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GWG edition
*NO TRAPS ALLOWED*

got it, COG.

old thread >>34835262
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>>34840033
So you post one of these coal burners?
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>>34840047
it doesn't matter is a mongrel fucks nigger.
they are for raping, not caring about.
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> tfw waiting for my parts to hurry up
This anticipation is killing me. What do you do to pass the time besides work?
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>>34840052
That's a pretty edgy opinion from a guy who's life was ruined because he caught feels for a grill.
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>>34840065
Watch lower build videos for 5 hours a day like I did
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>>34840065
Buy a parts kit locally and build a rifle while you wait for your parts kit to come in the mail.
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>>34840069
A white grill

>>34840051
*his
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>>34840033
Not even progun traps?
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>>34840109
>left handed
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>>34840088
Please don't breed.
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>>34840128
oh well she is still a qt
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>>34840109
wtf I like cock now
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>>34840136
i promise i won't

>>34840109
nope
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>>34840139
>not choosing the version without a feminine benis
>>34840166
You ever post your completed "gun rack"
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>>34840166
She posts on /k/ so dont hate on her.
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Before I hit "Place Order", there are no other midlength cutouts on the market except the Centurion C4, right?
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>>34840177
>Doesnt like guns
>Ugly
>Doesnt post on /k/
>Probably a liberal
No thanks
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>not a trap
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>>34840182
why are you posting this question in a trap thread?
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>>34840189
Pedo get out.
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>>34840182
Doesnt troy make one?
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>>34840177
i never made on, i jokingly posted an upside down desk as one but i deleted the pic

>>34840178
that's even more reason to hate on him

>>34840189
gtfo
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>>34840194
Sometimes I wonder.

>>34840209
Yeah but it looks like trash IMO.
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>>34840223
Stop hating on her you faggot.
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>>34840242
i legitimately hate fags and trannies
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>>34840178
Is that Delores?
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>>34840250
self loathing isn't healthy
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>>34840252
Kaitilyn.
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http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-accessories/wolf-a1-upper-detail.html?Itemid=0

Anyone have one of these? Any good?
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>>34840285
Burt has one
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>>34840264
neither is being a degenerate
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>>34840047
Stop shitposting.

>>34840223
What can do you have?

>>34840285
Burto has one. Unfortunately with the lack of availability of wear parts like bolts and barrels they'e a bit more of a novelty than a serious gun. They also don't shoot too straight either. I heard something like an honest 3MOA on the low side.

I like the look though. If I were like Burt and already had all my other AR stuff squared away I would consider one.


Anyone here ever fired a 5.56 Socom Mini?
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>>34840369
I really want to but you cry so fucking much I can't help it.
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>>34840128
>kumiko
Top taste
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Can the shush bill pass so I can have a can already.
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>>34840455
Does your mom know you are posting pics of her on 4chan?
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>>34840447
I haven't been following it at all, but if it were to pass would suppressors be "over the counter" like magazines or would they be regulated like lowers but without the wait and stamp?
>>34840455
>.40
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>>34840487
They would be like mags
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>>34840447
Yeah I dont get why cans arent legal here yet. Even bongs can walk into a gun store and buy one without paper work
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>>34840508
>the possibility of grabbing a blister packaged suppressor off the shelf and walking out with it 2 minutes later
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>>34840570
>Vortex Sparc II deal from PSA, includes 10 PMAGS and a PSA 5.56 Supressor for $600
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>>34840570
Sadly it will never happen since Trump hasnt dont anything for us fun owners
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>>34840595
He hasnt done anything against us either, which is nice. If it had gone the other way we'd be panic buying 5.56 and emailing state reps this morning. Instead we're posting traps......
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>>34840447
Just buy a can you lazy fuck its not even hard.
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>>34840650
Ain't legal in DE
New Castle County fucks us every election cycle, everywhere else is basically rural PA

Is the TA-33 as good as a TA-31 besides eye relief/FOV?

They sell a lot cheaper on the used market
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>>34840668
>Ain't legal in DE
You live in NY and DE, no freedom confirmed

>Is the TA-33 as good as a TA-31 besides eye relief/FOV?
Ounces dudes
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>>34840594
This gets me super... excited.
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>>34840447
You can have a can now. SHUSH may take some time still yet. Anyone have any updates on it?

Won't change my current plans. Buying a can soon.
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>>34840650
Im only 19 so I cant
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>>34840677
I work in NY and live there during the week, but I still have a DE residence and spend my weekends almost entirely in DE
I can have an SBR but no suppressors or MGs
DE is pretty free compared to other places

Is there any workaround for getting a suppressor in a ban state? Like a special federal license or some shit?
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>>34840692
Get older, its even easier. You're doing it right now
>>34840695
>Like a special federal license or some shit?
Yeah its called a FFL
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>>34840702
Do you actually need a storefront to be an FFL these days?
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>>34840702
Yeah but I dont turn 20 till December so I would have to wait a long time.
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>>34840706
No.
But for fun stuff in ban states you may need Class3/SOT/ITAR/demo letters.
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>>34840139
*he
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>>34840706
Kitchen table FFL
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>>34840706
Yes and no.
Knowing DE there is probably a 90% chance that your zoning wont allow you to operate a business from your house.

>>34840708
Form 1 a can
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>>34840720
I live in a small one bed room apartment I dont have the tools to build a can
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>>34840695
>No suppressors or MGs
>Firearms laws more restrictive than the Feds have them.
>Pretty free.

Confirmed for mentally sick. It must be in the water. Cali fags are the same.
Hell even CO fags are like this sometimes, but it is important to recognize the reality of things. We're all cucked to varying degrees unless your state is as free as federally allowed, or even more so like Alaska and that one state down south.
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>>34840177
She won't have a feminine benis much longer though.

>>34840109
That's an AK, my dude
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>>34840736
You dont need a shop to Form 1 a can, you can do it with basic hand tools
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<blogpost> Everybody wants to be a red neck, till its time to do red neck shiat.</blogpost>
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>>34840737
>Can have everything except some NFA items
>Basically california

Hoho, alright big guy, don't you have smokes to sell?
But yeah, I agree, I wish there was a way to directly contribute to the improvement of our freedoms, but the NRA operates like a shitty corporation and good lobbyists are too expensive
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>>34840748
I never said it wasnt.
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>>34840073

I've done this and now I feel confident especially after watching a cross dressing faggot put one together with pliers and a hammer
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>>34840755
>Do meth
>get on medicaid
>work some awful job in some awful town ending up marrying some toothless hamplanet because you knocked her up

no thanks
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>>34840752
Yeah I would rather not have the can blow up on me.
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>>34840762
Hes not making a 1:1 comparison dipshit. He is talking about the attitude where its "WELL ATLEAST I CAN HAVE A SINGLE SHOT 22 SO IM NOT TOTALLY NOGUNZ" . You should be fucking pissed that you cant own anything worth a damn.
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>>34840762
I didn't say it was basically California, but that the attitudes held by yourself and even myself at times are similar to the attitudes held by Californians.

We all rationalize where we live, and rationalize our willful giving up of freedoms we could have if we lived elsewhere. It is disgraceful and disgusting honestly.

What other triggers are out there like the Geissele SD3G?
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>>34840755
>redneck
>no car parts in yard

I bet you have a truck that's never seen a gravel road
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>>34840783
Hah! Yeah you gotta watch out for that shit. But thats a stereotype my wife has all her teeth and no kids for us thank god. And ive actually got a pretty bad ass job.
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>>34840755
Why not just take that shower head off the hose to fill that faster?
>prism behind the iced tea
Damn, you weren't kidding when you said you swap your stuff around all the time

>>34840769
Watch sootch's video from like 5 years ago when he's putting in the bolt catch pin, he rapes his lower with a hammer then says "that'll buff out" later
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>>34840796
You're manufacturing the baffles not the tube that contains them. Do some research you lazy cunt.
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>>34840799
overgassed
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>>34840810
So your not doing redneck shit?
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>>34840813
>anon
>doing research
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>>34840813
Sandman K is more aesthetic and cheaper.
Omega with flat end cap and Keymount is more expensive than a Sandman S, and I'm seeing mixed reviews/problems with the Key Mo on the omega. Plus it comes out to 1" longer than Sandman S, 3oz lighter, but quieter.

Omega with Key Mo is 2oz heavier than K, and 2" longer.

Omega is the quieter can it seems though, but it really would be better to hear in person.

>>34840810
>No kids for us thank god.
Cucked af. Normie politics to go with your normie gun. Makes sense at least.
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>>34840797
I own a 6920 and an SLR104 without any cuck features
I am pissed the state government is the way it is - I hate being told what I can and can't own

What can I do to change things for the better?
I don't want to just complain, I haven't found a way to take action
Just leaving doesn't seem worth it, DE has a chance of going red - we aren't too far gone
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Finished my build
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>>34840842
SiCo also has barrel length minimums
Dead Air is all inconel baffles, and doesn't give a fuck
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>>34840842
>and Keymount
>and I'm seeing mixed reviews/problems with the Key Mo on the omega.
What is the common denominator here?
>>34840843
>What can I do to change things for the better?
Start a local progun organization
>>34840845
I mean it could look worse overall. Move your rear iron further back if possible, i cant tell because you took the worst fucking photo
>>34840858
>SiCo also has barrel length minimums
It doesnt matter since hes doing 14.5
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>>34840819
No so much, I machine weapon parts for a few companies. General Dynamics, FN, Airtronic most recently Hudson and Rolls Royce, not the cars.

>>34840842
What can I say, I like my expendable income and the rifles coming along, Im enjoying the journey. Im starting my workout routine next week, the Dow is rock n, rollin', all in all enjoying life.
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>>34840862
I just might

Is a TA-33 with a .223 reticle usable with 5.56 and vice versa?
Are there notches in the reticle for use with each?
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>>34840858
Sandman S pricing for me is the same as Omega.
Main difference between the two is going to be maybe 2-3dB on the HIGH side with the Omega being quieter. Sandman S is also 3oz heavier. Same length, with Sandman S being slightly shorter after putting a Key Mo on omega.

>>34840862
The mixed reviews have to do with actually getting the Key Mo on and off the Omega can. The mount itself is pretty slick as you admit.

Barrel minimums do matter. Like you said Suppressors are long term purchases.

>>34840883
You sound like a disgusting boomer. Nothing matters unless you pass on your genes and contribute to your society.
Simply floating on the gains of the (((market))) and taking your enjoyment/purpose in life from that is degenerate as fuck. Sort yourself out.
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>>34840845
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Why are these guy sooooooooo good?
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>>34840931
Hurrrrrr
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>>34840903
Ive done quite enough for my community, time for a little me time. I mean at least I dont run around talking about gains and rockn a pencil barrel.
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>>34840931
0/10
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>>34840931

>>34840943
*sniggers*
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>>34840943
Okay I hedge what I said a little. But only a little.
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>>34840931
Fishing for wgws?
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>>34840903
What if you didnt put a keymo mount on your omega? Youre not going to run your can under a rail and you have no dead air products at the moment. You can always add keymo down the line but you cant add asr to the dead air.
>Barrel minimums do matter.
Omega 5.56 limit is 10"
Omega .308 limit is 16"

What are you going to do with those ass tier ballistics ?
>>34840965
Troy stuff is ugly anyway
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Is there any reason to get an Aimpoint PRO over the ACO if I'm a mega poorfag? They seem the same besides the mount and battery life.
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>>34840862
Here's a less underexposed photo.
>>34840917
ok?
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>>34841003
I plan to buy second hand btw. The ACO is like $50-$75 cheaper.
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>>34840974
Key Mo and MD on Omega is another $220. If Sandman S and Omega are the same price at the get go, I should go with the S unless the Omega is that much quieter (it isn't), shorter (it is 0.3" longer with UFO end cap, and 0.7" shorter with flat, and ASR mount, or 0.9" longer with UFO endcap or same length with flat end cap and Key Mo), or lighter (4oz lighter without Key Mo, 3oz lighter after Key Mo).

Barrel minimums don't matter that much I guess. I don't plan on any meme barrel lengths.

Plus Sandman S will be black not FDE, and I like their marketing more which is always something to consider once you start splitting spec hairs the way that I currently am.
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>>34840965
What's happening Matey, you doin anything good today?

Postin my plebian creation.
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>>34841045
What's up, my main man
Thinking of heading down to the pool thanks to you
A toasty 93 right now, maybe a nice sandwich afterwards (end blogpost)
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>>34841028
>Key Mo and MD on Omega is another $220
Then dont fucking do it
>and 0.7" shorter with flat
You saw how much difference 1" did on my omega.
>Plus Sandman S will be black not FDE
Cant argue with this all that much but if you're buying a heavier, louder, longer can for colors then I suggest you think really hard about that
>and I like their marketing more
I'm going to buy you a monster energy drink hat to go with your sleeveless shirts if you think le gasmask man has better marketing than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOaiQSp4Zwc
>>34841014
Looks decent, I would color match stock, grip and handguards. All it needs is a nice dot sight for good fun carbine
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>>34841045
This looks like a DR8C0 rifle
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>>34841097
>This looks like a DR8C0 rifle
Its block dr8c0 mod 1 (note the non lancer L15 lower)

I found AR gold at my local cabelas, can you please educate WGWS about the AR Gold
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>>34841014
Don't let wgws see that rear sight
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>>34841088
Fucking nice, every now and then Im topping mine off with some cold water from the hose.

>>34841097
Unironically it is. Had no idea that through random chance I would clone taco tits rifle. Its a work in progress though, next up are some TD rail covers and a Centurion C4 cutout, skirting an MSD clone with the cutout, lol. It was bound happen eventually, so many ARs and a finite number of configurations.
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>double red dot and a freshly painted NF
Just need to pull out the press and the 168s and today is going to be productive as shit
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>>34841115
kek, he's clearly a hipster DR8c0 admirer. Reproducing his original works.

WGWS: AR Gold da bes.
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>>34841132
Why does it trigger him?
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r8 my gf
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>>34841158
She looks like she is 12. Pedo get out
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>>34841094
I'll be frank Key Mount is a pretty big plus for me at this point.
>You saw how much 1" did on my omega.
Talking about when you went to flat end cap from anchor? Omega is same length as Sandman S if you put Key Mo and flat end cap on Omega.

I seriously think they will sound about the same, with the slight edge going to the Omega. The 3 oz is my main issue. Heavier is not ideal.

Still might just go with the Sandman K.
Very short, very light, very cheap. Obviously the least suppression.

>>34841132
>>34841014
Meh rifle but Troy is a shit company that hires the defenders of federal boots who murder unarmed mothers holding babies. Sound like hyperbole but it is literal fact. Replace rear iron sight.

>>34841115
>Pls stop telling people about DR8CO and L15...
How much is the AR gold?

>>34841134
>Centurion C4 Cutout
Yessss.

>>34841142
Yeah I was reading up on it. Seems solid.
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Just need aadland caps so i can paint the k16i
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>>34841172
It's expensive. I wanna say about $289-$300. Too light for some peoples tastes, it has an excellent reset. The lightweight doesn't bother me because I've shot a lot of precision rifles with nonexistant triggers. It's also adjustable.
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>>34841180
Those are weird lookin ARs
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Hey /arg/, this might not be the place for it. But I just picked up an Aero Survival Rifle. Its an AR style type deal, it apparently AR parts can just snap right on it. I normally keep to older firearms where I don't have any modularity, so I'm a bit out of my element here.

Can anyone recommend a grip, foregrip, stock and a good rail system that'd fit on an AR? Or just recommend some good websites?
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>>34841134
>going from DR8C0 to MSD
You're just a sheep, you can't help it. It's okay, bub.
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>>34841172
I don't give a fuck what the company does.
Why are you so emotionally invested in it?
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>>34841158
Looks like a respectable young lady anon. Assuming shes not a succumbus you better ring that before it gets away, espcially if she can be a bad bitch with guns.

>>34841172
See, I knew we had common ground.
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>>34841203
Post pic?
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>>34841206
17% less oxygen will do that.
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>>34841206
>I don't give a fuck what the company does
You're just as bad as a leftist ethical subjectivist.
>Why are you so emotionally invested in it.
Because Randy Weaver did nothing wrong, the ATF entrapped him to begin with, and then prosecuted him according to the unconstitutional NFA, and then when he didn't bend down to kiss boots they killed his son and wife.
But I guess you could just go do the research yourself, if you cared.
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>>34840033
She looked so cute in the thumbnail... but her face is like a fucking ghoul's.
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>>34841206
Here we go!!!!!!
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>>34841258
>play stupid games with federal agents
>expecting to walk away

Rule of law cares not for your feelings or opinions, and neither do we.
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>LGS doesn't have RC2 in stock
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>>34841246

Its still on the way to my FFL. Looks like pic related, I plan to get a stamp to SBR it at a later date.
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>>34841258
>You're just as bad as a leftist ethical subjectivist.
Got a chuckle out of this mental gymnastics.
So this company is greedy and it got it's hands dirty while trying to dig up some brownie points with the feds. Who cares?
>Because Randy Weaver did nothing wrong, the ATF entrapped him to begin with, and then prosecuted him according to the unconstitutional NFA, and then when he didn't bend down to kiss boots they killed his son and wife.
You break the law, you get firearms involved and you die.
When the law says something about firearms, comply and fight the legislation behind it.
You can't fight the good fight when you are dead.

Don't push your agenda on me. Troy's involvement is marginal at best.
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>>34840065
Dont fuggin care m8 11 months on a stamp and still waiting

Don't get on my level
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>>34841275
This is 25 years ago. Sold a shotgun for $200. Federal agent offers him an extra $5000 to saw it down to 17.5"
Straight entrapment using an unconstitutional law as it stands anyway.
I wouldn't expect a fudd like yourself to get it though.
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>>34840369
>Anyone here ever fired a 5.56 Socom Mini?
yes, it's the same as the regular since neither are hearing safe but because it's smaller, it's obviously lighter, louder, and less blowback
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>>34841320
>You break the law, you get firearms involved and you die
cuck
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>>34840052
I'd love to see you say that to your family or co workers. Faggot ass keyboard /k/ommando doesn't even get some except for some boy pucci he probably paid for.

Lol, stay out of the gene pool bub.
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>>34841322
>"can you cut this shotgun for an extra t grand with a hacksaw?"

Sounds like he fell for the bait, doesn't justify killing a federal agent now does it.
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>>34841347
>doesn't justify killing a federal agent
no but having strangers invade your property and shoot your dog in front of you does
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>>34841322
Offering payment for an illegal act does not meet the definition of entrapment.

Otherwise controlled buys and prostitution stings wouldn't be a thing...
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>>34841347
Weird since he was acquitted of all charges including the original NFA charge due to entrapment. His only guilty verdict was for the original failure to appear.

He literally did nothing wrong as determined by own our sense of morality (or at least mine, you've obviously a bootlicker), and by the court of law.

>>34841371
I don't know the details of the case, but he was acquitted so go figure.

>>34841355
+1
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>>34841347
If that's what actually happened why was Weaver acquitted of all charges? The ATF couldn't even supply into evidence the shotgun they alleged he cut.

The whole thing was entrapment because they wanted to use weapon charges against him to leverage information on people they thought he knew. The whole thing was a joke and the feds got reamed in court over it.
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>>34841347
You probably think Waco was justified too right since they were molesting children?

I've said it once and I'll say it again. Normie fudd casual gun owners make me sick. You deserve to have your freedoms taken from you.
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>>34841320
>You break the law, you get firearms involved and you die.
>When the law says something about firearms, comply and fight the legislation behind it.
>You can't fight the good fight when you are dead.

Randy Weaver isn't dead. In fact, Weaver, his daughters, and Kevin Harris were all awarded cash settlements by the government. Harris was acquitted.
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>>34841397
His wife and son were killed though. He surrendered or he would have been killed as well.
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>>34841346
>stay out of the gene pool bub.
jesus, pay attention, i've already said i will like 10 times.
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>>34841397
>In fact
The only people who support the Feds, Troy, Lon, or Dale are those that either don't know the facts, or chose to willfully ignore the facts because it is easier than dealing with the cognitive dissonance of remaining a subject/citizen of a government that murdered two of its citizens amid an attempt to subvert constitutional rights.

>>34841411
The living or dead status of his wife and son have no bearing on the argument.
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>>34841382
>I don't know the details of the case

No surprise there.
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>>34841411
You aren't really making a good argument for the federal government.
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>>34841430
>Feds pretend to be broken down motorists in order to arrest a good man.
>Good man decides to stick to his morals and not appear for court for an unconstitutional charge.
>Wife and son are murdered as a result.
So I've got more details now, and they only strengthen my case.

>>34841442
Lel that is pretty funny.
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>>34841203

pls reply ;_;
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>>34841426
god damn you're an annoying cunt

can you do us a solid and go pick a fight with the ATF already and have them put you out of our misery
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>>34841442
jej

WGWS is a colossal fag but he's not wrong. Troy are fags, their business model is shit (basically relying on their fed contacts for limited ITAR export licenses, selling their overpriced junk in Canada and Europe) and everything else aside, they mostly copy other designs and quality is bare minimum.
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>>34841474
Nice carpet
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>>34841501
t
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>>34841442
Pic realtor.

>>34841465
The Weaver case makes my blood boil to the point of insurrection.
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>>34841478
it's for chuckles. relax guy.
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>>34841426
You need better reading comprehension. It obviously does apply they died as a result of Randy's actions.
Whether or not the deaths were lawful is beyond my point.
>>34841433
Excuse me, I was never "on the side" of the gov't. I was just stating that it's better to follow the law and fight the legislation than die (or have your family die) in a hopeless fight with the law.
>>34841394
>You deserve to have your freedoms taken from you
You call me a liberal then you call for the removal of someone's constitutional right as a result of their opinions?

Basically see post below.
>>34841474
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>>34841474
He's not even fit for service, what makes you think he would fight dog killers?

He's just a good case for not allowing bad genetics to continue being dumped into the gene pool.
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>>34841514
>you need better reading comprehension
>doesn't get along with wgws
>has a basic ar
>newfriend

Holy shit are you me? Am I multiplying?

YISSSSS
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>>34841532
>what makes you think he would fight dog killers?
because he's retarded

>>34841545
>Am I multiplying?
stop
STOP
we need any more cordans god fucking damn it
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>>34841465
>unconstitutional charge

I know I will never convince you that there may be more to this than you perceive, but I'll leave you with a golden tidbit for your time.
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>>34841545
We havent confirmed if he is into traps/cuck porn so we arent 100% sure yet
>>34841551
>we need any more cordans god fucking damn it
CONTAINMENT BREACH
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>>34841532
>>34841551
WGWS has also stated that he got plates just in case he was to get shot during his drills and training with his buddies, which has also happened a few times. Apparently NDs are common around him.
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>>34841566
his friends should try a little harder
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>>34841545
I'd prefer to not become a cancerous meme, thanks.
I've been here for years. I just got a new camera to take glamour shots.
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>>34841203
(((Magpul)))'s SL might work well for your rifle.

>>34841474
Your rifles have always looked nice, and I sincerely hope that I annoy you less that those who use this general to post sexual deviant content and or blogpost.


Okay enough Troy talk.

Sandman S or Omega 7.62?
After Key Mo, MD, and 5.56 end cap the Omega comes out to $250 more than the Sandman. It will be the same length and about 3oz lighter.

Seems like it will be a little bit quieter as well, but that is hard to tell. Found one test clocking the Omega with 5.56 end cap on a 10.5" 5.56 at 132dB or so.

Sandman S with unknown end cap (so possibly minus 1-3dB) on the same setup was clocking 138dB (but could be as low as 135dB).

Makes me want to get the Sandman K as that will be an honest 1.5" shorter than upgraded Omega, and 2oz lighter, and like $400 cheaper, but will obviously be even louder than the Sandman S.
Probably around 140-143dB with 5.56 end cap on a similarly 10.5" 5.56 rifle.

>>34841514
>You deserve to have your freedoms taken away from you.
Mek is literally arguing that Randy deserved what he got, the murder of his wife and son. I don't think it would be a stretch to respond that Mek in turns deserves at least his some of his constitutionally protected rights to be taken away as a result of such a blatant disregard for the constitutional rights of the Weaver's on his part.

It is simple lolbertarian argument. Deny might rights, you deny your own. Deny Randy's, he denies his own.

>Hopeless fight with the law
>Motivated Oklahoma City Boming and probably secured our current state of 2nd amendment politics.
Pick one and one only.

>>34841532
>Bad genetics

>>34841552
>Golden Tidbit
>Feds trespassing shoot dog.
>Son of sovereign citizen landowner shoots back.
If you think that somehow supports your case then you're bootlicker as fuck.
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>>34841566
>>34841573
We run some pretty quick drills
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>>34841581
you are meme
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>>34841581
>Been here for years
Glamour shots everybody:
>>34840845
>>34841014
You would think with all the years you've been here you could build a better looking rifle and know how to take a better picture of said better looking rifle.

>>34841566
100% reasonable rational if you're actually running and gunning, practicing transitions between strong and support side shooting, fast magazine changes, multiple shooter drills, multiple shooting positions etc.
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>>34841581
>I've been here for years
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>>34840033
Got muh other taupe finally
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>>34841587
Don't attempt to push your opinions on people because of the brand of their rear sights. I mean really.
>Okay enough Troy talk.
I agree. It appears you thoroughly lost the argument in regards to troy.
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>>34841623
Literally don't care.
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>>34841581
Well you almost had a friend. Have fun kiddo.
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>>34841651
He mad

No taupe will do that to someone
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I should buy Troy sights just for fun now.
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>>34841633
>Because of the brand
There is no truly causal relationship between the brand of Troy and my discussion of why you should not buy or continue to own Troy products other than the transitive role that Troy as a brand plays in connecting one's ignorance to or support of the murders and surrounding immorality/illegality that characterized the Fed's actions at Ruby Ridge.
>Thoroughly lost the argument
2/10
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>>34841674
Buy a whole Troy rifle. Name it Vicki.
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>>34841688
Replace the word "connecting" with "establishing".
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>>34841587
>I'm not a retard
>stop shitposting
>stop blog posting
>posts literal text wall
>autistic screeching at Troy parts
>cries about image resolution

You expect me to believe this?
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>>34841587
The events leading to escalation did not justify his actions that led to the death of those involved. If he had shown up for his court date, his family would still be here, end of story. If he hadn't been a hillbilly who didn't understand how the legal system worked he could have got the charges dropped anyway. But he was special and above the rules in his own mind, kinda like you.
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>>34841711
Why Vicki?
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>>34841731
Vicki Weaver, the woman who got shot in the head by the ATF while she held her child.
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What's the best length of handguard for 16" barrel? and why is it 12"?
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>>34841760
13"
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>>34841760
Wrong it's 15
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>>34840033
>>34841260
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>>34841737
wew that's edgy. They do have something I want tho.

https://worldoftroy.com/product/guu-5p/
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>>34841760
13-13.5
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>>34841779
Buy it
Name it Vicki
Or just say you named it vicki to upset your little jew buddy.
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>>34841760
13"
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>>34841794
If I name a rifle, it's name is going to be plastered on it somewhere.
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>>34841807
Or call it Adolf, I really don't care.
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I'm feeling happy today. Would it be possible to not change that?

Much appreciated!
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>>34841779
>that barrel profile
Shiggy diggy pina colada.
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>>34841779
I have one. Build quality is shit, I suspect it's reject parts kludged together for a quick buck. Either that or Troy picked up some of Century's drunken monkeys.
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>>34841770
>>34841790
>>34841805
I want to replace 15" kmr, what would you recommend? I'm kind of lost between larue or ris II quads
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>>34841825
What upper is that on the top rifle?
You got good taste
>>34841840
You gonna sell the KMR?
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>>34841825
I'm glad the 90s are dead. That was a shit decade.
Oregon will become California 2.0 in 5 years.
Your cat is ugly.
Your Hudson will have rust on it.
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>>34841850
Wolf A1
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>>34841840
Geissele MK8 13"
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>>34841840
>KMR to quad rail
That's quite the change. Whatcha gonna put on all those rails?
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>>34841850
depends if i go low on cash, I may keep it for my 18" upper
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>>34841817
3edgy5me

>>34841826
Yea that is kinda disappoint, it's also 1k for a 500$ rifle lol

>>34841836
That's suck ass...
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Got Troy sights on rifle. what do?
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>>34841871
>1k for a $500 raifu
It is disheartening to see mfgs do things like this when you dig deep and find the real price for things. Like the FN mil series is really like a $700 carbine and $900 rifle for twice that.
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>>34841892
Get an optic
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>>34841892
Leave them.
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>>34841871
>That's suck ass...

Yup. It basically hits all the points I was looking for in a lightweight KISS rifle. Oh well, once I replace the trigger it'll make an okay loaner rifle for when I take noguns shooting. Or I might just cannibalize the lower because A1 lowers are impossible to find right now.
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>>34841901
An M4 should cost like $500 max
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>>34841716
My image resolution is fine.
Discussing Troy is more AR related than blog posting about your life or your pornographic preferences.
Walls of text are fine if you're not retarded and easily frightened by a lot of words.

>>34841825
I'm worried the Sandman S and or K will be a lot louder than A2s Omega and then I'm gonna have some ragrets.

>>34841892
Replace. Griffin Armament makes some neato ones that I'm considering for my next build.


Guys /pol/ is popping today. Check it out.
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>>34841864
idk m8, i just like the look of quads, it is my whim truth be told. I best keep kmr or wait for bcm mlok rail
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>>34841901
dude that shit killed me.
>oh hey my old musket from back in the da- holy shit it's $1700 what the fuck?!

>>34841916
This hurts please stop telling me about it.
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>>34841929
They neat but I'm also looking at mbus pros as well
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>>34841930
Well, my advice is that unless you need a quad rail, don't get one. That's just my opinion though.
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>>34841929
I never talk about my life or porn that would be your butt budy who fabricated literally everything. You wanna complain about me "shitposting" correct your bro.
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>>34841929
Yeah it is, been awhile since a good happening.
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>>34841960
What the fuck is that mag capacity. Looks way bigger than those 60 round ones.
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>>34841984
Surefire made some 100 round coffin mags.
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>>34841984
100 rounds.
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>>34841950
Spikes also makes some cool ones, but I'm not a fan of Spikes and all their visual marketing with the cringe rollmarks. Quality stuff nonetheless.

These Bobro ones seem cool too.
http://www.primaryarms.com/bobro-engineering-lowrider-buis-set-b46-000-003ss

Aero has a set, and obviously KAC.

MBUS PRO is good to go though.

>>34841962
>Never talk about my life
You were talking about how you would move out of state but can't because muh significant other look everyone I have a girlfriend literally the other day?
I think you post more reaction/meme images than actual images of rifles. At least half and half but probably worse.
Stop shitposting.

>>34841974
I think it is a false flag.
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>>34841988
>>34841990
How awfully do those things feed. Fuggin sweet regardless.
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>>34841993
>protesters throw rocks at cars
>/o/tism flips the fuck out

Nah, I would straight murder every one in that crowd had that happened to my car.
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>>34841943
If I really wanted to hurt you I'd dig out my phone and show you the crap ass pin and weld they did. The flash hider isn't straight and the washer is all kinked and twisted to the left. PERMANENTLY.

Or I could take a video of the receiver slop, it shakes like a Frenchman at the sight of a speeding truck. And the shelf behind the trigger assembly is blocked so you can't drop in an accuwedge.

Speaking of the trigger, it's the shittiest trigger I've ever used. Even the notoriously crap ass burst trigger in the M16A2 I used in the Army was better. It's so heavy that I honestly thought I had the safety on a few times.

The finish on the receivers is black paint that will strip down to bear aluminum from light handling, and the I almost ran out of windage adjustment zeroing it.
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>>34841993
I one time said I couldn't move to Alaska because my wife hates it. Wooooooo

You bitch more than I even post.
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>>34841604
>that photo
top fucking kek
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>>34841929
It won't be a lot louder but it might be a little louder. I doubt you'd be able to tell the difference BUT the Omega has that brake thingy that may change how it sounds in comparison.

I can't find hard numbers on equivalent equipment for the Sandman-S but I saw "-30dB for .308" in a video, and that's near as makes no difference what SilencerCo publishes for the Omega too (164dB to 133.9dB = 30.1dB).

The Sandman-S is about the size of a 5.56 suppressor, so with a 5.56 end cap it should be competitive.
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>>34841760
13-14
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>>34842011
Troy needs to die.
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>>34841998
I know the early versions had some issues. Haven't used it much, but will have a better answer once using it with M16
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>>34842011
wow
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>>34840033
Block 1 upper mostly done.

Acog or fake it with PRO?
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>>34842039
Forgot pic
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>>34842039
Comp m2
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>>34842051
>cover on top rail
kys immediately
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>>34842006
Only footage I saw was from way far back. Couldn't actually see any interaction between the car and the protestors. Of course the way the media is portraying it is as an unprovoked vehicular assault. If it was truly that, then I call false flag. Hopefully it comes out that someone hit or threw something at the car.

>>34842018
Glad you like it. Going to try to get a better one next time we're out. No disrespect meant with it obviously.

>>34842019
Sandman is aesthetic as fuck.
Pulled the following numbers from some forum digging but I'm trying not to be a spec/numbers whore and just trust in the company.

K is attractive too because save several hundred dollars and short/small as fuck.

Omega with 5.56 flat cap shooting 5.56 out of a 16" barrel: 128 dB

No Sandman S data for 16" barrel 5.56

Omega with 5.56 flat cap shooting 5.56 out of a 10.5" barrel: 132 dB

Sandman S with unknown end cap (so figure might be high by 1-3dB) shooting 5.56 out of 10.5" barrel: 138dB

Linear extrapolate that the Sandman S with the unknown end cap shooting 5.56 out of 16" would be around 134 dB.

Almost no hard data other than quoted 16" 5.56 mystery end cap 140 dB at the eat by Dead Air when it comes to Sandman K dB data.

>>34842011
>>34842025
Damn.
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>>34842070
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>>34842070
Send him an email you autistic fuck.
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>>34842070
I thought it was one of the photos of the french dude until I noticed your AR. Good job matching the tarp color.
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>>34842070
>>>/r9k/
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>>34842070
Reports that they were throwing shit at a lexus before this car showed up, probably a 20 year old kid who panicked when the crowd swarmed the car.

He will get off light, no problem.
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Twizzlers or Red Vines?
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>>34842109
???
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>>34842083
Doesn't show interaction leading up to the incident.

>>34842087
Send who?
I've already called Dead Air several times. They were really cool but basically admitted the K will be louder than the Omega, which I already knew.

>>34842100
>Good job matching tarp color.
I really just piggyback off of A2's coolness.

>>34842105
Hopefully the driver was genuinely acting in good faith, and the left will flip out and we can get some more happenings in our favor.

>>34842109
Stop shitposting.
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>>34842124
Stop posting so much faggot
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>>34842070
Nevermind, here's one for Sandman-S on 5.56, it's definitely not in the same league as 5.56 bore suppressors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiYq0BdJg9I
23.5dB reduction. Typical reduction shown in Silencer Shop videos for 5.56 suppressors is more like 30dB or better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oJapz1RPjs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_LuHzfzYtc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY6J9lGLHY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGg_nc9-Fic
Even the Specwar-K is (a lot) quieter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ilraa1e44

Specwar 7.62:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GHE-sZTG8Y

That's very disappointing. Sorry dude.

I guess Saker or Omega with Keymount is best. Do that.
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>>34842124
Supposedly he was anti Trump, he ran down the wrong crowd.
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>>34842137
Is the backpressure reduction on the RC2 all it's cracked up to be?
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>>34842155
hahaha I want to believe
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>>34842137
Fuck. Maybe it is because they were doing the testing with the 7.62 end cap? On the high side that might ad another 3dB to reduction bringing the figure closer to 26dB?

Omega with Key Mount really would be ideal. Just a lot more money than I was planning on.

>>34842155
Looks like his car.
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>>34842155
nah, he is a troy employee
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Looking forward to my EOTech on Tuesday, but otherwise this thing is basically done.

Mostly Noveske upper, with the MK8 rail, Toolcraft BCG I already had, and a Raptor charging handle. Lower is an Anderson that I might swap out later on, with the Maxim Defense CQB pistol brace and the heavy JP buffer.
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>>34842159
I don't know but the sound reduction of Surefire suppressors is so shit that I would believe it if they said they prioritized reduction of back pressure.

>>34842182
Most sources say end cap makes little if no difference. Mike Pappas at Dead Air basically said "don't bother buying our end cap." The Omega results are with a 7.62 end cap and they blow most of the competition away.
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>>34841720
Sauce
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>>34842206
I really like it m8.
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>>34842182
Are you actually planning to fire calibers larger than .556mm? Cause dedicated .556mm caliber cartridge silencers are significantly less expensive than the 7.62/9mm bore do-everything models. Like $100-200 cheaper even than the Sandman-S.
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>>34842194
Lel.

>>34842206
I like it.

>>34842208
Yeah but Pappas says that because it increases perceived volume to the shooter because it increases back and thus port pressure. Dead Air's whole thing is reducing back pressure and thus perceived sound to the shooter. Possible why their at the muzzle dB readings are so disappointing.

Omega is fucking top tier when it comes to actual suppression. I want a can that strikes a decent balance. Quiet for the shooter but also for those around since my primary purpose is to enable shooting in national forest land in spots I couldn't shoot at before because of local homeowners complaining about noise.

I am being super autistic about this because I want to get it right. With other firearm purchases resale and flipping is relatively easy, but not with a can.
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>>34842261
Yes. Hopefully in the next year after this next 5.56 build is done, or possibly in the next 2 years after I finish school.
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Got a bite on my M&P, but the guy wants me to ship to TX. How likely is this a scam?
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>>34842277
What happened to the P30s?
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>>34842277
It is, don't do it.
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>>34842284
It turned out to be a .40. I politely declined once I realized that.
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>>34842054
Yeah, that was going to be me faking it with the PRO. I also may sell the PRO and then get a comp m2
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>>34842298
Yikes, also you never said, why are you getting rid of it? Just want something new?
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>>34842155
What is this?
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>>34842277
Trade/money/long range handjob? How is he paying for it?
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>>34842067
I don't have anything at the moment to mount on there. Why not have a cover ya dingus
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>>34842317
Charlotte is protesting the takedown of the Robert E Lee statue.
Antifa counter protested
Antifa anti Trump kid decided to take the fight to the racists.
Drove through the wrong crowd
1 dead 20 injured
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>>34842345
So he ran over antifa instead?
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>>34842355
Pretty much
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>>34842355
Yup
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>>34842317
Ruby Ridge st.
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>>34842376
It's all cute and fun until WGWS ND's into you.
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>>34842356
Mfw
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>>34842262
>I am being super autistic about this because I want to get it right
You should be a little bit but remember that this is just your first silencer. More will come. It is a certainty.

I went through all these thoughts too, and knowing I'd get more eventually I put off the 7.62 until last. .22 and 0.0556" mm were first, and for each purchase I prioritized sound suppression highest, followed by features. I am glad I did.

Shop around for the Omega, wait for some kind of sale or deal. SilencerShop was paying tax stamps not long ago. Sometimes places do big clearance sales when the new models come out.
>CALLE
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speaking of civil unrest
>email from university saying that Richard Spencer is trying to set up an event on our campus
should be good
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>>34842407
>sound suppression and value first
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>>34842399
Really coincides with the fact that the left tends to really kneejerk and instead of gathering information, planning, and preparing just act out and have it massively backfire.
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>>34842155
>young man moves to Ohio, mind starts changing, becomes violent and retarded anti trump babby. Many such cases!
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so, who did what?
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>>34842370
did they take him alive?
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>>34842439
Yep

Mass shooters would be 1000% more deadly if they planned and trained a little other than "let me cram as many guns onto my body as I can"

But I guess it's good they are too emotionally wound to plan anything well.
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>>34842051
gd look at those clamshell blems
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>>34842277
He's probably a police officer too right? Or active and about to ship out?

99% of armslist hits that request shipping are scams.

>>34842298
I got a .40 P30 trade offer on my P226 a while back too lol.

>>34842370
Fucking lel.

>>34842407
>7
The madman.
Thank you. Omega is same price as Sandman S, and both are pretty good deals. Only thing pushing me towards Sandman S over omega is Key Mount. Key Mount seems simpler on and off than ASR. Omega is superior in all other respects as far as I can see.

SiCo has good customer service I assume?

>>34842414
When Milo cam to my campus to speak it was a fucking blast. I miss election season.
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>>34842465
yes
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>>34842454
it wuz dem ebil rayciss!
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>>34842313
Just wanted a P30 or VP9 to go with my P30sk.

>>34842324
He just emailed and said cashier checks. He's ready to drop $700 sight unseen.

>>34842480
Apparently you cant give away .40 P30's anymore. They're out there for about $500 and 9mm's maintain value pretty well.
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>>34842573
>cashiers check
Scam
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driver confirmed antifa
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>>34842480
You can put a keymount on the Omega, thought you knew. Pic related.

SilencerCo has great customer service. So does Dead Air.
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>>34842592
That's what I thought, too. His name is Alex Valdez also. Makes me suspicious.
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>>34842603
gotten like 6 of those on my 2 listings in less than like a month
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>>34842603
If your balls are tingling then tell him USPS money order or cash only, and tell him you will wait 2 weeks until after you cash the money order before shipping. That's what I do when I get a bad vibe; your instincts are very accurate, if it smells fishy it is, buyer or seller.

If someone has a problem with ANY type of payment you request, they are almost certainly a scammer. I pay how people tell me to pay because it makes no difference to a legitimate buyer. Dozens of guns bought over the internet and I've never been burned yet. I've paid via check, money order (some people demand 7-11 or USPS specifically), cash, Western Union, face to face and even PayPal a few times. Whatever they want me to do, I'll do.
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>>34842696
Fucking beautiful
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>>34842631
Yeah. I'm not even going go bother with it

One guy said I could keep the mag carrier and he'd do $400.
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>>34842474
I love that pic.
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Guys why is Tony the Tiger so aesthetic
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>>34842809
Because you're secretly a furry?
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/charlottesville-protests-police-helicopter-crash-10979445

Super 6-1 is down
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>>34842039
PRO, CompM2 a shit and nobody will care or look that close at your gun

Psi might but psi a shit
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>>34842820
did you hack it's navigation and crash it?
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>>34842820
rest in peace
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>>34842820
Damn I expected that to be a hoax
I'm not sure I can handle all these happenings
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>>34842826
found the abortion cloner
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>>34842833
Well he is the CIA hackivist and programmer of the WGWS Ultra project.
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>>34842833
GPS/ADS-B spoofing is effective against collision avoidance systems in planes/helicopters. I'm not sure if I could take down a helicopter with it but I could complicate the pilot's day.
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>>34842889
Then you could knock it down with your MANPADS and blame FA for being a antifa commie.
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>>34842889
ok, but can you see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch
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>>34842919
no
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>>34842668
Omega 7.62 or Sandman L 7.62?
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>>34842889
if he's flying instruments only yea, that would basically make a pilot fuckin blind.
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>>34842914
With my frey effect system I can make kids love cinnamon toast crunch
>>34842907
Missile trail would be too obvious, I would probably use something more "careful"
>>34842927
Yeah its trivial as fuck to mess with that sort of shit. It probably was just pilot/aircraft fatigue due to minimal maintenance budgets.

>Cog was actually behind the shoot down
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>>34842926
Yes
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>>34842945
so that's a "no".
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>>34842954
Burt pls
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>>34842966
Both are awesome, neither is bad, both are better at something

So yes.
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>>34842981
burt new threaad
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>>34842981
What're the betterers
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>>34842945
>something more "careful"
Like dumping a mag from your suppressed AR?

According to the reports it was hovering just above some houses before the engine stalled. A couple lucky shots could take it down right?
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>>34842945
Can someone get me really good pics? I can go autistic FAA investigator.
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>>34842993
>hovering just over some houses

He probably hit a power line, that shit happens all the damn time, two pilots I knew hit a power line in 2016 because they were fucking around showboating.
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>>34842851
i don't clone guns, why would I want a clone of a lowest bid mass produced gun?
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>>34841960
Shut the fuck up sigbro
you just don't want other people to stop using keymod so you can keep denying that it's trash

why haven't you killed yourself yet?
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>>34842206
no thanks
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>>34842011

holy shit didn't they give a bunch to to veterans of a raid in Vietnam?




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