effectiveness against spics in closets.
>>34569718You chose well. At least when that gun's trigger return spring breaks you'll still have a functional bludgeon and single shot handgun.JK i love SP01s. Be sure and be a good boy by getting a little trigger work done though
>>34566790Is your brother retarded and thinks its a smart idea to charge at cops with a knife?
>>34569067Knives are a very deadly weapon in quarters that close. Those cops showed an incredible amount of restraint in not blasting him the moment they saw the knife. They repeatedly commanded him to drop it, he refused. Then they taze him and command him again. Still refuses. He then charges and get's ventilated before he can slash. BECAUSE KNIVES ARE FUCKING DEADLY AS SHIT. One solid hit from a blade as short as 4 inches can cause massive hemorrhaging. If they used batons they had a good chance of taking him in alive. And just as good of a chance of losing their lives to blood loss after trying to subdue a knife wielding criminal inside a bedroom's entryway.
>>34569067>Anime/Summer Blockbusters = Real LifeHow many times do you need to be dropped on your head to be as delusional as you?
>>34562561that turned into an absolute shitstorm so fast. They are lucky the officers didnt just start dropping them one by one
>>34569772is that a common issue?
ITT Armchair experts of police procedure Jesus, with all you brilliant criminal justice minds in this thread, who's out there paroling the streets or solving crimes?
>>34569974I have six CZ75's (all different models), and every single one has had a broken return spring inside of 2k rounds.
>>34570540im assuming thats a cheap fix
>>34570595Yep, only a couple bucks.
>>34566557>muffled terrified screech of a pussy being grappled definitely mics on the officers
>>34562230yea bullets kill people who woulda thought
>>34562561>AZ police never heard of handcuffs or zipties beforethe fuck? the same 3 dudes keep getting up because nobody is controlling them
>>34569718i saw you on /r/firearms you faggot. vp9 is god tier why would you do that
I wish I could justify getting a VP9 but it really doesn't do well in dirt water
>>34570693Concerned about getting attacked by trees and steel plates while swimming I see?
>>34570691VP9 is great. but not all steel hammer fired SP-01 great.
>>34562230>>34562252I wouldn't wanna be shot with anything more than airshit or paintball. So look of course it works. It's pointy and fasty.
Whether a bad guy "goes down" or not has a lot to do with their mindset as it does with landing a critical hit. That's why people on drugs might take a lot of bullets but keep running around.
>>34562561>>34562252More like these?
>>34570707No But if something works in dirty water over something that doesn't, I would rather take the more reliable working gun even if it's not as smooth
>>34562561The Hills Have Eyes meets The Keystone Cops.
>>34562230Why does /k/ seem to hate the VP9 so much?
>>34570693I own a VP9 and that claim is bullshit.Water does nothing to it and if your concerned about dirt get the enclosed back plate.
>>34562697Suspect never dropped the knife when he ran and also swung it at the officers, so you can go fuck yourself.
>>34562421He was hiding from the police with a fucking knife in his hand there really isn't much doubt to what he had in plan. Probably suicide by cop but if I were in their shoes I wouldn't take the chance because he might have a change of heart once he's about to stab me in the chest.
>>34569067What faggotry. These dudes were textbook.You cunt.
>>34566659hey, thats a really good game.
>>34562230If it was .45 he wouldn't have even rushed them knowing that there wouldn't be anything left.
>>34562561holy shit that headshot was fucking brutal.
>>34569067>responding to attempted use of deadly force with non lethal measures Anyone got that webm of those 8 British cops dancing around that one drunk dude with a knife?
>>34562561Did he just shoot that guy in the back of the head gestapo style? I didn't feel like watching it 10 times over due to screaming women (for fucks sake women, yall need to learn to shut the fuck up and let the men handle the violence) Why did he do that? did he take the cops gun? if so I can see why he got the headshot but damn.....Maybe they should have called for backup instead of running headfirst into a situation where they were outnumbered, but it is American cops were are talking about.
>>34572745i know what youre talking about. shits hilarious.
>>34566071Since they want to *brrraaap* so much I think we should tie them to a post and have an A10 do a strafing run on them. If I was a dictator that's how I'd eliminate my adversaries. >*BRRRAAP* THE BRAPPERS
>>34562792>about to drop the knife>GETS TAZED>immediately charges and swings knife at officersFuck having selective memory right
>>34562366>He chargedno, he had a spasm, because he was being fucking tazed.if getting tazed means you get shot in the end anyways, why have the tazer at all.
>>34562561>You're hitting childrenx60That officer has a great deal of patience. After the 30th time I'd have considered smashing his jaw to shut his irritating ass up. Probably a good thing I'm not polisman.
>>34572796Also, right around 3:30 one of the cops totally boots his partner in the fucking mouth, lol."Hey, buddy, remember that time you switched my sugar with salt at the coffee shop? Me too. *Thump*">>34572792No, you're an idiot. He got tased, clenched up, loosened up, and then ran at the officers trying to duck out of there. Likely he couldn't see due to the weaponlights pointed in his face and misjudged the distance between them thinking that he could have ducked out a window or something. There was no way this wasn't his fault.>Beats wife>Shit, cops coming, wat do mang?>I know, I'll grab a 6 inch knife and hide in the closet behind some clothes. I played enough Xbox to know how to escape patrols!>Get out of there right fucking now!>Let me see your hands!>DROP THE KNIFE>DROP THE KNIFE>DROP THE KNIFE>TASE HIM>Click. Zap>Oh fug, they tased me, I'm out>Runs at polisman with knife in hand>Nope. *CRACK CRACK CRACK CRACK*Neck yourself, faggot. This was justified.
>>34562655>knifey>dopers>suckas >Moro Tribesmen reference This, sir, was a good bait.
>>34562320 92fs Master race.>higher powered ammo>FS>SNot knowing what the S is there for.
>>34562350Nobody else appreciates it, but I like the willful ignorance school of bait too Anon
>>34571740poorfags that can't into superior hk quality
>>34562561The cop who opened fire first tho lmao. Just had enough and blew the dudes brains out. Bit uncalled for.
>>34566071Well it isn't up to you, nor would it ever be even of the time period allowed it because here you are edgeposting on 4chan
>>34569067Tell me what you actually know about police procedure. I'll wait
>>34572773>>GETS TAZEDso? Stupid fuck should have dropped the knife and still could have dropped it. Tasers don't induce roid rage and they don't cause people to run or flail. He chose to charge.>about to drop the knifethanks for the insight anon, please tell us more tales from the US Dept of Psychic Police
>>34562590>I use .45 cuz it's quieter>9mm is quieter though>I use .45 cuz it's cheap!You are so stupid.
>>34570693>I saw one video that can't be replicated
>>34570717Well no, that's what the USP match, P30L and P7 Target are for
>>34569772>>34569974I've shot 7,121 rounds through my sp-01Not a single spring has broken.Only the $7 recoil spring was replaced, as my local range told me to swap it out every 3k rounds.
>be gay beaner>hiding in the closet>domestically abuse my wife cuz im repressed fago>get domed baka
>>34562561Looks to me like those two guys on the officer were jockeying for his gun and the officer was doing what he could to retain his gun. mind that more cops get shot with their own gun than with a perps gun. being swarmed like that on your back and you can see those guys' hands fucking around near the officers belt. One of them probably got control of the pistol and his officer dropped him before he could shoot.Thats what I'm seeing, anyway.
>>34574928>gun gun gun gunlmao im not a first grader, i swear>and his PARTNER dropped the perp before he could shootThat or maybe the partner recognized that his baton wasn't getting these goyim clear of the downed officer and had to resort to deadly force because there was imminent danger of a perp getting his partners pistol and the standing officer could've been taken down by another guy and not been able to respond if it happened. Seems justified to me, although they failed completely in getting control of the situation
Who here thinks that taser actually did anything?It didn't look like he even got hit by both prongs.
>>34574861I have two SP01's that have both had broken trigger return springs. Consider yourself lucky and buy a replacement on hand. It takes three minutes to swap, but it will break.
>>34570336>criminal justiceI've spotted a jew.
>>34562230What the fuck is "low and behold"?I swear, I am getting tired of the uneducated niggers and FPS gamers infesting /k/ lately.
Yep, .45 is better but 9mm is not bad at all.
I think people call it a meme round cause the Glock uses it.
>>34562401They seemed to handle it pretty well with the tasers first, where did they escalate thing? And srsly I'm pretty anti cop so I'm not just bootlivking here by saying the cops dindu nuffin
>>34576106Or someone who went to college.
>>34572745Dont forget the one with a hammer and the tazer gun not working because he had a jacket on.
>>34572888I don't even get this meme, New USP or mk23 aside, most of HK's handguns fall in $600-800 range.That's Sig territory and sig offers so many variants that cross into $1000, so its not like anything outside of special snowflake imports or "semi-custom" models would ever go beyond that magical $1000 mark.Some people on here can't even scrap together $500 for a glock.Its not even a HK out of reach of poorfag meme, its just people that have no financial means or horrible financial decisions trying to get into an expensive hobby.
>>34574988Looks like the officer got shot in the thigh before the dude got his papaya split by the other cop
>>34577387Listen man, those horribly overpriced anime figures aren't going to collect themselves.
>>34577185So a communist then
It sad when someone has to die but the perp signed his warrant. I'm wonder if the cops were too close for the taser to incapacitate. At 3-4 feet (assuming they are hallway) the spread on the taser may not be enough for it to do anything more than offer pain compliance. Bad situation but this seems like more than a reasonable shoot given the confines.
>>34575367>both had broken trigger return springsI also clean my gun after every range visit (Sonic cleaner)It's perfectly clean inside and out.
>Hmm, cops in the house looking for me and yelling for me to come out.>better hold onto this large knife and hide in the closet, best plan.>Okay, they found me, maybe if I sit here with the knife they'll leave.>Okay, they got guns on me and told me to put the knife down, I better brandish it clearly and stand up so they can see me better.>Okay, they are tasing me, maybe I should try to book it past them and go down swinging.>okay, Im filled with lead and vision is fading, better just die so someone can have the displeasure cleaning me up.
>>34569718FUCKING LEDDITS GET OFF MY BOARD
>>34572932>>34574928>>34574988I remember seeing a video about this incident a while back that made things a bit clearer. It had the shooting in slow-mo. Basically the cop that you see being dragged away at the end and had his pant leg cut off was fighting off two guys on top of him. One of them got control of his pistol and shot the cop in the leg, then the other cop shot the shooter in the head and got the gun back.
>>34562252>Ugh I'm being tazed>how should I deal with this?>I'll just run at the officers with a knife!Same argument for that black kid who had his hand in his pants and then pointed it like a gun and got shot, don't do blatantly stupid shit when a cop is pointing a gun at you, this guy was an idiot.
>>34569067Criminal here.Please shoot anyone that pulls a knife on you.So much fucking blood.
>>34581440>FUCKING LEDDITSyou salty, my dude?
>>34562561Ok can I get some back story? Why are these assholes all gathered in a parking lot? Why are they fighting eachother? Some guy keeps screaming about kids but I don't see any.
>>34562230>>34562252god I fucking hate this guyhe recommends you should never try to kill someone in a self defense scenariosays you should aim for the legs and after they go down you should run awaydont ever fucking listen to this fatass
>>34583585This, it's the same with anyone who says the same who also clearly doesn't understand how ballistics and the human body work>Just shoot him in the leg!>What is the femoral arterie
>>34583545I think he meant children the way that the news stations were saying that Michael Brown was a child.>"You're a Nazi!"
>>34583585Post one video where he says this
>>34562561I wouldn't be surprised if that family was the result of generations of incest
>>34562252I can't stand this fat fuck's voice
>>34579095Neato, I do as well. Both my springs still broke. It's a known CZ issue and super cheap to deal with, so not something i'm concerned with. It did happen though. CZ is notorious for using cheap springs once in a while.
Real sad that his can't woman allowed law inside the house. To kill her man. Should need a warrant or a better woman.
>>34571740HundK. Because you suck and we hate you. Or more importantly because it is a not as good PPQ. Or because too manyfanbois.
What if it was an HK VP40? .40 stronk?
It still took multiple shots. Even one 10mm round to the leg would have killed him instantly because it would have severed his lower body and flipped him through 10 layers of dry wall while his internal organs ruptured from the shock.
>>34562297Allowing whites 100 nautical miles of the coast.
>>34569364>Kitchen tool>weaponPick one. You sound like the UK.
>>34562230very lethal, it only takes 2 tasers and a firing squad of guys all firing 9 at the same time
>>34590467if only they had a .40 the suspect would of started laughing at them and told them nothing personal kid, then teleported behind them and ran away because it'd be dishonorable to slaughter the weak
>>34574377>actually being this denseI like how things work in your world
>>34562230I can afford a nice gun like a HK USP so no.
>>34562561jesus why are waito people such niggers
>>34570691>i saw you on /r/firearmsneo-/k/ folks, it ain't a meme.
>>34562230The dude was cornered by three armed and armored men. They couldn't just pepper spray the closet, let the dude cry and cough for 5 minutes, then taze him or overpower him?
>>34569791The fact that he chose to hold a knife in the presence of cops already indicates he is a threat. You should not have to be told to drop it. I see no reason that spic should not have had a bullet through his head the instant they saw the knife.
>>34592765What part of choosing to be a hostile combatant by lurking with a knife do you not understand?What part of shooting hostile combatants through the head do you not understand?
>>34592827They're cops, not soldiers. It isn't a combat zone, it is a man hiding in a house.He didn't have a gun he couldn't shoot them and if he intended to cut them he would have.He probably had an IQ of 60 just like those cops. None of them were smart enough to do anything but freak out like animals.
>>34592839 In fact If people are taking arms against each other it is combat. In fact it was the criminal who chose to be a criminal, to arm himself against police, to conceal himself, and to do the opposite of what people (police in fact) aiming guns at him instructed him to do.There is no way to tell that he did not have a gun.There is no way to know if he could, or would, inflict a mortal wound, and what little doubt there could be (none in this case) he lost the benefit of a long time ago.These police officers risked their life to save the life of a scumbag. When they did not shoot him where he crouched, they risked their lives and gave him a chance to save their own. When they told him to drop his weapon, they gave him a chance to save his life by risking his own. When he stood up and did not get mag dumped, they risked their lives to give him a chance to save his own. When they tazed him instead of shooting, they risked their lives to give the criminal a chance to save their own. When he lunged at them with a knife their considerable patience had ran dry.Nothing of value was lost, luckily. But the actual god honest truths is that those police officers need to have their procedure seriously reviewed, because they took needless risks which could have resulted in an officer being injured or killed. Personally i would not fault the officer for shooting him in the head the instant he saw him crouching with a knife in the closet, as that alone far surpasses the threshold for necessitating an instantaneously deadly response. But by the time he stood up with a knife, he should have been eating lead. That is far, far beyond a "reasonable risk" for any officer to take. Any number of factors can contribute to a motivated assailant continuing to advance and stab at full speed even with many gunshot wounds. They got lucky, that either their shots landed right, or that he just laid down. Police could have VERY easily died that night.And for fucking what.
>>34592952These fags already know everything you're saying to them, they just have to stick to their stubborn, dividing agenda.If it had been a heterosexual white man in that closet with a knife they would agree with you, even more so if the cops were minorities.They're like the children who keep asking "Why?" while the adult gets more and more frustrated except they actually have something more to gain than knowledge.In the end they'll be grapes in the winepress and the only people feeling sorry for them will be them.