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What's /k/'s opinion on using .22lr for CC or home defense? Yes, I know its a pathetic little round but that's the point- its cheap, low recoil, quiet, and won't punch through your wall and kill your doggo if you miss.
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>>36796850
Dont

With a 22lr you have the chance it doesnt even pierce the dudes skin. Get a 22mag or some shit.
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>>36796865
>Wont pierce the dudes skin
>Need .22mag
So I guess dindus are terminators now
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>>36796850
I would carry a 22lr revolver loaded with 60gr Aguila 22lr if no other options were available. Hell, I'd even take that over 25ACP.
That being said, I would not willingly select that outside of having some crazy absolute necessity dictating 22lr.
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>>36796850
>home defense
In a carbine? Actually quite reasonable. The only ammo that makes sense to me are the two 40gr hypervelocity loadings on the market: on the market: CCI Velocitor, and can't remember what Aguila calls theirs. Velocitor is hollow point, Aguila's is solid. Aguila's 60gr SSS is nice from a aural perspective, and hits harder than standard-velocity, but doesn't really make efficient use of a long barrel.

>CC
That means pistol, and .22LR gets very poor ballistics out of a pistol. Wouldn't recommend it at all. If you have to use this combination, you can go heavy with Aguila's 60gr SSS, or you can go fast, with the 40gr hypervelocity loads already mentioned; out of a short barrel, though, they won't actually be hypervelocity.

I wouldn't use Velocitor, or any other hollow point, in a .22LR handgun. Many hollow points won't expand when fired from a pistol due to low velocity, but if it doesn't expand, it gains nothing, and if it does expand, it will not penetrate enough.

In a handgun, .22 WMR for revolvers or .32 ACP for autopistols is a much better choice.
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>>36797147
Aguila's is the Interceptor.
For a short time, before my wife was ready to move up to a 9mm, her nightstand gun was a SIG Mosquito with non-hp Interceptors. They were one of the only rounds we could get it to reliably cycle with.
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>>36797147
Sounds good. Thanks anon
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>>36796850
People tend to do one of three things when shot with anything.
>Flee
>Drop
>Fight
The first two doesn't matter what round you use. If they run, you are no longer in danger. If they drop, you are no longer directly in danger, even if they are not dead.
The big problem is if they decide to fight. You will need to make as many shots as to stop them. At that point it is all about the amount of damage you are causing. Larger and more powerful rounds cause more damage.
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>>36796850
Many a spouse, typically a husband, has been shot to death by their SO using a .22 revolver. Seriously watch that dateline murder crime solving show. Every other murder weapon is a .22
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>>36796850
Here's what a professional has to say:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w4Z5azEPWk
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>>36796850
I'd probably have more success stabbing them
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Travis Bickle uses a .22 Smith and Wesson Escort to pretty decent effect

https://youtu.be/9jQ-pUx7MsM?t=2m42s
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>me
>miss

Pick one.
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>>36796850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w4Z5azEPWk

Literally my last choice as far as HD/cc goes. but it'll kill stuff usually.
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>>36796865
We just found out you've never killed anything.
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>>36796850
Any rim-fire cartridge is inherently unreliable because of the way they are designed. They are great for target shooting and small game, that's about it.
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>>36796850
It's alright if you live on a hot climate. Otherwise if the robber is wearing anything more than a jacket it won't do jack shit
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.22lr geometry is bad for magazines, so they're basically all single stacks, so instead of ~17 rounds of 9mm, you get only ~10 rounds of .22lr, in a full size, and with more jams.
And rimfire primers can be unreliable, since they're just a crust.

Choosing a 10rd double action revolver resolves some of the issues that make other .22lrs less dependable for defense. It can't fail to feed in the middle of shooting, because all the rounds are already fed into the chambers. To get past a dead primer and shoot more in an emergency, just keep pulling the trigger.
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>>36798287
22LR 300 yards ballistic gel test with 4 layers of denim
https://youtu.be/-DzLQGv-w5M
A lot of people sell the 22lr short. I wouldn't want to get hit with that
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A bullet is a bullet. Load it with ammo you trust.
If someone says otherwise let them stand in front of one to prove their point.
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>>36798287
Thats funny. Sure puts two holes in a deer scull.
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>>36798522
I shot a phone book years ago. Browning buckmark. 22lr. Went in about 2 3/4ins. Book was dry
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>>36796850
>won't punch through your wall and kill your doggo if you miss.
Depends on the wall. A flimsy interior wall, still could.
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>>36797186
CCI mini mags work well in mine, can always get the chamber reamed if you're tired of it though.
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>>36798993
It's the only gun I regret purchasing..... I shoulda got her an SR22. The Mosquito is a POS. Why would they sell a gun you have to team to make work?
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>>36799025
Mine is made in Germany as I suspect yours is too, the standard .22lr case diameter is around 4 thousandths smaller in Europe than in USA, the brass expands on firing and gets too tight with the ID of the chamber causing fte's or short cycling. Pistol itself isn't a POS just made to a different standard.
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>>36796850
if you are a manlet or woman I could understand carring 22lr but this is your home not yourself so the biggest fucking gun you can shoulder is the best HD. put your duggo outside where he/she belongs
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>>36796850
why not another slightly bigger non-rimmed round? might not be as cheap, but still cheap. hell, 9mm doesn't cost that much m8.
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>>36799767
Just looking at cheap, 9mm is second, skip the rest.
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>>36799806
hell lad, if you want cheap, how about one of those walmart single shot shotguns? its like 120 bucks out the door.
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>>36799232
Why would they sell something for a Euro spec in the US?
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>>36796850
Home defense is yes with a suppressed rifle but for cc get something like a .32 .380 or .38
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>>36796850
No, that's a terrible plan. .22 is a round you DO NOT want to trust with your life.

The stuff has a strong tendency to jam or decide to not work simply because gremlins having sex on the feed ramp. It's perfectly fine in range conditions and varminting, but why the hell would you trust it with your life if you've shot it even a single session?

Even with CCI you'll generally get some sort of issue like a dud or jam or something silly and less-than-optimal performance at least once per brick.

Try some sort of centerfire that has a jacketed round.
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>>36796850
Not CC but the police have put thought into it and an answer was simply unloading 30 round bursts into perps

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J50N5lQoAFw

Practical, no, but it's amusing.

Just to repeat consensus: why? It would work but you have better choices.
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>>36796850
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>>36796865
.... cmon man
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>>36799878
Cuz that's what's in demand, also I assume no one really checked the dimensional differences because .22lr is so wide spread it's standard everywhere
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I've been saying it for years...nobody needs anything more than a 22... it's just to make your d*ck feel big.
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>>36799982

This. Potential reliability issues aside, it also doesn't have a lot of stopping power. If you're going to use .22lr for self defense, you had best be magdumping while backpedaling and praying you don't get any malfunctions.

>>36801075
>nobody needs
>needs

Fudd, gtfo.




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