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Contract rifles of the post Korean era edition

Previous thread >>35810400
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>>35823462
Not post-Korean, but it is a contract rifle.
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>>35823462
That other thread died kinda fast
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But they still used the No4 Mk1 in Korea, unless I am mistaken.
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Took new pictures of my 03a3.
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First for memes.
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>>35823488
Is there anything special about Chileans? They look like literally the most generic rifle I've ever seen.
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>>35823502
Gotta give her some more love tonight or tomorrow.
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>>35823527
You get the luxury of saying you own a Chilean Mauser.
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>>35823499
To my knowledge that is correct, OP is a 1955 Fazakerley mk2
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>>35823534
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>>35823527
All rifles are special in their own way!
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>>35823527
They have cool rear sights, and they are cock-on-close, if you're into that kind of action.
>>35823540
True, the crest is pretty cool looking.
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Also new M95 pictures.
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Shooter grade star BM from AIM. Very little wear, bore is just dirty. Not bad for $250 shipped and transferred.
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>>35823626
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>>35823639
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>>35823627
>tfw used handguns are impossible to order in your state
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so I have to wait till I get home to inspect it but it appears my rear sight on this CE 44 k98 may have been sanded down or turned down on a lathe, how would /msg/ advise I go about removing it?

I was thinking just try the standard heating to melt the silver solder and then hitting the sight now turned tube with a rawhide mallet.
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Am I the only one who finds Enfields ugly
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>>35823680
I’m trying to “restore” it as much as possible, not for monetary purposes but just because it’s wrong and I’m going to make it right.
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>>35823670
>tfw still to young to buy handguns
With today, I've still got two more years to go.
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>>35823689
No. I pass them up constantly, I also hate the British.
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>>35823689
I did too for the longest time. But like a woman, they grow on you.
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>>35823462
Would a 1956 FTR No.4 count? Other than that it's just the pinger.
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>>35823706
You can buy handguns anon, just dont get caught
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>>35823724
Sure why not. Picked up the HRA, let me see your barrel again I think this one might be an LMR barrel too
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>>35823743
But that's against the law.
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>>35823818
In MI you can buy a handgun over 18 but under 21 in a private sale
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>>35823883
If you manage to find a willing seller.
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>>35823883
Fucking sucks that I live in Oregon then.
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>>35823903
I've sold a pistol to an 18 year old, they have to have a permit to purchase so there is no risk on your end
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>>35823949
I know, doesn't mean finding a seller isn't easy. Boomers are dumb as shit and hate anyone under 50.
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>>35823075

This one? I mean it fades to dark, but it's just the finish I think.
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>>35824083
Sorry I'm dumb. The Mauser on top with the moon runes
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>>35823788
Awesome.

Sorry, looks like I deleted it off my phone. I'll get you a picture when I get home tonight. That's weird how yours being I think 6 months newer than mine, has the IHC draw number.

I've had little luck finding a Savage stock for the Mk1*. Only one I've found is $50. I also need the correct bayonet.
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>>35823991

>25
>fudds still give me shit for buying guns

They always get pissy if I comment about how they're ripping people off (such as $650 for a "Mitchel's Mauser" M48) or if I show dislike for their "modifications" such as a totally butchered Mosin I saw last week.
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I just picked up a 1944 AVT40, its all matching tula.

Any idea what its worth (murrica)?
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>>35824131
How does the stock differ?

Yeah I guess the LMR barrels showed up kind of all over the place in the HRA production period. It has the punch mark in the loop of the P, like yours, which signifies that it was installed at the factory not rebuilt. Also it is marked HRA 4-55 as well. If only I could find a correct IHC for as cheap as I picked this one up...IHCs arent even that rare anymore but the prices are still inflated
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>>35824138
They definitely don't like when you point out similar guns for $500 cheaper on gunbroker.

But I generally try not to be a asshole. Never know when I might find something I want from one of them.
>>35824154
>AVT
Let's see some pictures.
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>>35824124

That also fades to black, it's not in spectacular shape in general (lots of parts on the bolt are loose) but it's not easy finding a CKS rifle.
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You know the worst part about that butchered M39 in the last thread was? He has another one. He said he tested the gun with a different bolt.

I think it's time the /k/ommandos live up to our names...

>>35824154

A lot.
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>>35824200
Ah, just the chip and the angle made it look like a chink tried open fire cooking with the end of the rifle.
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>>35824196

I always try to avoid making comments, but sometimes they just push it to a ridiculous levels by claiming that it's a "great deal" or so on.

>We're a mom and pop store we can't compete with online prices!
>That's why we sell Tula .223 for 40 cents a round!

Don't even get me started on new guns instead of milsurp. They wanted $1,000 for a synthetic stock Mini 14 for example.
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>>35824190
>How does the stock differ?
It has the Savage "S" stamp. Since the the gun is completely correct except the milled rear sight and stock. I feel obligated to correct it.

Good luck with the IHC. Maybe your guy will run across one.

>IHCs arent even that rare anymore but the prices are still inflated
Fudd tax from farmers that drive IHC tractors maybe?

I wonder if you could build a correct IHC from the parts out there.
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>>35823680
plz help
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>>35824323
Ah I see. Where are they stamped S? mk2 enfields have an S on the top of the butt just ahead off the plate.
>Fudd tax from farmers that drive IHC tractors maybe?
For a long while they were very scarce, but then CMP put a bunch of them out. Last time at camp perry they had at least 12 IHC's up for about $1000. No idea how correct they were. There are a lot of IHC parts floating around, wonder how much you'd have to spend to get a CMP one corrected.
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>>35824196
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>>35824233
I usually just walk away, but if they try the hard sell... I have a tough time not being an asshole. I understand things being more expensive in person and I don't mind that within reason, but $650 for a M41 Carcano? $3800 for a G43 (without a mag)? $9000 for a fucking Steyr USR? Get the fuck outta here.
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>>35824375
The asshole took the plum finish off the bolt. Other than that it’s in perfect shape. Stock matches all of the other parts as well.
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>>35824375
That's a AVT stock. Most SVTs got them during refurb. A refurb SVT will go for around $1300ish.
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>>35823949
>permit to purchase
C U C K S T A T E
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>>35824398
Yes it’s an avt stock. But the A on the stock is the only markings that signifies an AVT from a SVT and the stock itself matches the rifle.
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>>35823670
>tfw handguns are easy to order but all the FFLs charge $40 or more for a transfer.
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>>35824427
Force matched bro
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>>35824362
Under the wrist, behind the trigger guard. The S you are referring to is the "S" for small sized stocks. Long stocks were marked with "L" and normal lengths were typically not marked.

If you had the correct barreled action, my guess would be ~$600 for the major components.
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>>35824449
Not him but i don’t thinj they forced matched stocks, only metal parts.
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Got an all matching Gustafs M96 for $450. Did I do alright /k/?
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>>35824482

Not amazing, but not terrible either. I was offered an M38 for $450 on Saturday.
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Long Swiss reporting in

G1911, 1918 dated, P marked for 45
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>>35824507
Eh, well as long as I didn't do terrible then I feel alright.
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>>35824554

Short Swiss reporting in. Remember that girth is just as, if not more, important than length.
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>>35824482
Date? $450 is on the high side of value range but not out of the ballpark. Swedes seem to be holding steady in price for the last 5 years or so; maybe they'll be the next rifle to bubble.
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>>35824564

Do the numbers match? How's the bore?
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>>35824573

I do wanna get a K31 to go with my G11, the 11 doesn't fit in the big flight case, its a couple inches too long.
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>>35824564
However much you spend on a Swedish Mauser you'll always be getting a good deal for the money when considering the sheer quality of the things. But if you spend more than other people it simply means they're getting a better deal than you.
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>>35824482
You got a fair deal.
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>>35824471
I wanted to say you were wrong. But I’ve never seen electropencil on a stock.
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>>35824609

I need to get a couple ultra-long cases.
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>>35824554
I can do that.
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>>35824674

I've got one that's long enough for my Remington M91 and the G11 but its not a case I'm comfortable flying with. I have a pelican 1750 I use when I go west to visit family.
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>>35824587
>>35824588

It's dated 1907. All the numbers match on it. The bore is in excellent condition, nice and crisp rifling.
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>>35824711

Not bad, mine's a 1904.
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>>35824711
>It's dated 1907. All the numbers match on it. The bore is in excellent condition, nice and crisp rifling.
You did fine then. If anything m/96 infantry rifles are under-valued at the moment.
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Pointy things are nice too
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>>35824739
>Undervalued
For some reason they're higher around here than anywhere else. I've only seen one under $450, most go for $500+, and I bought it.
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>>35824850
How much can I expect to pay for an SMLE bayonet? I don't really care if it's repro or original (whatever's cheaper) as long as I can actually get it on and off my gun relatively easily.

And is there any way to make the Mosin bayonet easier to work with? I want to put mine on but I'm afraid I won't be able to get it off and it won't fit in my car or gun case with the bayonet attached.
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>>35824871
Well wouldn't it be safe to say that actual Oberndorf am Neckar Swedish mausers would be worth more?
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Ok, I have pictures to show you.
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>>35824894

I got mine off Southern Ohio Gun a while back when they had a bunch of rough ones for 40$, I've seen several for 100-150 and up recently. Repro will def be cheaper but I don't know who, if anyone, makes them. I'm sure someone does just haven't looked into it.

As for the mosin bayonet, mine has no serial and has refurb marks so its nothing particularly valuable, plus I paid 5$ for it. I took a dremel and very carefully opened up the part that goes over the barrel to a point where it was a very snug fit but was still able to be removed.

Have you actually tried attaching yours? If it doesn't want to come back off just use a rubber mallet, it'll go.
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>>35824930
Here is the other side.
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>>35824945
Whatever this is called.
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>>35824957
The crest.
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>>35824871
I paid $300 for mine and I hemmed-and-hawed for 5 minutes because the bolt had been turned down.

>>35824945
>>35824957
>>35824968
Model 1891 Engineer's carbine.
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>>35824968
The bore, it looks ok, I think, I don't really know.
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>>35824934
>Have you actually tried attaching yours?
Not too hard because I'm afraid I won't be able to get it off. The furthest I've put it on is as far as it will go before you turn it, and it's pretty snug on there. I'll have to try the dremel and mallet idea.

Now I just need to find a range that'll let me do a bayonet charge.
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>>35824980

Looks fine to me
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>>35824980
And here it is stripped down, the rifle was really dirty.
I couldn't take off the handguard because they're held in with wires and I don't have any to replace it.
Also, the magazine is neat.
Thank you for your time.
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>>35824996

It's meant to be snug, if it'll go that far without getting stuck it'll twist and latch without much issue
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>>35824894
>>35824996
>tfw you have the numbers-matching bayonet for your mosin.
>tfw it fits on easily and comes off with no problems.
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>>35824461
Interdasting. Well I'll probably make a trip to CMP after the new year, see if I can find a tractor pinger that has a correct barrel and go from there. Even IHC stocks command a premium so we'll see if correcting it is really worth my time and money.
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I have a matching spanish 1893 mauser with literally no stock. Should I replace it with the stock on my 1893/33 turk mauser or no?
What do 1893 spanish mausers even go for nowadays?
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>>35824897
Yes, but I only paid $220 for it. I meant in general they all sell high
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>>35825137
Hm any story behind that? I'm a little jealous of having paid $230 more for mine
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>>35825129
>I have a matching spanish 1893 mauser with literally no stock. Should I replace it with the stock on my 1893/33 turk mauser or no?
No; buy it its own stock.
>What do 1893 spanish mausers even go for nowadays?
I bought my post-War refurb for $250 a year ago. Original matching examples are more expensive; German and Belgian-made Spanish M93s even moreso, and Spanish Civil War captures at the top of the heap.
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>>35824894
About $100 is probably average but they come up for sale for less.

Also, don't be afraid to make an offer. A seller on eBay had a 1917 bayonet listed for almost $250 but he took a $60 offer. It's probably worth almost twice that.
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>>35825035
I have the matching bayonet for my arsenal refinished mosin. I think it's one of maybe three parts on the damn thing that weren't force matched by the arsenal.
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>>35825208
That anon said in an earlier thread that he found it at Cabelas marked down as another Mauser type other than what it really was, so he got super lucky.
>jealous rage intensifies

>>35825308
The only thing that isn't matching on mine is the butplate of all things. Everything else is original.
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This just arrived at my FFL earlier today, going to be picking it up next week when I get back in town.
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>>35825291
>greedily rubs hands together
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>>35825340
I was being hyperbolic. On mine it's the buttplate, and magazine floorplate that are force matched. The bolt is matching.
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>>35825350
When's PPU gonna start making French pistol ammo? Those 1935 pistols are sweet but not very valuable at the moment.
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>>35825208
Like >>35825340 said they had it labeled wrong at Cabela's so I swooced right in and got it. I'm not sure why or how they labeled it wrong but it was.
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>>35825411

I've seen quite a few mislabeled things at Cabela's.

>tfw friend got a Finn capture mosin for $200 at a Cabela's
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>>35824471
Yeah you're wrong. Stocks were sanded down and re stamped with the new serial number. You can often find the hint of a Tula star on the wood of an otherwise entirely Izhevsk rifle that has a matching numbered stock for example.
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>>35825429
>everyone talks about finding great deals at cabelas
>stuff marked wrong, or just fair prices
>cabelas in my state always seems to "know what they have" and nothing is ever cheaper than about 20% above fair market value
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CMP Garands still worth it these days?
The end seems nigh...
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>>35825702
I want to know more about the guns being returned from the Philippines. That'll increase their stock a ton for a while.

But in general, any surplus deal should be jumped on sooner than later. A few years ago CMP Garands were $550.
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>>35825702
Service grade at $730 from CMP is about the best deal you cant get for an M1 these days

>>35825722
GCA said they're optimistic about CMP getting them, but the DoD would have to buy them. Really nice Garands over there, all SA and they look to be mostly WW2 era and unmolested. SN's as low as 3 digits.
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Are Universal M1 carbines any good? My Lgs has one for 400 and one for 600
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>>35825899
Hot damn. Sounds like a little waiting is in order.
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>>35824894

Paid $70 for mine.
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>>35825899
The Philipino Garands are US military aid. Nobody would have to buy anything. We own them.

The Korean rifles are another matter. Those'll probably be imported privately.
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>>35825593

I've only been to the Cabela's here a couple times and other than SKSes they have nothing of interest.

>>35826029

IIRC the DoD thinks that the Korean ones are aid that should be returned as well, but the Koreans disagree and the DoD doesn't care enough to make it an issue.

They're being imported by Century if they ever fucking get started on it.
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>>35826087
Details on Enfield?
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>>35825994
http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/eligibility-requirements/

turn around has been really fast lately.

>>35826029
Ah, yeah, I dont know why my brain read Korean. Apparently the flip ones are really beat to hell so I haven't been paying much attention to them. IIRC CMP has the go ahead to receive them, they're just waiting to actually receive them.
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>>35826115

Remington, 225000 block, paid $700.
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>>35826148

Someone take off all the sling hardware? How's it shoot? I've never owned one so I'm curious how it compares to more common milsurps.
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>>35824980
woo, crummy mosin bore photos.
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>>35826243

Haven't shot it, bolt's super sticky so it probably needs a good cleaning.
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>>35826255
But the second one is a Mauser bore.
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>>35826255

Sure!
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I was at a client's today who has a small gun collection. Some interesting olde milsurp. He doesn't know much about the guns, but he's getting senile so he forgets every time I tell him what they are. Doesn't want to sell either.

-Trapdoor 1884 with a rod bayonet
-US-something musket
-Mauser 1893
-Haenel sporting carbine made out of a gew88
-Grandpa Nambu
-Mauser pocket .25
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>>35826412

Get in good with the family.
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>>35825096
Here's a couple IHC op rods. Only $215 each.

https://www.ammogarand.com/m1gaeaihcopr.html
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How good is wolf 9x18? I got some to go plinking with my new makarov and wonder if it is as dirty as the rest of the russian steel cased stuff I have shot.
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Newest member of the family
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>>35826776
Some one eBay too, gotta get an IHC rifle before I buy one.
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>>35826850

I too wish to know this. I need some Mak food.
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>>35826850
all russian caliber stuff is dirty, but it all works good.
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>>35826898
Are they cheaper? I found a bolt for $200. I guess it's good that the parts are out there if need be.
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>>35826945
This guy has a bunch

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-US-GI-M-1-Garand-oprod-op-rod-operating-rod-D-6535382-IHC-6535382-D6535682/361989374490?hash=item54483f821a:g:jCAAAOSwlY1ZJewW
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Coworker wants to sell a '69 no name m39 for $500. Is this a fair deal?
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>>35826850
All ammo is dirty bruh. Just buy what’s cheap.
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>>35826945
peep that BIN

https://www.ebay.com/itm/M1-Garand-Barrel-Genuine-USGI-LMR-Early-International-Harvestor-IHC-10-53/172973708854?hash=item2846095636:g:UOsAAOSwUoNaBdai

>>35826999
Fair-ish. I think thats about what sweaty ben was selling them for when he had em
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>>35826850
I tried Wolf 9x19 in my Sig P6 and not only was it dirty, it wouldn't cycle the slide all the way back.

Also tried Brown Bear in my AR and the shit was fucking corrosive.
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>>35826999
$500 for a Sneak Mosin is a good deal, see if he'll throw in some war eagles.
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Aren't Wolf the guys who use wrong sized bullets for their .303?
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Well my bayonet shipped today. Now I just need the rifle.
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>>35826137
Isn't the Korean batch a colossal amount of M1 Carbines with only a few Garands? Not that I'm complaining, I want a smol M1 not a pinger.
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I have an all numbers matching '43 mosin sniper, it has the original serial number crossed out and holes bored then plugged in the receiver for a scope, should I go through the trouble of putting a pu scope on it, it will do 1 moa groups and I suspect better we're I a better shooter.
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>>35827152
IIRC GCA said about 5k Garands, no idea how many carbines
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>>35827036
>$1,000
Holy shit.

Here's my barrel senpai.
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>>35827152

87k Garands, over 800k carbines.

>>35826999

I'd do it.
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I'm kind of torn. I'm concerned that WA, being a blue state, is gonna get an AWB soon since the Dems just gained control of the government. With that in mind I feel like putting a repro AR-15 or M14 at the top of my list so that I can get one before anything like hat drops. On the other hand both of those are gonna be expensive and prevent me from buying any 'surp for a while.
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>>35827098
Yes
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how to CMP?
I have a need to ping
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>>35827422
Damn. So PPU is the cheapest realistic option?
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>>35827447
>spoonfeed me plox

http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/eligibility-requirements/
http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/ordering-information/
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>>35827405
>You build your AR and M14
>They pass an AWB
>It's like Massachusetts where they retroactively rule owners of guns before the ban to have committed a felony
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>>35827447

...

Go to their website and read.

Pic unrelated.
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Alright lads, finally locked down my all matching C prefix ZAR blockade 93 Mauser. Walking away with her for 350 CAD because the dealer thought she's a normal chilean '95.

She's no beauty queen, but for the price i'm laffin'
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>>35827275
Dude were like HRA bros
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>>35827461
https://ganymede.meccahosting.com/~a0000ae7/aaresult.php?PageId=82
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>>35827471

"My guns had an unfortunate boating accident officer."

I don't trust my mom though, so hopefully such a thing wouldn't happen until I finish the current round of college and get out of here.
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>>35827468
so all I still need is to become a member of a CMP affiliated organization huh
Why does NRA membership not count?
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>>35827491
My buddy has a CMP HRA that has a serial number 3,000 later than mine. I don't think he's shot it either.
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>>35824894
110$ shipped, ebay

you'll have troubles fitting repo ones, they're kinda junk
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>>35827578

Join the Garand Collector's Club. It's like one of those mail-order college degrees.
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>>35827578
Dont think the NRA counts. Just join GCA for $25 and get a cool magazine every four months

>>35827598
Thats sweet. I dont really get buying a gun and not shooting it at least a few times. Whats the first 4 of your SN?
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>>35827493
>that entire website
>credit card over the phone
what the actual fuck has this guy not updated his procedures in the millenium?
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>>35827705

If it ain't broke.
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>>35827667
I don't either.

If you can't read it. It's 5691688. You can find it in the master records on http://usriflecal30m1.com/MasterList/ListMFG.aspx?mfg=IHC
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>>35827822
Nice alt right dubs
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Is this an antique?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/716331211
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>>35827922

Yes.
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>>35827922
Yup.
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>>35827872
Kek. Is yours on the master list? I need to edit mine.
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>>35827935
>>35827945
The seller told me it's not because the ATF says if it uses conventional ammo it cannot be commercially available. He accused me of trying to get around a background check.

I looked at the ATF's website and it does say that. "For the purposes of the National Firearms Act, the term “Antique Firearms” means any firearm not intended or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898 (including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap or similar type of ignition system or replica thereof, whether actually manufactured before or after the year 1898) and also any firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade."

Everything I thought is a lie.
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>>35828032

The ammo thing is only for repros. If you buy a repro of something that doesn't have ammo available then it's considered an antique.

For instance if you bought a replica Trapdoor in .45-70 then it's not an antique, if you bought a replica Henry in .44 Henry it would be (if they made them).
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>>35827947
I just put my HRA on there, I'll put the SA on there some other time. More details on that one
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>>35828032
The seller is an idiot. Surprise surprise.
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>>35828096
Nice. What about the WRA?

So check this out. Here's the Savage before cleaning and shooting.
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>>35828184
And after.
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>>35828184
The WRA is a special grade so its a total mixmaster, wouldn't be very informative for anyone.

bls post after cleaning
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>>35828198
Yus.
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>>35828198
How'd it shoot?
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>>35823627
That's actually in much better condition than I'd expected. Seeing them described as "shooter grade" makes me think that it looks cruddy but it shoots fine. This looks pretty great too.
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>>35828207
Shid. I forgot the WRA was a mixmaster.

>>35828243
Just as well as my 5 groove Maltby Mk1/2.
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>>35828334
Got a DGR stock coming for it, should make for a good looking shooter as it will never be a correct rifle
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>>35827725
Yeah, no. His methodology is pretty broken, and not up to PCI standards. I refuse to buy from the guy.
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Best bang for your buck rifle? Im seeing Austrian Mannlicher Drill Rifles as the cheapest I can find on LibertyTree
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>Suppressing pop bottles from an overwatch position with a Enfield
My dick was at a solid half mast.
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>>35828453
You are aware of why that is?
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>>35828424
>should make for a good looking shooter
No doubt. That's some good looking walnut.
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>>35828459
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>>35828453
Ishapore Enfield or 1916 Spanish Mauser in 308.
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>>35828184
>>35828198
>savage

Muh nigga
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>>35828470
n o
If they are just drill rifles for ROTC type shit I would think they would be much cheaper
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>>35828472
Supposed to be here tomorrow. Hope it lives up to the hype, the price was high and the wait was long.
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>>35828453

Turk Mauser or Spanish Mauser.

>>35828499

They're drill versions of uncommon rifles. The latter part of that makes them valuable still.
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>>35828499
They have cuts in the barrel shank to render rhe useless. 8x56R is $1/cpr if you don't reload. The complete opposite of "bang for your buck".

>>35828485
This guy gets it. Also FR-7 and FR-8s are good and cheap.
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I shot by broomhandle on Saturday and haven't cleaned it yet. Fight me.
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Does anyone know a Decent source to buy the Bolt-head for a Mosin Nagant 91/30?
My extractor's worn out and refuses to leave the bolt.
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>>35828533
https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=469
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>>35828486
Sheeeiit. Mk1 or 1*?
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>>35828533
Brass punch and and a rubber mallet didn't work?
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>>35826137
Yeah, but I heard they were getting to the bottom of the barrel. Answer sounds to me like waiting for that sweet philliping
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>>35828453
>Best bang for your buck rifle?

Yugo Mauser. $200+ and you can at least find the ammo.

>Im seeing Austrian Mannlicher Drill Rifles as the cheapest I can find on LibertyTree

They don't shoot. They've been deactivated.
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>>35828499
>>35828500
>>35828533
>>35828544
>>35828566
>all those dubs
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>>35828529
>FR8
>cheap
No
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>>35828531
Go clean it!
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>>35828459
>pop
Get out
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>>35828601
PA Master race. Sorry we aren't from a liberal state that uses a faggy, lispy word like soda.
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>>35828570
Service grades are service grades, they have a certain set of requirements to meet

>Service Grade Rifles show less wear and better appearance than Field or Rack Grades. Good to very good condition. Rifle wear will be exhibited by worn and mixed colors of the parkerized finish. May have pitting on the metal parts. Wood will be either Walnut, Birch, Beech or other variety and will be basically sound but may have minor hairline cracks, dings, scratches and gouges. Wood may not match in color or type of wood. Wood may be of new production but may be used and show signs of wear on Service Grade Garands. Bores will be generally good with only minor imperfections. The barrel crown may be nicked, but the muzzle will gauge "3 or less" and the throat erosion will gauge less than 5.

They will be mixmasters but good shooters, likely in a new production stock unless you ask for a surplus one. You can also request stuff like manufacturer and serial number range, they will fulfill those requests if able.

>waiting for that sweet philliping
Those are supposed to be really bottom of the barrel
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>>35828591
>$350-400ish is expensive
Poorfags should be exterminated
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>>35828591
>$400 is expensive
its not 2011 anymore
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>>35828615
You don't speak for my state. If you say "pop" you're basically from Ohio so fuck off.
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>>35828644
>my state.
Wrong. Eastern PA are no better than the subhumans in Camden. and Jew York.
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>>35828566
MK1*
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>>35828644
midwest > everywhere else
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>>35828596
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>>35828686
Career opportunities > Cornfields and methheads
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>>35828723
>implying there arent plenty of jobs in the midwest
>living on the cucked coasts or in the south with the black belt
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>>35828686
Thats a funny way to spell the West*
*Excluding California, and Coastal Oregon/Washington
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>>35828752
>Excluding California, and Coastal Oregon/Washington
if only that excluded your inevitable statewide AWBs
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>>35828765

I live in WA ATM, once I've got my college done I'm considering moving somewhere else.
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>watching auction starting at 1.00 with no reserve
>completely forgot about it
>auction ended with no bids
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>>35828569
I couldn't get it to budge with what I have on hand, I'm pretty sure Whoever owned it before me never actually cleaned the gun, and that it's supremely jammed up with all sorts of gunk.
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>>35828794

feelsbadman.jpg

I've seen a few auctions going for guns that I'd like to have that end with no bids, but I don't have the money to buy just anything.
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>>35828876
It was for a K31.
God damn it.
I guess if there's one there's more.
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>>35828937

>K31 for $1

Holy jeebus...
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>>35827405
I've been planning for the great evergreen cuckening for awhile
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>>35828996

I have 4 AR-15 lowers and an AR-10 lower that I've picked up in the last 6 months-ish.

I don't want to spend more on modern stuff these days. I wish the grabbers would just fuck off for a couple years so I can get out into a new career and make some more money and buy whatever I want.
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I stopped into a thrift store yesterday and they were setting up for a collectibles auction. One thing they had was a Werndl. Never seen one outside of Forgotten Weapons.
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What would be a decent price for a K98a that's missing a few small parts and looks like it has a sanded stock?

1918 Erfurt IIRC.
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>>35829070
15
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>>35828625
>>35828634
More like 450-500
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>>35828686
>live in Midwest
>say soda
Best of both worlds
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>>35829118
I see you're a man of culture as well
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>>35828765
>Implying that I live in those States and am not sympathetic to the poor souls trapped behind the gay Berlin wall.
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>>35829109
like $400 if you have any negotiation skills/patience
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>>35828979
What went through my mind as I saw the auction and put it in the watch list was:
>Maybe I should stay away from GB for a while, I did just buy a rifle.
Me and my god damn thought processes.
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What was the last new front-line bolt action rifle put into service? Things like the MAS36 and FR8 were basically backup rifles.
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>>35829070
Really need pictures. Kar.98a hardware is much harder to find than 98k hardware.
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>>35829182
lewd
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>>35829052
Fug I'm scraping the barrel for modern shit to buy. Quite a few imports are so close but just can't cross the ATF hurdle. That and muh Russia sanctions fuck, AK107, vityaz, etc. I'm not that concerned about WA awb but we'll see soon enough. I have several pending NFA stamps and I feel like I'm racing the clock
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>>35829182

I have to stay away just because of money.

>>35829201

If you're talking about a totally new rifle it would probably the MAS-36. IT was SUPPOSED to be a backup, but at the time the war started it was their frontline gun.

The FR8 is a converted rifle, guns like the M44 Mosin are obviously just new versions of old guns.

The Madsen rifle is probably the last new bolt-action rifle that was adopted, but it was never actually put into service.

>>35829239

It's been at a local(ish) gun show for a couple months, I didn't take pictures because I'm probably not going to buy it. They have it listed for $545.

>>35829303

I don't really collect modern stuff (Beyond wanting an M-14 repro and a military-style AR-15 repro for my "American rifle" collection), so I'm mostly just interested in having a couple AR-15s and AR-10s, but it would be nice to have the options stay open. I've heard that there's a couple of Democrats here that will stick with the NRA, but we'll have to see. Our AG is gonna be a fucktard regardless.
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Anyone else pledging to C&Rsenal's campaign?

I wish I could get a copy of the WW2 poster.
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>>35828686
this
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Rock Island bids are submitted boys. Wish me luck!!
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For you garand guys, is it frowned upon to make a rifle "correct" from swapping out parts? Im not too well read in it but since shits not serialized you just look at who made it and what the production number was to determine if thats a reasonable match no?

>>35830058
Good luck man. Anything real exciting youre hoping for?
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>>35830140

No.

>>35830058

I only have money/interest in one lot, I doubt I'll win it.
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>>35829667
They're for sale on the website. Wish I had gotten in on their t shirts.
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>>35830140
it's autistic as fuck
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>>35830400

>In a milsurp thread
>Pretending you aren't autistic
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>>35829150
Don’t forget to call your drinking fountain a bubbler

>>35829167
>all these states that aren’t mine
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>>35829400
Madsen is just a Mauser

>>35830140

People who actually take the time to make their garands “correct” are ridiculous. Paying more for a “correct” garand is also silly.
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>>35830400
Its nothing im interested in doing. I was just curios since m1 guys seem like their own breed. I got a smol m1 im happy with and il buy a garand from the CMP soon
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>>35830453
>Madsen is just a Mauser
Not even slightly, no.
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>>35830453

Maybe, but it's the closest to a "new" rifle you're going to get after a MAS-36.
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>>35823627

Check out this "VG hand select" Sweaty Ben dished out to someone on sigforum.
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>>35830487
Imo, it stops at mas36
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>>35830505
I got a "Hand-Select" M24/47 from Classic back in 2012. Anybody see the problem?
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>>35830505
This is why AIM is the only place I still buy surp from online. Was the century tag actually marked VG?
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>>35830533
My hand select m39
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>>35829201

Come to think of it...G41(M)?
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>>35830535

Dunno, but G/VG is what they've been selling in the time frame he bought it, here's another pic of his hand select.

I got a hand select BM from J&G; it was better than I expected.
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What am I missing? Is it counter-bored?
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Just finished detail stripping, cleaning, and reassembling a private series 1911. Then installed a "clamp" scope mount, only to discover that the scope I had purchased has way to large an objective bell to be usable for this purpose.
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>>35830533
>>35830877
Meant to reply to this.
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>>35830928
The barrel was cross-threaded into the receiver when mounted, making it crooked. When shouldered the front sight was to the right of the rear.
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>>35830939
Oh fuck... Now I see it. What'd you end up doing with it?
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>>35830656
Idk man, aside from a spot of active rust under the slide catch and a dirty bore, I’m damn glad I got the shooter grade from AIM. Same quality everyone else seems to get but paid much less.
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>>35830978
Classic agreed to exchange it. I sent it back, and received confirmation that Sweaty Ben himself signed for it personally. And then no word for days. Called them about it; the lady on the phone said they'd get right on it. Nothing. Called again, they claimed the rifle had never arrived. Informed them that I had proof that they did; they agreed to send a replacement. Nothing. Eventually after 6 weeks of them jerking me around I had my credit card company cancel the purchase. Eventually I found a better M24/47, which ironically I no longer have any interest in and am trying to sell.

About 6 months later Sweaty Ben himself called me on the phone to ask if I still had the rifle.
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>>35830991

Yeah, that one looks great. The hand select I got had just slightly less wear on the bluing, maybe an extra nick or two though.
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>>35826255
>>35826380
Am I late to the boreposting?
>you will never take a bore picture worth a shit
>your camera is 3rd world shit
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>>35831023
>About 6 months later Sweaty Ben himself called me on the phone to ask if I still had the rifle.
What did you tell that motherfucker?
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>>35831441
>tfw the swiss bore is too shiny to get a decent photo and just overexposes the CCD.
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What's a good powder to replicate M1 ball? Something slow?
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>>35831023

>buying from Ben: master of vague descriptions and no guarantees

The only time I bought surplus online was from Southern Ohio for a 92S. They did a great job and didn't rip me off.
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>>35831467
>What did you tell that motherfucker?
I told him I had his signature on the delivery receipt and offered to send him a copy in case seeing the date would jog his memory.
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>>35830140
>is it frowned upon to make a rifle "correct" from swapping out parts?
No, thats somewhat common practice. Scott Duff and Bruce Canfield have good books on figuring out all the features and draw numbers. There is also this site which is pretty good

http://usriflecal30m1.com/Parts/PartsMFG.aspx?mfg=SA
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I got a 50rd box of South African R1 M3Z .303 with my rifle. That was the nicest .303 I ever had.
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>>35830505
I got an VG-excellent hand select P64 from sweaty ben. Holster wearing on the muzzle, slight dent on the left slide serration, and im pretty sure it was a restock. Im sure it is because the grip screw is the modern replacement that uses a slot screw and nut, and the springs had the lighter wolff springs.

I didnt bother returning it because it was going to be a carry gun anyways, and it was one of the only surplus runs with the import stamp on the bottom of the frame.
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>>35831441

Your camera is fine. You just need to change the point of focus.
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C&R is absolutely worth it yeah? Thinking of applying once I move
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Radioactive Man here. Got confirmation my 1917 shipped today.
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>>35824427

its force matched, its not the original stock to the rifle.
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>>35826255

40 rounds fired rapidly, followed by plugging the bore and soaking in Gasoline for a week, will brighten that bore right up.
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>>35831023
The only thing I've gotten from Classic was my 1895 Chilean, and that is the only thing I plan on ever getting from them
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>>35833074
Make?
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>>35833388

Early production Winchester. Going from the markings it was used by Canada and then Denmark after WW2. Bolt is probably mismatched from when Century imported them in the '80s.
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So why exactly are Mosins considered bad (or at least not unusually good) rifles? They seem to have this reputation of "they're only worth getting because they're cheap," but after getting an SMLE my Mosin really seems fine in comparison. The only real glaring problem I can see with the Mosin is its suicidal de-cocking process.
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>>35833471
>after getting an SMLE my Mosin really seems fine in comparison

wat. just how messed up is your smelly?
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>>35833409
That's a shame about the bolt, but as long as the fit is good, headspace is good and the locking contact is good I guess it can be overlooked.
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>>35833506

The US never bothered with matching bolts, so if it'd lived its life in the US you'd assume it was an arsenal rebuild. But when they went to Denmark the Danes serialized everything. Then when they came back the bolts were shipped separate from the rifles and CAI didn't try to match them again.
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>>35833471
People bought them as first guns. They didn't know how to maintain them and let them rust or didn't clean them out causing issues with sticky bolt and accuracy. There are also a bunch of lemons in circulation that people were unlucky enough to get
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>>35833497
Well the SMLE seems to be a Frankenstein of different parts. If what I'm reading is right, it's got the old early-WW1-style bolt on a 1943 receiver. But the bore is the nicest I've seen on any milsurp, and I haven't shot it yet, so I don't know how it shoots.

But the SMLE definitely has some failings that the Mosin doesn't
>sight radius
>horribly cluttered sight picture
I'm assuming the smaller front sight post is going to make distance shooting a bit easier (I can't even see my standard targets at 200 yards with the Mosin because the front sight post is so big), but that cluttered sight picture means it takes a whole lot longer for me to line up the sights.
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>>35833565
Does the bolt serial match? If not it's not surprising the feel is rough, but the cocking piece can be replaced independently of the bolt body, and might have been. I'm not a big fan of SMLEs either, but the No4 I love.
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>>35833640
I still can't seem to find where all the serial numbers are on my SMLE. The only number I've found is on the back of the bolt handle.

And don't get me wrong - I love this SMLE. It just feels like the Mosin really is a lot nicer than its reputation suggests.

Are there any truly bad milsurp guns?
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>>35833471
They aren’t bad, people have just put other milsurps on a pedestal and like to pretend they are trash
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>>35833708
Nigga are you blind? The serial is on the receiver ring of the SMLE and also one on the barrel which should be visible if you lift the top guard off. I can see it in that picture.
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>>35833559
>see this and realize I don't have a good picture of my Mosin with matching pigsticker
>had to fix it immediately
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>>35833708
Serials should be found on the receiver, barrel, bolt body, forearm, buttstock, rear sight leaf and nosecap.
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Who was the anon looking for a SMLE magazine cut off? Wasn't there something special about the one you were looking for?
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>>35833802
I only have the on pic of bayoneted mosin
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>when the bayonet for your Mosin costs more than the Mosin
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>>35834057
what how
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>>35833640
Well the bolt serial is in the G-77XXX while the rest of the rifle looks like N-45XXX, so clearly they're pretty far apart in production runs.

How late did they do those older cocking pieces? Every other Enfield I see seems to have the new one.
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>>35833471
99% of it is just salty poorfags who expected something unrealistic and are upset about it. There are problems with Mosins, but they're no worse than most other service rifles.
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>>35834284
They seem especially good for a "first smokeless repeater" that went effectively unchanged until the country went to semi-autos.
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>>35834299
For a 1st generation smokeless rifle they're very good. The biggest problem I have with them is the short bolt handle. I think a lot of people perceptions of them would be improved if it was 1/2" longer.
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>>35834299
Compared to most other service rifles of the Era, the Mosin is pretty mediocre. Not helped by the steady diet of shitty ammo.
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>>35834318
https://youtu.be/_EbVBGWCs0I?t=370
Do you think he's exaggerating the bolt pull in this vid? I have a couple mosins, both with very different feeling bolts and I couldn't imagine doing this with either of them.
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>>35834349
No he is not. Running the action on an empty chamber with a Mosin is very different feeling than running the action with a loaded magazine and chamber.
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>>35834349
No, it's probably not an exaggeration. Finns didn't care much about matching bolts and for hand fitted rifles with removable bolt heads, that can affect the fittment (and headspace, which makes extraction rougher).

This has got me thinking.... I think I'm gonna buy a bubba Mosin and see if I can make it into a better rifle. 25in barrel, rear aperture sight, wings instead of a globe for the sight, and a better trigger, and a longer, turned down bolt handle. Make it a good universal short rifle.
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>>35834284
>>35833471

I haven't owned one but I've fired a (well maintained) couple. Compared to other milsurp guns these were my impressions:

-Stocks are too short and too narrow
-They don't load as well from stripper clips
-Safety is awful
-Mediocre triggers
-Rough and sloppy bolt action

I'm not saying this makes the Mosin an awful gun, but these days if someone's choosing between a $300 Mosin and a $300 Mauser I'd go for the Mauser.
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>>35834466
>-They don't load as well from stripper clips
>-Safety is awful
I'll give you those two. Another fun thing is their "decocking" process involves pulling the trigger as you close the bolt, so it drops the firing pin onto the round as you close it.

>-Mediocre triggers
>-Rough and sloppy bolt action
I've seen these complaints a lot but I don't really get them. What's wrong with the Mosin trigger? I've shot plenty of guns and I haven't noticed anything particularly bad about the Mosin's trigger. Same with the bolt - it can be tough to open sometimes, but it's pretty solid otherwise.
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>>35834466
>stock too short and narrow
Is your fault for not being tiny Soviet man
>they did not load well from clips
Try using real ones, not Chinese crap
>safety is awful
Who cares, your safety is between your ears
>mediocre trigger
Just like most service rifles of the era
>rough and sloppy action
Haven’t had a problem with any of mine except sticking on wolf steel cases ammo. Always works great with brass and surp.
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>>35834423
>Finns didn't care much about matching bolts
On the contrary, that's basically the only part they did care about matching to the rifle.
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>>35834222
I believe they were gotten rid of sometime during or just after WW1, but may have been made again in the inter war period.
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I just bought a hex mosin with a clean bore for $160.

Did I do good?
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Avatarfagging is nailing the image limits
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>>35833708

>Are there any truly bad milsurp guns?

The Jap gun that shoots when you squeeze the side?

Realistically most really BAD guns get caught by the trials process. There's definitely a number that shouldn't have been adopted for various reasons (G41 (both), M-14, M38 Carcano, probably some others) but not much in the way of objectively terrible guns.

>>35833956

He was looking for one for a No.1 Mk 6 IIRC.

>>35834175

Read the filename, it's a Finn M27.

>>35834897

Very good these days.
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>>35834897
does the pope shit in the woods?




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