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ITT: We fix the abortion that is the United States Blues uniform

>inb4 hurr durr just disband the AF problem solved XD

This isn't a thread for shitflinging between the branches, it's for legitimate creative discussion over what would be an aesthetic, professional looking military uniform that would be easy to wear and maintain but not look like you work for Delta Airlines or sell milk out of a van.

To sweeten the deal, other branches are free to come in and bitch about their dress uniforms too, and provide decent alternatives.

Reminder that this thread is about dress uniforms, not utility uniforms.
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>>34824274
Disband chair force
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>>34824274
go back to 4 pocket class A jackets.
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>>34824274
>Implying the AF is good for anything else other than delivering milk
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why do burgers keep changing uniforms every year?
is it a tax evasion thing?
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>>34824274
Honestly, the US WWI uniform should just be the dress uniform for all branches, and don't gussy it up or anything, cos that looks gay as fuck. Just a really simple, martial, and inherently good looking uniform.
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>>34824354
Because we keep making ugly as fuck uniforms ever since we dropped BDUs and the Army's old Class A. Since then they've been doing a horrific job at damage control.
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>>34824354
Yet another way military industrial complex makes a profit
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>>34824381

With or without those sweaty-looking boot covers?
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>>34824381
Honestly, you're a stupid faggot.
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>>34824274
>To sweeten the deal, other branches are free to come in and bitch about their dress uniforms too,
I would but the Navy's dress uniform(s) are the best around. Nobody's ever gonna bring them down.
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>>34824381
I agree.
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>>34824274
Those WWI looking uniforms on the right look pretty rad.
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>>34824381

Right up until a retarded liberal journalist goes

>High collar
>Belt
>Lots of white people

THE US IS DRESSING LIKE NAAAHHHHZEEESSS

>>34826016
We would have looked so sweet, but for the reason I just stated above, they got shitcanned. Some literal Jews complained that they looked like Waffen SS uniforms.
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IMO every branches dress uniforms look like shit except Marine chucks. Yes, dress blues look like shit and I don't get why they're so hyped by everyone. Get rid of all the camo and go to single color utilities. issue appropriate camo to deploying troops with a pattern related to where they're deploying to.
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I uh, actually like the AF uniforms? God help me, I even like the ABUs
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>>34826110

Nice bait
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>>34826110
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>>34825916
I have a hard time on that one. I don't know.

>>34826024
>Some literal Jews complained that they looked like Waffen SS uniforms.
Sauce on that?

>>34826071
I agree with this. We should go back to how we dressed in the early 80s and prior, and issue uniforms for deployment.
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>>34826110
The ABU is shit and will always be shit. Should have clung to BDUs. Blues aren't terrible but look too much like a business suit...the flight cap is stupid and useless though.
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>>34826110
i like the abu as well. sage green boots fo life.
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Capes?
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>>34826318
Good taste in games desu
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>>34826318

NO CAPES
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Army needs to fix its shit first.
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>>34826513
God is that fucking awful. Not only the cut and fit of the whole uniform, but blousing your pants for a dress uniform is fucking terrible; get some white or tan spats/leggings.
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>>34826482
especially for the airforce
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>>34824274

Remove dress uniform and service uniform from mandatory equipment lists. Use combat/utility uniforms everywhere and for every occasion.
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>>34826513
the top third is good then it just turns into a disaster...
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>>34826513
I like the dress greens better
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> tfw IDF
> tfw your service uniform is also your dress
> unless you are naval branch or Colonel and up
> so low cabbage pic related is IDF's highest decorated soldier in history

You think your dress is not fancy enough?
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>>34826513
A lot could be fixed with dress blues if the army did away with all the fucking snowflake additions that certain soldiers get. No tucking into boots, no cowboy hats, switch to belts for all, get rid of red and black berets, maybe keep green and tan ones at most.
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>>34828506
This. Blues are almost exclusively used for punishment purposes. No pride in wearing something you're forced to maintain in case you fuck up. Also our branches are wasting money on this different uniform bullshit, we should all decide on one standard. I say OCPs since they're required when army/usaf deploy.

>Inb4 muh tradition
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I just want to wear ocp scorpions...
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Honestly military dress uniforms should always include a cape for anyone above Sergeant.
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>>34828551
The IDF is fairly minimalistic with its visuals, presumably something about their roots fighting for their lives.
Pic related are Israel's equivalent to the DSM, DSC, and MoH (left to right)
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>>34828551
Jews gonna jew, even their own armed forces.
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>>34828817
I actually like those a lot. I feel like military dress looks best when it's either very sedate and professional, or flashy and grandiose. The heebs have clearly mastered the former.
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>>34826513
This looks like a USCG recruit found an old Army dress jacket in a thrift shop and is trying it on for a laugh
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>>34824285
Disband all branches except the U.S. Marine Corps.

There, fixed the entire military.
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>>34824289
Would literally fix it overnight. 10/10 looks, would wear.
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>>34828817
The parallels you drew are close but not exact. The definitions are:

Blue - Medal of Distinguished Service
"For a courageous deed that is to be distinguished"
Red - Medal of Courage
"For a courageous deed performed in combat duty and with risk of life"
Yellow - Medal of Valor
"For a deed of utmost courage performed in combat in the face of enemy forces"

These definitions preclude certain deeds from recieving certain awards, like a minefield rescue that got Courage because no enemy forces were present.

The law also states that only the ribbons are to be worn except for Independence Day and the Memorial Day right before it.
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>>34828817
Also my favorite "civvie" medal is the WW2 vet medal, awarded to all allied veterans, as well as partisans and resistance groups. Note the black-white-red theme after the Iron Cross, plus a blue stripe for a little fu to kraut.
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>>34829035
>close but not exact
Look at the requirements for the DSM, DSC, and MoH. Combined with the rankings, I'd say close enough. Even the DSC is basically "heroism not justifying a MoH".
WRT not wearing medals, I personally like the idea, keeping it classy with minimum bling. Compare to Nork generals with so many medals they have them on their pants.
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>>34829073
>a little fu to kraut
The entire existence of the state of Israel is one big FU to them.
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>>34829142
Gotta enjoy the little things, man.
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>>34828623
Idk, I wore my blues to my brothers OTS graduation and gave him his first salute. Would wear them to his UPT graduation if I was able to make it.

>tfw punishment in my squadron used to be having to stock the bars fridg with beer
>new commander got rid of bar
Welp at least I never wear blues
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>>34824274
Congratulations, you still look better than us.
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>>34829549
I actually like it.
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>>34829549
>those boots
jesus
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>>34829473
Sounds like a Squadron I'd like to part of. I've always heard rumors of Fighter Squadrons having they're own bar and getting trashed during the duty day.. one can only dream. That said, what I mentioned does have exceptions. However, I personally have more pride in my ABUs even though they don't work.
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>>34829549
Looks okay imo
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>>34829549

At least you guys don't have more than a third of your formations filled with niggers, Mexicans, and obese women.
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>>34825967
nigger
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>>34824274
One word.

Capes
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I'm no American but as a comment on how to make a little improvement would probably give the Air Force and Army a stable belt for the dress blues. Looks nicer to have something on the waist.
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>>34830705
I like this idea
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>fix the USAF Dress Uniform
Easy. Disband the Air Force. Get rid of the bureaucrat policies preventing the Army from having fixed wing aircraft. Give the land-based nukes to the Army.

Give all saved money to Navy, USMC, and Army. Problem solved.

Only negative is that the employee candidate pool for DMV employees will grow by 5000%.
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>>34830922

Stop trying to derail our thread. You're not welcome here and if the Air Force pisses you off that much just hide the thread and fuck off somewhere else.
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>>34826669
only airborne troops blouse dress pants, and the airborne was the first to go with boots over leggings to begin with
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>>34830922
>USMC
Disband them too, they're literally a poorer, useless army force designed for amphibious assaults. Army guys did just fine storming the beaches of Normandy. Make them either an assault division of the Navy or put them in the Army.

Bam, now we have the Army and Navy.
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yeah just go back to the 4 button tunic, but in shade 1620 so you don't have to replace the pants and caps.

Also, the Army uniform isn't ugly, it's the historic uniform used by the US Army since the very beginning, just in a more modern cut.
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>top 3 ribbons/medals only.
>replace US lapel devices with some embroidered patches. gold for officers and silver for unlisted
>embroidered shoulder boards for rank for officers.
>no garrison caps. peak caps for officers and kepis(think french army/french foreign legion) for enlisted.
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>>34831082

> it's the historic uniform used by the US Army since the very beginning, just in a more modern cut.

> it's the historic uniform used by the US Army since the very beginning, just cut so obese nigger women can fit into it with flamingly gay new colors

FTFY
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>>34831384
>new colors
uhhh... have you ever seen a civil war re-enactor?
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still the best uniform out there.
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>>34830922
What is that thot doing?
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>>34829073

I think pic related being paid by krauts is more effective fu to krauts. First two submarines of 1st batch fully paid by Germans, third 50% paid by Germans. First two submarines of second batch 33% subsidized by German taxpayers and final 15% paid by krauts.
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>>34826110
>>34826201
I prefer the ABUs to ACUs.

Anyway, I'd say that the ideal preparation would be giving the military a centralized uniform, then instating regulations and changes to the uniform (shade of accents, shade of uniform, how it is to be worn) is to be based on branch and subtexts, so for example the United States Air Force blouses their boots, and the airborne infantry of other branches do the same.
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>>34832925

1/10 bait m8
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america yes
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>>34833235

I feel like we struggle too hard to find our own identity.
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I like pic related personally. Simple and not ridiculously ornate, nice for everyday wear, and a neutral color that works well for different settings.
>>34825984
Hell, the Navy officer's dress blues haven't been updated since the 1920s, I think they're fine as is. The heavily padded shoulders look a bit goofy, but whatever. Additionally the full dress whites are timeless.
>>34829549
Eh, looks close enough to the old school Luftwaffe to work. Like what >>34829569
said, the boots need to be about a foot taller and of the jackboot variety.
>>34830705
Aesthetic af
>>34832925
Goddamn right.
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>>34833235
can't shoot the enemy when you have to lough this hard
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>>34833235
that's literally a college band uniform, it's kind of supposed to look dumb.
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>>34830922
On two conditions;
Army Air Corps wears Pink & Greens, and I still get to fly.
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>>34833283

Why there is text US Army on it if it is silly college marching band uniform?
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Here are some of my suggestions.

Full UNSC, the dankest.
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>>34833319
Something more refined and sharp, like our Far right brethren
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>>34833295
West Point.
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>>34833326
Or a return to pure class.
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Just give everyone the band uniform
>>34833295
Because it's from West Point
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i was imagining that one day we might have fabrics that react to salt water so that if someone ever crash lands or goes overboard, the uniform. material would turn a bright orange. that would be cool.
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>>34833332
Ike Jackets are badass
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>>34829549

Der einzige dienstanzug der gut aussieht

bestätigter fagottspieler
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>>34826513
for realz
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>>34833326
You want to know why the german WW2 uniform looked so "refined and sharp"? Because they were worn by germans who understood and respected the heritage and traditions that the uniform carried with it.

The problem with the US is that they don't make something which is unique or connected to its history, but instead tries to copy the uniform of another country/culture because "it looks good".

It will never look anything other than forced, like that kid who wore his dads leather jacket to school, obviously several sizes too large but you know, m'lady.
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Ditch the Forage cap and bring back peaked caps. Improve the officer "shoulder boards" with something similar to what the army has then it would start looking top tier.

I had a arguement with my roommate during college about this because we're both AFROTC and for some reason he thinks the current AF uniform is the second coming of jesus (mainly because he was JROTC) but everyone else thinks it's trash due to the cover. If you're a pilot or something aviation you can keep the forage hat due to easier to store it when on a no-cover zone.


>>34833319
Honestly something like this Anon brought up would be top-tier for the AF, full on UNSC white and blue
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>>34833466
>those fucking glasses

Like school in summer... Geez, you can tell that even dubya is embarrassed.
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>>34833020
Thot things
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>>34833466
you can still wear those hats btw
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>>34833466
Would look better if he'd been allowed to wear his beret.
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>>34833722
I can't make out his career field badge. Secfo I'm assuming?
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Just switch to this and accept your inner homosexuality
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>>34831051
I'm just saying bloused pants looks retarded in a dress uniform, but I also don't think wearing your pants over shoes/boots is martial looking enough; so that leaves jackboots or leggings/spats, and jackboots are too unamerican..so I think we should use tan or white leggings, but the uniform and fit needs to change A LOT to make that work, but it needs a total overhaul anyway
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>>34833332
N-no homo, but..
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>>34833331
>>34833335

Just dress 'em same fucking uniforms as rest of cadets. Then there isn't need to look like space cadet or joke.
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>>34829781
I'm ANG baby. Former fighter squadron, currently an MQ-9 squadron.

Never worn blues officially since i graduated from tech school. It's funny because every other Monday is blues Monday for the rest of the base except for us. ABUs all day, every day.
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>>34824274
>hugo boss circa 1940s
done. american uniforms are always hideous.
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>>34830922
No
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>>34833417
>Because they were worn by germans who understood and respected the heritage and traditions that the uniform carried with it.

WW2 German uniforms were developed in 1936 and redesigned in 1944.
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>>34833832
Thought you were a pilot at first, felt very bad for you momentarily.

My greatest fear is getting a pilot slot and being stuck in RPAs.
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>>34824274
I miss the Old Army Dress Greens. they looked better and were distinctive from the other branches uniforms. P.S.s I started my time in the Army with the dress greens and ended with the dress blues. any ones else think the Army Dress blues were a mistake?
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>>34833347
This will be the source of the next Gulf War Syndrome type outbreak.
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>>34833969
yes.

the old dress blues that were optional uniforms for special occassions were on point though.

the army butchered the blues when they made the army service uniform.

the only change I would have made to the greens. would be to have a very light tan colored shirt instead of the pale green.
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>>34833347
there was a rumor that the blueberries did that.

though sailors said that everyone would come back from sea covered in orange spots if it did.
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>>34828623

In a decade or so no one will remember 'muh traditions. If camo is right when receiving decoration in combat zone it is right in every possible occasion.
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>>34824274
Navyfag here. NSU a SHIT. I nearly exclusive wear the itchy bitchy with it because black on black is a good look.
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>>34829549
these have to be recruits.

uniform would look better if they took their uniforms to a tailor. the belt either needs a shoulder strap or loops in the jacket. the boots are terrible though.
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>>34824391

Class A's weren't good. They were just better than what we have now.

This is what US Army uniforms looked like the last time they were right.
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>>34833244

I would kill to get to wear Galactic Imperial uniforms every day to work.
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>>34835093
What if you could kill AND wear the Galactic Imperial uniform?
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>>34824274
I seem to remember a uniform thread from a few years back where some one posted a Civil War era Army uniform that looked reminiscent of the current Marine Corps dress blues, except it was all black and had light blue trim to it. Any one know what I'm talking about??
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>>34829807
Please tell me those are reservists or something and not an honor guard, that is some low tier marching.
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>>34833466
'ol g dubs gazes in awe at them air force notrils
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I think I understand what makes good uniforms look good.

It's the faux turtleneck. The normal collars of some uniforms just makes them look like they're wearing business suits; wholly unsuited for a military setting.
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>>34836206
are you referring to a mandarin collar? I think suit styles are fine, they just have been getting the proportions all wrong in the lapels
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>>34833417
>You want to know why the german WW2 uniform looked so "refined and sharp"?
Because Hugo Boss??
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>>34824285
>fpbp
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>>34836708
The US is full of faggy fashion designers, how come our uniforms are still pretty garbage?
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>>34829807
>Großer Zapfenstreich

At least the Germans kept some of their military traditions.

What's amazing to me is the uniform, all that's missing are the arm bands.
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>>34832925
>pipe cleaners
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Trump, please hire one of your weird high-society fashion designer people to suggest some new ideas.

We're wearing shit you would get at a fucking Burlington Coat Factory. It's embarrassing.
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>>34835093
I'm fairly sure you would actually kill yourself if you actually had to do that. That plastic is probably kinda sweaty in hot weather.
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>>34829549
Untuck the boots and give SNCOs a Sam brown belt and it's fixed
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>>34824274
You already posted the fix. We could have been Imperial officers assigned to the most powerful battlestation in the galaxy, instead we're '30s airline pilots.
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>>34833466
holy shit that chick has big ass nostrils
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>>34828880

Yes, we definitely need all of our servicemen to be low IQ rapists.
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>>34835943
The marching is intentionally subdued to minimize Nazi similarity.
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>>34834382
No, the airborne got special dress greens. The rest of the army did not have uniforms like that.
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>>34833511
Airfags never realize they are lame as fuck. Complete lack of self awareness.
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>>34833802
Marching in a band requires a range of shoulder motion most dress uniform size don't allow. Most highschool and college marching bands look like that because the suits are functional and cheap
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>>34841312
Have you ever seen someone in a flight suit and thought, "what a fucking dork"?
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>>34841505
Yes, multiple times in fact. The only non-retarded looking dudes in flight suits are the normal athletic males they use as fighter pilots (which is less than 1% of the air force). Everyone else looks like a large toddler in a green onesie. You look fucking stupid.
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>>34841536
I work at a heavy base and all the pilots and aircrew I see in flight suits look fit enough.

Maybe you just have a chip on your shoulder
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>>34830705
those are the only 2 officers in san marino
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I can fix the Army.

>take the west point cadet dress uniform. give it to the army.
>the cadets just use their normal and plane looking grey uniform for the dress uniform purposes. http://www.west-point.org/parent/plebe-net/uniforms/fulldress_rifle.jpg
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needs more swords
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>>34841699
the san marino "military" is also their olympic volleyball team.
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>>34833347
Salt spray and sweat ruin that idea unless it's something that can be washed/reset
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Academy Cadets look slightly better I think.
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>>34841763
it is the shoulder boards, cuff stripes and minimal pin on junk.
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>>34841793
Plus the four breast pockets. Not sure if they're functional but they should be.
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>>34833408
>>34829549
>>34833408
Why can't we simply adopt the sand coloured summer uniform as standard issue?
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>>34833332
Ikes and pinks were the best uniform the army ever put out
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>>34834227
>blocks your path
I wish the Johnny Cashes were still around. Not the best looking uniform, but you could pretend to be a Panzer crewman at least.
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>>34841953
God damn that's nice.
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>>34841715
Yeah good luck getting anyone in the actual army to sign on to that
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>>34841425
>Marching in a band requires a range of shoulder motion most dress uniform size don't allow.

That can be done without deviating too much from regular uniforms.

>Most highschool and college marching bands look like that because the suits are functional and cheap

Westpoint isn't like most highschools or colleges. It is military institution, uniform should reflect that.
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>>34833331
just because your mom dresses you like a fag for prom doesnt mean you dont look like a fag
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>>34842127
only in the US navy can you go from looking like the waffen SS to the good humor man in the same day.
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>>34841303
Only field uniforms were different 1939-1944. Same service dress throughout
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Question: why did the army replace their old green uniform with the current shitty one?
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>>34826513
Oh god, this!

The blues look like hot garbage compared the based as fuck greens. Whoever decided that they needed to change uniforms needs to be held accountable for their actions.
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>>34842516
The same reason any uniform change happens

A flag officer with buddies in the uniform business (that's a thing) wanted to ensure he had a job after retirement. So the contract was awarded and now that flag officer's relaxing life is sealed.
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>>34842642
Why the hell hasn't the marines uniform change then?
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>>34825967
So... does this count as a zip-gun
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>>34842327
Eh, I won't knock the summer whites because they're iconic and comfy as all hell in the heat, but yeah they're not very martial.
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>>34842660
>Why the hell hasn't the marines uniform change then?

Marines can't afford such change and it would cause public intoxication and disorderly conduct among junior enlisted, possibly a riot, in excess of average weekend. Think of all the poor sergeant majors, writing NJP's at current rates is already a burden for them and drives them to alcoholism.
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>>34828551
>Jews, not giving big fancy medals
>Even to their own soldiers

I mean, I'm not even /pol/ and I think that's funny.
Practical though, I'd probably do the same in my own military when I rule the world.
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>>34830705
Isn't San Marino quite hot? They must be sweating balls.
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>>34843235

It is in Italy, I guess winters are cold enough for light cape to tolerable.
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>>34842660
Because the Marines actually respect tradition.
Which is why service and dress uniforms haven't changed since before WWII.

Attempts to "update" or Change Marine uniforms have been made and they have been met with the most toxic hate mankind has ever seen.

Should a Commandant actually propose to adopt a new Dress Blues uniform I have no doubt in my mind he would have very literal and real death threats sent to him.
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>>34826513
Looks like a damn Bus Driver uniform.
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>>34830705
Pax Bisonica
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marines are all garbage. burn their uniforms while they are worn

>>34843116
bitch what that's THE sailor uniform. you see a dude in that, you know he works on a boat, for the government, having lots of gay sex and lots of fun in the meantime
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>>34841274
He's talking about how they're out of step you dingbat. Not everything is about your /pol/ triggers
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>>34825984
>I would but the Navy's dress uniform(s) are the best around.
>Navy's dress uniform(s) are the best around.
>best around

Bitch Please!
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This >>34829549
Still looks far better than this >>34826513
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>>34843896
I never understood how the entire US military dress uniforms all make the wearer look like a clown except Navy and Marines.
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>>34824274
>Mechanics don't need that uniform
>Pilot's don't need that uniform
Seems like a complete waste of resources.
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>>34842127
The midshipmen at the Naval Academy still wear a short sleeve version of those. They're actually pretty convenient in that they're impossible to get dirty.
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>>34843896
>>34843960
wtf the marine uniform looks just as bad as the army one for largely the same reasons

the whole us military looks like clowns desu, even your combats have that weird childproof sleeve rolly device because apparently yankees are too dumb to roll their sleeves properly
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>>34843841
Nah you're mixing that up with USN officer dress blues
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>>34844004
Sounds like someones assblasted about Marines running a train on their wife/gf.
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>>34843961
So perfect for the Air Force then.
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>>34843896
i suppose that they're the best in the US, but that's not really saying much. They look pretty shit to me
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>>34841425
All i hear are excuses.
>>34841715
You chose the Worst Cadet uniform around.
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>>34844017
youre delusional if you dont think the army and muhreen uniforms dont basically look the same, just with different colors and slightly different tailoring

striped pants are gay shit and dress pants should be a grayscale color only if theyre worn with a suit jacket that isnt grayscale
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>>34844010
>USN officer dress blues
Nope it's definitely the Army that has the bus driver blues.
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>>34844064
except for the weird button that doesnt go anywhere (why do so many american-made suits have that) thats a pretty good look

nice and basic, conservative, timeless
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>>34844039
>different coloring and slightly different tailoring
What do you want? There's only so much you can do with a modern combat uniform, that's why just about every military's combat/utility uniform is the same with the only difference being color and tailoring. Also have no idea what you mean by "sleeve rollers." I'll agree Army, Air Force, and to some extent Navy suck at rolling sleeves but Marine sleeves are hard to beat.
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>>34844076
I think that's a Command at Sea star, but I do know what you're talking about. We have those on our overcoats near the collar.
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>>34833319
Looks like he's got french jump wings. Anyone recognize anything else hes got one?
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>>34844039
>the army and muhreen uniforms dont basically look the same

That's because the Army tried Copying, BADLY, Marine Blues you dingus. And the Army does not tailor their dress blues. It's actually against regs to tailor Army blues.

Also
>High necked colar
>mid waist belt
>Proper dress shoes instead of polished boots with tucked untailored trousers
>Only ribbons ranks and badges. No unit patches, MOS rates, or other such fun house clown show of uniform devices.
>Standard pure white service cover instead of special snowflake beret.

Yeah definitely the same.
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>>34844090
>What do you want?
something that looks like a normal formal outfit instead of looking like a fucking clown

you're literally hispanic tier with all the gaudy colors and unnecessary bits you attach to yourselves. it's a bit much and it's clear that the idea is to make people look more important than they are, rather than dressing people up appropriately for formal occasions
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>>34844134
the jacket, pants, and hat are basically the same profile m8

>bbbut we pop the collar and the patches are different!!
it's still the same shitty style of suit with the same caricature of a peak cap with the same gaudy retardo stripe pants

its clown shit, str8 clown shit
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>>34844134
I honestly think having just the Division/Wing patches on Marine dress blues was neat. I don't know why they got rid of that but it might have something to do with the fact that you no longer stay in the same place your whole career.
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>>34844140
>make people look more important they are
But we are more important than you are. My dumbest boot pfc has more authority than the top general of whatever bumfuck country you're from.
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>>34844188
>But we are more important than you are.
congratulations you crayon-eating moron you failed to parse a simple sentence
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>>34844153
>the same gaudy retardo stripe pants

you mean the same gaudy striped pants literally every military in the world has their own form of?
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>>34844153
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>>34844195
those people look like clowns

>>34844208
as do they

>being proud that you look like a cross between retarded italians and muzzie britbongs
>don't even have the national history to justify such stupid outdated uniforms

cripes nigga
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>>34844219
Instead of shitty b8 how about give us an example of what you think is a good uniform?
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The Canadians have a nice simple dress uniform. Looks black but it's actually dark green.
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>>34844208
they've worn that uniform for a longer time than your country has existed

sorry that they don't fit your 21st century sk8rboi fashion trends
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>>34844231
i already said >>34844064 looks real nice

Canada's army one is not bad at all and strikes a balance between proper modern yet timeless suits with gay plastic belts, and all the ~uniform devices~ actually have meanings and aren't just there literally just to be shiny
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>>34844153
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>>34844252
it's also often worn without the plastic belt when the parading people arent carrying weapons, and especially when it's being worn for just normal workplace stuff (simply attending a course's graduation, for example)

>>34844257
>being proud of looking like the french

l o l

youre really attached to your faggot stripe pants, arent you
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>>34844252
>A Fucking Leaf

That Explains the all the ass mad. Hows it feel knowing you're whole Country, right down to your military, is completely irrelevant. I have pic related for you leaf.

Day of the rake soon.
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>>34844283
>this triggered because someone insulted your pants

kek

even our cops dress better than yours
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>>34844278
>really attached to your faggot stripe pants
Dear leaf, this is your countries dress uniform.
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>>34844283
comedy gold, my friend

>>34844278
You're not Tompkins or Jampen are you?
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>>34844301
>this is your countries dress uniform
of literally what force? those look like some kind of government agent or cadet school

>>34844309
what
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>>34826513
it looks like stolen valor hobo larping.

or a badly done vidya uniform
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>>34844252
Us armoured folk get black belts and slings :)
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>>34844299
Why do their uniforms look like they came out of Ronald McDonalds closet?
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>>34844278
Literally US Army uniforms in a slightly different shade. Can you at least try?
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>>34844324
I just had to make sure you weren't one of my buddies posting about how great our uniforms look.
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British No.2 dress is sharp.
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>>34844329
black berets too, right?

>>34844337
note how the colors are actually coordinated and the stuff they slap on the jacket actually mean various things
also note the lack of gaudy retarded stripes and piping everywhere unless it's a guy's rank
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We at the army need to fuck off with Berets. I'm due to ship off to RASP and all my fuck knuckle peers wont stfu about "Muh Tan Beret"
Btw Ill admit USMC has best male blues
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>>34830705
Comissar of The Imperium of Mankind/10
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>>34844357
berets look good and are fun to wear compared to peak caps imo

theyre also good to have for events where you want to be formal but not THAT formal and a peak cap would be too much but combats are inappropriate; graduations, office work, etc
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>>34824274

Who cares about the uniforms, when are we getting our Rascal scooters? I'm tired of having to walk all the way to the commissary from drone command like some infantry grunt.
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>>34844355
Yep. There's no trench in our beret either. Just slap your cap badge on it.
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>>34838308
You know there's a hermetically sealed underarmor, right? It regulates temperature in limited E.V.A. and H.E.
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>>34844324
>of literally what force?
Of Literally the Canadian army in Full Dress uniform.

What you have posted in your pic related are not dress uniforms. Those are service uniforms and Utility uniforms you stupid leaf.

Had you actually bothered to scroll down on the wiki page you googled in 5 seconds you would have found this picture also.
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>>34844332
they're cops, they can do whatever they want

(the real reason is that this particular police force has been on strike since forever, but they cant just not work since theyre an essential service, so to show their displeasure they wear non-uniform pants. their most recent gripe is provincial-level so they've added red caps and big red stickers that read "Libre Nego" ("Free Negotiations") on cop cars)

>>34844380
>There's no trench in our beret either.
AUUUUUUUUUUUGH
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>>34844391
>RMC
>actually real members
>actually real people

AHAHAAHAHAHahaHaHAHahahaHAahAHAhAhaHAAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

not only are RMC students not actually in the force until they graduate and do proper basic, but no one likes them or the shit they tromp around in

RMC is literally just a college that you pay for with a reg force contract instead of money, and only the biggest faggot nerds do it because school is trivially cheap here and you can't even get into any of the good officer trades with the degree you get from RMC. RMC degrees are also fucking worthless in the real world

you've been had
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>>34826513

>Green Jacket
>Blue pants

You'd think pants of a matching or at least complimentary color would be fairly obvious.
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>>34844391
Except there IS a set of DEUs in the photo he posted. They're Navy ones tho
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>>34844409
Enjoy being a 2RCR sir, you fucking FAG
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I say we take the USMC dress blues and change colours for each branch.
Usmc stays black and red
Army goes green and yellow
AF goes Light blue and white
Navy goes dark blue and white
CG fuck off
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>>34844428
>throwing out the names of random units as if it means anything
your pants are still stupid and your uniform as a whole looks like garbage

nigga even other countries normal combat uniforms are nicer than yours and this nigga didnt even iron his
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>>34844416
I'm specifically talking about the red jacket with black pants and red stripe. Worn by the Canadian Ceremonial guard. The DEU's are not a full dress uniform but a service dress uniform.
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>>34844460
>green and yellow
literally puke colors, please stop whatever it is you think youre doing

>>34844477
>comparing a single unit of people specifically meant to be biting britbong royal guards to the stock standard uniform everyone gets
are you some kind of nigger and/or faggot?
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the air force needs some fucking tailors though, lookit dem pants
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>>34844409
so the Canadian military gives rank and medals to what are essentially ROTC collge students?

>press x for doubt

FYI. Pic related is of the Royal Regiment of Canada.
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>>34826513
>>34842579
Why are the new blue uniforms cut so fucking baggy? Did the Army stop believing in tailors?
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>>34844544
>>34844409
forgot pic.
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>>34844518
nothing but skin-tight pants are going to look good with that amount of wind
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>>34844413
you overestimate the fashion sense of yankees

even in the tailoring world, there's a few styles of venting a suit in the rear so it can move around. american suits gained notoriety once american industry got good enough to export lots of suits, because americans were too stupid to cut a vent in the back so that the suit can actually move with you and be taken in at the waist properly. it's generally known as either "American-Style" or "Potato Sack Style" because it literally looks like you just put on a fucking potato sack and called it a day (which is probably what the yankees were exporting at the time, honestly)

>>34844551
dont yankees have to buy their own uniforms and have the value of them taken off their pay or something? they probably expect members to get them tailored themselves

>>34844544
he's the only guy in the photo with medals on, he's walking down the center with someone else who looks somewhat important, and the shit on his shoulders is utterly meaningless so dollars to doughnuts he's an instructor who either came from the military or was posted to RMC because he's a broken husk of a man

>Royal Regiment of Canada.
which is literally one unit whose whole job is to be the royal guard at a cenotaph. it's also not even a real unit, most of its members cycle in and out and are drawn from the reserves

you dont know shit faggot, nothing about fahsion, nothing about canada, nothing about militaries in general, kys yankee slime
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>>34844544
To be fair, the US does for its ROTC students too, although those are fake ribbons only for ROTC. At least the Naval Academy midshipmen get national defense ribbon and pistol and rifle quals, don't know about the other service academies.
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>>34844563
true but theyre still a little big on most of them
the lady on the far left has got some decent fits

idk why but the navy really loves issuing skin-tight pants, both the black and white ones, and then giant stiff jackets that make you look like a fat retired linebacker no matter what. army seems somewhere inbetween when theyre not wearing kilts
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>>34833891
Yes retard, being based off of centuries of German military traditions. There a reason the Bundeswehr Heer still looks a lot like the Wehrmacht which looked a lot like the Kaiserliche Heer
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>>34833417
>The problem with the US is that they don't make something which is unique or connected to its history, but instead tries to copy the uniform of another country/culture because "it looks good".

nailed it desu
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>>34833891
no point arguing with a wehraboo
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>>34842127
I think it's fantastic, considering the NSU is just a cost cutting measure. Oh look we have a contract for khaki shirts already, huh doesn't look too awful, yeah fuck the good looking uniforms, black and tan it is.
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>>34842127
nigga fix the exposure on your camera and maybe try focusing it once in a while
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>>34844589
>americans were too stupid to cut a vent in the back so that the suit can actually move with you and be taken in at the waist properly.

Unless you're buying your suits off the rack from a department store you're going to get a vent and even then you're still likely to get a vent. Ventless jackets are either bottom of the barrel cheap ones or a specific style of double breasted.
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>>34844656
That's an old picture dude. Probably taken with a real film camera.
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>>34828880
>100% aircraft crash rate

Nah brah need aircraft maintenance from the USAF
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>>34844597
AFROTC grad here, we got rifle and pistol quals as well.
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>>34844686
>Probably taken with a real film camera.
you have even fewer excuses then because you probably have more options with most film cameras than you do with a cheap smartphone camera that doesnt even have a real focusing lens or aperture on it

>>34844664
im talking about Historical Times my man, these were indeed mass-produced suits for export and off-the-rack sale, and of course suit quality has improved since as have all other consumer goods. that style of cut still exists, though, and is notably American
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>>34844381
I'm pretty sure it is plastic prop.
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>>34830705
*Sabaton plays in the distance*
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>>34828791
Agree. Capes need to make a comeback.
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>>34844589

>you overestimate the fashion sense of yankees

I'm American, I made that post and I'm far from a fashionista. It takes a special level of design by committee stupidity to create something as ugly as that uniform.
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>>34844589
>it's also not even a real unit

>Fought in both World War and Two. Has an entire rifle company.
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>>34844473
Sperg more, that's a navy operational uniform, not a dress uniform.

One google search could have prevented you from looking this retarded.

Also as a current serving CAF member, our pants do suck, but our jackets look chic as fuck my nigga. Where's your sense of style?
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>>34844397
What's the basis for them going on strike?
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>>34844908
>It takes a special level of design by committee stupidity
welcome to the military

>>34844922
>i-i read the wiki page, t-this unit is totally operational and dresses in ridiculous red shit to go to the grocery store!!
you are reaching really hard
and protip: they still look better than muhreenz and us army

>>34844992
>that's a navy operational uniform, not a dress uniform
nigga thats what i said, theyre combats:
>even other countries NORMAL COMBAT UNIFORMS are nicer than yours

>Also as a current serving CAF member,
the baby blue is mod as fuck though, I dig it

navy gear will always be more appropriate for the dinner party though
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>>34845013
I dunno I'm not a cop. I think it has to do with pensions or something.
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>>34824354
old fucks want to leave their mark on the military despite not actually having done anything
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>>34845027
It is a nice blue shirt, but you hardly ever see it.

Also CADPAT is nice. We look dope in it.

You probably circlejerk Flecktarn, right?
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>>34844397

Is someone throwing Picachu on those cops?
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>>34845127
>It is a nice blue shirt, but you hardly ever see it.
wtf it is literally the day-to-day dress for the navy instead of cadpat

we dont even get issued cadpats and when we do we usually have to give them back at the end of whatever we got issued catpat for
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>>34845127
I'm army. I see one girl at the mess every now and then in navy combats, that's it.

All my navy buddies are posted where there's water and there aint no water here.
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>>34844413
As a pog who hasnt touched their asu since ait graduation ~2 years ago i can asure you the jacket is not green, it's 100% black, and camera might not show it but in sunlight the jacket *almost* looks like it has a hint of dark blue
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>>34824274
how to fix the shit AF uniforms:
Dress Uniform coat
stand-collared, 4-pocket quarter length, with belt. similiar to the proposed revision but in a lighter navy so it doesn't look like an imperial star wars costume. Add sleeve stripes for officers and service stripes for enlisted.

pants
get rid of woman's skirts and take pants in 1 inch for both sexes, otherwise stay the same

headgear
get rid of stupid banana woman's flight cap and sew up flap in standard flight cap. allow everyone to be wear it in heritage "crushed" style instead of just pilots. require wheel cap for full service dress.

cold weather gear
issue wool singlebreasted topcoat with stand collar to match service coat instead of stupid soviet looking current issue. epaulettes and loops with rank insignia

footwear
explicitly allow polished boots, keep dress shoes, keep reg for combat jobs to blouse dress pants

get rid of princess cut woman's shirts and short sleeve men's dress shirts, keep everything else the same
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>>34824274
The Army needs to bring back tan service uniforms
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>>34845945
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>>34845945
no.

there need to be 3 basic uniform.s

>dress uniform - used for all those formal occasions. modifactions based on you wearing the coat, sweater, overcoat, or just the shirt.
>combat uniform - used for anything but formal events and PT. add or substitue items as needed to suit environment.
>pt uniform - physical training, medical, sleeping in the field when you can do that sort of thing. for the love of god get rid of the black shirt. just use one of the ACU undershirts.
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>>34845828
pic related

>>34846171
good luck convincing the marine corps and navy to give up their dozen or so dress variations. dress uniforms also have various levels of formality too that correspond to informal and black/white tie civilian dress codes
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>>34824289

this

we had the 4-bellows pocket jacket with a belt as the replacement jacket. just delete the belt and we're good. CSAF T Michael Moseley essentially wore one in retirement... though he got hit with the Minot nuke scandal so it might not be the best to imitate him too closely.

>>34826024

it looked more like the Empire from Star Wars to me.

>>34826193

flight caps only look good when they're crushed and crumpled from being under you g-suit. i lost my flight cap that i had from OTS through my first few months of being a Captain and i miss it every time i put on my non-sweat stained, beat to hell, silver trim scratched off by my flight suit zipper cap.
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>>34829781

fighter squadrons are well-stocked with booze. you can only drink when the beer light is on, which is after the last takeoff of the day.
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>>34846304
>it looked more like the Empire from Star Wars to me.
that's because they picked a really dark navy. a lighter color would help quite a bit. The cheap looking belt doesn't help either
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>>34833740

you can't make out his badge, but you can see the giant cop shield.
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>>34846385
jesus christ, at least get that female jacket tailored so the waist isn't bunched up.
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>>34846385
and someone tell that fucking officer that things that pin to the epaulets need to pinned all the way through. so they sit flat.
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>>34846425
women's suit coats really require vertical darts to facilitate the hourglass shape
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>>34846456
pins in epaulets are nonsensical to begin with. the entire point of them is to allow loops or shouldboards
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the most asinine thing ever, is no breast pockets on female dress uniform jackets or shirts. so everything has to be lined up and pinned on the bust line of the clothing item as it is worn. making it fucking nearly impossible for females to get dressed alone.
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>>34846497
and you really should go with a heavy shoulder board instead of a light sleeve epaulet.

keeps things looking smooth and straight
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>>34844718

probably a cheap disposable camera, or a point & shoot.

>>34845828

sleeve stripes are gay. leave that to the navy and the RAF

and without crushed caps for fighter pilots, what will chiefs be angry about? they'll die if they don't have minor uniform issues to bitch at a random Captain about.

i'm sorta with you with the short sleeve dress shirt. in AETC they were going to make us (flight school students waiting to class up/washouts/graduates waiting to go on to our MWS B-course) go to some joint Navy ceremony... with short sleeve blues, ribbons, and ties. gay af. short sleeve blues with anything other than the minimum makes you look like a Mormon missionary.

the Florida gulf coast is hot as balls to be in long sleeve blues for any longer than absolutely necessary though.
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>>34846548
boards are very formal though. A few pins will make the loops stay down.

>>34846556
>sleeve stripes are gay.
I disagree, stripes are a distinctly miiltary feature, and without them the sleeves look like a corporate suit. I'd like to see service stripes as well because they immediately denote time in service. The ribbon is fucking stupid.

The short sleeve with or without tie looks like hot garbage. and long sleeves are no hotter than ABUs.
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US military could stand to have patches, embroidery, or ribbon on the lapels. like the red ribbons on the brit general.
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>>34846619

rank sleeve stripes are gay, and the AF has rank stripes on your upper arm.

at leas you can roll ABU sleeves/remove the blouse assuming your work area doesn't have some rule against it. i haven't worn ABUs in years though.
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>>34846679
*officer rank sleeve stripes

that's what's homosexual.

after all, that's how the Navy does it.
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>>34846706
>>34846679
well, rank stripes in the navy are only worn by officers anyway, and they don't have sleeve stripes. even a simple band in silver or silver edged black would look much better imo, something like the command officer's uniform, but without all the other silver piping
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When you throw on a beret and jump boots it doesn't look as shit, but then again everything looks better when you're high speed as shit.
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>>34846761

it's already on officer dress uniforms.

there's a thin dark blue braid for O-1 through O-6 and a thick one for general officers.
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>>34846827
shit, you're right. I stand corrected
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>>34844004
Marines don't have that button, we have to eyeball that shit perfectly or else we'll get hazed
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>>34824274
revert all dress uniforms back to 1945 standards.
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The Army had great uniforms for a while in the 1902 regulation dress blues. Honestly these were probably the best uniforms the US Army had for dress. Simple but sharp.
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>>34847478
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>>34831031
t. Chairman First Class
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>>34846619
>>34846385
>epaulet flaps
>nothing worn on them

can you, like, never wear clothing ever again? you clearly don't understand it
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>>34844617

you are aware that the 1944 model of the uniform was a copy of the british battledress ?
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>>34848570
shitty meme
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I've heard all over that we're supposed to begin transitioning to OCP pattern, but I've personally not been able to find anything on this myself. Anyone know? Tired of ABUs, such an eyesore.

And what is the likelihood of us actually changing our service dress any time soon?
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>>34830705
The USMC used to have a cape in the uniform but its called a boat cloak.
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The marines boat cloak still looks pretty badass
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>>34825916
Likely without. The gators were supposed to help keep water out of the boots, which was obviously a problem in the trenches. They weren't used by the army anywhere else as far as I know.
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>>34834193
Why did the Navy need aquaflage, anyway? Especially since the only place it works is the one place you want to be easily seen. Honestly, the Navy should've stayed with the dungarees.
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>>34849136
argument was it blended in with the paint of the ship since you're constantly repainting it and you'll get paint on your uniform.

which makes me wonder why they only came out with synthetic fabric. you'd think if your uniform is designed around an industrial work center like a ship, you'd have a no-melt, no-drip uniform.
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>>34841728
Please tell me this is true and not just a random zinger.
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>>34844028
>pantaloons

Nigga, get the fuck out.
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>>34849194
Those are jodhpurs you mouth-breather.
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>>34848742
>>34848769
Hivemind?
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>>34848769
The cloak is meh, but the cuff of his sleeve is baller as fuck.
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>>34848646

Show me a pic of the Battledress and the 1944 style uniform and a good source that the latter one was not a copy of of the former
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>>34833244
Is that Ted Cruz on the far left?
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>>34843116
This uniform makes men wet and women hard.
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>make it blue
>change some insignia
>rank on the white shoulder strap for all ranks.
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