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Where can I get a brass or copper katana for cheap that hasn't received any color treatment or anything fancy?

I think it'd be fun to own something kinda shitty
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>>36778629
Why would anyone make a sword or knife out of brass or copper? Are you from the neolithic era?
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>>36778835
most cheap swords are and then just chrome plated.
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>>36778920
Prove it
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>>36778920
So can you get without chrome plating
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Is this supposed to be for display or actual cutting of things?
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>>36780541
It's obvious
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>>36778835
> -lithic
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>>36778629
I'm trying to wrap my head around why you chose that specific pic to lead off your thread. What was the question again? Copper swords? Soft, malleable metal. Yeah, that's what you want in a sword...
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>>36781158

>why that pic

hes a copper man
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>>36778629
>copper sword
>fun to own something kinda shitty
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>>36782212
Expand ?
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>>36782780
does he really need to??
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>>36782798
There are at least two different interpretations for what he said
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>>36778920
Most cheap swords are made from cheap stainless steel.
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>>36778920
No they aren't.
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>>36778629
>copper
Considering copper is an order of magnitude more expensive than steel, you won't find anything, much less anything cheap.
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>>36778629
Just get one of those rainbow retardo swords op
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>>36783327
>cheap stainless steel
Chineseium.
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>>36784678
How are brass copper more than steel
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>>36785257
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>>36785257

Copper per pound is about 2.00 to 3.00 dollars in most places and bulk steel/iron prices are about .05 to .15 cents a pound.

Why the fuck would you want a sword made out of brass or copper anyways? That is less functional than a cheap chinese steel sword in almost every way imaginable.
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>>36778629
>>36778920
shut the fuck up. You don't know anything.
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>>36785257
iron is much more common than copper and much more easily processed
steel production has been evolving for 1,000 years, and is bought and sold for megastructures globally in mass
copper is used in expensive things, with big budgets.
brass is an alloy with literally no modern function outside of firearms (strong and does not rust, requires no work to make it not rust like steel, militaries recycle the same casing dozens of times before it gets recycled) and purely cosmetic novelty items for it's appearance.

TLDR copper is either inside of everything you touch in 2018, or something made with copper was used to manufacture it. not true with steel. half of steels uses from the industrial age have been replaced with other cheaper, or better materials.
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>>36785341
>>36785414
What about bronze ?

>>36785372
Why are you angry
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>>36785423

Bronze is mostly made out of copper as is brass, just a different alloy. Some bronze is fairly strong but still terrible properties for a weapon.
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>>36785423
like brass, it's a barely conductive alloy. copper being the standard for conductivity, hence why it's in all your little $800 phones, and the millions of dollars in machines and electronics that manufacture millions of said phones.

copper and gold are extremely high priority products, steel is not, and will continue declining as material science advances
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>>36785460
>>36785436
>>36785436

Wow thats really interesting. non steel materials for weapon creation is pretty cool

are there really peopel who pay $800 for a phone
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>>36785414

There is still tons of industrial and commercial uses for brass. Other than that you're right.
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>>36785460
>>36785436

so is steel the cheapest material you could possibly make a metal katana out of?

how do i get a really cheap ugly katana then
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>>36785516
cast iron or plastic or something
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>>36778920
Do you mean bronze? Still wrong, but at least somewhat plausible.
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>>36785536
Give me some cast iron
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>>36785814
Do your own homework you anus.
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>>36786010
It's either this or I bug you for you brass at the range so I can melt it down and use a mold to make it Katana
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>>36786030
If you can't google sword replicas, you can't cast a fucking sword on your own.
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I am actually interested in a legitimate katana for practicing tameshigiri. I found pic related seams to be the cheapest legit option that wont end up with me in the hospital with katana injuries, does anybody have any good recommendations?
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>>36786649
I'll support you
>>36786609
so you want me to beg for your brass and grab it from under you?
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>>36787011
>I'll support you

I need to know if there are better sword options at this price point... I dont want some fedoralord tier mall sword, I want to get it to actually practice the technique and possibly get into competitive sword cutting
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>>36787074
>>36787074
Yeah I think that's a respectable goal. I'm cheering for you
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>>36786649
I've heard Hanwei is the way to go for a cutter, actually.
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>>36785516
They just take cheap ass Chinese surplus steel rods and grind them straight down before putting a mirror polish on them. The edge and false hamons are either acid or laser etched.
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>>36786649

im actually the same way except for naginata, also im poor. id like a cheap naginata to learn with and have fun cutting i suppose
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>>36778629
why though

Functional katanas are the cheapest and most available compared to all other sword designs and it's explicitly because of the huge market created by weebs and mall ninjas.
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>>36787512
because im disfunctional
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>>36787321
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>>36788188
Thats genunely me
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Hi everoyne
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>>36788644
hi
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>>36778629
Why brass?
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>>36778629
bump
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>>36778629
The cheapest I would recommend, that is still functional and not just going to fall apart, is the entry level Ronin at $130.

https://roninkatana.com/entry-level-katana-samurai-swords-starting-at-130/

But consider saving up more (like $250) for a better Ronin, or Hanwei, or Dragon forge (if they make anything that cheap).

Ideally you want something that has a Mono Temper. While differential tempering is more historical and pretty (has a Hamon line), they are weaker, and more easy to bend if you hit a target with bad edge alignment.

I have a Hanwei Raptor, I've had it for at lest 6 years, and it has held up great, if you can spend $300, do consider the Raptor line. Pic related.
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>>36778629
If you want something shit, why bother asking? Literally just type in "Katana" or "Samurai Sword" on Google, and pick the cheapest one you can find on Amazon or where ever. You aren't going to find anything other than stainless steel or plastic though.
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>>36790980
Rare
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>buying a sword
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>>36778920
No they arent you dumb nigger
a brass sword would cost 2-3X what a cheap stamped steel one would in materials alone
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>>36778920
They're made out of Chinesium, and the ones from Japan meant for training are made out of some zinc compound.
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>>36785516
Fucking retard
https://www.amazon.c om/Master-Cutlery-Piece-Marble-Katana/dp/B001R16QV8/ref=sr_1_6?s=sports-and-fitness&ie=UTF8&qid=1518542276&sr=1-6&keywords=katana&dpID=41DKrUJlsJL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
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>>36785516
B U D K
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>>36793761
Fuck off
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>>36794403
What. Why.
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>>36795368
>act like a dick
>why are you mad dude what'd i do :(
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>>36795449
Budk is a company that sells exactly what you're looking for you complete and colossal fucking retard.
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>>36794403
Holy shit you're fucking dumb
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>>36778629
>Where can I get a brass or copper katana for cheap
Probably nowhere, most cheap swords are just inexpensive steel with a poor heat treatment. If you're looking for a wallhanger it seems like you're going out of your way to make it hard on yourself.

>>36778920
Horseshit.
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>>36786649
Hanwei and Cheness are safe options in that price range. Huawei and Ronin have apparently stepped up their game and you may want to look at them. Condor has a decent selection of inexpensive swords as well.
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>>36786649
>>36790562
>>36797281
good advice.
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>>36797281
Hmmm... Don't know how I (>>36790562) forgot about Cheness and Condor.

While I'm thinking of it, he may also consider starting out with something cheaper and smaller than a real sword. Cobra Steel makes a few decent short swords for less than $60. Personally I can not recommend the Schrade Brush Sword enough, it blew my mind for how cheap it is ($40ish) and how good it is, granted it is more of a machete/chopper. Also the Cold Steel Swordchetes, if you don't mind a fixer up.

Consider a cheap short sword to get used to and practice with, before deciding if it is worth spending the money on a real sword.
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If you gonna want a blade that is worth a damn then your gonna may as well go learn som metallurgy and make your own blade because every blade on the current market is shit even the ones from premium stores.
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>>36797678
kek this has to be bait... yeah just learn metallurgy and make your own.. how fucking simple. Not like sword smithing is an entire trade.

>because every blade on the current market is shit
I think a lot of people would disagree. Chines brands like Hanwei, Ronin, Cheness, Dragon Forge, and Skyjiro, are all improving a lot. More Premium brands like Thaitsuki Nihonto and Citadel are offering PRODUCTION swords that rival or surpass ones coming out of Japan from the traditional smiths. And custom Smiths all around the world are making crazy custom blades with cutting edge steels and exotic fittings, and having no problem selling them for many thousands.

If anything sword "culture" is in a new renaissance. HEMA and Kendo are growing fast.
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>>36797778
No it isn't and your a shill
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>>36778920
Wow you're a fucking idiot. You realize that brass/bronze are much more expensive than cheap stainless steel, yes? At any rate, when you finally do get your shitty sword, please stab it through your fucking guts you waste of oxygen.
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>>36778629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb3UobSZl34&t=115s
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>>36798767
Post some of the swords you've made Anon.
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>>36778629
https://youtu.be/ym7pSgT_Reg

That shit melts down pretty easy just cook some copper pipes and build it.
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>>36798767
>hurdur I done put a hair dryer on a grill and put a file in. I put my spunk on da file and hit it with da hammer. After it red I put it in jar of pickles so it be do get hard. Now its magic steel that is better than any industrial foundry and chemist can make.

>da fug is 5160... Normilization silkles? What is an L6? Grain formation, aint that for food?
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>>36797637
>Cobra Steel
I've heard good things about that line. Apparently Windlass can crank out some good shit when they feel like it.
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>>36798929
You missed the whole building a cast, making a mold, making the negative in proper casting sand, making good ventilation holes, the fact copper melts at like 2,000f and you need a crucible, the many hours of sanding and polishing, how to work harden it... Just a few details.
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>>36787466
Pls respond
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>>36798992
That stuffs not expensive , you can do all that in a kitchen
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>>36800992
Sand casting bronze can literally explode if there's a tiny amount of moisture in it. It's not something just anyone can do in their kitchen
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>>36800992
You happen to have a crucible and a forge in you kitchen? Or does your oven get up to 2,000f? It's not like lead where you can just put it in a put on the stove. You need some sort of forge/crucible for even Aluminum or Brass.

Sure you can make a forge... But all in all you would probably end up spending like $400-$1,000 (depending on what you have) and like 100 hours (At lest) to get a really shitty copper sword. Sure you would learn a lot and make stuff, but this is about getting a sword.

ORRRRR you could spend $300 on a decent entry level, spring steel, Katana.
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>>36785414
>Brass
>No modern function outside of firearms
>Wut
Brass is used for a shit ton of plumbing purposes, as well as anything that needs to be exposed to elements. Alot of buckles and other shit that are meant for medium to heavy duty use are brass.
Learn about metal you nerd.
Oh and yeah copper, also plumbing. Just saying.




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