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HK G3
>all shithole militias (LAR)& armies equipped with it
> longer than AK so less useful in guerilla warfare/ jungles skirmishes
what are its advantages? Why use this one rather than a 47?
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>>36784160
>more powerful round
>more accurate
>le battle rifle meme
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>>36784160
>Less useful in guerrilla warfare/jungle skirmishes
The Rhodesians would like to have a word with you.
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>>36784160
Because 7.62x51 has the ballistic properties of .30-06, is accurate, doesn't foul easily (no gas system), blah blah blah
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>>36784160
>Abundance of surplus G3 rifles
>Borderline indestructible
>Ultra reliable
>Accurate
>Powerful, penetrating cartridge
>Only a couple inches longer than an AKM
>Sexy as fuck
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>>36784160
They're common in Africa because there was so many left behind after Portugal lost out in Angola and Mozambique
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>>36784160
>47
No such AK
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You could literally shorten a g3 with shitty welder and hacksaw
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>>36784439
>I am so smart
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Can we get some G3/PTR porn?
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>>36784365
Dat wood furniture.
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.308, a flatter trajectory + more power
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>>36784471

was thinking this the toher day, it would look fine with some paint and light fab work
Guys what should my bolt gap be in Imperial specs guns feeling harder to cock than it used to new
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>>36784385
Probably rather because like 80% of the free world adopted them.
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>>36784244
you mean the faggots who lost a war agaibst niggers with AKs? Ok
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>>36784160
>what are its advantages? Why use this one rather than a 47?
When you're cracked out on khat and human flesh you just use what you have bro.
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>>36785051
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>>36785276
No, he means the nation that was wrecked economically by US instigated sanctions, and then forced to hand over power to Chi-Com backed "liberation army" of terrorists and their political wing because the chinks conned the yanks into thinking that the election of a moderate black had been rigged.
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>>36784160
>Why use this one rather than a 47?

Because you're a 3rd world shithole army conscript/terrorist and you will use whatever rifle is given to you. You don't exactly get to choose what gun you have when you're dirt poor. You use whatever is available. They used the G3 because that's what was available.
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>>36784244
This would sound better if they won.
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>>36784365
I love my slav weapons to death and choose them over anything but.. this is making my dick unnaturally hard.
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>>36785327
>When u just been beheaded but then u realize u left the stove on
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>>36785276
Rhodesia lost to millions of niggers.

America lost to one.
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>>36785327
I know where this thread is Heading
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>>36790204
Ohhh. Right in my freedom..
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>>36784160
The Rhodesians loved their battle rifles because it had a longer range than the 7.62x39mm rifles of the rebels. It also packed enough punch to hit them behind cover.
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>>36785255
The Right Arm of The Free World, FAL disagrees with your statement
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Which has been found to last longer in the hands of subhuman "tribesman", the G3 or the FAL?
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>>36791971
FAL action is more durable and less sensitive, at the cost of being several MOA less accurate
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>>36784365
Can anyone speak to this 'practically indestructible' point? I remember reading a long time ago that the AKM has the reputation as the most hardy in the worst conditions, but that the G3 was the true king and could go through thousands and thousands of rounds no problem and that the only parts that you'd need to replace are the rollers.
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>>36790204
Explain.
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>>36792524
really? do you live under a rock?
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>>36793032
No. And I'm assuming you don't either. Please explain.
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>>36793055
He's referring to the fact that Rhodesia has become a communist, subhuman shithole full of niggers. As well as the fact that Barack Obama implemented countless anti American, anti business, anti military and pro cultural marxist laws during his presidency.
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>>36784160
Fal was better
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>>36793415
very false
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>>36793111
I need to buy you a silver spoon if you are going to keep feeding these babies.
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>>36793423
Can you substantiate this? I never used one outside of the desert. How well do they perform against the FAL in muddy/wet environments? Do they have any rust issues? I am genuinely not shitposting.
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>>36785255
Wrong. Know your history.
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>>36792364
Those stories are BS. Give a G3 to a conscript (regardless of nationality) and he'll find a way to break it sooner or later.
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>>36793423
>terrible recoil
>shit trigger
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>>36793542
A conscript will break an iron bearing ball, given enough time, your argument is invalid.
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>>36784160
>47
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>>36793111
>Barack Obama implemented countless anti American, anti business, anti military and pro cultural marxist laws during his presidency.
Which ones?
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>>36793415
>>36793423
>>36793542

It seems to me that FAL and G3 are the two real contenders (except maybe the AK) for the true king of 3rd world conditions. What mechanically makes one superior to the other in design?

I ask as a Californian, which is borderline 3rd world
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>>36791989
Actually, it's the opposite.
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>>36792364
>weebshit
disgusting, autistic manchildren shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
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>>36793561
G3 recoil is worse. FAL ergos are arguably better. Battle rifle triggers will always suck. G3 will last longer and feed shittier ammo than an FAL.
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>>36794749
/k/ told me FAL has really shitty accuracy, true?
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>>36794888
>really shitty
No. The G3 and the FAL are both 2-4MOA rifles.
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>>36792364
It's literally just a heavy gauge sheet metal receiver with a barrel welded into it and a huge chunk of metal inside. It's a blowback operated .308 so it's built like a tank.
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>>36793111
I didn't know the President makes the laws of the United States. Tell me more, Hans.
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>>36784439
>>36793806
Since when is the AK-47 not a real rifle? Am I missing something here?
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>>36784160
>longer than AK so less useful in guerilla warfare/ jungles skirmishes

fucking retard
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>>36793111
obama isnt the president anymore and everything he did has been repealed
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>>36795021
He can make or break the policies of federal agencies, and the military.
>what is don't ask don't tell

You dense motherfucker
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>>36784365
I don't know about indestructible, they'll wear with enough use.
Extreme case is Turk and Greek G3s, which have seen hard use since adoption, though granted, the maintenace has probably not been very great on those.

But replace springs, rollers and maybe barrels, once every decade or so, and they'll probably run.
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>>36784439
AK47 is a colloquialism for 7.62x39mm Kalashnikov rifles.

Don't be autistic.
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>>36784471
Good way to make a keyhole machine, unless you properly recrown it.
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>>36795227
>colloquialism
ameritard misnomer
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>>36794731
Yet here you are.

>>36795021
It's going by the notion that "AK47" was never official nomenclature for 7.62x39mm Kalashnikov rifles, that there was only the AK and the AKM (the improved stamped AK, which constitutes most 7.62mm AK rifles and which most of the clones are based on).
Supposedly, AK47 is a later western nickname that came about to differentiate it from the AK74 in common speech.

We can go back and forth an entire thread about the truth of all this (I'd personally say it sounds kind of plausible), but it doesn't change the fact that most people mean "7.62x39mm Kalashnikov" when they say AK47, regardless of if they are aware of the AKM.
You could say this is like Clip Vs. Magazine, but I don't agree, because the difference isn't even remotely as substantial.

>>36795257
You sure showed me, Sperg Ferguson.
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>>36793111
this is the kind of person who unironically says redpill
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>>36795064
>don't ask, don't tell
Oh please, the armed forces are gay as fuck, that's not even a remotely new development.
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>>36793496
Take a second to look at the legacy of the CETME/G3 and all the guns still used from the pattern (including mp5s). Both are good guns, but the G3 seems to have a more spread out history.
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>>36795398
Well, he's correct in that Obama did horrible shit to America, but so does Trump, and going back, Bush and Clinton were pretty awful too, as well as Reagan, etc.
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The G3 is more accurate, more reliable and more modular than the FAL.
It was also made in much greater numbers.
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>>36794716
Are you implying the FAL isn't inherently mediocre in it's accuracy?

>tilting bolt
>front and rear sights on separate receivers
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>>36795257
How's it having autism?
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>>36795454
Redpill me on tilting bolts.
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>>36784385
>They're common in Africa because there was so many left behind after Portugal lost out in Angola and Mozambique
They were winning and stabilizing the place, it was the Carnation revolt that got them pulled out in the first place. Fucking dumbass administration left a massive powergap that fucked its agricultural ability
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>>36795436
The last good president got his brains sprayed all over Dallas. And he was a fag too, really, but a fag that had balls and hated any enemy of liberty. Thus, he got his brains knocked out for having the guts to say we were being manipulated
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>>36795436
>Obama did horrible shit to America
This level of histrionics is so absurd that I can't take anyone who spouts this shit remotely seriously.
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So which one of these should I assemble from a parts kit for SHTF/general building fun?

I haven't seen 80% FAL receivers and CETME kits are cheap
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>>36795712
inconsistent lockup on ammo that isnt match grade, fouling also effects lockup more than a rotating bolt
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Who the fuck calls it a "47"?
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>>36784160
>HURRRRR WHY ANYONE US OVER AK???????

Maybe because it's in 308 retard?
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>>36785327
Guy on the rights face is like "bruh why?"
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>>36784160
Love mine. Got it for Christmas
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>>36797897
not being a dick anon, but what kind of shot was that? Did you get lucky and spine it or was that a track job? Nice looking rifle though.
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>>36785327
Why does he look like he about to have a BBQ with family and friends?
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>>36797938
Yeah it was a bad shot. Through both hindquarters. I was using an unmagnified red dot and it took a big step right when I squeezed the shot trigger.

Dropped in its tracks though.
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>>36784160
A G3 makes anyone look cool
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>>36797984
Hunting is always exciting. good shit man
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>>36797984
Good 160yds. The red dot was covering up the entire front shoulder.
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>>36793961
AKs are just tough. they're built loose which tends to help with reliability as they're a bit more tolerant of shitty guts, ammo, etc., but overall the design is just a real motherfucker to break and is nice and simple. fuck sakes, a PK-series machine gun is just a big upside down AK.
FALs are also built like tanks, but a bit more finicky because of their gas system with a spring loaded pin rather than a direct one, and the tilting bolt is kinda odd. built tight.
G3s are just big metal boxes that go bang. roller delayed blowback will almost always work so long as the rollers get changed when they need to. built super tight, but that gives them a good sealing quality. by far the simplest of all options, and tough as hell, but doesn't like the ingress of moon sand as that will gum it up fierce.
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>>36795712
It's hard to make the lockup really consistent; when the gun closes, it'll close just slightly differently each time, which affects accuracy.
Second issue is that most were generally designed to lock into the receiver, meaning you had to make sure the receiver is strong, thus heavy. This can be worked around, but only to an extent.

For an infantry rifle, the lesser inherent accuracy isn't as much of an issue, because infantrymen aren't really marksmen, but the gun needing to be somewhat heavier matters.

For a machinegun, like the Zb.26 (one of the best LMGs of the World War and early Cold War eras), this is less of a concern, because the receiver must be strong anyway due to high volume of fire, and fine precision isn't all that important, it just needs to shoot reasonably straight. A tilting bolt action can also be pretty simple, which can be nice for reliability reasons, which matters for a gun that's gonna shoot a lot in short timespan.
You could of course make an LMG that's just as good and fills the same parameters as the Zb.26, while being rotating bolt or even delayed blowback, but my point is not so much "tilting bolt is shit", and more "tilting bolt has some drawbacks, BUT, some extremely excellent guns had tilting bolts".
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>>36796112
>disliking mass surveillance, drone strikes and ramping up the drug war is histrionic
Go fuck yourself, he was Chocolate Nixon.




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