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What's the best pre-1897 handgun I can buy?
Best = I could still find pew for it

Antiquefags pls hlp
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>>36468288
makarov
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>>36468321
I'm googling, but please expand?
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>>36468321
Ie what year should I search?
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>>36468321
Pre 1897, man.

Anyone else informed?
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You see here in leafland one can own an antique pew with no registration or license so this could be a good thread for those of us who need to be off the grid

Need old heads on this one please reply
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Handguns:
manufactured before 1898 that can discharge only rim-fire cartridges, other than .22 Calibre Short, .22 Calibre Long or .22 Calibre Long Rifle cartridges;
manufactured before 1898 that can discharge centre-fire cartridges, other than a handgun designed or adapted to discharge .32 Short Colt, .32 Long Colt, .32 Smith and Wesson, .32 Smith and Wesson Long, .32‑20 Winchester, .38 Smith and Wesson; .38 Short Colt, .38 Long Colt, .38-40 Winchester, .44‑40 Winchester, or .45 Colt cartridges.
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Bump
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>>36468288
Old H&R and Iver Johnson Revolvers from that time period can still be found for less than $400. However, shooting them will require reloading because the .32 S&W they require uses black powder.
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>>36468444
>other than
do what? that basically limits you to nothing. I'd get a nice blck powder repro of a Remington with a few spares cylinders and call it a day.

In theory you could get a couple weird as fug pre WW1 revolvers but they're all pretty spendy and cartridges aren't an advantage when you have to spend a shitton of cash on buying reloading gear for your weird one off boutique nonsense.

Pinfire isn't a realistic option. The law was basically made in a, "we don't want to pay for registering this shit but we don't want people to have useable guns from that era either way." They even cucked you out pretty much every SAA.
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>>36468288
>>36468444
The "best" would probably be a super early C96. Good luck finding one though.
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>>36468925
>The "best" would probably be a super early C96. Good luck finding one though.
Interesting choice. It wouldn't be in a meme caliber either given 7,63 is still "around." Hate to pay for the gun or ammo though wew.
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I'm still here all thanks for the suggestions. It seems there's some sweet Colts out there that would work for me: https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/comments/1wcsav/anyone_looking_to_sell_an_antique_status_revolver/
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>>36468288
C96 ofc.
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>>36469363
I looked at it. It looks fucking clunky. Would not be able to CCW that. Idk it's ugly. Thanks tho
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>>36468694
This is good info, pouring over it now, thanks!
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>>36468694
Which one tho? Need narrow specifications iffin you please
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Step aside, niggas.
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You can get a nagant revolver but most would've been made after 1897
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>>36469886
Holy shit he laughed at his phone screen on a cold leafy night. What is this thing
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>>36469890
Links pls
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>>36468288
If you have to ask us for advice, you probably aren’t the kind of guy who can afford a 120 year old antique firearm.

Sorry about your felony conviction and/or involuntary commitment, but this isn’t a realistic way to get a gun.
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>>36469986
>involuntary commitment
ITS NOT FAIR
IM SANE NOW
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>>36469942
It's a Borchardt C-93. Father to the P08 Luger.
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A Remington Smoot revolver in .38RF, i have one there fucking sweet to shoot. Pretty "snappy" recoil though
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>>36469986
I have a good stack of honest money and an interest in not being registered for what I believe to be a god given universal right to arms. It's about not being in the system and I wager there are many like me. Chill and contribute svp. Look at my Savanah cat.
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>>36470111
Looks like trash to carry but aesthetic af
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>>36470142
>It's about not being in the system
Nothing is going to happen, millions of people own firearms, What are they honestly going to do? Do you think the gubermint is going to come get your guns? I think you should stop being so paranoid and Stop watching Alex Jones..
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>>36470135
Thanks, looking into this. There's ammo for it around?
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>>36470213
>>36470142
Nvm you live in Canada.. There will probably be a total ban on arms there in the next 20 years
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>>36468444
nagant revolvers exist from that period, 7.62 nagant isn't on that list and can be found.

>>36468694
.32 short and weak is on the nono list.
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>>36470233
Yarr I'm in 2x4 with a nail in it land. I gotta get what I can while I can, brother.
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>>36470219
I managed to find a few full 50rd boxes at gunshows for about $130-$400. Pricey as hell, but dont tell the old fudds that you'll be firing it. They get salty and i had a guy refuse to sell it to me because i made the mistake of telling him.

I do have a PAL/RPAL which im pretty sure you still need to buy antique ammo
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>>36469401
>C96
>he think's a C96 is ugly
>he dosen't know what a C96 is
end it newtwat
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8mm Lebel is one I've been looking at
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>>36470142
there are, that's why you need to pay an absurd amount of money for something that's in very short supply.

http://www.oldguns.ca/firearms-for-sale-page-12.html
https://firearmscanada.com/ad-category/antique/
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>>36468969
7.63 Mauser from PPU is roughly the same cost as 5.56
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>>36470233
I doubt it. Just get ur RPAL and buy a modern handgun. It isn't that hard. Even a total arms ban in leafland is extremely unrealistic
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>>36470322
I can roll my own if it's not too bothersome
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>>36470329
It's not practical is all man
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>>36470408
Dont reload them myself, but have a friend who does. I just pay him a few bucks to do so.
Apperently its a huge pain in the ass
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>>36470361
This!

Tyvm
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>>36470418
>not practical
literally nothing you can buy will be. that's the point of the law. people are recommending rimfire guns and ammo centuries old. it's literal garbage that's why CF replaced it. now you have decades of questionable handling and decay of chemicals. what exactly would you use it for? only a fool would trust it to defend themselves or be useful in any way.
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>>36470459
if you settle on something, make sure it's unrestricted, then post the caliber and we'll price it out.
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>>36470459
Colt 1889 in 41 LC

This is what makes sense on the site. not sure if you can source ammo without a license based on what the other anon said. but, 41LC is a round that isn't completely batshit crazy in terms of availability and dependence on 100+ y/o ammo
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>>36470480
Why bother is not the informed and creative solution I'm looking for here my friend...
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>>36470512
Thanks mate. That's solid.
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>>36470537
i gave you a practical option, it's 2,200 though :) just letting you know, rimfires are shit if you plan on doing anything but collecting them. only a moron would depend on them. and yes, i've seen 150+ y/o ammo go bang. i've also seen it pop and do nothing but plug a barrel.
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>>36470528
Cool, Imma check it out
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>>36470528
>Webley MK 1 45 ACP

>This gun functions as it should with good lock up and timing which is spot on, the cylinder has been shaved for 45 ACP and can be shot using moon clips or 45 auto rimmed. Please keep in mind that this gun is almost 150 years old and if you decide to shoot it, it should be with light loads and lead bullets only. It has good solid grips and a great bore and cylinders. This is an antique in Canada and does not require a license to own or buy.
$2200 Can.
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>>36470584
thought i read 45 acp was prohib. i agree.
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>>36470557
This. You would have to be such an idiot to trust antique firearms for defense.
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>>36470557
Confirmed. I just want to make a quality purchase. Thanks for contributing.
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Night night gents
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>>36470557
This is accurate.
I kinda collect old rimfires, (have 4) The Smoot is one of the only ones ive fired. Only put 10 rounds through it, all of which worked flawlessly.
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>>36470593
.45 colt is different from .45 auto colt pistol, hopefully the rcmp know the difference. seller says it's cool and that's the biggest hurdle.
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>>36470635
yeah they really jewed canadians out of the best gun you could possibly get, S.A.A., with that little stroke. Kind of sad desu as they aren't going to be used for anything nefarious and they're beautiful guns. I've kicked around a couple of antiques over the years and I've still not found a gun of similar quality during that period.
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>>36468288
Hand Nuggets...
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>>36468694
What loading manuals and equipment do you recommend for .32 short?
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>>36470213
That’s his breakfast.
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>>36468288
How about replica 1800s cap and ball revolvers? Not technically pre-1898 but they count as antique non-guns in the States (maybe Canada as well) and can be cheap
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>>36468444
One good option is a .32 or .38 rimfire. You can fool around with custom cartridges that shoot a 32/38 caliber ball: http://32rimfire.blogspot.com/

More work, but better results, IMO, can be had by making, or having made, inserts that hold .22 WRF (it's like a short .22 Mag, not very popular, but still produced) and line the barrel with a .22 barrel liner. If you're concerned about the value of the antique you're modifying, you can do this all reversibly -- just sand the barrel liner and inserts to fit, don't modify the gun, and install them with loctite. But really, you can find these rimfire chamberings in relatively worthless and plentiful guns anyway -- so-called Suicide Specials, Iver Johnsons, that sort of thing, in crappy cosmetic condition.

For centerfire options, you'll probably be stuck reloading, but there's tons of European stuff, like any of the more-or-less interchangeable .450 Adams, .476 Enfield, and .455 Webley cartridges. There's also plenty of pocket revolvers in 5.75 Velo-dog.

.320 Revolver, which is similar to .32 Short Colt (Colt actually copied the European cartridge), is an edge case, as the Colt cartridge has a bigger rim -- some guns will accept .32 Short Colt, some won't. Not sure if that's a problem for you anyhow.

And there's any number of European military revolvers in their respective cartridges, though you may find these rather large for concealed carry. Someone's already mentioned the Nagant, but French, Swiss, Germans, everybody was getting revolvers made back then.

The third option is getting an antique cap-and-ball revolver, and a modern conversion cylinder in a cartridge too new to be on the list, e.g. .45 ACP or .38 Special, taking care to only shoot loads equivalent to the gun's original blackpowder loading. The modern conversion cylinders are made to fit modern repros, not original antiques, but with some fitting I expect they can be made to work.
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Wait, cucknadian antique guns are limited by cartridge?

Only the date of manufacture matters in Patriot land.
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K series USP40 of course
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>>36470319
>brother

Confirmed for neechie/ chug
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>>36472119
This.
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>>36468288
>What's the best pre-1897 handgun I can buy?

>custom single pistols that doubles as a brass knuckle.
>Break top revolver
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>>36468288
does it need to be made before 1897? or does the design itself need to predate 1897?
If so, then SAA in .44 MAGNUM
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>>36470213
>LOL there's millions of us
>do you just think the soviets are gonna be able to round us all up?
>lol there's millions of us
>do you think the Germans are just going to be able to round us all up?

Neck yourself
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>>36470142
I don't share your point of view. Yes, I believe it should be a natural right, but "not being in the system" doesn't help with that, it just legally lists you as someone who doesn't own guns. And we need the exact opposite of that, we need as many people showing that they're willing to jump through the retarded hoops if we ever actually want to get rid of said hoops. And if you have a driver's licence they have you "in the system" already.
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Cap and Ball Muzzle loader, .50 cal for maximum perforation.
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>>36470418
It's an antique you fucking leaf
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>>36471659
Fuck, idk, I don't own one. I just like the revolvers. When I get one I'll get it in 38 s&w, or hopefully some company will make a double action break action revolver before then.
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>>36468288
your OP shows the correct answer already
>webley
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>>36472255
>>do you think the Germans are just going to be able to round us all up?
they didn't tho
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>>36469986
>$200 pietta repro
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Morning all. What does SSA stand for?
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>>36468288
You can't conceal carry no matter the situation. You can't carry antique firearms loaded unless you are in a location where it is legal to discharge them. Just looks up "antique handguns Canada" and you'll find several online stores selling just what you're looking for but it will cost you minimum $800. Just get your fucking non restricted pal so you can have real guns with all the same transportation and storage laws as shitty antique ones. Also you still need a PAL to buy antique ammo faggot so get good at reloading or get your license

T. Other leaf
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>>36473880
I think you mean SAA in regards to colt revolvers. It stands for single action army but have fun buying one. Better start saving those leaf nickels because you'll be out $3,000 minimum for a pre 1887 colt SAA
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>>36473924
Ah okay thanks. I work hard so I have monies.
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>>36469401
Get the fuck off /k/
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>>36473953
Why nigga
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>>36469401
I hope you choke on some poutine.
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This is a fun interesting thread and you have head trauma that makes you emotional and prone to anger. You need joe rogane
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>>36473924
I didn't see any caliber options for him based on the restricted caliber list. Granted, i'm not a complete SAA aficionado but the good ones seem to be specifically excluded.

I know .455 Webley SAAs were made so that might be something to look into. They're really pricey stateside though.




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